Who's with me?!!! 8)
I love this song and it's a fucking shame it's never been played live...EVER!!!!
Come on Deftones......this would be such a treat for your loyal fans!!!!
this is possibly one of the gayest threads I've ever posted in.
Quote from: pixElsblUr on Jan 27, 2011, 03:53 PM
this is possibly one of the gayest threads I've ever posted in.
hahahaha!!! I don't give a flying fuck!!! I like the fucking song and i want to hear it live!!!
anyone who has a problem with that shit can kiss my Bostonian ass!!! ;D
Quote from: Vesanic on Jan 27, 2011, 03:50 PM...
I'm thick headed dude.....I try even when there is no hope! :)
This is no good, theres not point in bothering them.
and Pink Maggit would have to come b4 Gift....
Quote from: E-Money on Jan 27, 2011, 04:31 PM
This is no good, theres not point in bothering them.
and Pink Maggit would have to come b4 Gift....
ya never know man...maybe 2011 will be the "surprise the fuck out of our fans" tour! ;D
"gift"? oh hell yes. such an amazing song! i'd love it if they broke out all the old like linus demos on this tour. 1 different one per night. then maybe lovers, reviere, pink maggit, combat, etc. that would be so awesome
Quote from: Hidalgo on Jan 27, 2011, 05:19 PM
"gift"? oh hell yes. such an amazing song! i'd love it if they broke out all the old like linus demos on this tour. 1 different one per night. then maybe lovers, reviere, pink maggit, combat, etc. that would be so awesome
word!! that's what i'm saying!! ;D
[spoiler]op is a faggot[/spoiler]
Thumbs up to Battle-Axe
Quote from: Vesanic on Jan 27, 2011, 06:40 PM...
Battle axe is one of my top 10 Tones tunes, so that would be cool too!
i'd rather hear a new cover song.
i would like them to play teething again
Quote from: vinsanity on Jan 28, 2011, 12:50 AM
i would like them to play teething again
this. the boys republic would be my first choice though for rare songs.
Quote from: Vesanic on Jan 27, 2011, 06:40 PM...
don't get it twisted like i think there's a chance it happens, i just think it would be awesome if it did happen by some miracle. i'm certainly not expecting it
Quote from: Vesanic on Jan 28, 2011, 04:53 AM...
yea, that was THE highlight of 06, as far as songs played. that was so rad they broke it out. for juan's birthday? he asked them to play it, bless his heart
yes it was linus.i was thinking 1 of those 2 guys. i hadn't seen the video of it in so long i forgot they mentioned his b day
Sort of a relative question to the topic, not about Like Linus songs, but anyone else notice Detroit almost always gets a special gem? Especially State Theater (now called The Fillmore Theater these days). I've heard Can't Even Breathe, Deathblow (I'm almost sure) Rapture and Battle Axe on different occasions. May have been more that I can't register at the moment. Aren't these pretty rare or far and few in between to hear live? I only have seen a few times and even one time for some of these in fan-uploaded footage. Just curious bc I will see them again there in May at the "State Theater". Hoping to hear another and I'm dying to finally record as much footage as I can and still enjoy the main floor without getting myself or camera broke, :P to share with you guys. I haven't had anything to contribute to SL except my praises n thank you's and will do what I can n hopefully bring a jewel to your viewings! Am I right about this or is it just me thinking Detroit was lucky? ???
Quote from: Hidalgo on Jan 28, 2011, 05:01 AMQuote from: Vesanic on Jan 28, 2011, 04:53 AM...
yea, that was THE highlight of 06, as far as songs played. that was so rad they broke it out. for juan's birthday? he asked them to play it, bless his heart
Wow, I'm learning something new n interesting here everytime I log on! Makes me wonder what to expect more than I ever have n been going to these shows for12 years now. Fkn rad. Hey V, I was at Orbit Room, Grand Rapids Mi last May and i could have sworn they played 7 words maybe as an encore? Could be wrong...
Quote from: Vesanic on Jan 28, 2011, 06:34 AM...
Where? I didn't get to see that. WOW I'm certain I seen them in 03'. Gonna check, they may have played twice that year?.......
Oh! That place is like a high school gymnasium, if that. Very small and can't imagine Deftones playing there. Had to be nostalgic for the lucky ones. Can't even recall hearing about it back then. I seen ODB n RZA there in 1998 0r 99 and ODB took some bad acid from a person in the crowd and fkng wigged out! They took him out of there bc he was banging his head off of shit and talking crazy nonsense. "Who the fuck gave me that shit?" was all i could make out. Imagine that.....
Quote from: Vesanic on Jan 28, 2011, 06:34 AM...
you saw them play LL in 03? wow that's lucky. i didn't even know they played it in 03
apparently they played teething that night too? do you still have the setlist writen down anywhere. here i thought they hadn't play LL since the 90s
I always feel like Portugal get some good stuff played live from S/T album.
ah ok, my mistake, you said "it" was in detriot", not "i'...
read it wrong the first glance
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 28, 2011, 12:54 AM
Quote from: vinsanity on Jan 28, 2011, 12:50 AM
i would like them to play teething again
this. the boys republic would be my first choice though for rare songs.
The Boys Republic would be the one song I would ask them to play if I had the chance. It's probably my favorite.
Quote from: janie13 on Jan 28, 2011, 08:34 PM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 28, 2011, 12:54 AM
Quote from: vinsanity on Jan 28, 2011, 12:50 AM
i would like them to play teething again
this. the boys republic would be my first choice though for rare songs.
The Boys Republic would be the one song I would ask them to play if I had the chance. It's probably my favorite.
good choice. i agree.
I want to hear MX more.
Can't even breathe, definitely.
Also it'll prolly never happen, but i still just LOVE God's Hands. It's like the link between linus and adrenaline, mixing everything i love about both eras. I just love that song.
Haha yea for me too.
Especially since mine is on the "Don't Fuck With the Deftones" bootleg disc my buddy got in Scotland back in 98-99
ba-bap, dun du-dun dun!!!
Deftones don't seem like the kind of band who would say "this one goes out to all of our fans from the internet!"
that's like something that fuckin Linkin Park would do.
Did someone already mention that they played one of their rare oldies 'Like Linus' during Taste of Chaos. They only did it though because it was named after a friend of theirs. His name is Linus. It was his birthday...
Quote from: bodywars9000 on Jan 29, 2011, 07:01 AM
Can't even breathe, definitely.
Also it'll prolly never happen, but i still just LOVE God's Hands. It's like the link between linus and adrenaline, mixing everything i love about both eras. I just love that song.
I love quirk/god's hands too.it's somewhere in between the two eras, but with more leaning to adrenaline .. couse of the more prominent emotional singing that adrenaline had. The time when Chino suddenly started to sob+scream in their songs and started to wear adidas clothes.
I wonder if that had aaaanything to do with that they met korn ^^
DO IT! :D
Pink Magg, Riviere, TPID, Combat, Battle-Axe, MX, Mascara, Fist....
have to come b4 Gift, but just my opinion.
Quote from: E-Money on Apr 05, 2011, 05:31 AM
Pink Magg, Riviere, TPID, Combat, Battle-Axe, MX, Mascara, Fist....
and the list doesn't stop there.
gift... haha. ooookey
Fuck "Gift". Nylon and Suspenders is a much worthier song of surprising us with
fuck that shit! i don't give a fuck what YOU want to hear! this is my thread and I say i wanna hear GIFT!! :P
and ANSWERS!!! ;D
and Battle Axe
and............
Quote from: bloody_liver on Jan 29, 2011, 10:31 AM
Deftones don't seem like the kind of band who would say "this one goes out to all of our fans from the internet!"
that's like something that fuckin Linkin Park would do.
Did someone already mention that they played one of their rare oldies 'Like Linus' during Taste of Chaos. They only did it though because it was named after a friend of theirs. His name is Linus. It was his birthday...
ummmmmmmm.......yeah....this is a Defotones fan club and we are Deftone fans...who gives a flying fuck about the rest? and i may be on the net NOW..but i will be at their shows when they come around...so it would be more like "This one goes out to our boy Crazy Breed!" ;D
Gift would be sick no doubt but Pink Maggit has to come before anything else!
Hell I'm just glad I got to see them play Can't Even Breathe and If Only Tonight...
I wanna see to have and to hold!
Some people would be pretty sweet!
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 05, 2011, 06:41 PM...
hey man.....with them doing meet and greets this tour.....Just ask them! If enough people ask them i bet they would play it.
If anything, the Deftones appreciate their fans.....I plan on asking Chino when i see him next month! ;D
Petition to have them cover "Friday"
Who's with me
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We are still waiting for combat right? Didn't they say they couldn't play it right live?
Quote from: gunsrazorsknives on Apr 06, 2011, 06:59 PM
We are still waiting for combat right? Didn't they say they couldn't play it right live?
I asked stef back in '07 before a show if combat would be on the cards. He pretty mug laughed it off and said it was a studio song, stating chino can't play guitar & sing it live.
However since the introduction of royal in the last year with chino on guitar and the heavy vocals in the outro, you never know there may still be hope for combat.
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 06, 2011, 07:53 PM...
Well I hope so!
Deftones arn't a studio band - they're a shit hot live band! It would seem a shame if combat never
experienced the intensity of a live show!
combat has so much sounds in it..its hard
Quote from: stu_101 on Apr 06, 2011, 08:29 PMQuote from: Vesanic on Apr 06, 2011, 07:53 PM...
to be honest I don't see why he needs to play guitar in it.
Well I hope so!
Deftones arn't a studio band - they're a shit hot live band! It would seem a shame if combat never
experienced the intensity of a live show!
to be honest I don't hear any guitar from him in it.
Quote from: from_musings on Apr 05, 2011, 10:12 AM
Quote from: E-Money on Apr 05, 2011, 05:31 AM
Pink Magg, Riviere, TPID, Combat, Battle-Axe, MX, Mascara, Fist....
and the list doesn't stop there.
gift... haha. ooookey
THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
Quote from: stu_101 on Apr 06, 2011, 07:25 PM
Quote from: gunsrazorsknives on Apr 06, 2011, 06:59 PM
We are still waiting for combat right? Didn't they say they couldn't play it right live?
I asked stef back in '07 before a show if combat would be on the cards. He pretty mug laughed it off and said it was a studio song, stating chino can't play guitar & sing it live.
I don't doubt that they couldn't play it, but that sounds exactly like what steph would've said about Chino back then. The band aired him out in a lot of interviews lol.
Quote from: raynor on Apr 06, 2011, 10:31 PMQuote from: stu_101 on Apr 06, 2011, 08:29 PMQuote from: Vesanic on Apr 06, 2011, 07:53 PM...
to be honest I don't see why he needs to play guitar in it.
Well I hope so!
Deftones arn't a studio band - they're a shit hot live band! It would seem a shame if combat never
experienced the intensity of a live show!
to be honest I don't hear any guitar from him in it.
ull have to listen very careful but yeah there's way too much going on in combat
Quote from: stu_101 on Apr 06, 2011, 08:29 PMQuote from: Vesanic on Apr 06, 2011, 07:53 PM...
Well I hope so!
Deftones arn't a studio band - they're a shit hot live band!
Then why does Chino never sounds as good as he does in the studio?
Quote from: Oldnewtype on Apr 22, 2011, 11:02 PM
Then why does Chino never sounds as good as he does in the studio?
the question is well justified.I think stu says so because deftones themselves say they're a live band. but they can't say they're better on record than live, it would be bad publicity for their shows.
when it comes to music, sounding good must come before jumping around a lot on stage
yes his vocal injury is a good reason among others for why they're better as a studio band
Considering they've never ever played Gift live, they probably forgot how to play it...
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 23, 2011, 06:37 PM...
I think it would worth throwing a priceless gem from the linus era in these shows. After all the songs are pretty easy for them to rehearse
what about rapping "freaks"? sure it sucks, but maybe no high notes for him to hit
Quote from: from_musings on Apr 24, 2011, 07:15 PM
what about rapping "freaks"? sure it sucks, but maybe no high notes for him to hit
lol!
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 24, 2011, 06:58 PM...
that sounds like a diss towards chino hahah maybe u should tell him that and see what he does
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 23, 2011, 06:37 PM...
I totally agree because unless you're looking for Linus being a very interested fan and all, it's not really out there to stumble on by accident. What I'm saying is it would be easier to hear if they wanted it to be. I didn't hear Linus until like 2005 and bought my first record by Deftones in 1998! It is a naive expectation for sure man.
He can still sing more than good enough to sing this one! This song has special meaning to me.....it's not their best shit on Linus....but it has the most meaning to me....I can't wait to see his reaction when i ask him why they have never done it live.
maybe this reaction ::)
or maybe they will all go :-* at your face. if they thought playing gift would be a good idea they would have played it but they haven't for like 20 years or more, go figure.do you think they will say "wow? gift you say?? now that you mention it..such a great idea! we forgot about this AWESOME tune!
thanks for reminding us! hey steph this noob's right - fuck promoting songs from records that sells - we'll add it to all nights setlists from now on! im thinkin opener!" seriously use your time better if you get a chance to talk to them
Quote from: from_musings on Apr 28, 2011, 02:58 PM
or maybe they will all go :-* at your face. if they thought playing gift would be a good idea they would have played it but they haven't for like 20 years or more, go figure.do you think they will say "wow? gift you say?? now that you mention it..such a great idea! we forgot about this AWESOME tune!
thanks for reminding us! hey steph this noob's right - fuck promoting songs from records that sells - we'll add it to all nights setlists from now on! im thinkin opener!" seriously use your time better if you get a chance to talk to them
why do you always try to piss in a mutha fucka's cheerios dude...for real....WTF?! maybe you should log off and go get laid...it works wonders for a shity attitude....or maybe smoke a blunt and have a drink!
First off....fuck no i don't think they are going to say "wow? gift you say?? now that you mention it..such a great idea! we forgot about this AWESOME tune!"....Chino will prob laugh at me....but i don't give a fuck....that's the difference between me and a lot of fans...I'm not gonna go and kiss ass....I say what i want to say and i will let you know how he reacts ok...I'm all about keeping shit real and speaking my mind.
Quote from: Crazy Breed on Apr 28, 2011, 03:23 PM
I'm all about keeping shit real and speaking my mind.
yeah that's what i did !
Quote from: from_musings on Apr 28, 2011, 03:37 PM
Quote from: Crazy Breed on Apr 28, 2011, 03:23 PM
I'm all about keeping shit real and speaking my mind.
yeah that's what i did !
yeah...but there is a difference between doing it with couth & being a dick about it......it is possible to reply without trying to shit on someone at the same time.
This just hit me..Listening to "Gift" gives me a team sleepish vibe as well as Carpenter playing melodic stuff...even at such an early age
Wow! Out of all the songs they could play live - Gift!?
Not dissing you - everyone has different tastes, I just don't think it's a very good song.
I really doubt they'll EVER play it - from what I can make out they're not too proud of Linus, and rightly so, it's the sound of a young band still finding their feet.
It's not bad for a demo tape but it's nowhere near the standard of what was to come.
It does have some truly embarrassing moments though like 'Answers' - I'm sure the band would like to pretend they never did that one.
i don't think they're embarrased for the linus stuff. it's like you being embarrased for a picture you made when where you were a little kid. we all grow,mature and develop, it natural to get better at things.no need to bash a young you, or for deftones to bash a young deftones
i used to like the linus stuff before but then i realized it was just me being crazy about everything with a deftones logo on it. would we really adore it if it were some other garage band? probably not
if gretzky watched some old videos of him practising hockey as a little fart im sure he wouldn't feel it was embarrasing. i think he would think "without that training, no me being a hockey star later". but to think him falling on his ass in practice as a kid is as a good hockey player as him winning the stanley cup, or even to compare them or talk about it as its got the same quality, that's when it gets wierd
i just can't take that dorky vibe in linus seriously... to compare clowny songs like answers freaks hump gift with songs like fireal, damone korea,wgtb - to talk about them like they would be in the same leauge doesn't work for me at all. when they recorded adrenaline they had decided to go for a aggressive bleak sound with heavy metal guitars and a clear emotional korn influence in the vocals, that's when they became deftones as we know them today imo.they picked those songs from Linus that would work to re-do into their new-style as a band. its hard to see that the other songs would work on the adrenaline with the same treatment and they prob thought so too. i don't hate linus by any means, they're just songs that make you smile because the're funny. what i look for in deftones music just isn't there for me. when they played linus live, wasn't that a funny birthday thing ^
Quote from: from_musings on Aug 25, 2011, 11:14 PM
when they played linus live, wasn't that a funny birthday thing ^
They were on tour and it was their friend Linus' birthday, so they played it for him and it sounded kick ass
god's hands isn't on the like linus i have, the version that's out there sounds like something they recorded round adrenaline. maybe it was linus sounding when it was called quirk
the net version of gods hand with the adrenaline style is prob recorded in 94. maybe early 95. the linus stuff is from 92-93. they way chino sings on linus isn't anything like in gods hands.again, i wouldn't be surpirsed if a version of quirk would sound more like linus stuff
yes.. quirk is from the old days but the quirk that sounds like adrenaline is always named god's hand. like a re-do like engine,7words got
i've only heard one. but it sounds like a more mature deftones with the new adrenaline vibe. and since it is written in 92 maybe, i would guess there's a version that sounds like something on like linus. i don't know
Quote from: from_musings on Aug 26, 2011, 12:14 AM
i've only heard one. but it sounds like a more mature deftones with the new adrenaline vibe. and since it is written in 92 maybe, i would guess there's a version that sounds like something on like linus. i don't know
yea, you don't know. and you keep saying korn influenced deftones like it's a fact, yet you're the only one on earth to say that. deftones nor korn have said this. deftones love talking about their influences and they never mentioned korn, even when it would have been cool to like 95-97 before FTL. judging by interviews and stuff korn and jon davis have always acted more influenced by deftones than the other way around. god's hands i think was the progression song to the heavier modern sound, and it's from FAR before korn existed. they played it in the live 1992 show that's out there. sounds just the same then, actually heavier live in 1992. they beat korn to the new sound not vise versa. 1992 korn didn't exist, they formed in 1993, deftones in 1988. god's hands could have existed in 91 90 or even 88. fact is it's from before korn. not that the 2 bands ever sounded alike, but deftones were onto the modern metal sound well before korn. they're known for progressing, and they started that adrenaline direction before korn was a band(and i like korn). root from the 1992 show is another example, it's real close to the adrenaline version. they were already heading the adrenaline direction before korn existed. adrenaline doesn't sound like korn anyway. jon never screamed like Chino. two very different styles, and senses of melody. so enough with the deftones were influenced or copied korn stuff, cause it's just not there. the like linus stuff is killer, 88-92 era deftones, most of it is rock and roll/punk style. misfits kinda tunes, but better. badass tunes imo, far from a joke
http://youtu.be/qqiLGPUmZrU (http://youtu.be/qqiLGPUmZrU)
god's hands/quirk 1992
http://youtu.be/qIxDmYEpGrs (http://youtu.be/qIxDmYEpGrs)
root 1992
and this is just cause it's awesome, 1990 deftones! (does older footage exist of them?)
http://youtu.be/CHBEAtxLEQY (http://youtu.be/CHBEAtxLEQY)
Quote from: Hidalgo on Aug 26, 2011, 04:33 AM
they played it in the live 1992 show that's out there. sounds just the same then
haha NO. that's the thing... when chino sings on linus - he does it with a much deeper voice, sounds like elvis. let's call that elvis chino. on adrenaline he sounds much more vulnerable, sweet, tired and distant. let's call that vunerable-korn-chino. it's
completely different chino's in my ears. the gods hand's version that we know got the vunerable adrenaline korn chino, the linus stuff's got elvis chino and adrenaline's got the vunerable korn chino. if the god's hand version we know was recorded before Linus like in 90 (vunerable korn chino) it would mean that when Linus was recorded 92 he said "fuck it, im just gonna sound like Elvis from now on." and when they later on would record adrenaline in 95, it would mean that he would say "nah fuck elvis, im just gonna make an entire record sounding like that old song god's hands again." it would be very strange that he would begin to sound like five years back again. the qurik live version totally got the elvis/linus vibe to it, nowhere near the vunerability like the gods hand version and adrenaline. i never thought he jump back and forth between eras like that, which automatically makes me believe that the god's hand version is a later recording. if it actually was recorded before linus then it would blow my mind. then they are pioneers. i thought it was well known that korn and deftones started the new metal thing for real, and to say that they don't have a similar ground is crazy. again, this is always what i assumed, and when one assume one thing that makes sense, that becomes almost fact after a lot of years. i don't have an exact year for the gods hands that's out there and as long as i don't, i can't be sure. songs do develop though.. oraled became bored, quirk became god's hands. do you think chino sings the same in engine9,7words in like linus as he does in those songs on adrenaline?
I don't think the "elvis" sound was a conscious decision, keep in mind he was still really young then, so his voice is obviously gonna sound different
Quote from: BillyNo.9 on Aug 26, 2011, 06:14 PM
I don't think the "elvis" sound was a conscious decision, keep in mind he was still really young then, so his voice is obviously gonna sound different
he did say danzig influenced him though.. and danzig is called evil elvis. and it aint because of the looks
Quote from: from_musings on Aug 26, 2011, 06:21 PM
Quote from: BillyNo.9 on Aug 26, 2011, 06:14 PM
I don't think the "elvis" sound was a conscious decision, keep in mind he was still really young then, so his voice is obviously gonna sound different
he did say danzig influenced him though.. and danzig is called evil elvis. and it aint because of the looks
Okay you may be right. Could also be a Morrissey influence. Maybe he was just putting on that voice for confidence, what with still being a kid and all, I'm sue he'd have had some insecurities about his natural singing voice
they should cover Ghost Town by the Specials
;D
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Quote from: from_musings on Aug 26, 2011, 06:03 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Aug 26, 2011, 04:33 AM
they played it in the live 1992 show that's out there. sounds just the same then
haha NO. that's the thing... when chino sings on linus - he does it with a much deeper voice, sounds like elvis. let's call that elvis chino. on adrenaline he sounds much more vulnerable, sweet, tired and distant. let's call that vunerable-korn-chino. it's completely different chino's in my ears. the gods hand's version that we know got the vunerable adrenaline korn chino, the linus stuff's got elvis chino and adrenaline's got the vunerable korn chino. if the god's hand version we know was recorded before Linus like in 90 (vunerable korn chino) it would mean that when Linus was recorded 92 he said "fuck it, im just gonna sound like Elvis from now on." and when they later on would record adrenaline in 95, it would mean that he would say "nah fuck elvis, im just gonna make an entire record sounding like that old song god's hands again." it would be very strange that he would begin to sound like five years back again. the qurik live version totally got the elvis/linus vibe to it, nowhere near the vunerability like the gods hand version and adrenaline. i never thought he jump back and forth between eras like that, which automatically makes me believe that the god's hand version is a later recording. if it actually was recorded before linus then it would blow my mind. then they are pioneers. i thought it was well known that korn and deftones started the new metal thing for real, and to say that they don't have a similar ground is crazy. again, this is always what i assumed, and when one assume one thing that makes sense, that becomes almost fact after a lot of years. i don't have an exact year for the gods hands that's out there and as long as i don't, i can't be sure. songs do develop though.. oraled became bored, quirk became god's hands. do you think chino sings the same in engine9,7words in like linus as he does in those songs on adrenaline?
he doesn't sing like elvis, that's retarded. he sang a bit like danzig, more old school rock punk.sounded great. but yea the proof is in the pudding, that 1992 live version is exactly like the studio version, which could very well be from 92 or earlier. they'd be pioneers? where have you been? they've been pioneers all along. you'e the only one claiming the ripped off korn, which is pretty offensive, basically calling them frauds. adrenaline sounds nothing like korn. and wtf is vulnerable korn chino? that's in your own mind. by no means a fact. downright goofy actually. what's so wrong with giving this band credit for what they've done? they were well on their way to the adrenaline sound before korn existted. it's far more likely korn was influenced by them. i mean there's video evidence of deftones sounding adrenaline like before korn. and saying they ripped off korn in particular, when any number of 1,000s of bands could have influenced them, seems pretty thin. plus we already know their influences. saying that god's hand live 1992 sounds different than the studio version is ridiculous, and just you being hell bent on your retarded 'they ripped off korn" theory. even though the 2 bands never sounded alike in the first place. if adrenaline is Chino trying to sound like jon davis, he did a horrible job. not very similar all. let it go
i'm not speaking on the subject again, i've made my point
Quote from: pony_01 on Aug 26, 2011, 06:27 PM
they should cover Ghost Town by the Specials
;D
The Prodigy Ghost Town (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0dF8Fzp5II#)
hey hidalgo..do you think there is any difference in how chino expresses himself in like like linus and adrenaline? or do you think the form of expression is the same? does he sing in the same way? (big BIG difference to me)
1992) chino sings like elvis and make songs like gift with a fucking flute, dumb circus rap like freaks and straight up happy pop songs like venison and linus
1994) korn release their debut where jonathan shows a lot of sadness mixed with a lot anger to heavy metal guitars
1995) deftones release their debut where chino shows a lot of sadness mixed with a lot anger to heavy metal guitars
just saying
ok 1992 god's hands and root, well on their way to the adrenaline sound. for all we know korn heard that and it influenced them , that's far more likely. Elvis? good god dude...
and alot of the linus stuff wasn't "happy", plastic, christmas, god's hands. pretty heavy and pissed. circus? WHAT THE FUCK? get ahold of yourself man
just like from atf to wp, they changed from like linus to adrenaline. to say it was because of korn is ridiculous, when there's video proof of them playing adrenaline style before korn existed. and who know how long after korn formed it took them to make their songs before deftones even heard them, all the while they continue to try different styles and sounds
i'm done with this silly subject. this is sad. deftones korn ripoffs? korn themselves would probably laugh at you for that
ok so you think chino sounds like danzig but not elvis
about danzig: "As a singer, he is noted for his baritone vocal range and distinctive style, which has been compared to that of Elvis Presley"
well danzig is constantly being compared to elvis so... :D
i have an old interview on fucking tape somewhere, from 96-97 i think,where chino says that a lot of people who heard deftones the first time said "wow.. kinda korn?" and you can hear he's tired of it. steph interrups and says "we got our own vibe and they got theirs". according to chino himself, there were a lot of comparing, which probably is why he mention them as little as possible. korn were the bigger brother and deftones looked up to them at first but hated it later. that being said, deftones music will always be a gazillion times better, no matter who influensed who
i like them both. deftones are better for sure. i think they're two very different bands who came with really original sounds. but unique in their own ways. i don't think either ripped off the other
i think god's hands was definitely recorded before korn's debut. and i hear the exact same sound in the 1992 live version, it's no different. i hope you brought your umbrela, cause it's raining cold hard facts in here
and they may have been the first to mix rap/reggae/metal. 88 answers. they've always brought the originality
think about how different tool sounded on opiate in 92 vs undertow in 93. did they rip off korn too? bands can try different sounds and change
one little thing that says a lot is: listen to the way chino says "shut up you don't know me" in 7 words in like linus 1992. have in mind that korn release their debut in 94. then listen to how chino says "shut up you don't know me" on adrenaline. i hear a jonathan davis influense. suddenly that part is emo as fuck. that being said.. it's just a year and just a song.. but if god's hands "studio" version is recorded before korn's debut then it would actually turn my world upside down and change my view on deftones as a band. that means deftones had the adrenaline sound even years before adrenaline.i hope it's true (no i can't hear that emo shit in the 92 concerts)
a couple of things that shows that the god's hand that we got (let's call it studio version) is recorded later, maybe in 1994, after the linus sessions, is:
1) in the live 1992 quirk,there' no alarming intro, the songs kick off right away.
in the studio version there is an alarm intro. in the 1994 live version - there's an alarm intro too.
2) in the 1992 live version - in the breakdown,the bassline is a little different. from 2:35-2:45
it's a different loop, for ten seconds, right before it becomes like the studio version.
if you listen to the studio version and the 1994 live song, those are the same. those two haven't got that
extra 10 seconds loop.seems deftones scrapped it.
3) in the 1992 live version he is shouting "shut up,shut up,shut up" repeatedly (2:10)
in the 1994 live version he says "shut the fuck... UP!" once. just like in the studio version
1992: Deftones Rares - God's Hands (Quirk) Live 1992 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqiLGPUmZrU#)
1994: Deftones-God's Hand (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zNTtFc64Cs#)
so no hidalgo, the 92 version and the studio version, does not sound "exactly the same". how about listening to the music insted of just talking about it ;)
it's also a lot more dist (guitar) in the verse in studio version and the 94 live song.
the 92 quirk version, got that guitar sound like in like linu's 7 words- not so much dist.
if you listen to god's hand 94 live, the studio version, it's got a lot more dist. just like the verse on 7 words on adrenaline got a lot more dist compared to the linus version. in 1994 they're moving towards their known deftones sound guitar wise, and started to sound more vunerable and less deep like danzig/elvis vocally
Quote from: bodywars9000 on Jan 29, 2011, 07:01 AM
i still just LOVE God's Hands. It's like the link between linus and adrenaline, mixing everything i love about both eras. I just love that song.
what is it with that god's hand version that makes you think it doesn't sounds 100% like a linus song? what's the adrenaline vibe in it to you?