Diamond Eyes - Thoughts + reviews

[Hidalgo]

i'm really proud of them, i honestly thought they'd never get out from underneath that black cloud. 03-08. don't get me wrong, they were still writing good stuff, but something wasn't right and i knew they could do better. it was like they were just going through the motions, and thought of it as their job, not their passion. still made real solid stuff, but ehhh. i been a huge fan since late 95, and i knew something was off. now they're back it seems, snapped out of that slumber, the sleeping giant has finally awoke

[jesusinabowlofdirt]

c'mon man, s/t got some of their best stuff on it.of course u dont like dark heavy shit like s/t when your more into songs poppy songs like hoburg hop,linus, freaks and gift etc that doesnt make s/t a bad or lack of passion, you just have goofy taste thats all

besides that, diamond eyes is great, def top 3

[Vesanic]

It's not a coincidence if that album is called " Deftones " if you know what I mean. S/T is definitely one of the most intense albums that exist and 2003 was the witness of some of their best concerts ever, on the mood point. It was dark as hell, but yet so delicious. It's probably the reason actually.

[Subliminal]

i'm really proud of them, i honestly thought they'd never get out from underneath that black cloud. 03-08. don't get me wrong, they were still writing good stuff, but something wasn't right and i knew they could do better. it was like they were just going through the motions, and thought of it as their job, not their passion. still made real solid stuff, but ehhh. i been a huge fan since late 95, and i knew something was off. now they're back it seems, snapped out of that slumber, the sleeping giant has finally awoke

I agree, S/T and SNW times were definitely dark. They were slowly coming out of it with SNW. But I think it's down to their attitude and outlook on the band. Like you said, it became their job, simply because their label sucks ass. But now they're going full pelt, despite this and all of the issues they once had, are gone. It's all about the experience and the art. How it was before the aftermath of White Ponys huge success kicked in.

[Subliminal]

Funny thing is, those 'high notes' in Digital Bath, are his falsetto, just like the one in Cherry Waves where he goes 'Suuuuuuck' and the same with 976 'So I geeeeeeeeeeeeeeet'

So really, it's the same thing, just a bit lower. He can still do the Digital Bath highs man, anyone who knows how to sing in falsetto pretty much can. It's so much easier than belting highs.

yeah dude but when he yells ''geeet'' he actually doesnt use his real voice, i guess its a fake high note that even you can do..its similar to a man imitating a girl voice..

try this you ll see what i mean :

but its not a even real high voice on 976 ( 1:00 to 02 and 1:18 to 20 )..i dont hear any squeal on his voice..its kinda he's faking us
check digital bath  (2:18)..That's the high note no one can reach that so easly..he did it at cherry waves too..
you know what i mean ?

Yeah, the falsetto.. a lot of people use it when they can not full pelt a note anymore. I guess that's what happens when you've been recording/playing shows for 20 odd years.

Funny thing is, those 'high notes' in Digital Bath, are his falsetto

Listen again.

http://www.goear.com/listen/2f1a39a/Chino%5Cs-high-notes-and-falsetto-Chino-Moreno


If you think these are the same vocal things, you're definitely tone deaf.

They're the same, Chino is NOT belting that note in Digital Bath.

[Hidalgo]

c'mon man, s/t got some of their best stuff on it.of course u dont like dark heavy shit like s/t when your more into songs poppy songs like hoburg hop,linus, freaks and gift etc that doesnt make s/t a bad or lack of passion, you just have goofy taste thats all

besides that, diamond eyes is great, def top 3

i like s/t though, remember. just least of deftones stuff. but i'm not a casual deftones fan, i'm a crazed diehard so i really like everything they've done. i'm bias, i like all their shit. pcp idiot version sucks, but just cause that IP schmuck ruined it

[Vesanic]

They're the same, Chino is NOT belting that note in Digital Bath.

Yep, you're tone deaf. Sorry. 

[Subliminal]

Deftones - Digital Bath @ NBC

Deftones - Digital Bath (live)

I don't see him belting.. I see him using his falsetto Cause once you hit that high note, you can push it and it's almost like making a high pitched wail of a cat.

I don't know if you sing, but I have the same range as Chino/Matt Bellamy (Muse) and belting that high note in Digital Bath just takes it out of you..

Oh no wait, I'm tone deaf. 

[Jacob]

I don't hear that much of a difference. his voice is a bit more rough in Digital Bath. probably has more to do with effects than anything else.

[Vesanic]

I sing, and I can easily make high notes, it doesn't take it out of me. These are true high notes.

Surprising that you can't make the difference between the notes in Digital Bath and 976-EVIL, since you're a singer.

[Subliminal]

I sing, and I can easily make high notes, it doesn't take it out of me. I agree that Chino's been using his falsetto a lot during live performances, but on the record, these are true high notes.

Surprising that you can't make the difference between the notes in Digital Bath and 976-EVIL, since you're a singer.

I can and that's what I'm trying to tell you lol because as soon as he says ''Feel Like'' I can hear the switch in his voice as he's about to push out 'More' and I hear/feel the same thing when I sing it myself. But you're the Master vocalist, so ok.. he's belting the note

[Vesanic]

But you're the Master vocalist, so ok.. he's belting the note

Who said that ? I didn't and never pretended to be. I couldn't, anyway.


There's an obvious difference between DB notes and 976 notes. The pitch is the same, the vocal trick is not.

DB notes = Bored notes, Root notes, etc.

[Subliminal]

But you're the Master vocalist, so ok.. he's belting the note

Who said that ? I didn't and never pretended to be. I couldn't, anyway.


There's an obvious difference between DB notes and 976 notes. The pitch is the same, the vocal trick is not.

Sounds the same to me, just a different effect over his voice than the one on Digital Bath. It's a lot more echoey and distant.

Like you said, I'm tone deaf, so it doesn't matter.

[Vesanic]

Like you said, I'm tone deaf, so it doesn't matter.

Can't take a kind tease, can you ?

[Subliminal]

Like you said, I'm tone deaf, so it doesn't matter.

Can't take a kind tease, can you ?

I just did? We could argue about it all day, but it really doesn't matter. The only thing that spurred me into the arguement is because people always bang on about Chino's vocals being weaker. Yet his range has hardly changed, the only thing that ever affected it was his weight at the time. Since he was clearly unhealthy after getting off the coke. Which he admitted himself in his interview with Kerrang ages back.

If either of us get to meet him from this point on.. maybe we should just be trivial and ask him if it's a belter or a falsetto note, just for clarification

[Sett]

I am surprised that so many people dislike the ST. I can not think for a bad song in it. As to the new album, I am becoming addicted to it.

[Vesanic]

If either of us get to meet him from this point on.. maybe we should just be trivial and ask him if it's a belter or a falsetto note, just for clarification

Don't know if this was serious or not, but seriously, if I meet him somewhen, I'll definitely ask him some stuff about his voice and vocal skills.

Got to know another thing, during the oldschool days, and especially Like Linus era, Chino was definitely using his head voice way more.

And Chino's voice IS weaker. His high notes tend to track, he can't scream for long anymore, he's forcing a LOT to pull off a not-so-hard high notes that he could easily pulled off back then.

[rock_n_frost]

There's an obvious difference between DB notes and 976 notes. The pitch is the same, the vocal trick is not.
DB notes = Bored notes, Root notes, etc.

true that, he did it at ''bored'' and root's end, too..
There's obvious difference between ''feel like'' and ''so i get''
pitch is the same but vocal trick is not

btw you guys are smart, its a musical arguement..do it till the end of the end
i really wanna to see your opinions..

ves can you record your voice for this two parts ?
first try to sing the real high note for ''feel like more'' and then try the belter note

[Subliminal]

^ I'll be up for that Rock_N_Frost

If either of us get to meet him from this point on.. maybe we should just be trivial and ask him if it's a belter or a falsetto note, just for clarification

Don't know if this was serious or not, but seriously, if I meet him somewhen, I'll definitely ask him some stuff about his voice and vocal skills.

Got to know another thing, during the oldschool days, and especially Like Linus era, Chino was definitely using his head voice way more.

And Chino's voice IS weaker. His high notes tend to track, he can't scream for long anymore, he's forcing a LOT to pull off a not-so-hard high notes that he could easily pulled off back then.

Doesn't sound like it on this album, he sounds like he does on White Pony. But yes, Birthmark is a prime example of his head voice.. when he was practically a kid.

But yes I was being serious.

[Vesanic]

ves can you record your voice for this two parts ?
first try to sing the real high note for ''feel like more'' and then try the belter note

One day...