Intervention

[Shaye]

*I searched for this really quick but didn't come up with anything so I apologize if there's another thread about this show.

Anyway, I'm addicted to this show (haha addicted get it?) no really I am though. I think it's one of the most interesting shows on TV whether you know someone with an serious addiction or not.

[goldpony]

this is the most depressing show on the face of the earth

[Shaye]

this is the most depressing show on the face of the earth

Depressing, yeah that's true. But interesting as well.

[Atomic]

i'v neva seen it
lucky me

[devilinside]

I like this show alot. Some of the people are really fucked in the head...

[muchojackdaniels]

as sad as the show is, it caught my attention. addiction is crazy! i feel sorry for those people. luckily, some actually make it out okay.

[13hourstoparadise]

It's not reality TV, it's real TV. Real life shit... Sad yes, but as said, always great to see when people work towards doing what's best...

[Shaye]

It's not reality TV, it's real TV. Real life shit... Sad yes, but as said, always great to see when people work towards doing what's best...

True. True.

I think that's why I like this show and even "reality" TV in general (even though most if it is fake) - I just like observing people and learning about the human condition. I probably should have been a psychologist or a philosopher.

[Atomic]

or a detective

[Variable]

It's not reality TV, it's real TV. Real life shit... Sad yes, but as said, always great to see when people work towards doing what's best...

I probably should have been a psychologist or a philosopher.

I wouldn't be able to work with people like that.  I can handle when people come to me having a heart attack or bleeding out their ass, because yeah, thats legit.  But some weakling crying because of a mess they got into all on their own, but are too weak to get out of.  No, I would slap some people.

[13hourstoparadise]

Until you see first hand people like on the show you can't relate... I would agree, not knowning what it's like I would slap them too...

[Variable]

I have seen plenty of addicts.  Probably more than there are episodes of "intervention"  Problem is that people want to hug them and tell them its not their fault.  When it is, and they need to be strong and fix the mess they got into all on their own.  A strange society we live in, strength and accountability for actions are less admirable than weakness and passing the buck.

[Shaye]

A strange society we live in, strength and accountability for actions are less admirable than weakness and passing the buck.

QFT.

Sadly, it seems to be human nature to find an excuse or justification to negative actions, sort of a defense mechanism if you will. People's stories always seem to change with the situation. If someone works hard to overcome obstacles within their life and succeeds they are rewarded with beliefs like "you can do anything if you put your mind to it". As soon as someone's actions result in a negative outcome it's, "I couldn't do something or had to do something because a certain person or institution left me no choice".

This is slightly off topic from drug addiction but...

Perfect example is the Columbine shooting. My take on it is that the two kids were twisted and had no conscience. But the kids themselves blamed it on bullying and the media took it even further by slanting the story to fit their agenda against so called violent video games and music.

Chris rock said it best "What ever happened to 'Crazy' "?: (Skip to about 1 minute, 10 seconds in)

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[Variable]

yeah.  Comedy is great because it shows the error of our ways in an easy to hear way, thus making it funny.  However, its not a good thing if it makes people miss the point. 

I just hate when people say that forms of addiciton are diseases, because they are not.  Fucking HIV is a disease, I can look at it under a fucking microscope.  Show me the gambling bug, and tell me why hand washing didnt help me from contracting it. 
Or
Tell someone they are fucking weak and they should probably go slap their parents for not slapping them more as kids.  Either way, we are all accountable for our actions.  Next people will try to spinn of Rape as a disease.  "god it wasn't my fault.  I must have caught the rape bug off the toilet seat at subway!" 
Fucking losers.

[Shaye]

yeah.  Comedy is great because it shows the error of our ways in an easy to hear way, thus making it funny.  However, its not a good thing if it makes people miss the point. 

I wasn't sure if you were saying that I missed the point, but if so I didn't. I just wanted to elaborate more because my thoughts tend to wander from one thing to another.  Maybe I should stop drinking coffee... 

If that's not what you meant, then forget I said anything.   

[Variable]

yeah.  Comedy is great because it shows the error of our ways in an easy to hear way, thus making it funny.  However, its not a good thing if it makes people miss the point. 

I wasn't sure if you were saying that I missed the point, but if so I didn't. I just wanted to elaborate more because my thoughts tend to wander from one thing to another.  Maybe I should stop drinking coffee... 

If that's not what you meant, then forget I said anything.  

no its not what I meant.  You seem like a smart girl.  I just think most americans hear the message, then laugh off the guilt and dont give it a second thought.

and dear, you should never, ever stop drinking coffee.

[13hourstoparadise]

Fuck coffee, smoke crack.

[Atomic]

i fucked coffee, the burns still havnt healed

[13hourstoparadise]

i fucked coffee, the burns still havnt healed

[devilinside]

yeah.  Comedy is great because it shows the error of our ways in an easy to hear way, thus making it funny.  However, its not a good thing if it makes people miss the point. 

I just hate when people say that forms of addiciton are diseases, because they are not.  Fucking HIV is a disease, I can look at it under a fucking microscope.  Show me the gambling bug, and tell me why hand washing didnt help me from contracting it. 
Or
Tell someone they are fucking weak and they should probably go slap their parents for not slapping them more as kids.  Either way, we are all accountable for our actions.  Next people will try to spinn of Rape as a disease.  "god it wasn't my fault.  I must have caught the rape bug off the toilet seat at subway!" 
Fucking losers.

Disease can be a term to describe more than one thing Trey. to me,if something is controlling your body,life,makes you sick when and when not sued,its a disease. I get what you're saying,but  I think alcoholism and drug addiction is a disease.

"A disease is an abnormal condition of an organism that impairs bodily functions all over.[citation needed] In human beings, "disease" is often used more broadly to refer to any condition that causes discomfort, dysfunction, distress, social problems, and/or death to the person afflicted, or similar problems for those in contact with the person. In this broader sense, it sometimes includes injuries, disabilities, disorders, syndromes, infections, isolated symptoms, deviant behaviors, and atypical variations of structure and function, while in other contexts and for other purposes these may be considered distinguishable categories.[citation needed]

While many diseases are biological processes with observable alterations of organ function or structure, others primarily involve alterations of behavior.

Classifying a condition as a disease is a social act of valuation, and may change the social status of the person with the condition (the patient). Some conditions (known as culture-bound syndromes) are only recognized as diseases within a particular culture. Sometimes the categorization of a condition as a disease is controversial within the culture."