Dude, you guys serious? Diamond Eyes is a 5/5 album for me. Loved it from beginning to end. Just about everyone I know loved the heck out of it. Gore on the other hand ughh....I just shake my head when I put it on (I mainly have a problem with the production).

Quote from: B0RNtoR0CK on Sep 20, 2017, 08:39 PM
Dude, you guys serious? Diamond Eyes is a 5/5 album for me. Loved it from beginning to end. Just about everyone I know loved the heck out of it. Gore on the other hand ughh....I just shake my head when I put it on (I mainly have a problem with the production).

If you can, listen to the vinyl version. It makes you forget at least for a while about the horrible production...
this or is just my imagination.

The Vocals to Phantom Bride and Rubicon are my favorite from the Sergio Era. Really wish Abe's drum volume was louder and just more intense on Gore. I feel like Abe brings a great performance to the record but is so low in the mix.. or maybe it's the guitars being too loud.. idk.

It's both.

Quote from: B0RNtoR0CK on Sep 20, 2017, 08:39 PM
Dude, you guys serious? Diamond Eyes is a 5/5 album for me. Loved it from beginning to end. Just about everyone I know loved the heck out of it. Gore on the other hand ughh....I just shake my head when I put it on (I mainly have a problem with the production).

The production on Gore is awful, yes, but I try to look past that to the songs themselves. Diamond Eyes, to me, was the worst Deftones album to date. It's the only one I rarely ever listen to, unless my 3 year old asks me to put it on. And he really just likes the owl.

It just doesn't grab me. The songs are kind of boring, especially YSTB. It's good, I don't hate it or anything, but just doesn't stack up with the rest for me. KNY was a BIG step up, and I think Gore was even better than that.

This is a great album.

my ears bleed every time a song pops up on shuffle, production is a cruel joke

Kind of agree with both of the last two comments. I put it on today for the first time in a while and I'm still well into the musical direction but fuck me does the production let it down.

Quote from: Penicks on Jan 26, 2018, 03:13 PM
my ears bleed every time a song pops up on shuffle, production is a cruel joke

totally agree, I hate the sound and mixing of the album.... ATF sounds a million times better

Quote from: mono on Jan 29, 2018, 05:53 PM

Quote from: Penicks on Jan 26, 2018, 03:13 PM
my ears bleed every time a song pops up on shuffle, production is a cruel joke

totally agree, I hate the sound and mixing of the album.... ATF sounds a million times better

To be fair, ATF is straight up one of their best albums if not THE best

Quote from: BewareTheWater on Feb 09, 2018, 02:16 AM

Quote from: mono on Jan 29, 2018, 05:53 PM

Quote from: Penicks on Jan 26, 2018, 03:13 PM
my ears bleed every time a song pops up on shuffle, production is a cruel joke

totally agree, I hate the sound and mixing of the album.... ATF sounds a million times better

To be fair, ATF is straight up one of their best albums if not THE best

at least for me, it's the one!

DAAAMN $on that'$ tha ONE

I wonder if we will ever hear "Crest". I remember reading about a track titled that, which they kept off the album because it "disrupted" the flow. Still very interested to hear this track that was supposed to open the album.

Whenever I come onto this forum I re-ask myself if I'm partially deaf because I never understand the issues about production that people have. Not even just Gore, but people's complaints about how the drums or mixed or whatever else. It's such a strange thing, I feel like I'm missing an important part of my ears. But on the plus side, it means that nothing detracts from my enjoyment of the music itself.

Quote from: theis on Jan 26, 2018, 10:24 AM
This is a great album.

I honestly loved it the moment I first heard it. I still don't get what the big deal is. Aside from " HUH DUUURRR MUH PRODUCTION " I have yet to hear any other legitimate criticisms of it.

I love Prayers/Triangles, but none of the other songs have really clicked so far.

tfw this album is now almost two years old

time freakin flies

Quote from: whitefur on Apr 27, 2016, 03:04 PM
If you really want to get pissed: play the Gore album and then throw in Needles and Pins (amazing mix and wall of sound).

Ears bleeding with the Gorezzzzz, ugh.

Did you really just respond to your own two year old post?

Quote from: M36 on Mar 29, 2018, 06:56 PM

Quote from: whitefur on Mar 28, 2018, 09:03 PM

Quote from: whitefur on Apr 27, 2016, 03:04 PM
If you really want to get pissed: play the Gore album and then throw in Needles and Pins (amazing mix and wall of sound).

Ears bleeding with the Gorezzzzz, ugh.

Do albums really grown on you, or do you know that you like them or not on the first listen? Lots of people say some albums or songs are "growers." But the album's production had a negative impact the sound sucked beyond words ...

I have had it go both ways. Kendrick Lamar's latest album, for instance, I gave away the day after the first listen. Didn't care for it at all. But like SNW was a grower for me and it is awesome. I really like the songs on Gore and IMO they are constructed a lot more intricately than the last two albums (DE was very simplistic I feel) but the tinniness and harshness of the production absolutely kills it for me and I don't care to listen anymore. If Gore was produced by Terry Date, I feel like it would have been their best album since S/T.