Eros cancelled?

[Nebontha]

I ditto that. But the intro to "in studio" clips was fucking awesome. As was Steph's playing in "In Studio Clip 3"

AGREED INDEED!
If they don't use that at all (not even in a B-Side), I'm going to 

[-cyppe]

I ditto that. But the intro to "in studio" clips was fucking awesome. As was Steph's playing in "In Studio Clip 3"

AGREED INDEED!
If they don't use that at all (not even in a B-Side), I'm going to 

In fucking deed. Like Siberian Divide..

[Deftones-argentina]

What's Siberian Divide? It sounds like a glassjaw and a head automatica song mashed together.

[rock_n_frost]

I ditto that. But the intro to "in studio" clips was fucking awesome. As was Steph's playing in "In Studio Clip 3"

its my new digital bath  (nice effect)

[Variable]

They haven't done that much for Chi, now they're shelving what he did record with them..so he won't get any royalties from that "new" album? Like Chi or his family don't need that type of cash...

I really hope that's total bullshit! 

Band's rarely ever get any money from album sales.

well, they get like 1$ for each album sold, split between 5 guys

yea its not like a dollar per album. everything has to be paid for and most of the time (unless ur a chart topper) the bands end up owing the record company money, which is paid for by touring. then the touring makes lots of money eventually

well i've heard it's usually $1 per album, so i'm sticking to that in my mind until proven wrong

Its about 10 cents an album give or take.  Of course this changes from contract to contract.  But its for sure no where near a whole dollar.  If you do the math, say an album sold 1,000,000 copies they get about $100,000.00 for that.  Split 5 ways ( and ill bet chino gets more ) That's around 20 grand a piece for white pony album sales.  And we all know that a new Deftones album most likely will not go platinum. 

"Hey Mr. and Mrs. Chi.  We know your son is still fucked up.  But we decided to go ahead and release his album when he is still too fucked up to enjoy his own success and the release to his fans.  But we really didnt want to screw you out of his money just in case he never wakes up.  So here's 20 grand ( minus taxes ) Go buy a used car with lots of air bags and have a nice day."

Do you see how ridiculous you sound now?  And if you REALLY just have to have proof they make less than a dollar instead of taking our words for it ( I wonder how you were proven that they get a whole dollar in the first place? ) then you can read up here on how the whole thing works http://www.musiclaw.me/ but I'm not going to waste the time trying to find that part of the contract when everyone generally knows its around 10-15 cents an album.

[Hidalgo]

everyone does not generally know that, the whole music business is a mystery. i have no clue why, but musicians/record labels hide the amount of money bands make, it's never talked about. makes no sense, we can know what every nfl, nba, & mlb player makes, but not signed bands

and here's what i found in that link you posted, which i'm pretty sure is where i got the idea that it's around 1$ an album in the first place

" In all, a band can expect an average of $1.00 in royalties for each full-priced CD sold through normal retail channels and less elsewhere. "

[Hidalgo]

here's another article saying it's around 1$, give or take

So, here is how it looks so far. Let's say a CD sells for $15. Right away we deduct 25% from that for packaging, which makes the royalty base $11.25. Now let's say our artist has a 10% royalty rate and that his CD sells one million copies. That sounds great! The artist would earn $1,125,000! Except 10% of those were actually freebies, so we really have to calculate that royalty based on 900,000, which makes the royalty $1,012,500, and of course, there are few costs we haven't talked about yet.

http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/music-royalties6.htm

[beLIEve]

im pretty sure michael jackson had the best royalties ever deal with 1.25 per album

[beLIEve]

the tones get nowhere neaaaaaar a dollar

[Hidalgo]

well if the "average" is 1.00 for signed bands, & they're a pretty damn successful band, i bet they make 1.00 each album, or real close. how can anyone here without facts sit there & say they make nowhere near 1.00 an album, when the "average" is $1.00? odds are they make real close to that or a bit over

i'm going with the detailed articles, not just random opinion. now, you get one of the deftones members here & they tell us they make nowhere near 1.00$ an album then it would be official, till then i'm closer to being right than anyone else based on info. you guys are acting like 1$ an album is a lot. it isnt, & it's the average

since i have a good idea about the record sales, i'd like to know what kinda royalties they get from concert ticket sales. but i'm not just gonna take any random word for it, i'll check into it sometime

[sharinglungs]

well if the "average" is 1.00 for signed bands, & they're a pretty damn successful band, i bet they make 1.00 each album, or real close. how can anyone here without facts sit there & say they make nowhere near 1.00 an album, when the "average" is $1.00? odds are they make real close to that or a bit over

i'm going with the detailed articles, not just random opinion. now, you get one of the deftones members here & they tell us they make nowhere near 1.00$ an album then it would be official, till then i'm closer to being right than anyone else based on info. you guys are acting like 1$ an album is a lot. it isnt, & it's the average

since i have a good idea about the record sales, i'd like to know what kinda royalties they get from concert ticket sales. but i'm not just gonna take any random word for it, i'll check into it sometime

If Deftones got 1$ per album + more than that per ticket sales.. none of them would have gone broke some years back.

[Hidalgo]

they werent touring then(in well over a year), & didnt have a new album out, so the royalties they got split 5 ways wasnt very much. plus they got familes & kids to feed, etc. makes sense to me still. 1$ an album on slow album sales isnt gonna get it done with no touring

[rock_n_frost]

yeah, touring is everything...

but people like me doesnt wanna hear the same songs every year  (thats a lie to make them release that fuckin album)

[There Will Be Blood]

yeah, touring is everything...

but people like me doesnt wanna hear the same songs every year  (thats a lie to make them release that fuckin album)

a little reverse psychology should make the album come out faster lol

[pissedandpierced]

im pretty sure michael jackson had the best royalties ever deal with 1.25 per album

U2 get the best royaly rate with 32%

[Hidalgo]

im pretty sure michael jackson had the best royalties ever deal with 1.25 per album

U2 get the best royaly rate with 32%

yea, that's a lot more than $1.25, that's over 3$

[Variable]

Thats because there is more to royalties than just album sales.  Also Bands like U2 have a lot more negotiating power than Deftones.  MJ Went like dam triple diamond or some shit.  He can go get a record deal anywhere.  So of course the record company is going to try to give him a really good deal to keep him on their label.  But the best the tones have done was WP going platinum.  They are pretty successful and all, but in comparison with say...The Eagles, not so much.  So they don't have that much pull with record labels to get better deals.  If MJ was getting $1.25 an album, I seriously doubt deftones were getting a whole dollar.  I'm sticking with 10 cents.  Especially since if you understand how averages work.  You would know that just a couple bands like U2 making a shit ton off album sales can totally fuck up an average even if there are tons making only 10 cents.

[Hidalgo]

white pony, and adrenaline are platinum. ATF will go platinum too (it's on the verge, no stopping it now it's so close)

(i've already said i'm stickin with $1, so that doesnt need to be discussed again)

sure they dont sell like Michael Jackson, but damn near no one has, or ever will since. he's sold like over 750,000,000 worldwide(3rd most ever i think, behind the bealtes & Elvis) and thriller has sold 109,000,000 albums worldwide. #1 by far). that's mind blowing to say the least. deftones are around 6 million worldwide

[whatshouldgohere]

ATF will go platinum too (it's on the verge, no stopping it now it's so close)

ah come oooon, i keep reading that since i started coming here in 2004

[Hidalgo]

i think it's at like 990,000. it's too close not to get there. that last 10k might take a year or so(especially with record sales at an insane all time low), but it's gonna happen. it never quits selling. it's awesome albums that old from them still havent died