The Ron Paul topic ( aka your candidate sucks topic )

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To talk about both sides.  I said a million times that I wasn't voting for him or didn't support him.  But every single time I talked shit about Obama you came back at me talking shit about republicans as if I supported them.  I just didn't see the point in kicking a dog while he was down.  Not to mention I don't know of any McCain supporters on this board.  So talking shit about him would be pointless.  I would get 10 post in a row of " ^ 5" or " + 1 " . 

I'm not worked up though.  I'm just trying to make it very clear that I'm not a Republican or a Democrat at the moment. 

[devilinside]

If I felt like it I could find a few post's you've made claiming to be a republican,but I'm not. I do believe Ron Paul is a republican too,isn't he? And you pretty much always talked trash about Obama,and that's ok. I didn't talk trash about Mccain,I just posted a pic.

[bright lights, big city]

i talk trash about McCain....

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If I felt like it I could find a few post's you've made claiming to be a republican,but I'm not. I do believe Ron Paul is a republican too,isn't he? And you pretty much always talked trash about Obama,and that's ok. I didn't talk trash about Mccain,I just posted a pic.

I said " by definition I am a Republican" as in I am a federalist.  I believe in small government.  I believe in liberty and freedom.  I don't think the government can solve all of my problems.  If you listened to my criticism of the Republicans as much as you did to my criticism of Obama you would know that I have been saying that George Bush ( both of them ) and Ronald Reagan and so on are not true republicans.  In fact the George W. Bush administration acted by definition as democrats.  Increasing the size of government and government spending.

and why would I sit here trying to convince people that McCain was not their savior if there are no McCain supporters on this board?  I talked plenty trash About McCain and the GOP as a whole to my fellow " conservative " service brethren.  But its pointless to do here where everyone has a boner for Obama.

[Jedidiah Solomon]

You have no clue about liberty and freedom, stop talking, just stop!

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The amount of education it must have taken to get that thought about blows my mind Ross.  You truly are a board treasure. 

But its ok Ross.  We will just Blame the War on Illiteracy, the Department of Education, and Pollution on your lack of brain activity.  We are all still rooting that you pull through.   

[alvarezbassist17]

with jah and a big bong on his side, there's nothing he can't do.

[alvarezbassist17]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/10/sanford.conservatives/index.html

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http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/10/sanford.conservatives/index.html

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Wow, what a breath of Fresh air.  I'm starting to think that I may not single handedly have to save conservatism in America

For all of you on here who seem to think that "Republican" and "conservative" are dirty words that represent George Bush, War, and Greed.  You should read that.  It's pretty short, pretty basic.  But a great illustration of how conservatives are supposed to act.

[Jedidiah Solomon]

Nobody acts how they are suppose to, republicans are always for greed and disgust and filth. They prove it everytime. No one has ever gone by the constitution or given true credit to who they stole their Ideals from, even less this land, oh yes it's goin' down, and if people think they are happy and don't care about those who don't have enough money to care then you will never find your redemption, we are all apart of this lifely situation, we are all equal, how you act, may save you, DON'T PUT YOUR TRUST IN THE MONEY PLAN>

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I know I have talked to you about talking in absolutions before Ross.  You are setting yourself up when you do that.  Maybe not in your lifetime, But there have been some great Republican politicians. 

That's not really the point though.  The point is that some of us are trying to break free from all of these bull shit and totally irrelevant stereotypes that come along with the word " Republican " and " Conservative " .  Some of us want those words to represent ways that a country is governed, not moral values ( or lack there of ) Please don't perpetuate this horrible cycle.  It's ruining our government

And a side note, there have been more than plenty greedy and corrupt " Democrats " and " Liberals "

[Jedidiah Solomon]

I know I have talked to you about talking in absolutions before Ross.  You are setting yourself up when you do that.  Maybe not in your lifetime, But there have been some great Republican politicians. 

That's not really the point though.  The point is that some of us are trying to break free from all of these bull shit and totally irrelevant stereotypes that come along with the word " Republican " and " Conservative " .  Some of us want those words to represent ways that a country is governed, not moral values ( or lack there of ) Please don't perpetuate this horrible cycle.  It's ruining our government

And a side note, there have been more than plenty greedy and corrupt " Democrats " and " Liberals "

Both side is no good side, one is a little less dangerous than the other, yes.

So when we spot the divine light we just chill, cause we know that our vote in Heaven counts all day every day, that's all were hear about, freedom, true freedom, no illusion, lending a helpful hand to remind all the rest and give another chance. some say you'll never get a second chance, with the god of love, unlimited chances...

oh yes.

[Jerry_Curls]

Divide and conquer. They want one group to hate the other group instead of focusing on the real issues. Ross has clearly shown it has worked.

[Jedidiah Solomon]

Divide and conquer. They want one group to hate the other group instead of focusing on the real issues. Ross has clearly shown it has worked.

Yeah because I hate so much.

You're the one Top Rankin' buddy.

you ever seen the last supper with cameron diaz and those other people?

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Divide and conquer. They want one group to hate the other group instead of focusing on the real issues. Ross has clearly shown it has worked.

It is extremely obvious that "they" the republicrats are trying to divert public attention from the real issues.

[defkitty]

There is relatively NO difference between Republicans and Democrats anymore (excepting Ron Paul who gets treated like a joke by his political peers for what?- being a real Republican).  We pick sides based on false truths of a platform hoping that one day there will be an honest candidate that actually follows through.  The honest truth is: a) All politicians, Democrat, Republican, Independent, Communist, fat, ugly, ect. are all out for one thing- to get re-elected and fullfill their own personal agendas while maintaining some sort of subjective record to make a worthless place in history.  b) Corporations run this country through lovely people called lobbyists.  They too have agendas but don't give a fuck about the history part, just the cash.  c) The Constitution is now a rough draft for every lawmaker to revise and restate however he/she wishes.  It's really just paper now.  d)There is NO privacy.
If this seems a bit cynical or negative, that is what our country has become.
Companies take their private jets to ask for bailout money from Congress.
A politician in an Armani suit sympathizes with the poor average worker who just got laid off.
All of these acts make for great photo-opts, but don't hide the truth in the end, because a rousing speech, a one time stimulus charity check of 600 bucks, and a "green" car for every poltician in Washington, D.C. don't give the people who lost their jobs, the people who lost their homes, or anyone else any real shit help or hope in their country or their right to be treated equally.

There is a class system even though it goes unnamed.  The people have to make the difference in this country-revolutionary or not, and reject this idea of having to belong to some "party" that has divided us all along.  It would appear we're the only honest ones left.

[defkitty]

My articulate grandfather put it best on the day of the inauguration of Bill Clinton:

"Same asshole. Different suit."

[Jerry_Curls]

^^+1...or 5


Ron Paul Invites Rush Limbaugh To Debate On The Issues



Matt Jarfi
EyesOnTheLies. com

Former GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul made a Tuesday evening appearance on MSNBC to discuss the recent ruckus caused by neoconservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh.

Over the weekend, Limbaugh stated at the Conservative Political Action Conference that he wanted Barack Obama's presidency to fail. Since then, the mainstream media has hailed Limbaugh as the "leader of the Republican Party" and has played numerous clips of neoconservative members within the Republican party agreeing that Limbaugh is indeed the leader of the party.

When pressed with question, "Do you want President Obama to fail?", Paul responded by saying "no" and affirmed that he wanted the president to be successful in accomplishing his goals but gave the explanation that he does not wish to see Obama's philosophies of big government, socialism, welfare, and foreign intervention to succeed.

The Texas Congressman followed by saying that we dwell too much on the opinions of a talk radio host instead of dealing with the real issues. Paul even went as far as boldly challenging Rush Limbaugh on issues like the civil liberties, the Federal Reserve, and foreign policy.

"I would ask him why doesn't he stand up more for civil liberties and why doesn't he explain why he supports the Patriot Act," Paul said. "I would much rather talk about why Rush Limbaugh doesn't support my position in looking into the Federal Reserve and being able to audit the Federal Reserve, now that is an important issue."

"He never said hardly boo against George Bush. He supported all that big spending. Did he complain about George Bush? Did he complain about all those wars that were going on that cause us so much trouble? So that's the kind of issues that I want to talk about and I will be quite willing to challenge Rush Limbaugh on those issues."

Is Ron Paul challenging the entire Republican Party by calling out Limbaugh's neocon views? Maybe, but this could be a very good thing for the Republican Party. The fact that the Republican's have lost massively in the past two elections is the end result of the neocon's stranglehold on the party.

If the Republicans are to return to their conservative roots, now is the time for the leaders in the party who are in line with Limbaugh's views of foreign policy and civil liberties to be challenged on these same policies that have the party in search of their identity.

If the Republicans want to return to the era of Ronald Reagan, Barry Goldwater, and true conservatism, than their views must be challenged.

Rush Limbaugh . . . Ron Paul has offered you a challenge.Will you step up to the plate?

If you think Rush Limbaugh should step up to the plate and challenge Ron Paul on the real issues than contact Rush Limbaugh.

Limbaugh's email addresses provided at RushLimbaugh.com:

ElRushbo@eibnet.com
webmaster@rushlimbaugh.com

Call Limbaugh during his radio show and challeng him on the air. His show is from 12 - 3PM EST. The call in number is 1-800-282-2882.

here it is on youtube

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[alvarezbassist17]

god, david schuster is a douche.

[Jerry_Curls]

In Missour  "..supporters of presidential candidates Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, and Bob Barr as "militia" influenced terroristsi..."

http://www.prisonplanet.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-chuck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists.html