check this:

On Jun-08-11 at 18:01:08 PDT, seller added the following information:

THIS IS A LIMITED EDITION LP THAT WAS MADE AROUND THE SAME TIME 1999-2000 WHEN THE ORANGE LP WAS PRODUCED AND WAS NOT PUT ON THE SHELVES IS WHAT WAS TOLD WHEN IT WAS RECEIVED THAT ONLY EMPLOYEES/ BAND MEMBERS/WORK STAFF HAD ACCESS TO SOME OF THEM AND SOME WERE NOT COLLECTED AS AGAIN ONLY A LIMITED AMOUNT WERE MADE IS WHAT WE WERE TOLD WHEN IT WAS GIVEN TO US, ALSO THAT THIS HAS A DIFFERENT UPC THEN THE ONE THAT CAME OUT NOT TO LONG AGO THAT WAS TOLD TO US BY ANOTHER EBAY MEMBER. THANKS FOR THAT AS IT PRETTY MUCH HAS THE SAME DESIGN BUT OLDER.  IT DOES HAVE SOME WEAR TO IT BUT NOT MUCH. AGAIN IN LIKE- NEW CONDITION SOME CORNERS ARE A LITTLE WORN- VERY SMALL CREASE'S AND OR SCRATCHES ON THE BACK AND FRONT OF THE CASE NOT THE VINYL BUT VERY SMALL.  SORRY FOR ANY CONFUSION AS THIS IS NOT BRAND NEW, THE RECORD IS NEW AS ITS NEVER BEEN PLAYED!

...as far as I understood, there was no previous version of atf on vinyl.

Quote from: illmono on Jun 09, 2011, 12:57 PM
check this:

On Jun-08-11 at 18:01:08 PDT, seller added the following information:

THIS IS A LIMITED EDITION LP THAT WAS MADE AROUND THE SAME TIME 1999-2000 WHEN THE ORANGE LP WAS PRODUCED AND WAS NOT PUT ON THE SHELVES IS WHAT WAS TOLD WHEN IT WAS RECEIVED THAT ONLY EMPLOYEES/ BAND MEMBERS/WORK STAFF HAD ACCESS TO SOME OF THEM AND SOME WERE NOT COLLECTED AS AGAIN ONLY A LIMITED AMOUNT WERE MADE IS WHAT WE WERE TOLD WHEN IT WAS GIVEN TO US, ALSO THAT THIS HAS A DIFFERENT UPC THEN THE ONE THAT CAME OUT NOT TO LONG AGO THAT WAS TOLD TO US BY ANOTHER EBAY MEMBER. THANKS FOR THAT AS IT PRETTY MUCH HAS THE SAME DESIGN BUT OLDER.  IT DOES HAVE SOME WEAR TO IT BUT NOT MUCH. AGAIN IN LIKE- NEW CONDITION SOME CORNERS ARE A LITTLE WORN- VERY SMALL CREASE'S AND OR SCRATCHES ON THE BACK AND FRONT OF THE CASE NOT THE VINYL BUT VERY SMALL.  SORRY FOR ANY CONFUSION AS THIS IS NOT BRAND NEW, THE RECORD IS NEW AS ITS NEVER BEEN PLAYED!

...as far as I understood, there was no previous version of atf on vinyl.

Wow! This guy just can't stop lying. This was NOT around back in "1999/2000." This guy is sad. He can't even keep his lies straight.

Some guy on a baseball card message board posted his info a while back. I'm sure he changed the phone number but who knows.
Gregg Drew
365 Portland Street
Rochester, NH 03867
(603) 534-4156
email address: 666not555@live.com

Well any ATF vinyl produced back then would have been a promo and would most likely just have a blank white sleeve, and there was never any promos pressed especially in 99/00.nobody would waste the money pressing so few copies and fans would have learned about it. Lies on lies is how a fuckface dies.

So, I can't contact this loser because he banned me a long time ago on his old account for calling him on his bullshit. One of you guys should send him a link to this thread. Someone did that on some baseball card message board and he threatened to make an account on the board and "put everyone in check." I would like to see him try to lie his way through this situation here. Also, the fake autographed ATF auction ended tonight and some dipstick paid $81 for it. This guy is lining his pockets by conning people and it's just shitty. According to the baseball card boards, he breaks cards out of cases and writes "1 of 1" on em and stuff like that. I don't know much about baseball cards but there is some lengthy threads on a few boards about this weasel.

Overall, if you go read up on this dude (by doing a Google search of his old eBay ID: allhopeisgone1980) you will see that he is one strange guy. I am thinking he's a meth head or something similar.

Man that is so shady. He was selling a lot of Deftones, and Slipknot stuff when I purchased the red white pony album autographed from him. He even had a signed slipknot mask. Shitty thing is, now I have a really rare cd is excellent, never played condition...with a bunch of phony autographs all over it...

Anyone know how to remove silver sharpie without harming the plastic case? lmao

I am glad someone else noticed this too, its sad to see someone paid 81 dollars for something that is fake. I wish somethng could be done to stop him, but all he has to do is make another account.

Quote from: stunt-r on Jun 11, 2011, 01:11 PM
Anyone know how to remove silver sharpie without harming the plastic case? lmao

Enamel paint thinner. I'd just leave em on there for the hell of it though.

another from this seller:

http://cgi.ebay.com/DEFTONES-SIGNED-AROUND-FUR-ADRENALINE-CDS-PASSES-/110704982281?_trksid=p4340.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D200616305361%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D781769775780698811

put 'is fookin head on a pike

Quote from: Bqad on Jun 09, 2011, 04:52 PM

Quote from: illmono on Jun 09, 2011, 12:57 PM
check this:

On Jun-08-11 at 18:01:08 PDT, seller added the following information:

THIS IS A LIMITED EDITION LP THAT WAS MADE AROUND THE SAME TIME 1999-2000 WHEN THE ORANGE LP WAS PRODUCED AND WAS NOT PUT ON THE SHELVES IS WHAT WAS TOLD WHEN IT WAS RECEIVED THAT ONLY EMPLOYEES/ BAND MEMBERS/WORK STAFF HAD ACCESS TO SOME OF THEM AND SOME WERE NOT COLLECTED AS AGAIN ONLY A LIMITED AMOUNT WERE MADE IS WHAT WE WERE TOLD WHEN IT WAS GIVEN TO US, ALSO THAT THIS HAS A DIFFERENT UPC THEN THE ONE THAT CAME OUT NOT TO LONG AGO THAT WAS TOLD TO US BY ANOTHER EBAY MEMBER. THANKS FOR THAT AS IT PRETTY MUCH HAS THE SAME DESIGN BUT OLDER.  IT DOES HAVE SOME WEAR TO IT BUT NOT MUCH. AGAIN IN LIKE- NEW CONDITION SOME CORNERS ARE A LITTLE WORN- VERY SMALL CREASE'S AND OR SCRATCHES ON THE BACK AND FRONT OF THE CASE NOT THE VINYL BUT VERY SMALL.  SORRY FOR ANY CONFUSION AS THIS IS NOT BRAND NEW, THE RECORD IS NEW AS ITS NEVER BEEN PLAYED!

...as far as I understood, there was no previous version of atf on vinyl.

Wow! This guy just can't stop lying. This was NOT around back in "1999/2000." This guy is sad. He can't even keep his lies straight.

Some guy on a baseball card message board posted his info a while back. I'm sure he changed the phone number but who knows.
Gregg Drew
365 Portland Street
Rochester, NH 03867
(603) 534-4156
email address: 666not555@live.com

we can at least spam his email addy.

or mail him something rotten and disgusting

Quote from: Oldnewtype on Jun 23, 2011, 01:18 AM
or mail him something rotten and disgusting

This.

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it was never released until now.  beat his ass.
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all ATF vinyls except for the one that was just released are fakes/bootlegs at best

I recently did business with this guy and he is a big prick...He bought an autographed setlist from me and he also bid on an autographed sleeve...He emailed me and asked me to cancel his bid on the autographed sleeve...Which I'm a nice guy so I did...He won the autographed setlist and didn't pay for 3 days and he didn't respond to any of my emails so I told him I was going to relist the item because of no payment and poor communication on his part...He then FINALLY emails me and throws a hissy fit saying that he won the item and blah blah blah...Dude is a huge dickhead...And that is the correct addy above...He is selling what he got from me for $45 more and didn't leave me positive feedback.

Here is the item he got from me on ebay...He has put a picture of a 2010 deftones pass up as his authenticity (Bogus)...He wanted to get my pass but I wouldn't let it go...Someone should ask him how he acquired that piece and let's see if he hangs himself.

http://cgi.ebay.com/DEFTONES-SIGNED-STAGE-SET-LIST-DIAMOND-EYES-TOUR-RARE-/200620779020?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb5ee260c

Someone should call him out over the "signed" ATF, since he claims it was signed in 1997 then technically its should has a coloured inside booklet? Am I right or...

Quote from: illmono on Jun 20, 2011, 03:07 PM
another from this seller:

http://cgi.ebay.com/DEFTONES-SIGNED-AROUND-FUR-ADRENALINE-CDS-PASSES-/110704982281?_trksid=p4340.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D200616305361%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D781769775780698811

Bumping an old thread but this guy continues his shenanigans. He still has multiple accounts (triplethreads1980, jackofalltrades1999) and he has the old one you can research (allhopeisgone1980).

Isn't it funny that he keeps on selling the exact same thing as the link I quoted above? More needs to be done about this guy. He blocked me from messaging him (because he has NO balls whatsoever) so someone here should send him a link to this thread. Maybe he'll make an account here and try to back up all his bullshit. There's some guys on a baseball card forum that said they're contacting the FBI about this ass. I am sure nothing will happen but who knows.

lol fbi

he even spelled stef, "step"

Another false (not sure if it´s the same seller):

http://cgi.ebay.com/Deftones-Around-Fur-Promo-Flat-Signed-Chi-Chang-/330601997574?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item4cf96a2506

Quote from: bebo on Aug 09, 2011, 02:46 AM
lol fbi

I laughed too but the guy seemed pretty serious about it

Quote from: illmono on Aug 16, 2011, 04:14 AM
Another false (not sure if it´s the same seller):

http://cgi.ebay.com/Deftones-Around-Fur-Promo-Flat-Signed-Chi-Chang-/330601997574?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item4cf96a2506

How do you know this is a fake? The seller has quite a few Deftones autos up and they look pretty darn legit. On second thought, are you thinking this auction is for the record? It's actually a 12x12 album flat (poster) and it came out back when ATF did.