I've heard people say from time to time that Radiohead was an influence to the Deftones but I can't find any quotes or info to confirm this. Anyone here have any links where any of the members mention liking Radiohead or listing them as an influence?
Deftones were influenced by The Cure, Bad Brains, The Smiths, My Bloody Valentine, Cocteau Twins, Duran Duran, The Smashing Pumpkins, Depeche Mode, Helmet, Jawbox, Faith No More, Mr. Bungle, Hum, Kool Keith, Tool, Jane's Addiction, Fear Factory, Meshuggah and Weezer. All the songs they covered on B Sides and Rarities were from their 'favorite' artists.
But I've never heard Radiohead was an influence on them. Although Radiohead has also cited some of the above bands as influences on them as well.
There's an interview with chino from the ATF era where he mentions that he wishes he could sing like thom or something. It may be from the Lola da musica thing. Romain most certainly has it somewhere on his YouTube channel.
I have read many times that Chino was a big Radiohead fan.
For example in this blind test (in french) : http://deftones-archives.com/images/divers/blindtestChino.jpg (http://deftones-archives.com/images/divers/blindtestChino.jpg)
Steph also said last year on that diamond eyes webcast that he would love to tour with radiohead.
I remember a quote where chino talks about finishing ATF and saying to himself "we did some good shit this time!" and then a week later Radiohead's record came out and they just wanted to pack their stuff and go home.
yeah i remember that... he said something like "man.. how's it even possible to do music like that?" about ok computer.all jealous and amazed at the same time. can't remember if it was a mp3 interview or from a magazine. good times though.. grady form will haven also praised ok computer back then
radiohead is awesome.saw them in atlanta on the in rainbows tour. i've gotten rid of a lot of my cds and started buying vinyl. they had radiohead at the music shop in town. needless to say, now i have most radiohead albums on wax.
what does everyone think of the king of limbs?
Deftones - TV special 1997 [Part 1 of 2] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xns3hbisRqI#)
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I'm sure I've heard them say that they like and listen to Radiohead so I'm sure some of their influence rubs off on them. I don't think it's a case of trying to copy or be like them, probably more of a subconscious, indirect thing. I'm sure though a lot of the stuff they listen to influences them, not just Radiohead.
It's weird how many Radiohead fans there are on this forum - so many Deftones fans seem to be Radiohead fans too! Of course there are some similarities in their music but you can find similarities in a lot of different music (for e.g I could find similarities between Neil Young and Kurt Cobain if I wanted too) but their styles really are quite different so I wonder why that is?
Must be confirmation on the good taste of Deftones fans ;D
To be honest I kind of lost interest in Radiohead for a while and started to long for the days of their earlier sounds but I gave Lotus Flower a listen the other day and really enjoyed it (the video is awesome too). It also made me realise how great Thom's voice is again so I think I'm going to give the recent albums I've missed a listen inc. King of Limbs. If the quality of the rest of KOL is anything like Lotus Flower it should be a great album.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jul 20, 2011, 05:15 PM
There's an interview with chino from the ATF era where he mentions that he wishes he could sing like thom or something. It may be from the Lola da musica thing. Romain most certainly has it somewhere on his YouTube channel.
I remember this as well, but IMO, Chino sounds better to me when he's at his best. Love Radiohead, but I think Deftones and Chino especially are more unique than Radiohead. My opinion...
Quote from: pinkmaggit on Jul 30, 2011, 06:24 PM
I'm sure I've heard them say that they like and listen to Radiohead so I'm sure some of their influence rubs off on them. I don't think it's a case of trying to copy or be like them, probably more of a subconscious, indirect thing. I'm sure though a lot of the stuff they listen to influences them, not just Radiohead.
It's weird how many Radiohead fans there are on this forum - so many Deftones fans seem to be Radiohead fans too! Of course there are some similarities in their music but you can find similarities in a lot of different music (for e.g I could find similarities between Neil Young and Kurt Cobain if I wanted too) but their styles really are quite different so I wonder why that is?
Must be confirmation on the good taste of Deftones fans ;D
To be honest I kind of lost interest in Radiohead for a while and started to long for the days of their earlier sounds but I gave Lotus Flower a listen the other day and really enjoyed it (the video is awesome too). It also made me realise how great Thom's voice is again so I think I'm going to give the recent albums I've missed a listen inc. King of Limbs. If the quality of the rest of KOL is anything like Lotus Flower it should be a great album.
I dont believe they try to sound directly like anyone either, consciously that is. I sometimes think Chino sort of in a way dresses (but not completely or directly) like some of the 80's n 90's frontmen like Depeche Modes' or The Cure's guys. Hard to explain but I think some others get that vibe as well, especially through the WP era.
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Jul 30, 2011, 10:08 PM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jul 20, 2011, 05:15 PM
There's an interview with chino from the ATF era where he mentions that he wishes he could sing like thom or something. It may be from the Lola da musica thing. Romain most certainly has it somewhere on his YouTube channel.
I remember this as well, but IMO, Chino sounds better to me when he's at his best. Love Radiohead, but I think Deftones and Chino especially are more unique than Radiohead. My opinion...
Agree with you completely.
I think ATF is a far better album than OK Computer and I think Chino's selling the Tones short if he said he wished they could sound like Radiohead.
Sorry Radiohead fans, Radiohead is a great band and Thom is a great singer. I can't listen to Thom's voice too much though - it's a bit too high and not that varied IMO in later albums, however I never tire of hearing Chino's voice - it really brings something special to the songs. I liked Radiohead the best during the 'Pablo Honey' and 'The Bends' era so I don't rate the experimentation that followed all that highly and it's not a path I'd like to see Deftones go down. To me the whole experimenting with electronics has become a bit cliche. It seems/seemed to be the thing to do with a lot of alternative bands - Smashing Pumpkins did it (Adore), Marilyn Manson did it,hell even Korn did it (See you on the Other Side) and when I listen to those and post Bends Radiohead albums they seem to have aged a lot more than the more organic albums. It seems more original now not to go down that route as it seems the expected route to go down.
In my opinion Deftones have experimented more with unusual song structures, which I think is much more difficult to get right, and put out some really special albums, so I hope that if they do experiment it will continue to be in this vein.
Although I like Radiohead, I love the Tones far more. To me they make the music they want to make and they make music that feels right to them at the time which I feel is better than sitting down and making a conscious decision to try and sound different by way of introducing electronic elements to the music and far more original.
Having said that, is it just me or does Crosses sound like it has a big Radiohead influence?
After reading this tread i found two things out:, 1. Deftones very probably don't draws influence from Radiohead and 2. most people posting here aren´t native english speakers, in the youtube video posted above Chino says:
"I really like women's voice(...) how it's pretty and they let themselves be heard you know, and i'm really into that , i want to do that in our records, it's gonna be hard you know, because a guy's voice is not really so sweet, and may think maybe Thom Yorke from Radiohead, these really sweet words one person can do; you know but i not really looking to do it, not figuring it you know, I'm solely trying to see what i can do, you know and no-and-don't anybody thinks too much more about it; i just wanna do what it feels, and that's how it feels, put in on tape"
Not sure if a video with Chino saying that he thinks that Thom Yorke voice is soft can be enough to point an infuence, especialy when Chino inmediately later states that he don't wants to sound like him, but trying to express his felings in a soft way like women does, and he don't wants anybody to think too much about it. In summary, he is just sugesting that both bands could have common influences.
I understand that there were been a confussion because i translated the dutch subtitles and they say something diferent of what Chino really said, and the fact that Chino speaks fast and don't order the words correctly makes even harder for foreigners to find out what he says, but if listened with attention, one can understand what he've said.
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Jul 20, 2011, 05:56 PM
I remember a quote where chino talks about finishing ATF and saying to himself "we did some good shit this time!" and then a week later Radiohead's record came out and they just wanted to pack their stuff and go home.
I don't think that Chino have said that, because Ok Computer came out like three monts before Around The Fur, also if Chino is that of a big Radiohead fan like the french magazine says, why he haven't said it yet to any english publication, always that asked about his favorite musicians/inflences he always says The Cure, Morrisey or Depeche Mode, well he likes Hum, M83 and Portishead too, with the two later having a notable influence on his band Crosses.
Quote from: Black Horse on Jan 12, 2012, 03:41 AM
I don't think that Chino have said that, because Ok Computer came out like three monts before Around The Fur, also if Chino is that of a big Radiohead fan like the french magazine says, why he haven't said it yet to any english publication, always that asked about his favorite musicians/inflences he always says The Cure, Morrisey or Depeche Mode, well he likes Hum, M83 and Portishead too, with the two later having a notable influence on his band Crosses.
i've heard that interview, chino said this. also mentioned radiohead numerous of times at other occasions. just because you haven't heard it doesn't mean he never said it :)
Quote from: from_musings on Jan 12, 2012, 03:43 PM
i've heard that interview, chino said this. also mentioned radiohead numerous of times at other occasions. just because you haven't heard it doesn't mean he never said it :)
I don't know what to think, i mean if Chino is a big fan of Radiohead why is he in the video saying that he don't wants to sound like Yorke? stills, is a fact that Around the Fur came out after Ok Computer (28/10/97 and 16/06/97 respectivelly), Of course that i've heard people (NME journalists, of course u_u') saying things like that, and like one month ago i were browsing articles and i found one about Deftones that was just a copypasta from the Deftones' wikipedia article lead and musical syle paragraphs, the only thing that the author added was "also the band draws notable influence from the english rock band radiohead" near to the end. that was infact, what made me start to look for answers. I remember a similar situation from long ago when i was reading a magazine were Chino himself said that his Side-project (the band "Team Sleep") would sound like Portishead, but with his voice thrown in it. Like one week later, a website published a similar article, but instead of publish what Chino said they posted: "Deftones frontman Chino Moreno says that the upcoming record of his side-project, the band Team Sleep would sound like Radiohead's Kid A album" all that without even mention that in the youtube interview Chino says that he don't wants to sound like Yorke, but in contrast the dutch subtitles says something like "Thom Yorke is one of the few who can sound so soft, and i want to sound like him" who gives'em the right to change what Chino have said? ???
What does ATF coming out after Ok Computer have to do with anything...?
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Jan 13, 2012, 02:56 AM
What does ATF coming out after Ok Computer have to do with anything...?
That a member above said that when Deftones finished and released Around the Fur Chino said "we made the things right this time" but then Ok Computer came out and he felt like "packing his stuff and going home" that couldn't be: Ok computer came out before than the Deftones Album.
Quote from: Black Horse on Jan 14, 2012, 03:35 AM
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Jan 13, 2012, 02:56 AM
What does ATF coming out after Ok Computer have to do with anything...?
That a member above said that when Deftones finished and released Around the Fur Chino said "we made the things right this time" but then Ok Computer came out and he felt like "packing his stuff and going home" that couldn't be: Ok computer came out before than the Deftones Album.
And you think albums are released the day they're completed...?
2 completely differrent bands!!! period! :) I hear and see no resemblance at all. A couple tracks on Team Sleep's record sound a little Radiohead-like but a lot of stuff can be similar. Not just Chino's music. Chino wouldn't be as successful trying to alter his voice to Thom's. A full length 10 track record is too much for me at once with Thom's high pitched singing (emo-like imo) where a Deftones' record to me isn't enough! Deftones have more range in style and structure to me. If anything, Radiohead sounds like more other bands than Deftones does, and that's a perfect example of what I'm trying to argue. ;)
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Jan 14, 2012, 05:05 AM
And you think albums are released the day they're completed...?
No, but it wasn´t specific about what finished meant, i just pointed that out in case. however, it doesn't matter at all.
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Jan 14, 2012, 08:51 PM
2 completely differrent bands!!! period! :) I hear and see no resemblance at all. A couple tracks on Team Sleep's record sound a little Radiohead-like but a lot of stuff can be similar. Not just Chino's music. Chino wouldn't be as successful trying to alter his voice to Thom's. A full length 10 track record is too much for me at once with Thom's high pitched singing (emo-like imo) where a Deftones' record to me isn't enough! Deftones have more range in style and structure to me. If anything, Radiohead sounds like more other bands than Deftones does, and that's a perfect example of what I'm trying to argue. ;)
I agree with you, i neither can stand Yorke's vocals, thery too high and that (imo) makes his voice sound forced, unnatural, in the other hand to hear Chino singing (specially in around the fur) is something of wich i can't get tired, he also not just does sporadic high notes, he also can sing, growl and scream like a master (hear self-titled if you doubt it.). Maybe Deftones don't tryes a different genre on each album, but they're are much more unique being themselves all the time.
I like Radiohead and Thom, just dont see any resemblances and have never until this thread thought about it at all. There's NOTHING. Thom runs to a bed and pulls the covers over his eyes when Deftones wails over the speakers. Chino smokes a joint and chills out to a cpl Radiohead tracks. In fact he is probably the only Deftone who might listen to RH every once in a while. Maybe Frank but who knows n who cares. Deftones r Deftones. Radiohead is well, ehh Radiohead
I can see and understand the Deftones having a Radiohead influence, even if they haven't directly said "Radiohead is an influence of ours". With the release of White Pony, to me, the Deftones went to a different plane, where they were no longer a staple in Nu Metal, but started becoming timeless.
Musical influences work in a very strange way. It could be the whole band, their sound, a riff, a particular musician, what the band stands for, or how you relate to the band.
Something Tom Morello mentioned in an interview helped put my thought on the subject into words... something along the lines of "I took that Stadium Rock and channeled it through the filter of punk rock". A lot of people don't realize influences aren't just simple, they are way more complex. Some just view it as, oh you're influenced by Steve Vai and automatically imagine you're at home learning his shit. Not that it might excite you to pursue your own sound/style.
Still don't believe Radiohead is among their influences really. Them becoming "timeless" w WP had nothing to do with Radiohead. I will say that I thought abt it and realized "Teenager" the WP version is very Radiohead like but idk, don't think so.
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Jan 19, 2012, 10:02 PM
I thought abt it and realized "Teenager" the WP version is very Radiohead like but idk, don't think so.
How if Thom were been the first man on earth that sings with high voice.
Quote from: Black Horse on Jan 22, 2012, 04:47 AM
How if Thom were been the first man on earth that sings with high voice.
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Quote from: Vesanic on Jan 22, 2012, 05:23 AM
Quote from: Black Horse on Jan 22, 2012, 04:47 AM
How if Thom were been the first man on earth that sings with high voice.
As if, i forgot had also, this is what happens when one post in 4 different forums simultaneously
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Deftones vs Radiohead - Sextape Creep (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUUc8LtqDRc#)
Who made that monstrosity lol ,they don't go together at all. I also don't think Deftones are inspired by Radiohead just because they like them it doesn't mean they are influenced by them,i can't see any aspects of radiohead in Deftones music at all
I remember an interview where steph mentioned h wouldlove to tour with radiohead
radioheads in rainbow album is one beast of a record tho
Quote from: hi man on Nov 04, 2012, 06:23 AM
I remember an interview where steph mentioned h wouldlove to tour with radiohead
Yeah i think that was at the Diamond Eyes webcast
Haha not sure, I just found it on YouTube.
Quote from: ruinfix on Nov 04, 2012, 06:50 AM
Haha not sure, I just found it on YouTube.
was Stephen hiding behind a tree? lol
I'm a huge radiohead and deftones fan and I can say that they're just two different bands. Radiohead is art and Deftones is music. You jam to deftones and you listen to radiohead (pardon the shitty wording). Just my opinion.
amen
Quote from: ruinfix on Nov 04, 2012, 05:11 AM
Deftones vs Radiohead - Sextape Creep (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUUc8LtqDRc#)
lol thanks for this.
Quote from: therealdaebat on Nov 05, 2012, 01:55 PM
I'm a huge radiohead and deftones fan and I can say that they're just two different bands. Radiohead is art and Deftones is music. You jam to deftones and you listen to radiohead (pardon the shitty wording). Just my opinion.
Agreed. Radiohead = Genius. Deftones= badass but not intellecually on the same plane as Radiohead. Then again, few bands are.
I think somehow Deftones were influenced by Radiohead's experimental side, actually Radiohead influenced a lot of bands.
QuoteRadiohead = Genius. Deftones= badass but not intellecually on the same plane as Radiohead.
I don't really agree, Deftones music is as clever as Radiohead one.
Deftones are mostly influenced by Mcdonalds, Burger King and Wendy's respectably. Chino himself has said this many, many times.
Quote from: xToxin on Nov 07, 2012, 11:11 AM
Deftones are mostly influenced by Mcdonalds, Burger King and Wendy's respectably. Chino himself has said this many, many times.
Those are good influences too.
Quote from: CarloDefDonno on Nov 07, 2012, 11:08 AM
I think somehow Deftones were influenced by Radiohead's experimental side, actually Radiohead influenced a lot of bands.
QuoteRadiohead = Genius. Deftones= badass but not intellecually on the same plane as Radiohead.
I don't really agree, Deftones music is as clever as Radiohead one.
Not even close dude. Have you listened to all of Radiohead's stuff? They have some stuff that just seems impossible to come up with. Chino has said so himself.
http://www.lastfm.it/user/CarloDeDonno (http://www.lastfm.it/user/CarloDeDonno)
You can see here that I dig Radiohead stuff, especially their weirdest material. I think it's just a way of making music, it's clever and genius, but I don't think Deftones music is dumb, it's just less weird and complex, but their song feature an intelligent songwriting.
Quote from: CarloDefDonno on Nov 07, 2012, 02:30 PM
http://www.lastfm.it/user/CarloDeDonno (http://www.lastfm.it/user/CarloDeDonno)
You can see here that I dig Radiohead stuff, especially their weirdest material. I think it's just a way of making music, it's clever and genius, but I don't think Deftones music is dumb, it's just less weird and complex, but their song feature an intelligent songwriting.
Maybe my post sounded like a dig at Deftones. That wasn't the intent. They are obviously intellegent and creative. I just don't think they are on the same level as Radiohead.
Quote from: SquealLikeaPig on Nov 07, 2012, 03:17 PM
Maybe my post sounded like a dig at Deftones. That wasn't the intent. They are obviously intellegent and creative. I just don't think they are on the same level as Radiohead.
Maybe not. But music it's not just about complexity. However, I may not seem a fan of Radiohead, but I really love them anyway.
I just think it's a perspective thing ,and also creativity and complexity shouldn't be grouped just because some is more complex is doesn't make it more creative for me radiohead doesn't make me feel anything and also i think a lot of people who listen to radiohead don't feel it either sadly for them they've become one of those band's that people say they like to seem interesting
NO....Nine...nyet, me thinks this is a lie...i like Karma Police...
But DEFTONES Immitate no one...
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Nov 08, 2012, 07:18 AM
they've become one of those band's that people say they like to seem interesting
No, they are truely amazing. Not caring for their style is one thing but if you are musically inclined at all, you have to give it up to those guys. I'm not a huge fan of TY's voice but they are so good I can tolerate it.
I'm sure Chino and a few of the other members are fans of Radiohead's music.. but I gotta say, in no way are they "influenced" by them.
both Radiohead & Deftones are influencers of future bands and music.
They are both staples in the genres they represent.