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Diamond Eyes - Thoughts + reviews

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E-Money

Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 16, 2010, 06:02 PM
Quote from: gui on Mar 16, 2010, 06:00 PM
wow you just don't get it. if you think the song is boring, should have been longer, and it sucks, i wont care. I can disagree but i wont really care. If someone says people that like this song are wanabees, aren't real fans or something like that than i might treat them like shit because they judge people for liking it.


Might be only you, then. Because 90% of the people who like this song are real pussies when they see a negative opinion about it.

I completely understand why a lot of you guys dont really dig the song.  It definitely is a new deftones sound.  I'd like to see them be more mellow and more melodic.  I know a lot of u guys want that old aggressive sound.  I think the album will have a good mix of heavy/melodic sounds on it.  I hope u guys can eventually enjoy Diamond Eyes as much as I am.  I think the song is great.  

Vesanic

Quote from: MxKnife on Mar 16, 2010, 06:56 PM
Not you vesanic

That was directed at minus

I don't like your reaction.

There's nothing wrong with liking a band with a certain producer more.

Terry Date is and will always be the perfect producer for the Deftones. Shaun Lopez and Bob Ezrin proved it and Nick Raskulinecz will prove it.

Vesanic

Quote from: stapezee on Mar 16, 2010, 07:00 PM
I completely understand why a lot of you guys dont really dig the song.  It definitely is a new deftones sound.  I'd like to see them be more mellow and more melodic.  I know a lot of u guys want that old aggressive sound.  I think the album will have a good mix of heavy/melodic sounds on it.  I hope u guys can eventually enjoy Diamond Eyes as much as I am.  I think the song is great.  



For the last fucking time, directed to all of you guys saying that stupidity...


I DON'T WANT THE OLD SOUND BACK BECAUSE I LIVE IN THE PAST NOR BECAUSE I'M NOSTALGIC OR ANYTHING. I WANT SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS DEFTONISH, WHICH DIAMOND EYES CHORUS (AND CHORUS ONLY) DOES NOT AT ALL.


God damn it, how many times will I have to say that ?!

m1nusblindfoLd

#1303
Quote from: lahemi on Mar 16, 2010, 06:53 PM
Nah, m1nusblindfoLd i'll guess.
And even if I could understand m1nusblindfoLd's complaints, i'll go with MxKnife. These albums will always be there, i'm ready to hear something completely new.
Quote from: MxKnife on Mar 16, 2010, 06:51 PM
Dude with the "classic deftones sound vagina" shut the fuck up. If you don't like ther new stuff just stick the first four albums. Quit bitchin cuz they move on and your obviously are stuck in the past.

That was mean, fyihyd



EDIT:

Vesanic, not to speak for you too, but I think these people care (cry) a little too much about our opinions...

gui

Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 16, 2010, 07:03 PM
Quote from: stapezee on Mar 16, 2010, 07:00 PM
I completely understand why a lot of you guys dont really dig the song.  It definitely is a new deftones sound.  I'd like to see them be more mellow and more melodic.  I know a lot of u guys want that old aggressive sound.  I think the album will have a good mix of heavy/melodic sounds on it.  I hope u guys can eventually enjoy Diamond Eyes as much as I am.  I think the song is great.  



For the last fucking time, directed to all of you guys saying that stupidity...


I DON'T WANT THE OLD SOUND BACK BECAUSE I LIVE IN THE PAST NOR BECAUSE I'M NOSTALGIC OR ANYTHING. I WANT SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS DEFTONISH, WHICH DIAMOND EYES CHORUS (AND CHORUS ONLY) DOES NOT AT ALL.


God damn it, how many times will I have to say that ?!

et si je dis que le refrain sonne définitivement comme du deftones,  vas-tu encore te fâcher :P

m1nusblindfoLd

Quote from: gui on Mar 16, 2010, 07:05 PM
et si je dis que le refrain sonne définitivement comme du deftones,  vas-tu encore te fâcher :P

It doesn't really though..

Sushi-X

Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 16, 2010, 07:01 PM
Quote from: MxKnife on Mar 16, 2010, 06:56 PM
Not you vesanic

That was directed at minus

I don't like your reaction.

There's nothing wrong with liking a band with a certain producer more.

Terry Date is and will always be the perfect producer for the Deftones. Shaun Lopez and Bob Ezrin proved it and Nick Raskulinecz will prove it.


I'm not trying to sound like a complete dick. Its just like they can't keep doing the same otherwise i don't think most of us would them hold in such a high regard. And yes Terry did give them that defining sound.

Anyways i'll admit i did sound like an asshole towards minus and my bad for that.


Rocket Skates '94

Vesanic

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Quote from: m1nusblindfoLd on Mar 16, 2010, 07:05 PM
EDIT:

Vesanic, I think these people care (cry) a little too much about our opinions...


It's worse than that. They want to make me look like a stupid fan who can't go on with my favorite band's evolution, which is totally wrong, 'cause if I couldn't, I would have stopped listening to them after hearing White Pony for the first time.

Let's make this fucking clear:

White Pony was huge change compared to Around The Fur, but I loved it, why ? Because it still had something Deftonish in it, something that made me think " It's them, it's fucking them ".

Diamond Eyes chorus is a huge change compared to whatever they did before, and I don't like it. Why ? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE DEFTONES AT FUCKING ALL.

And to prove that my opinion is not about the whole song, I totally think that the verses, the break and the end totally sounds like Deftones. Still new to me, but it tastes like fucking Deftones.

m1nusblindfoLd

Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 16, 2010, 07:09 PM
Quote from: m1nusblindfoLd on Mar 16, 2010, 07:05 PM
EDIT:

Vesanic, I think these people care (cry) a little too much about our opinions...


It's worse than that. They want to make me look like a stupid fan who can't go on with my favorite band's evolution, which is totally wrong, 'cause if I were, I would have stopped listening to them after hearing White Pony for the first time.

Let's make this fucking clear:

White Pony was huge change compared to Around The Fur, but I loved it, why ? Because it still had something Deftonish in it, something that made me think " It's them, it's fucking them ".

Diamond Eyes chorus is a huge change compared to whatever they did before, and I don't like it. Why ? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE DEFTONES AT FUCKING ALL.

And to prove that my opinion is not about the whole song, I totally think that the verses, the break and the end sounds totally sounds like Deftones. Still new to me, but it tastes like fucking Deftones.

Precisely.

gui

Quote from: m1nusblindfoLd on Mar 16, 2010, 07:07 PM
Quote from: gui on Mar 16, 2010, 07:05 PM
et si je dis que le refrain sonne définitivement comme du deftones,  vas-tu encore te fâcher :P

It doesn't really though..
it does

how long do you want to continue like that ? hahaha

I wonder how many people flipped out telling it wasnt deftones-ish when they first heard mascara, teenager, rxqueen...etc

Personnally i think the less deftone-ish chorus from deftones ever is passenger.

Vesanic

Quote from: gui on Mar 16, 2010, 07:05 PM
et si je dis que le refrain sonne définitivement comme du deftones,  vas-tu encore te fâcher :P


Je me fâche parce qu'on n'est pas foutu d'écouter ce que je dis. Je ne me fâcherai pas si tu penses ça, en revanche, je ne me gênerai pas pour te dire que je suis complètement en désaccord. Et si tu t'en fous, tant mieux, moi aussi, mais je reste sur ce que je dis. Ce refrain ne sonne pas du tout comme du deftones. Alors que le reste de la chanson, si.

gui

Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 16, 2010, 07:11 PM
Quote from: gui on Mar 16, 2010, 07:05 PM
et si je dis que le refrain sonne définitivement comme du deftones,  vas-tu encore te fâcher :P


Je me fâche parce qu'on n'est pas foutu d'écouter ce que je dis. Je ne me fâcherai pas si tu penses ça, en revanche, je ne me gênerai pas pour te dire que je suis complètement en désaccord. Et si tu t'en fous, tant mieux, moi aussi, mais je reste sur ce que je dis. Ce refrain ne sonne pas du tout comme du deftones. Alors que le reste de la chanson, si.

c'est correct, je pense pas que aucun de nous deux va changer d'idée haha.

Vesanic

Quote from: gui on Mar 16, 2010, 07:14 PM
c'est correct, je pense pas que aucun de nous deux va changer d'idée haha.


Du moment que ça ne nous empêche pas de savourer une bonne bière si on se voit à un concert, j'ai aucun problème à propos de ça.

gui

Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 16, 2010, 07:16 PM
Quote from: gui on Mar 16, 2010, 07:14 PM
c'est correct, je pense pas que aucun de nous deux va changer d'idée haha.


Du moment que ça ne nous empêche pas de savourer une bonne bière si on se voit à un concert, j'ai aucun problème à propos de ça.
seulement si tu es québécois, si tu es français on aurait pas beaucoup de chance.

Vesanic

Quote from: gui on Mar 16, 2010, 07:17 PM
seulement si tu es québécois, si tu es français on aurait pas beaucoup de chance.


Tabernacle. :p

Balthazard

calmez vouz les mecs , sa reste que de la musique  :P  et puis tant que c`est un nouvel album de Deftones on devrait tous etre heureux :P

m1nusblindfoLd

#1316
I don't think you few guys really get what we are complaining about the most (or at least me). It's not even the song structure, or the vocals, or the style, or anything at all like that...it's literally the guitar sound.

Do you put on any of the songs before SNW came out and not fucking hear that timeless, obvious Deftones guitar sound? Whether it be a totally different type of guitar, or different play-style, whatever (I'm not sure since I don't know shit about guitar techs), it totally changed after albums 1-4, totally. That's all I really mean.

Just listen to the opening rift to Hexagram for an example. But then again, you can turn on any Deftones song from S/T and back and hear that guitar in any single song.

I'm not hating on this song though, to be clear.

Vesanic

Quote from: Balthazard on Mar 16, 2010, 07:27 PM
calmez vouz les mecs , sa reste que de la musique  :P  et puis tant que c`est un nouvel album de Deftones on devrait tous etre heureux :P



Shit I didn't know that there were that many people speaking french, here.


Anyway, stick to the english, please. Mods don't like that we make " private " conversations by speaking another language, and it's better for the community anyway.

m1nusblindfoLd

#1318
Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 16, 2010, 07:33 PM
Quote from: Balthazard on Mar 16, 2010, 07:27 PM
calmez vouz les mecs , sa reste que de la musique  :P  et puis tant que c`est un nouvel album de Deftones on devrait tous etre heureux :P

Shit I didn't know that there were that many people speaking french, here.


Anyway, stick to the english, please. Mods don't like that we make " private " conversations by speaking another language, and it's better for the community anyway.

Nothing that a quick Google Translate can't help :)

E-Money

Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 16, 2010, 07:03 PM
Quote from: stapezee on Mar 16, 2010, 07:00 PM
I completely understand why a lot of you guys dont really dig the song.  It definitely is a new deftones sound.  I'd like to see them be more mellow and more melodic.  I know a lot of u guys want that old aggressive sound.  I think the album will have a good mix of heavy/melodic sounds on it.  I hope u guys can eventually enjoy Diamond Eyes as much as I am.  I think the song is great. 



For the last fucking time, directed to all of you guys saying that stupidity...


I DON'T WANT THE OLD SOUND BACK BECAUSE I LIVE IN THE PAST NOR BECAUSE I'M NOSTALGIC OR ANYTHING. I WANT SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS DEFTONISH, WHICH DIAMOND EYES CHORUS (AND CHORUS ONLY) DOES NOT AT ALL.


God damn it, how many times will I have to say that ?!

Vesanic, thats you opinion dude.  I personally think that this song is a great display of the deftones sound.  Its heavy, melodic, experimental, lush.  Im very happy about it.  Im sorry u dont like it man.  But I think the rest of the album will be fairly similar to this song.  Maybe this album wont be your favorite, thats fine.  I understand the guitars sound different, but I think its time for a change.  I don't get how the chorus doesn't sound like deftones??  It does to me....