obama

[White Pwny]

Ok ok...    WW2 ARMY FTW.   Is that better?   

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Actually...my brother was in the navy,along with my uncle who works on submarines to this day,and my cousin who is 21 is in the navy....fuck you very much.

I actually knew that.  I also figured you would bring it up.  Just didn't feel like going though your family tree.  Your granddad was a Master Chief.  And the way you talk about him, you had a lot of respect for him.  So I assumed ( and all the stereotypes that go along with it ) that the pinnacle of your views of the Navy stemmed from him so I used him as an example.

So....ur calling urself a fat lazy pussy? You DO wear the navy uniform,wether you're "technically" a marine or not.

And I realize that I am technically in the Navy.  However I do wear  marine uniform to work every single day.  When I posted those pics of me in the Navy uniform.  It was because it was the first time I wore a navy uniform in 2 years. 

But in all seriousness all services have their pros and cons.  Some navy guys are pretty cool.  Some navy jobs are pretty cool.  And I do have some navy pride.  But I have seen the ins and outs of both services, and I'm really unimpressed with the majority of the navy. 

Actually I'm really unimpressed at the rest of the military as a whole.  Not because they are bad people.  I meet really awesome people from all services.  I am unimpressed at them as war fighters.  Their is a really big difference you know?  I realize I was being a punk just to be a punk, but this last part was sincere.  All of them ( or most of them ) great Americans.  But thats not what they are getting paid for, you know?

Ok ok...    WW2 ARMY FTW.   Is that better?   

WW2 Army was MUCh better.  But so was the WW2 Marine corps.  our generation is a bunch of pussies

[devilinside]

Actually I'm really unimpressed at the rest of the military as a whole.  Not because they are bad people.  I meet really awesome people from all services.  I am unimpressed at them as war fighters.  Their is a really big difference you know?  I realize I was being a punk just to be a punk, but this last part was sincere.  All of them ( or most of them ) great Americans.  But thats not what they are getting paid for, you know?

I getcha...

[Jerry_Curls]

HAI2u. I'm back...

Georgian congressman warns of Obama dictatorship [nice...more people need to be aware of this!]

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iRxZox4GFoIweckPDP1oRhKBlHOwD94CCDU00

WASHINGTON (AP) — A Republican congressman from Georgia said Monday he fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist or fascist dictatorship.

"It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he's the one who proposed this national security force," Rep. Paul Broun said of Obama in an interview Monday with The Associated Press. "I'm just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may — may not, I hope not — but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism."

Broun cited a July speech by Obama that has circulated on the Internet in which the then-Democratic presidential candidate called for a civilian force to take some of the national security burden off the military.

"That's exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it's exactly what the Soviet Union did," Broun said. "When he's proposing to have a national security force that's answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he's showing me signs of being Marxist."

Obama's comments about a national security force came during a speech in Colorado about building a new civil service corps. Among other things, he called for expanding the nation's foreign service and doubling the size of the Peace Corps "to renew our diplomacy."

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," Obama said in July. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

Broun said he also believes Obama likely will move to ban gun ownership if he does build a national police force.

Obama has said he respects the Second Amendment right to bear arms and favors "common sense" gun laws. Gun rights advocates interpret that as meaning he'll at least enact curbs on ownership of assault weapons and concealed weapons. As an Illinois state lawmaker, Obama supported a ban on semiautomatic weapons and tighter restrictions on firearms generally.

"We can't be lulled into complacency," Broun said. "You have to remember that Adolf Hitler was elected in a democratic Germany. I'm not comparing him to Adolf Hitler. What I'm saying is there is the potential."

Obama's transition office did not respond immediately to Broun's remarks.

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I think that is a bit of a stretch.  I mean, I think you and I see eye to eye as far as trusting the government goes.  But I just really think that was a lame pre election attempt to scare people into voting Republican. 

I am trying really hard to be optimistic about Obama.  I have spent the better parts of the past few days trying to level the heads of some of my more "conservative" friends.  A lot of people in the military are genuinely scared about Obama for various ( yet legitimate ) reasons.  But while I am still trying to curb my own fears, I have been trying to reassure people that it really will more than likely be ok.  Maybe even more than ok.  Obama is not my ideal candidate.  But fuck man, lets face it, neither was McCain.  Men like Paul and Nader just stand for too much right now for the American people to recognize to potential.  I still believe 100% that we should be 100% skeptical of any and every politician.  But I'm going to give Obama a chance.  I'm going to wait until he actually tries some of this rumored bull shit before I really get in a hissy about him.

On a side note though.  All this talk about executive orders really has me worried.  That is one of the reasons that Bush was such a horrible president.  Now it seems that Obama wants to follow in his foot steps.

[bright lights, big city]

But I'm going to give Obama a chance.  I'm going to wait until he actually tries some of this rumored bull shit before I really get in a hissy about him.

thanks man, you are one of the few conservatives i've heard that aren't shitting their pants right now from "democratic fear"

[bright lights, big city]

"That's exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it's exactly what the Soviet Union did," Broun said. "When he's proposing to have a national security force that's answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he's showing me signs of being Marxist."

hearing the words "Hitler" and "Nazi" in a story about Obama was all I needed to stop reading that BS

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But I'm going to give Obama a chance.  I'm going to wait until he actually tries some of this rumored bull shit before I really get in a hissy about him.

thanks man, you are one of the few conservatives i've heard that aren't shitting their pants right now from "democratic fear"

i was pretty scared when he was elected to be honest.  Like, genuinely scared.  But then I realized that I would be just as worried if McCain was elected.  I am just scared because I don't know exactly how far the next president is going to go with expanding the power of the executive branch. 

But I started to realize that no matter how uneducated the vote was.  America voted in Obama because they believe in the America that he is supposed to represent.  So it gave me a little bit of hope.  That maybe the people are sick of a footloose government.  Maybe the people will start to pay attention and demand the hope and change that Obama is supposed to stand for.  Or maybe I was just flat wrong and his intentions are good and he will govern good.  All I know is that he is now my president ( or will be in two months ) and until he starts to violate the constitution like Bush did.  I will give him the respect that the position comes with. 

Just please people, pay attention to this executive order bull shit.  We have check and balances for a reason.

[devilinside]

HAI2u. I'm back...

Georgian congressman warns of Obama dictatorship [nice...more people need to be aware of this!]

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iRxZox4GFoIweckPDP1oRhKBlHOwD94CCDU00

WASHINGTON (AP) — A Republican congressman from Georgia said Monday he fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist or fascist dictatorship.

"It may sound a bit crazy and off base, but the thing is, he's the one who proposed this national security force," Rep. Paul Broun said of Obama in an interview Monday with The Associated Press. "I'm just trying to bring attention to the fact that we may — may not, I hope not — but we may have a problem with that type of philosophy of radical socialism or Marxism."

Broun cited a July speech by Obama that has circulated on the Internet in which the then-Democratic presidential candidate called for a civilian force to take some of the national security burden off the military.

"That's exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it's exactly what the Soviet Union did," Broun said. "When he's proposing to have a national security force that's answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he's showing me signs of being Marxist."

Obama's comments about a national security force came during a speech in Colorado about building a new civil service corps. Among other things, he called for expanding the nation's foreign service and doubling the size of the Peace Corps "to renew our diplomacy."

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," Obama said in July. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

Broun said he also believes Obama likely will move to ban gun ownership if he does build a national police force.

Obama has said he respects the Second Amendment right to bear arms and favors "common sense" gun laws. Gun rights advocates interpret that as meaning he'll at least enact curbs on ownership of assault weapons and concealed weapons. As an Illinois state lawmaker, Obama supported a ban on semiautomatic weapons and tighter restrictions on firearms generally.

"We can't be lulled into complacency," Broun said. "You have to remember that Adolf Hitler was elected in a democratic Germany. I'm not comparing him to Adolf Hitler. What I'm saying is there is the potential."

Obama's transition office did not respond immediately to Broun's remarks.

Comin from a place that still has confederate flags flyin.

[Corleone]

sooo has poverty and hunger been cured yet?

[devilinside]

Obama isn't in office yet.

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sooo has poverty and hunger been cured yet?

NO! and I'm still horny too! fucking Obama!  He said things would change.

[lostpilot]

sooo has poverty and hunger been cured yet?

NO! and I'm still horny too! fucking Obama!  He said things would change.

sooo reminiscent of the South Park episode.
ha.

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[lostpilot]

WHERE'S THE CHAAAAAAA-I-NGE

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In a moment of seriousness.  I really am starting to worry for the man.  The more I pay attention to the relief some people have because of his victory, the MORE I realize what completely unrealistic expectations people have for this man.

If he could cap spending.  Then maybe even lower spending.  Then even balance the budget.  He would have done an amazing job for the country.  But it seems like some people think that any day now they will wake up and a new edition is going to be put on their home.  Right along with matching Robes and Slippers with gold encrusted Os.  That a full time job is going to be 30 hours a week and the rest of the free time will be spent hugging service members whose units are returning home after being stationed or deployed abroad for the past 60 years......... I think that America,  No I think that the world, needs to come back to Earth already.

[Necrocetaceanbeastiality]

There may never be a logical need for war but it's in our nature and will never change.

This is the mindset that is the root of all problems.

[Law]

It's hard to understand the mind set of a real warrior of you have never walked those shoes.  It takes something else to be the guy that runs towards the gun fire ( marines ) rather than the guy that runs away ( The Army )

"Mankind must put an end to war, or war will put an end to mankind...War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today."
-- John F. Kennedy

did he say that right before he sent troops to Vietnam?

That doesn't matter, I don't care who said it, the point still stands.

[Jedidiah Solomon]

Obama is a good guy. If you deny that then you have a hateful heart. Fuck what he's apart of, nobody disagrees with politricks more than me, but at least he's apart of the better half, anything on that right side is a bit too dangerous, at least over here we can hope and pray.

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It's hard to understand the mind set of a real warrior of you have never walked those shoes.  It takes something else to be the guy that runs towards the gun fire ( marines ) rather than the guy that runs away ( The Army )

"Mankind must put an end to war, or war will put an end to mankind...War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today."
-- John F. Kennedy

did he say that right before he sent troops to Vietnam?

That doesn't matter, I don't care who said it, the point still stands.

lol.  I kind of have to disagree with you.  I think that too often people focus on the unobtainable and ignore reality.  There are all kinds of wonderful ideals out there that would just be amazing if they were plausible.  But they really aren't.  So if you have a man speaking with conviction of Ideals, who then had to give them up in order to start the longest war In US history.  I think that speaks a great amount all on its own.

Or, maybe he just said that because he knew its what people would want to hear.  In which case it makes it even more BS.

Obama is a good guy. If you deny that then you have a hateful heart. Fuck what he's apart of, nobody disagrees with politricks more than me, but at least he's apart of the better half, anything on that right side is a bit too dangerous, at least over here we can hope and pray.

see, thats a problem I have right there.  I don't actually know that Obama is a good guy.  I am very skeptical of a charade.  Not just with him, pretty much with any politician.  But the topic is about him, I just want to make it clear that I'm not singling him out, so save the hate speech.

But honestly, how do we really know he is a good guy?  You can't really listen to the words of a politician.  Their actions are the only true measure of who they are.  To me, Obama seems to be a man who has benefited from inaction.  So I really don't know much about him at all.  I'm going to wait before I say he is a good man.  But I'm not calling him a bad man either.