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[Jerry_Curls]

How about this? If Obama wins, he will be an unConstitutional President of the United States and I'm pretty sure a lot of people will NOT find that fair. I am guessing this will be when people riot or start full on marching.

Obama is NOT American. How can people vote for someone like this?

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.1614/pub_detail.asp



October 28, 2008
The Great Obama Swindle of 2008

Raymond Kraft

PART ONE
OBAMA: THE ILLEGAL ALIEN

I have become 100% convinced, to a moral certainty, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Barack Obama is not only not a "natural born citizen" as required by the U.S. Constitution to be president, but that he was not even born in the USA, not born in Hawaii, probably in Kenya, never naturalized. If he is elected, he will be the UnConstitutional President from the moment he takes the oath of office, the first president who is not a citizen of the United States.

Why I am so sure?

I was not convinced by the lawsuits filed by Philip Berg, Andy Martin, Jerome Corsi, and others seeking disclosure of Obama's birth certificate. I was not convinced by the books and articles that now abound contesting Obama's origins. I was convinced by the behavior of Barack Obama and his lawyers, asking the governor of Hawaii to seal Obama's birth certificate so it could not be seen, by anyone, and by the behavior of Barack Obama and his lawyers, sealing his records at Columbia University and Harvard Law. Barack Obama is hiding himself from America. And he wants to be POTUS, and Commander-in-Chief.

In the litigation business, one quickly learns that if somebody has a document that will be good for them, they can't wait to give it to you. And if somebody has a document that will hurt them, they'll be tap dancing faster than Richard Gere in Chicago to keep you from getting it.

Obama is tap dancing.

If I were Obama's lawyers, and if there was a good, authentic, birth certificate that proved Barack Obama's birth in Hawaii, I would tell him to instruct the Hawaiian Department of Health to provide a certified copy to every journalist who asked about it, to the Courts and plaintiffs in all the lawsuits, and to make the original available for inspection by any expert forensic document examiner any litigant or news agency engaged to examine the birth certificate for authenticity. I would tell him to come clean, and end the speculation. And I would tell him that the speculation could cost him the election.

But that's not what Obama's lawyers are doing, they're filling motions for summary judgment, not on the merits of the case, but on "technicalities," at least in the Berg case, arguing that Citizens, voters, do not have standing to enforce the United States Constitution, and at least one judge, Richard Barclay Surrick, has agreed.

But what Obama and his lawyers and the Democrat National Committee (DNC) are not doing is being open and honest with America. They're tap dancing faster than Richard Gere in Chicago. So we are forced to this conclusion as a matter of logical necessity:

1.    If Barack Obama could produce a good birth certificate that would verify his status as a "natural born citizen," he would. Failing to do so can only hurt him. Failing to do so can cost him the election.

2.    He hasn't, and is doing all possible not to.

3.    Therefore, we can only conclude that he can't, and that his birth certificate, if it exists at all, is either altered, forged, or shows him born outside the U.S. We have to conclude that producing his birth certificate, if he can, will prove he is not eligible to be president, not a natural born citizen, or not a citizen at all. We can only conclude that Obama and his lawyers know that producing his birth records will hurt him even more than not producing them.

Now, I could be wrong. Barack Obama can prove me wrong by producing a good birth certificate. But he hasn't. Will he? Can he?

PART TWO
NO "STANDING" TO SUE?

In the case of Berg v. Obama, US Federal Judge Richard Barclay Surrick agreed with Obama's lawyers and ruled that Berg, as a citizen, as a voter, has no "standing" to enforce the United States Constitution. I have read that other agencies have asserted that only another presidential candidate has standing to sue respecting the qualifications of a candidate, presumably because, arguendo, only another presidential candidate could be injured (lose an election) as a result of a non-qualified candidate on the ballot.

This may be the most patently absurd, illogical, incomprehensible, astonishing, mind-boggling, and utterly stupid argument I have ever heard in my life – and from a Federal Judge, at that. And if I didn't make myself perfectly clear, let me know and I'll try again.

Let's do the analysis.

1.    The U.S. Constitution is a CONTRACT between The People, The States, and The United States, the federal government, that defines and limits the role of the federal government, and the rights of the States and The People, and, among other things, defines and limits the qualifications for president, i.e., that the president must be over the age of 35 years, and must be a natural born citizen.

2.    Any party to a CONTRACT has standing to enforce it. This is as basic as it gets. Contract Law 101. First week of law school stuff. And it seems that lawyers and judges all over the country have forgotten all about it. Also, the Constitution was intended to benefit all American citizens, We, The People, and in basic contract law the intended beneficiaries of a CONTRACT, i.e., us, also have standing to enforce it.

3.    If We, The People, do not have standing to enforce the CONTRACT, the U.S. Constitution, then it is unenforceable, and if it is unenforceable it is just a historic curiosity that means nothing. It's just an old piece of parchment. But that was not the intent, and to give intent to the CONTRACT it must be enforceable by its parties and beneficiaries.

4.    We, The People, have standing under the First Amendment "to petition the government for redress of grievances." If we have a grievance that a non-citizen, illegal alien, is running for president, I think the First Amendment unequivocally gives every American citizen standing to sue the government to redress that grievance and enforce the Constitution.

I think Judge Richard Barclay Surrick is dead wrong, illogically wrong, irrationally wrong, legally wrong, I think his legal analysis of this issue, in legalese, stinks.

PART THREE
THE DUTY OF CONGRESS

Article II, Section 1, requires that upon taking office the President of the United States shall take the following oath:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of the President of the
United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution
of the United States."

Article VI, Clause 3, requires that Senators and Representatives requires:

"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution . . ."

Members of Congress take this oath:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."

Having taken this oath, Sen. Barack Obama has violated his oath of office if he is refusing to disclose a birth certificate that proves his candidacy for president is unconstitutional, and I believe this is a mandatory basis for his impeachment.

Having taken these oaths, the President, the Vice President (an executive officer of the United States), every member of the Senate and House, every member of every State legislature, and every executive and judicial officers of the United States and of each State, has a mandatory duty per Article VI Clause 3 of the US Constitution to "support and defend" the Constitution, and that would necessarily include taking whatever action is necessary to assure that no person who does not meet the Constitutional requirement of "natural born citizen" ever becomes President.

And every Federal Judge, and every Justice of the Supreme Court, having taken this oath, also have a mandatory duty to "protect and defend" the Constitution by doing whatever is necessary to assure that no person who does not meet the Constitutional requirement of "natural born citizen" ever becomes President. Indeed, I believe that the Supreme Court has a sua sponte duty to resolve this dispute by ordering, on its own initiative, the immediate production of all of Obama's birth records in order to confirm his place of birth, and prevent the election of an UnConstitutional President. So far, all Justices of the Supreme Court have failed this mandatory duty.

So far, the President, the Vice President, every member of Congress, Democrats and Republicans alike, ever Federal Judge and Justice, every member of every State legislature, and every governor, have failed in this duty. They have all failed to fulfill their oaths of office. Every one. They must all demand that Sen. Barack Obama either (a) produce a good birth certificate proving his status as a "natural born citizen," or (b) withdraw his candidacy before November 4th.

All those who do not should be impeached for having failed their oath of office.

PART FOUR
THE GREATEST SWINDLE IN HISTORY

If Senator Barack Hussein Obama cannot prove that he is a "natural born citizen," then Obama, the Democrat National Committee, the Democrats in the Senate and House who support him, and others such as former president Bill Clinton who openly support him, have perpetrated the greatest swindle in history by falsely and fraudulently misrepresenting Obama as Constitutionally eligible to be president, concealing the truth about his place of birth, thereby inducing millions of Democrats by the fraud of concealment, by the lie of non-disclosure, by "trick and device," to invest hundreds of millions of dollars in the Barack Obama presidential campaign to elect an UnConstitutional President.

My opinion.

Note, this is a fraud perpetrated by Sen. Barack Obama, the DNC, and hundreds of Democrats in Congress, on their own constituency, the Democrat voters of America. It is a fraud of the Democrats, by the Democrats, and perpetrated on the Democrats. And it has defrauded Democrats out of more than $600 million.

According to their oaths of office, every Democrat member of Congress has an affirmative duty to assure that their presidential candidate is constitutionally qualified. As soon as questions about Obama's birth arose, every Democrat in Congress had a mandatory duty to confirm his eligibility by demanding release of his birth records. But, they have not. Not to my knowledge. Instead, every Democrat in Congress is complicit in the cover up – the cover up – of Obama's birth certificate, by failing to demand full disclosure to confirm his place of birth.

In my opinion, unless Obama can produce a good birth certificate proving that he is a "natural born citizen," then every Democrat member of Congress, every person managing Obama's campaign, every officer and director of the Democrat National Commitee, and every person who has ever taken an oath to "support and defend" the Constitution and is now supporting an UnConstitutional candidate for president, has participated in a vast left-wing conspiracy to defraud millions of Democrats out of hundreds of millions of dollars to elect an UnConstitutional President.

In my opinion, every one of these people, hundreds of them, should be prosecuted for fraud under the Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO), for if Obama is not a "natural born citizen," that is what the Democrat National Committee (DNC) has become. And every one of them should be tried, convicted, and sent to prison for decades, for this is a $600 billion swindle of America's Democrats, a swindle perpetrated by the DNC and Barack Obama.

Now, I could be wrong. I could be wrong about every opinion I have expressed here.

Sen. Barack Hussein Obama can prove me wrong, quickly, simply, easily, by opening the doors of the hospitals and the Hawaiian Department of Health and showing us, showing America, showing the Democrats, all of his birth records.

Unless and until he does, I will remain convinced that Barack Hussein Obama is not an American citizen.

FamilySecurityMatters.org Contributing Editor Raymond S. Kraft is an attorney and writer in Northern California. He can be contacted at rskraft@vfr.net.

[bright lights, big city]

it was nice of that right-wing website to use Obama's middle name several times in there. But anyway, i would think there would be some sort of background check of candidates this far into the election process, let alone years ago when he began a career as an elected public official

[goldpony]

it was nice of that right-wing website to use Obama's middle name several times in there. But anyway, i would think there would be some sort of background check of candidates this far into the election process, let alone years ago when he began a career as an elected public official

yeah, that seems logical. you would think if this was true, it would be a bigger story. remember how big a fuss was made because mccain was born in panama

[tarkil]

Who fucking cares anyway ?

As long as he's good to do the job, why fucking cares with stupid ass details....

[goldpony]

Who fucking cares anyway ?

As long as he's good to do the job, why fucking cares with stupid ass details....

We certainly dont want a frenchman who lives in hong kong running things is why

[tarkil]

Well I hope for you you don't want... Else you'd be pretty much fucked up....   

[bright lights, big city]

Who fucking cares anyway ?

As long as he's good to do the job, why fucking cares with stupid ass details....

legally, it does matter that politicians are citizens.

but i'm with you, elections are about who is BEST FOR THE JOB

[Jedidiah Solomon]

People wanna clown Obama and he's showing them he's a true african, he's got that wisdom, and he doesn't need to go make immature blows like the Wrong Wing. They wanna put him down for being Muslim, even though he's not, but if he were, he'd be that much better, muslims got nothing but respect for the world and it's laws, they'll do anything to link him with the terrorists who really aren't terrorists, TOP RANKIN'.

[Jerry_Curls]

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=96227586

Obama's Candidacy Angers, Excites Hate Groups

Read 1/3 down the article -

"There is a probable hypothesis that in the event that Obama becomes president that you could have a galvanization of these white supremacist groups," said John Karl, the officer in charge of the Los Angeles Police Department's criminal conspiracy unit. "Obviously, law enforcement needs to be prepared, and how do you prepare? You need to become as resourceful and comprehensively understand the groups and individuals involved."

Karl says the First Amendment ties law enforcement's hands. Officers cannot move in until and unless these groups actually commit a crime.

"If no crime has been committed, no activity has come up on the radar screen, we can't arbitrarily start rounding people up," he said. "There is a little problem with the Constitution and things like that."


This is why Obama is so against our 2nd amendment. They know thta if he becomes president, there will be some backlash to it and they can take away our guns, people against Obama will be labels terrorists...etc etc....this is going to be fun.

[Jedidiah Solomon]

I hope he does take away their guns.

[goldpony]

thats pretty fucked someone would say that. if you support the second amendment, you should support the first amendment, which enables the second amendment from vanishing. and anyone who says the constitution is a hinderance is the true terrorist

[Jedidiah Solomon]

thats pretty fucked someone would say that. if you support the second amendment, you should support the first amendment, which enables the second amendment from vanishing. and anyone who says the constitution is a hinderance is the true terrorist

Second ammendment, first amendment, alls it is, is numbers to me, and that's all it's been to this goverment from the start anyway. If that hasn't been apparent these last 8 years to you, then not only are they the terrorists, but so are you. If you believe in guns, what kind of belief is that? What do you need to Kill? What do you need to gain from a weapon? If you had a true heart, then you wouldn't need weapons. That's soft.

[defkitty]

First off anyone who thinks that the Constitution means a damn thing anymore is fucking ignorant.  Our government doesn't give a fuck about it anymore and the most we can hope for is one person, born here or not, that can make a positive difference.  If you wanna get into doing by the law on everything in government maybe you should look at the Patriot Act and the Military Commissions Act.  The latter was done overnight and wasn't questioned by anyone.  With shit like this going on I think the least of our worries is a president that might be born somewhere else.  As far as I'm concerned he's American.  He lives, works, pays taxes (which also contradicts the Constitution), and does positive community service in our nation.  Fuck the technicalities that's all anyone opposing him has anymore.  He's more "American" than a lot of people born here will ever be.

[Jizzlobber]

i just read he wants death penalty for child rape.

anyone else thinking this is pretty dumb?

Do you think child rape is a joke? its very extreme but, i think its justified. raping children is an appauling act! thats just wrong u know..i mean, its like, be a man u know, thats why men and women work so well together

[Variable]

Who fucking cares anyway ?

As long as he's good to do the job, why fucking cares with stupid ass details....

legally, it does matter that politicians are citizens.

but i'm with you, elections are about who is BEST FOR THE JOB

Bull shit dude.  Bull fucking shit.  If these elections were truly about the best man for the job, Obama wouldn't have a prayers chance.  How many times just on this board have I heard " oh well that 3rd party candidate is great, but he doesn't stand a chance to win, so ill vote for the lesser of two evils" ?  If it was truly about the best man for the job.  We would probably have something like 6 -8 legit candidates.  We would have true substance instead of talking points.  You would really have to prove that you were the best person for the job.  That you really have the best plan of the big issues.  The American people would listen to facts and new ideas instead of charisma.  This election isn't even close to "the best man for the job"

And the rest of you who are so obsessed with Obama need to wake the fuck up.  He is no where near as great as so many people think he is.  His entire political career has been based on inaction.  Just play it safe then use hind site to speak about the issue.  His entire campaign has been about empty slogans to which he offers no explanations or real plans.  Its amazing how many people just fell in love with him due to his story and charisma, instead of his plans for the country.

Oh, and the Patriot act is bull shit.  A 100% derailing of our republic.  It is more unconstitutional than anything I can think of.  But the constitution does still matter.  It is still the supreme law of the US.  If people would get off their ass and make it a point that they wanted the supreme court to try all these unconstitutional legislations, it might just happen.  It's called checks and balances for a reason.  The founding fathers knew that undoubting one of the 3 branches would try to expand its power.  So anyways, I'm sure you all understand that.  Quit griping about how fucked we are and how the constitution doesnt matter anymore.  Do something about it. 

[oldgentlovecraft]

Americans tend to turn their favorite candidates into saviors with each election.  It's sad but true.  I have to laugh at my brother who will fight to the death about his choice like the guy has been in his close circle of friends and donated a kidney to our mother lol.  We need to eliminate parties.  It's not like we can't decide whether or not the candidates stand for what we want without a label, right?  Most people just pick the affiliation then swear their allegiance.  Pathetic.

[bright lights, big city]

Quit griping about how fucked we are and how the constitution doesnt matter anymore.  Do something about it. 

but what? we need guidance, oh great one!

[Shaye]

it was nice of that right-wing website to use Obama's middle name several times in there. But anyway, i would think there would be some sort of background check of candidates this far into the election process, let alone years ago when he began a career as an elected public official

Yes. The same goes for the idea that Obama is muslim extremist/terrorist...how would he have gotten as far as he did? IF Obama was a terrorist, then it's the Good Ol' USA that's fucked up.

[shine down unshy]

I think if we elect this man for president, it will shine a little hope that the U.S. truly does stand for equality, freedom and your rights as a human being.  Afterall, those are the buildings blocks are fore fathers build this country on, right?  Finally, there will be black president who will change something for our country, and possibly the world.  Who knows?  I'm not saying McCain isn't good enough for the job but just too reminiscent of George W. Bush in my opinion.    Anyway, I know who I'm voting for Nov. 4th.

[Jerry_Curls]

He is not going to better this country. He is a puppet. A face for the corporations that give MILLIONS of dollars for his campaign. He doesn't owe anything to us. He just has to make sure these corporations get their tax cuts.

Trust me. Joe Biden said we would not like the decisions he is going to make even though NOTHING has happened for them to know which ones they will make.