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Whats the best song from S/T Era?

Started by Corleone, Aug 21, 2008, 06:27 PM

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stuka

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Needles And Pins

Cant decide. About gurls S/T is the motha fucking album.
face teh load.

wither-I

Quote from: Hidalgo on Aug 22, 2008, 05:12 PM
i havent listened to it in 4 years, wp either(adrenaline & atf 2 years ago once, after ra 2 year break). it's tough to stay away from them, but i'm just giving them a huge break. i listen to the like linus demos, b-sides & snw for my deftones fix these days. cant wait for the new album
dude serious props on that.
i personally dont like to deprive myself but i had a big gap with deftones once, -a about  ayear and a half after wp i put them down until s/t because i was into minerva, but then i didnt really like s/t so i didnt start listening to them at all until may 2005, and i rediscovered their music literally! it was like re-uniting with an old friend er something that i had known since i was 10 years old. kinda cheesy i know.

but yeah thats kewl you'll have a great time when you listen again :)

but yeah again, that new album!!

"coming into the nearness of distance"

Variable

Quote from: White Pwny on Aug 22, 2008, 04:08 AM
Quote from: Variable on Aug 22, 2008, 03:03 AM
ST is pretty much a completely worthless album.  The only exception being Battle Axe.  That is really the one and only good thing that came from that album.

:o  Dude, how can you say that?!   OMG!  So many good songs on this album!!  

Hexagram
Needles and Pins
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Anniversary of an uninteresting Event

All great songs....    I <3 Hexagram

Dude all those songs suck ass.  I was so disappointed when I heard this album.  It's a piece of shit.  Even the Deftones themselves came out and said it.  Like right before SNW was going to be released they admitted that they got real lazy on ST and wrote a pretty shitty album that could have been so much better if they would have just taken the time and effort to make it so. 

So fuck all of you for saying in the douche.  Even the musicians who wrote it think its crap.

cyppe101

Quote from: Variable on Aug 23, 2008, 12:41 AM
Quote from: White Pwny on Aug 22, 2008, 04:08 AM
Quote from: Variable on Aug 22, 2008, 03:03 AM
ST is pretty much a completely worthless album.  The only exception being Battle Axe.  That is really the one and only good thing that came from that album.

:o  Dude, how can you say that?!   OMG!  So many good songs on this album!!  

Hexagram
Needles and Pins
WGTB
Anniversary of an uninteresting Event

All great songs....    I <3 Hexagram

Dude all those songs suck ass.  I was so disappointed when I heard this album.  It’s a piece of shit.  Even the Deftones themselves came out and said it.  Like right before SNW was going to be released they admitted that they got real lazy on ST and wrote a pretty shitty album that could have been so much better if they would have just taken the time and effort to make it so. 

So fuck all of you for saying in the douche.  Even the musicians who wrote it think its crap.
heh

kicks the fuck out off snw 10-0 any day.

best deftones album, only one I feel like listening to between all this better music I listen to every day.

Inkblades

No, SNW is the album they got lazy on. They have it backwards, just like you do.

mr.sinister

Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 23, 2008, 01:04 AM
No, SNW is the album they got lazy on. They have it backwards, just like you do.

White Pwny

hang a noose for my new sinner.... somewhere everyone can see it...

rainnyx4

Actually, I agree with Variable.  I've always felt that S/T was their laziest album.  Many of the songs only have like two real parts to them and several songs sound like rehashes of older songs.  It's definitely not worthless though.  Anniversary is one of my favorite Deftones songs and is really what makes that album for me.  Still, I'd have to say it's their weakest effort.

White Pwny

I don't dislike any Deftones album.  In fact, I love them all.. White Pony being obviously my favorite...  but my least favorite of all is SNW.   
hang a noose for my new sinner.... somewhere everyone can see it...

Variable

Man some of you are just crazy.  Look, here is the way I see it.  Your opinion is your own, and that's cool with me.  But Adrenaline was an amazing record.  Looking back at it, its only  mediocre but for being a bands first album, in the time period it was released.  It was amazing.  Around the fur was a great progression.  A really great record.  Plus they started to push into a whole new territory with BQAD.  Then White Pony.  A master piece.  A truly timeless great album. I really cant say enough good things about White Pony, so I wont even try. 
But to go from the progression of those 3 albums.  To what ST was.  Its just fucking embarrassing.  They progressed.  They went from being average, but just ahead of their time(adrenaline).  To really putting out an amazing piece of art (WP).  To, crap ( ST ). Every deftones album has some flop songs on it.  But to me ST is the other way around, all flops with a couple exceptions.  Minerva and Bloody cape are pretty good songs.  Battle Axe is one of their best ever.  And everything else is just garbage ( although I might have to listen to anniversary again because so many of you are vouching for it and I cant even remember how it goes)

AND THEN.  SNW.  SNW is a truly great album.  Yeah hole in the earth sucked.  But pretty much the rest of the album is some of their strongest work.  It blows my mind that you guys cant see that.  They just finally got it right.  Kept it simple, and made an album front their heart.  ST was all about being that nu metal band that maverick wanted them to be. SNW was about deftones.

Look, no one shits gold every time.  Eventually someone has to shit , shit.  WP was Platinum, ST was shit, and SNW was some solid ass gold.

White Pwny

haha... I wouldn't call it shit.   Relisten to that CD in whole.  If you can't even recall how Anniversary goes, you don't know the songs!   When I first heard ST I was like.. wtf?!   And, now.. I love the CD.    It will never be a White Pony, but it's pretty fucking good. 
hang a noose for my new sinner.... somewhere everyone can see it...

Variable

Yeah I was like WTF too.  I was embarrased to call myself a deftones fan.  I thought the band was done.  Then they totally rocked my world with SNW.  It really is a much better album. But fuck it, im on duty.  Ill go listen to the whole dam thing again.  Got nothing better to do, the terrorist arent biting today :(

White Pwny

WooOOoooT!  Do it!!    and give detailed info about how you feel about each song!  YETH!
hang a noose for my new sinner.... somewhere everyone can see it...

Inkblades

Quote from: Variable on Aug 23, 2008, 03:45 AM
Man some of you are just crazy.  Look, here is the way I see it.  Your opinion is your own, and that’s cool with me.  But Adrenaline was an amazing record.  Looking back at it, its only  mediocre but for being a bands first album, in the time period it was released.  It was amazing.  Around the fur was a great progression.  A really great record.  Plus they started to push into a whole new territory with BQAD.  Then White Pony.  A master piece.  A truly timeless great album. I really cant say enough good things about White Pony, so I wont even try. 
But to go from the progression of those 3 albums.  To what ST was.  Its just fucking embarrassing.  They progressed.  They went from being average, but just ahead of their time(adrenaline).  To really putting out an amazing piece of art (WP).  To, crap ( ST ). Every deftones album has some flop songs on it.  But to me ST is the other way around, all flops with a couple exceptions.  Minerva and Bloody cape are pretty good songs.  Battle Axe is one of their best ever.  And everything else is just garbage ( although I might have to listen to anniversary again because so many of you are vouching for it and I cant even remember how it goes)

AND THEN.  SNW.  SNW is a truly great album.  Yeah hole in the earth sucked.  But pretty much the rest of the album is some of their strongest work.  It blows my mind that you guys cant see that.  They just finally got it right.  Kept it simple, and made an album front their heart.  ST was all about being that nu metal band that maverick wanted them to be. SNW was about deftones.

Look, no one shits gold every time.  Eventually someone has to shit , shit.  WP was Platinum, ST was shit, and SNW was some solid ass gold.


Hahaha and you think HITE sucks...one of my favorites on SNW. That song is ethereal and gorgeous. It's songs like Pink Cellphone that sucked. Oh well. To each their own, I guess.

mr.sinister

Quote from: White Pwny on Aug 23, 2008, 02:12 AM
I don't dislike any Deftones album.  In fact, I love them all.. White Pony being obviously my favorite...  but my least favorite of all is SNW.  
Same here :) SNW has Cherry Waves and Rivière which are beautiful works and no words can sum them up.

@Variable

Variable, dude, you gotta give s/t another spin. That record is so dark and just fucking hauntingly beautiful. Sure, some songs might not be up to par with others  they wrote in the past, but try and appreciate it for what it is, rather than what its not. The thing about masterpieces, and White Pony is a masterpiece despite what anyone may say, is that the album that follows is extremely hard to once again achieve the same praise or even better that the previous album did. Few bands have ever done this and in my opinion, Deftones did a fine job doing a follow up to White Pony. In no ways is it a fuck up or a piece of shit. But, everyone is allowed to have an opinion, let alone express it. I was just trying to see what it was that you loathed about it so much.

Variable

Quote from: White Pwny on Aug 23, 2008, 04:29 AM
WooOOoooT!  Do it!!    and give detailed info about how you feel about each song!  YETH!
lol, so I fell asleep instead.  But I swear I will here in a bit.
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 23, 2008, 04:36 AM
Hahaha and you think HITE sucks...one of my favorites on SNW. That song is ethereal and gorgeous. It's songs like Pink Cellphone that sucked. Oh well. To each their own, I guess.
Yeah, HITE is horrible.  Just plain horrible.  Pink cell phone was just a song for fun.  Its not like a great song.  But I took it for what it was.  Fun.  Rats Rats Rats, just a song to appeal to all those crying about how deftones are not hard anymore.  but like Cherry Waves and Kimdracula ect, those are amazing songs.
Quote from: mr.sinister on Aug 23, 2008, 05:42 AM
Quote from: White Pwny on Aug 23, 2008, 02:12 AM
I don't dislike any Deftones album.  In fact, I love them all.. White Pony being obviously my favorite...  but my least favorite of all is SNW.  
Same here :) SNW has Cherry Waves and Rivière which are beautiful works and no words can sum them up.

@Variable

Variable, dude, you gotta give s/t another spin. That record is so dark and just fucking hauntingly beautiful. Sure, some songs might not be up to par with others  they wrote in the past, but try and appreciate it for what it is, rather than what its not. The thing about masterpieces, and White Pony is a masterpiece despite what anyone may say, is that the album that follows is extremely hard to once again achieve the same praise or even better that the previous album did. Few bands have ever done this and in my opinion, Deftones did a fine job doing a follow up to White Pony. In no ways is it a fuck up or a piece of shit. But, everyone is allowed to have an opinion, let alone express it. I was just trying to see what it was that you loathed about it so much.
IF SNW would have followed WP.  My head would have exploded with how amazing this band is.

mr.sinister

Quote from: Variable on Aug 23, 2008, 07:36 AM
Quote from: White Pwny on Aug 23, 2008, 04:29 AM
WooOOoooT!  Do it!!    and give detailed info about how you feel about each song!  YETH!
lol, so I fell asleep instead.  But I swear I will here in a bit.
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 23, 2008, 04:36 AM
Hahaha and you think HITE sucks...one of my favorites on SNW. That song is ethereal and gorgeous. It's songs like Pink Cellphone that sucked. Oh well. To each their own, I guess.
Yeah, HITE is horrible.  Just plain horrible.  Pink cell phone was just a song for fun.  Its not like a great song.  But I took it for what it was.  Fun.  Rats Rats Rats, just a song to appeal to all those crying about how deftones are not hard anymore.  but like Cherry Waves and Kimdracula ect, those are amazing songs.
Quote from: mr.sinister on Aug 23, 2008, 05:42 AM
Quote from: White Pwny on Aug 23, 2008, 02:12 AM
I don't dislike any Deftones album.  In fact, I love them all.. White Pony being obviously my favorite...  but my least favorite of all is SNW.  
Same here :) SNW has Cherry Waves and Rivière which are beautiful works and no words can sum them up.

@Variable

Variable, dude, you gotta give s/t another spin. That record is so dark and just fucking hauntingly beautiful. Sure, some songs might not be up to par with others  they wrote in the past, but try and appreciate it for what it is, rather than what its not. The thing about masterpieces, and White Pony is a masterpiece despite what anyone may say, is that the album that follows is extremely hard to once again achieve the same praise or even better that the previous album did. Few bands have ever done this and in my opinion, Deftones did a fine job doing a follow up to White Pony. In no ways is it a fuck up or a piece of shit. But, everyone is allowed to have an opinion, let alone express it. I was just trying to see what it was that you loathed about it so much.
IF SNW would have followed WP.  My head would have exploded with how amazing this band is.
I see...

Well I hope you enjoy s/t a little more this time around than the last.

Variable

Im trying to find the actual interview where they said they got lazy writing this album.  But so far all I can find is this.  It's a good start though. # 8 if you care to check me.

"In recent interviews the band describe how they had become lazy in the making of this record;"

http://www.metacritic.com/music/artists/deftones/deftones

Penicks

#58
Quote from: Deftones-88-05-Deftones on Aug 22, 2008, 07:33 PM
Deathblow because is the perfect song to be with my GF. Lovers is also another great song !!!!

You must have one depressing relationship 'cause that's one depressing song.

Also I got into the Defones by listening to SNW. Thought it was a great album. Then I listened to White Pony. I was amazed, it was a trillion times better. Then Adrenaline and ATF. Those sounded very different, but better than SNW as well. Then came ST. I heard it was their worst album. It blew me away. I'd masturbate to all the songs all day long.

In short; SNW is their worst.

cyppe101

HITE is a great song, my snw top 3 is: rapture, hite and combat.

Beware's album version sucks balls, but it sounded so good back when it's demo was on myspace, that was a good song.

ratsratsrats is an annoying piece of shit.