Deftones need some more upbeat songs?

[Moz]

Bands, artists, people, whatever, in any industry, they always reach a certain high where everything falls into place. It's just perfect. Like Deftones ATF/White Pony era. I bet it took them no effort whatsoever to get the creativity flowing. It was just there, it was just perfect. However, very rarely, one could in fact debate never, does that person, band or whatever stay in this perfect situation for very long, and when its gone, it doesnt come back. Maybe a few exceptions but they're rare indeed. I think we will never get Deftones back as that unique band that had just 10 straight perfect, unique songs on a single record. It's nothing to grieve about, its just the way it goes. Incubus had it, they won't have it again either. Same for Tool. Same for NiN. Same for Radiohead. Think about it people, it's just common sense. Every record from now on will just pale in comparison with ATF/White Pony. Doesn't mean they can't be the best band in the world, for us.

Now that I think about it, it's cool when bands know they've got that perfect situation and they know that next record its going to be gone and they just break up. I have that feeling with ATD-I. They were perfect in the In/Casino/Out / Relationship-era, then just quit. Now they'll always have this great reputation.

[Starz]

I don't think Chino would ever allow for a happy kind of song anyway, that's not what he does. Besides I think they are at their best when they write a song which is emotional and dark, songs about love and romance and the world... I doubt the new Deftones album will be a dark album, they all seem to be very happy right now so depressing tunes won't really be on the agenda, so you might just get a few upbeat songs after all...

I'm just hoping the new Team Sleep album will be dark, depressing electronica with Chino's vocals all over it. Yeah boi..

[Yasiu]

Bands, artists, people, whatever, in any industry, they always reach a certain high where everything falls into place. It's just perfect. Like Deftones ATF/White Pony era. I bet it took them no effort whatsoever to get the creativity flowing. It was just there, it was just perfect. However, very rarely, one could in fact debate never, does that person, band or whatever stay in this perfect situation for very long, and when its gone, it doesnt come back. Maybe a few exceptions but they're rare indeed. I think we will never get Deftones back as that unique band that had just 10 straight perfect, unique songs on a single record. It's nothing to grieve about, its just the way it goes. Incubus had it, they won't have it again either. Same for Tool. Same for NiN. Same for Radiohead. Think about it people, it's just common sense. Every record from now on will just pale in comparison with ATF/White Pony. Doesn't mean they can't be the best band in the world, for us.

Call me a stupid but I think that they can still make an album like ATF/WP or even better. Why? Because it's music...the only thing that limits them is thier mind and thier level of creativity, which at SNW fell. Self-titled was an awesome album, and we can't really compare that much albums cause each one of them is a bit different  - it's like evolution: Adrenaline + ATF = WP, ST + SNW = Eros? (Try comparing Adrenaline to SNW) I dream of something fresh (maybe a concept album? yeah but not about...EARTH or a double disc). Sure it wont be WP or ATF, but it will be different, we won't really know if WP was thier best until they die or disband. And as we read in the interviews - they are working together like in ATF era, and things are going pretty ok - have faith goddamn! ok now you can call me "stupid" ^^.

[theshadeisatool]

^^

Well, I agree

[Caín]

Bands, artists, people, whatever, in any industry, they always reach a certain high where everything falls into place. It's just perfect. Like Deftones ATF/White Pony era. I bet it took them no effort whatsoever to get the creativity flowing. It was just there, it was just perfect. However, very rarely, one could in fact debate never, does that person, band or whatever stay in this perfect situation for very long, and when its gone, it doesnt come back. Maybe a few exceptions but they're rare indeed. I think we will never get Deftones back as that unique band that had just 10 straight perfect, unique songs on a single record. It's nothing to grieve about, its just the way it goes. Incubus had it, they won't have it again either. Same for Tool. Same for NiN. Same for Radiohead. Think about it people, it's just common sense. Every record from now on will just pale in comparison with ATF/White Pony. Doesn't mean they can't be the best band in the world, for us.

Now that I think about it, it's cool when bands know they've got that perfect situation and they know that next record its going to be gone and they just break up. I have that feeling with ATD-I. They were perfect in the In/Casino/Out / Relationship-era, then just quit. Now they'll always have this great reputation.

i feel almost the same, still i think it is possible for them to do something fresh again if they just try hard enough. radiohead did the exact same thing with kid a. i mean, their best era was behind them (the bends/ok computer). they just locked themselves up in a studio and did something different for the sake of being different. and it worked out. it doesnt always work out. but at least try goddammit.

well maybe i simply cannot accept that deftones' prime is over. maybe they should disband. i don't know. i just dont want another record of "more of the same".

[fireflyry]

Cherry Waves is upbeat? Ehhh since when?

Mein is the upbeat song of SNW, the record could've used another one or two.

I guess my definition is a tad off.

By upbeat I meant as in vibe as opposed to actual tempo in which case I guess your right.Cherry Waves reminds me of BQAD which I always considered to be quite "upbeat".

[Deftones-argentina]

Yeah, I'd like more upbeat songs. Come on, who doesn't miss musical moments like Teething & Nosebleed? Or even street carp.
In S/T, They changed their concept of heaviness; it passed to be from elite-like songs to hexagram-like songs. Their new writing style isn't bad, but I do miss that other sort of tunes anyway. I don't know you all.

[Moz]

Bands, artists, people, whatever, in any industry, they always reach a certain high where everything falls into place. It's just perfect. Like Deftones ATF/White Pony era. I bet it took them no effort whatsoever to get the creativity flowing. It was just there, it was just perfect. However, very rarely, one could in fact debate never, does that person, band or whatever stay in this perfect situation for very long, and when its gone, it doesnt come back. Maybe a few exceptions but they're rare indeed. I think we will never get Deftones back as that unique band that had just 10 straight perfect, unique songs on a single record. It's nothing to grieve about, its just the way it goes. Incubus had it, they won't have it again either. Same for Tool. Same for NiN. Same for Radiohead. Think about it people, it's just common sense. Every record from now on will just pale in comparison with ATF/White Pony. Doesn't mean they can't be the best band in the world, for us.

Call me a stupid but I think that they can still make an album like ATF/WP or even better. Why? Because it's music...the only thing that limits them is thier mind and thier level of creativity, which at SNW fell. Self-titled was an awesome album, and we can't really compare that much albums cause each one of them is a bit different  - it's like evolution: Adrenaline + ATF = WP, ST + SNW = Eros? (Try comparing Adrenaline to SNW) I dream of something fresh (maybe a concept album? yeah but not about...EARTH or a double disc). Sure it wont be WP or ATF, but it will be different, we won't really know if WP was thier best until they die or disband. And as we read in the interviews - they are working together like in ATF era, and things are going pretty ok - have faith goddamn! ok now you can call me "stupid" ^^.

Do you have a fetish with people calling you stupid? If so I'd be glad to call you that but I see no other reason to call you stupid. We're just having a discussion. Make love to me, here on the carpet.

[st3v3n_g]

From interview with Stef:

"I'm a huge fan of the demo version of the song Finger of Death. What's the future of this track as well as the other demos that didn't make it on the album?"

"There is no future for it since Chino will never do anything for it."

Dammit that sucks 

[mr.sinister]

i cant imagine how chino would do the vocal melodies for FOD. but he is creative as fuck, so who knows. its a good track, yes, but i didn't really enjoy the live version with vocals.