You know what's hilarious?

[deftonekid]

I prefer ST over SNW.... but then again, it all depends on my mood.   


Sidenote.. Id take WP over all, anyday.

S/T pwns SNW. its as simple as that.

Agreed!
I think SNW is my last favorite deftones album, that doesnt mean it's bad of course

[Inkblades]

great thread. this has never been discussed before

What else are we going to talk about? Besides "OMGZ Chongo got fatz LMAO", of course...until the new album hits, we'll be recycling discussions non-stop.

[Timmy666]

"OMGZ Chongo got fatz LMAO"

Hahahahahaha.

[lithium]

Picking one over the other is futile. Theyre great in their own individual ways.

church

[Fireal1222]

i think SNW is by far the worst deftones album


some of the songs on that cd are just terrible.. especially all the songs toward the end..

the first 4 songs are okay. then the cd just gets awful


self titled on the other hand is absolutely amazing. i hated it at first but now i just love it

[E-Money]

i think SNW is by far the worst deftones album


some of the songs on that cd are just terrible.. especially all the songs toward the end..

the first 4 songs are okay. then the cd just gets awful



self titled on the other hand is absolutely amazing. i hated it at first but now i just love it


Not at all.  S/T is my favorite tones album but i dont think combat, kimdracula, and riviere are bad songs.  Riviere might be my favorite deftones song because it's so unique.  I thought the songs in the middle of the album were a little weak....like mein,uudd whatever the fuck its called and rats.

[Corleone]

s/t takes a morning crap on snw every morning

ahahahaha it does

s/t is way more epic snw was handled bad.. as in i didn't like the production



rivieve could have been longer

[theis]

i think SNW is by far the worst deftones album


some of the songs on that cd are just terrible.. especially all the songs toward the end..

the first 4 songs are okay. then the cd just gets awful

uhm, wrong.

it's the middle of the album that sucks (except xerces).

the last three songs are some of the best on the album. along with beware and cherry waves.

[bangbang240]

uhm, wrong.

it's the middle of the album that sucks (except xerces).

the last three songs are some of the best on the album. along with beware and cherry waves.

I totally agree with that.. I also really dislike the production of SNW. I'm glad I'm not the only one that notices that...

[Bergerac]

Uh, I recall back when SNW was released and I was amongst the handful of people who knew it was shit back then. People were so eager to ditch S/T. How things have changed...

[Starz]

Yeah I remember when I first came on here there were only a handful of people who liked S/T as much as I did. Maybe people gave S/T another listen and discovered just how amazing it really is...

[Far away]

I prefer ST over SNW....

ditto

[Deftones86]

I do think that S/T is alot better than SNW. I mean i think i would say that SNW was a good album, if it was from any other band, but i hold Deftones higher than all other bands, i expect more from them creatively... and I think that Cherry Waves, Beware and  Rivière are great songs individually. With SNW if im listening to it i skip around but with every other Deftones album i can go from beginning to end and not want to skip a track. and in my opinion Battle-Axe is the best song on S/T and my second best song all-time after Be Quiet and Drive...

[whodunit?]

great thread. this has never been discussed before

I thought that people have made all kind of stupid threads what's hot and what's not, but the thing is constantly happening. Where are the mods?

[vadimo]

i think ST is the best, i can imagine myself listening to it forever even when my music taste changes in totally different direction.

there is something about the album, a very different feel to it comparing to other records.

[Hesperian Death-Horse!]

S/T is totally unique. Its like a ghost or something. I don't know how to describe it. Its extremely powerful for me. I really like SNW. I think I can listen to it a lot and not get tired except for one problem. "Beware" feels like a hurdle that I have to get over to enjoy the rest of the album. I hate skipping tracks. I like to listen to albums in full and honestly, "Mein" and "Xerxes" are a bit tiresome but still fun to listen to. I find myself sometimes dreading the disruption that is "Beware." I'm all like "Yeah, this album rocks. "Hole In The Earth," "Rapture," "Rats!Rats!Rats!" Why the fuck don't I listen to this album as mu....Oh shit. There it is. "Beware." I am so sick of this song." It just interrupts the rest of the album. I think the aforementioned lacking songs could have been replaced by some fleshed out Ezrin demos. There are a few great contenders on there that really should have made the cut.

But anyway. Its a cool album. S/T will always be the most powerful Deftones album for me, though. The imagery, the tones, the booklet, everything about it is phenomenal. I will say however, that I feel Moana is kind of a weak ending. I just don't love it like the I love the rest of the songs.

[Starz]

I think Moana is a very under-rated song in my opinion, I really like it.

[Deftones-argentina]

I really like how moana finishes. But I also think that they could have produced that song better, don't sounds that polished in my mind.

[UrZ*]

S/T's riffage was good, but the majority of songs were just too "sluggish"/slow imo. The lyrics were insane, the drums a bit basic on some songs..

And on SNW I like the pace a lot better, but the lyrics are a bit "simple" on some tracks. I mean Chino's lyrics change on everything he does.

First we had adrenaline, which is pretty weird
around the fur, which is probably even more focused on relationships and even darker/weirder.
white pony, love those lyrics...really nice "stories"
s/t, really weird lyrics man i don't really get most of em. Lots of have to do with history I think or something.
snw, really basic, minimalistic lyrics (like BQAD but not always in a good way...)

same with teamsleep, again the style is completely different...

[rainnyx4]

S/T was their worst.  It had good ideas but weren't fully fleshed out because the band got too lazy.