Quote from: bewareofrats on Nov 12, 2012, 10:39 PM
I prefer the particular creative period of SNW to their other albums.  I don't care what anyone says, it is their most atmospheric and spacey album and that includes WP and KNY.  Sounds way spacier than WP.

This.

If nothing else, I find SNW to be their most atmospheric, as well as their darkest. Definitely the weirdest of all their albums. It took me years to get my head around it and appreciate it as the album it is and should be heard as. It doesn't sound like any of their other albums or any other album, period.

My only wish is that they'd have included Finger of Death in the tracklisting.

Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Nov 13, 2012, 02:20 AM
You are just being a dick now a melody doesn't have to be over a huge range in can just be slight changes he doesn't sing flatly the whole song

I'm not being a dick. I just didn't agree with what that other guy said about the song's melody.

Quote from: Usurper on Nov 12, 2012, 11:50 PM

Quote from: bewareofrats on Nov 12, 2012, 11:39 PM
I wish there was a 10+ second long eagle scream on here.  It would be the first time on record and would be awesome.

In all serious though, the lack of screams is one of the reasons that hold  KNY back from being a perfect album for me.
What I enjoy most is a mixture of vocal styles.  Im not looking for all screams, nor am I looking for all melodic singing.  The combination of singing/screaming/whispering/whatever-the-fuck-else-he-does is what got me hooked all these years and is what I continue to look for.

Im all for progression, changing of styles, keeping things fresh, but I really wanted to hear chino let a few nasty screams rip.
Back when Leathers was the only song available, if I knew that was going to have the meanest scream on the album I would have been a bit concerned.  I would have settled for just a few on poltergeist.  I feel parts of that song were completely neutered.

It doesnt keep me from loving the album and playing it non stop. Just being picky.

I hear ya and agree but I think it's something I can get used to knowing there's still plenty aggression (musically) and there's enough screams and shouts and high energy vocals spread throughout.  I think Poltergeist has quite a bit of aggression on Chino's part even if it's not Hexagram-like screams.  It's also faster paced and much higher energy than songs like that so it's a trade-off.

Quote from: Black on Nov 13, 2012, 02:29 AM

Quote from: bewareofrats on Nov 12, 2012, 10:39 PM
I prefer the particular creative period of SNW to their other albums.  I don't care what anyone says, it is their most atmospheric and spacey album and that includes WP and KNY.  Sounds way spacier than WP.

This.

If nothing else, I find SNW to be their most atmospheric, as well as their darkest. Definitely the weirdest of all their albums. It took me years to get my head around it and appreciate it as the album it is and should be heard as. It doesn't sound like any of their other albums or any other album, period.

My only wish is that they'd have included Finger of Death in the tracklisting.

Yeah SNW has some of my favourite songs on it the only reason it isn't my favourite album is because it lacked consistency

Question: The right melody can be just as impactful as the loudest scream.

Chino: When you're younger, you have a lot more aggression. Some of the songs on our first record I wrote when I was 16 years old. I don't sound like a pissed-off kid anymore. As you get older you try to communicate in different ways. So, obviously, with the new record we definitely tried to expand on that idea. When you hear the first five seconds to a song and you've pretty much heard the whole song, that's kind of a bummer. With the way that we're making music now, the songs travel. I was thinking about this a few days ago — I'm 39 years old and in a little over ten years I'm going to be 50 — I was thinking, "Ah! 50 years old?" I can't imagine jumping around and screaming my head off at that age. I highly doubt that's going to be happening. But in a way, I feel like our music is maturing. I could imagine playing the songs on this record in ten years.

Source: http://www.spin.com/articles/chino-moreno-deftones-koi-no-yokan-interview

Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Nov 13, 2012, 02:32 AM

Quote from: Black on Nov 13, 2012, 02:29 AM

Quote from: bewareofrats on Nov 12, 2012, 10:39 PM
I prefer the particular creative period of SNW to their other albums.  I don't care what anyone says, it is their most atmospheric and spacey album and that includes WP and KNY.  Sounds way spacier than WP.

This.

If nothing else, I find SNW to be their most atmospheric, as well as their darkest. Definitely the weirdest of all their albums. It took me years to get my head around it and appreciate it as the album it is and should be heard as. It doesn't sound like any of their other albums or any other album, period.

My only wish is that they'd have included Finger of Death in the tracklisting.

Yeah SNW has some of my favourite songs on it the only reason it isn't my favourite album is because it lacked consistency

It's not that lacking in consistency.  Pink Cellphone is the only bad song on it, Mein is weak and that's about it.

Quote from: jaypayton on Nov 12, 2012, 08:54 PM
The people shitting on Adrenaline are probably people who are now too old and mellow to appreciate it....Same as the Chili Peppers fans who kiss their ass or their "mature" music they make nowadays and are stupid enough to shit on their early albums

That's like saying Deftones purists who don't like their last three albums are still angry about stuff that happened to them in high school when Adrenaline and ATF were their soundtracks, and can't chill out and evolve with the band's sound. It's all personal preference. Just because I've grown up and moved on from Adrenumetal doesn't make me any less of a lifelong Deftones fan.

wp
atf
s/t
kny
de
snw
adrenaline

Quote from: luisch on Nov 13, 2012, 02:35 AM

I can't imagine jumping around and screaming my head off at that age. I highly doubt that's going to be happening. But in a way, I feel like our music is maturing. I could imagine playing the songs on this record in ten years.

I'm all for seeing 50 year old Chino belting out Leathers and Poltergeist. Oh man..

Quote from: bewareofrats on Nov 13, 2012, 02:36 AM

Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Nov 13, 2012, 02:32 AM

Quote from: Black on Nov 13, 2012, 02:29 AM

Quote from: bewareofrats on Nov 12, 2012, 10:39 PM
I prefer the particular creative period of SNW to their other albums.  I don't care what anyone says, it is their most atmospheric and spacey album and that includes WP and KNY.  Sounds way spacier than WP.

This.

If nothing else, I find SNW to be their most atmospheric, as well as their darkest. Definitely the weirdest of all their albums. It took me years to get my head around it and appreciate it as the album it is and should be heard as. It doesn't sound like any of their other albums or any other album, period.

My only wish is that they'd have included Finger of Death in the tracklisting.

Yeah SNW has some of my favourite songs on it the only reason it isn't my favourite album is because it lacked consistency

It's not that lacking in consistency.  Pink Cellphone is the only bad song on it, Mein is weak and that's about it.

Rats seemed forced and the instrumentals weren't great, Rapture had the same problem as Rats even though it was a bit better,Mein was ruined by serj i like his voice but just not in that song,Konami Code was all-right but it was bit long considering it didn't really change from beginning to end it just feels like a long interlude and Pink Cellphone we'l you know lol but the rest is pretty amazing love Combat,Commanche,Xerxes and the others, this is all just opinion BTW

Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Nov 13, 2012, 02:46 AM

Quote from: bewareofrats on Nov 13, 2012, 02:36 AM

Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Nov 13, 2012, 02:32 AM

Quote from: Black on Nov 13, 2012, 02:29 AM

Quote from: bewareofrats on Nov 12, 2012, 10:39 PM
I prefer the particular creative period of SNW to their other albums.  I don't care what anyone says, it is their most atmospheric and spacey album and that includes WP and KNY.  Sounds way spacier than WP.

This.

If nothing else, I find SNW to be their most atmospheric, as well as their darkest. Definitely the weirdest of all their albums. It took me years to get my head around it and appreciate it as the album it is and should be heard as. It doesn't sound like any of their other albums or any other album, period.

My only wish is that they'd have included Finger of Death in the tracklisting.

Yeah SNW has some of my favourite songs on it the only reason it isn't my favourite album is because it lacked consistency

It's not that lacking in consistency.  Pink Cellphone is the only bad song on it, Mein is weak and that's about it.

Rats seemed forced and the instrumentals weren't great, Rapture had the same problem as Rats even though it was a bit better,Mein was ruined by serj i like his voice but just not in that song,Konami Code was all-right but it was bit long considering it didn't really change from beginning to end it just feels like a long interlude and Pink Cellphone we'l you know lol but the rest is pretty amazing love Combat,Commanche,Xerxes and the others, this is all just opinion BTW

Commanche? WTF? There's a song on SNW called commanche?

Quote from: Bza々 on Nov 13, 2012, 03:14 AM

Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Nov 13, 2012, 02:46 AM

Quote from: bewareofrats on Nov 13, 2012, 02:36 AM

Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Nov 13, 2012, 02:32 AM

Quote from: Black on Nov 13, 2012, 02:29 AM

Quote from: bewareofrats on Nov 12, 2012, 10:39 PM
I prefer the particular creative period of SNW to their other albums.  I don't care what anyone says, it is their most atmospheric and spacey album and that includes WP and KNY.  Sounds way spacier than WP.

This.

If nothing else, I find SNW to be their most atmospheric, as well as their darkest. Definitely the weirdest of all their albums. It took me years to get my head around it and appreciate it as the album it is and should be heard as. It doesn't sound like any of their other albums or any other album, period.

My only wish is that they'd have included Finger of Death in the tracklisting.

Yeah SNW has some of my favourite songs on it the only reason it isn't my favourite album is because it lacked consistency

It's not that lacking in consistency.  Pink Cellphone is the only bad song on it, Mein is weak and that's about it.

Rats seemed forced and the instrumentals weren't great, Rapture had the same problem as Rats even though it was a bit better,Mein was ruined by serj i like his voice but just not in that song,Konami Code was all-right but it was bit long considering it didn't really change from beginning to end it just feels like a long interlude and Pink Cellphone we'l you know lol but the rest is pretty amazing love Combat,Commanche,Xerxes and the others, this is all just opinion BTW

Commanche? WTF? There's a song on SNW called commanche?

It's same song as Riviere

Here's the review I wrote for Koi No Yokan
http://johnnyringoreviews.wordpress.com/2012/11/12/guest-post-deftones-koi-no-yokan-review/

Quote from: DAFTPUNK87 on Nov 13, 2012, 03:22 AM
Here's the review I wrote for Koi No Yokan
http://johnnyringoreviews.wordpress.com/2012/11/12/guest-post-deftones-koi-no-yokan-review/

j/k

awesome accurate review..

bless

I just can't believe how good this album is. It just works for me.

Quote from: DAFTPUNK87 on Nov 13, 2012, 03:22 AM
Here's the review I wrote for Koi No Yokan
http://johnnyringoreviews.wordpress.com/2012/11/12/guest-post-deftones-koi-no-yokan-review/

Good job, nice review ...

-Around the Fur
-White Pony
-Diamond Eyes
-Adrenaline
-Koi No Yokan
-Deftones
-Saturday Night Wrist

atf
wp
s/t
kny
adrenaline
DE
snr

-white pony
-deftones
-around the fur
-saturday night wrist
-koi no yokan
-adrenaline
-diamond eyes

I have purposely not listened to KNY for the past 3 days so it's somewhat fresh when I pick up a copy tomorrow. Excited!