Deftones sold almost 20k more albums on kny then korn latest wack ass album.Chino must be laughing his ass off ! 8)
there is no deftones vs korn. 2 completely different bands. korn needs to keep doing that embarrising shit to prove how much those meth heads have always sucked even after worshiping their white god, or whatever head was trying to do.
korn sells more, easier to market and they were willing to let that be the focal point of being a band. making money. good for them.
now let the soul music of deftones reign supreme like always.
Deftones 65k KNY vs PS korny 46k and of course Los deftones have always been better!! :o
Deftones are in another league to Korn, Korn are alright but they don't have the same range or level of creativity, their just not artists in the same sense as deftones, they really only have one sound that works for them which is the style of their earlier stuff with simple heavy guitar and whispering to shouting lyrics everytime they've tried a different formula they've failed miserably, deftones have managed to consistently blend to genres in ways korn havn't. Its sort of like a good and band example on how so called nu-metal bands should adapt and mature during their career, deftones are getting wide praise for their new stuff while Korns newer material just gets people wishing they would get back to their roots, they basically peaked with their first couple of albums.
The reason I did the whole vs thing is because they will always be connected to the nu metal pioneers /survivors.all other bands are pretty much done except LP ,slipknot/disturbedbut they suck dikk! fuckk those last 3bands btw ,Il take chevelle anyday before those wack muthafukas
Korn is just gringeworthy, especially the korny/cringeworthy lyrics Jon Davis comes up with.
Example: I don't ever want to multiply, 'Cause deep inside I'm not qualified. - Never never from the Paradigm Shift
Could you make anything more cringeworthy than that? Or just listen to there untitled album where Korn just went completely overboard with their silly lyrical themes.
Their new album also has alot of commercial chorusses just like they always have and Jon does no effort whatsoever to NOT sound ridiculous when he sings them.
I'll just leave this here:
Korn - Evolution (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8fm3Z7jgWM#ws)
When your lyrics are about monkeys you basically lost, face it.
I have to admit I liked korn when I was younger like 12/13 for the same reason I liked SOAD it felt like I was being edgy but now when I hear korn I fucking hate Jonathons voice it's so abrasive which I don't mind but it also lacks power and any beauty it's jsut gargle, I basically can't listen to it nowadays because it kills songs for me, this was really made clear when I decided to watch "make me bad" from the unplugged series they did because it had Robert Smith from the cure as a guest and I thought it would be interesting, and it was Robert is really good but then Johnathon sings and he sounds fucking horrible because of the contrasting effect Roberts good voice has, watch the part where they start the cure song, Robert sings beautifully and then Johnathan joins in and sounds like a fucking frog or something.
http://youtu.be/-d1lQxreiFQ (http://youtu.be/-d1lQxreiFQ)
Quote from: Capt Snow on Nov 23, 2013, 11:09 AM
Korn is just gringeworthy, especially the korny/cringeworthy lyrics Jon Davis comes up with.
Example: I don't ever want to multiply, 'Cause deep inside I'm not qualified. - Never never from the Paradigm Shift
Could you make anything more cringeworthy than that? Or just listen to there untitled album where Korn just went completely overboard with their silly lyrical themes.
Their new album also has alot of commercial chorusses just like they always have and Jon does no effort whatsoever to NOT sound ridiculous when he sings them.
I'll just leave this here:
Korn - Evolution (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8fm3Z7jgWM#ws)
When your lyrics are about monkeys you basically lost, face it.
Spot on,Korn another biased, ignorant and uninformed pseudo-intellectual posing as a "band"
First songs about monkeys to sound pseudo-intellectual, then they contradict themselves, and shows how intellectuals they are with songs like Politics
"Everyone's corrupt
You should just shut up
Don't wanna talk about politics"
Korn - Politics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-MMZX27nUo#ws)
Then songs about Illuminati haha, You can't sound more stupid.
"Why can't you just be honest
The corruption takes its toll
You rape our hope"
Korn- Illuminati(Feat. Excision and Downlink)[CD Quality] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd18Y5PDIh4#)
For years and years, I've heard the same tired cliche' bullshit, Sad part is, you're trying to sound smart and yet you have channelled the ignorance of every teenager that you've interviewed for inspiration for the lyircs on your records and therefore sound like an idiot, SELL OUT.
Korn has talent but they can't be compared to real musicians like Deftones that stay true to their message and roots, when korn looks like they only think about money , When one day, you sell something because has trendy then you sold another to follow the tendencies , Only consumed by hot topic scene kids, you have already lost it. korn sucks ass compared to DEFTONES
Quote from: people are people on Nov 23, 2013, 01:18 PM
Spot on,Korn another biased, ignorant and uninformed pseudo-intellectual posing as a "band"
First songs about monkeys to sound pseudo-intellectual, then they contradict themselves, and shows how intellectuals they are with songs like Politics
"Everyone's corrupt
You should just shut up
Don't wanna talk about politics"
Korn - Politics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-MMZX27nUo#ws)
Spot on example of a silly commercial chorus by Jon Davis. And I agree the rest of the band has some talent but Jon Davis takes a complete shit on that with his annoying voice.
I would call this a tie, but after Korn's last few albums (except for The Paradigm Shift), were crap, especially The Path of Totality, Deftones wins.
In my opinion Korn lost it a long time ago, I used to be a huge fan, I wouldn't even call myself a fan now.
Korn 1994-1999 r.i.piss
Korn sucked after the first three albums and then made a dubstep album no bueno
they're just weird.
plus jon was sporting ron paul and following the new trend of hating Obama so fuck him and that stupid band.
I'm not even going to watch. just the fact they have nerve to cover the same song as the deftones is silly. there's a lot of dark songs on RIO, if they wanna follow that path.
This is actually a great topic to shine the light on how the artistry in ATF and WP got overshadowed by KoRn's (and other big bands at the time) stadium status. Then KoRn lost popularity, yet Deftones still managed to make decent albums and let their fan-base grow. It's crazy to think how both of these bands are from shitty cities in California, yet they both became WORLDWIDE famous bands. The winner is definitely Deftones.
This is the dumbest thread ever. You guys must have no lives.
Quote from: therealdaebat on Dec 02, 2013, 01:43 PM
This is the dumbest thread ever. You guys must have no lives.
why post here then?U wasted 1min of your important life
Korn 1999 r.i p :o vs DEFTONES 2006 r.i.p stay classy deftones 8)
both bands suck shit now. before you shit on Korn, remember the Deftones were the ones who promoted and toured with the mega fag nu metal band known as Incubus in 2000
never heard anyone apart from you ever refer to Incubus as nu-metal, also morning view was an alright album.
And yet you are still on a site made for a band you hate. You are one pathetic bitch.
Quote from: elite54 on Dec 03, 2013, 12:34 AM
And yet you are still on a site made for a band you hate. You are one pathetic bitch.
yeah I don't get why those people are still here either, just move on already if you don't like it thats fine but there's no need for you to come back all the time for the specific reason of telling we have bad tastes.
Incubus was pretty awesome back in the day. The Deftones have aged respectfully. Their name carries quite a bit of cred. Can't say that for Korn, Limp Bizkit, or any other band that screamed their lil heads off back in 2000.
Quote from: jaypayton on Dec 03, 2013, 12:11 AM
both bands suck shit now. before you shit on Korn, remember the Deftones were the ones who promoted and toured with the mega fag nu metal band known as Incubus in 2000
they haven't even promoted themselves.
yeah they went on tour with everyone and found your lost father too.
Incubus put out SCIENCE which is one of the best albums of our generation. After that they put out half acoustic crap and the other half was actually decent. You'd be surprised at how much early Incubus sounded like early deftones (even the chi screams). As far as all three go they all had a great couple 'nu metal' albums (which isn't accurate at all but whatever) and then they all went in a different direction. KoRn desperately tries to collab or change their sound. Deftones went dreamscape metal after self titled and Incubus just plain sold their souls. Brandon Boyd turned into a literal vagina and lets his record company give him the shocker 24/7 while he counts his hundred dolla bills ya'll (shit... limp bizkit).
all you need to know about Deftones vs Korn is Chino > Jonathan
I feel sick when people talk shit about serj tankian for example and brandon boyd...
Right, Brandon Boyd turned into a literal vagina and lets his record company give him the shocker 24/7 while he counts his hundred dolla bills ya'll...thats why he spent many years sharing ideas of service and charity with the listeners. Thankfully his musical ideas tickled their ears and hearts, and with their support Incubus have raised more than $1 million via the Make Yourself Foundation, their nonprofit established in 2003 which has donated funds to amazing charitable organizations,You can dislike Incubus and some albums are bad or call whatever you want to Brandon Boyd but never a fucking sell out, they are true musicians with a good intent and they stay true to their message since the beggining. Before you shit on Incubus, label them as nu-metal and try offend them calling them mega fags.
I'll just leave this here:
KoRn - Jonathan Davis - gay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8Qi8VrQCUg#)
Quote from: therealdaebat on Dec 03, 2013, 08:35 PM
Incubus put out SCIENCE which is one of the best albums of our generation. After that they put out half acoustic crap and the other half was actually decent.
I think that Incubus' albums after SCIENCE are still pretty good, with the exception of their latest one. I'd even say that Morning View and ACLOTM are actually better than SCIENCE
(http://img3.rnkr-static.com/list_img/281/540281/C300/the-very-best-of-the-confession-bear-meme.jpg)
That's more of an unpopular opinion puffin than a confession bear.
(http://memecrunch.com/image/523b35861605fb34d2000026.jpg?w=400)
Also Korn hating has become so fucking tired. They're by no means a great band but really? Still? This conversation has been going on too long among Deftones fans.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Dec 05, 2013, 10:43 PM
That's more of an unpopular opinion puffin than a confession bear.
Wow, how could I not know that meme until now? But yeah, you're right...
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Dec 05, 2013, 10:56 PM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Dec 05, 2013, 10:43 PM
That's more of an unpopular opinion puffin than a confession bear.
Wow, how could I not know that meme until now? But yeah, you're right...
I do kind of agree with you on the Incubus thing though. I think ACLOTM is one of their best. After that it's all pretty bad though.
S.C.I.E.N.C.E, Make Yourself and Morning View are all really good. ACLOTM had some good songs, but was sort of spotty overall. Never checked out anything they did afterwards.
I thought Light Grenades was a good album. Not their best, but it was good. I will agree that If Not Now, When? sucks.
Science was dope album,make yourself was dope too!mourning view was ok only because I love the song Mexico 8)
Quote from: deftones47 on Dec 06, 2013, 02:15 AM
I thought Light Grenades was a good album. Not their best, but it was good. I will agree that If Not Now, When? sucks.
dude you need to smoke some weed! that was a great album!
I liked aclotm a lot too!
incubus definitely gets a nu metal pass. I'm not a fan of them but they sincerely make music.
Looks like its korn vs korn now wit all shit David ,korn's ex drummer said about fieldy on blabbermouth.net ,lol some classic shit talking
cmon deftones fans. expand your musical horizons. say deftones vs Depeche mode, or a comparable, similar sounding band like that.
What? Korn and Deftones are alot more comparable than Deftones and Depeche Mode, they've ended up really different but they came up at the same time and toured together lots and had the same basic elements of heavy guitars, groovy drum and bass playing and the incorporation of a DJ, Depeche Mode on the other hand is a Nu-Wave band from another decade, whilst Depeche Mode and other similair bands like The Cure are awesome and have definitely influenced Deftones they are not comparable because they do completely different things musically and are only really similair in artistic spirit.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 29, 2013, 03:08 AM
What? Korn and Deftones are alot more comparable than Deftones and Depeche Mode, they've ended up really different but they came up at the same time and toured together lots and had the same basic elements of heavy guitars, groovy drum and bass playing and the incorporation of a DJ, Depeche Mode on the other hand is a Nu-Wave band from another decade, whilst Depeche Mode and other similair bands like The Cure are awesome and have definitely influenced Deftones they are not comparable because they do completely different things musically and are only really similair in artistic spirit.
yea wat the homie said!! Northern Cali BayArea707/209
seriously thou wat other bands from the 90s are still around that are finishing their career wit class?? Give me sum names people??Old school def fans might not like the last 3 records,but they are very descent albums!! 8)
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 29, 2013, 03:08 AM
What? Korn and Deftones are alot more comparable than Deftones and Depeche Mode, they've ended up really different but they came up at the same time and toured together lots and had the same basic elements of heavy guitars, groovy drum and bass playing and the incorporation of a DJ, Depeche Mode on the other hand is a Nu-Wave band from another decade, whilst Depeche Mode and other similair bands like The Cure are awesome and have definitely influenced Deftones they are not comparable because they do completely different things musically and are only really similair in artistic spirit.
your opinions are as dry as your personality. its not like you actually listen to the music anyway. because if you did you'd be singing an entirely different tune.
Just get fucked mate you said something absurd and I pointed out it made no sense and really don't bother starting with the whole "you're not listening properly only I am obviously hearing it the right way" bullshit again I have seen you do this many times now and sorry princess despite what you believe you don't have magical ears, I don't think I'm the only one who disregards the majority of what you say because your biggest argument is others just can't listen properly, it's just condescending bullshit you constantly provide no real reasons for your views, you made a post with no real logic and I replied not by insulting you but by pointing out the larger number of paralells between Korn and Deftones compared to Deftones and Depeche Mode and instead of making any attempt at forming an intelligent reply you just went at me personally, you've really got some growing up to do.
Actually, I have a completely different opinion than almost everybody on this thread. I feel that in regards to which is better by me, it would be Korn, Incubus and finally Deftones. I only really liked White Pony. I love all of the Korn albums to this day (yes, even the dubstep one). People always complain about the way Korn "sells out" and then they bring up Path of Totality (the dubstep album) not thinking about that key thing that makes Korn, Korn. Right from the start they stated that they would make music that they wanted to make, hell, they pioneered a completely new genre. So what if they have some stupid or contradictory songs? Name me one artist or band that doesn't. I bet if you listen to Deftones close enough, you'll find some stupid or non nonsensical lines (ie; most of White Pony lol). I also happen to love Jon Davis' voice, and find Chinos' vox to be quite whiny, but I would have to say that Brandon (vocalist from Incubus) has both Jon and Chino beat. Thats all, bring on all the hate!!!!
nah no hate you're entitled to your opinion just kind of weird how made the effort to do this
I made the effort because Korn is actually my favorite band, and has been since they came out (I'm 26 now). Everybody was harshing on them and I decided to stand up for them I suppose.
nobody cares about your shitty band m8
Quote from: darkjuice on Apr 10, 2014, 10:10 AM
I made the effort because Korn is actually my favorite band, and has been since they came out (I'm 26 now). Everybody was harshing on them and I decided to stand up for them I suppose.
You've been into Korn since you were 5 ? That's OG.
Quote from: darkjuice on Apr 07, 2014, 08:47 AM
but I would have to say that Brandon (vocalist from Incubus) has both Jon and Chino beat. Thats all, bring on all the hate!!!!
And here's Brandon killing it with Incubus. Oh wait........
Michelle Williams & Brandon Boyd - Jesus Christ Superstar - GMA 4-4-14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgn3EtlPD4c#ws)
Quote from: defsteve on Apr 10, 2014, 06:48 PM
And here's Brandon killing it with Incubus. Oh wait........
Michelle Williams & Brandon Boyd - Jesus Christ Superstar - GMA 4-4-14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgn3EtlPD4c#ws)
What...the...hell...
Quote from: defsteve on Apr 10, 2014, 06:48 PM
Quote from: darkjuice on Apr 10, 2014, 10:10 AM
I made the effort because Korn is actually my favorite band, and has been since they came out (I'm 26 now). Everybody was harshing on them and I decided to stand up for them I suppose.
You've been into Korn since you were 5 ? That's OG.
Quote from: darkjuice on Apr 07, 2014, 08:47 AM
but I would have to say that Brandon (vocalist from Incubus) has both Jon and Chino beat. Thats all, bring on all the hate!!!!
And here's Brandon killing it with Incubus. Oh wait........
Michelle Williams & Brandon Boyd - Jesus Christ Superstar - GMA 4-4-14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgn3EtlPD4c#ws)
I could have gone the rest of my life without seeing that...damn.
That's fucked up. Why did you make me watch this ?
What the fuck.........................
Sorry, I don't really know how to quote but I'll answer all the hate mail LOL
Penicks writes: nobody cares about your shitty band m8
- I can't even respond to that because there wasn't any substance to that comment at all. Cool story bro?
defsteve writes: You've been into Korn since you were 5 ? That's OG.
- That would have been clever if you bother to take a look at when their first album came out (1994) as a seven year old at the time, I could not get their demo (1993). My older sister got me into them. By the way, love the username kid; def(tones)steve, now that is clever! hahaha :P
defsteve also writes: And here's Brandon killing it with Incubus. Oh wait........
- Everybody has bad days my friend, I think his other countless performances speak for themselves. What you have done here is find a video depicting a horrible job at whatever he is doing (I didn't actually take the time to watch it). Let us not forget some of the songs from Deftones utilizing shrill, screechy noises that one would think would come from a mouse or rat (about 3:31 into Knife Party).
Having said all that, I like Deftones but I like Korn more. I didn't like everyone bashing my favorite band just as much as you don't like someone bashing Deftones, so I stepped in just like any of you would have stepped in for Deftones.
So, after watching that video, it really doesn't prove that he is not a good singer. I actually haven't a clue as to what you were trying to prove that pertains to the present conversation. I think you may disagree with the content that he may have been presenting, but his voice is still quite uncanny in that video. May you please explain to me why vocally, he's not "killing" it?
just for future that part in knife Party isn't even Chino it's a female singer Rodleen Getsic
i cant believe this is the only active topic in all this forum, what a fucking shame.
every old time was better, close this shit up.
I agree that Brandon has the "better" voice in the classical sense over Chino. As a full all-around vocalist, however, I prefer Chino. While one may argue that Brandon has the prettier voice, I prefer the range that Chino has. His singing, his screaming, and everything else in between. I feel that Brandon is more of a one-trick pony at this point in his career, and only has one gear.
Incubus is my second favorite band, after Deftones of course, and I love nearly their entire catalog (especially SCIENCE, holy wow!). My one gripe is that while Deftones have remained true to form, Incubus has completely taken a turn for the worse. I can't stand If Not Now, When?, it is nothing like the Incubus I know and love. In fact, every album I feel has gotten worse and worse, with less and less songs seeming interesting to me. Meanwhile, although Koi No Yokan doesn't exactly sound like their old material by any means, they still interest me and are not as boring as the new Incubus.
Korn has always been meh to me. Nothing too special, but not terrible. I don't know any song off the dubstep album except Get Up, and I do like that song quite a bit. I like their older stuff off Issues and Follow the Leader, but other than that they never really stood the test of time.
I loved KoRn as a teenager. Deftones was a band I knew from the single Change, but I was never interested in checking them out at that time.
'Take a Look in the Mirror' was the last album I bought, but I think I did not even listen to that one that much.
I remember there being a quote from Chino going around that he said J. Davis should grow up, because his lyrics still dealt with being a teenager and puberty.
Life is peachy is dope,IMO their best album to date!Deftones all day baby!! :P
korn has never had a chance- and as I recall this is a "tones forum, not rotting korn forum, id rather listen to nickelback than korn, Id rather listen Obama than korn.
korn sucks very large purple chino balls.
in all seriousness if any of you think that these two bands are in the same league then you are a certifiable nut ball.
Quote from: dictatesofreason on May 11, 2014, 09:29 PM
korn has never had a chance- and as I recall this is a "tones forum, not rotting korn forum, id rather listen to nickelback than korn, Id rather listen Obama than korn.
korn sucks very large purple chino balls.
in all seriousness if any of you think that these two bands are in the same league then you are a certifiable nut ball.
This may be the post of the year....
I can't believe its 2014 and people are still having conversations like this LOL... wow