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Title: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: Tempest2012 on Oct 07, 2012, 05:58 AM
So is it Knife Party of Knife Prty? I am on Last.fm and there are pages for both of them so I was just curious which one is the correct one.
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: dictatesofreason on Oct 07, 2012, 06:01 AM
Its Knife Party, the misspell on the liner is just that. Just like MX is Macks and the untitled on adrenaline is FIST.
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: Tempest2012 on Oct 07, 2012, 06:04 AM
That's funny. Knife Prty actually has more listens on there.
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: m1nusblindfoLd on Oct 07, 2012, 06:27 AM
What do you mean the misspelling of it on the liner/CD back is just a misspelling? What else would you go by? How does that not officially make it Knife Prty?

I highly doubt there would be a misspelling there anyway, especially on multiple versions of the album...

Plus it's cooler lol.


And where is Mx called Macks/Max? I read that it was originally called Max because of the similarity in music to Soulfly (Max Cavalera), but that's it..
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: dictatesofreason on Oct 07, 2012, 08:09 AM
as for Macks-its on deftonesworld, and when the band annouces that they are going to "play knife party next" im pretty sure chino is saying NIFE PARRRTEE, not NIFE PERTY. It dosent matter anyway, cuz we all die anyway...
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: m1nusblindfoLd on Oct 07, 2012, 08:16 AM
What?? Just because it's Knife Prty doesn't mean you have to pronounce it weird or differently. The phonetics would stay the same- they just wanted it to look weird visibly I think...

Just one of those things....
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: slyartwork on Oct 07, 2012, 11:31 AM
It's Knife Prty, it's on all records artwork! Even on re-issues so no doubt....
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: ignore the fashion on Oct 07, 2012, 03:18 PM
I have multiple copies of white pony and I believe they all have it spelled Knife Prty on all of them, so that is what I would go with.
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: ltdef on Oct 07, 2012, 03:59 PM
My europe/german copy is "Party".
But I would even spell "Party" when it says "Prty" on the record, because (intentional or not) its a mistake...
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: slyartwork on Oct 07, 2012, 05:07 PM
I have cassettes, CD's and more, both from the USA, Europe as well as Asian pressings, they all have Knife Prty....

You must have bought a re-issue 5 years ago when you discovered Deftones ;-)
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: slyartwork on Oct 07, 2012, 05:31 PM
Just kidding but since they changed the title on later pressings I assume Party is the right title.
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: Tempest2012 on Oct 07, 2012, 06:41 PM
I got my copy of 'White Pony' the other day and it says Prty.
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: dictatesofreason on Oct 07, 2012, 07:26 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 07, 2012, 11:28 AM...
ya man. forgot about that. damn bats.
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: Alectwin on Oct 08, 2012, 10:16 AM
It is "Knife prty" on my red limited edition of 2000.

(http://s11.postimage.org/u19cp359u/2012_10_08_12_12_00.jpg)
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: N0S3BLEED976 on Oct 08, 2012, 12:25 PM
It's "Prty" on my LP and "Party" on my CD. Weird.
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: slyartwork on Oct 08, 2012, 12:29 PM
V, seriously all pressings have Knife Prty, I want your version with Knife Party, for my collection... you got the silver one?

Here's a bootleg artwork when WP leaked, most original titles on it:

(http://filestar.czweb.org/covers/last03/deftones_the_white_pony_BACK.jpg)
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: slyartwork on Oct 08, 2012, 12:31 PM
Party on this CD:

(http://www.soundstation.dk/images/products/large/32/131832-b.jpg)
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: slyartwork on Oct 08, 2012, 12:34 PM
Prty on this one:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41nDB1w68BL.jpg)
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: Tempest2012 on Oct 08, 2012, 12:39 PM
Quote from: slyartwork on Oct 08, 2012, 12:31 PM
Party on this CD:

(http://www.soundstation.dk/images/products/large/32/131832-b.jpg)
My back cover looks exactly the same but it says Prty.
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: slyartwork on Oct 08, 2012, 12:51 PM
So, it's pretty clear: they were repressed and the title was changed into Party.... Weird the LP re-issue still says Prty though...
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: Caín on Oct 08, 2012, 01:08 PM
It was changed to Prty in the early days because of worries Walmart might not carry the CD if it were Knife Party.

True story.
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: slyartwork on Oct 08, 2012, 01:21 PM
My god! That's it, totally forgot about that! All because of Wallmart!
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: Tempest2012 on Oct 08, 2012, 01:35 PM
Quote from: Caín on Oct 08, 2012, 01:08 PM
It was changed to Prty in the early days because of worries Walmart might not carry the CD if it were Knife Party.

True story.
Yeah but that still doesn't explain why a reissue of the album that I bought from Amazon brand new has the same issue.
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: ignore the fashion on Oct 08, 2012, 03:19 PM
Quote from: Caín on Oct 08, 2012, 01:08 PM
It was changed to Prty in the early days because of worries Walmart might not carry the CD if it were Knife Party.

True story.


Really? Never heard that before.
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: Tempest2012 on Oct 08, 2012, 03:46 PM
Quote from: Tempest2012 on Oct 08, 2012, 01:35 PM
Quote from: Caín on Oct 08, 2012, 01:08 PM
It was changed to Prty in the early days because of worries Walmart might not carry the CD if it were Knife Party.

True story.
Yeah but that still doesn't explain why a reissue of the album that I bought from Amazon brand new has the same issue.
Not to mention this was days ago...
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: dictatesofreason on Oct 08, 2012, 04:19 PM
Quote from: slyartwork on Oct 08, 2012, 01:21 PM
My god! That's it, totally forgot about that! All because of Wallmart!

GOOD GOD MAN!
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: nineteen on Oct 08, 2012, 07:46 PM
Quote from: slyartwork on Oct 08, 2012, 12:29 PM
V, seriously all pressings have Knife Prty, I want your version with Knife Party, for my collection... you got the silver one?

Here's a bootleg artwork when WP leaked, most original titles on it:

(http://filestar.czweb.org/covers/last03/deftones_the_white_pony_BACK.jpg)

Holy shitballs that brings back some memories. I used to love the name Iceskates.

Forgot about that Walmart story too!
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: Playhouse on Oct 08, 2012, 08:15 PM
Quote from: nineteen on Oct 08, 2012, 07:46 PM
Quote from: slyartwork on Oct 08, 2012, 12:29 PM
V, seriously all pressings have Knife Prty, I want your version with Knife Party, for my collection... you got the silver one?

Here's a bootleg artwork when WP leaked, most original titles on it:

(http://filestar.czweb.org/covers/last03/deftones_the_white_pony_BACK.jpg)

Holy shitballs that brings back some memories. I used to love the name Iceskates.

Forgot about that Walmart story too!
fuck iv never seen that before.
Can someone tell me what each song is
Iceskates?
New Murderer?
White Pony?
Nightrider?
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: defburn on Oct 08, 2012, 08:32 PM
Here all the WP version               prty and party



http://deftones-archives.com/disco.php (http://deftones-archives.com/disco.php)
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: beansandcornbread on Oct 09, 2012, 12:05 AM
Those mf'ers love skating huh?  Iceskates, Rocket Skates, Rollerderby. 
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: nineteen on Oct 09, 2012, 08:51 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 09, 2012, 07:10 AM...

I think it became Rx Queen?
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: Penicks on Oct 09, 2012, 08:57 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 09, 2012, 07:10 AM...

that's what i thought but feiticeira is already on the list
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: Alectwin on Oct 09, 2012, 09:00 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 09, 2012, 07:10 AM...

Feticeira it's 7 songs down, so it can't be...
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: Caín on Oct 09, 2012, 09:12 AM
Quote from: Alectwin on Oct 09, 2012, 09:00 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 09, 2012, 07:10 AM...

Feticeira it's 7 songs down, so it can't be...

It's the same running order as on the final release. 100%.

new murderer: feiticeira
nightrider: digital bath
elite: elite
iceskates: rx queen
white pony: street carp
digital bath: teenager
knife party at the niko: knife prty
feiticeira: korea
passenger: passenger
change: change
pink maggit: now this is where it gets interesting. the leak I had had the back to school version of pink maggit. and this was a month before release! how this is possible, I don't know.
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: nineteen on Oct 09, 2012, 09:18 AM
Quote from: Caín on Oct 09, 2012, 09:12 AM
Quote from: Alectwin on Oct 09, 2012, 09:00 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 09, 2012, 07:10 AM...

Feticeira it's 7 songs down, so it can't be...

It's the same running order as on the final release. 100%.

new murderer: feiticeira
nightrider: digital bath
elite: elite
iceskates: rx queen
white pony: street carp
digital bath: teenager
knife party at the niko: knife prty
feiticeira: korea
passenger: passenger
change: change
pink maggit: now this is where it gets interesting. the leak I had had the back to school version of pink maggit. and this was a month before release! how this is possible, I don't know.

Jeez, so many forgotten memories coming back to me. Your tracklisting rings a bell.
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: from_musings on Oct 09, 2012, 02:40 PM
i actually thought they spelled it prty to make it look kewl. in the same way the spelled the song max "mx"
lose a letter to make it seem weirder
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: m1nusblindfoLd on Oct 09, 2012, 02:55 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 09, 2012, 02:40 PM
i actually thought they spelled it prty to make it look kewl. in the same way the spelled the song max "mx"
lose a letter to make it seem weirder

Exactly
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: slyartwork on Oct 09, 2012, 06:49 PM
Good to ask them about this some time....
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: VictorPL on Oct 09, 2012, 09:23 PM
Quote from: slyartwork on Oct 09, 2012, 06:49 PM
Good to ask them about this some time....

this is gonna sound stupid, but whats it like meeting them so many times? whats your relation with them like since youve been a fan so long and met them so many times? ever go to an after party with them or something? i ran into chino at a coffee shop in amsterdam a day before the concert and he was really cool, one of my best memories.
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: buddyboy101 on Oct 10, 2012, 03:08 AM
http://www.deftonesworld.com/weird.htm#leak (http://www.deftonesworld.com/weird.htm#leak)

    Pony's Leakage

This article was at the official BB. And apparently it came from a reliable source. It's about how White Pony got leaked and why there's different track names on Napster...

"The band only initially finished 12 tracks, and then finished Back to School over the summer making that 13 finished tracks for the White Pony sessions. If they had any leftover material, the band would have to go and finish it in the studio if they ever planned on releasing it. There's nothing really in the can right now. There's preliminary Team Sleep stuff being worked on and there's talk about a remix album. The only other things they did recently in the studio was work on some acoustic renditions of White Pony songs. Change acoustic was the only one they finished, and it was pretty much following the original version of the song. They started working on acoustic renditions of Digital Bath, Boy's Republic, and Knife Prty but didn't complete these tracks yet. These tracks were much more in the way of RADICAL REWORKINGS of them. There is an unfinished version of the Boy's Republic acoustic out there from those sessions, it remains unmixed, unfinished, and without vocals, and overdubs and whatever else the band needed to do to that song as well as Digital Bath and Knife Prty acoustic. Someone snuck a disc with that and the other unfinished tracks out of the studio and it was leaked by that way. Knife Prty and Digital Bath, did not get leaked however. One day these tracks may surface in a finished form as b-sides on singles, or if they have been reworked to the point that they would be deemed appropriate for inclusion on the proposed Black Stallion, then so be it.

NAPSTER TRACK TITLES:

- Flint Eastwood became Flint and then Change
- Pink Maggot, ... well is Pink Maggit
- CYUA - no idea, probably a working title for something that ended on White Pony
- Iceskates - I've heard a lot that this was RX Queen's working title
- Teenager was always called Teenager
- White Pony was the supposed name for Korea
- New Murderer was the working title for Feiticeira
- Webster was a working title for the Boy's Republic
- Knife Party at the Niko, was a much better title, but then became simply Knife Prty
- Timbaland was the working title for none other than Passenger, that is a fact, straight from Stef's mouth.
- Nightrider, working title for something they had, I don't think it was Digital Bath though even though early mp3's of it were mislabeled as Nightrider.

One last thing, in an early fan site review, i believe, the band said they had finished up 2 songs that were from Team Sleep and BOTH of them were going to turn up on White Pony. Now as we all know, only Teenager turned up on it. Some say that RX Queen may have originated from Team Sleep but the band has said otherwise saying it was something Chino and Abe made together halfway through the album's sessions, as opposed to the various Team Sleep recording sessions the previous year.

BTW White Pony was leaked to the internet starting April 26, but it wasn't readily available until the 27th when it had been circulated to various FTP's and then eventually Napster."

(thanks to Brent Starr)
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: slyartwork on Oct 10, 2012, 04:46 AM
Quote from: VictorPL on Oct 09, 2012, 09:23 PM
Quote from: slyartwork on Oct 09, 2012, 06:49 PM
Good to ask them about this some time....

this is gonna sound stupid, but whats it like meeting them so many times? whats your relation with them like since youve been a fan so long and met them so many times? ever go to an after party with them or something? i ran into chino at a coffee shop in amsterdam a day before the concert and he was really cool, one of my best memories.

It's like meeting people who live their own lives. They all have been cool, especially in the early days but other than that it's nothing different for them then meeting other fans on a daily basis. In the early days they kind of knew who I was and remembered me but since they became 'bigger' they don't know who I am anymore. Still it's nice to meet them and ask some things about the band you always wanted to know.
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: Tempest2012 on Oct 10, 2012, 04:54 AM
Is Boy's Republic available anymore?
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: lithium on Oct 10, 2012, 04:59 AM
Black Stallion?
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: buddyboy101 on Oct 10, 2012, 05:17 AM
Quote from: lithium on Oct 10, 2012, 04:59 AM
Black Stallion?

http://defjef.tripod.com/news2.htm (http://defjef.tripod.com/news2.htm)

Black Stallion
Rumors are flying that deftones will bring about a remix album titled Black Stallion with plans to hire DJ Shadow (Josh Davis) and The Automator (Dan Nakamura) to remix White Pony in its entirely.
Thanks to thedeftones.com
08/09/00
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: lithium on Oct 10, 2012, 05:19 AM
Quote from: buddyboy101 on Oct 10, 2012, 05:17 AM
Quote from: lithium on Oct 10, 2012, 04:59 AM
Black Stallion?

http://defjef.tripod.com/news2.htm (http://defjef.tripod.com/news2.htm)

Black Stallion
Rumors are flying that deftones will bring about a remix album titled Black Stallion with plans to hire DJ Shadow (Josh Davis) and The Automator (Dan Nakamura) to remix White Pony in its entirely.
Thanks to thedeftones.com
08/09/00
That would have been awesome!!
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: dictatesofreason on Oct 11, 2012, 12:53 AM
Quote from: Tempest2012 on Oct 10, 2012, 04:54 AM
Is Boy's Republic available anymore?
ya pm me
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: FNatt on Oct 31, 2012, 10:12 PM
my copy says "Knife Party"
Title: Re: Knife Party or Knife Prty?
Post by: slyartwork on Nov 01, 2012, 06:04 AM
It's all cleared. First pressings have Knife Prty and later CD pressings say Knife Party.