Buffalo Finger of Death is my favorite b- side I hope it's on Eros or we can some day hear the finished track with Chino.

Lovers has got to be the best Deftones b-side. It's absolutely criminal that it didn't end up on the album. In a weird way, the inclusion of just that song I think would bump S/T up a few notches in my favorite Deftones albums.

Quote from: ConcealingFate92 on Aug 19, 2020, 10:11 PM
S/T is also my fav album, undisputed. Funny thing is that I used to love S/T thanks to songs like Hexagram, WGTB and Bloody Cape, but while i still fucking adore them, it's tracks like Minerva, Battle-Axe, Deathblow and, yes, Anniversary Of... that makes me come back to hear it every day. Then we have WP and ATF, that I also play it religiously almost every day. The other LP I enjoy it once in a while,

for me, Battle-Axe and Deathblow are super close to be amazing songs, but the lack of payoff on both song just ruins them for me. It seems like they are going no where. By payoff I'm thinking like the end of Change.

I know this is not a popular opinion.

And again, in my humble opinion, Lovers is a much stronger song than most of S/T.

I want to hear XO.

Quote from: buflen on Aug 19, 2020, 10:15 PM

Quote from: ConcealingFate92 on Aug 19, 2020, 10:11 PM
S/T is also my fav album, undisputed. Funny thing is that I used to love S/T thanks to songs like Hexagram, WGTB and Bloody Cape, but while i still fucking adore them, it's tracks like Minerva, Battle-Axe, Deathblow and, yes, Anniversary Of... that makes me come back to hear it every day. Then we have WP and ATF, that I also play it religiously almost every day. The other LP I enjoy it once in a while,

for me, Battle-Axe and Deathblow are super close to be amazing songs, but the lack of payoff on both song just ruins them for me. It seems like they are going no where. By payoff I'm thinking like the end of Change.

I know this is not a popular opinion.

I don't entirely disagree. Good moments on both tracks (the pounding intro riff for Battle Axe is great, Frank's synth work on Deathblow as well), but I typically skip them when listening to S/T.

Remember CD release parties at record stores... hell, remember record stores? I can still remember the feeling walking into my local record store to pick up my pre-ordered copy of Self Titled and they were playing When Girls Telephone Boys at full volume. The hairs on my neck were standing up!

Battle Axe is absolutely amazing!

Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 19, 2020, 10:16 PM...

Ahh shame

Still praying for it on a 2nd B Sides and Rarities. Diamonds in the rough album or something

Oh shit they did??! That's awesome.

Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 19, 2020, 10:20 PM...

Quote from: buflen on Aug 19, 2020, 10:15 PM

Quote from: ConcealingFate92 on Aug 19, 2020, 10:11 PM
S/T is also my fav album, undisputed. Funny thing is that I used to love S/T thanks to songs like Hexagram, WGTB and Bloody Cape, but while i still fucking adore them, it's tracks like Minerva, Battle-Axe, Deathblow and, yes, Anniversary Of... that makes me come back to hear it every day. Then we have WP and ATF, that I also play it religiously almost every day. The other LP I enjoy it once in a while,

for me, Battle-Axe and Deathblow are super close to be amazing songs, but the lack of payoff on both song just ruins them for me. It seems like they are going no where. By payoff I'm thinking like the end of Change.

I know this is not a popular opinion.

Battle Axe and Deathblow are better without those sort of 'pay-offs'. It would spoil the tone of the songs otherwise. Depressing, moody tracks that aren't resolved in an obvious way, and leave that tension hanging. It's artistically the best thing to do, although I understand why it puts some people off.

And don't ban me, but Hexagram, I feel everything musically in this song is amazing and the verses vocals are great, but goddamnit, whatever chino is doing on the chorus is dumb.

Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 19, 2020, 10:27 PM...

Wasn't Lovers internally called Kevin Sorbo?

I remember the Brian Dennehy thing! I thought Lovers was an awesome name.

and yes, at first S/T was not my favorite but of course that changed.

Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 19, 2020, 10:27 PM...

I remember they uploaded Lovers onto their Myspace as "Kevin Sorbo".

Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 19, 2020, 10:32 PM...

Was beginning to think no one had noticed.

Ha! I figured one of the mods did 

Quote from: LG95 on Aug 19, 2020, 10:36 PM

Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 19, 2020, 10:32 PM...

Was beginning to think no one had noticed.

We should rename it to "The album title of which we know but shall not speak of"... now with added dots

On S/T: it's a "trance" album to me. Songs like Battle-Axe are all about the hypnotic texture, as opposed to the structure (although I don't think the structure on any of the songs are outright bad). It's kind of an album to get lost in.

^

Yep