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Band Bashing Thread

Started by theshadeisatool, Jan 12, 2008, 06:08 PM

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BillyNo.9

notice the inverted commas.  I mean the sort of bands thats come a penny a dozen in the uk. bands like scouting for girls, pigeon detectives, the wombats etc. extremely formulaic music that comes off sounding lazy and boring.   The arctic monkeys are a great example of a REAL indie band.

Sushi-X

^ I didn't have band to bash until you mentioned Arctic Monkeys. For me they suck. And their one of best examples of shitty mastering affecting music these days. Oh, also Oasis/Beady Eye or whatever the Gallagher brothers put out. Horrible.


Rocket Skates '94

BillyNo.9

Yeah I agree Artic monkeys suck now, now that they're living inside NME or something -.-

Caín

dredg just became the most atrocious band ever. nice job, guys.

bright lights, big city

yes because this album is so bad that you instantly forget the greatness of their first couple albums, thus making them MOST ATROCIOUS BAND EVER.
DERP

Quote from: rock_n_frost
Bright Lights !..Why the fuck are you so damn awesome? Cant you be a piece of shit sometimes?

Caín

Quote from: bright lights, big city on Apr 08, 2011, 02:54 PM
yes because this album is so bad that you instantly forget the greatness of their first couple albums, thus making them MOST ATROCIOUS BAND EVER.

just because el cielo was great doesn't mean the current record does not annoy the shit out of me.

lostpilot

they still did not become the most atrocious band ever.
One great album > Bad albums.
mostly based on potential

theis

So, Leitmotif, CWA and Pariah are bad albums? Seriously?

lostpilot

I did not mean that, come on.
I love CWA. I don't love Leitmotif that much, but it's still a very enjoyable album. Even Pariah gave me nice moments.

I was just exemplifying the situation where for me personally, even if a band makes ONE great album, I will have profound love and respect for the band. They can release Rebecca Black cover's as much as they want, I will still respect them as artists.

theis


ben

Wait...people don't like Rebecca Black???

Caín

Quote from: theis on Apr 08, 2011, 04:52 PM
So, Leitmotif, CWA and Pariah are bad albums? Seriously?

yes. all of them suck for various reasons. do you want me to break it down for you?

lostpilot

please do, Cain.
lets discuss, hurt each others beliefs and then we can all hug it out

Caín

Quote from: lostpilot on Apr 10, 2011, 01:31 PM
please do, Cain.
lets discuss, hurt each others beliefs and then we can all hug it out


alright. no hugging, though.


1. leitmotif - missing structure, good hooks and is all over the place. might have been a good record if the band had more focus at the time.
2. cwa - two good songs are not enough to carry a whole album. the rest lacks either vision or hooks. coming off el cielo i'd say it's vision they lack.
3. pariah - is a jumbled mess of a record, dabbling in my chemical romance style drama and bad 80s references. absolutely no flow and cohesion to the record.

theis

i can't take a person, who'd rather listen to rebecca black than dredg, serious.

Caín

Quote from: theis on Apr 10, 2011, 01:46 PM
i can't take a person, who'd rather listen to rebecca black than dredg, serious.

that's alright. I don't dig people who dismiss music based on what's cool to listen to.

Caín

Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 10, 2011, 02:06 PM
I seriously feel like bringing your opinion of Deftones' self-titled record on the table haha, but oh well, we're all different...

Even deftones have acknowledged that s/t & snw were weak records and bad periods creatively in general.

lostpilot

Quote from: Caín on Apr 10, 2011, 01:43 PM
Quote from: lostpilot on Apr 10, 2011, 01:31 PM
please do, Cain.
lets discuss, hurt each others beliefs and then we can all hug it out


alright. no hugging, though.


1. leitmotif - missing structure, good hooks and is all over the place. might have been a good record if the band had more focus at the time.
2. cwa - two good songs are not enough to carry a whole album. the rest lacks either vision or hooks. coming off el cielo i'd say it's vision they lack.
3. pariah - is a jumbled mess of a record, dabbling in my chemical romance style drama and bad 80s references. absolutely no flow and cohesion to the record.

I actually have to agree with your thoughts since they are quite observant. I feel the same way about Leitmotif and Pariah (nicely written about MCR style drama in the songs - so true), but I have to say, that CWA is still quite solid. The production value is very enjoyable; yes, the album is not ground-breaking but is well executed - and I could say more than two songs that I do enjoy quite a lot, so in my eyes CWA still earns a pretty good mark in my scale. El Cielo is wonderful. The new album is.. well, they were trying to be experimental (in a sense that "playing something fans will never expect"), but I just cannot enjoy the "light-heartedness" of the album and lack of essence. This is how the album seems for me.

lostpilot

Quote from: Caín on Apr 10, 2011, 02:20 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 10, 2011, 02:06 PM
I seriously feel like bringing your opinion of Deftones' self-titled record on the table haha, but oh well, we're all different...

Even deftones have acknowledged that s/t & snw were weak records and bad periods creatively in general.

About this - self-titled is their masterpiece. If I had the chance, I would come up to the Deftones guys and  tell them that they should acknowledge how masterful self-titled is.

Caín

Quote from: lostpilot on Apr 10, 2011, 02:25 PM
Quote from: Caín on Apr 10, 2011, 01:43 PM
Quote from: lostpilot on Apr 10, 2011, 01:31 PM
please do, Cain.
lets discuss, hurt each others beliefs and then we can all hug it out


alright. no hugging, though.


1. leitmotif - missing structure, good hooks and is all over the place. might have been a good record if the band had more focus at the time.
2. cwa - two good songs are not enough to carry a whole album. the rest lacks either vision or hooks. coming off el cielo i'd say it's vision they lack.
3. pariah - is a jumbled mess of a record, dabbling in my chemical romance style drama and bad 80s references. absolutely no flow and cohesion to the record.

I actually have to agree with your thoughts since they are quite observant. I feel the same way about Leitmotif and Pariah (nicely written about MCR style drama in the songs - so true), but I have to say, that CWA is still quite solid. The production value is very enjoyable; yes, the album is not ground-breaking but is well executed - and I could say more than two songs that I do enjoy quite a lot, so in my eyes CWA still earns a pretty good mark in my scale. El Cielo is wonderful. The new album is.. well, they were trying to be experimental (in a sense that "playing something fans will never expect"), but I just cannot enjoy the "light-heartedness" of the album and lack of essence. This is how the album seems for me.



actually, I just gave catch with arms a shirt spin and I agree. there are actually more than 2 good songs on it, so I retract my statement. dredg made 2 good records, of which 1 is a masterpiece.
the new record to me is painful to listen to. I seriously cannot get through a single song. I hate the sense of drama, the cheap 80s sounds and the overall lack of depth. also, I really despise the way Gavin sings. His singing got weak on CWA, but on this record, he is downright obnoxious.