Melanie Studio Verson

[defTHE1s]

perhaps im in the minority but i think melanie isnt much of a good song...

yeah it's like a b-side of rats x3, but I guess it's not a final version so probably the studio version will sound cooler.

right on

+1

but i liked it...

[wither-I]

i don't like rats, at all.

but i do have hopes for melanie

[wither-I]

yea ok. you win

[theis]

i don't like rats, at all.

+1

One of their worst songs to date.

[wither-I]

i don't like rats, at all.

+1

One of their worst songs to date.

tru that. the drums should never slow down in the chorus!

overproduced.

[Nebontha]

Quote from: penguin in the desert on Today at 08:15 AM
Quote from: wither-I on Today at 07:06 AM
i don't like rats, at all.

+1

One of their worst songs to date.
tru that. the drums should never slow down in the chorus!

overproduced.

Indeed. Agreed. Fuck, just from reading the lyrics you can really tell it's definitely one of their worst songs, if not THE worst...and I just listened to the song 20 minutes ago, and almost wish I hadn't...lol
Melanie should be on the new album, if they make it a double disc, first disc pre-Chi's accident material, second disc post-accident material, or something like that.

[jesusinabowlofdirt]

i don't like rats, at all.

One of their worst songs to date.

the "i wont say nothing,nothing, not a fucking thing" part is fucking sick.. best part of the whole album!

[rainnyx4]

Rats is a great song, one of the best on SNW.  I'm not a big fan of Melanie since it sounds like a less ambitious Rats.  I do think the chorus in Melanie is better than Rats however and the bridge is pretty sick too.  But if the rest of the album is similar in effort, I'm hoping the delay of the album allows them to be a lot more productive.

[mxdam]

can I have it somehow? 
(the studio version)

[deftonekid]

...

haha I can see that

[downtownpony]

a very clever joke, u had me goin for a while u piece of shit.

[defTHE1s]

Ratsx3! is one of the best of SNW
That's it.

And "Melanie" seems a lot to it, which I don't like/want.
Maybe that will be quite different in the album.

[Bergerac]

Rats is cool, mostly. I like the deep notes, the fact that it was something heavy (finally) and the effects that Frank is laying down during the chorus. It was a nice reprieve from the overall feeling of 'crap' throughout SNW.

I don't like the metal breakdown because its fucking stupid for a band like Deftones to do anything so cliched. Its the equivalent of 'flicking the horns' and I'd like to think that this band was above that garbage. They've never written anything like that, so why are they referencing it? Other than a piss poor attempt to define themselves as 'metal' to the dolts that listen to a large collective of less impressive music? The reason why Deftones are one of the few good metal bands is because they don't stagnate in the genre, standing around postulating about being 'ever more metal' with each new album, simultaneously doing absolutely fuck all to push said genre. They're comfortable going outside any genre they may be playing with.

I also didn't understand the necessity to write a song about Frances Farmer. Regardless of whether or not Moreno knew Nirvana had already covered the subject, it just illustrates the great problem with SNW. They were too busy escaping, and writing any old shit rather than release a better album where they were brave enough to confront their problems, as they'd previously done with 'Deftones'.

As for 'Melanie', it sounds like what 'Rapture' might've sounded like if it was bordering on 'any good'. The ascending note bridge after 2 minutes (2:30 in the video) however, is fucking abysmal, and its the type of cliched writing I would hope they'd avoid. As has already been said, 'Rats' was 'ambitious'. Melanie to me sounds like a less ambitious version of Rats, but more ambitious than Rapture. Its in the middle.

I'm going to be ever more critical with this new album, I know it. SNW was a vile tasting, warning sign. The first four albums were like drinking a nice milkshake, and all of a sudden, SNW was a clotted lump of snot when you were used to, and expecting, more milkshake.

[Timmy666]

SNW is a rad album, man.

[wither-I]

Rats is cool, mostly. I like the deep notes, the fact that it was something heavy (finally) and the effects that Frank is laying down during the chorus. It was a nice reprieve from the overall feeling of 'crap' throughout SNW.

I don't like the metal breakdown because its fucking stupid for a band like Deftones to do anything so cliched. Its the equivalent of 'flicking the horns' and I'd like to think that this band was above that garbage. They've never written anything like that, so why are they referencing it? Other than a piss poor attempt to define themselves as 'metal' to the dolts that listen to a large collective of less impressive music? The reason why Deftones are one of the few good metal bands is because they don't stagnate in the genre, standing around postulating about being 'ever more metal' with each new album, simultaneously doing absolutely fuck all to push said genre. They're comfortable going outside any genre they may be playing with.

I also didn't understand the necessity to write a song about Frances Farmer. Regardless of whether or not Moreno knew Nirvana had already covered the subject, it just illustrates the great problem with SNW. They were too busy escaping, and writing any old shit rather than release a better album where they were brave enough to confront their problems, as they'd previously done with 'Deftones'.

As for 'Melanie', it sounds like what 'Rapture' might've sounded like if it was bordering on 'any good'. The ascending note bridge after 2 minutes (2:30 in the video) however, is fucking abysmal, and its the type of cliched writing I would hope they'd avoid. As has already been said, 'Rats' was 'ambitious'. Melanie to me sounds like a less ambitious version of Rats, but more ambitious than Rapture. Its in the middle.

I'm going to be ever more critical with this new album, I know it. SNW was a vile tasting, warning sign. The first four albums were like drinking a nice milkshake, and all of a sudden, SNW was a clotted lump of snot when you were used to, and expecting, more milkshake.

haha good points man, and well written.

from what i recall in an old interview, chino was reading about frances the farmer when dreaming up track titles, and he mentions nirvana already covering those grounds, but he decided to just slap that titile on the sonng because it fit the sound. from what i remember...

i will def be very critical of this album as well. i have faith in it though. i think they'll be working with some strong emotions and i hope they dont "try too hard" cause then it will be overproduced garbo like rapture, and rats

[jesusinabowlofdirt]

yeah i demand a good record .first of all - it has taken a long time and then they gotta compensate for doing a pretty bad record the last time(by deftones standards) i dont mind if deftones sound metal cliche a minute or 2 on one song on their 5th record,but the problem is they're not doing it any well... nothing really happens in the rats part thats mentioned. melanie on the other hand sound great from start to finish.lets se how the final studio version will turn out

[buddyboy101]

my fav part of rats is the breathing/gasping/shivering/shuttering sound at the very end

[Inkblades]

I think Eros will be better than SNW because:

1. They're working together as a band. SNW was pieced together oddly.
2. Terry Date.

[jesusinabowlofdirt]

3. They know in their heart that snw wasnt very good, so they got to perform this time

[pixElsblUr]

all good ponts, hope to hear some new shit this weekend at bamboozle