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Americans tend to turn their favorite candidates into saviors with each election.  It's sad but true.  I have to laugh at my brother who will fight to the death about his choice like the guy has been in his close circle of friends and donated a kidney to our mother lol.  We need to eliminate parties.  It's not like we can't decide whether or not the candidates stand for what we want without a label, right?  Most people just pick the affiliation then swear their allegiance.  Pathetic.

Very true

Quit griping about how fucked we are and how the constitution doesnt matter anymore.  Do something about it. 

but what? we need guidance, oh great one!

um, Vote for a candidate who stands for what the country actually needs ( NOT OBAMA OR MCCAIN ), start a petition, call your congressman, run for office, pick an issue that matters to you and start a web site and try to attract attention to it, talk to people like we do here, talk to people on the street, join a debate club, join a local political affiliated club, get on a local city board, start a blog...... you can't tell me that you lack this much creativity to not even get this far.  You could join the police department and refuse to arrest anyone for possession of Marijuana.  You could join a federal law enforcement agency with the aspirations of rising far enough to the top to stop the agency from violating citizens constitutional rights.  You could join the military because you believe in the war on terror, or because you don't and you want to show it by being a conscientious objector, you could study journalism with aspirations of not falling into the normal media black out of important issues that done benefit the company.........all these take more balls of course.  Just depends how passionate you are.  

I personally strike up a lot of personal conversations with people I meet.  Usually from work.  If they seem interested I will buy them a copy of Ron Pauls book.  The only condition being that they read the whole thing and pass it on to someone else when they are done.  I have given out 5 so far.  Convinced 3 others to buy their own and read it ( because I did not live in their proximity) But it's only been a couple months.  So I don't think that is too bad.  I am also aiming my college studies towards subjects that I believe would make a better breed of politician.  In the mean time I read books to try and self educate.  I know my current political opinions are young and will need to mature a bit before I am sound in them.  But that's why I like talking about them so much.  It challenges them, so see if its what I really believe, or if there is something better out there.  

but pretty much.  If you vote Obama or McCain in this election.  You will perpetuate the cycle.   Ill admit, I voted today, and I was really tempted to vote McCain.  Not because I think he is great.  But because Obama's socialistic views scare the shit out of me.  But once again, that is voting for the lesser of two evils.  I just can't do that anymore.  So I proudly voted 3rd party.

it was nice of that right-wing website to use Obama's middle name several times in there. But anyway, i would think there would be some sort of background check of candidates this far into the election process, let alone years ago when he began a career as an elected public official

Yes. The same goes for the idea that Obama is muslim extremist/terrorist...how would he have gotten as far as he did? IF Obama was a terrorist, then it's the Good Ol' USA that's fucked up.

well duh shaye  The only people saying that shit are the few racist hermit loonies that the cameras always seem to find.  Your average republican does not think that Obama is a terrorist.  I'm sure that their are plenty of democrats out their preaching about Obama giving special prvliges to black people.  About re segregation but black people on top this time.  And how McCain will further drive the black man into slavery.  The media just happens to not pick up that 1 or 2% of the democrats out there.  Come on now, both of you are smarter than to fall for that shit

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I think if we elect this man for president, it will shine a little hope that the U.S. truly does stand for equality, freedom and your rights as a human being.  Afterall, those are the buildings blocks are fore fathers build this country on, right?  Finally, there will be black president who will change something for our country, and possibly the world.  Who knows?  I'm not saying McCain isn't good enough for the job but just too reminiscent of George W. Bush in my opinion.    Anyway, I know who I'm voting for Nov. 4th.

This is a perfect example of how mislead our nation has become.  Just the simple fact that you brought up the fact that he was black ( and that it is a positive thing instead of a neutral thing ) shows racism. 

and no, thats not what the founding fathers built our country on.  They were trying to build a country that was a true republic.  A land of freedom sure.  But a land where the people controled the government.  That was key.  We the people, thats where the building blocks are.  Not in the ideals, but in the way they envisioned a government being ran. 

and just for shits and giggles ( because I know you cant answer ) what exactly is Obama going to change?

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OOH OOH!! *waives hand*



Well for one...he will change the "white man" persona that has been in the white house since forever! OoooOOOh...




I'm kiddin.

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Right, because that's really important when it comes to governing a country.  I know you were just joking.  But you know a lot of people are voting just for that.  It's sick how racist this country is

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I agree. It's a horrible reason to vote for someone. I mean...I REALLY wanted a woman in office,but would not vote for McCain cause he has a female running mate.

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It just doesn't matter to me.  I just dont understand why people HAVE to think in groups.

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Birds of a feather....

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I actually agree with you about bringing up race, Race is an allusion, to me anyway, I don't look at life through a glass filled with smoke, everyone is the same, so being in I man's position I've never bought into race, knowing very well the Curses cast upon the so called African Americans brought here on slave ships to the western hemisphere, who were really the true Hebrew Israelites. Anyway, I don't care what the people may say, no nation is greater than another, but don't forget how America was truly built, dig deep if you don't already know, it was built off of every sin in any book and in any true heart, and is bloody apparent to those on the bottom of this so called shit stem system. I know if you all are happy because you can go drink and fornicate that you won't see it from another perspective, but that's the truth, and If this nation was even half as great as it says it, it wouldn't be that way. Nothing that starts out of complete Hatred can ever end in Love, basic facts of life.

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Eh, I don't think it shows racism simply because I noted he was black, so don't you even pull the race card.  I'm a very neutral person, I don't choose sides when it comes to political parties, I vote for the person who I believe will do better for our country.  Not counting the theories and claims of how he's just a figure head or some corporate puppet type deal.  As for what he's going to change, we'll see.  I'd rather him change something than McCain.  

And who's saying I'm voting for him because he's black?  I think you guys might've misinterpreted what I said.

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You stated that by him being elected it will show that America believes in equality.  That statement alone is racist in nature.

Then you said FINALLY we will have a black president.  You meant that in a positive way.  As in it is a positive thing that he is Black.  One would only assume that you meant it is a positive thing that he is black instead of white, seeing as how white is the only other race the president has ever been.

and you also said that he would change things.  As in, its a fact that he will change something.  So I'm either fishing for you to tell me what that change is.  Or admit that you fell victim to blindly follow a candidate due to branding and advertising.

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No matter who you vote for it will be because you "blindly follow a candidate due to branding and advertising."

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brilliant!

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Lol, everyone is on a bandwagon of some sort at more than one point in their lives.  Which reminds me of this quote for some reason, "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups."

I think it's funny referring to the presidency as a "bandwagon" though.  I actually lost a tiny bit more hope in humanity there.

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You stated that by him being elected it will show that America believes in equality.  That statement alone is racist in nature.

Then you said FINALLY we will have a black president.  You meant that in a positive way.  As in it is a positive thing that he is Black.  One would only assume that you meant it is a positive thing that he is black instead of white, seeing as how white is the only other race the president has ever been.

and you also said that he would change things.  As in, its a fact that he will change something.  So I'm either fishing for you to tell me what that change is.  Or admit that you fell victim to blindly follow a candidate due to branding and advertising.

Why did you vote for Obama?

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I didn't

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he voted for me....cuz i rawk!




lol

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I can't even come up with any reason why he would have thought that I voted for Obama.

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I misread a quote somewhere..only reason I said it.

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Ok.  But we all agree that you have no idea why you voted for Obama right?  You agree to falling victim to political branding and an inspiring but empty campaign slogan? I'm just basing this off your lack of an answer.