We've already got a MMA thread so there must at least be a few people who train in some martial art. I currently study Aikido (10 years on and off, currently on for good I hope) and Judo (just over a year and on for good as well). I've only got one more year of college left so after that if I end up relocating I may drop Aikido for Kyokushin Karate as I've never trained in a striking art and I really want to learn how to hit. I'd also like to study Shinkendo at some point as well. You guys might recognize the founder of Shinkendo as Tetsu from the TMNT movies. Apparently he's the real deal and is considered the best living Japanese swordsman.
www.shinkendo.com (http://www.shinkendo.com)
i dont do any training right now because i'm still in college. after college i'd like to learn more jui jitsu and boxing..i took a few jui jitsu classes in highschool and just didnt have time any more because i played baseball. i do some weight training now and that's about it
I plan on taking some jiu jitsu classes later on when I have the money to pay for it. Another thing i'm thinking about learning is muay thai but that would be hard and painful haha but then again it would definately be worth it.
^yeah..if you wanna be good in the clinch you've got to know muay thai
I used to train. I was a 1st Dan in Karate then started Jiu Jistsu but didn't have the time to pursue it :(
I'm planning on starting Jiu Jitsu soon, when I have the money, probably in a month or two.
My step dad is an Aikido teacher, 2nd degree black belt. My sister and little brother do it as well. So I need to get in on something to still be able to kick their asses.
Kyokushin Karate is a striking sport huh? Maybe I should look into that. I wouldn't mind learning how to strike too.
Quote from: ZetecTuner on Aug 20, 2006, 01:35 AM
I'm planning on starting Jiu Jitsu soon, when I have the money, probably in a month or two.
My step dad is an Aikido teacher, 2nd degree black belt. My sister and little brother do it as well. So I need to get in on something to still be able to kick their asses.
Kyokushin Karate is a striking sport huh? Maybe I should look into that. I wouldn't mind learning how to strike too.
Kyokushin Karate is absolutely badass. Read up on Mas Oyama and you'll see. I'd recommend Judo over Jiu-Jitsu as a starting art though. Jiu-Jitsu guys don't do enough stand-up stuff (since their focus is on groundwork about 80/20 opposed to standup). Judo is mainly a standing art but still covers groundwork pretty well. It flips the ratio for the most part 80/20 standing to ground. Judo is also usually dirt cheap whereas Jiu-Jitsu usually is pretty expensive.
the Judo/Jui-Jitsu combination would be good to learn, even for a starter. using the judo stand up and tosses (like in your sig^), and then executing the jui-jitsu ground game. regular boxing would be something worth taking too
National Geographics Fight Science is up now. I wanted to watch it but I don't have that channel.
Here's a description:
National Geographics Fight Science
It strikes four times faster than a snake. It kicks with more than 1,000 pounds (453.59 kg) of force. And it can rival the impact of a 35 mph (56.33 kph) car crash. It's the most complex weapon ever designed—the human body. National Geographic Channel brings together a team of experts and a cross section of champion martial arts masters to analyze the world's greatest fighting techniques and find out which discipline has the hardest hits, the fastest moves, and even the deadliest weapons.
if you're interested you can download here
http://torrentspy.com/torrent/841613/National_Geographics_Fight_Science_DSR_XviD_KmF_avi_eztv_Kimble
Quote from: Teddy. on Aug 22, 2006, 04:50 PM
National Geographics Fight Science is up now. I wanted to watch it but I don't have that channel.
Here's a description:
National Geographics Fight Science
It strikes four times faster than a snake. It kicks with more than 1,000 pounds (453.59 kg) of force. And it can rival the impact of a 35 mph (56.33 kph) car crash. It's the most complex weapon ever designed—the human body. National Geographic Channel brings together a team of experts and a cross section of champion martial arts masters to analyze the world's greatest fighting techniques and find out which discipline has the hardest hits, the fastest moves, and even the deadliest weapons.
if you're interested you can download here
http://torrentspy.com/torrent/841613/National_Geographics_Fight_Science_DSR_XviD_KmF_avi_eztv_Kimble
I saw it. It was TERRIBLE. It was pretty much a LARPer suckfest. It was back and forth between BS Dim-Mak Touch of Death too d3adly 4 teh str33t ninja magic and actual real fighters. The only good parts were when they tested out Rickson Gracie's bone-breaking power and the 3 seconds they showed Toshishiro Obata.
I heard muay thai had the hardest strikes
submission wrestling, kickboxing, and a little bit of freestyle wrestling. I've also dabbled in Judo and Kyukushin. I hardly have time or money to train anymore and I had just started to pick up MMA. I'm actually thinking of taking a semester off, getting a job at a warehouse or something, and training alot of MMA just to see how far I can push myself before I get sucked into the monotony of life.
I did Taekwondo for 9 years and got to black belt, but then I started college and really fell out of the routine of training three times a week and just didn't have time and didn't really want to carry on, I've got loads of trophies from fights I won and I'm proud that I did it
I'm seriously thinking of taking up Muay Thai when I leave University
Quote from: Ghost of a Bullet on Dec 09, 2006, 04:43 PM
I did Taekwondo for 9 years and got to black belt, but then I started college and really fell out of the routine of training three times a week and just didn't have time and didn't really want to carry on, I've got loads of trophies from fights I won and I'm proud that I did it
I'm seriously thinking of taking up Muay Thai when I leave University
Do it!
I have been doing Taekwondo for about 10 years and have just started learning some Jiu jitsu. Have also studied some Bruce Lee books on all sorts of things. its cool
i took tae-kwan-do from when i was 12-16. i got pretty damn good at it, kicking like Van Dam(that's who i tried to emulate). but... i'm 27 now, messed up hamstring, & not nearly as flexable as i once was
i did tae kwon do for about 4 years but then decided to make the switch to jow ga kung fu recently. Im not as gracefull as i was in hs, cuz of all the excessive partying and being in a band for a while and all that, now im suffering, and the kung fu work outs we do is so much harder.
I've found a few Muay Thai classes around my area, I'm gonna start up soon, can't wait.
oh cool perhaps someone has some nice advices for me.
- im training both capoeira angola und capoeira regional for 1-2 years now
-i made judo for id say 10 years
-some experiences with fencing and wushu
now i am searching for somethin to kick some asses and acutally develop hard kicks and probablly punches but my kicks should me more effective since i am 190 cm high but only weigh about 60kg so i dont have that much power ;)
what would be better? karate or taekwondo?
or should i go on with wushu?
Quote from: Nailec on Feb 22, 2007, 04:05 PM
oh cool perhaps someone has some nice advices for me.
- im training both capoeira angola und capoeira regional for 1-2 years now
-i made judo for id say 10 years
-some experiences with fencing and wushu
now i am searching for somethin to kick some asses and acutally develop hard kicks and probablly punches but my kicks should me more effective since i am 190 cm high but only weigh about 60kg so i dont have that much power ;)
what would be better? karate or taekwondo?
or should i go on with wushu?
If you want really hard striking, Muay Thai or maybe even standard kickboxing.
brown belt, third dan in karate
i wanted to go for black but i discovered drugs as an easier way of making me feeling tough
lol
Quote from: Gaz on Feb 22, 2007, 04:21 PM
Quote from: Nailec on Feb 22, 2007, 04:05 PM
oh cool perhaps someone has some nice advices for me.
- im training both capoeira angola und capoeira regional for 1-2 years now
-i made judo for id say 10 years
-some experiences with fencing and wushu
now i am searching for somethin to kick some asses and acutally develop hard kicks and probablly punches but my kicks should me more effective since i am 190 cm high but only weigh about 60kg so i dont have that much power ;)
what would be better? karate or taekwondo?
or should i go on with wushu?
If you want really hard striking, Muay Thai or maybe even standard kickboxing.
so no hard kicking in karate and taekwondo?
i mean i dont live in a large town so i dont think here is any muay thai center. even if that would be so nice!
Quote from: Nailec on Feb 22, 2007, 04:41 PM
Quote from: Gaz on Feb 22, 2007, 04:21 PM
Quote from: Nailec on Feb 22, 2007, 04:05 PM
oh cool perhaps someone has some nice advices for me.
- im training both capoeira angola und capoeira regional for 1-2 years now
-i made judo for id say 10 years
-some experiences with fencing and wushu
now i am searching for somethin to kick some asses and acutally develop hard kicks and probablly punches but my kicks should me more effective since i am 190 cm high but only weigh about 60kg so i dont have that much power ;)
what would be better? karate or taekwondo?
or should i go on with wushu?
If you want really hard striking, Muay Thai or maybe even standard kickboxing.
so no hard kicking in karate and taekwondo?
i mean i dont live in a large town so i dont think here is any muay thai center. even if that would be so nice!
No there are hard strikes in Karate and Taekwondo, but Muay Thai focuses on hard striking (kicking with the shin, using knees, elbows etc;)
Where do you live?, I'm sure there will be a Muay Thai training center close, I thought there wasn't that many close to where I live but there is.
I practice Kung-fu, thought about quitting a lot, but I still show up in the center. It keeps me fit and sore, never applied it in real life though.
i heard rumors that muay thai is pretty much of a nazi sport here in germany.
so no muay thai for me. i'll take some taekwondo lessons and see.
it would perfectly fit with my capoeira. just using legs and so on.
not very good for street fights but i dont give a shit since that happens once a year or so.
Quote from: Nailec on Mar 07, 2007, 01:14 AM
i heard rumors that muay thai is pretty much of a nazi sport here in germany.
so no muay thai for me. i'll take some taekwondo lessons and see.
it would perfectly fit with my capoeira. just using legs and so on.
not very good for street fights but i dont give a shit since that happens once a year or so.
Nazi sport? wtf!?
It's from Thailand, what has it got to do with Nazi's?
doesn`t matter where it is from. nazis also eat foreign food and wear foreign clothes.
dont know how they can hate foreigners but use everything the others do.
so i guess its an attractive sport for hooligans and skins to improve streetfight skills. u know like muay thai kickboxing etc are very good for the street in contrary to judo, capoeira and stuff
free fight events here in germany are very often mixed with shitloads of nazis yelling their "sieg heil" and applauding their nazi friends in the ring.
dunno perhaps its coz this free fight scene has no philosophy like budo sport and that.
so nazis use muay thai as an instrument for their shit
Quote from: Nailec on Mar 07, 2007, 09:23 PM
doesn`t matter where it is from. nazis also eat foreign food and wear foreign clothes.
dont know how they can hate foreigners but use everything the others do.
so i guess its an attractive sport for hooligans and skins to improve streetfight skills. u know like muay thai kickboxing etc are very good for the street in contrary to judo, capoeira and stuff
free fight events here in germany are very often mixed with shitloads of nazis yelling their "sieg heil" and applauding their nazi friends in the ring.
dunno perhaps its coz this free fight scene has no philosophy like budo sport and that.
so nazis use muay thai as an instrument for their shit
Uhhhhhh, right.......
Anyways, Judo is by far probably the best unarmed martial art for street fights outside of training at a mixed martial arts gym. Grappling is the most important thing for someone to learn who wants to survive a fight. Other good substitutes for Judo would be Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Wrestling, SAMBO, or a Japanese Jujutsu place that does a lot of sparring.
Quote from: Nailec on Mar 07, 2007, 09:23 PM
doesn`t matter where it is from. nazis also eat foreign food and wear foreign clothes.
dont know how they can hate foreigners but use everything the others do.
so i guess its an attractive sport for hooligans and skins to improve streetfight skills. u know like muay thai kickboxing etc are very good for the street in contrary to judo, capoeira and stuff
free fight events here in germany are very often mixed with shitloads of nazis yelling their "sieg heil" and applauding their nazi friends in the ring.
dunno perhaps its coz this free fight scene has no philosophy like budo sport and that.
so nazis use muay thai as an instrument for their shit
damn, thats fucked up.
interesting documentation i found.
http://www.history.com/minisite.do?content_type=mini_home&mini_id=54986
there should be interesting stuff for everyone who trains.
some episodes
http://www.megaupload.com/de/?d=PEAPKBKT krav maga
http://www.megaupload.com/de/?d=MU6IZCLQ pancrease
http://www.megaupload.com/de/?d=KE9RHZNJ judo
http://www.megaupload.com/de/?d=4WR3VF8S savate
http://www.megaupload.com/de/?d=R4QVDSPI eskrima
http://www.megaupload.com/de/?d=HHQ1H3CC muay thai
http://www.megaupload.com/de/?d=VYY8E8JH marine corps martial arts
http://www.megaupload.com/de/?d=JT4T442N mma
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WA5BEBEG karate
I've always wanted to, I have limmited knowledge on training though, I barely know where to start. Maybe I'll take up some kickboxing when I get a job.
i forget where i was reading it, but there is this really good article about training at the militech camp in iowa. it sounds pretty brutal. i will try to find
i am pretty satisfied with taekwondo. even though i just had like 10 trainings and i am a beginner. but its a lot of fun to me.
to bad you arent allowed to kick in others legs.
all in all i think capoeira and taekwondo are a good combination for me. not very usefull when it comes to streetfights. but better than doing nothing and i think i wouldnt have that much fun in muay thai here. see above for reasons.
but sometime when i developed some really good kicking skills, i will try muay thai or kickboxing in berlin. or even just boxing but i think i should use my long legs so boxing would be strange. ok i got long arms but im weak so
Quote from: Teddy. on Aug 22, 2006, 06:45 PM
I heard muay thai had the hardest strikes
Most efftective! Boxing is hardest, Muay Thai is most effective... Ever caught an elbow... Now that hurts. But I would rather take an elbow off a unbalenced body then a straigh blow from Tyson...
Damn, their are some experienced people here. I've been taking fundamental Muay Thai / Kickboxing for 1 year. Recently getting back into the gym with the rest of the group since I got kicked about months ago when my trainer heard I got arrested...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfGz35FyV0U
love it. even the song is a pretty good choice vor this vid
Quote from: 13hourstoparadise on Jan 12, 2008, 12:43 AM
Quote from: Teddy. on Aug 22, 2006, 06:45 PM
I heard muay thai had the hardest strikes
Most efftective! Boxing is hardest, Muay Thai is most effective... Ever caught an elbow... Now that hurts. But I would rather take an elbow off a unbalenced body then a straigh blow from Tyson...
everything about this statement is so true.
Since when are you bumping threads Trey ??
Quote from: Variable on Oct 12, 2008, 10:31 AM
Quote from: 13hourstoparadise on Jan 12, 2008, 12:43 AM
Quote from: Teddy. on Aug 22, 2006, 06:45 PM
I heard muay thai had the hardest strikes
Most efftective! Boxing is hardest, Muay Thai is most effective... Ever caught an elbow... Now that hurts. But I would rather take an elbow off a unbalenced body then a straigh blow from Tyson...
everything about this statement is so true.
Fuck that!! Bone to bone would hurt WAY more that a boxing glove with force. You mean to tell me that a hand covered in a boxing glove would hurt more than a knee or elbow to the skull?? I'd much rather take a punch. Besides,boxing gloves are WAY thicker that ones used in Muay Thai...and i'm pretty sure most of the dudes can hit as hard IF NOT harder than Tyson...just sayin......
Quote from: tarkil on Oct 12, 2008, 01:21 PM
Since when are you bumping threads Trey ??
lol, it was on the front page.
Quote from: devilinside on Oct 13, 2008, 12:15 AM
Quote from: Variable on Oct 12, 2008, 10:31 AM
Quote from: 13hourstoparadise on Jan 12, 2008, 12:43 AM
Quote from: Teddy. on Aug 22, 2006, 06:45 PM
I heard muay thai had the hardest strikes
Most efftective! Boxing is hardest, Muay Thai is most effective... Ever caught an elbow... Now that hurts. But I would rather take an elbow off a unbalenced body then a straigh blow from Tyson...
everything about this statement is so true.
Fuck that!! Bone to bone would hurt WAY more that a boxing glove with force. You mean to tell me that a hand covered in a boxing glove would hurt more than a knee or elbow to the skull?? I'd much rather take a punch. Besides,boxing gloves are WAY thicker that ones used in Muay Thai...and i'm pretty sure most of the dudes can hit as hard IF NOT harder than Tyson...just sayin......
I think you are grossly underestimating how hard Tyson can hit.
I wasn't able to get an official psi. There were a few different numbers floating around. But here is a quote from yahoo answers
Close examination of Tyson's punches has shown that just one punch has the potential to knock out and hospitalize the average man. In fact the force of Tyson's knock out punch has an 85% chance of giving his opponent severe brain damage and is easily great enough to fracture any bone in the average human skull. In his research Dr Pain compares this to the average man, who has a 2% chance of inflicting this kind of injury - no wonder people fear the force of Iron Mike's fist."
Dr Pain.... Ha ha
Quote from: Variable on Oct 14, 2008, 09:48 AM
Quote from: tarkil on Oct 12, 2008, 01:21 PM
Since when are you bumping threads Trey ??
lol, it was on the front page.
Quote from: devilinside on Oct 13, 2008, 12:15 AM
Quote from: Variable on Oct 12, 2008, 10:31 AM
Quote from: 13hourstoparadise on Jan 12, 2008, 12:43 AM
Quote from: Teddy. on Aug 22, 2006, 06:45 PM
I heard muay thai had the hardest strikes
Most efftective! Boxing is hardest, Muay Thai is most effective... Ever caught an elbow... Now that hurts. But I would rather take an elbow off a unbalenced body then a straigh blow from Tyson...
everything about this statement is so true.
Fuck that!! Bone to bone would hurt WAY more that a boxing glove with force. You mean to tell me that a hand covered in a boxing glove would hurt more than a knee or elbow to the skull?? I'd much rather take a punch. Besides,boxing gloves are WAY thicker that ones used in Muay Thai...and i'm pretty sure most of the dudes can hit as hard IF NOT harder than Tyson...just sayin......
I think you are grossly underestimating how hard Tyson can hit.
I wasn't able to get an official psi. There were a few different numbers floating around. But here is a quote from yahoo answers
Close examination of Tyson's punches has shown that just one punch has the potential to knock out and hospitalize the average man. In fact the force of Tyson's knock out punch has an 85% chance of giving his opponent severe brain damage and is easily great enough to fracture any bone in the average human skull. In his research Dr Pain compares this to the average man, who has a 2% chance of inflicting this kind of injury - no wonder people fear the force of Iron Mike's fist."
Well,I've watched shows where they have dummy's hooked up to machines,and they tested 4 MMA dudes,Tito Ortiz,Randy Couture,Rampage Jackson...and someone else....I'm nearly certain they can hit as hard,if not harder than Tyson. I think Tyson is old news. I'm gonna find the video about it. It was The History Channel...believe it was called Human Weapon. But again..I'm gonna find the video so I can show you the readings from their hits.
Here ya go
[youtube=425,350]jzYMX_3K_xE[/youtube]
[youtube=425,350]vwpWTHDox4Y[/youtube]
But I fucking HATE him.
hehe you shouldnt use this pseudo-scientific shit to prove anything. there is no such thing as a yellow energy flowing through your body. you just get more speed if you turn your hips before the punch and your wrist just a tiny moment right before your fist hits.
also what was the intention with the comparision between sumo guys and a punch? the puch is stronger because it hits with just two bones (of index finger and middle finger) if the mass of the sumo guy would focus on such a tiny space the comparison would be more fair imho.
and plz dont compare fighting styles. its just useless.
Compare fighting styles? Well... this is martial arts thread,and there are many different kinds. You may think it's useless,but each person has their own views as to which style is best.
the best for what aim? self defence? amazing looks or efficiency in a cage fight?
there is no such thing as a best style for each of the categories i named there. it all depends from the fighter and how he is able to use what he has learned in a certain situation.
The best martial art would be one that covers as many areas as possible while testing the techniques in as realistic a manner as safety permits.
The one martial art that attempts to do this the best is Dog Brothers Martial Arts since it's essentially Mixed Martial Arts with weapons. However, there are a bunch of styles that can serve you well. Basically, any martial art that has continuous sparring involved in its training will make you a better fighter. Stay away from martial arts that claim their techniques are too deadly to be tested as they are most likely full of shit.
Martial arts that get my seal of approval:
Judo, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Shodokan/Yoshinkan/Iwama Aikido, Muay Thai, Boxing, Wrestling, SAMBO, Sanda/Sanshou, Savate, Full Contact Karate styles, Kendo, Sumo, Filipino Martial Arts
Quote from: Nailec on Oct 26, 2008, 04:51 PM
hehe you shouldnt use this pseudo-scientific shit to prove anything. there is no such thing as a yellow energy flowing through your body. you just get more speed if you turn your hips before the punch and your wrist just a tiny moment right before your fist hits.
Yup. connedict energy using each pound of your body mass. I was well trained and have mastered the glassjaw knock out... That's why I don't train anymore, they kicked me out because I dropped some a-hole putting a sleeper hold on my brother in law. He lost quite a few teeth too.
If you're ever in Seattle and get near Pike Place Market you'll notice how steep the streets are, when I layed this guy out he slid all the way down the street, that was funny.
lol, thats awesome dude. Honestly, believe it or not, I hate fighting. I try to avoide a fight if I can. Probably because I got my ass kicked enough to feel bad for a guy if I am kicking his ass. Just looking at some dude all bloody and passed out on the ground because of me, makes me kind of sick.
But I am curious, how did you train for that?
Quote from: devilinside on Oct 14, 2008, 03:46 PM
Here ya go
[youtube=425,350]jzYMX_3K_xE[/youtube]
[youtube=425,350]vwpWTHDox4Y[/youtube]
But I fucking HATE him.
Sorry, I kind of forgot about this thread and the conversation we were having.
Thanks for those videos, I really enjoyed them. LoL I know you hate that guy, but he made me laugh. Hes just putting on a show. I did find it pretty interesting though. I'm not sure if it proved either of our points though. I mean, they showed a punch, not an elbow to the face. And then they said a body slam is the hardest hit in sports. I was just trying to say that a punch from tyson is a lot harder than what most of those MMA guys can do. But maybe I'm wrong. I just always thought that Tyson held the standard as a hard hitter.
Tyson is kind of a tard. But I just love how short he is ( I think 5'11 ) but he would still knock the fuck out of dudes way taller than him. I don't know how much he weighed, and I really dont care enough to look it up. But it had to be something like 230 with a real low body fat %. Dude was stocky as fuck. God dam, makes me want to hit the gym hard again. About.....4 months ago I weighed 195 with pretty low body fat. I'm 5'9. Yeah, it was awesome. Guys really handle you different when you are that stocky. I couldn't imagine putting on enough muscle to weigh 210 or 220........ now I'm probably 185 :( I need to go to the gym.
I like to watch mma fights,but I do get a bit queasy when I see the real things. Uugh. my baby daddy (lol) has been doin mma for almost a year now,he sticks mainly to grappling though. He's been to 2 tournaments and got first and second at both. Im just waiting for hm to sprout out those nasty ass cauliflower ears. *gags*
Quote from: Variable on Nov 14, 2008, 06:26 AM
Quote from: devilinside on Oct 14, 2008, 03:46 PM
Here ya go
[youtube=425,350]jzYMX_3K_xE[/youtube]
[youtube=425,350]vwpWTHDox4Y[/youtube]
But I fucking HATE him.
Sorry, I kind of forgot about this thread and the conversation we were having.
Thanks for those videos, I really enjoyed them. LoL I know you hate that guy, but he made me laugh. Hes just putting on a show. I did find it pretty interesting though. I'm not sure if it proved either of our points though. I mean, they showed a punch, not an elbow to the face. And then they said a body slam is the hardest hit in sports. I was just trying to say that a punch from tyson is a lot harder than what most of those MMA guys can do. But maybe I'm wrong. I just always thought that Tyson held the standard as a hard hitter.
Tyson is kind of a tard. But I just love how short he is ( I think 5'11 ) but he would still knock the fuck out of dudes way taller than him. I don't know how much he weighed, and I really dont care enough to look it up. But it had to be something like 230 with a real low body fat %. Dude was stocky as fuck. God dam, makes me want to hit the gym hard again. About.....4 months ago I weighed 195 with pretty low body fat. I'm 5'9. Yeah, it was awesome. Guys really handle you different when you are that stocky. I couldn't imagine putting on enough muscle to weigh 210 or 220........ now I'm probably 185 :( I need to go to the gym.
Tyson more than likely, had more punching power than your average pro MMA fighter. Punching is all he did for a living, so it stands to reason that a specialist would be better than a generalist.
Although, trying to compare a Boxer to a Mixed Martial Artist is kind of pointless. A pro boxer will most likely beat a pro MMA fighter in a boxing match and vice versa. The skill sets are related but not the same. For instance, the footwork and stance of a boxer is different than that seen in MMA. Boxers often take an almost perpendicular to their opponent stance where that would get you murdered in MMA. You have to worry about more than punches in MMA and leaving yourself angled that way would easily set you up for a takedown (you have a more squared up stance in MMA). And even a mediocre MMA fighter would probably be able to beat the best boxer under MMA rules. If his opponent had no takedown/submission defense it would be easy pickings.
I dont think we were really comparing boxing and MMA. That seems pretty obvious. Just talking about hard hits.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3K-mrlYG7Y&feature=PlayList&p=D68E984B82E8952D&index=0
ahahahaha this guy is sooo funny.
though his "self defence" is a bit over the top and is way too violent
http://video.web.de/watch/6515728/Parkour_Gott
most awesome parkour-guy i have seen so far.
i love parkour/ free running. that guy is really fucking good. here is another dude's video, pretty good shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2kJZOfq7zk