New song Melanie!

[rainnyx4]

talking about snw should be happing on a proper thread, come on guys.

dont get me wrong though, i love snw but this bitch is about MELANIEEE

yeah but melanie = rats/rapture


duh

i kind of desagree, it may sound similiar cause of the guitar figures, pattern signatures and song structure, but if you try to embrace it well youll notice its uniqueness. im so obsessed with the new song, that ive been taking notice of the drumm pattern and guitar signatures and its quite freaking awesome, making this arguably the most challenging technical execution of any deftones songs to date.

and that is badass.

Actually, the song structure is the one thing Melanie doesn't have in common with Rats and Rapture.  Melanie is much simpler.  They really moved forward with unorthodox song structures on SNW but it appears they're going backwards if the rest of the songs are as straight forward as Melanie.

[Variable]

you think you are smarter than everyone

Melanie is a good song and that makes you an idiot, sorry..

Do all of you have a version that is not that distorted ass live version they played?  It's the only thing I have heard.  If you guys are really ready to sit here and try to have a conversation about the song structure and wether it is a good song or not, and if I'm and idiot for not liking it ( god you're a tool ) then you are all pretty fucked up.  There is no way you are getting all this from that distorted piece of shit.  I wan't the clean studio version, or stfu

I mean, I thought it sounded like shit on the shitty recording.  But in the back of my mind I keep telling myself that maybe it will be a good song when I hear it properly.  A lot of you seem to be convinced that this song is already the shit.

Oh, and rock n frost.  Go back through this thread from page 1.  I'm pretty sure you are in the minority for liking this song.

[White Pwny]

I really like it.   Even tho I've not heard studio quality yet...   I have it on my IPod and I love walkin to this song.    Makes me very excited to hear the album in it's entirety.

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[rainnyx4]

You don't need a good version of a song to figure out its structure.  Melanie has a very typical structure (verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, verse, chorus).  Whereas Rats and Rapture are all over the place.  Unorthodox song structures are a signature of "progressive" music.  The Deftones have been claiming for years that they were going to get more complex.  On SNW they made their biggest leap in technical song writing.  But, if all of the songs on Eros are as simple as Melanie, then they've taken a step back.

[There Will Be Blood]

I like it.... i bet if its going to be on th album it will sound 10001% better.

[Slacker]

You don't need a good version of a song to figure out its structure.  Melanie has a very typical structure (verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, verse, chorus).  Whereas Rats and Rapture are all over the place.  Unorthodox song structures are a signature of "progressive" music.  The Deftones have been claiming for years that they were going to get more complex.  On SNW they made their biggest leap in technical song writing.  But, if all of the songs on Eros are as simple as Melanie, then they've taken a step back.

we could clear that up right now, i agree with the song structure argument, but this song, as for instrumental technical execution (as for the drumms and guitar departments acounts) steps up big time. that shit steph is doing, flirts with polyrithmic figures.

[Penicks]

You don't need a good version of a song to figure out its structure.  Melanie has a very typical structure (verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, verse, chorus).  Whereas Rats and Rapture are all over the place.  Unorthodox song structures are a signature of "progressive" music.  The Deftones have been claiming for years that they were going to get more complex.  On SNW they made their biggest leap in technical song writing.  But, if all of the songs on Eros are as simple as Melanie, then they've taken a step back.

So? Who gives a rats!rats!rats' ass? A song doesn't need to be complex to be good.

[Variable]

a lot of times simplicity is key

[downtownpony]

a good song is a good song, no matter how simple or complex it is.

[Crazylegs]

a lot of times simplicity is key

Absolutely, and for deftones that sure is the case. Leave the complex writing to those who are capable.

[Slacker]

a lot of times simplicity is key

Absolutely, and for deftones that sure is the case. Leave the complex writing to those who are capable.

hell deftones have prove that with melanie, damn its good.

[rainnyx4]

a lot of times simplicity is key

Absolutely, and for deftones that sure is the case. Leave the complex writing to those who are capable.

The Deftones have shown that they're more than capable of writing complex songs.  And, they keep saying they're going to get more complex with their craft.  SNW had glimpses of that, but if all of the songs are as simple as Melanie then they will be moving backwards.

I have nothing against simple songs, I think the Deftones are great at what they do, I would just like to see more out of them.  Really, I'm just hoping they don't get as lazy with this record as they did with S/T.

[rock_n_frost]

a lot of times simplicity is key

so the simple keys makes the songs bad ?

as he says ;

a good song is a good song, no matter how simple or complex it is.

You say SNW is not good also, but the songs ''combat,beware,hite'' are not simple complexes...Even the Deftones cant play them right...


You are talking about ''melanie is not a good song'' but hell yeah you only heard it on live. So why cant i think ''its a good song''
tho you know studio version always being better..

[Variable]

a lot of times simplicity is key

Absolutely, and for deftones that sure is the case. Leave the complex writing to those who are capable.

Really, I'm just hoping they don't get as lazy with this record as they did with S/T.

Fucking thank you!!!!!!!!

a lot of times simplicity is key

so the simple keys makes the songs bad ?

No.  That is just an expression.  Saying something is key is like saying it is exactly what is needed.  So sometimes simplicity is perfect.

[Northcal]

I cant believe its 2012 already ,melanie jus a memory kinda sad huh!

[deftoolsys07]

It was a memory until you dug up this 3 year old thread to mention that. haha

[mothraw]

but still a breaker of a song

[deftoolsys07]

yuhh it's tight still

[illthrowROCKS@U]

Maybe, but any song off SNW still sucks compared to any other song on any album prior to SNW...and you fucking KNOW it...no matter what anyone says. They just lost it after WP....no room for argument. SNW just doesn't have one ounce of the soul or feeling or vibe of the first 3 albums (also S/T for the most part), and you can't say anything to

Wow this guy's a dick. I like SNW more than WP, in fact I'd put WP second to LAST of all their albums (just barely beating out DE).  more than Adrenaline, and some days more than ATF. Don't be a fucking asshole and act like your opinion is any more valid than anyone else. S/T was classic too, some of their best stuff on there and SNW.

I know this was said like 3 years ago but I couldn't help but call this guy out on his douchbaggery..

[snw9]

Maybe, but any song off SNW still sucks compared to any other song on any album prior to SNW...and you fucking KNOW it...no matter what anyone says. They just lost it after WP....no room for argument. SNW just doesn't have one ounce of the soul or feeling or vibe of the first 3 albums (also S/T for the most part), and you can't say anything to

Wow this guy's a dick. I like SNW more than WP, in fact I'd put WP second to LAST of all their albums (just barely beating out DE).  more than Adrenaline, and some days more than ATF. Don't be a fucking asshole and act like your opinion is any more valid than anyone else. S/T was classic too, some of their best stuff on there and SNW.

I know this was said like 3 years ago but I couldn't help but call this guy out on his douchbaggery..

And to add to your post:
SNW is wayy better than Selftitled. Let's face it Stephen is a good writer but without chino's input, the songs dont sound complete, dont have many melodies. In terms of technical writing and song structures SNW is one of their best. For your info, WP is when Chino started taking more control of the writing process which is basically a repeat on SNW.
In reference of soul and feelings, haha what can I say, the lyrics don't need interpretation, the songs themselves are screaming emotions. Please go back and listen to the record again.