Emo?! Wtf?!

[Variable]

you thought way too hard about this.  Just because its technically "emotional" doesn't mean that whoever came up with the term meant it to be 100% literal.  I pretty much agree with all the bands you listed (just because someone opened for deftones does not make them good) But come on now.  You know an emo band when you hear one.  And they suck my ass

[White Pwny]

 

[Jani]

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[neutron liar]

EMO = shit rock/indie/punk bands who are full of guys sounding like whiny high school girls, worry about how they look way to much, and make trendy shit music.  Not to mention how gay all these dudes are crying about girls and life.  Grow some fucking balls.  I can't stand dudes running around with vaginas making music.  Its an assault on the ears.

Sreamo gives it an edge, but its hard to shake off the cheesyness of it all.

Unfortunatly, the media are trying to define all of this that ppl talk about, and HxC bands, other rock bands get lumped into being called emo.

How the fuck is Every Time I Die emo?  thats laughable.  They play HxC rock n roll and last I checked, don't sound like pansies when they sing.

and now the shit wave of music continues...if you recall, pop punk plauged the 90s until it turned into this "emo" sound.  Now...it seems Dance Rock is the new wave, and its still full of emo tendancies ala Fall Out Boy and Panic at the Disco.

This is why warped tour sucks more and more every year, there's no real punk bands on it anymore.  There's only a handfull on their list, and out of those, they're only playing a few dates...

[White Pwny]

I don't think half of the list is considered "bad" music.   I just typed in what I found online that ppl categorized into "Emo" category.   Hell I really like Thrice, Thursday, Every Time I Die.. and on and on....     I honestly don't give a fuck what people think about the music I like...     That is already obvious...   I just get pissed off about every single band that people don't like.. getting tagged "emo"... so my question was...    What exactly is Emo.. and is it bad?

[oldgentlovecraft]

emo music was once cool. until it became to be about the clothing and not the music.

good "emo" bands include;

sunny day real estate
american football
christie front drive
mineral

etc.

FUCK the scene shit.

Hell yeah, true emo.

Here's what I think:

1.  The emo argument is overdone.  It was, and still is for a few bands, a musical style.  It's nothing new.  A lot of so called emo bands of today are playing post hardcore, pop punk, or some other derivative of punk and being called emo by misinformed ass hats because it's become a fashion and not a genre.

2.  The "stop labeling music and enjoy" argument is for people who are either a. ashamed of what they listen to or b. devoid of any music history knowledge.  I like to know what music influenced the music I listen to and finding genres and sub genres to place bands into is much more about learning than it is judging.  Knowledge simply for the sake of knowledge mofos.   

3.  Nobody else has to like the music you do get over it.

4.  There was way too much disgust in the responses about those videos.  You have to understand that they are just going to be twice as whiny now that the jackasses who attacked them gave them more reason to be "emo".  It's like calling a goth kid a freak.  You're just pouring fuel on the fire. 

5.  We've all succumbed to trends.  Hot Topic isn't a horrible store or the evil brains behind some teenage conspiracy they just cater to a younger crowd.  I bought a sweet fuckin' Satyricon shirt there the other day.  Some of the bands they promote have talent and are pretty bad ass but others are strictly cliche.  Welcome to the music industry.

Done.

[White Pwny]

haha I get some of my Deftones stuff from Hot Topic!   

[theis]

hear, hear, oldgent.

[Zevaka]

Ok, i've read every single post in this thread. Because i care. Most of you say: 'people label music they don't like as emo'  and you still think that emo is something bad, ridiculous, etc. No, it's not. At all. Maybe you just never met good emo? Or you're under tv influence?

i said it many times and i feel i must repeat it. Emo culture (pink-black!11 nation) has nothing to do with emo music, they even developed separately. That's why it's always weird when people try to find connection between cloths, haircuts and music these people play. So, emo music doesn't mean just emotional. There are a lot of things in definition of emo music. As you know, emo appeared as sub-genre of old hardcore music (when weezer members maybe didn't know each other). Just emotion isn't enough to call band emo. They also have some special things in music, not only lyrics.
That's why deftones and hundreds of other bands do not belong to emo genre, though they are pretty emotional.   

One more thing. I am FOR detailed classification of music. I'm FOR using sub-genres and sub-sub-genres to describe music. It helps a lot to organize knowledge, opinions on music. I'm against calling all rock music just rock music. It's so wrong.
So, now emo is full, independent genre, which includes a lot of smaller genres (acoustic emo, mall emo, etc), want it or not. And i don't see anything bad in it.   

[Atomic]

What exactly is Emo.. and is it bad?

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i just dont like the whiny vocals that sound alike in alot of those bands like MCR, PATD or FOB

[oldgentlovecraft]

The bloopers were the best especially when that kid blasted himself in the face with that ball.

[theis]

the funniest and most accurate take on being emo (not the fashion shit).

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haha i love this video. hilarious.

[Nebontha]

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[Variable]

emo music was once cool. until it became to be about the clothing and not the music.

good "emo" bands include;

sunny day real estate
american football
christie front drive
mineral

etc.

FUCK the scene shit.

The emo argument is overdone. 

that is actually the only thing that needed to be said in this entire thread

[E-Money]

i personally dont consider thrice or thursday emo??

[ignore the fashion]

with so many genres and sub-genres and such, i think its starting to get a little stupid and out of hand.

to me its all music, if its good music i'll listen to it, if not i won't... simple as that.

mall emo?? wtf is that shit? seriously who made that shit up? thats part of the reason i think all (or most of them) these names are so dumb.

music is music leave it at that.

now i'm off to go play some grand theft auto

[Variable]

i personally dont consider thrice or thursday emo??

ehhhhh I guess I dont really either.  Not thrice anyways.  Thursday just sucks so bad that its hard to listen to them to figure it out.

[Zevaka]

Thrice are definetely emo, let's stop on this

[theis]

Thrice are definetely emo, let's stop on this

not.

post-hardcore/alt-rock would be more like it.

[fireflyry]

One of the worst terms and "genres" ever created.

100% agree.

Most music...well at least GOOD music has an aspect of emotional connection and content hence the term pisses me off to.

"Emos" are just try hard Goths....and they fail.