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[buddyboy101]

Hey ya'll, just a reminder that our boy Chino is showing up on several albums in August:

1.) Wagdug Futuristic Unity - Hakai ("Walls") - July 23, 2008
Purchase http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-cw-49-en-70-2t30.html
(Note: "You've Seen The Butcher" may be on this...)





2.) Norma Jean - The Anti Mother ("Surrender Your Sons"  "Robots 3 Humans 0", and "Murphy Was an Optimist") - August 5th, 2008
Great article: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1591126/20080717/id_0.jhtml
Behind the scenes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr2LguC5I0g
Purchase: http://bandmerch.seenon.com/detail.php?p=62293&v=normajean&SESSID=b79c3bae4d28028bebda34ff6aa18ffb





3.) Zach Hill (TS/Hella drummer) - Astrological Straits ("Keep Calm and Carry On") - August 12th, 2008
Purchase: http://www.amazon.com/Astrological-Straits-Zach-Hill/dp/B001BHTN9U





4.) Dance Gavin Dance - Untitled ("Caviar") - August 19, 2008
Purchase: http://www.amazon.com/Dance-Gavin/dp/B001BS0JOC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1216879483&sr=1-3





It's hard to find much info on the Dance Gavin Dance album.  I'm kinda curious how this collaboration came to exist.  The band's from Sac, so they're probably friends with the tones or something.  From what I understand Dance Gavin Dance is a teeny screamo band...I'm really not sure why Chino puts himself in these situations...  Let's see, his recent past collabs include Dead Poetic, Ill Nino, Droid, Will Haven, Dance Gavin Dance, and Norma Jean.  None of these bands are shite, but surely Chino could associate himself with either more diverse acts or more respected acts. 

[wither-I]

im so pumped for the zach hill effort!

[Inkblades]

From MTV.com:

Artist collaborations can happen in a number of different ways. In the realm of pop, they're usually orchestrated by some crafty record-label executive operating on the assumption that if you double the artists, you'll double the album sales. In hip-hop, often it's some producer who'll get two rappers in the same room and press "record." When metal and hardcore acts team up, it's almost always born out of touring — two bands will head out together, strike up a friendship along the way over brewskies and, at some point, agree to hit the studio.

For the members of Christian metalcore outfit Norma Jean, who wrangled Deftones frontman Chino Moreno for a guest spot on the track "Surrender Your Sons" from the band's forthcoming LP The Anti Mother (in stores August 5), it wasn't touring together but at the same time that helped beget the collaboration of their dreams.

"The way it started was, we were on tour at the same time they were on tour, and we kept hitting the same clubs within like a day of each other," recalled frontman Cory Brandan, from the Charlotte, South Carolina, stop on this summer's Warped Tour. He said all of the members of Norma Jean are tremendous D-Tones fans. "So we started leaving stuff for them. We'd leave merch and CDs and notes for them, telling them how much we liked their band. I remember playing the Fillmore in San Francisco, and we left them more stuff."

Apparently, Moreno and the rest of the Deftones found the left-behind gifts and took an interest in Norma Jean.

"I think we were playing in Norfolk, Virginia, one night, and they'd played the day before and left us a bunch of stuff," the singer said. "We were like, 'Wow.' That was literally our relationship for months — leaving each other stuff at different venues. Then we just got ahold of Chino, and he was down to do it. He took some time off from recording with the Deftones, and he came in for a couple of days while we were in the studio, and we wrote two songs: 'Surrender Your Sons' and another we didn't use."

Later on, Norma Jean used one of their contacts to get ahold of Page Hamilton, Helmet's esteemed mastermind. After catching the band's live show, he was in. But Brandan said they didn't just want these two hardcore icons swinging by to track guest vocals. They didn't want to just hurl prepared lyrics at them, shove them into a recording booth and say, "Go." They took a different approach.

"We wanted to collaborate with these artists and have their personalities in the songs as well," he said. "Because their personalities fit with the vocals they'd be doing later, and it makes the songs cooler. The one we worked on with Chino, it sounds like a mix between the Deftones and Norma Jean , and the one we do with Page, same thing — it sounds like Helmet meets Norma Jean. We didn't want to just have guest vocalists come in, we wanted to collaborate with them and write songs — have them come in as if they were in the band. It was cool to see how others work within your own band."

Seeing as The Anti Mother is their final album for Solid State Records, the only label home they've ever known, Brandan said they "wanted to go out with a bang," and securing Moreno and Hamilton — as well as producer Ross Robinson — helped. Ultimately, the singer said he's confident that this is their best offering to date.

"We've been working our butts off on this record more than any other record we've done, and we put our souls into this record," he said. "It's a heavy record, and there's tons of melody throughout the record too. We've experimented with tons of melodies, mixed with chaos and heavy riffs, and I'm singing on some songs. There are songs on here that are that straight-up, classic Norma Jean sound, and there are songs on this record that we've always wanted to write but hadn't. We didn't want to pull any punches, musically."

The band began working on The Anti Mother last fall with new drummer Chris Raines and recorded the LP's final note just three days before they had to head out on Warped. For Brandan, who has two children (ages 14 and 9), a lot of the lyrics on the album were inspired by his own personal travails; he separated from his wife back in January and headed for his second divorce. Dealing with that pain helped shape the songs' meanings.

In addition to a headlining trek this fall with Haste the Day and Oh, Sleeper, Brandan said Norma Jean are mulling where they'll end up next, now that they've fulfilled their Solid State contract. While none of the majors have approached the band yet, the deluge of free dinners is just around the corner.

"We want to wait and be patient and not jump into something foolish," he said, obviously learning from the mistakes of other bands that have made the major-label jump, only to regret it. "I don't think, at this point in the music industry, that it's a bad idea to be a free agent. So we want to experiment and try some things out. We're just waiting to see what comes across the table."

[Inkblades]

(Note: "You've Seen The Butcher" may be on this...)

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[deftfan]

Thanks for this info...
Dance Gavin Dance - Caviar (feat. Chin Moreno) - very good song, Chino voice is nice here

[Martin]

Thanks for the update, wasn't aware of some of those guest spots.

Let's see, his recent past collabs include Dead Poetic, Ill Nino, Droid, Will Haven, Dance Gavin Dance, and Norma Jean.  None of these bands are shite, but surely Chino could associate himself with either more diverse acts or more respected acts.

I disagree with that. Comparing all guestings he's done there are a multitude of different bands and styles: metal, numetal, hardcore, metalcore, emo, softrock and hiphop to name a few on top of my head. Whether the acts are respectable, well, that depends on the definition, and probably on taste as well. Besides, shouldn't he just work with whoever he wants, without wondering about status? Surely, most of his collaborations turned out to be rather good (at least, I thought so). Got me into a few new bands.

And lastly, Will Haven surely is respectable

[buddyboy101]

Thanks for the update, wasn't aware of some of those guest spots.

Let's see, his recent past collabs include Dead Poetic, Ill Nino, Droid, Will Haven, Dance Gavin Dance, and Norma Jean.  None of these bands are shite, but surely Chino could associate himself with either more diverse acts or more respected acts.

I disagree with that. Comparing all guestings he's done there are a multitude of different bands and styles: metal, numetal, hardcore, metalcore, emo, softrock and hiphop to name a few on top of my head. Whether the acts are respectable, well, that depends on the definition, and probably on taste as well. Besides, shouldn't he just work with whoever he wants, without wondering about status? Surely, most of his collaborations turned out to be rather good (at least, I thought so). Got me into a few new bands.

And lastly, Will Haven surely is respectable

I feel ya Tuck, but notice I said bands that are more respected or more diverse - all those bands play metal, or some derivative of it.  I wish he'd show up on some hip hop or new wave shit like m83, portishead etc

Also I was referencing his recent collabs.  Surely all of his collabs paint a different picture with the like of Handsome Boy Modeling School, Cypress, Tinfed, etc

[Martin]

Thanks for the update, wasn't aware of some of those guest spots.

Let's see, his recent past collabs include Dead Poetic, Ill Nino, Droid, Will Haven, Dance Gavin Dance, and Norma Jean.  None of these bands are shite, but surely Chino could associate himself with either more diverse acts or more respected acts.

I disagree with that. Comparing all guestings he's done there are a multitude of different bands and styles: metal, numetal, hardcore, metalcore, emo, softrock and hiphop to name a few on top of my head. Whether the acts are respectable, well, that depends on the definition, and probably on taste as well. Besides, shouldn't he just work with whoever he wants, without wondering about status? Surely, most of his collaborations turned out to be rather good (at least, I thought so). Got me into a few new bands.

And lastly, Will Haven surely is respectable

I feel ya Tuck, but notice I said bands that are more respected or more diverse - all those bands play metal, or some derivative of it.  I wish he'd show up on some hip hop or new wave shit like m83, portishead etc

Also I was referencing his recent collabs.  Surely all of his collabs paint a different picture with the like of Handsome Boy Modeling School, Cypress, Tinfed, etc

I see your point clearer now my man Indeed, considering recent bands you named they are all kind of in the rock'ish area of the whole music palette. Though I must admit to finding a track off of Will Haven's 'The Hierophant' and the Dead Poetic track rather diverse, even in the same rock'ish category. But it's probably that, would be interesting to see what would happen if he'd work in styles completely different. Blues? Dance?

And yes, definitely, Chino working with M83 and/or Portishead would be great. It's a pity that planned collaboration with Mogwai ('Cortez') didn't happen. Maybe something with This Will Destroy You.

[buddyboy101]

Hey Tuck!  Something else I was thinking about, and goes along with your point, is that it's not necessarily the bands that are important but the songs.  For instance, even though Ill Nino is a metal band, Chino and them covered a Mike Patton song ("Zombie Eaters").  And as always, Chino always adds something pretty damn brilliant to his collabs.  Even the screamfest that is "Vengance Is Mine" (Droid) is absolutely blood-curdling and gnarly.  If Deftones runs out of gas any time soon, I can definitely see Chino producing more albums and becoming a respected producer in the music world.

[wither-I]

Thanks for this info...
Dance Gavin Dance - Caviar (feat. Chin Moreno) - very good song, Chino voice is nice here

where's this? id like to hear...

[cEvin Key]

Thanks for this info...
Dance Gavin Dance - Caviar (feat. Chin Moreno) - very good song, Chino voice is nice here

where's this? id like to hear...

here you go

http://www.mediafire.com/?wmcjvommc94

[frud]

Thanks for this info...
Dance Gavin Dance - Caviar (feat. Chin Moreno) - very good song, Chino voice is nice here

where's this? id like to hear...

here you go

http://www.mediafire.com/?wmcjvommc94

Can someome upload this on a different page for me, this one wont work.

Thanks.

[deftonekid]

just the Chino colab, pls

[Inkblades]

http://www.zshare.net/audio/15629296b7e25a0b/

[lithium]

reminds me of glassjaw... but don't hold that against me

[Noia]

chino is God; he just made that song sounds fucking amazing;

[Hidalgo]

chino is God; he just made that song sounds fucking amazing;

he is one bad mother effer

[Martin]

Hey Tuck!  Something else I was thinking about, and goes along with your point, is that it's not necessarily the bands that are important but the songs.  For instance, even though Ill Nino is a pretty blah-metal band, Chino and them covered a Mike Patton song ("Zombie Eaters").  And as always, Chino always adds something pretty damn brilliant to his collabs.  Even the meatheaded screamfest that is "Vengance Is Mine" (Droid) is absolutely blood-curdling and gnarly.  If Deftones runs out of gas any time soon, I can definitely see Chino producing more albums and becoming a respected producer in the music world.

Good point! Both tracks rock, but I also am not very interested in both bands.
Gonna download that Dance Gavin Dance thing, wonder what that'll sound like

EDIT: Wow. Awesome. Track rules. Just awesome hearing Chino's voice on some new music again.

[buddyboy101]

amen.  that track is incredible!  chino kept his voice in the lows/mids, which sounds like silk.  i feel like on snw chino strained to hit the highs and screams...

[Martin]

Yeah, he did mix in more highs and screams then previously. Hard to hit live.