Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Mar 06, 2016, 06:33 AM
Kind of reminds me of Melanie from the eros days but with Chino going weirder with it.

Now i'm so excited to hear it.. Melanie sounds sick as fuck

They didn't play Tempest or Root apparently

https://youtu.be/dyn_wnbZfZA

Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Mar 06, 2016, 06:39 AM
Try this one
https://mega.nz/#!EgYxTBiD!Lc3Wqun6OvNiy_NvsSJbXNp6JPDZkuJcDmSI86-Fa64

Thanks a lot! Sounds awesome, I love the guitar during the chorus especially, very sludgy and dark, and I'll be interested in hearing how the vocals sound on the song on the album. Definitely a heavier, more raw-sounding vibe, hopefully the vocals won't sound too polished. Probably a song Stephen got his own way on, surely.

The guitar during the verse has a Faith No More Jim Martin era sound to it.

Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Mar 06, 2016, 06:39 AM
Try this one
https://mega.nz/#!EgYxTBiD!Lc3Wqun6OvNiy_NvsSJbXNp6JPDZkuJcDmSI86-Fa64

your the man

very very underwhelming...

Doomed User sounds pretty rad. Hope it isn't too cleanly produced on the record.

Performance of Prayers/Triangles is a touch disappointing though. Chino doesn't even sing the end of the last chorus, leaving poor Sergio on his own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhEazx6Ptpk

Quote from: LG95 on Mar 06, 2016, 09:00 AM
Performance of Prayers/Triangles is a touch disappointing though. Chino doesn't even sing the end of the last chorus, leaving poor Sergio on his own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhEazx6Ptpk

He seemed a bit all over the place at times, though the verses sound great, and some great screams. Might be wrong but seems like he forgot the lyrics a bit. Overall I liked it, good performance, but I'm sure it'll be a stronger performance next time.

Finally they're doing something really different. Waiting for a proper release to judge it.

I like the style of Doomed User but I need to hear the studio version. Wish they'd release it soon.

Seems like P/T is another song Chino can't pull off live then. Hopefully it gets better and he stops missing choruses. But he did leave Sergio to sing the high notes in Swerve and Sextape choruses so this is probably how it works. It was definitely underwhelming though sadly.

Thanks for posting the first link to Doomed User. I think with this recording you can hear the guitars more clearly (it's shortened):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jr_1367P1U

Credit to Jose Flores.

Quote from: MrVesanique on Mar 06, 2016, 01:23 PM
I really wish Chino would take some proper vocal coaching. He sounds terrible on P/T, all the highs sound off key, even the low verses are performed poorly. You just don't get to take a few months off and then sound so bad on your new shit premiere, kinda lame if you ask me. Pretty happy with this setlist though.

I have no idea why he doesn't. There's nothing wrong with having vocal coaching, loads of pros do, and at his age I think it's especially important. He surely can't be satisfied with sounding that off key every time he has to 'attack' a vaguely difficult line.

Quote from: MrVesanique on Mar 06, 2016, 01:23 PM
I really wish Chino would take some proper vocal coaching.

Agreed. Didn't he used to? He's a great vocalist, I think he just needs to take better care of his voice. Either way, even the best vocalists can improve with professional help, it's not like it means he can't sing, it just makes it easier for him to consistently do the music justice and not be as hit-and-miss as he tends to be.

Agree with the vocals on Doomed User being quite off, you can't really tell what it's supposed to be, how it's supposed to be performed. Guess it'll be a surprise when we get the album, haha. I don't think it was a bad performance, and I love the song, it's gotten me very excited. Such a different vibe from Prayers/Triangles. I did enjoy Prayers/Triangles, mostly the verses. Hopefully more practicing and more performing of these songs will make them better, but either way, I'm not disappointed thus far.

Quote from: MrVesanique on Mar 06, 2016, 01:50 PM
I think he used to. If you watch some footage of the later leg of the S/T tour (Verdun Auditorium 03 for instance), his voice is fucked BUT he uses actual technique. Listen to the lower "Feel like more"s on the Digital Bath performance, you'll see what I mean. These days he doesn't even sing, so to speak. He doesn't dare to push his diaphragm. Everytime there's a mildly demanding note, you can see by his face he doesn't push and just does it wrong.

And not to mention, it's absolutely unprofessional. Deftones were never an academic thing but come on man, you have all these bands from the 90s touring right now and they all sound decent at the least. Daryl Palumbo is aging big time and the guy is almost impeccable. Mike Patton, Maynard, you name it.

It's like Chino won't take an advice about ANYTHING lol. Too bad though, he sounded incredible back in May.

Yeah, similar thing with the screaming, it's more like shouting usually now. Unless he's really in the zone, then he goes for it and it usually works out very nicely, like when they were playing When Girls Telephone Boys. Well, I don't know, we can only hope he warms his voice up and gets better and better.

I'm still ecstatic about seeing them in London in June, though. He can sound like an 80 year old heavy smoker and I'll probably still be excited for some new songs, haha.

Quote from: MrVesanique on Mar 06, 2016, 01:50 PM
I think he used to. If you watch some footage of the later leg of the S/T tour (Verdun Auditorium 03 for instance), his voice is fucked BUT he uses actual technique. Listen to the lower "Feel like more"s on the Digital Bath performance, you'll see what I mean. These days he doesn't even sing, so to speak. He doesn't dare to push his diaphragm. Everytime there's a mildly demanding note, you can see by his face he doesn't push and just does it wrong.

And not to mention, it's absolutely unprofessional. Deftones were never an academic thing but come on man, you have all these bands from the 90s touring right now and they all sound decent at the least. Daryl Palumbo is aging big time and the guy is almost impeccable. Mike Patton, Maynard, you name it.

It's like Chino won't take an advice about ANYTHING lol. Too bad though, he sounded incredible back in May.

Maynard's far from impeccable nowadays and Daryl can be hit and miss (though certainly not in recent performances) but yeah, there is definitely a difference between them and Chino in terms of live vocals right now.

That's kind of the frustrating thing - Chino on form is basically in the territory of "vocals don't get get better than this". Chino out of form is worse than amateur. The vocal lines are still great but he either sounds flat or he ducks out of it and relies on his high scream. The worse thing is that it affects some of his best parts - the high bit in Digital Bath, the bit where he goes up in Bored ("I GET BORED!!!!!!") etc. Hearing him put in half attempts at those and inevitably failing really does ruin the mood of the songs.

Quote from: MrVesanique on Mar 06, 2016, 02:10 PM

Quote from: LG95 on Mar 06, 2016, 02:07 PM
Maynard's far from impeccable nowadays and Daryl can be hit and miss (though certainly not in recent performances) but yeah, there is definitely a difference between them and Chino in terms of live vocals right now

I said impeccable for Daryl. I shit you not, their current tour? He hasn't sounded this good in years. About Maynard, for a man his age, for the music he sings on, he still does the job pretty satisfyingly. It ain't 2001 anymore but you know.

I thought you were including Maynard in that so yeah. And I did say Daryl's certainly not hit and miss recently. He's sounding huge right now.

Chino does need to do something about his voice. It's performance on P/T is really really lame.

 Some of those fills at the end of Doomed User are sick as fuck. The 3/4 time really lets Abe stretch out