Quote from: gui on Nov 11, 2012, 08:42 PM
Gauze opening riff sounds something out of a korn album. I like it though.

http://youtu.be/F4skIXijALE

Crenshaw's, riff reminds me of that dissonant riff in Gauze. Just a bit more drug out and down tempo.

goon squad reminds me Smashing Pumpkins.

Here we go: 

This album really isn't obvious on the vocal front, is it?  I've listened to it three times now and the second time was the least satisfying.  Third time I went for a walk and it did much more for me.  I see great potential in this album but there's no doubt I'm going to need some time with this one.  It's not an instant hit for me.  After 3 listens there seems to not be much that really grabs me vocally.  It's just that Chino's singing style has really changed.  It started on Diamond Eyes but it's definitely more apparent here.  It's like he's trying to sing more perfectly and he's losing emotional power and uniqueness.  Right now his vocals/singing sounds much more interesting to me on the other records, especially SNW and back.  It's the only thing I was quite concerned about on this record but I just have to get used to this new vocal style.  Also, there's too much high singing on the record, he needs to tone it back a bit. It has more impact if it's not all over the record.  It's sad that the main thing that stood out to me in Deftones is losing its power and uniqueness but this record is its own thing and I hope I can start to appreciate it as such.

I can see why some people are saying this sounds like their most commercial album but I think it's mainly the first half.  The last half has quite a bit darker of a tone.  Right now my favourite songs are probably Leathers, Tempest, Rosemary and maybe Romantic Dreams.  There really isn't a bad song at all though.  I am glad there's no electronic or rap-esque track.  Entombed is really nice but laid back and subtle.  It reminds me of Beauty School but isn't nearly as powerful.  I like Swerve City quite a bit overall but the riff is kind of generic/non Deftones sounding.  This album has energy all over the place and more tempo changes which I really like.  Goon Squad being near the end is great.  I think this is more musically aggressive overall than DE.  I think the comparisons to DE and WP are apt.

AHHHHHH so many thoughts and so much to say but I don't want to write a novel.  I must add though, holy moly does the last half of Tempest remind me of Living Through Me by Pantera.  Doesn't anyone else hear this?  Is it intentional?

Quote from: bewareofrats on Nov 12, 2012, 12:08 AM
Here we go: 

This album really isn't obvious on the vocal front, is it?  I've listened to it three times now and the second time was the least satisfying.  Third time I went for a walk and it did much more for me.  I see great potential in this album but there's no doubt I'm going to need some time with this one.  It's not an instant hit for me.  After 3 listens there seems to not be much that really grabs me vocally.  It's just that Chino's singing style has really changed.  It started on Diamond Eyes but it's definitely more apparent here.  It's like he's trying to sing more perfectly and he's losing emotional power and uniqueness.  Right now his vocals/singing sounds much more interesting to me on the other records, especially SNW and back.  It's the only thing I was quite concerned about on this record but I just have to get used to this new vocal style.  Also, there's too much high singing on the record, he needs to tone it back a bit. It has more impact if it's not all over the record.  It's sad that the main thing that stood out to me in Deftones is losing its power and uniqueness but this record is its own thing and I hope I can start to appreciate it as such.

I can see why some people are saying this sounds like their most commercial album but I think it's mainly the first half.  The last half has quite a bit darker of a tone.  Right now my favourite songs are probably Leathers, Tempest, Rosemary and maybe Romantic Dreams.  There really isn't a bad song at all though.  I am glad there's no electronic or rap-esque track.  Entombed is really nice but laid back and subtle.  It reminds me of Beauty School but isn't nearly as powerful.  I like Swerve City quite a bit overall but the riff is kind of generic/non Deftones sounding.  This album has energy all over the place and more tempo changes which I really like.  Goon Squad being near the end is great.  I think this is more musically aggressive overall than DE.  I think the comparisons to DE and WP are apt.

AHHHHHH so many thoughts and so much to say but I don't want to write a novel.  I must add though, holy moly does the last half of Tempest remind me of Living Through Me by Pantera.  Doesn't anyone else hear this?  Is it intentional?

I pretty much agree with all of that. Rosemary and leathers are really the only songs from the album I'm listening to on a daily basis because they're the only songs on this record that give me somewhat of a dose of the deftones I love. Entombed, poltergeist, and tempest are cool but I don't really give a fuck for them. Maybe this shit will grow on me, diamond eyes has to an extent. We shall see.....

Quote from: bewareofrats on Nov 12, 2012, 12:08 AM

I can see why some people are saying this sounds like their most commercial album but I think it's mainly the first half.  The last half has quite a bit darker of a tone.

Agreed. Tempest through to the end of Goon Squad especially. Those four songs in a row are the album highlight for me.

And like some others here, I too am disappointed by WHTY? but what can you do. Maybe my appreciation will grow with time.

The thing is, people who were depressed and angry at the world and pissed off found deftones, and some of those people are still like that, so the new stuff alienates them. That's my problem with it, but i understand its just another stage of their career. Doesn't mean i have to like it, i can't like it if i can't relate.

Certain people look for deftones for certain things, and those things are gone for me. I guess people who vibe with the record are pretty chilled out and such. I don't know, i found so much emotion in deftones when I first discovered the band. They've alienated me and several others with this new direction. Us fans have to be a bit disappointed, so I hope the new fans can at least respect us fans of the older material. Even if they don't like it.

The last 2 listens Poltergeist has really grown on me.  Man, it is an intense high energy song.  I love Chino's high notes in the chorus of this song.

Quote from: versatile on Nov 11, 2012, 02:23 AM
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Chino Moreno DJ Set
Chino Moreno DJ Set en Maquinaria Fest 2012

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Yess!!! Myyy nigga! This makes me more happy than it should 

Quote from: xToxin on Nov 12, 2012, 12:46 AM
The thing is, people who were depressed and angry at the world and pissed off found deftones, and some of those people are still like that, so the new stuff alienates them. That's my problem with it, but i understand its just another stage of their career. Doesn't mean i have to like it, i can't like it if i can't relate.

Certain people look for deftones for certain things, and those things are gone for me. I guess people who vibe with the record are pretty chilled out and such. I don't know, i found so much emotion in deftones when I first discovered the band. They've alienated me and several others with this new direction. Us fans have to be a bit disappointed, so I hope the new fans can at least respect us fans of the older material. Even if they don't like it.

Well put. Deftones/Team Sleep has always been my music to help me reflect on relationships and cope with tough times. The music I typically listen to when I'm upbeat is electronic music like dubstep, trance, drum n bass, hardstyle etc. I'm glad they've found a new fanbase and I'm happy for Chino finding peace in life, all his older work that I can relate to more will never get old so it's all good.

I agree with anyone saying this could be their best record. And I'm not even comparing it to the others because it's on a completely different level. I had to dust of my home stereo with my 15" Cerwin Vega which I haven't done in a long time (my pc has a fat 10" powered sub so I only use the 15" when I need overkill;) and it was like injecting heroin into my ears.

i still don't get all the love for swerve city.  the main riff is generic and isn't as groovy as everyone keeps saying.  the verses are really the only good thing about this song.  i think the first half of the album apart from romantic dreams is sort of lackluster.  poltergeist sounds forced and leathers sounds really contained.  entombed is repetitive as can be.  from tempest on, the album is great.  first half, not so much.

I dunno, for some reason Swerve City reminds me of Jennifer Love Hewwit.....

WHTY? was my favorite song until I was listening to it earlier today and my ex msgd me something awful, pretty much got my heart broken while listening to it and now I wont be able to listen to it without feeling like shit. Fucking asshole.

Swerve City is groovy as hell, I danced about my living room as soon as it started, and didn't stop for the whole song. It just grabs me instantly, and the verses/bridge are so soaring. The whole album is solid and consistent from start to finish. Makes you wanna just start it over again.

Quote from: ponyx on Nov 12, 2012, 03:17 AM
WHTY? was my favorite song until I was listening to it earlier today and my ex msgd me something awful, pretty much got my heart broken while listening to it and now I wont be able to listen to it without feeling like shit. Fucking asshole.

What kind of a sick bitch texts something that could possibly break someone's heart?

I like Gauze and What Happened to You a lot! Poltergeist is pretty tight as well!

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Quote from: ponyx on Nov 12, 2012, 03:17 AM
WHTY? was my favorite song until I was listening to it earlier today and my ex msgd me something awful, pretty much got my heart broken while listening to it and now I wont be able to listen to it without feeling like shit. Fucking asshole.

What kind of a sick bitch texts something that could possibly break someone's heart?

"Your dad has a bigger cock than yours"

yeah the verses on swerve are really great.  just leaves something to be desired.  i feel like it's sort of lazy otherwise.

I dunno dude, I just feel it's perfect as an opening track. Yeah, it's short and sweet, finishes before it really begins, but it kind of works in its favour, as it never gets tiresome. The riff might be generic otherwise but it just works so well in this song IMO. Gives me an urge to jump up and down furiously lol.
Then we enter Romantic Dreams, probably my least favourite on first listen but growing on me immensely now. I think it's an amazing song. Its all kind of simple but so effective. You wouldnt expect "I'm hypnotised by your name, I wish this night would never end" to be a great chorus but it just sounds so right and honest in that song.

romantic dreams is one of the better songs on the album.  the fact that you're saying it's simple and swerve city is better concerns me.