Post all interviews, pictures, magazine scans regarding Deftones in here.
dude! something like this was missing all the time.
posted it before but it's a really new interview.
new interview up on the facebook page of their german streetteam
http://www.facebook.com/streetteamde (http://www.facebook.com/streetteamde)
check the video section
http://www.thevine.com.au/interviews/articles/deftones-_-interview.aspx (http://www.thevine.com.au/interviews/articles/deftones-_-interview.aspx)
http://www.bombshellzine.com/newspage/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=5258 (http://www.bombshellzine.com/newspage/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=5258)
Part 1
http://videos.wittysparks.com/id/1468352410 (http://videos.wittysparks.com/id/1468352410)
Part 2
http://videos.wittysparks.com/id/138663487 (http://videos.wittysparks.com/id/138663487)
http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/features/23473/Deftones.htm (http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/features/23473/Deftones.htm)
Great interviews, thanks.
David Farrier talks to Deftones about Diamond Eyes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DeMVGm4nWA#ws)
thanks for the links guys!
Good to hear Chino talking about his vocals, for once.
Quote from: Vesanic on May 04, 2010, 09:35 AM
Good to hear Chino talking about his vocals, for once.
your so obsessed with his vocals
Quote from: deftjess on May 04, 2010, 02:46 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on May 04, 2010, 09:35 AM
Good to hear Chino talking about his vocals, for once.
your so obsessed with his vocals
You're so obsessed with stating the fact that I care about his vocals.
Deftones - Interview (May 2010) - Diamond Eyes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrs9YRa7cqI#ws)
Quote from: nyquil_addict133 on May 11, 2010, 07:25 AM
in the interview before deftones performed DE in it's entierty, the interviewer asked them online questions. One was "What is the definitive band that Deftones wish to tour with but haven't"?
All of them had no answer except for Steph... "Radiohead." I agree with Steph but wasn't Tool the obvious answer? Does he still feel bitter towards Maynard because he's never performed "Passenger" live? Even he's asked the Sepultra singer, Steph said Chino wants Maynard to perform it but is too afraid to ask him. I've heard Maynard is pompous and can be a dick, I wonder if that's why Chino is afraid to ask him.
Maynard performed Passenger live with them twice.
Yeah, a Deftones/Tool tour would be awesome, both are my favorite bands. But yeah, Maynard can be a complete asshole.
twice? i think it was only once. i remember that i downloaded a live version from napster back in 2000 and it was with maynard. but the quality wasn't really good.
holy shit i'd never noticed before how much chino says "ya know" or "ya know what i mean?"
Quote from: cesar421 on May 11, 2010, 09:20 AM
twice? i think it was only once. i remember that i downloaded a live version from napster back in 2000 and it was with maynard. but the quality wasn't really good.
First time was at Summersault festival 2000, second time was at Roskilde festival 2001, here's the audio:
Deftones & Maynard James Keenan - Passenger Live (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQfpVC8UV6A#)
I wonder if they really never played it during the Deftones/A Perfect Circle tour, though.
Deftones Interview at Buzzfest 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFNySDmU9rU#)
guy is an idiot as usual.
http://www.shockhound.com/features/1157-deftones---we-ve-grown-up- (http://www.shockhound.com/features/1157-deftones---we-ve-grown-up-)
An interview about Deftones and T-shirts.
This is on the deftones homepage but its here as well now. :)
Post 'm all here:
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I've always thought we needed a deftones photos thread or some shit like that so I guess I'll just sticky this.
if its an interview with text and pictures, where shall those scans be, here or in the deftones interview section? lots of scans are interviews,no?
Not a big deal, they can be in both topics.
damn,those interviews will be everywhere. but hey,repetition is the mother of all learning
Well, now we have this topic/thread we don't need to have seperate threads for every new interview in a magazine like before....
Here are some dope pictures provided by Vanessa:
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Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 13, 2010, 07:04 AM
damn,those interviews will be everywhere. but hey,repetition is the mother of all learning
Not everywhere. Just here and in the deftones interviews thread.
i just find it more appropriate to have the interview scans in the interview section :) but a deftones picture thread is needed
This is just for scans or pics from magazines. Go and repost in the interview section if you want that. End of complaining.....
Cool, right now almost every magazine has a deftones feature so... kindofacoolideafosho!
VISIONS
Some of these are hard to read but it's german anyway haha:
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KERRANG
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ROCK SOUND
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ROCK ONE
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Quote from: slyartwork on May 13, 2010, 07:28 AM
This is just for scans or pics from magazines. Go and repost in the interview section if you want that. End of complaining.....
well the complaining just made you guys explain the rules more. the complains will kill upcoming confusion :) carry on
Cool, you better help out here and find some articles! Thanx man haha.
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Rockaxis from Chile
(only spanish!)
Interview with Abe: Page No. 42-44
D.E. review : Page No. 77
http://www.kzines.com/chile/clientes/rockaxis/89_mayo10/rockaxis89.pdf (http://www.kzines.com/chile/clientes/rockaxis/89_mayo10/rockaxis89.pdf)
Quote from: defcoke on May 13, 2010, 08:26 AM
Interview with Abe: Page No. 42-44
D.E. review : Page No. 77
http://www.kzines.com/chile/clientes/rockaxis/89_mayo10/rockaxis89.pdf (http://www.kzines.com/chile/clientes/rockaxis/89_mayo10/rockaxis89.pdf)
Nice!
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Really nice thread :)
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Chi: " Say wut, nigga ? "
Nice pics. Should be a thread for just webpics. These don't come from a magazine right? Anyways... Nice ones
Quote from: slyartwork on May 13, 2010, 03:51 PM
Nice pics. Should be a thread for just webpics. These don't come from a magazine right? Anyways... Nice ones
This thread is for every Deftones picture, from the web, or magazines photos, don't care.
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nice thread :) i love the snw era pics. where they are sooo BIG
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Quote from: stuka on May 13, 2010, 04:04 PM
Hey, yeah, I'm just wondering if these pictures could be bigger. I couldn't see them from space, so I wanna see if we can fix that. 'K, thanks.
Please don't quote the pictures.
Vesanic
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I just adore Chinos eyes.
This picture was always one of my favorites.
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I just adore Chinos eyes.
This picture was always one of my favorites.
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Cause there playing video games LOL JK
Quote from: deftjess on May 14, 2010, 05:39 PM
Quote from: nintendoXO on May 14, 2010, 05:32 PM
I just adore Chinos eyes.
Cause there playing video games LOL JK
Hahaha No waaay. I just like how every one is chilling doing their thing, Then theres Chi in the background jumping/flying doing whatever.
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lol so far most viewed is with his mom
gimme another pie mom!
You want more ???????????
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lol so far most viewed is with his mom
gimme another pie mom!
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good stuff keep postin more photos
I have those same bowls!!
Sly, is there any chanceyou post the interviews in the first page in a higher resolution? I want to read 'em.
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on May 15, 2010, 04:34 AM
Sly, is there any chanceyou post the interviews in the first page in a higher resolution? I want to read 'em.
Most of them were posted before in high resolution. Search for Kerrang and Rock Sound.
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lol so far most viewed is with his mom
gimme another pie mom!
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Quote from: wax on May 14, 2010, 04:50 PM
20 pics http://img64.imageshack.us/g/1999groupe08.jpg/ (http://img64.imageshack.us/g/1999groupe08.jpg/)
lol so far most viewed is with his mom
gimme another pie mom!
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1553/45319620.jpg (http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1553/45319620.jpg)
funny ass shit
funny as hell! hajajajaja
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7605/chinoj.jpg)
this is an epic thread! Amazing pics! :D
http://www.facebook.com/photo_search.php?oid=2242961825&view=user# (http://www.facebook.com/photo_search.php?oid=2242961825&view=user#)!/group.php?gid=2242961825&v=photos
Quote from: endoeleven on May 16, 2010, 12:00 AM
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facebook shrinks images ;/
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wow, what an amazing and epic thread!!
thanks to everyone who posted here!
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BIG BOOBS ;D
Quote from: wax on May 15, 2010, 11:29 PM
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made by mommie
YUMM!
Quote from: defburn on May 16, 2010, 06:43 AM
http://img294.imageshack.us/i/39376549.jpg/ (http://img294.imageshack.us/i/39376549.jpg/)
http://img261.imageshack.us/i/692h.jpg/ (http://img261.imageshack.us/i/692h.jpg/)
BIG BOOBS ;D
posted in my last album....
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chino pix seem most popular.... 72 http://img218.imageshack.us/g/55421166.jpg/ (http://img218.imageshack.us/g/55421166.jpg/)
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This one is my favourite, I have it as poster (twice actually). it's a shame a better quality of this one isn't floating the net. I might scan it someday if I have a big enough scan.
someone have high quality photos of the adrenaline or around the fur era??
thanks!
Sure!
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Both from the July 1998 issue of KERRANG!
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Quote from: wax on May 16, 2010, 10:23 PM
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Hahahaha, holy shit.
Quote from: theis on May 17, 2010, 12:13 AM
Quote from: wax on May 16, 2010, 10:23 PM
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Hahahaha, holy shit.
OINK
Also from the July1998 issue of KERRANG!
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i might have a few more magazine scans this is from metal hammer august 1998
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anymore live pics from S/T era? That one of Abe with the blurred drum stick is so dope.
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mm deftones @ Mexico?
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so they visited Mixup?.. cool.. i'm sure it was at Mexico City or Guadalajara back in 2007
Quote from: defTHE1s on May 17, 2010, 03:39 AM
mm deftones @ Mexico?
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5866/105nd.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5866/105nd.jpg)
so they visited Mixup?.. cool.. i'm sure it was at Mexico City or Guadalajara back in 2007
thats stephs dad btw...
naahhh really? ???
i remember him, i saw him before they played at Vive Latino last time here at Mexico too..
Quote from: defburn on May 16, 2010, 06:43 AM
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Disgusting.
Great pictures! I want moreeeee :D
DEFTONES. INTERVIEW. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h0obdddqfE#ws)
Awesome interview, cheers for that.
I'm gonna have to be biased and disagree with that Twitter comment about Stefs more noticeable riffing, whaaat? where was that person when they wrote Adrenaline, ATF and White Pony!? lol
"you know, you know, you know...!"
DEFTONES. INTERVIEW. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h0obdddqfE#ws)
Thanks to deftfan for the link.
Very cool interview of Chino Moreno for Musiquemag.com 2010 [Sous-titres français/French subtitles] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0VC_6vK0BM#ws)
YES! BURGER KING!
Sweet interview!
Very cool indeed.
BJORK FTW
http://www.toazted.com/playinterview/437/Chi-in-23.html (http://www.toazted.com/playinterview/437/Chi-in-23.html)
Interview brought by buddyboy101.
Quote from: theis on May 17, 2010, 12:13 AM
Quote from: wax on May 16, 2010, 10:23 PM
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/7585/picture1hx.png (http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/7585/picture1hx.png)
Hahahaha, holy shit.
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METAL HAMMER:
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ROCK TRIBUNE [Dutch/Belgian Magazine] NICE WRITING CREDITSSSSS!!!!!
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I have merged the Deftones interview thread with the deftones pictures, magazine scans thread.
http://www.rocklineradio.com/ (http://www.rocklineradio.com/)
Interview somewhere on that radio. Thanks to buddyboy101 for the link.
Rockline's website - Not an interview as such.. That's why I made a different thread. Nevermind.
"Monday, May 17 2010
Deftones
Diamond Eyes
It was high praise indeed. If you're familiar with ROCKLINE you know about our long running feature called the "Encore Question" in which each of our guests leave a question for the guest on the next show. Our esteemed guest last week, Metal God Rob Halford, was beyond enthused upon learning that he would be leaving a question for Deftones. Off the air during a break in the show, Rob began to verbally list his favorite Deftones albums, individual songs and his respect for the entire band and its leader Chino Moreno. Quite honestly, on occasion we need to help some guests with a prompt or two about the following guest; rarely a full tutorial is required. You'd be beyond surprised how many artists don't listen to music from other performers. Somehow it makes sense with the brutal cycle of album, tour....album, tour, ad nauseum. We've also learned that many of our guests, for myriad reasons, listen to talk radio, preferring to take a break from music altogether, or as to not be influenced by the work of others. Not the irrepressible Mr. Halford, however, who launched into a stimulating and well versed discussion of the relative merits of "White Pony" compared to "Adrenaline", two of the first three Deftones albums and of the ethereal quality of "Diamond Eyes", the title track and first single from their brand new album. You'll need to listen to this week's show with Deftones to learn exactly what the question was which Rob left for the band. Btw, the equally irrepressible Mr. Moreno will join us for the show along with guitarist Stephen Carpenter to take your calls, answer your questions and provide a verbal guided tour of their superb new effort. Get prepared with a perusal of Deftones.com or their MySpace
No serious, enlightened or heartfelt discussion of Deftones is complete without mention of the tragic accident on November 4, 2008 involving bassist Chi Cheng in Santa Clara, California which has left him a coma since. His current condition is described as being in a "minimally-conscious state". The details of the accident itself are harrowing; the response of Chi's numerous friends, fans and supporters is heartening. Several benefits have been staged, including the "Chi Leng Cheng Special Needs Trust" and a website has been created (OneLoveForChi.com) which has created a sense of much needed community dedicated to helping, informing and comforting the thousands of friends and fans who care for the talented bass player and want to be kept abreast of the latest news regarding his condition. As you can imagine, the medical bills are astronomical and endlessly mounting. For those of us fortunate enough to have been directly touched by Chi's essence, his piercing, wicked sense of humor and joie de vivre, no matter how much is being done for him it can never be enough. Deftones were recording an album with Chi called "Eros", which Moreno described as delightfully "weird" when the accident occurred. In a typically classy move the album has been indefinitely shelved pending Cheng's prayed for recovery. Enlisting friend and former Quicksand member, Sergio Vega, the band created this new album "Diamond Eyes" which is our focus on the upcoming show. Huge props to Deftones for their principled decision to honor their friend and band mate.
Join us for the innovation and magic which is the music of the Deftones as Chino Moreno and Steph Carpenter join us from New York"
anybody have the rockline interview ripped to mp3?
Quote from: dawg on May 01, 2010, 01:55 PM
dude! something like this was missing all the time.
posted it before but it's a really new interview.
new interview up on the facebook page of their german streetteam
http://www.facebook.com/streetteamde (http://www.facebook.com/streetteamde)
check the video section
You know, I was happily watching these videos and then POOF they were gone. I don't get it.
Deftones interview today on 103.1 the Buzz in West Palm Beach, Florida.
http://buzz103.radio.com/2010/05/19/daily-dose-deftones-interview/#more-7097 (http://buzz103.radio.com/2010/05/19/daily-dose-deftones-interview/#more-7097)
Stef interview [part 1]
http://www.musicradar.com/totalguitar/interview-deftones-guitarist-stef-carpenter-part-one-251611 (http://www.musicradar.com/totalguitar/interview-deftones-guitarist-stef-carpenter-part-one-251611)
lol @ Negatron :D
nice read btw
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Quote from: wax on May 20, 2010, 05:57 PM
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chino looks fckin evil!!! :D
Quote from: cEvin Key on May 20, 2010, 06:26 PM
Quote from: wax on May 20, 2010, 05:57 PM
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chino looks fckin evil!!! :D
Yeah he does. It's fucking awesome.
Quote from: cEvin Key on May 20, 2010, 06:26 PM
Quote from: wax on May 20, 2010, 05:57 PM
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chino looks fckin evil!!! :D
Hey, can you also upload all your scans in the forum please? (from ANY period)
It will be awesome if everybody can collaborate.
It's for my own collection. and I will post mine, for you, this week end. Thank you!
:)
Deftones - Diamond Eyes - Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q56U0kpGyE#)
GUITAR PART JUNE 2010
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ROCK SOUND 2007
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ROCK SOUND (DATE??)
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ROCK SOUND 2003
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ROCK SOUND 2000
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in think im missing some old 90's mags with pix of the boys; guitar mags, ap, etc i remember even seeing a b&w pic of dt/ i dont recall ever seen before anywhere else/ in the back of playboy with a quick review im not sure if it was for adrenaline or atf
I have so much mags where they are in. Lot's of 90's stuff. I only don't feel like scanning them all! I will scan some now and then okay in the coming time....
Thanks Vanessa for yours!
bad brains/tones set http://img534.imageshack.us/g/86095836.jpg/ (http://img534.imageshack.us/g/86095836.jpg/)
11 http://img42.imageshack.us/g/deftone2s2.jpg/ (http://img42.imageshack.us/g/deftone2s2.jpg/)
55 http://img163.imageshack.us/g/31663478.jpg/ (http://img163.imageshack.us/g/31663478.jpg/)
more coming
(http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/581/chinohi.jpg)
http://img218.imageshack.us/g/00009atsa.jpg/ (http://img218.imageshack.us/g/00009atsa.jpg/)
more later....
deftones.wmv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNSSspFF1Jo#)
Thks Wax for your pix ;)
Quote from: SomeOf on May 22, 2010, 10:27 PM
Thks Wax for your pix ;)
;) your welcome
Mein photoshoot part 1 http://img442.imageshack.us/g/picture0.png/ (http://img442.imageshack.us/g/picture0.png/) 37
Mein photoshoot part 2 http://img94.imageshack.us/g/picture14sd.png/ (http://img94.imageshack.us/g/picture14sd.png/) 41
Deftones as dynamic as ever (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4fhefob8jg#ws)
Deftones Drummer Chi Cheng?
Quote from: deftones86 on May 23, 2010, 07:09 AM
Deftones as dynamic as ever (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4fhefob8jg#ws)
Deftones Drummer Chi Cheng?
FAIL!
ahah
(http://imgur.com/DzzCn.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/nvd0L.jpg) (http://imgur.com/KFDL6.jpg) (http://imgur.com/19UyO.jpg) (http://imgur.com/VkcL4.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/rU3WQ.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/h94mS.jpg)
Quote from: stuka on May 23, 2010, 06:06 PM
http://imgur.com/DzzCn.jpg (http://imgur.com/DzzCn.jpg)
Lmao.
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/51/149716018_191120d432_m.jpg)
awesome shots from a free show in sacto in 2006:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/himesimages/sets/72057594139392768/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/himesimages/sets/72057594139392768/)
same show, another guy:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tf5_bassist/sets/72057594139981329/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tf5_bassist/sets/72057594139981329/)
anyone knows, wich shoes are chino wearing in the skatebord with flowers?
Quote from: White Wrist on May 23, 2010, 06:45 PM
anyone knows, wich shoes are chino wearing in the skatebord with flowers?
(http://www.hushpuppies.com/US/Content/images/hush-puppies-logo.gif) let me guess....you have a goatee, short hair, and long side burns to also try to look like him? :)
dont know if anyone has seen this interview, check it
http://www.shockhound.com/features/1157-deftones---we-ve-grown-up- (http://www.shockhound.com/features/1157-deftones---we-ve-grown-up-)
Quote from: wax on May 23, 2010, 07:18 PM
Quote from: White Wrist on May 23, 2010, 06:45 PM
anyone knows, wich shoes are chino wearing in the skatebord with flowers?
(http://www.hushpuppies.com/US/Content/images/hush-puppies-logo.gif) let me guess....you have a goatee, short hair, and long side burns to also try to look like him? :)
sure. but i am prettier.
(http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/3575/ch1k.jpg)
(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9623/ch2j.jpg)
(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2307/picture3nn.jpg)
(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3585/chino.jpg)
Wax you've been pissing me off with your stupid posts but gotta admit that your pics look dope.
Deftones, KoRn & Limp Bizkit MTV interview from the old days:
Limp Bizkit, KoRn, Deftones - (MTV Ultrasound) - Bandas de metal-ff (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGMyiXPvxuc#)
Quote from: SomeOf on May 15, 2010, 02:49 PM
http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/9930491081839540_f_1.jpg (http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/9930491081839540_f_1.jpg)
Is that Grady?
Quote from: White Wrist on May 24, 2010, 01:08 AM
Quote from: wax on May 23, 2010, 07:18 PM
Quote from: White Wrist on May 23, 2010, 06:45 PM
anyone knows, wich shoes are chino wearing in the skatebord with flowers?
(http://www.hushpuppies.com/US/Content/images/hush-puppies-logo.gif) let me guess....you have a goatee, short hair, and long side burns to also try to look like him? :)
sure. but i am prettier.
That is not possible.
Quote from: White Wrist on May 23, 2010, 06:45 PM
anyone knows, wich shoes are chino wearing in the skatebord with flowers?
I seen him wear these shoes alot http://www.myairshoes.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/vans-slayer-sk8-hi-01.jpg (http://www.myairshoes.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/vans-slayer-sk8-hi-01.jpg)
another interview from Rock on the Range
Deftones at the Golden Horse Saloon at Rock on the Range (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dmJ5GZ_3tw#ws)
Quote from: Martin on May 24, 2010, 11:37 AM
Quote from: SomeOf on May 15, 2010, 02:49 PM
http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/9930491081839540_f_1.jpg (http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/9930491081839540_f_1.jpg)
Is that Grady?
Nope, it's Sonny Mayugba of Phallucy.
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1866/18719498.jpg)
(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/6950/60722727.jpg)
(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7079/45875767.jpg)
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7312/26984790.jpg)
Quote from: janie13 on May 24, 2010, 02:40 PM
Quote from: White Wrist on May 24, 2010, 01:08 AM
Quote from: wax on May 23, 2010, 07:18 PM
Quote from: White Wrist on May 23, 2010, 06:45 PM
anyone knows, wich shoes are chino wearing in the skatebord with flowers?
(http://www.hushpuppies.com/US/Content/images/hush-puppies-logo.gif) let me guess....you have a goatee, short hair, and long side burns to also try to look like him? :)
sure. but i am prettier.
That is not possible.
damn. some1 just got moted
(http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/Methodicallymental/wp4_t2.jpg)
(http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/Methodicallymental/Deftonesmess.jpg)
(http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/Methodicallymental/149.jpg)
(http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/Methodicallymental/image43_t2.jpg)
(http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/Methodicallymental/chinobars.jpg)
(http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/Methodicallymental/Chinomaxandgrady.jpg)
(http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/Methodicallymental/image108_t2b.jpg)
(http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/Methodicallymental/Chinolaptopgrady.jpg)
(http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/Methodicallymental/band032.jpg)
(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2866/chijg.jpg)
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/7420/cnostp.jpg)
(http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/Methodicallymental/image89_t2.jpg)
(http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/Methodicallymental/2000_groupe03.jpg)
(http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/Methodicallymental/lol-1.jpg)
(http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/Methodicallymental/out033321_t2.jpg)
(http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/Methodicallymental/out033323_t2.jpg)
(http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/Methodicallymental/deftones_truck.jpg)
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/772/stfhi.jpg)
Quote from: wax on May 24, 2010, 09:08 PM
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7312/26984790.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7312/26984790.jpg)
HOLY SHIT.
(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8622/kcno.jpg)
Quote from: Vesanic on May 25, 2010, 01:39 AM
Quote from: wax on May 24, 2010, 09:08 PM
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7312/26984790.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7312/26984790.jpg)
HOLY SHIT.
nice pic!
more http://img175.imageshack.us/g/416952844d71de7dea.jpg/ (http://img175.imageshack.us/g/416952844d71de7dea.jpg/)
(http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/1782/stepi.jpg)
To follow the great posts of SomeOf (and Wax as well):
METAL HAMMER DEC 1997
(http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/5469/5469726-holder-2162d55d61d3e533b05cf89a5893c8b4.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=5469726&showlnk=0) (http://img4.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/5469/5469727-holder-97fa5e0e582b4b9ca343d60d4d82a8e7.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=5469727&showlnk=0) (http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/5469/5469728-holder-62cecb1499e071209a7beb0abe878a9d.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=5469728&showlnk=0) (http://img4.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/5469/5469729-holder-371969c8f621175712ed5df313cef801.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=5469729&showlnk=0) (http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/5469/5469730-holder-f984c5a539d5421e07f5e08c376fb015.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=5469730&showlnk=0) (http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/5469/5469731-holder-8e9967b128cd5fd41fa8139f95c90bd1.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=5469731&showlnk=0) (http://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/5469/5469732-holder-1c0a6ed89b18fc13f13d30b7e0ddffdc.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=5469732&showlnk=0) (http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/5469/5469733-holder-6b438e003658639579aff3ece0360c6d.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=5469733&showlnk=0) (http://img4.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/5469/5469741-holder-9163a05d9e232cf610c8422e6548521a.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=5469741&showlnk=0) (http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/5469/5469734-holder-796edec09b7c04c0fe832e3baf3301fb.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=5469734&showlnk=0) (http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/5469/5469742-holder-867459ba07926ab294c7b4d0d54ba968.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=5469742&showlnk=0)
Part 2 of the really interesting interview of Chino by musiquemag.com, this part gives good details about Chi, Eros, etc:
[Part 2] Very cool interview of Chino Moreno for Musiquemag.com 2010 [Sous-titres français] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQmIgQ4-chA#ws)
Thank you Sly.
I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of your scans!
This weekend I will post the other scan that I have.
Quote from: slyartwork on May 24, 2010, 06:57 PM
Quote from: Martin on May 24, 2010, 11:37 AM
Quote from: SomeOf on May 15, 2010, 02:49 PM
http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/9930491081839540_f_1.jpg (http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/9930491081839540_f_1.jpg)
Is that Grady?
Nope, it's Sonny Mayugba of Phallucy.
Aha, allright. Wouldn't be able to reconize him though.
It was taken on a Cattle Club dancenight. I know this cuz it was on defjef's sacto ca page once...
More scans:
METAL HAMMER MAR 1998
(http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/5471/5471235-holder-9151fe43631828ffa2d507c89dbffdc1.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=5471235&showlnk=0) (http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/5471/5471236-holder-22ec327dd439eb887e778e86fa0f5ae0.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=5471236&showlnk=0) (http://img4.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/5471/5471238-holder-5999125d0c4e88cd67f16a4ac255cdd2.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=5471238&showlnk=0)
(http://img4.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/5471/5471239-holder-2ac85b49e630e042c18c684c32b75e29.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=5471239&showlnk=0) (http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/5471/5471240-holder-ed9de83c24ec1df4423406127d954ca0.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=5471240&showlnk=0) (http://img4.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/5471/5471241-holder-b311f09207b3801138175a748c5c7f36.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=5471241&showlnk=0) (http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/5471/5471242-holder-6db72d648467d626dd824a031b3d2820.jpg) (http://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=5471242&showlnk=0)
(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/2739/camillo.jpg)
Chino and Jon Davis pre-Adrenaline is someone wearing jnco?
(http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/3743/cnojond.jpg)
(http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/1378/cnojond2.jpg)
Thank you for the scans, sly. I read every single one of the interviews in deftones world, but these you have posted contain a lot of unknown information (at least for me).
(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/9671/cam1y.jpg)
(http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/8868/cam2.jpg)
(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1477/cam3m.jpg)
(http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/1326/cam4j.jpg)
damn dude lots of old stuff..
thanks a LOT!
Wax got some great pix!
(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6158/def24.jpg)
(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/8756/def25.jpg)
(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5012/def27.jpg)
(http://www.rocksound.tv/images/uploads/rsuk136cover_600.jpg)
w00t! a poster!
Chino's Korn t-shirt spotted !
Quote from: wax on May 25, 2010, 02:12 AM
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8622/kcno.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8622/kcno.jpg)
Wax you've got some great pics (thank you, by the way!) but this one's awful. Why on earth are Chino's lips photoshopped??? ???
KKKKK ULU double page review in latest Kerrang. (And a Poster :P)
Scans!
Quote from: anguria on May 26, 2010, 01:36 PM
Quote from: wax on May 25, 2010, 02:12 AM
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8622/kcno.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8622/kcno.jpg)
Wax you've got some great pics (thank you, by the way!) but this one's awful. Why on earth are Chino's lips photoshopped??? ???
thats how it was given to me (http://www.knittinghelp.com/forum/images/smilies/aug08_022.gif)
^ beard = pubic hair
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/defsteve/deftones/deftonesulu1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/defsteve/deftones/deftonesulu2.jpg)
(http://mikeshinodalp.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/1222913732-22332-msandcminstudio.jpg?w=635)
chino moreno and mike shinoda while EROS era. Mike told that the album (EROS) is really good album.
KKK=Good
Oops.
Quote from: epistaxis on May 26, 2010, 08:00 PM
KKK=Good
Oops.
Penicks made that joke already. ;D
chino looks oooooold
Nice interview with Stef and Frank before live @ La Boule Noire, Paris.
http://www.musicactu.com/actualite-musique/127786/deftones-nous-ne-remachons-pas-nos-vieux-albums/#xtor=AL-118 (http://www.musicactu.com/actualite-musique/127786/deftones-nous-ne-remachons-pas-nos-vieux-albums/#xtor=AL-118)
http://www.myyearbook.com/?mysession=bWFnX2FydGljbGVfcmVhZCZhaWQ9MzUzNjc= (http://www.myyearbook.com/?mysession=bWFnX2FydGljbGVfcmVhZCZhaWQ9MzUzNjc=)
Quote from: wax on May 26, 2010, 04:43 PM
Quote from: anguria on May 26, 2010, 01:36 PM
Quote from: wax on May 25, 2010, 02:12 AM
Wax you've got some great pics (thank you, by the way!) but this one's awful. Why on earth are Chino's lips photoshopped??? ???
thats how it was given to me (http://www.knittinghelp.com/forum/images/smilies/aug08_022.gif)
Quote from: wax on May 26, 2010, 04:43 PM
Quote from: anguria on May 26, 2010, 01:36 PM
Quote from: wax on May 25, 2010, 02:12 AM
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8622/kcno.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8622/kcno.jpg)[
Wax you've got some great pics (thank you, by the way!) but this one's awful. Why on earth are Chino's lips photoshopped??? ???
thats how it was given to me (http://www.knittinghelp.com/forum/images/smilies/aug08_022.gif)
HAHAAHHA EPIC LOL!
Quote from: defsteve on May 26, 2010, 07:47 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/defsteve/deftones/deftonesulu1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/defsteve/deftones/deftonesulu2.jpg)
Bad ass!
(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/134/8/5/Worship_by_AnotherHypocrit.jpg)
2 other shots from ULU, London: http://anotherhypocrit.deviantart.com/gallery/#Deftones-London-12-05-2010 (http://anotherhypocrit.deviantart.com/gallery/#Deftones-London-12-05-2010)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l2gly3wl6u1qbv1x2o1_500.jpg)
Chino and Frank with Cage (rapper)
nice pics from live at The Majestic Theatre in Madison, WI, may 25, 2010
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4048/4641488021_2035d55d4b.jpg)
download: http://www.flickr.com/photos/joeybaltimore/sets/72157624016393807/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/joeybaltimore/sets/72157624016393807/)
(http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/8004930004deft.jpg)
(http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/21739242c47ea12178893212e45b6702ddafa0_396x500.jpg) (http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/7867056ed4ec0708f2b9cffa8a9c2d6ffe30_373x500.jpg)
(http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/228483340327.jpg) (http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/327992077_1_.jpg)
(http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/9234179484_lg.jpg) (http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/95988379486_lg.jpg) (http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/4680712101_deftones13.jpg)
(http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/16935l_dacfb2c39de49efd94013fc1c613e91e.jpg) (http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/612778uh001419.jpg) (http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/770229smokedeftones2000.jpg)
(http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/927760VAN2000080403.jpg)
PLEASE STOP QUOTING THE PICTURES, THEY'RE BIG ENOUGH ALREADY.
(http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/98488100.jpg)
(http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/55101110.jpg) (http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/74019deftones_03.jpg) (http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/319668chino_bw.jpg)
(http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/625196chinochipic.jpg)
(http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/8603941199795594_f.jpg) (http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/88984844475.png)
(http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/5636513258972806_80674026fd_o.jpg) (http://img7.hostingpics.net/pics/290550image56.jpg)
Quote from: Vesanic on May 28, 2010, 06:44 PM
PLEASE STOP QUOTING THE PICTURES, THEY'RE BIG ENOUGH ALREADY.
http://www.musicradar.com/totalguitar/interview-deftones-guitarist-stef-carpenter-part-two-252977 (http://www.musicradar.com/totalguitar/interview-deftones-guitarist-stef-carpenter-part-two-252977)
SO there's a song that didn't make the record. I LOVE THAT. Maybe with the next signle they will release it, you can only hope.
ANYBODY HAS ANOTHER CD COVER OF AROUND THE FUR? BESIDES THE GIRL BIKINI COVER
Old flyer I have....
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/defsteve/Far/OldFarFlyer.jpg)
Quote from: pony_01 on May 29, 2010, 03:48 AM
ANYBODY HAS ANOTHER CD COVER OF AROUND THE FUR? BESIDES THE GIRL BIKINI COVER
(http://991.com/newGallery/Deftones-Around-The-Fur---248471.jpg)
The Deftones Interview — "Creep Show' – Noisecreep (blog)
May 28, 2010
The Deftones — Chino Moreno, Stephen Carpenter, Abe Cunningham, Frank Delgado and Sergio Vega — are one of my all-time favorite bands, and 2000's 'White Pony' is my favorite album of the '00s. So when they entered our studios for a "Creep Show' episode recently, I was thrilled that they were ready, willing and able to talk about everything going on with the band in the here and the now, as well as to reflect on how they got to the level they are currently at.
While it was a "chorizo party" of five dudes and one girl, it was a frank, open round table chat. With 22 years of bandhood in the rear view and many more in front of them, the 'Tones finish each other's sentences and literally act like a band of brothers. Their new album, 'Diamond Eyes,' is out now and if you've not yet heard it, you're doing yourself a disservice, as it's one of their most cohesive releases and can make lightning shoot out of your living room wall.
They updated us on bassist Chi Cheng's progress and encouraged fans to visit http://www.oneloveforchi.com (http://www.oneloveforchi.com) for updates and ways to help Cheng with his recovery process, as he was injured in a car accident in November 2008, which left him in a minimally conscious state. The also talked about their knack for quiet-loud dynamics, the sonic tension — perceived or otherwise — between vocalist Moreno and guitarist Carpenter, as well as the shelved-but-not-forgotten album 'Eros,' which they were working on at the time of Cheng's accident.
Moreno reveals that 'Diamond Eyes' was recorded in a month, whereas 2006's 'Saturday Night Wrist' was recorded over several years and at different places. The band discussed Meshuggah worship, touring plans and their upcoming trek on the BlackDiamondSkye Tour with Alice in Chains and Mastodon and how they've toured with everyone from Vega's Quicksand, Thursday, Snapcase to more radio-driven acts like Incubus and Godsmack, proving that the Deftones have universal appeal.They also engaged in a little East Coast vs. West Coast smack talk, but it was all love.
So sit back, relax and listen to Moreno and his mates offer their take on Deftones then and Deftones now. You will be riveted.
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The PROPER watchable Noisecreep 'Creep Show' video
The Deftones Interview -- ''Creep Show'
http://video.aol.com/aolvideo/AOL (http://video.aol.com/aolvideo/AOL) Music/deftones-interview/88481216001
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http://www.noisecreep.com/2010/05/28/the-deftones-interview-creep-show/ (http://www.noisecreep.com/2010/05/28/the-deftones-interview-creep-show/)
Hah. What's with the shades?
Quote from: Martin on May 29, 2010, 12:25 PM
Hah. What's with the shades?
Exactly what I was thinking, she must be a fangirl and too shy to show her eyes to the band.
I love how Stef is completely bored though.. this must be like talking to some random fan after every show.. same old shit. Still.. it's nice seeing them all being interviewed together.
Pretty funny thing about keeping the setlist interesting. We could not really notice anything of that the last tour!
Cool thread :):)
Does somebody know what the full modell name of the blue esp is that stef is holding in its hands? Some say its an horizon, some say its an ltd ::)
Quote from: Martin on May 29, 2010, 12:25 PM
Hah. What's with the shades?
Quote from: Subliminal on May 29, 2010, 03:54 PM
Exactly what I was thinking, she must be a fangirl and too shy to show her eyes to the band.
if she would be without those huge shades everyone would be like "damn woman, hide yr face with some big shades or something"
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Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on May 29, 2010, 09:29 PMif she would be without those huge shades everyone would be like "damn woman, hide yr face with some big shades or something"
hahahaha. nice one.....
I like the old school ones from Vanessa. These are pretty rare as well:
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I've never seen these pictures before Sly! Thank you for sharing, I want more :-*
Thanks some of and sly. I really love the old school pictures era, and have never seen them in better quality. If you don't mind we're having a deftones/tool party next saturday on a pub we're associated with and are gonna play, and I'd like to know if some of these can be proyected.
Would be cool. I like the old ones too.
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Wallpapers
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Has someone got a picture of Chino onstage with Maynard ?
Quote from: Vesanic on May 31, 2010, 08:19 PM
Has someone got a picture of Chino onstage with Maynard ?
I've got everything:
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Fuck, Sly, thanks. That is from Summersault Festival 2000 ?
Yes, one of the 2 times they performed it with Maynard. Other one was Roskilde 2001. Both live versions are available as audio.
Speaking of which... Do you have the full audio of Roskilde 2001? I was just listening to Passenger and the quality of the recording is great. Chino's singing though....
Yeah, I have a full audio bootleg. MP3, though.
I only collect mp3 so no worries. Wanna uhhh... donate?? hehe
Dude, its just me or ...
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Quote from: Far away on Jun 01, 2010, 04:30 PM
Dude, its just me or ...
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LMAO
Quote from: slyartwork on Jun 01, 2010, 04:21 PM
I only collect mp3 so no worries. Wanna uhhh... donate?? hehe
Haha no worries I'll upload that for you, it'll be up very soon.
Dude, what would WE do without you
This place would be better, I guess.
Enjoy
http://www.mediafire.com/?nwlmtfmnwzm (http://www.mediafire.com/?nwlmtfmnwzm)
Thank you!
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info on Chinos jacket and shirt??
Quote from: ill.confuse.them on Jun 03, 2010, 06:06 AM
info on Chinos jacket and shirt??
why? you gonna buy the same so you can be like him?
jacket is an Atticus, see the brand logo on the chest.
^why do you care?
why do you care if i care? have a good day
meh
Sly's ownage.
Quote from: slyartwork on Jun 03, 2010, 06:22 AM
Quote from: ill.confuse.them on Jun 03, 2010, 06:06 AM
info on Chinos jacket and shirt??
why? you gonna buy the same so you can be like him?
jacket is an Atticus, see the brand logo on the chest.
i see a lot of chino copy cats out there... even men a lot older than he really its men with goats that is a funny brand logo however (http://img.buzznet.com/assets/imgx/7/5/9/2/7/2/1/orig-7592721.jpg)
Quote from: slyartwork on Jun 03, 2010, 06:22 AM
Quote from: ill.confuse.them on Jun 03, 2010, 06:06 AM
info on Chinos jacket and shirt??
why? you gonna buy the same so you can be like him?
Quote from: ill.confuse.them on Jun 03, 2010, 06:30 AM
^why do you care?
Quote from: slyartwork on Jun 03, 2010, 06:46 AM
why do you care if i care? have a good day
What an idiotic exchange. Everyone gets their fashion/style from something/someone else.
Quote from: fetisher on Jun 03, 2010, 08:41 PM
What an idiotic exchange. Everyone gets their fashion/style from something/someone else.
Obviously you never heard about something called personality.
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 03, 2010, 08:42 PM
Quote from: fetisher on Jun 03, 2010, 08:41 PM
What an idiotic exchange. Everyone gets their fashion/style from something/someone else.
Obviously you never heard about something called personality.
Because personality is based on what you wear. ::)
Quote from: fetisher on Jun 03, 2010, 08:45 PM
Because personality is based on what you wear. ::)
Actually, it is a bit, for a lot of people.
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 03, 2010, 08:46 PM
Quote from: fetisher on Jun 03, 2010, 08:45 PM
Because personality is based on what you wear. ::)
Actually, it is a bit, for a lot of people.
So, since 'a lot of people' don't sew their own clothes, therefore purchasing them from department stores, or catalogs, or the internet (any of which items they may have seen on a friend, or a magazine, or an artist, or a celebrity or none of the above), all of which items were clearly designed by someone that wasn't the person purchasing them, I guess 'a lot of people' don't have personalities?
Most image-conscious human beings on the planet Earth get their style (or have at one point in their lives) ideas from someone else. You, me, and (gasp) even the infalliible Mr. Moreno. There's nothing wrong with it. There's even a booming business for it. It's called advertising.
So why jump all over someone for asking what Chino is wearing?
Quote from: fetisher on Jun 03, 2010, 09:03 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 03, 2010, 08:46 PM
Quote from: fetisher on Jun 03, 2010, 08:45 PM
Because personality is based on what you wear. ::)
Actually, it is a bit, for a lot of people.
So, since 'a lot of people' don't sew their own clothes, therefore purchasing them from department stores, or catalogs, or the internet (any of which items they may have seen on a friend, or a magazine, or an artist, or a celebrity or none of the above), all of which items were clearly designed by someone that wasn't the person purchasing them, I guess 'a lot of people' don't have personalities?
Most image-conscious human beings on the planet Earth get their style (or have at one point in their lives) ideas from someone else. You, me, and (gasp) even the infalliible Mr. Moreno. There's nothing wrong with it. There's even a booming business for it. It's called advertising.
So why jump all over someone for asking what Chino is wearing?
i think it has more to do with individuality than personality unless youre trying to adopt the personality of someone else which i think a lot of ppl do consciously or not.. or feel like or want to belong to a certain part of a group... through what you wear, makeup, facial hair, jewelry, ink, etc. look at tribes or gangs even they identify themselves with a lot of wearing the same things or things, looking the same, and adorning themselves similarly with the same stuff one could argue that by being a deftones fan it makes sense to try to look like someone from the band as its a way to connect make sense or too deep?
*on a side note, i proudly sew and make ALL of my own clothes currently perfecting my millinery skills to make a wellington
Back on topic.... ::)
Deftones' Stephen Carpenter, Sergio Vega on Diamond Eyes
http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/deftones-stephen-carpenter-sergio-vega-on-diamond-eyes-253377 (http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/deftones-stephen-carpenter-sergio-vega-on-diamond-eyes-253377)
Quote from: wax on Jun 03, 2010, 09:16 PM
make sense or too deep?
Dude,
none of your posts make any sense. ;D
fetisher's ownage
Quote from: ill.confuse.them on Jun 03, 2010, 10:41 PM
fetisher's ownage
Please don't ask what kind of shower gel Chino uses, thanks.
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 03, 2010, 10:43 PM
Quote from: ill.confuse.them on Jun 03, 2010, 10:41 PM
fetisher's ownage
Please don't ask what kind of shower gel Chino uses, thanks.
do you have any video of what hair gel he uses?
Quote from: wax on Jun 03, 2010, 10:50 PM
do you have any video of what hair gel he uses?
Don't know about you but I'm more interested in music. Sorry.
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 03, 2010, 10:51 PM
Quote from: wax on Jun 03, 2010, 10:50 PM
do you have any video of what hair gel he uses?
Don't know about you but I'm more interested in music. Sorry.
;D
Hey wait, I wanna know about the gel. I'm having a party this saturday...and that gel would make it a KNIFE prty, you get it guys? huh?
Quote from: defsteve on Jun 03, 2010, 09:28 PM
Back on topic.... ::)
"Deftones pictures, interviews, magazine scans"
please!
Murrays Pomade, look it up..and good luck
my god people.... i wasnt really asking........ ;D
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Sugar Ray?
Deftones on Rockline & Royal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b90X2lNGNzc#)
Deftones were on a radio show (Rockline) and this user called them to talk about royal
Does anyone has this full interview or can i find it?
Cool explanation!
the latest issue of sacramento magazine sacmag.com no link on the website has an interview with frank its all the same shit every other interview and review has asked and said; hows chi?, whats up with eros?, etc. and no pictures maybe if you email someone there theyll put it up but theres nothing really new like i said
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Chino is looking quite sexy these days. He's not fat, but he's not too skinny. He's at a good weight right now.
Quote from: wax on Jun 06, 2010, 01:03 AM
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baby cry
his look is so 2000 on this pic. i hate it..
ALTERNATIVE PRESS NOV 1998
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yeah man dont be selfish and tell us what kind of body gel he uses.....while youre at it might as well throw in his preferred brand of deodorant..i wanna get that Chino smell you know...pm me if you wanna keep it a secret... :P
i wonder if he's using gillette or wilkinson to shave his balls?
Quote from: stuka on Jun 07, 2010, 04:52 PM
i wonder if he's using gillette or wilkinson to shave his balls?
How do you know he shaves? :-\
;D
Quote from: stuka on Jun 07, 2010, 04:52 PM
i wonder if he's using gillette or wilkinson to shave his balls?
(http://www.beautyheaven.com.au/product_images/5185/Nad_s_Natural_Hair_Removal_Gel_small.jpg)
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Abe on Dillinger Escape Plan:
http://www.rocksound.tv/news/article/download-2010-band-on-band-preview-deftones-on-the-dillinger-escape-plan (http://www.rocksound.tv/news/article/download-2010-band-on-band-preview-deftones-on-the-dillinger-escape-plan)
i think this is the first time i hear greg "singing"
Quote from: stuka on Jun 08, 2010, 05:39 PM
i think this is the first time i hear greg "singing"
then you obviously never listened to Dillinger Escape Plan.
example: The Dillinger Escape Plan - "Unretrofied" Relapse Records (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QNVwH8ROn4#)
Quote from: AroundThePonyDK on Jun 08, 2010, 06:12 PM
Quote from: stuka on Jun 08, 2010, 05:39 PM
i think this is the first time i hear greg "singing"
then you obviously never listened to Dillinger Escape Plan.
example: The Dillinger Escape Plan - "Unretrofied" Relapse Records (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QNVwH8ROn4#)
ownded haha ;D
i love that song
Quote from: AroundThePonyDK on Jun 08, 2010, 06:12 PM
then you obviously never listened to Dillinger Escape Plan.
indeed not that much dude
Interview on MTV:
http://www.mtv.com/videos/interview/deftones/522978/buzzworthy-blog-exclusive-deftones.jhtml (http://www.mtv.com/videos/interview/deftones/522978/buzzworthy-blog-exclusive-deftones.jhtml)
Steph (L)!!!
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 11, 2010, 10:13 PM
Interview on MTV:
http://www.mtv.com/videos/interview/deftones/522978/buzzworthy-blog-exclusive-deftones.jhtml (http://www.mtv.com/videos/interview/deftones/522978/buzzworthy-blog-exclusive-deftones.jhtml)
tnx bro
SUPER DOPE photos from the Moscow show, you MUST check this out:
http://letters-2-sky.livejournal.com/251508.html (http://letters-2-sky.livejournal.com/251508.html)
Interview about Download Festival:
http://www.rocksound.tv/news/article/deftones-download-is-gonna-be-more-than-great (http://www.rocksound.tv/news/article/deftones-download-is-gonna-be-more-than-great)
Cool article / interview in Huck :
http://www.huckmagazine.com/features/deftones/ (http://www.huckmagazine.com/features/deftones/)
i don't think i like Frank, he acts arrogant
Deftones At Download 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlWcq9TFl9w#ws)
^ priceless signature i love his turtle epic face
another interview from download fest:
The Deftones Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBhn9MV0iKs#ws)
that is one impressive haircut
lol at the end of the last interview
yeah nice interview :)
very cool live photos from show in moscow:
http://www.myasorubka.ru/photos.phtml?gallery_id=285 (http://www.myasorubka.ru/photos.phtml?gallery_id=285)
http://www.a1tv.ru/?id=158617 (http://www.a1tv.ru/?id=158617)
http://epsil.livejournal.com/43797.html (http://epsil.livejournal.com/43797.html)
http://stommm.livejournal.com/63021.html (http://stommm.livejournal.com/63021.html)
http://community.livejournal.com/koncert_photo/1309038.html (http://community.livejournal.com/koncert_photo/1309038.html)
...and let me know what this girl saw on stage:
(http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/54/vitvitskiy.e2/0_481f7_99220d8_orig.jpg)
? ;D
Chino's ASS
Quote from: deftfan on Jun 13, 2010, 05:24 PM
...and let me know what this girl saw on stage:? ;D
Maybe Chino pulled a Waldrock in Moscow :)
Deftones: MAX Tour Stories Part 1 (Cinemax) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzyE7yOYrnM#ws)
Deftones: MAX Tour Stories Part 2 (Cinemax) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXcFFAXaY-U#ws)
knives...in Portugal 8)
Quote from: Hidalgo on Jun 12, 2010, 05:54 AM
i don't think i like Frank, he acts arrogant
He looks like an asshole. Maybe he's just uncomfortable.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Jun 12, 2010, 05:54 AM
i don't think i like Frank, he acts arrogant
The guy is a great musician. He's allowed to be arrogant.
Quote from: Inkblades on Jun 14, 2010, 10:31 PM
The guy is a great musician. He's allowed to be arrogant.
Nah man, one Maynard James Keenan is enough.
For all you tech geeks out there, here's a new EQ article on the production of Diamond Eyes:
http://eqmag.com/article/riff-riff-/June-2010/113865 (http://eqmag.com/article/riff-riff-/June-2010/113865)
Download pics
http://www.rocksound.tv/index.php/photos/article/download-2010-deftones-live-and-loud (http://www.rocksound.tv/index.php/photos/article/download-2010-deftones-live-and-loud)
"It wouldn't have been my favorite record. I mean, it's pretty good but I don't think it fully shows what we're capable of. Diamond Eyes sounds more 'tense'."
Chino being asked about Eros in a short interview in a Belgian newspaper.
2 page 10/10 ULU review in latest Metal Hammer
http://prod1.cmj.com/articles/display_article.php?id=186048216 (http://prod1.cmj.com/articles/display_article.php?id=186048216)
Quote from: Penicks on Jun 15, 2010, 10:35 AM
"It wouldn't have been my favorite record. I mean, it's pretty good but I don't think it fully shows what we're capable of. Diamond Eyes sounds more 'tense'."
Chino being asked about Eros in a short interview in a Belgian newspaper.
I read things like this and I don't even care to hear the album.
Quote from: defsteve on Jun 16, 2010, 07:51 PM
2 page 10/10 ULU review in latest Metal Hammer
(http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/Methodicallymental/Download%202010/ULUreviewMetalhammer.jpg) (http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/Methodicallymental/Download%202010/ULUreviewMetalhammer3.jpg) (http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/Methodicallymental/Download%202010/ULUreviewMetalhammercloseup.jpg) (http://i369.photobucket.com/albums/oo139/Methodicallymental/Download%202010/ULUreviewMetalhammercloseup2.jpg)
LOL!!!!
Chino Morino?!!
i just received my "huck" paper edition. really cool.
i will put some scans here in the next days.
Quote from: White Wrist on Jun 17, 2010, 09:19 PM
i just received my "huck" paper edition. really cool.
i will put some scans here in the next days.
that'd be great! been dying to see this
Quote from: fetisher on Jun 14, 2010, 09:12 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Jun 12, 2010, 05:54 AM
i don't think i like Frank, he acts arrogant
He looks like an asshole. Maybe he's just uncomfortable.
i always thought he was a dick, personally, just from talking to him and even chillin with them on the bus he just kinda sat there and didn't say much...
but recently he seems to be really appreciative of the fans, he probably got a lot of people commending him on the new album for once and actually meaning it... he was really enthusiastic and talkative and shit the last few times i talked to him recently
Here you go (not the best quality, but, not bad)
Huck #21 - Deftones
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(http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n45/whiteweist/Deftones21_Huck_Magazine/bb7e9d4a.jpg)
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done!
In the cinemax interview chino talks about the concert he got tackled in and shit .. I've heard the audio from this but is there any video of it?
Thks White Wrist !
http://www.metalsucks.net/2010/06/11/all-eyes-on-the-deftones-the-stephen-carpenter-interview/ (http://www.metalsucks.net/2010/06/11/all-eyes-on-the-deftones-the-stephen-carpenter-interview/)
Interview from Copenhell Festival: http://gaffa.dk/tv/ (http://gaffa.dk/tv/)
Thank you white wrists for the effort. Ohh, and steve for the last interview, two of the best ones so far.
Deftones A-One news (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCRxOzoJCmc#)
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 21, 2010, 03:05 AM
Deftones A-One news (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCRxOzoJCmc#)
WTF with the language.....
Quote from: tarkil on Jun 21, 2010, 03:36 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 21, 2010, 03:05 AM
Deftones A-One news (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCRxOzoJCmc#)
WTF with the language.....
Didn't you notice it's in Russian? :D
Maybe some people here speak russian. :D
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 21, 2010, 06:58 PM
Maybe some people here speak russian. :D
Be shure, here i am :)
Feel free to translate it. ;)
Nice to know they're spreading the word about Chi in Russian news! :) They mentioned Chi several times and coma once. That's about what I understood.
Haha, the dude doing the voice over for Abe was funny compared to Chinos..
Huck Magazine - Outtakes
http://issuu.com/huckmagazine/docs/deftones (http://issuu.com/huckmagazine/docs/deftones)
Quote from: White Wrist on Jun 22, 2010, 12:02 PM
Huck Magazine - Outtakes
http://issuu.com/huckmagazine/docs/deftones (http://issuu.com/huckmagazine/docs/deftones)
Very nice. Thank you.
pictures from Le Cabaret Vert, France:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3435/3879366589_7b8d83f3c2.jpg)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/frf_kmeron/sets/72157622100457843/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/frf_kmeron/sets/72157622100457843/)
Another russian interview...
http://deftones.ru/pressa/stephen-carpenter-jokingly-say-if-i-am-holding-guitar-i-can-write-song.html (http://deftones.ru/pressa/stephen-carpenter-jokingly-say-if-i-am-holding-guitar-i-can-write-song.html)
No, Vesanic!!! NO! It's not a russian interview, i'm just translated to russian an interview with Stef with Total Guitar magazin. Here is in english: http://www.musicradar.com/totalguitar/interview-deftones-guitarist-stef-carpenter-part-two-252977 (http://www.musicradar.com/totalguitar/interview-deftones-guitarist-stef-carpenter-part-two-252977) I think i've found the link to this interview in this topic. But thanks for sharing:)
:D
(http://www.altpress.com/images/issues/cover_265_1aug10_lg.jpg)
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http://cgi.ebay.fr/Front-144-India-Hannah-The-Deftones-/310228332320?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Magazines&hash=item483b0caf20#ht_500wt_947 (http://cgi.ebay.fr/Front-144-India-Hannah-The-Deftones-/310228332320?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Magazines&hash=item483b0caf20#ht_500wt_947)
Haha dude what the fuck ?
http://issuu.com/magxonline/docs/magx53 (http://issuu.com/magxonline/docs/magx53)
Free .pdf download. You might have to register.
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 23, 2010, 10:12 PM
http://cgi.ebay.fr/Front-144-India-Hannah-The-Deftones-/310228332320?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Magazines&hash=item483b0caf20#ht_500wt_947 (http://cgi.ebay.fr/Front-144-India-Hannah-The-Deftones-/310228332320?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Magazines&hash=item483b0caf20#ht_500wt_947)
Haha dude what the fuck ?
Haha that Chino in the right corner :')
I ordered the Huck magazine, man those pictures are amazing.
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l4lecgyZsY1qzbeioo1_500.jpg)
someone scan the interview and the tits
GO
She's Hot!
GO GO GO
ahahahahahha
yeah i wanna see some tits and 'tones
Quote from: Oldnewtype on Jun 26, 2010, 11:29 PM
some tits and 'tones
My life in a couple of words.
http://kettonegy.blog.hu/2010/06/24/deftones_2 (http://kettonegy.blog.hu/2010/06/24/deftones_2)
videointerview from nova rock 2010
I already ordered the mag last week, just a matter of time now. :)
proof or gtfo
Quote from: Oldnewtype on Jun 26, 2010, 11:29 PM
yeah i wanna see some tits and 'tones
I'd rather see some 'tones' tits! ;D
I'm curious to read the article, and the girl on the cover is fly.
Patiently waitin' for the scans....
here we go, only photographed, don't have a scanner!
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/68/dsc01054du.th.jpg) (http://img30.imageshack.us/i/dsc01054du.jpg/)(http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/4462/dsc01055.th.jpg) (http://img804.imageshack.us/i/dsc01055.jpg/)(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/9909/dsc01056j.th.jpg) (http://img28.imageshack.us/i/dsc01056j.jpg/)
on the third page they made a mistake. it says "Chi and Abe's favorite..."
and if you people want to see the chick, buy the magazine here
http://frontmag.myshopify.com/collections/magazines/products/front-issue-144 (http://frontmag.myshopify.com/collections/magazines/products/front-issue-144)
it's not that expensive.
"In a lot of jobs, you get shit for wearing shorts. In Deftones, you fuckers live in shorts." ;D
Quote from: dawg on Jun 28, 2010, 11:21 AM
here we go, only photographed, don't have a scanner!
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/68/dsc01054du.th.jpg) (http://img30.imageshack.us/i/dsc01054du.jpg/)(http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/4462/dsc01055.th.jpg) (http://img804.imageshack.us/i/dsc01055.jpg/)(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/9909/dsc01056j.th.jpg) (http://img28.imageshack.us/i/dsc01056j.jpg/)
on the third page they made a mistake. it says "Chi and Abe's favorite..."
and if you people want to see the chick, buy the magazine here
http://frontmag.myshopify.com/collections/magazines/products/front-issue-144 (http://frontmag.myshopify.com/collections/magazines/products/front-issue-144)
it's not that expensive.
Thank you for the picture/scan, I was really curious to read a deftones interview from a magazine with such an er... unusual cover!
Good and different interview.
Obi-Wan Moreno
This is the kind of interview people used to do back in ATF era.
Thank you for sharing brotha!
now scan da tits.
^ Haha! Yeah really!
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Jun 29, 2010, 01:24 AM
This is the kind of interview people used to do back in ATF era.
Thank you for sharing brotha!
now scan da tits.
+100
i bought the mag yesterday... i could post the tits
Quote from: stuka on Jun 29, 2010, 06:36 PM
i bought the mag yesterday... i could post the tits
Post the tits!!!
Damn, you guys, internet is full of tits, use it.
OMG OMG ! There's a strict no porn rule mister moderator :
QuoteSpamming and Unacceptable Content
Posts of any advertorial nature selling or promoting products or other websites is strictly forbidden.Posts of a racist nature, posts containing pornography or posts containing or linking to warez will be instantly removed.
;) ;)
those pics worked out great dawg, thanks
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 30, 2010, 10:17 AM
Damn, you guys, internet is full of tits, use it.
word!
I think the internet would lose their last 5% remaining manners when people started scanning all kind of magazines!
Imagine there wouldn't be any printed media...
and seriously, the front people ship almost worldwide and for 10$ you can't say it's expensive for a foreign magazine.
plus the mag is really awesome if you are interested in all that fashion stuff, music, sport, girls and humor.
now lock this bitch, versanic!!!
Quote from: tarkil on Jun 30, 2010, 11:32 AM
OMG OMG ! There's a strict no porn rule mister moderator :
QuoteSpamming and Unacceptable Content
Posts of any advertorial nature selling or promoting products or other websites is strictly forbidden.Posts of a racist nature, posts containing pornography or posts containing or linking to warez will be instantly removed.
;) ;)
A topless woman is hardly pornographic.
AAAH you fucking snitches! I missed the tits! :'(
Quote from: lithium on Jun 30, 2010, 04:27 PM
A topless woman is hardly pornographic.
Tarkil said that because there was a youporn link in my post before I edited it.
(http://es.sonispherefestival.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/deftones.jpg)
Chino's pants are exceedingly ugly. >:(
hahahaah yeah
and the clown shoes
Quote from: from_musings on Jul 01, 2010, 12:45 PM
Chino's pants are exceedingly ugly. >:(
Yep. Luckily, he decided not to wear them anymore. At least, he's not wearing them on tour.
I was wondering around a WH-Smith's (which to non UK people is basically a big news agents) and i spyed this magazine.
It has, i think ,11 pages on Deftones, interviewing them about their history and stuff. There is a cool 2 page spread with hand drawn pencil portraits of each band member, listing each of their influences with drawings of some of their influences too.
There is also a page on Far and Bad Brains, which can't be a coincidence.
(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/118/dsc03499j.jpg)
http://www.huckmagazine.com/the-mag/ (http://www.huckmagazine.com/the-mag/)
^^ I just ordered it, stoked to get it!
Quote from: anguria on Jul 01, 2010, 02:29 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Jul 01, 2010, 12:45 PM
Chino's pants are exceedingly ugly. >:(
Yep. Luckily, he decided not to wear them anymore. At least, he's not wearing them on tour.
What does he wear on tour, some kind of Vans or what?
Yeah I've seen lots of gig pictures with him wearing Vans, skate Hi if I'm correct.
Man I want my Huck magazine!
Quote from: wheresmysnare on Jul 01, 2010, 02:40 PM
I was wondering around a WH-Smith's (which to non UK people is basically a big news agents) and i spyed this magazine.
It has, i think ,11 pages on Deftones, interviewing them about their history and stuff. There is a cool 2 page spread with hand drawn pencil portraits of each band member, listing each of their influences with drawings of some of their influences too.
There is also a page on Far and Bad Brains, which can't be a coincidence.
http://www.huckmagazine.com/the-mag/ (http://www.huckmagazine.com/the-mag/)
could you please post more pictures? :)
Didn't White Wrist post some on page 16?
yes. all the scans.
ooops, didn't notice!
Quote from: jv_ on Jun 26, 2010, 12:40 AM
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l4lecgyZsY1qzbeioo1_500.jpg)
someone scan the interview and the tits
GO
Its just me or you guys want them to replace the ATF cover for this!?
http://www.metalhead.ro/interviuri/Deftones_Avem_un_drum_lung_in_fata__Interviu_video_-aid-87238-l-1 (http://www.metalhead.ro/interviuri/Deftones_Avem_un_drum_lung_in_fata__Interviu_video_-aid-87238-l-1)
Steph interview @ Hellfest 2010
Very funny. Steph Carpenter for President 2013!!! ;D
Quote from: from_musings on Jul 01, 2010, 12:45 PM
Chino's pants are exceedingly ugly. >:(
They have a slimming effect. ;)
Today at Getaway Festival in Sweden:
http://i29.tinypic.com/29yr56v.jpg (http://i29.tinypic.com/29yr56v.jpg)
AWESOME interview from 2000 (right after WP released):
http://books.google.com/books?id=qCoEAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA46&ots=bl7t0LWX3a&dq=deftones%20%22mad%20eric's%22&pg=PA42#v=onepage&q&f=false (http://books.google.com/books?id=qCoEAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA46&ots=bl7t0LWX3a&dq=deftones%20%22mad%20eric's%22&pg=PA42#v=onepage&q&f=false)
Quote from: buddyboy101 on Jul 09, 2010, 03:56 AM
AWESOME interview from 2000 (right after WP released):
http://books.google.com/books?id=qCoEAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA46&ots=bl7t0LWX3a&dq=deftones%20%22mad%20eric's%22&pg=PA42#v=onepage&q&f=false (http://books.google.com/books?id=qCoEAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA46&ots=bl7t0LWX3a&dq=deftones%20%22mad%20eric's%22&pg=PA42#v=onepage&q&f=false)
Wow, thanks, man.
Another reason to listen to that album again today. Thanks man! By the way, is it just me or do the peeps from SL the only peeps on the planet that know they are not "THE Deftones"? :-\
Man, I just don't care about that... Deftones are the Deftones. Who fucking cares, seriously.
Interview of Steph:
Rig Rundown - Deftones' Stephen Carpenter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZI8XQsfPbg#ws)
Chill out man. Wipe your ass a little better next time. You sound pissed, didn't think i did. Sorry
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Jul 10, 2010, 05:41 PM
Chill out man. Wipe your ass a little better next time. You sound pissed, didn't think i did. Sorry
Lol, I didn't get angry, you know. I just asked who cares. I wasn't pissed, sorry for that misunderstanding.
Thank you, it's been a good bunch of years without knowing what steph is stepping into. Pretty interesting to see the guitar rig on there. Man, if he has a Van Hallen Mxr phaser why the fuck doesn't he uses it? Deftones music and Phasers mix pretty well.
No worries man. Didn't mean anything, I guess it is easy to misunderstand each other behind a comp. screen where people can't fully show their expressions through these keys. Like me! lol Thanks again though, you are the man, regardless! :)
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Jul 10, 2010, 06:00 PM
No worries man. Didn't mean anything, I guess it is easy to misunderstand each other behind a comp. screen where people can't fully show their expressions through these keys. Like me! lol Thanks again though, you are the man, regardless! :)
I guess that's mostly why SL peeps are pissing each other off all the time, haha. Cheers.
Steph was clearly stoned he couldnt keep his eyes open haha
So i was in the Hard Rock Café in Madrid a few days ago and i was drinking a beer at the bar and i looked next to me and i saw Chino's freaking guitar hanging on the wall, 2 feet away from me. I was like "holy shit".
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5988/foto0879f.jpg)
It's the one he used during the WP recordings and supporting tour.
I didn't know he used something else than his Gibson during the White Pony era.
Quote from: Vesanic on Jul 16, 2010, 10:35 PM
I didn't know he used something else than his Gibson during the White Pony era.
He used the ESP viper at first which looks like the Gibson SG he uses now. but i dont remember him using a telecaster
Quote from: deftones86 on Jul 17, 2010, 06:07 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Jul 16, 2010, 10:35 PM
I didn't know he used something else than his Gibson during the White Pony era.
He used the ESP viper at first which looks like the Gibson SG he uses now. but i dont remember him using a telecaster
correct. He only started using the tele during the SNW era
Quote from: aj on Jul 18, 2010, 11:47 AM
Quote from: deftones86 on Jul 17, 2010, 06:07 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Jul 16, 2010, 10:35 PM
I didn't know he used something else than his Gibson during the White Pony era.
He used the ESP viper at first which looks like the Gibson SG he uses now. but i dont remember him using a telecaster
correct. He only started using the tele during the SNW era
Incorrect. Touring SNW he used Fender Jaguar.
I think he never used Telecaster, except touring w/ Team Sleep, but no that was Yamaha (tele alike)
Quote from: yeah on Jul 18, 2010, 05:03 PM
Quote from: aj on Jul 18, 2010, 11:47 AM
Quote from: deftones86 on Jul 17, 2010, 06:07 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Jul 16, 2010, 10:35 PM
I didn't know he used something else than his Gibson during the White Pony era.
He used the ESP viper at first which looks like the Gibson SG he uses now. but i dont remember him using a telecaster
correct. He only started using the tele during the SNW era
Incorrect. Touring SNW he used Fender Jaguar.
I think he never used Telecaster, except touring w/ Team Sleep, but no that was Yamaha (tele alike)
his main guitar was the jaguar but he definitely used a tele on some songs during the touring prior to and before the release of that album
I've also seen him use a strat during the team sleep tour in 05. I love that Jaguar he used during 06-07.
Huck Magazine #21 - FREE Digital Edition
http://www.huckmagazine.com/blog/huck021-digital-edition/ (http://www.huckmagazine.com/blog/huck021-digital-edition/)
Found this one on the Deftones live project, funny that it's from 1998 ( if it really is ), he looks like the Chino from 2003:
(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/4920/sanstitre1r.png)
Quote from: Penicks on Jul 16, 2010, 03:29 PM
So i was in the Hard Rock Café in Madrid a few days ago and i was drinking a beer at the bar and i looked next to me and i saw Chino's freaking guitar hanging on the wall, 2 feet away from me. I was like "holy shit".
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5988/foto0879f.jpg)
It's the one he used during the WP recordings and supporting tour.
where is this at? what country or what state?
Quote from: TheWatcher on Jul 30, 2010, 06:57 PM
Quote from: Penicks on Jul 16, 2010, 03:29 PM
So i was in the Hard Rock Café in Madrid a few days ago and i was drinking a beer at the bar and i looked next to me and i saw Chino's freaking guitar hanging on the wall, 2 feet away from me. I was like "holy shit".
where is this at? what country or what state?
there´s your answer :P
Spain
Vesanic, you can see the air jordan tshirt in that so called 98 pic. 2003 for sure. He wore that blue jordan shirt a lot during the 2003 tours with the long shaggy hair he was sporting.
Quote from: TheQuietDoom46 on Jul 30, 2010, 08:36 PM
Vesanic, you can see the air jordan tshirt in that so called 98 pic. 2003 for sure. He wore that blue jordan shirt a lot during the 2003 tours with the long shaggy hair he was sporting.
I had the same thought, that's why I said " ( if that really is ) ". Weird mislabelling.
http://www.rickkosick.com/Deftones (http://www.rickkosick.com/Deftones)
Quote from: Vesanic on Jul 31, 2010, 05:03 AM
http://www.rickkosick.com/Deftones (http://www.rickkosick.com/Deftones)
Cool find!
Quote from: defsteve on Jul 18, 2010, 11:42 PM
Huck Magazine #21 - FREE Digital Edition
http://www.huckmagazine.com/blog/huck021-digital-edition/ (http://www.huckmagazine.com/blog/huck021-digital-edition/)
Thanks. That was an awesome article.
Deftones interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZNk_pl4yr4#ws)
http://denver.metromix.com/music/article/q-and-a-deftones/2108703/content (http://denver.metromix.com/music/article/q-and-a-deftones/2108703/content)
interview from nova rock
http://www.indavideo.hu/video/deftones (http://www.indavideo.hu/video/deftones)
Pics from Fresno
http://www.deftones.com/news/2010/08/10/fresno-ca-aug-7 (http://www.deftones.com/news/2010/08/10/fresno-ca-aug-7)
http://www.beatweek.com/coverstory/6907-deftones-interview-2010/ (http://www.beatweek.com/coverstory/6907-deftones-interview-2010/)
Interview w/ Abe. Article dated 8/18/10.
http://www.noisecreep.com/2010/08/18/alice-in-chains-deftones-mastodon-winners-interrogate-blackdiamondskye-video/ (http://www.noisecreep.com/2010/08/18/alice-in-chains-deftones-mastodon-winners-interrogate-blackdiamondskye-video/)
Winners of BDS questions announced. Video of bands.
Quote from: charissa on Aug 18, 2010, 09:08 PM
http://www.beatweek.com/coverstory/6907-deftones-interview-2010/ (http://www.beatweek.com/coverstory/6907-deftones-interview-2010/)
Interview w/ Abe. Article dated 8/18/10.
Thank you very much for posting. It made me look up the collaboration on stage with that chick on youtube, it was pretty neat.
You're welcome! Glad you enjoyed it as much as I did!! :)
ves posted a link to the same site but i think this section may have been overlooked.
http://www.rickkosick.com/photography/backstage-deftones-ventura-theater (http://www.rickkosick.com/photography/backstage-deftones-ventura-theater)
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=73907592#post73907592 (http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?p=73907592#post73907592)
not really a deftones picture, but conan also likes owl
(http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/4916/owlad640.jpg) (http://img704.imageshack.us/i/owlad640.jpg/)
Could it be the same owl as the diamond eyes cover?
A girl named Melody took them but still hasnt sent them. Im hoping shes on this board and sees this....MELODY still no pics girl!!
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=104889123&blogId=189681322 (http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=104889123&blogId=189681322)
same for Columbus Oh 9/10
:-\ REALLY?
Not everyone can be trusted?
i knew i shouldn't have gotten my hopes up for that picture.
At least we got to take out own. But the group photo wouldve been nice to have :-\
Check out some live Deftones shots from The Rave in Milwaukee, WI from the last few dates that they've played there.
http://www.therave.com/concert_picture_gallery.asp?view=event&id=2408 (http://www.therave.com/concert_picture_gallery.asp?view=event&id=2408)
http://www.therave.com/concert_picture_gallery.asp?view=event&id=4133 (http://www.therave.com/concert_picture_gallery.asp?view=event&id=4133)
heh hilarious interview...first time seeing them holding separate mics :D
Theres a special thread for this bro but nice pics.
Some posters from BDS tour!! by Jermaine Rogers http://www.jermainerogers.com/ (http://www.jermainerogers.com/)
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jermaine is really good.
Indeed....
Had this one in the email, dont know if you guys get it, sorry I'm a bit off right now. I'll catch up again when they play live here in December :D
http://kettonegy.blog.hu/2010/06/24/deftones_2 (http://kettonegy.blog.hu/2010/06/24/deftones_2)
Quote from: Drop-Dead on Sep 27, 2010, 10:26 PM
Had this one in the email, dont know if you guys get it, sorry I'm a bit off right now. I'll catch up again when they play live here in December :D
http://kettonegy.blog.hu/2010/06/24/deftones_2 (http://kettonegy.blog.hu/2010/06/24/deftones_2)
This interview is epic but this website sucks balls, here it is on youtube:
Interview of Stephen Carpenter & Frank Delgado @ Nova Rock, Nickelsdorf, June 13th 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1-nh6aOld4#ws)
what the hell happen with deftones and hungaria?
isn't it a hungarian interview? i think he was just being sarcastic.
good interview :)
This is not a spam post, I can't seem to get an image uploaded. You can see live Deftones photos at my website www.BackBeat-Photography.com (http://www.backbeat-photography.com) . The pics are from the show in St. Louis, Mo 10/1/2010 direct link is http://backbeat-photography.com/?p=2069 (http://backbeat-photography.com/?p=2069)
chingon type interview
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Article about Blackdiamondskye:
http://www.uiargonaut.com/content/view/11039/47/ (http://www.uiargonaut.com/content/view/11039/47/)
Three bands, two cities, happy fans
Written by Anthony Saia - Argonaut
Thursday, 14 October 2010
The Blackdiamondskye tour might be the biggest concert series of the year. The tour spans one month and three bands have come together to provide a unique rock'n'roll experience.
Deftones drummer Abe Cunningham said, "The tour just kind of happened. We have been friends with the guys from Alice In Chains for quite a while."
In fact, it was not just that they knew the Seattle grunge gods but also because both Deftones and Alice In Chains had the same producer for their last records.
Vocalist for the Sacramento band Chino Moreno releases guttural shrieks during a concert Oct. 8 at Key Arena in Seattle. The concert was part of the month-long Blackdiamondskye tour in support of the Seattle band, Alice in Chains.
"Nick Raskulinecz produced both of our records. We were going into the studio with him right as they were finishing Black Gives Way To Blue so we met up and rekindled our friendship," Cunningham said.
Cunningham said Mastodon wasn't just on the bill because they are cool dudes.
"We are both on the same label and have the same management. It just kind of made sense," Cunningham said.
On Oct. 8 and 9 Mastodon, Deftones and Alice In Chains appeared in Seattle and Portland.
One fan, Kelly Adams had never been to a rock concert until attending this show.
"Unless you count Afroman, I have never been to a 'real' concert." Adams said.
Fan Derick Jones said he has been to many shows.
"I have been following Deftones around the West Coast for a while now. I saw them in Sacramento and Spokane a few months back. Now, I am getting an opportunity to see them tonight in Seattle and tomorrow in Portland," Jones said.
However, Brian Jones said he was not at the venue to see Deftones.
"I just can't get over the style of vocals," Wise said, "I like the rest of the band but the singer sucks."
Casey Ward, fan, said he was only there to see one band — Mastodon.
"Mastodon just kicks ass. I'm a big metal fan so I am here to see Mastodon. We saw Alice In Chains at the Salem Armory in Oregon earlier this year so seeing them again just made sense," Ward said.
Atlanta-based metal band Mastodon started the show. Both nights Mastodon played a short set of deft progressive rock and metal. At some points it was difficult to differentiate songs, but Mastodon is not a band that one can be a casual fan of. Throughout their sets in Seattle and Portland the fans were mellow until the hardcore fans started moshing in the pit. There were signs of life at this point as the band closed with "Blood and Thunder" off their album Leviathan.
The middle act, Deftones, seemed to captivate the audience from the opening riff of "Rocket Skates," to the end of their set. Deftones delivered an impressive, high energy set with vocalist Chino Moreno at the helm. Moreno has progressed as a performer and it shows, he worked the crowd into frenzy. At one point Moreno climbed atop his Orange guitar cabinets — which were almost seven feet in the air, and jumped back down to the stage.
The band's set was a manic rollercoaster ride that included the band's most hardcore tracks followed by the most melancholy.
After Moreno finished sharing impressive guttural shrieks with the audience the band closed with "7 Words," a song off their debut album. The audience responded in a way that made it seem they thought it was a travesty Deftones set ended so soon.
After a short break, the stage was widened and a huge wide curtain shrouded the stage. Colorful sets of lights were aimed at the curtain, which was used to make the gigantic screen appear like a massive kaleidoscope. The band's shadows surfaced on the screen a few minutes after the Blackdiamondskye logo flashed on the curtain. These effects may be featured on the 3D movie Alice In Chains is recording on the tour.
"They had cameras everywhere (and) it was really cool to see," Cunningham said.
Alice In Chains opened with "Them Bones" off their second album Dirt, followed by "Dam That River" and "Rain When I Die."
Some fans may agree that vocalist William DuVall's voice was a dead ringer for the late Layne Staley. If one were to close their eyes, they would have sworn that it was Staley on Saturday night. DuVall brings a soulful vocal and fantastic stage presence to the role of lead singer for a band like Alice In Chains. He moved across the stage with ease but never overdid it. In fact, DuVall's edition has given new life to the band.
Jerry Cantrell, Mike Inez and Sean Kinney appeared to be feeling the music as they performed alongside DuVall. They also played new tracks such as "Check My Brain," "Your Decision" and "Lesson Learned," from their latest album Black Gives Way To Blue and songs from their back catalog. The band played a short set in Portland but in Seattle they brought down the house closing with "Man in the Box" and "Would?" both nights.
Following the show in Seattle Adams said, "It was more than I expected. Mastodon was good, kind of like groovy metal and Deftones were amazing. Alice In Chains put on an awesome show, of course, but Chino Moreno of Deftones just oozed charisma and helped me feel the music."
Other concertgoers could be heard stating almost the exact same words.
The Blackdiamondskye tour continues through California and ends in Las Vegas Oct. 16. Alice In Chains and Mastodon do not have future tour dates planned currently but Deftones plan to say on the road. Immediately after they wrap this tour the band is flying to Europe to tour with fellow rockers from New York, Coheed and Cambria.
Anyone got some pictures of the band during their appearance at BBC Studios in 2006 for the Zane Lowe radio show ?
Found some great pictures from their MSG shows here: http://www.msg.com/photos/deftones-live-at-madison-square-garden (http://www.msg.com/photos/deftones-live-at-madison-square-garden)
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Fucking sick.
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 19, 2010, 10:30 AM
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Fucking sick.
it cant be 2010 is it?
No shit ? Haha. 2003-dated, of course.
Pornstar/model/tattoo artist Adrenalynn with chino and serge
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Probably named a song on Eros after her. :)
deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeFC3-AVqcU#ws)
Hellfest.
i don't know if anyone ever posted these. i haven't seen em' anyway.
Deftones - 4music 4play live performance and interview [ Part 1 ] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKtUr2-nwaY#ws)
Deftones - 4music 4play live performance and interview [ Part 2 ] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqYtM4Szktk&feature=related#ws)
this guy has no idea how to give an interview....
Deftones-Drummer Abe Cunningham im Equipment-Talk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf9WuAMf0WI&feature=related#ws)
Equipment-Talk mit Deftones-Bassist Sergio Vega (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMHdGv8fX4E&feature=related#ws)
Quote from: sing blue silver on Oct 26, 2010, 01:33 AM
i don't know if anyone ever posted these. i haven't seen em' anyway.
Deftones - 4music 4play live performance and interview [ Part 1 ] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKtUr2-nwaY#ws)
Deftones - 4music 4play live performance and interview [ Part 2 ] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqYtM4Szktk&feature=related#ws)
this guy has no idea how to give an interview....
Deftones-Drummer Abe Cunningham im Equipment-Talk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf9WuAMf0WI&feature=related#ws)
Equipment-Talk mit Deftones-Bassist Sergio Vega (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMHdGv8fX4E&feature=related#ws)
hahahahahaha thanks man
that was awkward interview... serg should of said Chi as one of his favs :P
Quote from: pixElsblUr on Oct 26, 2010, 12:51 PM
that was awkward interview... serg should of said Chi as one of his favs :P
yeah that would have been pretty funny. the guy obviously had no clue who they were but probably knew they were popular and got a chance to interview them at the last second.
Haha It's the second time around I see and hear sergio complicate an answer in a pretentious way. Why not just answer the question, everyone knows music is subjective, But to name a record you like a little extra isn't so damn hard :P
Thanks Silverman for posting
Quote from: pixElsblUr on Oct 26, 2010, 12:51 PM
that was awkward interview... serg should of said Chi as one of his favs :P
yeah maybe....... probably depends on how you look at it, he was asked a question and he answered honestly. Chi happened to not be one of his favorites and therefor Sergio didn't mention Chi. It can be nice with sincerity once in a while. But if I would be his manager, I probably would think he fucked up.
Fitz with the Deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N51lGUeBH6A#ws)
Chino and Vega radio interview (Deftones) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK23JHhcsP0#)
omg, how great is that picture - ay, ay captain:
http://www.fotolog.com/nacho_deftones/43900496 (http://www.fotolog.com/nacho_deftones/43900496)
Quote from: BigMood on Oct 29, 2010, 09:14 AM
omg, how great is that picture - ay, ay captain:
http://www.fotolog.com/nacho_deftones/43900496 (http://www.fotolog.com/nacho_deftones/43900496)
old, but also look at spongebob and chino socks :P
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guess frank is a bigger influence than we thought lol
KFMA's Fall Ball 2010 Interview - Deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eKNqidJKKM#)
You've Seen the Butcher- behind the scene photoshoot
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Pics downloaded by Vesanic
More pics here
Pics by Dustin Rabin (http://www.dustinrabin.com/deftones/photo_gallery.html)
thanks for sharin' those pics!! how great it must have been to be a part of that!
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=137420&id=100000730296182 (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=137420&id=100000730296182)
Very cool interview of Frank
http://eqmag.com/article/Deftones-Frank-Delgado/November-2010/122143 (http://eqmag.com/article/Deftones-Frank-Delgado/November-2010/122143)
Deftones Frank Delgado on Why Openness Is So Metal
Left to right: Drummer Abe Cunningham, synthesist Frank Delgado, lead vocalist Chino Moreno, bassist Sergio Vega, and
guitarist Stephen Carpenter.
Perhaps the biggest credit to the originality of Deftones is that none of the labels have stuck—and the press has tried them all. Nu-metal, alt-metal, post-hardcore . . . the list goes on. For critical acclaim, blending of thoughtful melodies with kick-your-ass heaviness, lyrical sophistication, and fandom bordering on religion, they'd tie with Tool, though the two bands stop short of sounding alike. Now, two years after the car accident that gravely injured longtime bassist Chi Cheng, there rises Diamond Eyes. As singular as Deftones' sound itself is the role of DJ/keyboardist Frank Delgado in suffusing this phoenix of an album with inimitable soundscapes.
When you came into Deftones, it almost seemed like there was a conscious decision not to sound like a typical DJ-in-a-hard-rock-band.
I did come from a DJ background, and especially being in a heavier band like Deftones, it took some time to figure out my role, without the stereotype— you know, there's a breakdown, then I'm supposed to scratch or whatever, but I never understood why it had to be that way. In a heavier band, trying to fit in DJ- or synth-based sounds is not the easiest thing to do without it sounding cheesy.
How did you approach this challenge at first?
When I first got into the band, all I had were records. I tried to implement them in a more soundscape-y way. I was trying to be a rudimentary sampler, you could say. From there, I progressed into buying keyboards, and teaching myself to play. Before that, I'd been plugging in a bunch of effects and guitar pedals, so I could sustain sounds, pitch them, and turn them into atmospheres. Now, instead of searching my record crate for sounds that fit a moment in a song, I can build my own—mostly in Ableton Live— and play and write with them.
Do you use the soft synths in Ableton Live?
Yes, as well as the Nord Lead 2 I still have, and the Minimoog Voyager—its low end beefs up the bass on a lot of our songs. I also record stuff around the studio. While Stephen [Carpenter, guitarist] is jamming, I might record that, and some feedback, then dump that into Ableton and twist it some more. Maybe I'll spread it across the keys of a controller and pitch it. I'm no Ableton master, but I love how you can just keep twisting and turning until you make something cool, then hit "save." Back in the day, I had no gear and had to search through records to find sounds that fit, then figure out how to stretch them and make them work in a song. That's still how I work, but Ableton lets me do it all inside one program.
What was the first thing you heard that made you feel like electronics had a legitimate place in a band as heavy as Deftones?
I grew up in southern California, and was into anything DJ-related. When I moved to the Bay Area, I started listening to bands like Faith No More. I saw how they could pull off this heavy music that was still melodic and . . . pretty. It was still aggressive, but they had a keyboard player. That's what made me go, "I think I can do that."
Was Diamond Eyes different from your previous work with Deftones?
We used to spend a lot of time making records—it wasn't intentional, it was just how it happened. We'd go in with maybe half the songs, and we'd write the rest in the studio. It's creative, but it's also time-consuming and not cost-effective. This time, Nick Raskulinecz, the producer, never let us lose the initial spark of any song we'd started. We worked at a really efficient pace, and could actually play the album end-to-end before we started tracking. That hadn't happened in many years.
What do you practice, or listen to for inspiration, outside of playing with Deftones?
I still DJ on the side, so I'm really into both dance music and hip-hop. Being a DJ has put me into different worlds of music over the years. When I was young, it was a hip-hop thing, but that causes you to find jazz and funk, even if just for sampling at first. You'd be surprised at the stuff you hear anyone in Deftones listening to. We're all over the map. Stephen Carpenter— you'd think he's just this metalhead. Which he is, but he also listens to hip-hop all day long! I sometimes listen to old funk and disco.
What do you think fans would be most surprised to learn you're into?
We make these pre-show "mixtapes" to play before we go on. They're anything and everything, from Meshuggah to Björk to Depeche Mode to Milli Vanilli! [Laughs.] If you've only heard our singles on the radio, that doesn't do justice to the range we try to pull off throughout an album or a show. We've also done these crazy B-side things—we've covered everything from Sade to the Cure.
What would you say to people who see DJs as less than real musicians?
To be a good DJ, you need rhythm, groove, a good ear—all the same things you need to play an instrument. Most DJs who stick with it end up moving into production. If you're really into it, it's going to open you up. You're going to see how different rhythms, bass lines, and chord progressions relate. Plus, with the technology we have now, anyone can present as a "musician." It's a matter of how passionate you are. We could say the same thing about guitarists.
Can you a single out a Deftones song that represents your single biggest sonic contribution to the band yet?
I really love "You've Seen the Butcher," as I'm playing so many different things on it: samples, synths, turntables. I don't think I've ever heard a metal band pull off something quite like it—it's heavy as f***, but it's still sexy. One of my favorite things about our band is that there's a sense of melody, and even a little funk, despite the overall aggressive rock focus. We've always tried to debunk the notion that we can't do this or that because it's not "metal."
What advice would you give to someone who wants to be just like you?
You need to be open, which is hard to do when you're young. When you're young, you gravitate to the music of a given social circle. You get a little older, and it's not about hanging with a crowd anymore. If you can realize when you're young that it's all rock 'n' roll, and that there's nothing you need to be ashamed of listening to, you'll be ahead of the game.
DEFGEAR
Frank Delgado at the center of his hybrid DJ/synth rig. Left: Minimoog Voyager. DJ coffin, left to right: Technics SL1200 turntable, Pioneer EFX-500 behind Rane mixer, Korg Kaoss KP-3 behind Pioneer CDJ-1000, MacBook Pro running Ableton Live, controlled by Novation ReMote SL. Right: Nord Lead 2 above Yamaha RS-7000 groove box. Not visible: Line 6 DL4 delay and EHX Small Stone phaser.
6 Artists That Define the Role of Keyboards in Today's Hardest Rock
Janne Warman, Children of Bodom's Virtuoso Ragnarocker
Crash Kings, Tony Beliveau: Guitar Hero, Sans Guitar Tony
Black Country Communion, Derek Sherinian on Getting the Cheese Out
Return To Earth, Cerebral Metal with Chris Pennie
Adam Wakeman, On Tour with Ozzy Osbourne
Very cool indeed. Thank you for sharing that! :)
Thanks for everyone's help sourcing images, due to a number of reasons we ended up going for a newly commissioned illustration instead. The Deftones issue sold out in English but you can read the digital issue here:
http://www.huckmagazine.com/digital-archive/issue-021/ (http://www.huckmagazine.com/digital-archive/issue-021/)
Get a taster here:
http://www.huckmagazine.com/features/deftones/ (http://www.huckmagazine.com/features/deftones/)
Or go bid on the A3 black & white illustration, signed by the band with all proceeds going to One Love for Chi
http://www.huckmagazine.com/blog/deftones-%E2%80%98one-chi%E2%80%99/ (http://www.huckmagazine.com/blog/deftones-%E2%80%98one-chi%E2%80%99/)
Thanks again & enjoy!
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anyone got a good pic of abes kick drum when it had " trust no bitch" written on it ? thanks!
Quote from: Jaw Knee on Nov 10, 2010, 03:31 PM
anyone got a good pic of abes kick drum when it had " trust no bitch" written on it ? thanks!
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All I got. Thanks to Luis.
thanks V ! i really appreciate it !
here is one i have.
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rodleen and deftones performing.
sorry about the url i cant do shit on my phone.
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Just happened to be listening to the live stream of BBC Radio 1 last night when Daniel P. Carter (host of the Rock Show) said he'd be talking to Chino (and playing Glassjaw) so I was ALL ears! Cool live call-in interview w/ Chino...not sure if anyone anywhere recorded it. So glad I caught it!!!
Oh shit, thanks so much, Charissa.
Chino said they've been practicing songs they've never played onstage before and that London would be a good place to do something special.
Yeah, he said that last night. Did you hear that interview? I wonder if someone recorded it or if it's avail. online somewhere? Daniel P. Carter was super upset he's gonna be out of town for all the UK shows and Chino told him that's too bad b/c they'd been practicing lots of new songs to play in the UK, lol...
I actually just checked it out thanks to your post here, otherwise I wouldn't have known about it. I just ripped it, it's on the way. ;)
Awesome!!! I figured if anyone could find it, you certainly could! ;) Thanks! I missed the very beginning so it'd be cool to hear the entire thing!
There you go (lossless .WAV):
http://www.mediafire.com/?vak90sr6j7wr1ov (http://www.mediafire.com/?vak90sr6j7wr1ov)
Sweet! Thanks!!!
Long interview about White Pony
" How White Pony almost killed us "
http://www.rocksound.tv/features/article/deftones-how-white-pony-almost-killed-us?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=rocksound (http://www.rocksound.tv/features/article/deftones-how-white-pony-almost-killed-us?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=rocksound)
This just posted by Radio One on Twitter - http://twitpic.com/37fred (http://twitpic.com/37fred)
(wasn't sure where to post it)
Quote from: nineteen on Nov 16, 2010, 08:22 PM
This just posted by Radio One on Twitter - http://twitpic.com/37fred (http://twitpic.com/37fred)
(wasn't sure where to post it)
Thanks!! I tweeted a comment and BBCR1 tweeted this link back to check out! http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/photos/rockshow/5950 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/photos/rockshow/5950)
(those pics are from May though, so sorry if they've already been posted!)
http://www.rocksound.tv/features/article/deftones-how-white-pony-almost-killed-us (http://www.rocksound.tv/features/article/deftones-how-white-pony-almost-killed-us)
I haven't seen this one floating around here, it's about the makig of the pony entirely. It's not the interview that was released a month ago or so, though.
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Nov 17, 2010, 06:37 AM
http://www.rocksound.tv/features/article/deftones-how-white-pony-almost-killed-us (http://www.rocksound.tv/features/article/deftones-how-white-pony-almost-killed-us)
I haven't seen this one floating around here, it's about the makig of the pony entirely. It's not the interview that was released a month ago or so, though.
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 15, 2010, 09:42 PM
Long article about White Pony
How White Pony almost killed us
http://www.rocksound.tv/features/article/deftones-how-white-pony-almost-killed-us?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=rocksound (http://www.rocksound.tv/features/article/deftones-how-white-pony-almost-killed-us?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=rocksound)
http://fuckyeahchinomoreno.tumblr.com/photo/1280/1159071294/1/tumblr_l92qezobba1qcd9ab (http://fuckyeahchinomoreno.tumblr.com/photo/1280/1159071294/1/tumblr_l92qezobba1qcd9ab)
http://www.gigwise.com/photos/59604/1/Deftones-Play-Electric-Gig-At-Brixton-Academy (http://www.gigwise.com/photos/59604/1/Deftones-Play-Electric-Gig-At-Brixton-Academy) Wish they'd included pix of the entire band!
Badass pictures from the London show taken by my buddy
http://picasaweb.google.com/erratom7/DeftonesLive# (http://picasaweb.google.com/erratom7/DeftonesLive#)
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 19, 2010, 12:55 PM
Badass pictures from the London show taken by my buddy
http://picasaweb.google.com/erratom7/DeftonesLive# (http://picasaweb.google.com/erratom7/DeftonesLive#)
Those are great. Thanks for the link.
I've got way more from his shoot, will upload them somewhen.
Quote from: pony_01 on Nov 18, 2010, 04:29 PM
http://fuckyeahchinomoreno.tumblr.com/photo/1280/1159071294/1/tumblr_l92qezobba1qcd9ab (http://fuckyeahchinomoreno.tumblr.com/photo/1280/1159071294/1/tumblr_l92qezobba1qcd9ab)
i love this. fucking hilarious. someone should photoshop the shit out of it.
http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/reverb/2007/11/interview_chino_moreno_team_sl.php (http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/reverb/2007/11/interview_chino_moreno_team_sl.php)
Sweet interview of chino moreno back in 07...he talks about how he noticed his voice has changed from the first record and his self conciousness.
Quote from: ponyx on Nov 20, 2010, 04:49 AM
http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/reverb/2007/11/interview_chino_moreno_team_sl.php (http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/reverb/2007/11/interview_chino_moreno_team_sl.php)
Sweet interview of chino moreno back in 07...he talks about how he noticed his voice has changed from the first record and his self conciousness.
Some artists are terrified of their voice changing, and having to adapt as you get older. You don't fear that?Well, I mean, I've kinda already dealt with that. Like realizing that there's stuff I cant do from our first record -- there's these really high, like, Perry Farrell-esque high-note things I used to do and I can't do that anymore. These days, I can do like another version of it, it's like a scream version of it, but it's not as clear and as pristine as it used to be, and I dunno if that's just from me getting older or from me abusing my vocal chords all these years screaming or whatever. But, you know, I kinda had to realize, like, wow, I can't do that anymore.
What was that like to feel that way, did it bum you out? At first I kinda felt like, I was scared, I kinda felt like claustrophobic or something, like, wow, I can't...I was just trying and trying and trying to make this sound come out and it doesn't come out and it's scary -- at first you kinda panic about it and then it's like, whatever, that's not the only note that I'm known by, you know what I mean? It's just one note and I can still hit the note, it's just not as pristine as it used to be.
Thanks a lot for this, dude.
Old interview and vid from 96. Deftones - WAAF Interview (The Middle East - Bostom, MA 11-25-1996) HQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IfCMgaqzNM#)
Chino's top 13 favorite albums: http://thequietus.com/articles/05329-deftones-chino-interview-favourite-records (http://thequietus.com/articles/05329-deftones-chino-interview-favourite-records)
I really like that Hum album. I always thought the beginning of 'Little Dipper' sounds like Knife Party. You can definitely tell that album influenced Deftones...
i've never heard any of those albums. i'm suprised disintegration isn't in there
Quote from: Hidalgo on Nov 24, 2010, 01:43 AM
i'm suprised disintegration isn't in there
yup. also, he has talked about how siamese dream changed his life. it makes you wonder- with that kind of description, it should've been there?
but of course he can namedrop any cd he wants :) it's just weird,none of the bands records he has been talking about for 20 years was there... cure, smashing pumpkins, weezer, radiohead , depeche mode and so on.
maybe he is tired of babbling about the same shit over and over and wants to deliver a surprise or two.
Quote from: Starz on Nov 23, 2010, 11:54 PM
I really like that Hum album. I always thought the beginning of 'Little Dipper' sounds like Knife Party. You can definitely tell that album influenced Deftones...
Same here - didn't know about them but it sounds great.... kinda 'Failure' sounding.
i love how there's no metal on his list. props for the Sade and Spain. wasn't expecting those.
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 24, 2010, 10:31 AM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Nov 24, 2010, 01:43 AM
i'm suprised disintegration isn't in there
yup. also, he has talked about how siamese dream changed his life. it makes you wonder- with that kind of description, it should've been there?
but of course he can namedrop any cd he wants :) it's just weird,none of the bands records he has been talking about for 20 years was there... cure, smashing pumpkins, weezer, radiohead , depeche mode and so on.
maybe he is tired of babbling about the same shit over and over and wants to deliver a surprise or two.
I think it has to do with chino's taste being more expansive. The fact that he is as excited for discovering music as when he was a kid is a good sympton. Even, he admitted some of the essentials were left out, i think he wanted us the listeners to discover new music as when he uploaded the mixtapes (could anyone upload 'em or tell me their tracklists? I only have number 9 and is amazing.)
Reading him appreciatte all those albums the way he does makes me want to hear music (and then write some)
yes it feels as if he recommends a few underground records,in lack of better terms, in the same way as the mixtapes instead of naming the best albums in the world for him. He's going for the "wasn't expecting this at all" reaction and doing the "hey, ever heard this??" insted of doing what is supposed to be done in this little task. the original idea is lost. but it's not the end of the world :)
I think there was a thread awhile back that had all those mixtapes and/or the albums that feature said tracks. Check the board history... unless someone will kindly suply a link. :P
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Nov 25, 2010, 01:01 AM
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 24, 2010, 10:31 AM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Nov 24, 2010, 01:43 AM
i'm suprised disintegration isn't in there
yup. also, he has talked about how siamese dream changed his life. it makes you wonder- with that kind of description, it should've been there?
but of course he can namedrop any cd he wants :) it's just weird,none of the bands records he has been talking about for 20 years was there... cure, smashing pumpkins, weezer, radiohead , depeche mode and so on.
maybe he is tired of babbling about the same shit over and over and wants to deliver a surprise or two.
I think it has to do with chino's taste being more expansive. The fact that he is as excited for discovering music as when he was a kid is a good sympton. Even, he admitted some of the essentials were left out, i think he wanted us the listeners to discover new music as when he uploaded the mixtapes (could anyone upload 'em or tell me their tracklists? I only have number 9 and is amazing.)
Reading him appreciatte all those albums the way he does makes me want to hear music (and then write some)
http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,13825.60.html (http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,13825.60.html)
you meant this one. Seems like the links are dead, I'll try and see which ones I have and I'll upload them for ya if you like.
EDIT: I have the majority of them except for mixtapes 8&9.
Quote from: Sushi-X on Nov 26, 2010, 03:30 AM
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Nov 25, 2010, 01:01 AM
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 24, 2010, 10:31 AM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Nov 24, 2010, 01:43 AM
i'm suprised disintegration isn't in there
yup. also, he has talked about how siamese dream changed his life. it makes you wonder- with that kind of description, it should've been there?
but of course he can namedrop any cd he wants :) it's just weird,none of the bands records he has been talking about for 20 years was there... cure, smashing pumpkins, weezer, radiohead , depeche mode and so on.
maybe he is tired of babbling about the same shit over and over and wants to deliver a surprise or two.
I think it has to do with chino's taste being more expansive. The fact that he is as excited for discovering music as when he was a kid is a good sympton. Even, he admitted some of the essentials were left out, i think he wanted us the listeners to discover new music as when he uploaded the mixtapes (could anyone upload 'em or tell me their tracklists? I only have number 9 and is amazing.)
Reading him appreciatte all those albums the way he does makes me want to hear music (and then write some)
http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,13825.60.html (http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,13825.60.html)
you meant this one. Seems like the links are dead, I'll try and see which ones I have and I'll upload them for ya if you like.
EDIT: I have the majority of them except for mixtapes 8&9.
wow, thank you. I have No9, I'll upload it to complete the collection
Cool pic from the Tilburg show.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1226.snc4/155836_10150094597040039_749120038_7061827_7630098_n.jpg)
Manchester Apollo photos
http://www.rocksound.tv/photos/article/live-and-loud-deftones (http://www.rocksound.tv/photos/article/live-and-loud-deftones)
http://www.gigwise.com/photos/59525/Deftones-Wow-Fans-At-Manchester-Apollo (http://www.gigwise.com/photos/59525/Deftones-Wow-Fans-At-Manchester-Apollo)
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg163/scaled.php?tn=0&server=163&filename=lhx0.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
Quick interview on an Italian radio...
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=150006 (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=150006)
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 27, 2010, 08:50 PM
Quick interview on an Italian radio...
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=150006 (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=150006)
nice to hear that part of the ticket income goes to chi =)
A couple of pictures from tonight's gig
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tsprayphotography/5212308813/#in/set-72157625355412959/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tsprayphotography/5212308813/#in/set-72157625355412959/)
Review of the Copenhagen show + a couple of pictures too
http://www.soundvenue.com/live-anmeldelser/2010/11/28/deftones--ud-af-lyddoedens-klamme-haender?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.soundvenue.com/live-anmeldelser/2010/11/28/deftones--ud-af-lyddoedens-klamme-haender?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Review with pics Tilburg in Dutch:
http://www.jimmyalter.nl/Reviews/8813/Een_begin_om_van_te_dromen_bij_Deftones_in_013 (http://www.jimmyalter.nl/Reviews/8813/Een_begin_om_van_te_dromen_bij_Deftones_in_013)
Man, Chino either has a really gigantic domb, or u have a really little one going on the fact that I don't believe u r one of those wierdos who shop their faces with celebs! lol By the way, nice work on the page I visited man, nice work!
celebs???????
Chino Moreno and drummer Abe Cunningham from Deftones talk to us backstage about their current tour, working on new material, and bassist Chi's progress.
http://www.nme.com/nme-video/deftones-video-interview/688973848001 (http://www.nme.com/nme-video/deftones-video-interview/688973848001)
Quote from: defsteve on Nov 29, 2010, 08:57 PM
Chino Moreno and drummer Abe Cunningham from Deftones talk to us backstage about their current tour, working on new material, and bassist Chi's progress.
http://www.nme.com/nme-video/deftones-video-interview/688973848001 (http://www.nme.com/nme-video/deftones-video-interview/688973848001)
should read...
Quote from: defsteve on Nov 29, 2010, 08:57 PM
Chino Moreno talks to us backstage about Deftones current tour, working on new material, and bassist Chi's progress. Drummer Abe Cunningham sits silently and awkwardly in the background because we'll only ever use Chino's responses anyway, as is the way with Deftones interviews.
http://www.nme.com/nme-video/deftones-video-interview/688973848001 (http://www.nme.com/nme-video/deftones-video-interview/688973848001)
just the way it came out i guess. not pussyfooting around to impress with "cooler" terms. ;)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/defsteve/deftones/deftonesbirminghamkerrang.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/defsteve/deftones/deftonesbirminghamkerrang2.jpg)
A great interview and live excerpts from their concert at Stubb's BBQ, Austin, TX, on October 19th 2010.
Chino talks about the fans and gives more precise words about Chi's situation, the bills, etc.
http://www.roxwel.com/player/deftonesinterview2010.html?1=1&detect_bitrate=_700 (http://www.roxwel.com/player/deftonesinterview2010.html?1=1&detect_bitrate=_700)
Stef playing " Mein ", talking about it and how Chino butchered it, to him.
Songwriting Battles with Deftones' Stephen Carpenter Guitarist Magazine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TsH2kHUWI8#ws)
That is Great ;D
Haha, yeah !
2:37 to 2:43 = ;D
i bet Chino ruined alot of Stephs riff buy doing the vocals over an over so steph had to change
Steph probrally had some crazy riffs
Album Reviews Q&A: Deftones
Act: Deftones
Albums: Diamond Eyes (2010), White Pony (2000)
Recommended by: Zane Lowe, Rock Show with Daniel P Carter
Looking likely to have the most acclaimed rock release of 2010 under their belts in the form of Diamond Eyes (it's in my top five), Californian five-piece Deftones have enjoyed one of their best years yet, with sell-out shows complementing a veritable cavalcade of commendations for their recorded wares. But the album, their sixth studio affair, emerged from a very dark period in the band's history - founding bassist Chi Cheng remains in a minimally conscious state since a car accident in November 2008, a situation which led many to assume Deftones would never regroup. But with ex-Quicksand bassist Sergio Vega drafted in, they have produced their strongest set since 2000's perspective-shifting White Pony, now celebrating its 10th anniversary. Frontman Chino Moreno (pictured, centre) took time out from the band's recent UK tour to answer our questions.
- - -
Diamond Eyes seems to keep rolling and rolling - great reviews around its release, and now it's appearing in a number of year-end lists. Just how pleased are you with how it's been received?
Well, there's been a lot of ups and downs over the last, say, eight years of our existence, especially when the thing happened with Chi. But I think that acted as an awakening in a way, as it meant we all had to step back and properly look at where we'd been, and where we were going. For one, our foundation was damaged with what happened to him, so we had to rebuild; but when we started to do that, to search for the band, we looked at it from a perspective of counting our blessings - we appreciated that we had each other, and we were still able to do this. I think that mentality, of acknowledging what we had, carried over into when we began making this album. We had a very strong mindset going into it. Which was important, as we'd already been working on Eros (the album the band were recording with Chi prior to his accident, currently unfinished) for a year and a half, and we knew we didn't have much time or money to make a record from scratch. So if we were going to do it, we needed to be really focused. So we locked ourselves in a rehearsal spot, and worked really hard. But we also really enjoyed it, as we were all happy to be together, working on something we knew was going to be special to us.
From the very first listen it's quite clear that this record has a spark to it, a vibrancy, that was perhaps missing in your last couple of albums. I guess this comes from the speed with which it was recorded?
That was a big part of it. The one, I guess, joint idea we had when we went in to record this album was to capture lightning in a bottle, to capture an energy. We'd done this sort of thing before, but that was 12 years or so before, so we really weren't sure how things would work this time, especially as the chemistry was different with Sergio involved. But the first day he was there we started writing and everything felt really natural - it didn't feel like we were trying too hard, and it felt good. Once we realised it was going to work with Sergio we fell into a groove, and from that point on we set about capturing that. I think if we dragged it on longer than we did, perhaps things would have been different - I don't doubt we'd have dragged our feet about it. But the little time and money we had actually worked in our favour.
So it was important not to over-analyse the material too much?
That was a huge part of it. We'd been stuck in that circle before - on previous albums I'd been trying to second-guess reaction to the material, and adjust it accordingly. The label, on the last couple of records, also seemed to want to get more involved at the songwriting stage - I'd send a track to them, and they'd come back with a list of what they thought should change. I wasn't so comfortable working like that, and I ended up having to second-guess myself. Ultimately it took a lot of the fun away, out of making music. But this time we could shut everyone else out and just play together in a small room, writing music until we felt it was right, and until we had them memorised to the extent we could play them all live. We didn't really waste any time at all - we went straight into the studio when the songs were there, and we were really well rehearsed.
I think it's very important that you mention fun, as there must be many bands out there for whom making a new album has become a routine. I wonder how many still get the same satisfaction they did with their first or second records?
I think the energy of this record does hark back to our first two albums - I compare it a lot to our second, Around the Fur. To me, that record was one we never thought we'd be able to make. After the first album, I never thought people would like us as much as they did. So when we got the opportunity to go in and make a second record, the level of confidence we had was really high. And we recorded that album really fast, too - in four months, which for us is really fast! There was definitely an element of fun involved in that process, and we would look forward to going into the studio. And I think Diamond Eyes is definitely comparable to Around the Fur, in that respect.
I'd like to touch upon White Pony, your third album. It's one of those albums that seems to have grown in status as the years have passed, becoming widely cited as influential by a raft of newer bands. But I recall at the time not everyone was particularly positive about it. Was it always destined to be one of those records you have to stick with a while to properly 'get'?
Yeah, I did think that to an extent. I knew we were going a little left of centre, away from what people probably expected of us. We'd become tagged with the nu-metal label, and everything that came with that, and our first instinct was to run away from that. We wanted to dodge it, and I think we did as well as we could. We knew some fans would not get it straight away, but we knew the songs were good and that we'd put a lot of hard work into it. Whether it'd be an album that's stood the test of time, as it has, that was something I didn't know. It's great to see it being talked about to this day, and even if people don't get it straight away, it's got its qualities which I think do emerge. At the time of writing it, Stephen (Carpenter, guitarist) and I were constantly trying to outdo one another. He'd write something which I'd think was cool, so then I'd have to do something better. That went back and forth, back and forth, with us putting great ideas over great ideas, so come the end of the day we had all this material that was all across the board, but I think every style that's on there has had a lot of thought put into it. Looking back now, I'm very proud of it.
White Pony seemed to open up new audiences to you, too - fans that weren't into metal exclusively were attracted to its rich textures, its ambient passages, its experimentation. The way the band is able to gain, and hold, a wide range of listeners is a quality that I don't think can be overstated.
Well, I don't really think about that too much - it's not like we ever have a plan that says we need to appeal to a particular market, or anything. But all of us are fans of a very wide range of music, and if we were to press ahead and make music that only ticked certain boxes or was clearly designed to satisfy very specific tastes, then we'd be putting walls up around ourselves. There are no boundaries now, though I can't quite imagine us dabbling in techno just yet. I mean, I listen to that music though, so perhaps it can seep through as an influence, into a riff or another element. But we really do appreciate a wide variety of music, so when we make records these influences are always at work, subconsciously.
Looking back at 2000, another band took a pretty radical left turn with an album that year. What did you make of Radiohead's Kid A?
That's a great, great record. And at the time it was a real leap for the band. I mean, OK Computer was a massive step on for them, but when Kid A came out I was like, "what is THIS?". People would hear it and have no idea who it was - it wasn't the Radiohead they knew. But I think that was great. And why not? Why not experiment? You can get a little too self-indulgent at times, but I don't think Radiohead were at all. I commend them for that record, and any other artist who reaches outside of their comfort zone. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't - but to try it is one of the most fun parts about being a musician. If you've worked out a formula, it's important to step away from it.
Okay, finally then, what have been your favourite albums of 2010?
Well, I've not been very good at keeping up with new stuff. I know it came out last year but I love the Fever Ray record, and have played that a lot this year. The sounds in it... I love it. I really like Black Noise by Pantha du Prince, too - I guess that's sort of techno, in a way. It's very organic, though - the sounds in it are beautiful, and I listen to that album almost every day. It's very peaceful, but there are strong beats in it too. I guess those are the top two records I can think of, off the top of my head. Pantha du Prince is almost background music in a way, but when you listen closer there's so much going on. The samples and the sounds aren't traditional, it's really in a space of its own. It really isn't a typical dance record at all.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcmusic/2010/12/album_reviews_qa_deftones.html (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcmusic/2010/12/album_reviews_qa_deftones.html)
Deftones - interview Frank + Stef (mai 2010) - Deftnz.net - 1/4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQr7vu8mNlw#ws)
Deftones - interview Frank + Stef (mai 2010) - Deftnz.net - 2/4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gufeZdi8UM#ws)
can't find the rest right now...
I'm a member of the forum of that website (deftnz.net), it's called dreadfulitems. They add one part per week. Part 3 next week, then. ;)
15 minutes long interview of Chino & Frank by Kerrang!, pretty nice interview, the guys knows his shit. Chino talks about the band during the S/T and SNW era.
Kerrang! Radio: Matt Stocks Interviews Deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0cxSQy9oh0#ws)
don't know if anyone has posted this. i've never seen it.
Deftones - Interview + Clip Live Footage (Much Music-Warped Tour 07-24-1998) HQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj7fftcKvu8#)
Deftones-Interview with Stef live @ Lowlands Festival 1998 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INT1x4qxBzg#)
Quote from: Vesanic on Dec 07, 2010, 05:54 PM
15 minutes long interview of Chino & Frank by Kerrang!, pretty nice interview, the guys knows his shit. Chino talks about the band during the S/T and SNW era.
Thanks for posting. I'm a bit surprised to see and hear chino admit that the record label's involvement on snw affected him so much that he began to second guess himself and his own ideas.to fold down that much. it would've been easy for him to say "they tried to affect me but they failed.It took a long time to battle them but I won in the end" but he didn't.
Deftones - Interview - Gonzo, September 18, 2003 (part 1 of 4) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ2jPco6qpM&feature=related#)
Deftones - Interview - Gonzo, September 18, 2003 (part 4 of 4) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQzo_Y--0wo#)
part 2 and 3 seem to be missing. if anyone has them i'd be pretty keen to see them even though i hate the interviewer. he's always just terrible.
Deftones - Interview / live Footage, Rock Tv Gods of Metal, Milan, Italy, 2006 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKx-OpBkyOA&feature=related#)
here's part 3 of the interviews i posted on the last page.
Deftones - interview Frank + Stef (mai 2010) - Deftnz.net - 3/4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khazm_-F_pk#ws)
Diamond Eyes came THIRD in Drowned in Sound's albums of the year list
http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4141667-drowned-in-sounds-albums-of-the-year-2010--10-1 (http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4141667-drowned-in-sounds-albums-of-the-year-2010--10-1)
youtube.com/watch?gl=US&client=mv-google&hl=en&v=LE_7LFMZdNo
Latin MTV interview with steph, chino, and quiet frank from 2001
Quote from: ponyx on Dec 13, 2010, 07:31 AM
youtube.com/watch?gl=US&client=mv-google&hl=en&v=LE_7LFMZdNo
Latin MTV interview with steph, chino, and quiet frank from 2001
steph is actin a fool! pretty funny stuff.
kind of uncomfortable interview.
Deftones - Interview with Abe & Chi (Hurricane Festival 2001) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q92V4HeOijs#)
ahhh chi was sooo funny :)
Quote from: Hidalgo on Dec 14, 2010, 03:37 PM
ahhh chi was sooo funny :)
as always. that girl though, she can't give an interview (or really have any human social interaction) for shit.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Dec 14, 2010, 03:37 PM
ahhh chi was sooo funny :)
yeah what's bad about that is that girl's laughter is very annoying. I had to fight to get through it
she didn't bother me, i thought she did fine, just not real articulate. she seemed cool
Quote from: Hidalgo on Dec 14, 2010, 06:25 PM
she didn't bother me, i thought she did fine, just not real articulate. she seemed cool
hidalgo's got a giiiirlfrieeeend
oooooooo hoooooooo
Quote from: from_musings on Dec 14, 2010, 07:19 PM
Quote from: Hidalgo on Dec 14, 2010, 06:25 PM
she didn't bother me, i thought she did fine, just not real articulate. she seemed cool
hidalgo's got a giiiirlfrieeeend
....harder!..harder!..*giggle giggle giggle*.................................*giggle giggle giggle giggle giggle*....harder!..*giggle*
#1 Album of the year - Kerrang
#2 Album of the year - Rocksound
argh damn i was gonna wait til i bought Rock Sound to find out my self.
Quote from: defsteve on Dec 15, 2010, 09:18 AM
#1 Album of the year - Kerrang
#2 Album of the year - Rocksound
they're on fire this year. sales overall are so bad now days that it probably won't even sell 250k(halfway to gold), but gold is no longer expected. it's like double platinum was 10 years ago
#1 Rock album of the year - About.com
#24 Best selling Hard Rock Album of 2010 - Billboard
oh, i hate bilbboard's best selling hard rock album list SO much, take a look at these fecal records:
Nº 2: Linkin park - A thousand suns
Nº 4: Disturbed - Asylum (ugh)
Nº11: Godsmack - The oracle
Nº15: Stone sour - Audio secrecy
The world we live in is deaf, and lets not forget many of these records came out after Diamond eyes; this situation annoys me (a lot)
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Dec 16, 2010, 01:03 AM
oh, i hate bilbboard's best selling hard rock album list SO much, take a look at these fecal records:
Nº 2: Linkin park - A thousand suns
Nº 4: Disturbed - Asylum (ugh)
Nº11: Godsmack - The oracle
Nº15: Stone sour - Audio secrecy
The world we live in is deaf, and lets not forget many of these records came out after Diamond eyes; this situation annoys me (a lot)
I haven't heard any of those albums and to be honest i probably never will because I am no longer 14 years old
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4100/image1gq.jpg)
Quote from: wheresmysnare on Dec 16, 2010, 11:51 AM
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Dec 16, 2010, 01:03 AM
oh, i hate bilbboard's best selling hard rock album list SO much, take a look at these fecal records:
Nº 2: Linkin park - A thousand suns
Nº 4: Disturbed - Asylum (ugh)
Nº11: Godsmack - The oracle
Nº15: Stone sour - Audio secrecy
The world we live in is deaf, and lets not forget many of these records came out after Diamond eyes; this situation annoys me (a lot)
I haven't heard any of those albums and to be honest i probably never will because I am no longer 14 years old
even for a 14 year old that music should suck
Looking for pictures from Palais Omnisports Paris Bercy 2003.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Dec 16, 2010, 01:01 PM
Quote from: wheresmysnare on Dec 16, 2010, 11:51 AM
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Dec 16, 2010, 01:03 AM
oh, i hate bilbboard's best selling hard rock album list SO much, take a look at these fecal records:
Nº 2: Linkin park - A thousand suns
Nº 4: Disturbed - Asylum (ugh)
Nº11: Godsmack - The oracle
Nº15: Stone sour - Audio secrecy
The world we live in is deaf, and lets not forget many of these records came out after Diamond eyes; this situation annoys me (a lot)
I haven't heard any of those albums and to be honest i probably never will because I am no longer 14 years old
even for a 14 year old that music should suck
Yeah, that's an insult to 14 year olds.
DEFTONES unreleased & rare promo 2000 • Paris, France - HARD FORCE EXCLUSIVE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JVxtFE68Zc#)
DEFTONES @ Paris, France (Zénith) 29 juin 1998 • June 29, 1998 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0WQh8NbwgY#)
Quote from: down_in_a_hole on Dec 17, 2010, 12:09 PM
DEFTONES unreleased & rare promo 2000 • Paris, France - HARD FORCE EXCLUSIVE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JVxtFE68Zc#)
Love that video...
both great vids. 1998 behind the scenes, nice
http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/lynkin151/image-3168510.jpg (http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/lynkin151/image-3168510.jpg)
i'm going to make a akteboard deck with this logo. anyone have it with bigger resolution? thanks in advance ;)
dude you could make that in adobe illustrator really easily if you can find the fonts
i tried em before on photoshop, and i cant especially for the gold metallic effects :-[ my photoshop/illustrator skill arent that good.
i might give it a go this evening at work at the mo tho
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4088/5190567828_e604699f16.jpg)
I really want to know what kind of guitar use Chino in these performance
(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/1862/67643115.jpg)
Campo Pequeno 2010 - Deftones - Sextape (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTvS3vwNahA#ws)
thnks in advance
Looks like some kind of Epiphone.
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Archtop/Epiphone/70th-Anniversary-Lennon-Casino.aspx (http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Archtop/Epiphone/70th-Anniversary-Lennon-Casino.aspx)
WOW thank you! :D really appreciate your help man!
Something along like the Casino Edition http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/ES/Epiphone/Ltd-Ed-Casino-with-Bigsby.aspx (http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/ES/Epiphone/Ltd-Ed-Casino-with-Bigsby.aspx) or http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/ES/Epiphone/John-Lennon-1965-Casino-Outfit.aspx (http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/ES/Epiphone/John-Lennon-1965-Casino-Outfit.aspx)
I´m pretty sceptical that it´s a Gibson, the guitar head seems different, also triple humbucker no tremolo different pot, probably custom modded and from a different manufacturer maybe Korean
Defo an epiphone.
Quote from: Vesanic on Dec 20, 2010, 04:07 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4088/5190567828_e604699f16.jpg)
love this
Quote from: down_in_a_hole on Dec 17, 2010, 12:09 PM
DEFTONES unreleased & rare promo 2000 • Paris, France - HARD FORCE EXCLUSIVE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JVxtFE68Zc#)
DEFTONES @ Paris, France (Zénith) 29 juin 1998 • June 29, 1998 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0WQh8NbwgY#)
:D this two are great :)
Quote from: Vesanic on Dec 16, 2010, 04:32 PM
Looking for pictures from Palais Omnisports Paris Bercy 2003.
All photos copyright defsteve ;)
Just after Revolution Smile finished...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/defsteve/rev%20smile%20-%20europe%202003/P1010421.jpg)
Shaun Lopez singing 'Head Up' with Deftones
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/defsteve/rev%20smile%20-%20europe%202003/P1010428.jpg)
The 3 Bassists (Rev Smile, Deftones, Perfect Circle)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/defsteve/rev%20smile%20-%20europe%202003/P1010628.jpg)
Quote from: pony_01 on Dec 20, 2010, 10:32 AM
http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/lynkin151/image-3168510.jpg (http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/lynkin151/image-3168510.jpg)
i'm going to make a akteboard deck with this logo. anyone have it with bigger resolution? thanks in advance ;)
Hey ive mocked you one up, it isnt exactly right but fairly close if you want the file PM me i made the sizing the same as a standard skateboard deck
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/2120/88521584.png (http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/2120/88521584.png)
Quote from: wheresmysnare on Dec 23, 2010, 07:22 PM
Quote from: pony_01 on Dec 20, 2010, 10:32 AM
http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/lynkin151/image-3168510.jpg (http://i387.photobucket.com/albums/oo319/lynkin151/image-3168510.jpg)
i'm going to make a akteboard deck with this logo. anyone have it with bigger resolution? thanks in advance ;)
Hey ive mocked you one up, it isnt exactly right but fairly close if you want the file PM me i made the sizing the same as a standard skateboard deck
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/2120/88521584.png (http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/2120/88521584.png)
wow thank you man i really appreciate this big help thank you thank you very much im going to make skate deck with this ;)
Kerrang! Magazine
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldumy7kbe01qcd9abo1_500.jpg)
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldvkldHnWj1qcd9abo1_r1_500.jpg)
LOL!
They are looking really grown up nowadays...
by the way, what's that record he's holding with a horrible hat?
Rare live picture from Nov 1991, Sacto, Ca:
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y232/slyartwork/Band%20pics/19911127SacramentoCA.jpg)
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Dec 24, 2010, 02:00 PM
They are looking really grown up nowadays...
by the way, what's that record he's holding with a horrible hat?
Tenpel - La Sangre de Pegaso
Quote from: slyartwork on Dec 24, 2010, 02:56 PM
Rare live picture from Nov 1991, Sacto, Ca:
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y232/slyartwork/Band%20pics/19911127SacramentoCA.jpg)
Fucking love this.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/147/393494398_66c046b6af_m.jpg (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/147/393494398_66c046b6af_m.jpg)
Deftones hosting MTV`s 120 min. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hOjcfqclDU#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf_OHw2gJJg&feature=player_embedded# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf_OHw2gJJg&feature=player_embedded#)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/def_korn/ajsdf.png)
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy20/from_musings/chino2010.jpg)
Deftones Interview (December 2010) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ALBmszlJds#)
i guess here's the answer: http://www.myrareguitars.com/eastwood-airline-celebrity-sightings-dec-2010 (http://www.myrareguitars.com/eastwood-airline-celebrity-sightings-dec-2010)
Quote from: Novocaine on Jan 06, 2011, 04:19 PM
i guess here's the answer: http://www.myrareguitars.com/eastwood-airline-celebrity-sightings-dec-2010 (http://www.myrareguitars.com/eastwood-airline-celebrity-sightings-dec-2010)
hahaha. deftones stephen carpenter with his joey leon signature. stephen must have lost a lot of weight.
yeah, apparently they know better, cause they removed my comment pointing out that this is not steph carpenter :)
Quote from: Novocaine on Jan 06, 2011, 04:39 PM
yeah, apparently they know better, cause they removed my comment pointing out that this is not steph carpenter :)
Haha, for real ? Damn.
Quote from: Vesanic on Jan 06, 2011, 05:39 PM
Quote from: Novocaine on Jan 06, 2011, 04:39 PM
yeah, apparently they know better, cause they removed my comment pointing out that this is not steph carpenter :)
Haha, for real ? Damn.
man...
Why are you yelling SERG!!!
The answer is it's an Eastwood Joey Leone Signature guitar
(http://guitarcollecting.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/joeyleonetobacco1.jpg)
http://www.google.ie/images?q=eastwood%20joey%20leone&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1920&bih=885 (http://www.google.ie/images?q=eastwood%20joey%20leone&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1920&bih=885)
The end.
Nice to have a question asked and then legitimately answered without teasing and/or sarcasm.
If only these boards could be more like that the majority of the time. Very polite and constructive.
http://www.myyearbook.com/?mysession=bWFnX2FydGljbGVfcmVhZCZhaWQ9MzUzNjc= (http://www.myyearbook.com/?mysession=bWFnX2FydGljbGVfcmVhZCZhaWQ9MzUzNjc=)
An Interview with Chino from the Deftones
The singer opens up on Diamond Eyes and gives us an update on Chi.
May 24, 2010
The Deftones have always been an overwhelmingly creative force, but you wouldn't necessarily expect what could arguably be their best and brightest work in the wake of their biggest tragedy. In November of 2008, a car accident left bassist Chi Cheng in a coma. At the time of the accident, the Deftones had nearly completed their sixth studio album, Eros.
At the urging of Chi's family, the band forged on. They decided to scrap Eros and create an entirely new record from scratch. Below, Chino discusses why recording Diamond Eyes was unlike any experience they'd had before, how Chi is doing and how you can help.
Click here (http://www.oneloveforchi.com) to get the latest news on Chi's condition and donate to his cause!
You guys are in the midst of a huge tour. How are fans reacting to your new material off Diamond Eyes?
It's been one of the quickest positive reactions that we've gotten. Our record's been out for a week now and this is the most reaction we've gotten playing new music, just as far as the response from the crowd singing along with the new stuff. We're playing a good amount of it in the shows.
Is your live show different with your current line-up?
All around, there's a little light lit underneath us where we're all in a super good headspace and getting along really well. With what we've had to go through in the past couple of years with our bass player, Chi, I think it put things in perspective for us. Little things are little things now and everybody is so appreciative that we have each other and the opportunity to do what we do. The live shows have been really energetic and everyone's happy to be there. It's also the fact that we've been off the road for three years writing and recording, so everyone's energized right now.
Would you mind giving us an update on how Chi is doing?
He's still making progress. It's slow progress, he's slowly but surely coming around. He's got a really good team of doctors that are working with him. They're trying to get him to fully wake up. Right now he's in a semi-conscious state, which means he wakes up, he sleeps, he opens his eyes, but he has yet to communicate. Right now he's in northern California at home and he has his doctor, Dr. DeFina, who's got an 85% success rate in trying to get patients to wake up from a semi-conscious state.The doctor is on the east coast and we're working on getting Chi relocated so he's under Dr. DeFina's care full-time. We're still trying to raise money for him because all this stuff is not covered by insurance and he still needs help. We're trying to encourage everyone to go to One Love for Chi and help out. That site has all the most recent information about him.
Xstina wants to know, what was the inspiration behind the song "Diamond Eyes"? Why did you name the album after that song?
I looked at the whole batch of music and it had this really optimistic feel to it, as opposed to our last couple of records which were a little darker and had more depressing topics and songs. That was probably due to where we were as a band and where I was in my personal life. Although this time we were going through a hard time with Chi's situation, it seemed healthier for us to have a more optimistic view on life.It isn't party music or anything; I wanted to stray away from it being a sad record. The name "Diamond Eyes" to me sounded very optimistic: bright, open eyes looking out into the galaxy. It's as simple as that. I chose that song because I knew it was gonna be the first song on the record. It fit well with the lyrics and I knew it was would be a great way of approaching the start of the record.
Because of that positive vibe, was there a lighter mood in the studio while recording Diamond Eyes?
It was definitely more positive as far as our working relationship and our work ethics. There was a lot of focus on this record, whereas with the last few records, we were writing in the studio and working at our own pace. We always figured that's the way we do things, so we always kept it that way. But there was a fire lit underneath us when we decided we were gonna go in the studio a year-and-a-half after working on a different record that was almost complete when Chi had his accident.To make the decision to go in and start from scratch was a big chance to take. Financially, we already spent a lot of money and we needed to get back on tour to start earning money again, but we decided it would be the best thing to do. Everybody got into a really creative frame of mind and we just poured it all into the record. It was the most fun I've had making a record in a long time.I don't want to say the mood was light, because obviously we were still dealing with big issues. But we were just happy to be in a creative space and happy that we had each other, we had our health. It was, in a lot of ways, therapeutic for us to do that. It really shows in the final product.
Brad wants to know, do you have any plans on releasing Eros?
We do. We haven't actually sat down and talked about it, we haven't even really revisited it since Chi's accident. We put it in a vault and hold it dear to us, it's an important record. At this point, it was the last thing that Chi played on. But we haven't talked about how and when we'll do it. The best-case scenario would be that Chi would be back up on his feet and we'd be able to go out and tour the world with him again with that record.We feel as though all of our albums are a snapshot of the time they were recorded, but at the same time, they can stand the test of time. Even if we released it five years from now, it would still be very relevant.
Do you feel like your songwriting has changed since going through that period and writing Eros?
Definitely. We had a producer working with us this time named Nick Raskulinecz, who came in during pre-production. He was there during the songwriting process, which we've never had anyone do. He really helped us focus on the essence of our ideas. If we started writing a song, a lot of times we'd drift off and two weeks later we'd finish it. Having him there helped guide us back to the foundation that got us working on the song in the first place.He approached us and said he was really interested in working with the band and because he was a fan, he broke down the strong points of what we do and I really agreed with him. He wanted to bring that out and make that the focus for us, and he did exactly that.
How much do you feel you've changed as a band since your first few albums?
I feel like we've grown a lot. When we started this band, I was 15-years-old. I was a little boy. I'm 36 now. I had to grow up and learn a lot of things about life while I was in this band. I'm sure we've changed in a lot of ways. Lately, I feel we've changed in a lot of positive ways. In life, the more you put into something, the more you get out of it. I feel we've adapted that to our work and our music, and it seems to be paying off.
Ryan wants to know, despite all the band has been through, how do you keep moving forward with your music?
The music is part of our lives more than anything. It's therapeutic for us during any hard times. I would advise anyone, even if they're not in a band, if they're going through hard times; it's never a bad idea to bury yourself in your work. Our work is our music. Music is an escape for me. I put on music because I want to change my headspace or enhance a good feeling in some way. It's an escape to get you through things. That's probably one of the main reasons.
Esteban wants to know, what have you been listening to lately?
A lot of different things. I just got Smokey Robinson's greatest hits the other day and I can't stop listening to that. I've been listening to a lot of electronic stuff like Pantha Du Prince, Bohren and der Club of Gore and Fever Ray. I could go on for days. It's a lot of underground stuff, a lot of down-tempo electronic stuff. To me, that's an escape from all the harshness of all the music that I'm around all the time.
you've seen the butcher listed by myspace as one of the best videos of 2010
http://www.myspace.com/music/blog/2010/12/3/the-best-videos-of-2010 (http://www.myspace.com/music/blog/2010/12/3/the-best-videos-of-2010)
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/88/l_ae5d966ceae04ba0a61d3468df7ba3f8.png)
It took Deftones singer Chino Moreno 15 years to finally appear in a video topless and, clearly, the setting for this momentous event had to be a haunted, dust-filled school library. Replete with scantily clad models, overdramatic rock moves and a whole sea of bodily fluid-soaked onlookers, this was easily one of the most captivating alt-metal-whatever videos of the year. Seriously, we haven't wanted to be at a video shoot this bad since "Smells Like Teen Spirit."—Jonah Bayer
pretty stupid list and write up but deftones were in it soo.... thought i'd post.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 07, 2011, 07:37 PM
Seriously, we haven't wanted to be at a video shoot this bad since "Smells Like Teen Spirit."—Jonah Bayer
This is one of the most idiotic things I've ever had to read.
Quote from: Vesanic on Jan 07, 2011, 08:04 PM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 07, 2011, 07:37 PM
Seriously, we haven't wanted to be at a video shoot this bad since "Smells Like Teen Spirit."—Jonah Bayer
This is one of the most idiotic things I've ever had to read.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 07, 2011, 07:37 PM
It took Deftones singer Chino Moreno 15 years to finally appear in a video topless
This was the most idiotic part in my opinion.
i'm just glad people like the video
does anyone got this, without deftones writing on it? remember i download it from here, searched for it but no lucl :(. thanks in advance
(http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/s282836.jpg)
Damn, awhile back I took that image and removed the deftones logo, and touched it up a bit. Buuuuuuut, the computer that it was on is no more. :-\
It's a cool piece of art, I'd like to get a real version from the artist, or something.
Quote from: spitfire on Jan 11, 2011, 10:12 PM
does anyone got this, without deftones writing on it? remember i download it from here, searched for it but no lucl :(. thanks in advance
(http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/s282836.jpg)
No pic without deftones but interview with artist here :
http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php?topic=15115.0 (http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php?topic=15115.0)
will check my external hd to see if i have it somewhere there.im sure it had no deftones logo on it
i actually finished messing around with photoshop, and accidentally made this deftones gold logo (on b-sides and rarities cover) :
(http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/9607/deftonesbsidescopy.jpg)
if anyone interested, i could send the psd file ;)
bought the most current revolver magazine today and diamond eyes is ranked the #2 record of 2010 (avenged sevenfold was #1 but that fucking figures with revolver). i left the magazine at work but i'll scan it tomorrow.
Quote from: pony_01 on Jan 13, 2011, 08:28 AM
i actually finished messing around with photoshop, and accidentally made this deftones gold logo (on b-sides and rarities cover) :
if anyone interested, i could send the psd file ;)
I like it nicely done
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 15, 2011, 10:07 PM
bought the most current revolver magazine today and diamond eyes is ranked the #2 record of 2010 (avenged sevenfold was #1 but that fucking figures with revolver). i left the magazine at work but i'll scan it tomorrow.
why not #1 :) cool, so i'l be waiting for scans and thanks for info.
here ya go. nothing special and nothing we haven't heard before. pretty tiny write up. the avenged sevenfold got a page and a half so that's bullpoopy.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/def_korn/001.jpg)
:)Thanks homie.
I was hoping that avenged sevenfold was a fad that would die out. fuck. Ohhhh well at least its ranked higher than fucking godsmack
i really like those reddish purple pants that chino wears. i want some i think
Deftones dedicate BDO set to Chi
by CHRIS SCHULZ
It's been a long time since the Deftones performed in New Zealand - so long that singer Chino Moreno can't remember when they were last here.
"It's been quite a long time ... 2006? 2005? Was it 2003? Whew - that was a long time ago," says the front man for the Sacremento metal act in an interview with Stuff.co.nz.
If he sounds confused that's because many things have changed for Deftones since their last performance at the 2003 Big Day Out - the biggest being the band's line-up.
Yep, someone very important will be missing when Deftones hit the stage on Friday afternoon at the opening leg of the Big Day Out.
That man is Chi Cheng, the band's original bassist who remains in a coma after sustaining serious injuries in a car crash in 2008. He has been replaced by former Quicksand member Sergio Vega in the band's current line-up as they tour last year's acclaimed album Diamond Eyes.
Moreno - who is joined by guitarist Stef Carpenter, DJ Frank Delgado and drummer Abe Cunningham - says everything the band does is carried out with Cheng firmly in their thoughts.
"When this happened to him there was a chance we wouldn't have carried on as a band," he said.
"There's no bigger reason than doing this for Chi and fighting through this. We use it as a catalyst to keep going and to be friends and help each other through it."
They're hoping Cheng makes a full recovery - Moreno says Chi is stable and a new team of doctors are attempting "aggressive therapies" to bring him out of his coma - but in the meantime the band believes it is playing some of the best and most "energetic" shows of their career.
"I think we're a lot more aggressive now since 2003. At that time we were going through a stage which was more lackadaisical on our part. We're a rejuvenated band. There's a lot of aggression going on.
"Our shows have been really great, we feel really good for what we've been through. ... We're excited to play and get back down there."
They'll mostly be playing new material from Diamond Eyes - including surefire moshpit winners Rocket Skates, You've Seen the Butcher and the album's brutal title track - but Moreno says they'll mix in some old stuff as well.
Recent setlists have included fan favourites like My Own Summer (Shove It) and Be Quiet and Drive (Far Away) from 1997's breakthrough record Around the Fur, and tracks like Feiticeira and Change (In the House of Flies) from 2000's White Pony, an album that cemented the band's status as one of the world's most inventive metal acts.
We'll be playing a lot of everything, but a lot of new stuff as well. We're really excited about playing the new album, it was written as a live record. It has a very live feel to it and a lot of songs translate really well live."
But Moreno can't say if Maynard James Keenan - the Tool front man who will perform during the main stage closing slot later in the evening - will join them on stage for a live rendition of their song Passenger, from the 2000 album White Pony.
"We've played a lot of shows together before. He's very hit and miss on whether we're going to do it or not. I'd like to think there's a chance it could happen but I haven't talked to him so I don't know."
Deftones play the Orange Stage at the Big Day Out at 2.40pm on Friday.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/entertainment/4552621/Deftones-dedicate-BDO-set-to-Chi (http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/entertainment/4552621/Deftones-dedicate-BDO-set-to-Chi)
found this in a random blog ;D
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lf6xc3jYrH1qa1zngo1_500.jpg)
Quote from: dawg on Jan 19, 2011, 08:55 AM
found this in a random blog ;D
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lf6xc3jYrH1qa1zngo1_500.jpg)
omnomnom... so beautiful, must resist eating... O_o
God I hope maynard gets up there for passenger but its unlikely. He's not as spontaneous as he once was, he'll want to save his voice and I don't even know if he could really do it anymore. It was very noticeable on the last APC tour his voice isnt as it once was. He even admits he can't do it like he used to anymore.
Kirk Hammett from Metallica showed up at the last Tool gig, right ? So I guess they're not afraid of " posing "...
But you never know...
Maynard did refuse to play Passenger in 2003 and 2006, God knows why. And yeah, his voice is definitely going down... He'd still do better than Chino, though.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10700715 (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10700715)
Who: Deftones
Where and when: Big Day Out, Orange Stage, tomorrow, 2.40pm-3.30pm
Essential albums: Around the Fur (1997); White Pony (2000); Diamond Eyes (2010)
When Chino Moreno's bandmate Chi Cheng had a near-fatal car crash in 2008 it forced the Deftones' singer to take a long, hard look at himself.
He has battled alcohol and drug addiction throughout his career but his mate's accident - he's still recovering by the way - gave him "a new appreciation for life".
"When something like that happens you sit back and reflect and go, 'wow, any of this can go away at any moment'. So it really made us appreciate what we have [as a band]."
He says over the last 10 years the Californian metal act, who play a brand of beautifully heavy, all-consuming music, had become apathetic about their career. They had got to the stage where, thanks to albums like 1997's Around the Fur and 2000's excellent White Pony, they could "work when we wanted to work".
"Focus was something I was lacking for a long time, both with the music we make, my lifestyle in general, and my health, so since Chi's accident I feel personally my attitude has taken a 180 [degree turn]. I feel like I've prospered from that and I'm enjoying what we do even more. Physically and mentally I'm more energetic for the shows."
This new-found focus also helped the band come up with sixth album Diamond Eyes, which is their best since White Pony.
There is an uplifting and optimistic tone to the album yet it still retains that powerful, intense, almost suffocatingly heavy mood.
"With this batch of songs we really wanted to capture lightning in a bottle, and after what happened with Chi we got thrown into a whirlwind and emotionally everybody was going through it together," he says.
The most distinct feature of the Deftones' sound is Moreno's vocal style, that can go from a stoned whisper to a screaming shriek. He struggles to explain how he came up with it, but puts it down to chance and being into a wide range of music when he was growing up, from new wave and pop through to the brutality of metal.
"I always wanted to sing but I never knew how to, so I came up with my own thing I guess," he says. "And the more aggressive style comes from me just trying to be heard over the music [the band were playing]. So it was all learned by default and then it got to be what it is now where there are those dynamics."
And he's not just talking about vocal dynamic, but also the extremes within Deftones' music. "I honestly believe those waves of atmospheric sounds along with the really aggressive side makes our music stand out a little more from everything else out there. It makes us a little bit more heavy, and a little bit more beautiful."
i couldn't care less if keenan does passenger. dude is a dickhead
as long as he sings good, i think most people want him up there with chino on passanger. I think most people overlook that he is a dickhead in private / in interviews etc.Who cares about that,he's just gonna hit som melodies and then leave
really the only album i'm crazy about that he ever did is mer de noms. 13th step was ehh solid, and i'm only mildly into tool. opiate is their best imo
Quote from: Hidalgo on Jan 20, 2011, 02:19 AM
dude is a dickhead
Talk about some argument, really.
i'm just saying if he wants to be a pecker and refuse to do the song, that's fine by me. efff him
Deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS4p7ghgqyI#ws)
Cascais, i used to live there =D
Quote from: Hidalgo on Jan 21, 2011, 04:05 AM
i'm just saying if he wants to be a pecker and refuse to do the song, that's fine by me. efff him
word
DEFTONES NEW BASSIST SERGIO VEGA TALKS ABOUT FITTING IN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbiMaS_J5RY#ws)
http://www.3news.co.nz/Deftones-Big-Day-Out-2011-interview/tabid/551/articleID/195784/Default.aspx (http://www.3news.co.nz/Deftones-Big-Day-Out-2011-interview/tabid/551/articleID/195784/Default.aspx)
Cool interview and mention of a new record coming
“We still have yet to headline the States, which is kind of cool because our record has been out 8 months now. We’re going to finish that off, and we’ve actually already made plans to go in and start writing our new record.”
— Chino Moreno on whats next for Deftones (Interview with David Farrier 25 Jan 2011)
Deftones talk about eventual new record and Big Day Out - Auckland, January 21st 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WDQnz0-0gE#ws)
what.
like... a brand new record?!
even though it's pushing Eros back even more, i am extremely ecstatic!
have you guys seen the interview?
Yes i just finished watching it. when i heard that i got ecsatic also hah.
Im just happy they arent going on hiatus. By then i'll have enough money to see them on tour plenty times.
8)
video please???
http://www.3news.co.nz/Deftones-Big-Day-Out-2011-interview/tabid/418/articleID/195784/Default.aspx (http://www.3news.co.nz/Deftones-Big-Day-Out-2011-interview/tabid/418/articleID/195784/Default.aspx)
David Farrier sat down with Chino Moreno and Sergio Vega of the band after their afternoon performance at the Big Day Out to chat about it, their career and other bands they like, including the Naked and Famous.
(http://www.3news.co.nz/Portals/0-Articles/195784/ex_deftones_600.jpg?width=300)
please not diamond eyes II
R.I.P. Team Sleep
seriously. where the feck can i get some of those red/maroon pants chino is wearing? i really want some.
oh don't worry i think i've found someee
http://www.topman.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?beginIndex=0&viewAllFlag=&catalogId=33056&storeId=12555&productId=2176000&langId=-1&categoryId=&parent_category_rn=&searchTerm=RASPBERRY&resultCount=1 (http://www.topman.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?beginIndex=0&viewAllFlag=&catalogId=33056&storeId=12555&productId=2176000&langId=-1&categoryId=&parent_category_rn=&searchTerm=RASPBERRY&resultCount=1)
first interview that talks about a new album, nice. hopefully it will be out in 2012. should be awesome with the frame of mind they're in. they should definitely go with Nick Raskulinecz again
Quote from: Hidalgo on Jan 25, 2011, 12:24 PM
first interview that talks about a new album, nice. hopefully it will be out in 2012. should be awesome with the frame of mind they're in. they should definitely go with Nick Raskulinecz again
No. Hell no.
i agree not Nick. but they prob will choose him again
Interview of Chi & Frank - Triple J Radio - February 26th 2007
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SBP4S7M0 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SBP4S7M0)
You gotta check that one out, it's hilarious.
nick produced their best album in 10 years, i bet they'll want him back, i sure do. plus he can get them to work faster
The production and sound quality on DE is nice and crisp, definitely better than SNW and probably also my beloved S/T. They also aren't going to make DE Pt. 2. They don't repeat themselves on albums. That being said, do expect Chongo to say the next album sounds like White Pony.
Well they seem really excited about what they do now so it seems practical enough to start writing a new one but I thought they said they wanted to tour DE as long as possible.
As a producer I desperately want Terry Date back. Nick was good but a DE 2 would bum me out.
Downsides, this would push Eros back and would effectively kill team sleep. It would be cool to see another 'tones record so soon though. One of the worst part of being a fan is the waiting we always have to do. It's better than being a tool fan though. Perhaps they want to finish off their contract sooner so theycan start releasing things independently. I'm sure I've heard chino say he'd like to be able to do that.
On another note, nice bleach job Sergio.
i think team sleep's been dead since 2006. Chino can't juggle the two, he tried and it just didn't work. i don't think they'll ever release another album. best case senario imo is Chino puts some vocals down on a ts track once a year or so, and maybe a few tour dates in any off time. doubt all that too though, i think TS is history
Yeah they're dead. It's a shame.
There you go:
Deftones talk about eventual new record and Big Day Out - Auckland, January 21st 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WDQnz0-0gE#ws)
Quote from: Penicks on Jan 25, 2011, 10:36 AM
please not diamond eyes II
this also entails no Nick Raskulinecz.
Quote from: the same sound on Jan 25, 2011, 08:20 PM
You guys are just rude.
Team Sleep is just taking a nap... ::)
No pun intended, right ?
;)
exciting shit! The more I listen to diamond eyes (and im still listening to it) the more I like it. I'm well ghey for every album they've done so another one can only be a good thing.
Doesn't bode so well for a european tour this summer / autumn though, other than the usual festival circuit, I suppose there is a chance that they will even just pop by for the big festival dates with no (or very few) headline dates along the way.. . . I'm starting to think . . Download or Sonisphere? Or either?
new record...ahahahha. yeah right...
what's given you the slightest idea they're alive since after 05? as far as Chino being involved, and a new rcecord with Chino and full on tours it's pretty much over. seems that way anyway. if TS isn't dead it's definitely on life support
Quote from: E-Money on Jan 26, 2011, 04:02 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Jan 25, 2011, 07:57 PM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 25, 2011, 06:12 PM
Yeah they're dead.
Nope.
Team Sleep is not dead. Thats just foolish.
why? they haven't announced anything, toured, released anything, or officially written anything in years. they seem pretty dead to me. i like to hold out hope that one day we'll get another TS record but at this point it seems incredibly unlikely. maybe they'll play a few shows or release a new song or two (though i highly doubt that) but that'd be the extent of it in my opinion. it's more likely chino would become involved in a new side project like the holy ghost and then go back to deftones. at this rate if we did see anything at all from TS again it wouldn't be for a good many years.
i hate to say it but i agree i think Team Sleep is dead. well the touring album making Team Sleep im sure Chino and Todd will still make music together. Im glad I saw them when I did.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 26, 2011, 02:22 PM
why? they haven't announced anything, toured, released anything, or officially written anything in years.
Pretty much like Blur did from 2003 to 2008, you know.
Quote from: White Wrist on Jan 26, 2011, 12:45 AM
new record...ahahahha. yeah right...
yeah - we got the exact same shit after s/t and saturday night wrist. just a few months after release they started talking about a new record, how it will be back to the roots and done in 2 months. we know what happened...
Quote from: Vesanic on Jan 26, 2011, 02:54 PM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 26, 2011, 02:22 PM
why? they haven't announced anything, toured, released anything, or officially written anything in years.
Pretty much like Blur did from 2003 to 2008, you know.
and then they were back. so not dead, just on hiatus.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 26, 2011, 02:22 PM
Quote from: E-Money on Jan 26, 2011, 04:02 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Jan 25, 2011, 07:57 PM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jan 25, 2011, 06:12 PM
Yeah they're dead.
Nope.
Team Sleep is not dead. Thats just foolish.
why? they haven't announced anything, toured, released anything, or officially written anything in years. they seem pretty dead to me. i like to hold out hope that one day we'll get another TS record but at this point it seems incredibly unlikely. maybe they'll play a few shows or release a new song or two (though i highly doubt that) but that'd be the extent of it in my opinion. it's more likely chino would become involved in a new side project like the holy ghost and then go back to deftones. at this rate if we did see anything at all from TS again it wouldn't be for a good many years.
Todd and Chino have been making music for a long time. Yea Chino is busy with other shit but no way they are just gonna stop. I doubt we'll see anything from them for a long time but there will be a Team Sleep record or at least some more songs in our future some day...
And a couple months ago I asked Todd on facebook if they were done and he said no, just busy with other things and taking a break!
I can't even believe how caught up some of you are with how "dead" Team Sleep has been. Give the guy a break, he obviously has a lot on his plate.
Quote from: the same sound on Jan 26, 2011, 04:16 PM
Give the guy a break, he obviously has a lot on his plate.
If only it was still 2006...perfect set-up for a fat joke.
In all seriousness though, we know he can't balance both Deftones rigorous touring schedule and TS (now he's also got THG too!). I don't blame him for that. We're just acknowledging that if they are gearing up for another 'Tones record, TS is really going to be on the back burner. Even more so than before. Once they finish and release LP7, they'll go right back to touring for another two years. Personally, I'd be fine with a Deftones hiatus so he can go focus on TS/THG and Steph could go do Sol Invincto. Maybe also release Eros instead? Just my two cents, though (actually, my opinion is probably worth less than that). Of course, they are obviously feeling reinvigorated as a band, DT is their bread and butter and, at the end of the day, it's their decision to do whatever they want. Just hypothetically musing here.
Either way, Team Sleep album in 2027 YA'LL!
Quote from: Inkblades on Jan 26, 2011, 07:16 PM
If only it was still 2006...perfect set-up for a fat joke.
Bahahahaha
Quote from: deftjess on Jan 25, 2011, 04:27 AM
http://www.3news.co.nz/Deftones-Big-Day-Out-2011-interview/tabid/551/articleID/195784/Default.aspx (http://www.3news.co.nz/Deftones-Big-Day-Out-2011-interview/tabid/551/articleID/195784/Default.aspx)
Cool interview and mention of a new record coming
New record. Nuff said!!! And thanks for posting, I'm riding a wave now....
http://eqmag.com/article/riff-riff-/June-2010/113865 (http://eqmag.com/article/riff-riff-/June-2010/113865)
Keep it simple, play from the heart, and at all costs make it heavy. That about sums up what veteran alternaslammers Deftones had in mind when they got down to creating their sixth album, Diamond Eyes, just out on Reprise. While the band has rarely failed to elevate their brave brand of riff-tastic, brontosaurus beats to spacey new heights, Diamond Eyes brings the sound—and the song—right on down to earth.
Recorded by Grammy-winning producer Nick Raskulinecz (Foo Fighters, Marilyn Manson, Velvet Revolver) at L.A.'s The Pass Studios, the new album's game plan was to get back to keeping things real, albeit in Deftones' singularly surrealistic way
"I really wanted this record to have a punchier, it's-a-little-more-about-theriff type sound, and less about the ambience," Raskulinecz says. "I wanted it to be dense and thick and really heavy. And I wanted to create the space and atmosphere through Chino [Moreno]'s vocals, instead of having the music and the vocals be like that, which is a pattern they had fallen into with their last couple of albums."
SUPER-REHEARSALS, TIGHT PRODUCTION
In late 2008, bass player Chi Cheng was in a serious car accident and slipped into a coma. His recovery has been very slow (see progress reports at Oneloveforchi.com). In light of Cheng's condition and the band's belief that the sessions for their album, Eros, didn't represent where they wanted to go creatively, they delayed the release and changed tack. Substituting for Cheng, old friend Sergio Vega filled in on bass for Diamond Eyes.
The band underwent intensive preproduction rehearsals/writing sessions with Raskulinecz, who served much like a film director in shaping the band's new songs. Under Raskulinecz' strict aegis, the band put together nine of the album's 11 songs in the first week of warmup at The Alley in North Hollywood.
"We wrote it in the rehearsal space, and those guys just played," he says. "I wanted to take it back to the basics, and part of doing that was just getting them in the room together and sweating and getting close and really tight. When they set up in the room, they had all their amps and other gear spread really far apart, like they were out on a big stage, and I made them push all their amps as close as they could to the drums. I wanted everybody to be standing really close together—I wanted 'em to be a band, you know, and it totally worked."
By the time the band did get into the studio, they were well prepared and rehearsed, having played every single day in that rehearsal room from noon to six. "When it came time to start recording," drummer Abe Cunningham says, "we were ready to go. It was a breeze, and a joy. We hadn't been that prepared in 15 years."
The band and producer chose The Pass Studios for its famed and rather peculiar combination of super-tight and ultra-huge acoustical properties. "There are two studios in the building, and the room we were in is an older, '70s kind of room, with a big control room," says Raskulinecz. "The tracking room has a very high ceiling, and it's kind of rectangular, but it starts to twist at one side and almost turns into a triangle. It's a tough room to work in, because it's really dead."
Even so, that sonic tautness was exactly what Raskulinecz thought Deftones needed. "I knew by the time we mixed this album that it wasn't gonna be about how big the drum room was, it'd be about how tight and punchy the drum sound was," he says. "It's hard to get that in a big room, because you get that sound in all your mics, too; you can turn it off, but it's still gonna be in the overheads, it's still gonna be there every time you hit the snare."
TOTAL TREATMENT
Utilizing the studio's Neve 8078 board, Raskulinecz opted to go allanalog front-end, with old tube mics and Neve preamps going straight into Pro Tools. The album's hardcrunching guitar and bass sounds were entirely grabbed off miked cabinets, with nary a trace of direct-inject into the board. He used the Neve 8078 for all the drums input, and did all the guitars with Neve 1073s. While he favors a pure analog tracking into those old Neve boards, Raskulinecz favored a wide range of digital tools for EQ, delay/reverb, compression, and other enhancements, all mixed through an SSL 6000 K console at Paramount studios in Hollywood.
"I like the Waves SSL G-series Channel Strip for combining EQ and dynamics," he says. "I like the Renaissance EQs—they just sound good. You turn the dial and you hear it; it's subtle, but it's kind of aggressive; if I'm gonna EQ something, I wanna hear it."
Diamond Eyes' paradoxically punchy but widescreen wizardry is dominated by Raskulinecz's beloved Line 6 Echo Farm effects. "I use it on everything, especially vocals," he says. "But I really like the UAD plug-ins, too, and I think overall they probably sound the best; I love the SSL stuff, but the UAD stuff is great because they have a lot of the same versions of the same things."
For that devilishly tricky process known as compression, Raskulinecz keeps it cheap and simple: "The dbx 160XT is my favorite compressor. You can buy them for a hundred bucks apiece on eBay nowadays, and I've got like eight of 'em that I've bought over the years. I'll use them on everything, because they're really fast and really clean."
Raskulinecz also owns a number of dbx 160 VU compressor/limiters as well as a Teletronix LA-2A, and for other simulated tube compression he currently likes the Fairchild 660, as well as Retro Instruments' Sta- Level and 176 Limiting Amplifier.
DIRTY GUITARS, AMBIENT VOCALS
Mixing it up mic-wise was a way to capture Diamond Eyes' spectacular instrumental textures. For guitars, Raskulinecz used a Neumann U 47 alongside a Shure SM7. "You get the width, depth, and clarity with the fat U 47; then you add the SM7, and that gives it the guts and the beef and the hair." For the bass, he used a Telefunken Ela M 251, which, he says, never fails to provide a very full range of sound.
Yet the guitar and bass sonorities were the product of an odd hodgepodge of varied amplifier heads and cabinets alongside assorted mic combinations. The sole amps employed were those of guitarist Stephen Carpenter, with Marshall JMP-1 preamps.
"This record has a cool sound to it," Cunningham says, "because Stephen is playing a custom ESP eight-string; it's the first album he's done that on, and it really put the bass guitar in a totally different spot, because the guitar is actually lower than the bass."
There's very little "clean" guitar on the album, and most of the ambience comes from Moreno's vocals, the clarity of which was ensured with a Telefunken Ela M 251. If Moreno wanted to use a hand-held mic, Raskulinecz and his engineer Paul Figueroa assembled a U 87 with a radio broadcast windscreen, a large piece of foam around it, and a lot of duct tape.
MYRIAD MICS, MINIMAL OVERDUBS
And as for the album's simply spectacular drum sound? "There were mics everywhere, just an insane mic setup," Cunningham says with a laugh.
"I like to use a lot of mics," says Raskulinecz. "I'm very particular about recording drums." His drum-miking arsenal for Cunningham included a Shure Beta 57 on the snare top, a Neumann KM 84 on the side of the snare, and a Sennheiser MD 441 on the bottom of the snare. There was a Sennheiser e 602 inside the kick with an Adam ANF10 speaker on the outside. Toms were captured with AKG C 414 condensers. Overheads were the Ela M 251s, and then there were several room mics, including a pair of RCA 44 ribbon mics in front of the kit, placed close to the drums but spread wide, and Neumann U 47s handled the big, faraway room sound.
Given the modern recording studio's tantalizing temptation to conjure enormous heaps of sonic magic, how on earth does a band keep its eye on the prize? Raskulinecz is convinced that simplicity—and the message in the music—is the key.
"I try to keep it stripped-down the whole time," he says. "It's really easy to get too dense and go too far with it— and you know, sometimes we do, depending on what the song calls for. But it's really about the song and not about the overdubs, not about how cool something sounds—it's how great the song is."
Ultimately, Cunningham says, a band ought to sound like a band: "The studio is the place where you can get as busy as you want to get, especially these days with the infinite amount of tracks you can use with digital recording tools. But you might shoot yourself in the foot when it comes to re-creating that live. It shouldn't be that difficult. For lack of a better word, we're a rock 'n' roll band."
Interesting...... wonder how they will record the next one they talked about and if Nick will produce that one after DE's success. Actually, anyone have a hunch? Anyone hope Terry Date comes back for the next? Just curious about what others think. My only wish is that Steph lays off of the 8 string and goes with 6 and 7. Thanks V, as always homie. ???
Quote from: Inkblades on Jan 26, 2011, 07:16 PM
Quote from: the same sound on Jan 26, 2011, 04:16 PM
Give the guy a break, he obviously has a lot on his plate.
If only it was still 2006...perfect set-up for a fat joke.
In all seriousness though, we know he can't balance both Deftones rigorous touring schedule and TS (now he's also got THG too!). I don't blame him for that. We're just acknowledging that if they are gearing up for another 'Tones record, TS is really going to be on the back burner. Even more so than before. Once they finish and release LP7, they'll go right back to touring for another two years. Personally, I'd be fine with a Deftones hiatus so he can go focus on TS/THG and Steph could go do Sol Invincto. Maybe also release Eros instead? Just my two cents, though (actually, my opinion is probably worth less than that). Of course, they are obviously feeling reinvigorated as a band, DT is their bread and butter and, at the end of the day, it's their decision to do whatever they want. Just hypothetically musing here.
Either way, Team Sleep album in 2027 YA'LL!
It all sounds good in any order to me actually. Love all these scenarios. As long as the other members of TS and THG are still down years from now though, Chino would still be physically able to make these sorts of music. Get the Deftones' hard shit out while he physically can (screaming and running around on stage like a raped date) and then continuing his music career until he dies (like he said he would) w these and other projects. Fucking love it man, and it's all possible and hopeful for us all, bros, RIDE THE WAVE
Quote from: Hidalgo on Jan 26, 2011, 01:18 PM
what's given you the slightest idea they're alive since after 05? as far as Chino being involved, and a new rcecord with Chino and full on tours it's pretty much over. seems that way anyway. if TS isn't dead it's definitely on life support
It's Chino's graduate school criteria for his DT's post-graduation,lol
Quote from: Hidalgo on Jan 26, 2011, 01:18 PM
what's given you the slightest idea they're alive since after 05? as far as Chino being involved, and a new rcecord with Chino and full on tours it's pretty much over. seems that way anyway. if TS isn't dead it's definitely on life support
It's Chino's graduate school criteria for his DT's post-graduation,lol
Quote from: deftones86 on Jan 26, 2011, 02:42 PM
i hate to say it but i agree i think Team Sleep is dead. well the touring album making Team Sleep im sure Chino and Todd will still make music together. Im glad I saw them when I did.
LUCKY YOU
deftones announce that they plan to make a new record and everyone begin to talk about how it will affect team sleep? are you guys lost team sleep diehards who have gone astray and stumbled into a deftones page by accident? I would understand these posts more if they were on a team sleep site......but at a deftones board? I can listen to some team sleep once in a while waiting for a new deftones album, but you guys seem to prefer to listen to deftones while a new team sleep is done. deftones fans who want them to take a break? amazing. i say fuuuuuck team sleep.
and what are the faces sergio's doing at 2:45 when chino name drops bands? stop doing those please ^^
They can record with Nick Raskulinexaghagga all they want but it needs more punchy punch on the drums and not a bucket snare.
Very nice interview of Abe
January 26th 2011 - JAM88.3, Philippines
http://soundcloud.com/sonicboomph/jam88-3-interviews-deftones-1-26-11 (http://soundcloud.com/sonicboomph/jam88-3-interviews-deftones-1-26-11)
Quote from: nineteen on Jan 27, 2011, 07:28 PM
They can record with Nick Raskulinexaghagga all they want but it needs more punchy punch on the drums and not a bucket snare.
Lawl.. What?
I think you need better speakers/headphones.
Oh, Iceache, it's been a while.
Quote from: from_musings on Jan 27, 2011, 12:56 PM
deftones announce that they plan to make a new record and everyone begin to talk about how it will affect team sleep? are you guys lost team sleep diehards who have gone astray and stumbled into a deftones page by accident? I would understand these posts more if they were on a team sleep site......but at a deftones board? I can listen to some team sleep once in a while waiting for a new deftones album, but you guys seem to prefer to listen to deftones while a new team sleep is done. deftones fans who want them to take a break? amazing. i say fuuuuuck team sleep.
and what are the faces sergio's doing at 2:45 when chino name drops bands? stop doing those please ^^
Cheer up already. We don't all live in your "Realityville" so take it easy man. It's like you don't want to join in any reindeer games or something.
i'm gonna made this deck and i'm sure THIS IS GONNA BE AWESOME! CANT WAIT TIL FEB 8 !!
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Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Jan 28, 2011, 04:29 AM
Quote from: from_musings on Jan 27, 2011, 12:56 PM
deftones announce that they plan to make a new record and everyone begin to talk about how it will affect team sleep? are you guys lost team sleep diehards who have gone astray and stumbled into a deftones page by accident? I would understand these posts more if they were on a team sleep site......but at a deftones board? I can listen to some team sleep once in a while waiting for a new deftones album, but you guys seem to prefer to listen to deftones while a new team sleep is done. deftones fans who want them to take a break? amazing. i say fuuuuuck team sleep.
and what are the faces sergio's doing at 2:45 when chino name drops bands? stop doing those please ^^
Cheer up already. We don't all live in your "Realityville" so take it easy man. It's like you don't want to join in any reindeer games or something.
;D
I couldn't make out the name of the band that Chino said was going to be opening for them and DillingerEascapePlan.
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Jan 28, 2011, 04:29 AM
Cheer up already. We don't all live in your "Realityville"
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well it's better to live in Realityville than in Cloud Cuckoo land ;)
Lol, in the nicest way possible, Sergio is such a fucking goober, lol. Next time I see him, I'm going to do the "Kevin Shields" test and see if he gets all goofy on me.
Much respect,
-Matt
Quote from: pinkmaggit69 on Jan 30, 2011, 04:32 PM
I couldn't make out the name of the band that Chino said was going to be opening for them and DillingerEascapePlan.
Le Butcherettes
this eventual record will again, according to chino, be the best stuff they've ever wrote and sound like white pony. stephen needs to step it up this time. he needs to utilize that 8-string beast and rip it apart nicely. stop smoking weed and start writing some cool heavy stuff!
not saying his writing his bad but theres so much more he can contribute
http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/features/27070/Deftones (http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/features/27070/Deftones)
It's been an important and hectic twelve months in the history of Deftones and frontman Chino Moreno has been taking a well-earned break at home in California. When FL speaks to him he's heading for the mountains to do some snowboarding, an activity which no doubt provides some respite from fronting one of the most popular bands in heavy music.
In the past year Deftones have released their sixth album, toured through the northern hemisphere with a new band member and celebrated the tenth anniversary of the landmark White Pony record. Add to this the thought of having a seriously injured band mate in hospital and anyone would forgive Moreno for needing some powder therapy on the ski slopes, but surprisingly he says he's feeling invigorated after 2010.
"The prior years to that last year, we were going through a lot of stuff within in the band so we actually got to 2010 and got to release the record... It was a really invigorating kind of feeling that we were moving forward and doing things," he explains. "It was still tough, we're out their supporting the record and stuff and Chi (Cheng) is still really heavy on our minds, so to this day we still deal with it but I think we feel pretty strong, probably stronger than we've felt in the last five years, as far as the band, our friendships, our relationships and our work ethic and everything [goes]."
When FL spoke with Deftones drummer Abe Cunningham in April last year, Cheng was in a minimally conscious state and being fed through a tube. Moreno says he's still in a similar situation: "He's pretty much the same, but he is improving... we're trying right now to get him some more aggressive therapy and just extradite the situation, so that's what we're working on and we're just being optimistic... I think we're all very hopeful that he will get better, as for if he'll ever be on stage playing bass with us again- I can only hope so, but I would never know. If anything I just hope he can live some what of a normal life."
Quote from: juvenile on Jan 31, 2011, 04:56 AM
this eventual record will again, according to chino, be the best stuff they've ever wrote and sound like white pony. stephen needs to step it up this time. he needs to utilize that 8-string beast and rip it apart nicely. stop smoking weed and start writing some cool heavy stuff!
not saying his writing his bad but theres so much more he can contribute
steph stop smoking weed? i think that'd just flat out ruin deftones. he should start smoking more weed! and if anything he needs to go back to the 6 or 7 string.
Where exactly did all this hate for the 8 string come from?
i like the 8 string a lot more than the 7 string. i prefer 6 strings over either, but i doubt he'd ever go six again. i want him to keep using the 8 string, and be more creative with it
Quote from: iceache on Jan 28, 2011, 12:22 AM
Quote from: nineteen on Jan 27, 2011, 07:28 PM
They can record with Nick Raskulinexaghagga all they want but it needs more punchy punch on the drums and not a bucket snare.
Lawl.. What?
I think you need better speakers/headphones.
Or better ears! I guess it isn't that bad but hey
Quote from: Starz on Jan 25, 2011, 11:02 AM
seriously. where the feck can i get some of those red/maroon pants chino is wearing? i really want some.
I had been thinking about getting these before I even saw chino sporting them but I thought I might look like a french foreign exchange student:
https://www.urbanexcess.com/p-7458-carhartt-slim-seattle-corduroy-jeans-burgandy-wine.aspx (https://www.urbanexcess.com/p-7458-carhartt-slim-seattle-corduroy-jeans-burgandy-wine.aspx)
Quote from: the same sound on Jan 25, 2011, 08:21 PM
Quote from: Penicks on Jan 25, 2011, 10:36 AM
please not diamond eyes II
this also entails no Nick Raskulinecz.
It's started already - all the complaints about Diamond Eyes. When it was released it was perfect in everyones eyes, now the dissatisfaction starts spreading - it's like opinions are contagious here sometimes.
I especially don't understand all the comments about the 8 string. I think it's great. It enabled them to do something different for Diamond Eyes and gives them a sound noone else has. Plus Stef really seems to be enjoying himself which is a good thing.
I personally think it is so awesome, I love the sound of it and can't wait to hear the places Stef takes it to next.
Terry has produced my favourite albums of all time so of course I'd love to see him back.
I really like Diamond Eyes however I'd love to see something darker and less poppy like S/T again. I think this is up to the band though, not Nick.
Having said this, I really don't mind if they choose Nick again.
Diamond Eyes was very crisp and well produced and the thing I like about him is that he really gets the band excited and working quickly - just look at all the energy and good vibes in the Tones camp at the moment. I think that we'll get a new album a lot sooner if NIck is on board.
Quote from: from_musings on Jan 27, 2011, 12:56 PM
deftones announce that they plan to make a new record and everyone begin to talk about how it will affect team sleep? are you guys lost team sleep diehards who have gone astray and stumbled into a deftones page by accident? I would understand these posts more if they were on a team sleep site......but at a deftones board? I can listen to some team sleep once in a while waiting for a new deftones album, but you guys seem to prefer to listen to deftones while a new team sleep is done. deftones fans who want them to take a break? amazing. i say fuuuuuck team sleep.
and what are the faces sergio's doing at 2:45 when chino name drops bands? stop doing those please ^^
Well said.
Team Sleep is really cool but has nothing on Deftones. That's why I'm here afterall.
I'd love to see a new TS album as long as it doesn't get in the way of Deftones in any way WHATSOEVER. It's really secondary to me and there is absolutely no way EVER that I'd want Deftones to take a hiatus in the insterests of TS - That's just MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The following interview's a damn good one, at least guy who has some decent questions
January 2011 is an interesting time for Australian fans to be witnessing Californian hard rock act Deftones. Here in the country for their first tour since 2007 – they headlined the Soundwave Festival that year – it's been eight months since the five-piece released their sixth album, Diamond Eyes, to extensive critical acclaim (TheVine included). They've been on the road for most of that time, seemingly becoming comfortable with splicing new material amongst enough tracks from their big-sellers – second album Around The Fur (1997), and follow-up White Pony (2000) – to keep the long-term fans happy.
Diamond Eyes holds some of the heaviest tracks the band have ever committed to tape. Built around Stephen Carpenter's Meshuggah-like downtuned guitars and Abe Cunningham's punishing percussion, the album's 11 tracks marry beauty and brutality in a way that Deftones had never – up until this point – fully realised. Despite the melancholy the band had been confronted with in the last few years – an underwhelming fifth album in 2006's Saturday Night Wrist; drug addiction; and bassist Chi Cheng's car accident in 2008, resulting in a severe head trauma that has kept him in a semi-conscious state ever since – Diamond Eyes, against the odds, is arguably the band's most uplifting and optimistic release in their 23-year history.
In the middle of the national Big Day Out tour, The Vine connects with singer – and occasional live guitarist – Chino Moreno on Friday 28 January, the eve of their first BDO sideshow at the University of NSW Roundhouse.
Andrew: I'm interested to know what an average day as part of the Big Day Out tour looks like.
Chino: It's pretty mellow. We play semi-early, in the middle of the day, and I've not yet adjusted to the time change here, so I've been waking up every single morning at like 5 or 6am. So I'm up super early. I go out, I get coffee. I usually go for a run or something, and cruise around. I don't get there until a little after noon. I get to the venue, and there's usually a little bit of press or something like that, and then I get ready to play. We've been averaging to go on stage between 4 or 5pm. We play our set, and then hang out, and check out some of the other bands. There's a few good groups who I'm into who're on the lineup this year. So I cruise around and see some good stuff.
I saw a video interview with a New Zealand website from last week, where you mentioned that you're digging a band called The Naked and Famous.
Yeah, I actually met them on the first night of the tour. They gave me one of their records, and I've listened to it, and I'm digging it. It's similar to a lot of the stuff that I listen to, when I'm not listening to very loud music [laughs].
Have you made any other musical discoveries while here on tour, so far?
I wouldn't say 'discoveries', so much. I got to see some bands live that I've never seen, like Crystal Castles. I got to see them perform live, which I was really into. I really like the records, so it was good to be able to see them live. Tool, as well; a lot of the time, I get to see them.
Has Rammstein's stage production convinced you to look into including pyrotechnics in your set?
[Laughs] I don't know, man. I don't know if that'd work for us. I don't know if we have the finances for that. They have, like, flames that go off every three minutes. That's gotta be pretty pricey. But no, it's cool; I always enjoy watching them play, because it's very theatrical. They're great dudes; they're super nice. When you watch them on stage, you think they're these huge beasts. But they're very humble.
I saw you at the Gold Coast show on Sunday. I've followed your music for over a decade, but hadn't seen you play live before. I get the impression that as a live band, you're in your prime at the moment.
Cool, thank you. I don't know about this week; maybe a month ago, we were a little more in our prime. We were at home for like a month, and that was the longest break we've had since we started touring on this record. That, accumulated with the heat, and coming from winter into summertime... But I think musically, we're having a lot of fun. More fun than we've had in years. We're enjoying the shows. I think we're playing pretty decently, but it's a matter of getting accustomed to, for one, the sleep. Usually, a couple of hours before we play, I'm yawning, so I've been drinking Red Bulls and stuff, and trying to shake it off and get energised. But that sun – it's a beast, man.
I don't see many bands wearing red jeans anymore, which is a shame. Are they favourites of yours, the ones you were wearing on Sunday?
I have a few pairs of them. I try not to have one 'look', I guess. I don't wanna make that my 'thing', so I'm gonna have to switch it up a little, or else people will start to think I'm the dude in the red pants, you know what I mean? [laughs] It's kinda like I don't wanna be the dude in the red hat.
You're in pretty good shape at the moment. It seemed like you couldn't wait to get your shirt off and show everyone.
[Laughs] No – I was really hot. I was actually embarrassed after I took it off. I had to put on another shirt. But I was just so damn hot. I thought the long sleeve would work for me, but the shade was slowly disappearing. I'm still a little self-conscious. I mean, I work out and stuff, but I can always use a little more definition. That's a goal – a good goal.
What prompted you to lose weight in the last couple of years?
Just feeling better, and looking better. I'd been depressed for a while, man. For a lot of reasons. It probably started five or six years ago, from just going through divorces, taking so much time making records, and record company crap. Those were sort of dark days. It was a dark period in our career, but also my life. Just drugs, and shit that was not getting me anywhere fast. Once I cut that stuff out, and started to see things clearly, I started to realise that if I sweat a little bit every day, I sleep better. And if I sleep better, I wake up feeling happier. It's a vicious cycle; pretty soon, you look at yourself and you start recognising yourself again.
I heard a lot of people chanting for 'Passenger' on the Gold Coast. Were you expecting that?
We're going to play it tonight [at the sideshow in Sydney]. Obviously it'd be great if Maynard was to perform with us. But he ends up getting to the gigs later, for one, and he's real particular about his voice, as far as ruining it, or straining it before he has the Tool show. Which is understandable. We've done it before, though, on the same day that he's played with Tool. So there could be a chance that it could happen once on this Big Day Out [tour]. But it wouldn't be during the first stage [of the tour], and I figured if we included it in the [BDO] set, the best time to do it would be if he was to perform it with us. So we'll see.
I notice that you've been mixing up the setlists a lot here in Australia. Your set at the second Sydney BDO was really heavy on White Pony material. Did that just come down to how you guys were all feeling on the day?
Yeah. We write the setlist usually a couple of hours before we play. But we obviously knew that we wanted to play a different set than we did on the first day, minus a couple of songs that stayed the same. But when I started writing it out yesterday, I just felt a little bit heavier on the White Pony stuff. And I know that a lot of that stuff is a little darker, too, and I figured it mightn't go over that well, being in the sun, and the whole festival vibe. But at the same time, I said "Fuck it, I think it'll be cool, and a little different." And unexpected. We tried it, and I think it worked out pretty good.
To be honest, I was pretty worried about your voice when you played 'Elite' on Sunday. I was afraid that you were doing some real damage.
Yeah. I'm used to screaming that thing, though. Luckily enough, my voice has maintained itself pretty well. I think that has a lot to do with, what we were talking about earlier, as far as just taking care of myself a little bit better. I've had less throat issues ever since, so hopefully it stays that way.
Are there any specific tactics you use to care for your vocal cords these days?
Not necessarily. I mean, I don't smoke anymore, which is probably the most important thing. I still don't really warm up. I don't have the warm up ritual that I should do. I do a couple little singalongs to different music; a half-hour before we play, I start singing along with whatever's on my iPod. That warms me up a little bit. I try to sleep well, which I think is very important, because when I sleep well I can always tell that my voice is stronger. And not smoking. That's helped me out.
I read an interview from back in 2006 where you said that you're a big tennis fan. Do you get the chance to play much when you're on tour?
Lately, over the last few months, I...I don't know if I actually have tennis elbow, or whatever, but I've had a sore elbow. It's on my right hand, which is my tennis racket hand [laughs]. And it hurts when I do that, or when I play basketball. So I have to look and see what's up with it. But I do still love playing, and I will still play. It's not like I'm incapable of playing, but I can't get to serious about it because of [the injury]. But it's definitely a fun sport. Especially if you have someone playing along with you, because it's a good rival sport where you can talk a lot of mesh. And when you get a good shot, and you slam a ball on somebody, there's not a better feeling than that!
Are any of your musician friends into tennis?
Yeah. Gavin Rossdale [of Bush], he's a big tennis guy. We've still yet to play, but every time we meet, we talk about playing. A couple of my managers play, and another couple of friends who live close to me. I've got [tennis] courts right by my house, which is great.
I'd like to discuss the video for 'You've Seen The Butcher'. Who came up with the concept?
I did. And that was only because... It wasn't like I wrote the song and had this whole idea of what the video was supposed to be like, or anything like that. It was pretty last minute. We had sent the song out to a bunch of different video directors, and they all sent back treatments that were just complete rubbish. Every one was in, like, a post-apocalyptic world; they were all so away from what the song was. Either that, or they took the song so literally that it was just corny. So at the last minute, I said, "Why don't we just make it a performance video. Take us out of our element, so we're not in a club or something. Put us in maybe a library, or something, so we're all set up in our little area." And then I said: "Why don't we just have all women? No-one wants to see a bunch of dudes." [Laughs] "Wouldn't it be nice if they were all scantily-clad women?" And so we did that, and then I said "Wouldn't it be cool if it just rained blood on everybody?" And that was it! Those four little things. I gave it to a director whose reel I liked, Jodeb, and he wrote out a treatment which was pretty close to what I explained. We went in and did it, and it was one of our cheapest videos, and one of the funnest videos to make. It was cool; the majority of the girls in the video... We just put up on Twitter that we were filming a video here, and that we were looking for girls to come. So they were actually fans of the music, and there wasn't so much acting going on, even though making a video is definitely acting, because you're playing along to the recoded music. But it was fun. I can easily say that it's the funnest video we've made.
Were the menstruation overtones intentional?
The what?
The menstruation overtones. A crowd of women, covered in blood.
Oh. Intentional? No! [Laughs] It was supposed to be more of a gory, sexy thing. I don't think that was on my mind. [Laughs]
I note that a few Deftones videos over the years include you being accosted by hot chicks. Is that intentional?
Probably, yeah. [Laughs] It's safe to say that a lot of music that I listen to, and that we make, is influenced by hot chicks. [Laughs]
On a completely unrelated note. I was looking at photos from the Big Day Out and noticed the demon tattoo on your right bicep. When did you get that done?
Oh, the baphomet? I got that a few months ago in Belgium.
Is there a significance behind it?
I don't know. I mean, I have other religious tattoos as well. I like the art a lot. I'm really into religious art, but I don't feel too strongly about any one religion. I just take it as it looks. It's probably the only tattoo I've got that I really appreciate, and really like. I wanted a baphomet, and I had a guy draw it up the way I wanted it. He did it perfect, so it's like, you know, something fun to look at.
Finally - will there ever be a second Team Sleep album? [An experimental alternative rock group fronted by Chino, who released their debut album in 2005].
I would think, maybe. I can't say for sure when. The reason the record came about was because, at the time, I was living in Sacramento, and [my bandmates] were my buddies who were around at the time. We were just making music, and that's the way it came out. Right now, I'm living in LA, and they live in Sacramento. Everybody's doing different things, so if we get in the same place together, and we have time to do it, I think we all would love to. We have a lot of music that we've been working on over the years, that we can probably put together. It's just about getting the time to do it.
Andrew McMillen
Indeed, good one, thanks !
"It's kinda like I don't wanna be the dude in the red hat"
haha in your face fred durst
different questions for a change, wow
Thanks V, I enjoyed that!
Rad interview. Hopefully that puts the religious influence discussions to rest with the whole baphomet tattoo.
Quote from: pinkmaggit on Feb 03, 2011, 05:29 AM
Quote from: the same sound on Jan 25, 2011, 08:21 PM
Quote from: Penicks on Jan 25, 2011, 10:36 AM
please not diamond eyes II
this also entails no Nick Raskulinecz.
It's started already - all the complaints about Diamond Eyes. When it was released it was perfect in everyones eyes
this is absolutely not true.
Yeah a I think it was 50/50 around here. I loved it but it's certainly not perfect.
Quote from: pinkmaggit on Feb 03, 2011, 05:29 AM
It's started already - all the complaints about Diamond Eyes. When it was released it was perfect in everyones eyes
(http://www.lucyannmoll.com/beautifulwarrior/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/laughing-monkey.jpg)
Cool interview with Abe and his drumtech Sean Bates about his drum setup; in the studio and out on tour.
http://www.musicradar.com/news/drums/deftones-drum-setup-abe-cunninghams-kit-in-pictures-363436 (http://www.musicradar.com/news/drums/deftones-drum-setup-abe-cunninghams-kit-in-pictures-363436)
Now we know how he still has a sick snare sound on tour... marching snares!
Deftones Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpeHz_7-6Nc#ws)
Deftones Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpeHz_7-6Nc#ws)
1:42
When you think that, in 2003, the guy was spitting on Korn, Limp Bizkit, etc, you just know it's not the same guy anymore hahaha.
Chino is a pretty wierd guy IMO. All over the place type of person,lol. Watch Abe at like 1:44ish... wish I could read his mind sometimes. ;D I wish he would have just said what he was thinking.... ::)
Chino needs to embrace the 5 o'clock shadow. he did most of 2010.
i've never heard a bieber song
chino often like to shock when it comes to namedropping but im not reacting anymore. he's been like that throughout the years. bash peers/certain metal bands and praise popstuff. no matter how corny. he thought justin timberlake was awesome too :)
They both come from the same school of hair veneration, it's only natural really. Babe, babe, babe ohhhhh!
Much respect,
-Matt
Quote from: from_musings on Feb 07, 2011, 08:16 AM
chino often like to shock to when it comes to namedropping but im not reacting anymore. he's been like that throughout the years. bash peers/certain metal bands and praise popstuff. no matter how corny. he thought justin timberlake was awesome too :)
I think he just dislikes pretense. Justin Beiber isn't trying to break ground with his music, but he's not pretending to either at least. I kind of agree with Chino here--a lot of metal bands take themselves seriously while making some seriously silly, teen-angst-y music; it's pretty embarrassing, and it often makes me feel squeamish. Justin Beiber is just in it to have fun and make little girls giggle, and that's what he's doing--unpretentious and simple. Grown men who hate on Beiber just because he's a successful kid are insecure in my opinion, just let the little guy do what he's doing, lol. If I could have made that kind of money when I was a kid, I would have in a heartbeat, and so would any other sane human being, haha.
Much respect,
-Matt
Quote from: from_musings on Feb 07, 2011, 08:16 AM
chino often like to shock when it comes to namedropping but im not reacting anymore. he's been like that throughout the years. bash peers/certain metal bands and praise popstuff. no matter how corny. he thought justin timberlake was awesome too :)
they jamed out bringing sexy back when i hung out with them, so he was serious lol
Quote from: Jesus2Chino on Feb 07, 2011, 08:42 AM
you're right. and personally i have nothing against timberlake or bieber, i get more annoyed by hearing say, nickelback.
and chino can listen to beiber how much he wants as long as he doesn't invite him to be on a deftones record as a guest singer or whatever
Quote from: Hidalgo on Feb 07, 2011, 09:46 AM
]they jamed out bringing sexy back when i hung out with them, so he was serious lol
yeah chino even sang "im bringing sexy back all u m-uckas dont know how to act" in the calm part of the song around the fur live once. it was pretty neat ^^
I knew he liked pop... but I thought he had a better taste than this.. poop bieber.
Quote from: Rxx on Feb 07, 2011, 12:07 PM
I knew he liked pop... but I thought he had a better taste than this.. poop bieber.
maybe being a snob about music is something that you grow out of with time
it most definitely is
Idiot Abroad--love it Crazylegs, haha.
Much respect,
-Matt
deftones has arrived in jakarta!! http://plixi.com/p/75492407 (http://plixi.com/p/75492407) cant wait for tomorrow!!
Quote from: from_musings on Feb 07, 2011, 02:19 PM
Quote from: Rxx on Feb 07, 2011, 12:07 PM
I knew he liked pop... but I thought he had a better taste than this.. poop bieber.
maybe being a snob about music is something that you grow out of with time
i still haven't grown out of it. i still pitch fits like mike patton did about wolfmother when shit music comes on. that's why i thought it was hilarious first time i saw it, cause he was being a baby about it like i've been the past 11 years or more. it would be nice to grow out of it but i think dogshit like nickelback that outsells all other great bands for 7 years and counting will always really annoy me badly. 7 straight years nickelback has murdered other rock bands sales. that is one seriously twisted ass sick joke. twilight zone times a trillion
actually i been whing about crap music since ace of base had those 2 hit singles in 95 or 96, i'm sure i whined a bit before then though. also that "i'm not sick but i'm not wellllllllllll" song had me pitchin little fits, and "sleepin with my clothes on! came in through the window!!!!!!", and blink182 etc. yea started in 96 ish with serious patton whining. mostly before that i'd just not let it bother me too much if i though something sucked . nickelback definitely puts me over the edge the worst
There is nothing wrong about being a snob about music, I like music with substance... not music that smells like fast food.
NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Eh, snobery should only be taken to a certain level though. It's not any single artist that we listen to that paints a picture of who we are, it's the amalgamation of all of our music. I'm a foodie, but I still enjoy a Chalupa from time to time; you shouldn't judge people at all really, but especially not based on indulgences--why make someone feel stupid for having a little fun with something shallow?
Much respect,
-Matt
Quote from: Vesanic on Feb 07, 2011, 07:16 AM
When you think that, in 2003, the guy was spitting on Korn, Limp Bizkit, etc, you just know it's not the same guy anymore hahaha.
Justin Bieber>Korn and Limp Bizkit
meh. i don't find anything morally objectionable about bieber. it has no substance and it's essentially harmless sugar pop for kids. there's much worse stuff out there. don't get me wrong, it is rather terrible but i don't see why that kid gets so much hate. i know he's just a manufactured little puppet with the most punchable face on the planet but pre-teen girls like some terrible shit so just let them have it. i don't think chino sits around listening to bieber but he probably doesn't despise the kid either. i just don't listen to it. i can only do what's right for me. no point in making a big stink about it.
seriously i read the comments first then watched the video .. no offence but you guys need to chill , all he said was he doesnt get mad at it when it comes on :P ... like when am driving and it comes on the radio i may or may not change the channel but if am in a good mood i can have fun with it too ... doesnt mean am a fan or listen to it everyday ... its just insignificant i guess ...
anyway am saying that ,am saying nothing
peace
The Deftones - Sergio Vega (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt0XD2miZwQ#ws)
The Deftones - Abe Cunnigham (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHAE-tpH44Y#ws)
The Deftones - Phil Wilkey (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US0LazLTiuA#ws)
Quote from: sing blue silver on Feb 08, 2011, 01:33 AM
meh. i don't find anything morally objectionable about bieber. it has no substance and it's essentially harmless sugar pop for kids. there's much worse stuff out there. don't get me wrong, it is rather terrible but i don't see why that kid gets so much hate. i know he's just a manufactured little puppet with the most punchable face on the planet but pre-teen girls like some terrible shit so just let them have it. i don't think chino sits around listening to bieber but he probably doesn't despise the kid either. i just don't listen to it. i can only do what's right for me. no point in making a big stink about it.
i like this post. wish i wrote it :)
Quote from: Balthazard on Feb 08, 2011, 04:45 AM
seriously i read the comments first then watched the video .. no offence but you guys need to chill , all he said was he doesnt get mad at it when it comes on :P ... like when am driving and it comes on the radio i may or may not change the channel but if am in a good mood i can have fun with it too ... doesnt mean am a fan or listen to it everyday ... its just insignificant i guess ...
anyway am saying that ,am saying nothing
peace
i was just about to say that. i'm pretty sure i've danced to kesha at a party or something and i don't mind when katy perry comes on. plus i think the interviewer was trying to get them to say something lame about bieber. it would have been a negative thing if they had. they handled it well. hell, chino even made it cool to maybe not like the little bugger.
i will say that i can't stand bieber fans. i can't even abuse them because they're all young impressionable girls.
He just melted a lot of hearts, didn't he?
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Feb 08, 2011, 04:00 PM
He just melted a lot of hearts, didn't he?
Chino, that is. Probably influenced most of the opinions here, anyways. I got Bieber Fever now too.
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Feb 08, 2011, 04:14 PM
I got Bieber Fever now too.
yes all this turned my world upside down, im totally getting the biever haircut tomrrow
just downloaded his discography. :D
Quote from: downtownpony on Feb 08, 2011, 06:35 PM
just downloaded his discography. :D
Lol step away son I've already bought his used tissues on eBay.
the Deftones just finished their show in Jakarta!
here are their setlist from the show tonight (this photo belong to @antonkurniawan)
http://twitpic.com/3xqkc3 (http://twitpic.com/3xqkc3)
this show is fucking awesome! its their first time in Jakarta but it seems they're really love the atmosphere in Jakarta
pics coming soon
{UPDATE}
pics taken by Adia Prabowo
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/168675_10150134972416125_600391124_8366668_5643819_n.jpg)
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/167869_10150134978961125_600391124_8366726_6280446_n.jpg)
HERE'S THE VIDEO FROM THE SHOW LAST NIGHT IN JAKARTA
ENCORE ROOT + 7 WORDS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiJmHgFrt24&feature=player_embedded# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiJmHgFrt24&feature=player_embedded#)
Quote from: Vesanic on Feb 08, 2011, 06:52 PM
Quote from: downtownpony on Feb 08, 2011, 06:35 PM
just downloaded his discography. :D
Lol step away son I've already bought his used tissues on eBay.
Oh so your the bastard that outbid me! That's ok I got his soiled underware. He still wets the bed on the regular.
Quote from: pony_01 on Feb 08, 2011, 07:19 PM
the Deftones just finished their show in Jakarta!
here are their setlist from the show tonight (this photo belong to @antonkurniawan)
http://twitpic.com/3xqkc3 (http://twitpic.com/3xqkc3)
this show is fucking awesome! its their first time in Jakarta but it seems they're really love the atmosphere in Jakarta
pics coming soon
Whoa, they played KimDracula? :O
Quote from: Shadow46/2 on Feb 09, 2011, 02:07 AM
Quote from: pony_01 on Feb 08, 2011, 07:19 PM
the Deftones just finished their show in Jakarta!
here are their setlist from the show tonight (this photo belong to @antonkurniawan)
http://twitpic.com/3xqkc3 (http://twitpic.com/3xqkc3)
this show is fucking awesome! its their first time in Jakarta but it seems they're really love the atmosphere in Jakarta
pics coming soon
Whoa, they played KimDracula? :O
yeah! and bloody cape too! and royal too! damn last night was crazy
Quote from: Shadow46/2 on Feb 09, 2011, 02:07 AM
Whoa, they played KimDracula? :O
Do you guys sometimes check the live guide out ? Damn.
[Dahsyat] Liputan konser & wawancara bersama Deftones.. 09/02/2011. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rduRVemiMtQ#)
Is it me does it feel like they have gotten bigger since the release of diamond eyes ?
and as a side note i love the sad music they put on while talking about chi , very subtle ... :P
get better chi :)
it does seem like they've gotten more popular. the album seemed to revive their career. most casual fans were damn near done after s/t and snw, but most of them love DE, so they're back, plus it's got them quite a few new fans it seems. the most radio play since wp. chino losing weight probably didn't hurt either. they done right
Quote from: Hidalgo on Feb 10, 2011, 12:53 AM
it does seem like they've gotten more popular. the album seemed to revive their career. most casual fans were damn near done after s/t and snw, but most of them love DE, so they're back, plus it's got them quite a few new fans it seems. the most radio play since wp. chino losing weight probably didn't hurt either. they done right
this
Quote from: Balthazard on Feb 10, 2011, 12:05 AM
and as a side note i love the sad music they put on while talking about chi , very subtle ... :P
and this
Deftones at the 2011 Big Day Out Interview with Hit List TV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFKOchn2js8#ws)
Abe Cunningham Interview - Talkin' Gear With The Deftones Drummer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc4Est9qzKk#ws)
DunlopTV From The Vaults - Chi Cheng of the Deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1JHGI-PEGA#ws)
hey guys, someone have the scans of the atf cd, the photo of the pool table, with the "in my own summer the shade is a tool"?
please!
thanks!!
Not to seem negative at all, but BUY IT!!! :)
haha i got full discography, but i dont have scanner LOL
there's a nice little new live clip of Needles & Pins in that Abe drumming video
guys, someone have this picture, in a better quality? please!
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1737/pict0002zv.jpg) (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/pict0002zv.jpg/)
Frank and Sergio Interview.
kdge.com EF 20 Deftones Interview pt 1 (http://youtube.com/watch?gl=US&client=mv-google&hl=en&v=XW0_0xe-9j8#ws)
very old skool and no bieber involved:
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l7js6ltZaP1qcd9abo1_500.jpg)
We The Thousands meet the Deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4iI1fVn9AI#ws)
Stefan cut his hair?
Quote from: iceache on Feb 19, 2011, 11:02 PM
Stefan cut his hair?
nah, he probably just stuffed it under his cap...
i found this pic very funny :D
(http://images.warnerbrosrecords.com/drupal6x/cores/latest/sites/deftones/files/photos/163647_10150329347230244_500620243_16139189_2820688_n.jpg)
Gotta love Chino's face in the background haha.
i smell photobomb
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1902560528?bckey=AQ~~,AAAAAF4QYgI~,M7BzSsExP5lNHCcKkiqM4-eFeEKcqq0c&bctid=684539297001 (http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1902560528?bckey=AQ~~,AAAAAF4QYgI~,M7BzSsExP5lNHCcKkiqM4-eFeEKcqq0c&bctid=684539297001)
the chi cheng prayer page just posted it. i'd never seen it before.
Chino and Abe interview
http://bcove.me/pskcq7j2 (http://bcove.me/pskcq7j2)
here's a couple.
Deftones Interview.avi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY88DkShtlk#)
Deftones in Malaysia (interview with hot magazine) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_KmPQWrgsU#)
Chino, you ain't Cuomo Rivers.
Here's the transcript of the full interview
It was a low-key backstage, dressing-room interview with Chino Moreno (Lead Vocalist) and Frank Delgado (Samples/Keys) of the Deftones; but no less enthusiastic on our part. This was hot's Valentine's Day date, it can't possibly get better than this. We plopped down unto the vertically-challenged couches in the middle of the room full of crew members scurrying in and out, attempting to make sure all's well for the show that was to happen later that evening.
The American alternative metal band from Sacramento are sort of legendary (in their own right); having been around since 1988. We salute them for staying this long in a very fickle-minded entertainment industry and proving that they have a boundary-crossing appeal. They have, after all, sold over three million tickets and four million albums to date. The band, consisting of Chino Moreno, Abe Cunningham (drums), Stephen Carpenter (strings), Chi Cheng (bass), have six studio albums; two of which are certified Platinum. Their current album Diamond Eyes, which was released in May of 2010, was named the iTunes Rock Album of the Year. Now, let's meet the people behind the music...
How do you feel being here in Malaysia?
Just coming to this part of Asia is incredible, we always talked about coming and we finally made it. We're so surprised that we have so many fans here and we're enjoying every minute of it.
What would you be doing if you we're not playing for us on Valentine's Day?
Chino: If I was at home, I'd probably be asleep right now because it's the middle of the night. But when I woke up, I'd probably spend the day with my family and my dog. Then eat a nice dinner.
Frank: Family day [smiles and nods].
How do you prep for the show, with so much screaming? Does it ever get sore?
Sometimes, but luckily not recently. I've been pretty OK. I should warm up, maybe more. I usually have a glass of wine, scream a little bit and then go out there. I've gotten used to it over the years. Luckily, hopefully, cross my fingers...it's been ok.
What do you do for fun while you're on tour?
Chino: Everybody does different things. Some of us play golf, some of us work out.
Frank: It's good to see the city when you have the time. Find some good food, check out the night life. It all varies, depending on where.
Chino: A good beer.
Let's talk music...what was the inspiration behind Diamond Eyes?
A lot of things... we usually take life in general as an inspiration: friendships, our love for music, nothing in particular really. There are a lot of moods/modes that we go through in everyday life and we put those into our artistic endeavours.
Tell us about your vids 'Sex tapes', 'Rocket Skates' and 'You've Seen the Butcher'...
They are all done by different directors. The idea usually comes from the director but we came up with the concept for 'You've Seen the Butcher'. It was really simple, we wanted to make a performance video but not the typical type, so we decided to get a bunch of girls, dress them [sort of] scantily and pour blood on everybody. It was one of the "funnest" video we've made.
So, What's 'You've Seen The Butcher' really about?
None of our songs are really particularly about anything other than conveying a mood or a feeling. The visuals reflect the seductiveness of the song itself and the aggression of it. Our music has a fine balance of aggression and sensuality. Those two are quite separate on the emotional scale but we seem to make them work.
What other bands would you like to collaborate with?
On the top of my head, I'd like to tour with System of the Down. That would be a fun tour as I've never played with them before. I think that'd be a good tour. We're fans of music, we like all kinds of stuff. It could be anything, PJ Harvey... [we interjected with-- Justin Bieber?] Yeah, Justin Bieber!
What's the truth behind the formation of this band?
The story is not that crazy. We were kids that grew up in the same neighbourhood...we skateboarded and hung out together. Stephen's house was a communal place where everyone kind of went and hung out. There was a bunch of equipment and we would try to learn how to play. That was pretty much it.
What is the relationship between the members? Do you get into fights?
Yeah, sometimes. Not violent fights or anything like that. We get in little tiffs, nothing that crazy.
Do you pull pranks on each other?
Not so much pranks. We talk a lot of junk [laughs]; we make fun of each other a lot, which is good.
What is the best show you've ever played?
It's a hard question because we've played a lot of great shows. One of the most memorable ones was Rock in Rio in 2000 (a long time ago). It's probably the biggest show we've played too-over 200 thousand people. We flew in on a helicopter, over the crowd. It was pretty awesome.
Chino, you're of Chinese and Spanish descent. Do you have Chinese influences or speak any Chinese?
Not at all. The Chinese in my family is very small. My grandfather is half Chinese, he didn't speak Chinese either. His father did. But he died when I was a little baby, so I did not get to hang out with him too much to be influenced by him.
What is the biggest risk you have taken in your life, since one song from your album is 'Risk'...
Chino: The word Risk actually comes from the board game. We used to play that game a lot, a lot, when we were writing the last record. That song is actually an ode to Chi. He probably loved that game more than all of us. He was so into it; that was where the name came from.
I think we take risks everyday in our lives...travelling and doing other things. Anything can happen, anytime.
Frank: The Diamond Eyes record on a whole was a risk or a chance we took on ourselves, after the accident. We had no clue what to do or how to approach it so we kind of went with our gut.
Chino: We went into writing a whole new record after working for a year on another record, not really having the money to do it or anything,[find a new member]. We had to take a chance. We thought positive and made it work.
What is your biggest achievement?
The longevity of our band. The fact that in 1988 we were little kids, making music...
What gives you the edge over the other bands, in terms of staying power?
I don't really know. All I can say is that we're not like a group that was put together for any other reason than the fact that we enjoy each other's company. Aside from music, we're actually friends making music together. There are lots of other bands that don't really hang out. We have camaraderie. So, that helps.
Arcade Fire won a Grammy for album of the year. What do you guys think of them?
Chino: Never heard of 'em.
Frank: [Shakes head]
Do you think that Justin Bieber was robbed from winning New Artists of the Year?
Chino: I wouldn't say he was robbed. The people that he was up against were probably talented too. But he is a talented kid and has plenty of time to win plenty of things. He'll be fine.
Enlighten us about your very different, image-heavy lyrics and the writing process...
Chino: I don't go in there with a game plan of how to be different. A lot of times, I'm more interested in writing the melody and rhythm and after I get comfortable with that, I start putting words to that. I write it all down, kind of not thinking about it. Then I look back at it and it makes sense to me.
A lot of it is imagery. I don't tell too many stories. I'm not into politics; I don't have anything to say about how people should think. I don't think of myself as a lyricist; I write the lyrics but I am not a guy that sits around writing poetry and then say, 'I want to write a song about this or that'. It just sort of happens. I'm lucky that it works.
What are you up to next?
After we leave here, we will tour some more. Tour The States and then maybe take some time off and start writing music.
Quote from: Vesanic on Feb 25, 2011, 05:57 PM
Chino, you ain't Cuomo Rivers.
haha - Chino got into the Hipster movement I guess. No wonder Diamond Eyes is doing so well!
Never heard of Arcade Fire? Surprising..
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=154470 (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=154470)
Interview with Chino and Sergio about the Bangkok riot, Chi, and other stuff.
Cool! Thanx inkblades
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/defsteve/deftones/BDO1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/defsteve/deftones/BDO2.jpg)
Gotta Love Rammstein !!!!!!!!!!!
Chino Too.... ::)
is it me or chino's gaining weight again?
Defo which is surprising given how many hot venues and long sets they've been doing. Guess it's hard to keep up a diet when your on the road stopping at fast food outlets
Eww. Iggy Pop should keep his shirt on.. lol
Tell me about it.
Don't know if this was posted. The audio interview can be played on the page.
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=150195 (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=150195)
Norway's Metal Express Radio recently conducted an interview with DEFTONES turntablist/keyboardist Frank Delgado. You can now listen to the chat using the audio player below.
DEFTONES' new video, "You've Seen The Butcher", can be viewed below. The clip was filmed on September 19 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada and was directed by Jodeb (DESPISED ICON).
"You've Seen The Butcher" comes off DEFTONES' new album, "Diamond Eyes", which sold 62,000 copies in the United States in its first week of release to debut at position No. 6 on The Billboard 200 chart.
DEFTONES' previous album, "Saturday Night Wrist", opened with 76,000 units back in November 2006 to land at position No. 10 on The Billboard 200 chart.
"Diamond Eyes" was released on May 4 via Warner.
The iTunes deluxe edition of "Diamond Eyes" contains three exclusive cover versions:
* Do You Believe (THE CARDIGANS cover)
* Ghosts (JAPAN cover)
* Caress (DRIVE LIKE JEHU cover)
"Diamond Eyes" is DEFTONES' first album first since bassist Chi Cheng's life-altering car accident, which has left him in a comatose state.
Hey, can anyone direct me to any good interviews that talk about actual musicianship i.e. playing and/or writing???
For example, i don't think i've ever heard an interview with Chi where he discusses how he approaches writing basslines, or about how he plays, OR an interview maybe with Abe discussing how he approaches writing his drum patterns or other details, and i would really like to read/hear that. If ANYBODY knows of ANY interviews with ANY or ALL of the bandmembers talking about this stuff, PLEASE PLEASE let me know? :)
Also, basically any interview where they actually talk about writing a song.
Hope to hear a response, thanx in advance.
Vesanic? Anyone?
Quote from: Inkblades on Feb 26, 2011, 07:06 AM
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=154470 (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=154470)
Interview with Chino and Sergio about the Bangkok riot, Chi, and other stuff.
2nd video.. 3.33 Chino struggles to keep the tears away..
http://theindiespiritualist.com/2011/03/17/this-place-is-death-an-interview-with-chino-moreno-of-the-deftones/ (http://theindiespiritualist.com/2011/03/17/this-place-is-death-an-interview-with-chino-moreno-of-the-deftones/)
Deftones are going back in the studio in the summer. I wish one of these interviewers would ask him about Crosses. They probably don't because none of them have heard of it.
what is crosses , a band with steph , chino and shaun lopez?
Quote from: Balthazard on Mar 20, 2011, 04:17 PM
what is crosses , a band with steph , chino and shaun lopez?
No Steph. Just Chino and Shaun Lopez. Check this thread:
http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16263.0.html (http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16263.0.html)
let them...record. i hope that summer story is true...
Quote from: White Wrist on Mar 20, 2011, 08:43 PM
let them...record. i hope that summer story is true...
yeah man
http://www.si.clarin.com/cuento-chino-nuevo-metal_0_450554953.html (http://www.si.clarin.com/cuento-chino-nuevo-metal_0_450554953.html)
Little Argentinian interview of Chino, in Spanish. Nothing really worth the read, from what I've been able to understand.
Nice little interview of Abe, about their upcoming show in Oklahoma
http://swoknews.com/main.asp?SectionID=6&SubSectionID=83&ArticleID=33633 (http://swoknews.com/main.asp?SectionID=6&SubSectionID=83&ArticleID=33633)
Deftones to have return performance at city's hot spot
SCOTT RAINS
"Diamond Eyes" return to Oklahoma City's Diamond Ballroom when the Deftones hit the capitol's hot spot for a second swing through the state in support of its sixth studio album.
Deftones' drummer Abe Cunningham spoke with The Constitution last week about a range of subjects, from offering the latest news about founding member, Chi Cheng, to sending a hello-via-reporter to Mastodon drummer and friend, Brann Daillor, interviewed a few days later.
Cunningham has fond memories from the band's May 2010 stop at the Diamond Ballroom, considered a high-point to the early leg of last year's tour, he said.
"It was a good night all around," Cunningham said. "I remember last time we were there and somebody pulled up lawn chairs under some trees out back and we had some beers and barbecued."
"I have a lot of fond memories of the Diamond," he said.
The intimate venue sold out for last year's concert. Cunningham said he's happy to return and said performing in the smaller venue offers the band a uniquely close connection with its fans.
"That's what it's all about. We came from the smallest clubs and have been really lucky over the years and had the chance to play all sorts of places," Cunningham said. "Returning to the smaller places really makes you remember what you're there for, where you come from."
The drummer promises a different set list from last year and hints that a lot of the early Deftones songs will be performed with an intensity to match that of their tour openers and friends, Dillinger Escape Plan.
"Those guys ... throw down," Cunningham said. "They're incredibly technical with a lot of energy; it's going to be a great show."
Since its release in early 2010, "Diamond Eyes" has garnered critical lauds and the band has been on the road almost non-stop. Cunningham and the band were on a short break last week before returning to the road. The 38-year-old drummer said the relentless performances have yielded a well-oiled machine created by him, guitarist Stephen Carpenter, singer/guitarist, Chino Moreno, bassist Sergio Vega, and DJ/keyboardist Frank Delgado.
"Actually right now, I was kinda bummed to stop," Cunningham said. "We'd been hitting this really good groove; each night was phenomenal It's what we do."
The last year saw the Sacramento, Calif.-based Deftones take their show on the road and across the world. Cunningham said there were exciting experiences while playing in the Pacific Rim. He said there is nothing like performing at some of the larger European music festivals where hundreds of thousands of people form a sea of flesh before the stage.
In late 2010, Deftones teamed up for a one-month tour with labelmates, Mastodon, and Alice in Chains, Virgin/EMI, called the "BlackDiamondSkye" tour a named amalgam of the three bands' latest albums. Cunningham said it was a real blast touring with such disparate and powerful bands and that all three groups are close friends.
Pretty nice interview of Sergio, regarding their upcoming show at the Chilean Lollapalooza festival. He also discusses what they play live, how he feels in the band, etc.
http://www.emol.com/especiales/2011/cultura-espectaculos/lollapalooza/detallenoticias.asp?idnoticia=472707 (http://www.emol.com/especiales/2011/cultura-espectaculos/lollapalooza/detallenoticias.asp?idnoticia=472707)
It's in Spanish, here's a quick translation done by a friend. Needless to say it's not the best one, but you get the global idea of everything:
DEFTONES & LOLLAPALOOZA: "WHOEVER GOES WILL SEE HOW MUCH WE LIKE TO PLAY"
Sergio Vega, actual bassist of the band, plays with the mystery at the time to speak of the third show of the band in Chile and tells what had mean for him to replace Chi Cheng.
"Everything is completely secret, everything. Our e-mails are encrypted, when we speak on the phone, we do it by codes and we don't even mention the name of the songs." assure us from California Sergio Vega, who prepare to perform on his first time in Chile with Deftones though the band count with two more shows in this land.
The musician, who came to the band after the bassist Chi Cheng had an accident which initially left him in a coma, talks to us about the show they'll do in Lollapalooza.
Nevertheless, that's exactly what he does not. Doesn't matter how much we insist on the subject. While he's laughing he tells us that even CIA trained them to keep the secret with them. Still that way he promises us: "The fact that be @ Chile and that is the first international Lollapalooza, will make a real entertain show"
Are you sure you can't say nothing about the show ?
When we did rehearsal, we made the biggest arsenal of songs, to play the most possible, is a thing of the moment. Honestly, this is ALL I can say-
But you can tell us about what they (Deftones) had said of the visits to Chile...
They only had said good things, that they had good times at Chile and that I'll love it. They're really excited to go play on Lollapalooza, say the crowd is really intense and they're really into the music. Is really nice for us to a country in where they speak Spanish, because we all have Latin ancestor. Plus, we're having a great time playing.
Vega came to the band just to support them live, but he finished recording the album Diamond Eyes. "We're friends, so I came to help them to continue with the band, but ¡we're talking about Chi! We can't let that his work wither. Play and enjoy is the best thing we can do with this whole situation, we never lose that of our sight. Diamond Eyes was made really fast and we were so happy. Then we rehearsal it a lot and we were even more excited. Then the people started to like the album and that means a lot. "
But, you wanted to add something new or were you trying to mix yourself with the band and what they were doing with Chi ?
Luckily, we have a history very similar about the music we like and make. All was happening in phases, we were friends and I already replaced Chi live before, and they (Deftones) are really wide open.
You have said this never was 'Sergio v/s Chi' but 'Sergio and Chi'.
They were clear with that and that helped me to feel comfortable.
Did happen the same with the fans ?
I think there was a lot of people who didn't know my history, but then they understood that I miss Chi too, that I already replaced him, so I got a history with Deftones.
The Chi's situation had been established like a comparison with Cerati's case, Cerati is a musician from Argentina whom had been in coma since 2010.
The truth is that what happened to Chi we haven't see it like a bigger subject. We don't try to connect it to what happened to another people. We just see it as a tragedy of the which the people has to understand they must be carefully while they're driving and use the safety-belt.
Chi is now on a semiconscious state, right ?
Yeah, that means he pass through the stages of the dream but he doesn't give any response, so we don't know how is this experience for him. To know about him, the web-site One Love For Chi is the best place, because his family manages it and they notice us how the healings go. But the process is really slow. He could wake up tomorrow or in many years, we really don't know.
The Sixth Deftones
Vega's situation in Deftones is particular; Although in rigor he form part of the band, Vega hadn't leave his role of replace bassist Chi Cheng, who they (Deftones) prefer consider is absent.
Vega does know, but not for that he alien or strange. "They're so cool that they care that I never feel uncomfortable about the way I came in to the band, they had make me feel the sixth of the band. The one that they are so opened by others after going so much time together, and to have obtained success with what they do, I surprise very much, because it means that they are ready to mix ideas and to yield. It is not anything what you find all the time."
Do you believe that the way in which Deftones plays live has changed since you came?
Not much. The band continues being energetic. I'm having a great time and the last thing that I want to do is to compare. I am happy of that it sounds well and that the people like, but I believe that there are no changes. We listen to the albums and I believe that there is scarcely a couple of things that have been altered.
Do you think that there are differences between the first time that you played with them and now?
it is not drastic at all, but I think that there is a development, specially now that we take a lot of time playing Diamond Eyes. I believe that those who go to the show will see how much we like to play and the desires that we have of being there. That's the most important of the experience of a concert. Doesn't matter the lights or the lasers for me. I think they are cool, but if you have them and the band is not interested in playing ... I prefer that it is upside-down.
Interview of Sergio, from yesterday:
http://consequenceofsound.net/2011/03/interview-sergio-vega-of-the-deftones/ (http://consequenceofsound.net/2011/03/interview-sergio-vega-of-the-deftones/)
Interview: Sergio Vega (of the Deftones)
By Karina Halle on March 31st, 2011 in CoS Exclusive Features, Hot, Interview
Being in a band is a bit like running your own business and being in a polygamous relationship all at the same time. Not only do you have to weather economic ups and downs, shifts in popular trends, and advances in technology, but you also have to do so while maintaining a relationship with several people, keeping everyone happy, involved, and on the level. It's little wonder that few bands make it through a couple of records without fizzling out or imploding.
For those reasons alone, it is remarkable that a band like the Deftones have not only been able to navigate the ordinarily treacherous waters of the music industry–rising from "Nu Metal" beginnings and creating their own recognizable sound–but have done so while handling personal setbacks and tragedy. For awhile there, lead singer Chino Moreno dealt with drug problems, then bassist Chi Cheng was involved in a car accident that left him in a coma that he still hasn't recovered from. Despite the challenges, the Deftones plowed forward, and their sixth album, last year's Diamond Eyes, received acclaim from both fans and critics last year.
Consequence of Sound had the opportunity to chat with Deftones bassist Sergio Vega, catching him on a rare break between returning from a slew of shows in southeast Asia and heading off to play Lollapalooza Chile.
One of the testaments to the band's staying power is their adaption to new technology. In Vega's case, he is a firm believer of staying connected to the fans in a very "hang out" level, as evidenced by his presence on Twitter and on Facebook.
"For me, I do it because it's like a natural progression from when I was in the hardcore scene," he notes, "and I like that side, going downtown and seeing a bunch of people outside of a park or in front of the venue, and it's kind of like a meeting place for a certain, specific aesthetic. And now what's cool about today is that you don't need to have that physical proximity. People who like similar things can reach out and especially for smaller worlds and sensibilities. I like to have that exchange, and you know, I respond to people, so as long as it's more like hanging out and not 'Oh, what bass strings do you use?'"
The band recently played in Jakarta, Indonesia, an event that was brought together by the fans themselves on various social media networks.
"They had been campaigning for about a year online to get us there. They were all up on our Facebook and Twitter: 'Come to Indonesia'. At first we were like, 'Yeah, OK,' but once it became an actual viable thing that we got to go, then it was amazing. But we had a little bit of insight into how excited people were about it because of social networking and stuff, which really is cool."
They are still winning over new fans, too. The successful Black Diamond Skye tour with Alice in Chains and Mastodon took the Deftones all over the country like a mini-metal festival, giving them the opportunity to not only be heard by people who may not have listened to the band before (or caught their dynamic live show) but also a chance to be with bands who share a similar approach to music.
Vega says, "What was cool about being on a tour like that was just that you feel you're with down-to-earth people, and what I liked about the bill was that it was three bands who were rock bands, but they each had their own specific take, and each band marches to the beat of their own drum. They aren't so concerned about checking out what's going on with the rest of the world and that their cuts are right in time. It was nice to see that, to see three bands doing that on that level in the way that's about creating and connecting with people, just because they enjoy the art. And to me, that type of tour speaks to the thing that I find most important: I don't think the type of music you make is specifically what matters; it's what you do and why you do things. What I thought was cool about that tour was that the principle just came across. All these bands were just kind of mellow and cool. Anybody at any of those venues had a really good chance at just seeing any of these people floating around and hanging out, and I think that that came across, as opposed to certain bills that are based on musical factors (these bands sound really good together)...I'd rather it be based on people's personalities and people's approach to their exchanges with the world."
Their next touring partner is Dillinger Escape Plan, another band known for their insane live shows and ridiculous amount of energy. Having personally caught the Deftones live in 1996 and 2010, I had to ask Vega how the band has been able to keep their shows so enthusiastic and unpredictable.
"I guess it's just a genuine excitement, really. It's not about putting on a show. It's just a natural reaction. We are just, like, 'happy.' Not like with everything in life, but we are so appreciative of the things that have happened for us, and we're grateful to be doing this, and it's also the best thing to be doing in terms of honoring Chi and everything. You know people go out of their way to check you out and see you play and are excited to see us. We don't take it for granted. You put on things, people get psyched, and then you get psyched. It's what reminds me of why I got into music to begin with."
The frantic stage dynamics of Moreno also tend to bring out the phenomenon of his pants slowly slipping down during the set.
Vega laughs at that. "We've both had our bums come out on occasion."
The band wanted to make a "sick-ass record" with Diamond Eyes, and they more than succeeded. It landed on "Best of 2010" lists (including CoS's) and debuted at #6 on the Billboard Charts. For Vega, the reception was a nice surprise, but what really meant something was how the album was able to strike a chord with people, the same chord and intent the band had while making it.
"[Making the album] we all had that attitude of 'we're here, we're going to be present, we're very fortunate to have our health and to be able to play, and there's people that dig us,' and all of these factors brought us into making that record with just this glow. And when we put out the record and people started using the same terminology that we were using while making it, we thought 'wow.' I mean, for me, speaking personally, this is the first time I've been part of something where people are describing it with the same terms that we are using, and we were able to get it all across, that same kind of energy and that same kind of excitement and level of intensity and buoyancy...most people gravitate towards the band's first things. But to have that kind of cool energy with the sixth album and really seventh because you know there is Eros, and it was just a special thing that is not lost on us."
Photo by 13th Witness
Eros is, of course, the album that was going to be released in 2008 but was shelved indefinitely out of respect for Cheng. (His accident happened before it was to be released.) Fans wonder if the album will ever see the light of day, but Vega tells me it's just a matter of timing.
"It's waiting for the right moment," he says. "I think right now it's unfairly attached to the incident with Chi. It's just circumstantial. It's not about that. I think that when there is a time where it can be seen as a piece for itself, then it will make more sense to put it out. And even better yet, if there's a chance that Chi could somehow be a part of it in some capacity at all, that would just be 100 times better."
In the meantime, support for Cheng comes in through the website www.oneloveforchi.com (http://www.oneloveforchi.com) (which was started by a fan to keep people updated on his condition) and recently through guitarist Stephen Carpenter's Sol Invicto project, which has released official remixes of "Diamond Eyes" and "You've Seen the Butcher", with all proceeds going to Cheng.
"It's kind of cool in all consideration and in all purposes, because he's still in the band," says Vega. "I mean, he's still alive, he's just...out. And we never internally refer to him as not being in the band. It was really cool when we were making Diamond Eyes that Chi would keep coming up and stuff. His presence was so much a part of the record. We'd be hanging out, and they'd be talking about their life, and it would always be like, 'Oh, Chi did this, and then we all did this' and always in the coolest way. It speaks of their character that they were able to handle that while embracing me, while talking about Chi, making a new record and doing all these things in a really cool way."
Though the band is still busy touring on behalf of Diamond Eyes, they are also releasing a vinyl album aptly entitled Covers for Record Store Day. (Vega's favorite cover is their take on Japan's "Ghosts".) And hopefully, somewhere along the line, they'll start working on a new album. Though they don't really write on the road, the creative wheels are always turning.
"What we've been doing is almost like leading up to writing," says Vega. "Sometimes when we are soundchecking we'll start fooling around as opposed to playing songs. It's kind of like that. It's starting to creep in where a couple of times we've all come together and jammed on something. But it hasn't been on that level where we have to remember it. I think when Diamond Eyes came together it was all that stuff that was written in the moment, of the moment. We share each other's ideas all the time, like a few of us have mobile studios, so we do email each other ideas."
Finally, I have to ask Vega what he thinks is the secret to the Deftones' longevity and constant presence in the music scene.
"I feel like certain bands, after a while, kind of start reflecting on themselves too much where they're just like, 'Oh, we're great and here it is,' and after they lose their sense of it," Vega starts. "They start calculating how much they have to make to catch up, and then they start doing drastic sound changes that don't seem like it's coming from the heart. What I like about this group is that every day they are finding new music and buying records, and they're still just fans of music and new experiences. And this is constantly washing through them. They have this need for excitement, and it's kind of like they all, and myself included, share this quality of just wanting a feel of something fresh and something cool and new. We have these huge appetites for bands and checking them out and running around and turning that into input. We haven't cut ourselves off and made a wall around our aesthetic. We wake up. We have fun. I really like chasing that feeling. If it feels good, then you don't need to think about it."
Quote from: Vesanic
So I'm in the staff of the Chilean Deftones fans community and they just got the OK to interview them before their set at the Lollapalooza festival on April 2nd. They want me to come up with a couple of questions. I can do it but if some of you guys want to ask a specific question, here's your chance.
I'll let you know when the interview is done.
so.. how did it go?
Patience. ;)
ESP Guitars: Stephen Carpenter (Deftones) Interview 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZdwWQZpmGM#ws)
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 12, 2011, 11:44 AM
ESP Guitars: Stephen Carpenter (Deftones) Interview 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZdwWQZpmGM#ws)
He's not going back. lol And it sounds (again) like Chi's tragedy has reall y inspired this band to appreciate the good times and have fun while they can. Good to hear that from Stephen who is usually pretty sarcastic about everything. Made my day.
Interview of Chino and Sen Dog from Cypress Hill for Rock&Pop, Argentinian radio. A couple of days ago.
Entrevista de Deftones y Cypres Hill_Parte 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXfVF3_lWsI#)
Entrevista de Deftones y Cypres Hill_Parte 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agCMtT9yF2o#)
Quote from: Adrenaline951 on Apr 12, 2011, 09:50 PMUpdates???
Nope
Nice long interview of Abe about Chi, the upcoming tour, the next plans, " Covers " vinyl, etc.
http://www.guerrillacandy.com/2011/04/12/listen-an-interview-with-deftones-abe-cunningham/ (http://www.guerrillacandy.com/2011/04/12/listen-an-interview-with-deftones-abe-cunningham/)
Quote from: Vesanic
So I'm in the staff of the Chilean Deftones fans community and they just got the OK to interview them before their set at the Lollapalooza festival on April 2nd. They want me to come up with a couple of questions. I can do it but if some of you guys want to ask a specific question, here's your chance.
I'll let you know when the interview is done.
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 13, 2011, 10:59 AM
Quote from: Adrenaline951 on Apr 12, 2011, 09:50 PMUpdates???
Nope
like always i come in peace, but you kinda let us believe that you were a link between the band and us that time (through the chilean site) - that we could ask questions to deftones through you and that their answers would appear here...i mean you made a thread where everyone could come up with questions, but then in the end - nothing, just silence.
the consequence is of therefor that one might think it was just a way for you to hype yourself up. you engaged some folks, you can at least say what's up, say what happened / did not happen.
on the whole, you do much for this place and I really respect the time you spend here,posting news updates and material, but i'm sure you tolerate some criticism. just say something more than nope when people ask man :)
Dude, seriously. You say " I come in peace " but obviously you're looking for the little bug. The interview will be available soon, don't be such a cry baby. Everytime I said on this board that I would do something, I did, so relax and be patient.
fuck you guys!!!!
"The only musicians around me that really inspire me are people like Chino Moreno. Every album Deftones releases gets better and better; his vocals are awesome and his lyrics are great. He's not aspiring to be some mega rock star. People look up to him for his talent and not because he has clothing companies, a record label, owns a bar or puts himself all over the internet. Chino is a bad-ass singer and that's about it - that interests me." Quote taken from Spencer Chamberlain of the band Underoath in the latest Rock Sound magazine.
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 14, 2011, 07:47 AM
relax and be patient
that's easy for you to say, but ok.
keep up the good work man :)
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljplklrTOB1qfbn0io1_500.jpg)
Wow, now that's old school.
should've been an unlockable charactar on thps 1
They are finally coming to Poland, my life is now complete.
Rock im Park 2006
(http://best-music-videos.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/83091__deftones__231942973_1c6b40b0b7.jpg)
Damn Chino makes me sad.
Haha!
At least he has taken care of his fatness now.
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 13, 2011, 08:21 PM
Nice long interview of Abe about Chi, the upcoming tour, the next plans, " Covers " vinyl, etc.
http://www.guerrillacandy.com/2011/04/12/listen-an-interview-with-deftones-abe-cunningham/ (http://www.guerrillacandy.com/2011/04/12/listen-an-interview-with-deftones-abe-cunningham/)
when i listen to steph and chino in interviews, i listen to every word they say, often listen to the interviews several times. interviews with abe... i just can't concentrate, i find myself thinking about other things over and over during listening to him talk. it's just the most boring uninteresting shit. well i think so, I probably missed out on a lot of things as usual with that guy ^^
Seems chinito is getting chubby again. But I'm sure he won't double his size again...
Quote from: theis on Apr 18, 2011, 07:20 PM
Haha!
At least he has taken care of his fatness now.
Yeah, but not only he was terribly fat, but he seemed... somewhere else. Not in a good place. I'm sure you know what I mean.
Yeah, definitely.
I loved SNW when it came out, but I can't really listen to it anymore. That whole era just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Vocally and lyrically, you can just hear that he was in a bad, bad place.
His vibe is great now, though. Good for him.
Quote from: theis on Apr 18, 2011, 08:29 PM
Vocally and lyrically, you can just hear that he was in a bad, bad place.
I think that's what gives it its special depressive side that I love, especially in Riviere. I'm a freak. No, wait, I'm just a Deftones fan.
EDIT: I think the guy (looks like Anthony Hopkins) in your sig's checking out the chick in mine.
Quote from: theis on Apr 18, 2011, 08:29 PM
I loved SNW when it came out, but I can't really listen to it anymore. That whole era just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Vocally and lyrically, you can just hear that he was in a bad, bad place.
the same here. lyrically ...a bad bad moment.
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 18, 2011, 09:44 PM
EDIT: I think the guy (looks like Anthony Hopkins) in your sig's checking out the chick in mine.
he's Robert Blake, i think :P
MYSTERY MAN
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 18, 2011, 09:44 PM
Quote from: theis on Apr 18, 2011, 08:29 PM
Vocally and lyrically, you can just hear that he was in a bad, bad place.
EDIT: I think the guy (looks like Anthony Hopkins) in your sig's checking out the chick in mine.
It's the Mystery Man (played by Robert Blake) from David Lynch's Lost Highway.
One of the scariest movie characters ever.
I only said he looked like Hopkins, I didn't imply that it was him. :P
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 18, 2011, 10:20 PM
I didn't imply that it was him. :P
you better not, this is the movie thread - you gotta know your shit !
:D
2003 to 2008 will never be topped for me. glad he's better now though.
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 12, 2011, 11:44 AM
ESP Guitars: Stephen Carpenter (Deftones) Interview 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZdwWQZpmGM#ws)
He is really humble, isn't he? :)
http://thesilvertongueonline.com/?p=26176 (http://thesilvertongueonline.com/?p=26176)
Interview with Deftones' Abe Cunningham
April 19, 2011
Over the years Deftones have released a number B-sides and rarities. And in support of "Record Store Day" the band released all of their covers on vinyl. A small pressing of 5000 "Covers" were released on April 16th at independent music stores. Currently the band is headlining the Diamond Eyes tour which made it's way through South America and is now working it's way through the states. Between tour stops TST spoke to drummer Abe Cunningham about the Covers release and tour.
TST: On April 16th you released "Covers". What inspired you guys to put this only on Vinyl?
Abe: It's in support of Record Store Day. We thought that we could give a "Special Trinket". ITunes has each of the covers available to download.
TST: Deftones have taken these cover songs and really made them emotional. Connecting the listener to music making them feel every word. What is it that Deftones can emotionally connect their fans to the music?
Abe: It's who we are....We are a real band...We are not manufactured....We try to squeeze in 1 or 2 cover songs in the tour for fun. We know some songs we just can't fuck with...but we take each song and make it our own.
TST: April starts another leg of the "Diamond Eyes" Tour. This tour is mainly the States.
Abe: We will start in South America...and then into the States. We were here the first part of this tour but did not focus here. We went overseas mainly. We wanted to focus and have a full tour in the States. We're looking forward to our first real headlining tour here in the States.
TST: Over the past few years you guys have collaborated with a number of artist, including Flava Flav, and now with Tech N9ne on "I Know". How did you guys get hooked up with Tech N9ne?
Abe: I know Flava Flav was one our bus one time. That could have been Stephen working with him. Stephen is into Tech N9ne pretty big and vise versa so the collaboration just worked out.
TST: Is there anyone you would love to collaborate with now?
Abe: Sure , I mean Prince, and there is a long list. But its about it happening naturally. Not forced. We could come across someone out on tour and strike up something together. So its not about planning, its about a organic process. Being open to what is possible.
TST: So how is CHI doing after his accident?
Abe: Its been 2 and half years and the progress has been slow. But just this week he was taken back to New Jersey to special group of doctors. We are supporting him and hoping these doctors can help him. But the good thing is he is back in New Jersey and CHI has a huge support system.
TST: "Eros" was the last cd CHI worked on. Is the album still on the backburner?
Abe: Yes. This was his last cd he worked on,so out of respect for that we are putting "Eros" on simmer till he gets better.
TST: What are the plans for after this leg of the tour?
Abe: We have a lot of tour left. But after this leg of the tour we are going to meet in July and start writing. Well hopefully we start writing that is the plan. Stephen is in this World Poker Championship so it will depend on when he is finished with that.
TST: Who are you listening too right now?
Abe: OOHHH thats a hard question to answer. I am into Baroness but since I have thousands of songs on my ITunes I usually put it on Random and let it go!
TST: Have a few fan questions for you! Will the Deftones be coming back to Scotland?
Abe: Well we do have some UK Festivals in the works right now. So its very possible we will be back in the area!
TST: What's your favorite Star Wars Character?
Abe: Hmmmmmm I would say Lando Calrissian
TST: One more for fan question. What was the inspiration of "Change in House of Flies?"
Abe: This song is special. It was the first song we all wrote together as a band. Usually we do in parts but this song was all together each of us. It was also the first song wrote for "White Pony" cd.
TST: Thank you Abe for talking with TST. We look forward to your Atlanta date on May 28th.
Abe: Thank you and we will see you all!
Interview by Michele Meow.
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 20, 2011, 03:31 PM
Interview with Deftones’ Abe Cunningham
Stephen is in this World Poker Championship
jaja nice...waiting for the participation of stef in the "world marihuana smoker championship"
http://www.guttersnipenews.com/features/homepage-features/deftones-vancouver/ (http://www.guttersnipenews.com/features/homepage-features/deftones-vancouver/)
Long interview of Sergio and Abe after their first show in Vancouver. Nice read.
Nice and long interview of Sergio and Frank. Interesting to hear how Frank became a full-time member back in the ATF days.
Deftones' Frank Delgado & Sergio Vega interview 2011 for Undercover (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hQtILS0Uw8#ws)
Vesanic, do you know any info about the documentary they were talking about? Who's putting it out, when it's coming out or how it's being released (i.e., internet, DVD)?
Quote from: MommaBear on Apr 21, 2011, 11:54 PM
Vesanic, do you know any info about the documentary they were talking about? Who's putting it out, when it's coming out or how it's being released (i.e., internet, DVD)?
I will have to ask, I'll let you know.
http://www.nwitimes.com/entertainment/music/article_342176ba-5dc8-5f91-989b-8b9dbe2fbc18.html (http://www.nwitimes.com/entertainment/music/article_342176ba-5dc8-5f91-989b-8b9dbe2fbc18.html)
Deftones soldier on after tragedy
In fall 2008, Cali–based hard rockers Deftones' professional and personal lives were turned upside down when founding bassist Chi Cheng was seriously injured in a car accident.
At the time, the band was working on material for what was to be their sixth album when Cheng was injured in Santa Clara and, to date, Cheng remains under medical care.
While the band halted work on new material immediately following Cheng's accident, they didn't rest for long.
"It's tough him not being here, but for us to keep on, I think that was our instinct," said Deftones keyboardist Frank Delgado. "From the day the accident happened there was a lot of seeing how he was and his situation. By the time we did get together, I figured we'd talk about it but we really didn't.
"We got together about a month or so later with a friend to play bass together and just jam, because that's what we really wanted to do, and I think a week later we went into the studio because it felt so good."
Slated to play to a sold-out audience at Chicago's Riviera Theatre on April 30, the Deftones – Delgado, front man Chino Moreno, guitarist Stephen Carpenter and drummer Abe Cunningham – found mainstream success with their 2000 set "White Pony," which featured the Grammy Award winning hit "Elite." Continued success came with 2003's self–titled set and 2006's "Saturday Night Wrist."
To fill in for Cheng, the Deftones brought in Sergio Vega, former bassist with the East Coast Big Apple–based alt–metal outfit Quicksand. According to Delgado, Vega was and remains a stellar replacement for Cheng.
"He was open to a lot of different things and he listens to a lot of different styles music, and that influenced how we wrote and what we wrote and what we played," Delgado said of Vega. "And we get along really well. He's got a lot of enthusiasm, and he's a really happy dude, and that was well received."
With Vega on board, the Deftones scrapped the material they were working on with Cheng and started over from scratch for what became last year's "Diamond Eyes." The set, which the band penned and recorded over the course of only a month, debuted on the Billboard 200 album chart in the sixth spot and received kudos from both scribes and fans.
"Sonically it's one of the best sounding records for us," Delgado said. "Considering the short amount of time that it was written in and the creativity that was happening in that amount of time and to be able to capture it all made for a really good experience. And it's a lot of fun, still, and I think that's the most important."
In addition to continued touring over the course of the next four months, the Deftones released a vinyl–only set, "Covers," last Saturday in conjunction with Record Store Day, which finds independent retail shops and artists hosting celebrations throughout the globe. "Covers" finds the band putting their spin on original works written and recorded by the varied likes of The Cure, Duran Duran, Lynyrd Skynyrd and the Cars.
Opening for Deftones is New Jersey hard rockers Dillinger Escape Plan, whose last set, "Option Paralysis," came out last year.
http://www.seacoastonline.com/articles/20110421-ENTERTAIN-104210301 (http://www.seacoastonline.com/articles/20110421-ENTERTAIN-104210301)
Soul searching: The Deftones' 'Diamond Eyes' and 'new' bassist
By Christopher Hislop
April 21, 2011 2:00 AM
"Time will see us realign," sings Chino Moreno, the frontman of Sacramento, California's alternative metal pioneers the Deftones — at the onset of the chorus from the title track of their latest record, "Diamond Eyes."
For the band, no words ring as true.
Forming in 1989, the Deftones are one of the few remaining bands that were at the forefront of a burgeoning alt-metal movement that stayed strong throughout the '90s, but fizzled pretty substantially at the turn of the century. The Deftones are well known for their heavy, speed driving approach — exemplified in the fuzzed out sludge that Stephen Carpenter fires out of his guitar, prompting head banging from all corners of the room, and the shrill cat-like screech that Moreno belts out from time to time just to make sure you're paying close attention. The pounding rhythm section of drummer Abe Cunningham, and bassist Chi Cheng is the force that has always driven the Deftones' music into a pulse raising fury. As the band has grown and developed their own unique sound over the years, they have always taken a proactive approach in letting keyboardist and turntablist Frank Delgado weave some interesting, and often subtle underlying ambient tones that you're unlikely to hear in most "metal" acts' music.
The Deftones have been in a state of flux since Nov. 4, 2008 when founding member — bassist Chi Cheng — was involved in a serious automobile accident leaving Cheng, who sustained a traumatic brain injury, in a semi-conscious state ever since. Home-shot footage of the once powerful man with larger than life stage presence is on www.oneloveforchi.com (http://www.oneloveforchi.com) depicting a man that has seemingly lost the ability to hold his own head up. His lifeless eyes are fixated on nothing in particular while his family sits around him and take turns holding his hand and touching his skin — tracing the contours of his heavily tattooed arms. It's one of the most heart-wrenching and tragic bits of video you'll ever watch.
May of 2010 marked the release of "Diamond Eyes" — the Deftones sixth official release and a project which was recorded rather quickly after the band decided to shelve their much anticipated album, "Eros," which had been in the making for quite some time (writing began in 2007). "Eros," was shelved due mostly in part to the fact that it was the last effort Cheng had been working on with the group prior to his accident, and they deemed it a tad unjust to move forward with it in light of the condition their comrade was/is in.
"Diamond Eyes" marks the debut of the Deftones' "new" bassist, Sergio Vega, who is no stranger to the band. Vega befriended the members of the Deftones while a part of the Warped Tour with his own band, Quicksand.
"They were cool," Vega said in a recent interview about his first interaction with his new bandmates. "They were very down to earth. Just a bunch of dudes making cool music for really nothing more than the notion of playing tunes they liked, for themselves — playing music for the sake of playing music. You know, they were into Black Sabbath, Pantera, and the Bad Brains, so really, we were friends before we even met (laughing)."
Vega has filled in for Cheng once before when Cheng hurt his foot back in 1998, so he is indeed no stranger to the band.
"Diamond Eyes" is heavy. Heavy in the sense that sonically it sits somewhere between "Around the Fur" and "White Pony" — earlier releases from the band — and in the sense that the severity of Cheng's situation weighed heavily on the minds of the band throughout the songwriting and recording process. Rather than exuding bitterness or resentment towards the situation, the Deftones have done some serious soul searching here and corralled their emotions and have ultimately created a piece of work that is inspiring in it's drive to push forward while carefully respecting and holding the past close to heart, hoping that someday the past will again be present.
"The first thing I said when I walked into the studio was, 'man, this situation sucks,'" said Vega. "I asked the guys, 'what do y'all want, what do you need?' to which they responded, 'dude, why you trippin'? Let's just jam.' The energy that ensued was contagious. I felt like I was a young kid getting geared up to make my first record again. I'm truly appreciative of how unassuming the guys in this band are. There was no forecast. It was just get up and make music. The sessions were fast, furious, and fun. We accomplished a lot, and it's nice to see that the fans are feeding off the same energies we were locked into while recording this thing."
The Deftones will be at the Hampton Beach Casino Ballroom on Thursday, May 5 — out in support of "Diamond Eyes," and in the midst of their realignment, which, taken in stride seems to be going fairly well for them.
"The common denominator here is that this is not a means to an end," Vega said. "This band, this group of guys — it's about having a sense of community and through music there is connectivity. That's all that we're looking to achieve right now. When it comes down to it, the bells and the whistles don't matter. It's about doing something you love, and getting excited to make it happen.
"I hold Chi in very high regard. He is a fantastic dude who gave everything he had to his music and his fans. I don't see myself as his replacement, but rather as a brother in arms. I'm going out there to help spread this music, and to help bring the community that surrounds it together, and to stay strong. I feel fortunate to have the opportunity to work with people I admire."
Tragedy brings Deftones closer for a new album
BY KEVIN C. JOHNSON | Posted: Thursday, April 21, 2011 9:00 am |
The Deftones had a tough task in front of it as it recorded its latest album "Diamond Eyes."
It's the first album the Deftones recorded without its longtime bassist, Chi Cheng, who was injured in a car accident in 2008.
But the tragedy ultimately brought the rest of the Deftones closer together.
"We appreciate what we have, what we built and the friendships we have," says lead singer Chino Moreno. "But when something like this happens, it's a wake-up call to start realizing we're lucky to have each other."
The band was in the middle of recording an album, to be called "Eros," at the time of Cheng's accident. But the band mates took an extended break to support their friend.
When it was time to reconvene minus Cheng, who remains in an improving but still semi-conscious state, they had a change of plans.
"Instead of trying to piece together what we were working on and try to teach someone else, we figured if we wanted to continue as a band we had to rebuild the infrastructure from the ground up," Moreno says.
The band brought in Sergio Vega, known for his work with Quicksand.
"Having someone new in the band is new blood," Moreno says. "He gave us a kick in our step, and that's a good thing."
Once Vega joined the band, the Deftones hit the ground running. They'd lost a lot time and needed to play catch-up.
They locked themselves in their tiny Los Angeles rehearsal spot for eight hours a day for two months. Usually, they work at a more leisurely pace but figured this time they might "capture lightning in a bottle."
With "Diamond Eyes," Moreno says the Deftones go a little left from where they've been before, something they try to do with each record. "We never want to re-create the same record. It's simplified and straightforward. We didn't get over self-indulgent or experimental."
Moreno says "Diamond Eyes" differs from what would've been on "Eros." Those songs "were long and there was a lot of jamming-style stuff, which was fun to do. But it wasn't as concise."
In addition to "Diamond Eyes," the Deftones are also promoting "Covers," a covers album released in conjunction with last week's Record Store Day. It has songs from Sade, the Cars, the Smiths, Duran Duran and the Cure. "Every time we record a record, at the end of the process we always squeeze in a cover song just for fun. We like to try things people wouldn't expect from us," he says.
"Eros," meanwhile, remains in the vault indefinitely. The band hasn't listened to the music since Cheng's accident.
"When we do, there will be a lot of emotions. It's pretty deep stuff, and it's the last thing he played on."
Quote from: MommaBear on Apr 21, 2011, 11:54 PM
Vesanic, do you know any info about the documentary they were talking about? Who's putting it out, when it's coming out or how it's being released (i.e., internet, DVD)?
i thougt they meant this one Chi Documentary #1 of 4 "The Accident" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2SslJ0L16k#ws)
by reading and hearing frank, it seems to stop as a band never was an option and to call sergio to record more songs was done pretty quickly after the accident.Frank's version now vs. chino's old stories about it is quite different, interesting read.I can't understand why they don't talk to one another better and have a common picture to serve media.
and it would'nt hurt if sergio began talking about how sad the situation with chi is before he begins to talk about how excited he was to play with deftones, you get almost the impression that he sees the whole situation as something he can take advantage of when he speaks. not the first time i react at this with this guy
I think a polished rehearsed media answer to anything to do with Chi would be worse than conflicting accounts of how it happened, plus i think sergio is really happy that he got to play for deftones, i bed he cant believe his fucking luck! - abosultely nothing wrong with that in my opinion how long can you expect him to be apologetic for, he got invited to the band and probably bit their hand off
I like the truth but am surprised that they leave so different information, can't say that they come off as media trained professionals ^^ at their level i thought deftones had someone who went through this with them when a tragedy like this occurs. "alright let's stick to this story"
sergio don't have to bubble out of joy and jump up and down "look at me im a rock star!" every interview when he got there because of chi's accident. just lack of respect i think.everyone get that sergio is happy to travel around the world and play in a band with friends, but I would urge him to begin an interview with something like "all this with chi is so sad, he's a dear friend of mine and many others, and we all want him to be back on his feet soon .. but in the meantime I will guard his place, we are all waiting for him "
instead of "yeees, he's gone * joink * Stole his place! LOOK AT ME IM THE NEW BASSPLAYER! him hurting his head is the best thing that ever happened to me!!
Quote from: wheresmysnare on Apr 22, 2011, 10:26 AM
I think a polished rehearsed media answer to anything to do with Chi would be worse than conflicting accounts of how it happened
don't agree on that one, different answers make them look like liars who don't stand up for what they decided to do
^^ that was a cool interview
couldnt find this posted yet. click link for the full interview. http://spinitloud.com/?p=405
Your role in the band has really expanded. It's not a traditional position like a guitarist. Can you detail your live set up?
I play the keys, use some Apple stuff. It changes and that's why I love this band. We change it up all the time.
Does your equipment change for each song?
Yeah, there is different software and different sequences. There are different keyboards. It also changes with the advances in technology. A lot of MIDI controllers, stuff like that. I have a lot of fun with it.
How do your contributions tie in with the other band members during the song writing process?
It all depends on the song. For the most part, we all get together in a room and try to make some noise. Then we build off each other. It usually works like that, but it worked really well with this record. That's why it was done in the time frame it was. There's no formula to it, some songs come faster than others. This was the fastest since "Around the Fur". It was really spontaneous.
So Chino doesn't come in with ideas and you guys flesh it out?
No one really comes with ideas. We get together and start jamming. It could come from a bass line or a drum fill or a guitar, it something we've learned. We let it come to us. Nobody has ever come in with finished songs.
The last album was really guitar heavy. Was that a conscious band decision or just something that Stephen developed in the studio?
It may sound clichéd, but that was just the headspace he was in and what he was writing. We never have meetings and talk about being heavier or returning to a previous sound. In fact, we always try to do different things and taking chances. We're getting pretty good at it, or should I say getting better at it. That's my favorite aspect of this band, not being afraid to go from the heaviest song to the prettiest song. Those dynamics are the best part of this band.
i can't be the only one who reads frank interviews with an extremely low frequency voice
Quote from: beaverwithfishyshoes on Apr 26, 2011, 01:17 PM
That's my favorite aspect of this band, not being afraid to go from the heaviest song to the prettiest song. Those dynamics are the best part of this band.[/i]
Agreed!!
so this wasnt posted yet? i stumbled on this by accident.
Quote from: MommaBear on Apr 26, 2011, 01:19 PM
Quote from: beaverwithfishyshoes on Apr 26, 2011, 01:17 PM
That’s my favorite aspect of this band, not being afraid to go from the heaviest song to the prettiest song. Those dynamics are the best part of this band.[/i]
Agreed!!
+1
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 26, 2011, 04:54 PM...
I knew it. Thats why the giants won the WS!
Interview with Sergio Vega
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TswT5Dlok3Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TswT5Dlok3Q)
Interview with Chino:
DEFTONES Black Carpet Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rd4vBBu-Yo)
I might get fired if they found out if Im posting this so here goes fast
DEFTONES frontman Chino Moreno tells Billboard.com that the band is planning to spend the next few weeks working on material for the follow-up to 2010's "Diamond Eyes".
"We're going to have a month off [from touring], but in that month we're talking about going in and starting to write again, maybe even two or three weeks in a rehearsal spot just recording ideas and keeping it going," he said. "[The process will resume in September] so if all goes well hopefully we'll have some product for early next year."
Regarding what the new DEFTONES material might sound like, Moreno said, "Everyone has their own kind of little recording devices and are putting down ideas, but with a band like us we find that when we actually get together in a rehearsal spot where there's no distractions and we can work together cohesively as a band, that's really when we're writing songs. Even at sound check we'll jam and do things, but it's not like we ever stop and say, 'Okay, let's keep going on this,' because there's so many distractions. So we're not that good at working on the road. When we get home and we actually seclude ourselves in a little room, that's when it will start."
When asked about the status of "Eros", the album DEFTONES was working on with Chi Cheng before the bassist's November 2008 car accident which left him in a semi-conscious state, Moreno said, "We still have yet to even sit down as a band and listen to where it was left. There's a lot of great music on it, I know that, but... there's a lot of emotion and stuff around it, obviously. It'll be something we'll put out just out of the blue, when we feel the time is right, but I don't think that will be any time soon. Right now we're definitely going to write new music and put out a new record before we do that."
Read more from Billboard.com.
why would you get fired. If it's in an interview from billboard.com i mean.
true, this interview is all over internet now. thanks anyway!
Early next year will turn to mid 2013. XD
Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on May 02, 2011, 04:28 PM
I might get fired if they found out if Im posting this so here goes fast
Cheers. Hope you didn't get caught ;)
Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on May 02, 2011, 04:28 PM
It'll be something we'll put out just out of the blue, when we feel the time is right, but I don't think that will be any time soon.
:D
Quote from: iceache on May 02, 2011, 06:12 PM
Early next year will turn to mid 2013. XD
optimist
yep, agreeing, LATE 2013
Probably won't happen but it would be dope if they played something they wrote when they go back to touring.
late 2013? Why would you doubt chino's words...
cuz they been touring their asses off the last 12 months XD A new album means more touring... which I cant, but will have to, wait for.
Quote from: Crazylegs on May 02, 2011, 05:00 PM
why would you get fired. If it's in an interview from billboard.com i mean.
I was @ work with my Ipod when I posted this,that is why
exciting news!
i believe in a 2012 release
\m/
please use terry date
2015
Quote from: Penicks on May 03, 2011, 10:58 AM
please use terry date
1 gazzilion percent. Or Kurt Ballou (just because I'm curious).
They've been saying this for months now, what's up with all the hype going on all of a sudden as if it were real news ? I guess it's because it's been posted on that damn mainstream billboard crap.
who cares if it drops in 2012 or 2013....a new album is always good news!!!
and a tour always follows a new album....which is even better news! ;D
Quote from: nineteen on May 03, 2011, 06:38 PM
Quote from: Penicks on May 03, 2011, 10:58 AM
please use terry date
1 gazzilion percent. Or Kurt Ballou (just because I'm curious).
Kurt Ballou has never crossed my mind for them, but my god, everything he's touched has been great.
I've noticed most die hard fans live outside of the u.s. I don't even know anyone who's as into them like myself in any city around me
ponyx, I don't know about that, but I sure know there's a lot of die hard fans outside the US... in Portugal for example!!
Quote from: ponyx on May 03, 2011, 10:39 PM
I've noticed most die hard fans live outside of the u.s. I don't even know anyone who's as into them like myself in any city around me
Ditto
Come to Los Angeles...I get a lot of compliments on my skull tattoo!
"I don't have any other bands." - Chino in that Golden Gods Youtube video
Weird.
Quote from: Inkblades on May 04, 2011, 11:19 PM
"I don't have any other bands." - Chino in that Golden Gods Youtube video
Weird.
Not weird. Good. Means he wont go touring with Team Sleep or Crosses. He'll just put out the music.
They would make such a big deal out of it if he said he did, and that's what he doesn't want. As long as we know its all good.
True.
So, when he's talking about that stuff that sounds like Sade meets Depeche Mode, does he mean Crosses or something that he's just doing by himself?
Quote from: Inkblades on May 05, 2011, 01:37 AM
True.
So, when he's talking about that stuff that sounds like Sade meets Depeche Mode, does he mean Crosses or something that he's just doing by himself?
I'd say he was talking about Crosses, since that's supposed to be out soon-ish.
I'd say he was talking about something he's doing by himself.
Very cool interview of Chino and Sergio, gotta love Chino's little story about his grandma during the recording of Elite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U573VDsTTxU
Via Juan's facebook:
Nooooo!!!
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/227348_10150172945164492_529609491_7154007_2725979_n.jpg)
Bahahaha
loool. u sad Stef? :P
poor thing, must be horrible for him.must be one of the worst things that can happen to him, bet he's torn apart inside. man i can't even watch
just found this...
lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdFsahAR6pM&feature=related
Video Interview with Chino and Abe on KISW Metal Shop before their 1st show with DEP. Abe talks about his scars, and he mentions how he heard 2 tracks from Eros recently, since it randomly played on his phone.
http://bcove.me/5fmlt4an (http://bcove.me/5fmlt4an)
Another great interview about White Pony from last August
http://www.altpress.com/features/entry/the_class_of_2000_chino_moreno_on_deftones_white_pony/
The Class Of 2000: Chino Moreno on Deftones' "White Pony"
In AP 266's Class of 2000 special, we look back at 10 albums that debuted a decade ago and shaped the punk of today. DEFTONES' White Pony made the cut, but our full interview with frontman CHINO MORENO didn't (at least, not in its entirety). Luckily, we've got Altpress.com...
A lot of people point to White Pony as the point where Deftones got rid of that nü-metal tag and reinvented the genre. Was that the intent?
CHINO MORENO:Pretty much. If there was any intent, it was to stay left of everything that was going on at the time. I don't know if you remember, but around that time, there were a bunch of bands in that Limp Bizkit, Papa Roach, nü-metal genre that were doing good business. For us—not that we felt we were so much better than these bands—but we just felt we were different; that we always had something a little different than all these other bands. Our main reason for it was, after that point, we had been lumped in with that scene pretty solely and it was a conscious decision, to not abandon our sound, but to explore a little bit more.
If you look at that whole scene as a big race, it would seem like White Pony was the album where the band definitely lapped the competition. It seemed like it was the milestone for the genre because it was so different from everything that was going around. That's the first record that Frank [Delgado, DJ/synth op] plays as a full-time member, right?
Yeah, that was the first record Frank became more active. He was there during the writing process with us for the majority of the time, and then he actually became a band member shortly after we made the record. I started playing guitar on that record as well, which was pretty weird for a few reasons. One, I didn't really know how to play guitar that well—I still really don't, but obviously, I think I am a little better than I was then. So I was just trying to figure stuff out, and it worked in a way, but it barely worked. When I started playing, Stephen was really standoffish about it. He kind of thought I was stepping on his ground, like, why don't I just worry about singing? To me it was just experimenting; I was just having fun. It was just another way of expressing myself without singing and just making notes and following along. Just counteracting certain melodies and trying different things. So it was just experimental and fun for me, but I didn't look at it from Stephen's standpoint. But what ended up happening when we started writing that record, was when a lot of the push-and-pull started coming from him and I.
That was my next question: Is that the record that started the whole Chino-Stephen butting heads thing? Was the tension a big part of that record?
I think so. That is the one record where it happened, but in a way, I think it was [used as] some of the building blocks of that record. Stephen would have an idea, and I would be like, "That's awesome," and I would come with something to counteract it, and he would do the same thing. I think what we ended up doing was trying to out-do each other, not really thinking about it. What happened was he would build his tower, then I would build mine a little higher and then he would build his tower a little higher, so by the end we had all this great stuff because we were competing in a way, but not really thinking about it.
Now that I look back on it, that's kind of what we were doing so we were just building this project without knowing what we were doing, and I think that's why it sticks out as far as being one of our most dynamic records. You have super-heavy, aggressive songs like "Elite," and you also have songs like "Digital Bath," which is the opposite side of the spectrum, but equally as big-sounding. That's where we really started to hone in on those dynamics and really bring them to the forefront.
You have said that you are not ashamed about Deftones writing "pretty songs," but White Pony was where you first embraced the idea. Was that a big deal at the time? Were there any kind of debates about, for lack of a better phrase, opening yourself to a more feminine side, musically?
It wasn't anything we thought of. I've always been influenced by things like Morrissey, things I grew up with. I've always been inspired by softer stuff, I guess you could say. I feel like I've always tried to put it into our music. I think even if you listen to Adrenaline, there's songs like "Birthmark" and stuff like "Fireal." When people think of Adrenaline, they think of this young, aggressive record—which it is, but there is a hint of a softer side in there. Maybe with White Pony, I felt a little more liberated. I was able to try more things and not be ashamed. For instance, "Teenager," which is the probably the lightest. song on the record. It's pretty much all instrumental and all electronic. The beat is programmed, the only thing that's real on there—or that's played—was Stephen's high keyboards. It's one of those things that builds, and it sounded like nothing else and no one really had a problem with it. I brought the song in, I made it with my buddy Crook, who's in Team Sleep [Moreno's side project] and who's a good friend of Frank. I brought it to the band and was like, "What do you think about putting it on the record?" [The band] were like, "I like it, it's a great song." To me it felt like the record was already venturing out into other places, so it didn't feel like this was going to stick out like a sore thumb. I just thought it would add more colors to the palette, and it feels like that's what it did.
We talked about how the album kind of morphs into really heavy things, and then into textural atmospheres. But lyrically, sex and murder seem to be the big themes that collide throughout that record. Obviously "Knife Party" is like that and "Digital Bath" is about electrocuting a girl in a bathtub. Where did those ideas from?
Drugs. [Laughs.] Pretty much. That was a time, if I have to be honest, when, as a band, we started to experiment a little bit more with drugs. I'm not going to attribute it all to that, but I'm sure it had something to do with it. I was kind of out there in my thoughts and thinking of things. Sex and violence are a big part of fucking rock 'n' roll, always have been. Plus, one of the most interesting aspects of rock to me, so bringing that in and being sort of cryptic and still not being so blatant about it. For instance, "Digital Bath," the song itself isn't, if you took the lyrics out of it and you listen to just the melodies and the song, you wouldn't think that it would be a violent song. It's a prettier, spacier song.
But still sinister.
Yeah, sinister in a way. But then you add those lyrics in there, they're painting a picture, they're telling you a story, I guess. Those are some of my favorite lyrics that I wrote. Now that I look back at it, I don't remember writing them. Which leads me to believe that I was probably out of my mind when I did it. But I always liked that contrast. I like pretty music with dirty lyrics, or vice versa. Song titles even, to offset something and take it somewhere else, it just sort of broadens the spectrum for me.
You talked about the title of the album White Pony as being a cocaine reference, you were pretty open about that in the cover story we ran at that time [AP 145]. Any regrets about framing the album around that title in hindsight?
It is what it is. If it was today, I don't know if I would. Probably not, now that I'm a little older and wiser. I do feel a little bit more responsible about setting a good precedent, especially because I have teenage kids now. I guess I am a little bit more thoughtful about things like that. But, I think it's kind of cool. I'm happy to know that those years of my life are kind of done with. I think that's what makes it easier for me to accept; it was just a phase and part of growing up, I guess.
Isn't White Pony the last Deftones record to go platinum?
Yeah, I think it is. Actually, I think the self-titled record is close to going platinum. I never got a platinum record for it. The only platinum plaques that I have are Adrenaline and White Pony.
The reason I bring that up is that it seems like that's the record that liberated the band. Saying you're an "intelligent metal band" is like being the prettiest waitress at Cracker Barrel. I would kind of think that record, while it was successful financially, was even more successful for the band psychically. Didn't it liberate you, like, "Fuck, we can do anything?"
I think so. I think that was a good and a bad thing for us. When we turned that record in, it was different from the record that's out now. It didn't have the song "Back To School" on it. The record company had nothing to say about it. We wrote it, recorded it and then they put it out. So we did feel pretty great about it. The one thing that I look back on now, they did do a great job. That was the first time I felt like the record company got behind one of our records, in the beginning at least. From the roll out of the record, they promoted it very well. At the time, Maverick Records was growing. They had a lot of money and they were putting it into us. They marketed the record great.
After they put out "Change (In The House Of Flies)" they said to us, "There are no more singles on this record." And my thing was, 'Well, you didn't sign us on Adrenaline because we're a radio band. This is probably the most pop record we've made and you guys had nothing to do with it. There are other songs on here that,just because you wouldn't hear a song like 'RX Queen' on the radio, doesn't mean you can't serve it to the radio and see what happens.' [The label] didn't want to; they got cold feet and said, 'Either this record's cycle is over or you can write another song.' [The band ended up rewriting "Pink Maggit" as "Back To School (Mini-Maggit").] It's one of the only things I look back at with a slight regret.
We did whatever we wanted on that record. We made it and we just did what we wanted. We worked at our leisure; we spent a year making that record and a lot of money, wrote the majority of it in the studio, and we're working on our own time. The last couple records after that, we figured it worked for White Pony, so we can just work that way again. Taking that attitude on the next few records made it a lot more difficult on ourselves, a lot more expensive and way more taxing on our lives. It was definitely a learning experience. We didn't have a preconceived thought, we just wanted to make something that was left of center. We didn't have any big scheme, like this was going to be our breakthrough record or whatever. That's just what happened, it worked out.
The record that would keep you in fancy tracksuits and dreadlocks.
[Laughs.] You said that, not me!
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From the roll out of the record, they promoted it very well. At the time, Maverick Records was growing. They had a lot of money and they were putting it into us. They marketed the record great.
After they put out "Change (In The House Of Flies)" they said to us, "There are no more singles on this record." And my thing was, 'Well, you didn't sign us on Adrenaline because we're a radio band. This is probably the most pop record we've made and you guys had nothing to do with it. There are other songs on here that,just because you wouldn't hear a song like 'RX Queen' on the radio, doesn't mean you can't serve it to the radio and see what happens.' [The label] didn't want to; they got cold feet and said, 'Either this record's cycle is over or you can write another song.' [The band ended up rewriting "Pink Maggit" as "Back To School (Mini-Maggit").] It's one of the only things I look back at with a slight regret.
after change, the record campany said "there are no more singles on it"? so the band ended up rewrting pink maggit?
this is what chino has said in the past:
"Knife Party:
The record company wanted this to be the first single, but i battled them because it was a little to weird. Its a seductive song with a lot of violent imagery. People don't tend to like sex mixed with violence. the mid section has amazing vocals from a girl called Rodleen who worked next door to our studio"
obviously maverick thought there were more singles on it. chino once again contradict himself.
thanks vesanic for posting
Recent interview in Canada, they talk about Diamond Eyes track by track, it's pretty cool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epgNYzeMooI
Pretty honest interview of Abe, a couple of days ago:
http://www.metalsucks.net/2011/04/28/it-was-us-making-it-suck-deftones-drummer-talks-strife-label-love-and-bad-cover-songs/ (http://www.metalsucks.net/2011/04/28/it-was-us-making-it-suck-deftones-drummer-talks-strife-label-love-and-bad-cover-songs/)
"IT WAS US MAKING IT SUCK": DEFTONES DRUMMER ABE CUNNINGHAM TALKS STRIFE, LABEL LOVE, AND BAD COVER SONGS
A dude could get used to the practice of semi-annually checking in with loud alternative rockers the Deftones. That's the pattern at MetalSucks: Every other season, we pry into the personal and professional business of a band destined to be remembered as one of America's all-time greatest (srs), the post-Cobain Faith No More and canonizer of real-head hall of fame acts like The Cardigans, Duran Duran, Suicidal Tendencies, and The Cure.
And the old Deftones — which, of course, were the young Deftones — seemed just as cocksure and drama-wracked as all those. However, this new, older Deftones is grooving smooth and hanging hard, said drummer Abe Cunningham in an epic gab with MS last week. (One never runs out of conversation topics with Deftones dudes.) Animated and way too modest, Cunningham talked me through even more Deftones details than I covered last time (http://www.metalsucks.net/2010/06/11/all-eyes-on-the-deftones-the-stephen-carpenter-interview/) and last last time (http://www.metalsucks.net/2010/04/14/on-the-golden-gods-black-carpet-deftones-chino-moreno/): The fun of recording awesome cover jams, their wake-up call when bassist Chi Cheng was seriously injured (http://www.metalsucks.net/2008/11/05/deftones-bassist-chi-cheng-in-serious-car-accident/), his chemistry with Cheng's replacement Sergio Vega and with singer Chino Moreno, their record deal then and now, and silly people like Helmet's Page Hamilton and the big fat copycats in Shinedown.
Anso DF: The Deftones just released a nice collectors' item for Record Store Day, the Covers collection. I've always admired Deftones covers cuz not only do they show off your range, but it draws listeners closer to the band. It's like, hey, we listen to some of the same shit. And it sounds like you guys have fun.
Abe Cunningham: We do have fun. We always should have fuckin' fun. If you can't have fun, then ... what the hell can you have?[laughs] After we finally got the elusive record deal and started making records, we finished each recording session by laying down a couple fun cover songs. These were songs that we enjoyed, but that maybe would catch people off guard. They might not expect that shit from us, something like Sade.
It's funny because we did that shit a long ... like, 1995. We had come back from our first tour for our first record; we had a friend who had a studio in town. We did "No Ordinary Love" and also "Milk" by S.O.D. When we did "Simple Man" — Stef [Carpenter, Deftones guitarist] and I love Skynrd, always have — but I remember Chino was like, [agreeably] "Yeah, whatever." I remember him recording the lyrics and reading the lyrics right off the CD booklet. He wasn't very comfortable with it; he did a couple passes on it and we called it a day. That was it. And we hadn't heard that thing for hella years, man. Time passed and Chino had actually had babies, a couple sons, and I think that made him see the song in a different light. It's kinda funny how things work out.
Yeah.
I think Shinedown did that song, too.
Yep!
And they also have a song called "Diamond Eyes" — what the fuck is up with that?
[laughs] Dude!
But that's a whole other story. And they're all over the radio. That's fine. Let them do what they do, we'll just keep doing what we do. It's all good.
Sounds fair. I'm a little surprised that Deftones covered a song that Chino wasn't into. Is your selection of cover songs a democratic process? You need a couple votes, then everybody's gotta play it?
It's pretty damn democratic. Maybe it's laziness on some people's parts. Just his ... Everyone has their moments and everyone's been guilty of pulling way less weight than they should. That's just part of being in a band; that's totally fine. We're cool enough and have been around long enough where no one's holding grudges. Like, "Well, you took all the beer back in the day when we were loading the truck up." You can go around holding grudges your whole life, but then you die and all you've done is hold a fuckin' grudge. [laughs] Like I said, we've been around for quite a while now — certainly not forever, but close to forever. We appreciate that we're still able to have a blast. Despite who pulls what weight, or who did it then or doesn't do it now, it all evens out eventually.
About choosing the songs, we all do. We always try to do a little something different for covers. We all are music lovers and we listen to absolutely everything. Just have fun with it. Even like covering "Sinatra" by Helmet, it was like, "How the hell can you do that song? It's already perfect anyways." That was kinda scary. With certain things you take a risk, but at the same time, [pauses] you're just playing someone's song, so fuck it.
I heard that Helmet doesn't play the song anymore cuz we covered it. If that's the case, that's sorry. I heard that's what Page [Hamilton, Helmet frontman] said: "When other bands cover our song, we stop playing it." If that's the case, [to Hamilton] you need to lighten up, dude.
Is it just that the Deftones took over the song and Helmet can't play it as well?
No, I think he thinks we bastardized it, which I can understand. I've heard songs of ours that have been bastardized by people, too. [Um, like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL4bpFq-_DA#)? Or this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNChcvfHwHg#)? Certainly this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUzx6-ZcMkc#)! --ADF] It's cool that people do them! Like you said, it's all about having a good time. If your music touches someone, that's what it's about! Life's too short, man.
Well, I've wondered about who chooses cover material because no Deftones cover jam has made me say, "The drummer picked that one. Definitely." I guess I'm waiting for a Deftones cover song that is an Abe Cunningham showcase. Like freaking "Tom Sawyer." Something drum-crazy!
[pauses] Damn. I'm no Neil Peart.
[laughs] Come on, man.
I'm certainly no Neil Peart.
But Deftones records feature some of the tastiest drumming (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXVT8Akv7BM#) put to tape, ever! You don't agree with that.
Nah, I always say I'm just a squirrel looking for a nut after a long, cold winter. Shit, I just love playing drums, man.
I can dig it.
[laughs] Alright, man.
You guys planned a show in which the setlist would consist of the complete Around The Fur and Diamond Eyes albums.
We were supposed to do that [Saturday, April 16] in Portland, but that was a severe miscommunication with our esteemed management. I don't know. It didn't happen. [laughs] We were there for two nights and we played two rad shows. Apparently we were supposed to [play those albums], but I guess we didn't. I've only heard a little backlash; I think people we happy to have a regular show. We're out with Dillinger right now; it's just super-duper fun. I did hear something about that, but I don't know; I think we're bad boys and we need to be spanked.
I was excited by that idea since it'd set up questions to you about the connection between those two Deftones albums. Is there any similarity between the creations of Around The Fur and Diamond Eyes? Were they both made quickly?
Defintely, yeah. It's a great observation. On the surface, shit, they're more then ten years apart. When we hear those comparisons and similarities, we're like, "That's cool. I wonder what it could be." It's simple: When we made Around The Fur, we were super stoked. We'd put out one record [1995's Adrenaline], and no matter how well that record did, the label had to ... We got another record. if everything else failed, we still had another record to make and put out. We'd toured and seen the world, and we came back juiced! Stoked. The process was super quick. We'd been around four, five years before we'd been signed. We were in a really great place, just super charged up to do it again.
But from that point on, I think making records for us became like pulling teeth, man. Or what's worst than pulling teeth? Maybe surgery with no anesthesia, not to totally paraphrase a fucking song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6_zsJ8KPP0#).
[laughs]
[laughs] Basically, making records became not fun. From around ... What's the one after White Pony?
Uh, the self-titled one?
Yeah, that one. And then Saturday Night Wrist was the absolute ... just the worst time that you could ever, ever ... And here we are in a band, we're brothers having a blast, and everything should be great. But it absolutely sucked. But we figured out that it was us making it suck. We were making it way harder than it needed to be. There were issues with certain things in our lives, and things getting picked up along the way, and all this crap.
Anyways, on Diamond Eyes ... Chi had his accident and that had a profound effect on how we do everything and on us as individuals — and still does to this day. That made us really stop in our tracks and say, "Look, man, know what? We've been treating ourselves and each other terribly. We're in a band, dude; we get to go around the world and play music. C'mon man. Our brother is down." It put everything in perspective very, very clearly: How we treat each other, how we treat our — dare I say, our business? I guess this is our business after all these years.
Sure!
Coming into making Diamond Eyes, we were totally flattened and blown away by everything that happened with [Cheng], but at the same time, we decided to just try to make some more music. We went to our little jam room like we always had before and focussed on the music. This all sounds corny, but it's really true. We all stepped away from everything for a few months there, and just wanted to see where things were gonna go with him and how he was going to improve, and if he'd even make it through that first few months.
We had a show booked that we had to fulfill, so we called up Sergio [Vega, ex-Quicksand bassist], who'd filled in for Chi in the past. Obviously, he came from Quicksand, a band that we seriously loved, were way into, and became buddies with over the years. We had a set to get together for this one show we had, so he agreed to come out to New York and do it.
Even in that first jamming session, we wrote "Royal," the second song on our new record. We were like, "Let's keep on writing songs and see what happens." We had no plan on making a record or anything at all. But the next day, we were like, "Hey, we're gonna make a record." We never really looked back. This is long-winded, I know, but I'm getting back to answering your question. I can look at both of those times, and that's the comparison. Each was done really fast, but we were back to having a great time doing what we do again, exactly the way it was way, way back when we did Around The Fur.
Cool.
There's probably more to it than that, but really that's the essence. We're enjoying each other and enjoying making music again; we vowed to never do it again like we did it the last few times: super-duper expensive, wasting time, not communicating — just stupid. I'm glad we were able to overcome that. We'll never have to deal with that bullshit again.
To what extent were those issues related to pressure? Your first album showed strong, then you had a bona fide hit with Around The Fur and "Be Quiet And Drive" –
Yeah, it's funny the way the industry ... Our third album, White Pony, was apparently our "breakthrough hit." We were already three records deep. But, definitely, yeah, those were things that went well.
Maybe White Pony was called a breakthrough because it reached fancy music people who don't normally stoop to our level.
I understand that, but we were like, "Motherfucker, we've been doing this!" But I understand how it goes.
We talked about the fact that creating the self-titled Deftones record and Saturday Night Wrist involved a lot of wasted time and wasted money. I think it shows on the self-titled record; it's a little one-dimensional. However, I fucking love Saturday Night Wrist. That shit sounds like the result of great chemistry, not frustration and strife in the studio. Can you explain why it's not regarded as a highlight of the Deftones catalogue?
It's a trip, man. I enjoyed it. When I hear it, like when I hear any of our records, it takes me right back. That's what music should do — take you back to wherever you were at. If it was a good time or a break-up. Anything. That's the beauty of music. But that was a really horrendous time. Only now am I hearing people say, "They're not playing a lot from that record. I wonder if it's because they're too attached to it." It's not really that; we're just trying to give other records a chance. And we do need to play more songs off that, we just haven't for the past year or so. I think we're gonna add more in.
That record is a trip, for one, because it was recorded in, like, six different studios. Not only in California, but we started tracking the majority of it up in Connecticut. A couple songs have drum parts where the verse was tracked in this living room at this house in California, the main part was recorded in the main studio, then we put a little something else on top. If you have a record that's been recorded in one spot, it sounds pretty much the same; so Saturday Night Wrist has a lot of variety in terms of drum sounds. We really cut up and pieced [together] a lot of shit. We had to. We weren't talking so how the hell were we going to make a record. That's why it took so long.
Damn.
It sucks when you're not even talking to your best friends in the world. They're five feet away and you're not even speaking. That was pretty lame. But it's not like that anymore. We talk a lot.
That's scary. I don't hear a lot of real-time gossip from the Deftones camp, so I wasn't worried then. But to hear this now makes me tense. Fans don't want our jams endangered in any way.
Totally. But now we're talking a lot. Talking a lot of shit. [laughs] We're having a blast, man.
That's great. Regarding live performance, you're probably the player who's most immediately affected by Chi's absence. Was it tough to start anew and lock in with Sergio?
No, it was really seamless. He had filled in for Chi in the past, but honestly, it was our love of Quicksand, and their massive influence on us ... Similar swagger, similar style. Chi and I were influenced seriously by Sergio and Alan [Cage, Quicksand drummer]. Without saying that we ripped them off, how about [we say] that they greatly influenced us. Sergio's just a great dude who came to it at our greatest time of need.
It's a trip, though; it's different. I think we're actually tighter now. We already had six records, a catalogue, and he came into our camp wanting to be good. We were sitting there like, "Well, blah, we've played these songs a thousand times. Whatever." But he really kicked us in the ass to pay attention to the music again. There were songs that we hadn't touched off a bunch of records in many years. We started jamming and getting the juices flowing, and now it's ingrained for us. We can take the fact that we haven't played [a song] in eight years, and we can play it now — due to him. He's been a very positive influence on us, kicking us into gear. But it was due, it was necessary; we've grown up. You spend a little more time on earth and hopefully things make a bit more sense.
I'm fascinated by the Deftones' home on Warner Bros. Records. It's a major label group, but the Warners label has fostered a huge roster of left-of-center and prestigious but great-selling acts, like Talking Heads, Van Halen, Flaming Lips, Robyn Hitchcock, and so on.
Yeah, and Neil Young on Reprise — that's all Warner Bros. Such great bands. I hear ya.
Oh yeah — Faith No More was on Reprise, too. Do you find that part of the Deftones' creative success, if not your popular success, is due to Warners' way of doing things? Do they give you a long leash?
Yeah, the first three records we recorded, mixed, and mastered, and then sent in the masters to them without a peep of input. They let us do exactly what we wanted to do, for better or worse. We were like, 'Wow, we're on a national label. This is amazing.' [Then, the music industry] started changing, in terms of lack of sales and the need for an immediate hit, and we were one of the last bands of an era — what am I trying to say here — to be nurtured, to be allowed to do what we want by a label. The goal was to get out on tour, then eventually get off tour support and be self-sufficient. That doesn't exist anymore, man; it does, to a degree, on smaller indies. But to be nurtured and supported is a huge thing, and [our label] totally did that.
But the industry changed and [the label] started peeking. That shit pisses us off, so we had massive beef all through the self-titled album and Saturday Night Wrist. I mean, massive hatred of the label and their opinions. We're not fools and we understand how the industry changed. It's a crazy business, man. I like to play drums. [laughs] It's pretty wild. They were great, man. I don't know where they're at now; and I don't know where we're at. I know we're enjoying ... That's all I can say on that. It's been a great place to be. We've certainly had our beefs, but that's anything in life.
thank you for the interview, V. You keep us really up to date.
I guess if you have bad memories of making a record then you're not gonna play songs off of that record live because it will remind you of the bad times. Prob why they never want to play songs off of SNW and maybe S/T.
"what's that one after white pony?"
That hurt my soul...
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Another great interview about White Pony from last August
http://www.altpress.com/features/entry/the_class_of_2000_chino_moreno_on_deftones_white_pony/ (http://www.altpress.com/features/entry/the_class_of_2000_chino_moreno_on_deftones_white_pony/)
The Class Of 2000: Chino Moreno on Deftones' "White Pony"
In AP 266's Class of 2000 special, we look back at 10 albums that debuted a decade ago and shaped the punk of today. DEFTONES' White Pony made the cut, but our full interview with frontman CHINO MORENO didn't (at least, not in its entirety). Luckily, we've got Altpress.com...
A lot of people point to White Pony as the point where Deftones got rid of that nü-metal tag and reinvented the genre. Was that the intent?
CHINO MORENO:Pretty much. If there was any intent, it was to stay left of everything that was going on at the time. I don't know if you remember, but around that time, there were a bunch of bands in that Limp Bizkit, Papa Roach, nü-metal genre that were doing good business. For us—not that we felt we were so much better than these bands—but we just felt we were different; that we always had something a little different than all these other bands. Our main reason for it was, after that point, we had been lumped in with that scene pretty solely and it was a conscious decision, to not abandon our sound, but to explore a little bit more.
If you look at that whole scene as a big race, it would seem like White Pony was the album where the band definitely lapped the competition. It seemed like it was the milestone for the genre because it was so different from everything that was going around. That's the first record that Frank [Delgado, DJ/synth op] plays as a full-time member, right?
Yeah, that was the first record Frank became more active. He was there during the writing process with us for the majority of the time, and then he actually became a band member shortly after we made the record. I started playing guitar on that record as well, which was pretty weird for a few reasons. One, I didn't really know how to play guitar that well—I still really don't, but obviously, I think I am a little better than I was then. So I was just trying to figure stuff out, and it worked in a way, but it barely worked. When I started playing, Stephen was really standoffish about it. He kind of thought I was stepping on his ground, like, why don't I just worry about singing? To me it was just experimenting; I was just having fun. It was just another way of expressing myself without singing and just making notes and following along. Just counteracting certain melodies and trying different things. So it was just experimental and fun for me, but I didn't look at it from Stephen's standpoint. But what ended up happening when we started writing that record, was when a lot of the push-and-pull started coming from him and I.
That was my next question: Is that the record that started the whole Chino-Stephen butting heads thing? Was the tension a big part of that record?
I think so. That is the one record where it happened, but in a way, I think it was [used as] some of the building blocks of that record. Stephen would have an idea, and I would be like, "That's awesome," and I would come with something to counteract it, and he would do the same thing. I think what we ended up doing was trying to out-do each other, not really thinking about it. What happened was he would build his tower, then I would build mine a little higher and then he would build his tower a little higher, so by the end we had all this great stuff because we were competing in a way, but not really thinking about it.
Now that I look back on it, that's kind of what we were doing so we were just building this project without knowing what we were doing, and I think that's why it sticks out as far as being one of our most dynamic records. You have super-heavy, aggressive songs like "Elite," and you also have songs like "Digital Bath," which is the opposite side of the spectrum, but equally as big-sounding. That's where we really started to hone in on those dynamics and really bring them to the forefront.
You have said that you are not ashamed about Deftones writing "pretty songs," but White Pony was where you first embraced the idea. Was that a big deal at the time? Were there any kind of debates about, for lack of a better phrase, opening yourself to a more feminine side, musically?
It wasn't anything we thought of. I've always been influenced by things like Morrissey, things I grew up with. I've always been inspired by softer stuff, I guess you could say. I feel like I've always tried to put it into our music. I think even if you listen to Adrenaline, there's songs like "Birthmark" and stuff like "Fireal." When people think of Adrenaline, they think of this young, aggressive record—which it is, but there is a hint of a softer side in there. Maybe with White Pony, I felt a little more liberated. I was able to try more things and not be ashamed. For instance, "Teenager," which is the probably the lightest. song on the record. It's pretty much all instrumental and all electronic. The beat is programmed, the only thing that's real on there—or that's played—was Stephen's high keyboards. It's one of those things that builds, and it sounded like nothing else and no one really had a problem with it. I brought the song in, I made it with my buddy Crook, who's in Team Sleep [Moreno's side project] and who's a good friend of Frank. I brought it to the band and was like, "What do you think about putting it on the record?" [The band] were like, "I like it, it's a great song." To me it felt like the record was already venturing out into other places, so it didn't feel like this was going to stick out like a sore thumb. I just thought it would add more colors to the palette, and it feels like that's what it did.
We talked about how the album kind of morphs into really heavy things, and then into textural atmospheres. But lyrically, sex and murder seem to be the big themes that collide throughout that record. Obviously "Knife Party" is like that and "Digital Bath" is about electrocuting a girl in a bathtub. Where did those ideas from?
Drugs. [Laughs.] Pretty much. That was a time, if I have to be honest, when, as a band, we started to experiment a little bit more with drugs. I'm not going to attribute it all to that, but I'm sure it had something to do with it. I was kind of out there in my thoughts and thinking of things. Sex and violence are a big part of fucking rock 'n' roll, always have been. Plus, one of the most interesting aspects of rock to me, so bringing that in and being sort of cryptic and still not being so blatant about it. For instance, "Digital Bath," the song itself isn't, if you took the lyrics out of it and you listen to just the melodies and the song, you wouldn't think that it would be a violent song. It's a prettier, spacier song.
But still sinister.
Yeah, sinister in a way. But then you add those lyrics in there, they're painting a picture, they're telling you a story, I guess. Those are some of my favorite lyrics that I wrote. Now that I look back at it, I don't remember writing them. Which leads me to believe that I was probably out of my mind when I did it. But I always liked that contrast. I like pretty music with dirty lyrics, or vice versa. Song titles even, to offset something and take it somewhere else, it just sort of broadens the spectrum for me.
You talked about the title of the album White Pony as being a cocaine reference, you were pretty open about that in the cover story we ran at that time [AP 145]. Any regrets about framing the album around that title in hindsight?
It is what it is. If it was today, I don't know if I would. Probably not, now that I'm a little older and wiser. I do feel a little bit more responsible about setting a good precedent, especially because I have teenage kids now. I guess I am a little bit more thoughtful about things like that. But, I think it's kind of cool. I'm happy to know that those years of my life are kind of done with. I think that's what makes it easier for me to accept; it was just a phase and part of growing up, I guess.
Isn't White Pony the last Deftones record to go platinum?
Yeah, I think it is. Actually, I think the self-titled record is close to going platinum. I never got a platinum record for it. The only platinum plaques that I have are Adrenaline and White Pony.
The reason I bring that up is that it seems like that's the record that liberated the band. Saying you're an "intelligent metal band" is like being the prettiest waitress at Cracker Barrel. I would kind of think that record, while it was successful financially, was even more successful for the band psychically. Didn't it liberate you, like, "Fuck, we can do anything?"
I think so. I think that was a good and a bad thing for us. When we turned that record in, it was different from the record that's out now. It didn't have the song "Back To School" on it. The record company had nothing to say about it. We wrote it, recorded it and then they put it out. So we did feel pretty great about it. The one thing that I look back on now, they did do a great job. That was the first time I felt like the record company got behind one of our records, in the beginning at least. From the roll out of the record, they promoted it very well. At the time, Maverick Records was growing. They had a lot of money and they were putting it into us. They marketed the record great.
After they put out "Change (In The House Of Flies)" they said to us, "There are no more singles on this record." And my thing was, 'Well, you didn't sign us on Adrenaline because we're a radio band. This is probably the most pop record we've made and you guys had nothing to do with it. There are other songs on here that,just because you wouldn't hear a song like 'RX Queen' on the radio, doesn't mean you can't serve it to the radio and see what happens.' [The label] didn't want to; they got cold feet and said, 'Either this record's cycle is over or you can write another song.' [The band ended up rewriting "Pink Maggit" as "Back To School (Mini-Maggit").] It's one of the only things I look back at with a slight regret.
We did whatever we wanted on that record. We made it and we just did what we wanted. We worked at our leisure; we spent a year making that record and a lot of money, wrote the majority of it in the studio, and we're working on our own time. The last couple records after that, we figured it worked for White Pony, so we can just work that way again. Taking that attitude on the next few records made it a lot more difficult on ourselves, a lot more expensive and way more taxing on our lives. It was definitely a learning experience. We didn't have a preconceived thought, we just wanted to make something that was left of center. We didn't have any big scheme, like this was going to be our breakthrough record or whatever. That's just what happened, it worked out.
The record that would keep you in fancy tracksuits and dreadlocks.
[Laughs.] You said that, not me!
Man, I would kill to hear the demos and sessions from the WP era. Any exist I may not be aware of? I know things were different then with internet interaction and all but there has to be something. Like the whole push n pull process w Chino n Steph, I would love to hear the other version that didn't make the cut! Just a thought we probably all share. Anything? : )
??? Sorry, didn't mean to quote the whole damn article. My apology :)
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Quote from: ponyx on May 03, 2011, 10:39 PM
I've noticed most die hard fans live outside of the u.s. I don't even know anyone who's as into them like myself in any city around me
Ditto
true! we r isolated to crumminess here on fm radio and shiiiiit pop culture influences. gotta seek this gem of a band i guess
Found a recent video interview. It was done on the anniversary of Diamond Eyes: http://www.upvenue.com/article/1365-deftones-interview.html (http://www.upvenue.com/article/1365-deftones-interview.html)
Check out the interview with the Deftones. They are on the cover of the May 2011 issue of SFL Music Magaziine ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
www.SFLMusic.com (http://www.sflmusic.com) to read it.
You can also order the magazine --> www.magcloud.com/browse/Issue/190519 (http://www.magcloud.com/browse/Issue/190519)
For some reason, whenever I read this thread title, my LysDexia computes it as "Deftones Interview/CONTROVERSY"......
Get just a little bit excited each time....
Haha I know, I thought the exact same thing when I first saw it.
me too.
same
There was a tiny blurb in last weeks Kerrang featuring Chino and apparently he said that after touring their gonna take am month of then go back in the studio. If that above link says the same thing, sorry, I couldnt open it.
So Eros songs are longer then??Reminds of SNW demos cause they were long too
DeftonesTalk about a new generation of fans (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD_CFKvgsK8#ws)
http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/countygrind/2011/05/qa_deftones_frank_delgado.php (http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/countygrind/2011/05/qa_deftones_frank_delgado.php)
so there will be another tour after the short european tour?
awesome!
JoeGtv- JoeG interviews Chino Moreno of Deftones for Norcal Magazine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwaHfgUv_go#ws)
Danzig on the new deftones album, imagine that!
then we could finally talk about occult themes in deftones music
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So I'm in the staff of the Chilean Deftones fans community and they just got the OK to interview them before their set at the Lollapalooza festival on April 2nd. They want me to come up with a couple of questions. I can do it but if some of you guys want to ask a specific question, here's your chance.
I'll let you know when the interview is done.
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The interview will be available soon, don't be such a cry baby. Everytime I said on this board that I would do something, I did, so relax and be patient.
i'm interested in if they got your or anyone elses questions .. any updates? we're approaching almost 2 months since ;)
Deal with it. :)
i guess that little project is dead now. too bad that the eros - money to chi - question never reached them, it would have been interesting to hear the answer ... one tend to get a little tired of always hearing flattering questions like "diamond eyes sound so cohesive, what's the secret?" or "how could you come up with such a great album with chi's accident in the back of your mind, you guys are awesome"
it gets old with the "you're great" questions and the "yeah i know" answers.. kinda meaningless after a while
I want to hear the ultimate question: What do the band REALLY think about S/T or is it an album they would rather forget?
The Deftones Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z9-v-dbddI#ws)
frank is too serious, i wanna see him laugh :P
Quote from: ponyx on May 23, 2011, 02:23 AM
frank is too serious, i wanna see him laugh :P
(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee461/billy6650/100203-deftones-frank-3.jpg)
Yesterday's web chat with Abe and Sergio. There is a list of questions to go with it if interested.
It was actually really cool to get my question answered, almost like having a conversation. Didn't know Abe could be so chatty, yet not being able to name favorite drummers, music or football teams...
Here:
Deftones Chat LIVE with WJRR.com (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mktU363FiwE#ws)
Quote from: BillyNo.9 on May 23, 2011, 02:57 AM
Quote from: ponyx on May 23, 2011, 02:23 AM
frank is too serious, i wanna see him laugh :P
(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee461/billy6650/100203-deftones-frank-3.jpg)
made ME laugh -___- lmao
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_llp4eijv0X1qf2khbo1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1306326131&Signature=Qc3MK01c37yfSqxaxwNpDXR7DbI%3D)
Are deftones in that list? Also spin sucks. They're almost as bad as rolling stone.
Don't know where to put my new tumblr link.....
http://dutchdeftones.tumblr.com/ (http://dutchdeftones.tumblr.com/)
Zildjian Behind the Scenes - Abe Cunningham (Deftones) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m6hbdwJvns#ws)
Sound Service: ESP Guitars Stephen Carpenter (Deftones) Interview 2011.mp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVn67Hq3t58#ws)
DEFTONES Interview at Revolver Golden Gods 2011 on Metal Injection (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COaJi3BIQNY#ws)
Quote from: delorean on May 23, 2011, 03:29 AM
Didn't know Abe could be so chatty, yet not being able to name favorite drummers, music or football teams...
when stef in an interview was asked to describe the other members in the band he said "indecisive" about Abe, geuss that's the way he is. (chino was highly emotional,cheng level-headed, frank mellow, and stef called himself mr know it all) however, is it so damn hard to stand behind an opinion? Abe's kind of irritating when he's like that i think :P
Quote from: from_musings on May 30, 2011, 03:45 PM
Just so you know, the Chilean interview deal is not dead, I just don't have the right to post it before they do, and apparently, they still haven't, so it's not up to me.
Quote from: Vesanic on May 30, 2011, 04:48 PM
Quote from: from_musings on May 30, 2011, 03:45 PM
Just so you know, the Chilean interview deal is not dead, I just don't have the right to post it before they do, and apparently, they still haven't, so it's not up to me.
wow cool. tell them to post it already ;D do you know if some of the questions here got asked?
I watched it only once and you couldn't hear shit... Actually, the thing was filmed with a digcam but the guy was also recording the words with his iPhone, I'm waiting for that source to hear what's actually been said... But I know all the questions I put in the final post got answered. Or maybe except one, but I'm not sure.
alright. guess i go into patience mode again 8)
Quote from: Vesanic on May 30, 2011, 05:13 PM
I watched it only once and you couldn't hear shit... Actually, the thing was filmed with a digcam but the guy was also recording the words with his iPhone, I'm waiting for that source to hear what's actually been said... But I know all the questions I put in the final post got answered. Or maybe except one, but I'm not sure.
Good to hear. Looking forward to hearing some fan questions answered instead of the same old shit!
Interview of Frank on the phone, on May 27th, before their show in Louisville.
http://soundcloud.com/thescuttlebutthour-com/frank-delgado-of-deftones-5-27#new-timed-comment-at-386962 (http://soundcloud.com/thescuttlebutthour-com/frank-delgado-of-deftones-5-27#new-timed-comment-at-386962)
deftone's been around since 1995? who the hell wrote like linus then?
another single? please not beauty school, please not beauty school
What a noob. 'You've been around since 1995....'
Like Linus and all other demo songs you mean...
what's up guys?!
Little article with Abe and Chino, posted today:
http://newsok.com/deftones-tour-behind-pretty-powerful-album/article/3572781 (http://newsok.com/deftones-tour-behind-pretty-powerful-album/article/3572781)
Quote from: slyartwork on May 31, 2011, 04:05 AM
Like Linus and all other demo songs you mean...
no,why would i need more than one example to prove it. one is perfectly enough, don't over do it
Chino Moreno- Deftones Pre-Show Interview at the AT&T Center (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWWgo18WmOA#)
http://www.caller.com/news/2011/jun/03/deftones-turn-crises-opportunitiesto-make-great-mu/?print=1 (http://www.caller.com/news/2011/jun/03/deftones-turn-crises-opportunitiesto-make-great-mu/?print=1)
Deftones turn crises into opportunitiesto make great music
By Alan Sculley/Special to the Caller-Times
Friday, June 3, 2011
CORPUS CHRISTI — Few people would have blamed the Deftones if the group's latest CD, "Diamond Eyes," had been a dark and depressing album. The fact is, much of the past decade has not been kind to the group.
First, there was the long and difficult ordeal that was the making of the group's 2006 CD, "Saturday Night Wrist," a project that began more than three years earlier and saw tensions in the band reach a point where the group nearly fractured.
Then in November 2008, bassist Chi Cheng was left in a coma from injuries suffered in an auto accident. He survived the accident and has made some progress in his recovery.
"He's out of his coma, but he's still in a semiconscious state, which means he wakes up and he sleeps, like a pattern that he opens his eyes and things like that. But he has yet to really communicate yet," Deftones singer Chino Moreno reported in a recent phone interview.
Another positive development, according to Deftones deejay/keyboardist Frank Delgado is that Cheng was recently moved from the West Coast to New Jersey, where he is now under the care of a specialist that has had a high success rate in working with patients that have suffered head trauma.
Along with Cheng's situation, the group shelved a CD that was nearly finished before Cheng's accident — called "Eros." Some wondered if this meant the Deftones had given up on the band as a whole.
Instead the band — with longtime friend Sergio Vega stepping in on bass — rebounded by regrouping and making "Diamond Eyes." And far from sounding dispirited, the band sounds energized on the CD, and its lyrical direction is decidedly positive. Moreno said that mood was not an accident, nor was it unintended.
"I think it was expected from everybody that we were just going to go with this dark record, with this sad record and this kind of pity kind of record, where at this point, I feel like although this happened to us, there are so many worse things (to go through)," the vocalist said. "It's like I felt kind of empowered to show that life is going to go on, and Chi is going to fight and we're just going to make some badass music."
Given the turmoil that marked "Saturday Night Wrist" and the loss of Cheng, there was plenty of speculation that the Deftones would simply pack it in as a band.
But Moreno said there were never any sentiments voiced within the band (the other members are drummer Abe Cunningham and guitarist Stephen Carpenter) for ending the Deftones.
"We sat around and talked about Chi for a good couple of hours, but not really about what we planned on doing as a band," Moreno said of a key band meeting.
"It's like we sat there and talked, and everybody got a lot of things off of their chests, their thoughts and what we were thinking about Chi. And when we were done with that, everybody just gravitated toward their instruments and picked them up and we started to play together. And that was, I think, the most therapeutic thing at the time for us to do."
In fact, it took only months to finish "Diamond Eyes," and Moreno feels the Deftones recaptured the energy and attitude that existed in the band in its early years, when the band (which formed in 1988 in Los Angeles) made its early albums "Adrenaline" (1995) and "Around The Fur" (1997).
The CD as a whole possesses the signatures that made "Around The Fur" (and the Deftones music in general) stand out in the first place — the mix of thick angular guitar riffs melting into melodic choruses, coupled with a fierce rhythmic attack and fierce vocals powering many of the songs through the verses. The group, though, sounds especially inspired on "Diamond Eyes," delivering passionate performances and some of its strongest songwriting on tracks like "Royal," "You've Seen The Butcher" and "Prince."
Delgado said the band has gotten a good response to "Diamond Eyes," and the popularity of the album is apparent in the fact that a year after the release of the CD, the band is doing a full headlining tour this spring and summer. Fans headed out to Concrete Street Amphitheater can expect a show that runs upward of two hours.
"We're going to try to pull out a little more songs that we haven't really been playing for a while," Delgado said. "And we're not always fond of playing the same sets everywhere we go every time we go through. So we try to change it up as much as we can. And I think a thing we're known for is we pretty much write our sets last second, so it's kind of a surprise to us sometimes."
is it me or at this point all these interviews kinda sound the same ?
yup, because they're the same questions over and over and over and over and over
Needs more questions about S/T imo
you think so? there's something so mystical/mysterious about that era that it's part of its appeal in my opinion
Quote from: Penicks on Jun 04, 2011, 09:23 PM
you think so? there's something so mystical/mysterious about that era that it's part of its appeal in my opinion
Agreed. I'd actually rather them release a DVD about that whole writing/recording process rather than make a new album.
Oh I totally agree about the whole mystery surrounding it. But I would just like to know from the bands point of view, what they really think of the album. It's considered the "divorce" album or whatever and maybe that's why the band hate it so much. I would put it to the band that a lot of fans see S/T as your best work but you guys only play the same songs off of it and never any of the others. Why is that? Thanks.
I agree with Starz, so many great songs from that album but they NEVER play them, other than maybe hexagram and a couple others. I would really love to hear Anniversary Of An Uninteresting Event someday. Does anyone know if they've ever played it live?
The played it at the Chi benefit show.
I know this, but I can google as well:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=deftones+anniversary+of+an+uninteresting+event+live&aq=0 (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=deftones+anniversary+of+an+uninteresting+event+live&aq=0)
They play a bunch of songs from s/t ppl, just as they do from any other album. There is no reason they don't play certains songs as there is no reason they don't play certain songs from any other album. They just like these better to play... Okay, that is an opinion, not a fact but still.... Look at White Pony.... they don't play certain songs from that album too... same as the others.
Deftones are not such a difficult band, believe me, they just like these better to play for that reason. No special other meaning....
thanks sly, thanks ves
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 05, 2011, 10:26 AM...
deathblow and moana are pretty dark stuff.. and deftones themselves talk a lot about that diamond eyes is a bit more optimistic, the vibe of their relationship among each other are positive, maybe they want the shows to be just that too "oh happy days tour". personally I think they should play more of the s/t stuff because I think much of that album is the best they've ever done.deathblow, wgtb, lucky you,bloody cape and moana are all like top 10 deftones songs of mine.
anniversary is also good, and brilliant positioned on the album. it's like the tsunami in 2004 when it was two waves that struck. people there said that between the 2 waves,the water pulled back and it was quiet and peaceful before the second wave.and then the second wave came with tremendous force. anniversary is like the calm part between the waves right before the second wave - moana :p
Not much point in saying it but that second wave should have been called lovers.
the problem with lovers as a closer in this metaphor is that it wouldn't strike with tremendeous force. Moana really attacks you while lovers would be a weak ending. i love the song, no question, but it's mellow and sweet, it wouldn't be a second wave of destruction - it would be like as if a little child pissed in the water and that warm mixed water/piss gently washed up on your feet while you stood on the beach
Really? I find the opening so much more bludgeoning than the opening of moana. Lovers just explodes and never let's up. Definitely a bigger guitar sound. The soft intro of moana goes on too long. How the he'll is lovers mellow and sweet? We're talking about the same song right?
talking about lovers here, did anyone remember the fake lovers cover? the one with a phonebooth and deftones logo on it. i've been searching everywhere and cant find the image.. it's pretty dope to me, though its a fake cover..
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jun 07, 2011, 04:43 PM
Really? I find the opening so much more bludgeoning than the opening of moana. Lovers just explodes and never let's up. Definitely a bigger guitar sound. The soft intro of moana goes on too long. How the he'll is lovers mellow and sweet? We're talking about the same song right?
the moana intro is scary and gives the listener a hint of that something bad is about to happen... and then BAM, it strikes and unleach hell in your face. i think Moana is much more vicious ,mean sounding and attacking while lovers is more of a dreamy song. I've had this discussion with defmkjkj22 and also hidalgo (who think they can can put lovers just about anywhere without it affecting a carefully chosen order of songs "hey it's a good song just put it in there, st sucks so it doesn't matter where") so i think i've said it all. it's cool that a song can sound so different in our ears though :) ??? :)
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 07, 2011, 09:51 PM...
i seen it on the old deftonesworld.com i think. but then i lost it.
mtv.ca is the canadian site.
Starting to sound like a 2012 album. Gonna write on their downtime, then finish touring, then go in to record or write some more, whatever comes of it.
Shit.. I didn't realize that they've got almost 2 months of downtime between tours.. Lots of time to write a new album if they have the momentum.
Then they tour until September 3rd, so after that, it's either more writing or maybe recording... so.. might be an early 2012 record.
In this video, when they are talking about Chi, they show a picture of someone THAT ISN'T CHI. MTV are fucking amateurs.
Quote from: Inkblades on Jun 10, 2011, 04:56 PM
In this video, when they are talking about Chi, they show a picture of someone THAT ISN'T CHI. MTV are fucking amateurs.
hahaha, yeah what the fuck!
da fuck is this guy????
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y86/def_korn/Screenshot2011-06-10at60454PM.png)
Maybe that's his brother?
Quote from: shine down unshy on Jun 10, 2011, 11:03 PM
Maybe that's his brother?
possibly but during the segment it was pretty obvious they thought it was chi.
Deftones reminisce about Warped Tour 1995 2006-03-11 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mCaSfKTm94#)
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 07, 2011, 09:51 PM...
shit i remember that with the tattoo kind of patternation around it
Quote from: iceache on Jun 10, 2011, 03:29 PM
Then they tour until September 3rd, so after that, it's either more writing or maybe recording... so.. might be an early 2012 record.
LOL
the grammy they got for Elite
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/251674_2120597141223_1434643292_2450378_8210262_n.jpg)
Chino interview at golden god awards.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-google&v=vGzP2_0iOmw (http://m.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-google&v=vGzP2_0iOmw)
in german so most of the interview is useless to me but there are some pretty awesome live shots.
Deftones - 09-29-2003 Interview + Some Live Set @ Columbiahalle, Berlin, Germany [PROSHOT] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsmnjJ2g5qY#)
god damn it i want it all
Some rare stuff from SNW era...
Chi and Frank
http://www.starpulse.com/Music/Deftones/Videos/?vxChannel=Music+Interviews&vxClipId=877227&clip_id=&video_title=Deftones+interview+part+1+-+video (http://www.starpulse.com/Music/Deftones/Videos/?vxChannel=Music+Interviews&vxClipId=877227&clip_id=&video_title=Deftones+interview+part+1+-+video)
Yea, the 3rd video seems to be messed up.
thank you very much vesanic, that's much better...
very serious interview...
nothing new here. guy obviously doesn't give a shit about them. typical lame interview.
Interview with Deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHOaLz-iml4#ws)
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 29, 2011, 01:20 PM...
whoa, somebody knows the date of the interview? I think is the Chi last one, at the moment
Adlercast Deftones Interview (Brian Adler interviews with Chi and Frank)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLFbCNzV5WQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS5_1uL48gM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8dkchE_8Jk&feature=related
here's 3 pics of chino i took when i saw them a couple months ago at best buy theater in manhattan
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6029/5899364095_7a466cb292_z.jpg)
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6012/5899362393_3cf02183a5_z.jpg)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5159/5899927104_f7bca62e3f_z.jpg)
machete! meow it refers to suicide girls isn't it?
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 29, 2011, 01:20 PM...
that interview was a little bit suss!
frank mumbles a lot as usual. I found myself tilting the head with my ear against Frank's face on the screen to hear him. it's just that i have the sound in speakers on the other side of the room so that's fucking stupid. anyway frank didn't seem to like that guy, looked away demonstratively when he shook hands with him at the end. i like how chi speaks his mind and doesn't give these "correct" boring answers
Quote from: chino17 on Jul 04, 2011, 07:41 PM
machete! meow it refers to suicide girls isn't it?
nah, it's from this reggaeton song from like 2005 or something
oh sorry! occipudding ! but you should see these models on www.suicide (http://www.suicide) girls.com !!
Deftones Interview - ALL THE RAGE TV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmuWfBwzqFU#ws)
Not sure if this has been posted yet. It's from today. http://thehundreds.com/ (http://thehundreds.com/)
crosses in early august. nice.
I cant find the link to listen to the interview.
"The show went off without a hitch. Chino talks about current music he's listening to, new music he's working on, the importance of the Deftones windbreaker, the Deftones Nike Dunk, and what's the right way to rock a pair of Dickies. Episode should be up in a couple weeks, be patient!"
Early Aug, so much sooner than I thought!! :D
I think this quote is better..
"And then afterwards we piled into his car and became the first people in the world to not only know about, but LISTEN to, Chino's newest project, which he's unveiling at the start of August. If you're a Deftones fan, you won't be disappointed. If you're not a Deftones fan, well, you're about to be."
Chi being himself haha:
DEFTONES NEW ALBUM ALMOST BROKE UP BAND (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnDO_CehNX0&feature=relmfu#)
Everyone go to the Side project board and check out the new Crosses teaser.
http://thehundreds.com/blog/2011/08/02/episode-3-chino-moreno/ (http://thehundreds.com/blog/2011/08/02/episode-3-chino-moreno/)
Skip to the 20 minute mark or listen to the most boring 20 minutes of radio ever.
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/362707991.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1312421550&Signature=BJzWWzFfRRtEAwB2gT%2FeCKZ47v8%3D)
Deftones' Chino Moreno Describes The Band's "Pretty Intense" Album - Lollapalooza 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5iKAXOy-4c#ws)
Deftones at Lollapalooza: From Chile to Chicago - Lollapalooza 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kbLVxKKU_k#ws)
I'll be there tonight.... No opener, Just straight Tones for 2 hours. Hoping they bust out Combat. Either way it's gonna be sick
Deftones Discuss Eros and Diamond Eyes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxW5rt7DM9U#ws)
Sterogum (http://stereogum.com/777092/artist-polaroids-from-lollapalooza-2011/top-stories/lead-story/attachment/img_0094-3/) gave the guys a poloroid camera at Lolla this weekend, and these are what came of it.
(http://cdn.stereogum.com/files/2011/08/IMG_00941-608x633.jpg)
(http://cdn.stereogum.com/files/2011/08/IMG_00931-608x627.jpg)
(http://cdn.stereogum.com/files/2011/08/IMG_00911-608x625.jpg)
(http://cdn.stereogum.com/files/2011/08/IMG_00871-608x632.jpg)
(http://cdn.stereogum.com/files/2011/08/IMG_00831-608x625.jpg)
(http://cdn.stereogum.com/files/2011/08/IMG_00811-608x624.jpg)
http://www.artistdirect.com/entertainment-news/article/deftones-talk-diamond-eyes-writing-music-in-a-short-time-frame-more-sex-tape-and-more/9042284 (http://www.artistdirect.com/entertainment-news/article/deftones-talk-diamond-eyes-writing-music-in-a-short-time-frame-more-sex-tape-and-more/9042284)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/262990_10150757030600305_614385304_19931822_783401_n.jpg)
Haha I totally forgot about that. Nice one :)
Ha ha, nice one indeed
"Deftones lead singer Chino Moreno is a womanizer who cheats on his wife and he has a huge ego. He likes to play head games with women, and he usually lies and sneaks around to get with women he wants. Chino is also said to have a Jekyll & Hyde personality: he portray himself as a womanizing player or a good faithful husband, depending on who you talk to. "
source: http://www.groupiedirt.com/ (http://www.groupiedirt.com/)
LOL LOL
Dude...seriously?
What the fuck with this website !?!???
Such thing does exist !????
http://www.rocksound.tv/blog/article/youve-never-seen-this-side-of-jared-leto-before (http://www.rocksound.tv/blog/article/youve-never-seen-this-side-of-jared-leto-before)
Chino on the cover, I'd love if, once it comes out, the article gets scanned & posted.
Urgh.
(http://www.rocksound.tv/images/uploads/152cover.jpg)
Quote from: chaka.chaka on Aug 08, 2011, 07:26 PM
Sterogum (http://stereogum.com/777092/artist-polaroids-from-lollapalooza-2011/top-stories/lead-story/attachment/img_0094-3/) gave the guys a poloroid camera at Lolla this weekend, and these are what came of it.
(http://cdn.stereogum.com/files/2011/08/IMG_00941-608x633.jpg)
(http://cdn.stereogum.com/files/2011/08/IMG_00931-608x627.jpg)
(http://cdn.stereogum.com/files/2011/08/IMG_00911-608x625.jpg)
(http://cdn.stereogum.com/files/2011/08/IMG_00871-608x632.jpg)
(http://cdn.stereogum.com/files/2011/08/IMG_00831-608x625.jpg)
(http://cdn.stereogum.com/files/2011/08/IMG_00811-608x624.jpg)
Is that Chino in the first pic?
Yes.
Is it just me or does he look a lot skinnier there than how he looks on stage? Although he looks to be in decent shape either way.
Dunno, I don't really look at pctures of him topless. Some people think he may have actually put some weight back on. The mirror could be making him look skinnier, mine does that.
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Aug 16, 2011, 04:44 PM
http://www.rocksound.tv/blog/article/youve-never-seen-this-side-of-jared-leto-before (http://www.rocksound.tv/blog/article/youve-never-seen-this-side-of-jared-leto-before)
Chino on the cover, I'd love if, once it comes out, the article gets scanned & posted.
30 Seconds To Mars & Deftones – An epic bro down between Jared Leto and Chino Moreno in which they talk about their careers in music, their friendship, their lost song and the future of both of their bands!
http://www.rocksound.tv/magazine (http://www.rocksound.tv/magazine)
In bold.
Quote from: iceache on Aug 17, 2011, 05:14 PM
30 Seconds To Mars & Deftones – An epic bro down between Jared Leto and Chino Moreno in which they talk about their careers in music, their friendship, their lost song and the future of both of their bands!
http://www.rocksound.tv/magazine (http://www.rocksound.tv/magazine)
In bold.
30STM with Chino? I'm curious about that..
Quote from: pony_01 on Aug 17, 2011, 06:48 PM
Quote from: iceache on Aug 17, 2011, 05:14 PM
30 Seconds To Mars & Deftones – An epic bro down between Jared Leto and Chino Moreno in which they talk about their careers in music, their friendship, their lost song and the future of both of their bands!
http://www.rocksound.tv/magazine (http://www.rocksound.tv/magazine)
In bold.
30STM with Chino? I'm curious about that..
well chino has guested with 30STM before so not that crazy. pretty sure the two bands are friends. at least friends enough to appear onstage and do interviews together.
yeah, i wonder what greg from d.e.p. thinks about that. he hates leto, but is friends with chino.
http://www.theprp.com/2011/08/17/news/deftones-and-30-seconds-to-mars-frontmen-alleged-to-have-lost-song/ (http://www.theprp.com/2011/08/17/news/deftones-and-30-seconds-to-mars-frontmen-alleged-to-have-lost-song/)
The newly released issue of "Rock Sound" magazine may be of particular interest to Deftones and 30 Seconds To Mars fans. Not only do the frontmen of both outfits grace the cover, but the preview for it (http://www.rocksound.tv/news/article/18-reasons-to-buy-rock-sound-issue-152) makes mention of the pair having a "lost song".
Wait, does Greg Puciato know about this (http://www.theprp.com/2011/03/04/news/the-dillinger-escape-plan-frontman-lambastes-30-seconds-to-mars-jared-leto/)?. Anyway, expect more details when someone gets their hands on the issue. I'm looking at you, Sharing Lungs...
;D
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 18, 2011, 02:16 AM
http://www.theprp.com/2011/08/17/news/deftones-and-30-seconds-to-mars-frontmen-alleged-to-have-lost-song/ (http://www.theprp.com/2011/08/17/news/deftones-and-30-seconds-to-mars-frontmen-alleged-to-have-lost-song/)
The newly released issue of "Rock Sound" magazine may be of particular interest to Deftones and 30 Seconds To Mars fans. Not only do the frontmen of both outfits grace the cover, but the preview for it (http://www.rocksound.tv/news/article/18-reasons-to-buy-rock-sound-issue-152) makes mention of the pair having a "lost song".
Wait, does Greg Puciato know about this (http://www.theprp.com/2011/03/04/news/the-dillinger-escape-plan-frontman-lambastes-30-seconds-to-mars-jared-leto/)?. Anyway, expect more details when someone gets their hands on the issue. I'm looking at you, Sharing Lungs...
;D
LOL, That's a pretty good name drop on a pretty decently sized site :p
the scan please ;)
Quote from: pony_01 on Aug 18, 2011, 08:08 AM
the scan please ;)
i second that.
For some reason am sure the lost song thing is about 30 seconds to mars ... comon deftones a lost song? nah they have to first complete them in order to lose them :p
i kid i kid
Quote from: Balthazard on Aug 18, 2011, 08:18 AMFor some reason am sure the lost song thing is about 30 seconds to mars
It is.....
Just scanning/uploading for all you cheap bastards.....
Quote from: defsteve on Aug 18, 2011, 11:01 AM
Just scanning/uploading for all you cheap bastards.....
ah i love sharingungs.. :D thank you steve!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/defsteve/deftones/img042.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/defsteve/deftones/img043.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/defsteve/deftones/img044.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/defsteve/deftones/img045.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/defsteve/deftones/img046.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/defsteve/deftones/img047.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/defsteve/deftones/img048.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/defsteve/deftones/img049.jpg)
thanks :)
thanks defsteve!
Thanks indeed
Deftones' Chino Moreno interview with Dave Lawrence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcxySGPvxys#)
Took place before their show in Hawaii.
DVD! Yes Please. ;D
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 18, 2011, 03:38 PM
Deftones' Chino Moreno interview with Dave Lawrence[/url]
thanks for posting as always. the only dvd they've released - chino hasn't watched? is that information trustworhty?
if it is, he should watch it.maybe go "damn we need to get a better one out"
Thank you steve, you just helped a lot of people who can't buy this magazine due to Country's distribution. I don't think rocksound even reaches south-américa. I'd like to post it on deftones.com.ar with your credit on it, if you agree.
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Aug 18, 2011, 05:38 PM
Thank you steve, you just helped a lot of people who can't buy this magazine due to Country's distribution. I don't think rocksound even reaches south-américa. I'd like to post it on deftones.com.ar with your credit on it, if you agree.
a LOT of people!
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Aug 18, 2011, 05:38 PM
Thank you steve, you just helped a lot of people who can't buy this magazine due to Country's distribution. I don't think rocksound even reaches south-américa. I'd like to post it on deftones.com.ar with your credit on it, if you agree.
No worries dude.
Random fact, 30STM first album was produced by Bob Ezrin. IMO, that was their best album. A Beautiful Lie was alright, and This Is War was pretty generic, which is probably why they're really famous now. Well "The Kill" really launched them into mainstream status. Now they rarely play any of their songs from their 1st album as if it never existed.
30 Seconds To Mars - Behind The Scenes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhiBAaxPtdM#)
/rant
Quote from: from_musings on Aug 18, 2011, 04:49 PM
thanks for posting as always. the only dvd they've released - chino hasn't watched? is that information trustworhty?
if it is, he should watch it.maybe go "damn we need to get a better one out"
Haha well he did say he remembers the performance wasn't really good.
His voice was in bad shape and he probably remembers it. but he did his interview solo, isn't he even interested in seeing how others handled their business? imean it was a product that was about to be sold in the name of deftones, not giving a shit about it? amazing
n/m. pulled a n00b move and posted an interview i had already posted before.
haha that was great. I don't think memory loss is something noobs are known for though ^
Quote from: from_musings on Aug 19, 2011, 01:06 PM
haha that was great. I don't think memory loss is something noobs are known for though ^
maybe i need to start laying off the weed a bit.
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy20/from_musings/weedmademedoit.jpg)
Quote from: sing blue silver on Aug 19, 2011, 01:39 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Aug 19, 2011, 01:06 PM
haha that was great. I don't think memory loss is something noobs are known for though ^
maybe i need to start laying off the weed a bit.
Now that's just crazy talk.
i don't know. you just can't live your life like memento guy
There was a Justin Bieber fan at their performance at Area 4 today:
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/378123174.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1313874914&Signature=pC42k%2F5bRSgpGSildU1DMHUYr6M%3D)
Pytanie na śniadanie - Wywiad z zespołem Deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_6CiShOXrw#ws)
Can't get a fucking word from that.
Chino's talking about being in Poland for the first time, about his wive's brother in law being Polish and celebrating polish holidays (yeah, right -.-), about polish moscitos :P
the interviewer asked if the name of the band means breaking through the silence with the noise (wtf?).
and the usual shit, sth about songs' meanings.
Chino's been smoking angel dust again XD
god damned poland man
(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee461/billy6650/chinomeme.png)
Usual stuff, and an Eros-related question. Abe says again that it was almost finished.
Deftones: Започваме да работим по нов албум (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7FNAk2mnJA#)
Another interview:
http://www.wdr.de/tv/rockpalast/extra/konzerte/2011/0819/index.jsp?mid=432731 (http://www.wdr.de/tv/rockpalast/extra/konzerte/2011/0819/index.jsp?mid=432731)
Deftones - Interview (White Pony Release Party 2000) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv6gWpbVCXc#)
Cool long interview, WP release-dated.
Kerrang! Podcast: Deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJC99pCI7rc#ws)
Deftones at Reading Festival 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HceD1R16fAc#)
I'm glad they seem really serious about starting new material in October. Hopefully the work ethic caries over and we don't have a long wait. It'd be nice to get a quick and drama free recording process from the guys for once. BRING BACK TERRY!!!!
Another interview from Reading Festival. Chino added the Firework part to 7 Words because... Stef loves her.
Brick were shat.
http://www.nme.com/nme-video/deftones---we-want-to-work-with-prince/1131066777001 (http://www.nme.com/nme-video/deftones---we-want-to-work-with-prince/1131066777001)
Stephen loves Katy Perry and Chino loves bluegrass. Gotta admit, that is pretty surprising.
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 27, 2011, 06:00 PM
Another interview from Reading Festival. Chino added the Firework part to 7 Words because... Stef loves her.
Brick were shat.
http://www.nme.com/nme-video/deftones---we-want-to-work-with-prince/1131066777001 (http://www.nme.com/nme-video/deftones---we-want-to-work-with-prince/1131066777001)
hahaha they want work with Prince
Quote from: luisch on Aug 27, 2011, 06:28 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 27, 2011, 06:00 PM
Another interview from Reading Festival. Chino added the Firework part to 7 Words because... Stef loves her.
Brick were shat.
http://www.nme.com/nme-video/deftones---we-want-to-work-with-prince/1131066777001 (http://www.nme.com/nme-video/deftones---we-want-to-work-with-prince/1131066777001)
hahaha they want work with Prince
Well that's no surprise. They've been saying that countless times for years now.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Aug 27, 2011, 06:37 PM
Well that's no surprise. They've been saying that countless times for years now.
yeah, i would be more surprised if they stopped saying that.
it's cool that new white pony interviews are being released like that.lol at chino's face 14:20.and he looked good in greasy long hair
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http://www.rocksound.tv/tv/article/reading-and-leeds-2011-shorts-deftones (http://www.rocksound.tv/tv/article/reading-and-leeds-2011-shorts-deftones)
More than a hundred scans (White Pony era) in my website : http://deftones-archives.com/articles.php (http://deftones-archives.com/articles.php)
Quote from: down_in_a_hole on Aug 30, 2011, 07:00 PM
More than a hundred scans (White Pony era) in my website : http://deftones-archives.com/articles.php (http://deftones-archives.com/articles.php)
. Wow nice collection !
http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4143433-a-lot-of-people-have-grown-up-with-us-dis-meets-deftones (http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4143433-a-lot-of-people-have-grown-up-with-us-dis-meets-deftones)
"A lot of people have grown up with us" - DiS meets Deftones
Ahead of their sold-out headline show at London's Shepherd's Bush Empire, DiS meets Deftones' Frank Delgado (electronics) and Sergio Vega (bass). Each joined the band at pivotal moments since their 1988 inception – Delgado, who pops a fresh beer as soon as we sit down, when the Californian band took an experimental direction for 2000's highly regarded White Pony album; and Vega when it was apparent original bassist Chi Cheng would not recover from a 2008 car accident to rejoin the band. They're both in good spirits as their band brings the curtain down on their excellent sixth LP, Diamond Eyes, released in May 2010 to great acclaim. As drummer Abe Cunningham bounces between dressing rooms, a grin fixed on his face – he's clearly looking forward to tonight's show – we take five to discuss the pair's contributions to Deftones as we know them today.
Mike Diver, DiS: America produces all of these fine beers, and you choose that?
F: Well, I've just started drinking beer...
Well, Coors Light is a good way in, I suppose, since it tastes of nothing.
F: I know, I know, it tastes of piss. Would you like one?
No, no. Thanks though. I thought, since you two gentlemen have joined me, I'd ask about the times when you each joined the band – as both were very important stages for the development and progress of Deftones. Frank, I know you were involved with the band before, but you became a 'full' member when the band was putting together the White Pony record, right?
F: Yeah, that's right. And Sergio had played with them too, of course.
Yeah I know, when you were touring Around the Fur, I think?
S: Yeah, in 1999. When Chi couldn't play. And then I came in again this time, because of what happened to him.
So do either of you remember getting 'the call' – that moment when you were in the band, for real?
F: I guess I sorta remember. But me and these guys go back a long way. I'd moved to Sacramento from LA as I'd followed a girl there; I met Chino (Moreno, vocals) within a couple of weeks of living there and we just hit it off. We started hanging out a lot, and he invited me down to their rehearsal space, after initially meeting me at a club I was DJing at. So I brought my gear down and we started jamming, essentially, with me playing around with soundscapes or making a bassline... So that's how it started. Then they got their record deal, and invited me to be on a couple of songs on Around the Fur. I finished my parts and after that they said, "Quit your job and come on the road with us." I talked it through with my girlfriend – my wife now – and she told me to go, and I haven't looked back. We bonded, and we all wanted to make this really cool music. We played every shit-hole when touring Around the Fur, but we were laying a foundation. So when we started writing for White Pony, we all knew we wanted to try something different. We felt like there was a window for us to create something new – and I really wanted to be able to add something to the band without it coming off like a DJ scratching up a bunch of shit over a rock band.
And there were certainly a few of those around at the time. Naming no names, of course.
F: Right, and what they were doing, the music they were writing... it wasn't for us. There was no room for us to fake it. For me, I had to figure out how, without being able to play an instrument, to stay in a song. So I played with Stephen's (Carpenter, guitar) pedals, and I figured out how to sustain a note and pitch it, change it and play it. And this was before bands had access to the kind of technology they do now. So, on a song like 'Change (In the House of Flies)', I worked out how to be involved in it, using my shit – and as technology has improved I've been able to integrate myself more and more.
So come Diamond Eyes, I guess technology had reached a point where you could bring almost anything to the table?
F: Absolutely, and I could do it without breaking my back. I can have everything on my computer now. But I did a lot of sampling of Stephen, and then I'd twist it. I've been using Ableton since its inception, and it's my thing. But back when we did White Pony, people were expecting us to go in certain direction – so we went in another one. We trusted our instincts, and we've always believed in ourselves. And we've been thankful for the openness in the group. On White Pony we had really aggressive songs and really soothing songs, and I think we're gradually bringing the two together in a single song. We're still learning, too.
So Sergio, when the band was making this transition, from Around the Fur to White Pony, were you looking on as a fan?
S: Well, that was around the time I was filling in. We met on the first Warped Tour, when I was playing in Quicksand. Somebody told me to check them out, so I did and they were awesome, and then I got to meet them and they were cool cats. Then in 1999 I filled in for Chi for a month, and what stood out was just how excited everyone was to be in this band. The shows were great, and everyone seemed so committed. It was really cool, being part of that. And then when I got the call this time... It was weird, because it was the first time I'd heard about what'd happened to Chi. So on that level, it sucked. It was very upsetting – but I also felt very honoured that they'd called me.
And was it important to you to not look to fill Chi's shoes, but to bring something different to the table – to not be a 'replacement', but an extra member of the band?
S: Well, I think the first thing was to be a friend. This band has always been like that – friends first, I think.
F: We really didn't know, after Chi's accident, if we'd ever make another record. But we had this one show booked, and as it was getting closer we decided we were going to play it instead of cancelling it. So we got together and talked about what we were going to do, and I already knew who I wanted to call. And we all agreed. So Sergio came to see us, and we jammed, and it felt really good. We wrote a song and a half that night – 'Royal', on the record, was written that night.
S: And part of 'Prince', too.
F: So we realised: we can do more than just this show. We hadn't spoken about the possibility of doing more before he showed up; but afterwards we knew he was amazing. He came over again, to practise for the show, and within a week of that we were in LA writing what became Diamond Eyes. It could have gone nowhere, but songs came every day. Two months later, it was all done. It was a good feeling, and we were in a new creative space. It produced a whole new ball of energy. And we've just kept going, since that day Sergio first showed up.
Was it a hard decision for you, Sergio, joining full time? As it means spending a lot of time away from friends and family with these guys...
S: Well, I'd done it before in previous bands, and with them – and I knew from touring with them before that they were great people. So in that respect it was a no-brainer. But I did have to sort it out at home. I was DJing at home, and playing a lot of parties, so in terms of work I didn't have much to keep me there. But I did have to sort a few things with my family. The circumstances were such that the decision was very easy though – like I said, I did feel that it was an honour to be asked. And the situation was horrible, so of course I wanted to help. It's always been that way – whatever these guys want, I'll try to provide it.
F: We had no idea if he'd say yes. We knew what he was doing, as we'd go to see him DJing here and there. But we didn't know if he'd want to get on the road again. Maybe he didn't want to play bass, or even be in a band? So there were all kinds of questions around, but we all wanted him to join us. We hit it off so well back in 1999 – really, we had a blast. We were opening for Black Sabbath back then...
So, no pressure Sergio...
S: Ha ha, I had about a day and a half to learn the parts...
F: But he was a soldier. And we finished that tour.
S: I'd been in bands before, but I'd never come into someone else's band like that. So learning someone else's parts was a whole new thing. And playing those songs... For me, playing live is a joy. It's awesome when everybody's playing really well.
This feels like the end of the Diamond Eyes cycle – the album having come out back in May 2010. Given the problems the band faced, and the prospect of never even releasing another LP, its success must have smashed any expectations?
F: Oh, as soon as we had that record done, I knew – we all knew – it was really good, and we couldn't wait to unleash it. It just feels good doing this, you know? We're taking chances, doing the stuff we like, and it translates. It might sound selfish, but we really do make the music that we like, over the music that people might have liked us for doing previously.
And why is it that people who picked up Adrenaline on day one, in 1995, still follow the band? It doesn't happen for everyone.
F: I think that a lot of people have grown up with us. They've had their first girlfriend, they've had a lot of the experiences we're writing about, and maybe they've had a divorce or something. They find the song that suits them, that speaks to them about their own situation. Some people grow out of things – but once you get to a certain age and have experienced so much, you realise that all the music you have ever loved has a place in your life. And I think those that have followed us for so long, they recognise that we do take these chances. I think that's the common denominator between our records. I think they dig us for that reason, and that's cool.
there you go:
http://areena.yle.fi/video/1314787566513 (http://areena.yle.fi/video/1314787566513)
Hahahaha.
" Drugs. "
http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/music/interviews/Deftones+interview-98616.html (http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/music/interviews/Deftones+interview-98616.html)
http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/immaculate-noise/posts/interview-deftones-shine-off-diamond-eyes-tour-sites-set-on-next-album (http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/immaculate-noise/posts/interview-deftones-shine-off-diamond-eyes-tour-sites-set-on-next-album)
Review : http://www.clashmusic.com/live-review/deftones-live-at-shepherds-bush-empire (http://www.clashmusic.com/live-review/deftones-live-at-shepherds-bush-empire)
Gallery : http://www.clashmusic.com/photos/deftones-live-at-shepherds-bush-empire (http://www.clashmusic.com/photos/deftones-live-at-shepherds-bush-empire)
i heard that there is an interview were chino struggled to talk about chi and he shed a tear?
which is that interview?
Quote from: defsteve on Sep 02, 2011, 12:18 PM
Review : http://www.clashmusic.com/live-review/deftones-live-at-shepherds-bush-empire (http://www.clashmusic.com/live-review/deftones-live-at-shepherds-bush-empire)
Gallery : http://www.clashmusic.com/photos/deftones-live-at-shepherds-bush-empire (http://www.clashmusic.com/photos/deftones-live-at-shepherds-bush-empire)
(http://i.imgur.com/6FoEJ.jpg)
Quote from: 100Modem on Sep 02, 2011, 08:59 PM
Quote from: defsteve on Sep 02, 2011, 12:18 PM
Review : http://www.clashmusic.com/live-review/deftones-live-at-shepherds-bush-empire (http://www.clashmusic.com/live-review/deftones-live-at-shepherds-bush-empire)
Gallery : http://www.clashmusic.com/photos/deftones-live-at-shepherds-bush-empire (http://www.clashmusic.com/photos/deftones-live-at-shepherds-bush-empire)
(http://i.imgur.com/6FoEJ.jpg)
Uh.. what haters?
Quote from: cesar421 on Sep 02, 2011, 08:43 PM
i heard that there is an interview were chino struggled to talk about chi and he shed a tear?
which is that interview?
this one
http://areena.yle.fi/video/1314787566513 (http://areena.yle.fi/video/1314787566513)
Quote from: vinsanity on Sep 02, 2011, 09:41 PM
this one
nice interview. sergio got crazy mad rabies eyes when the interviewer asked if he considered himself a stand in or a member.. what's up with that? i don't find it any wierd to ask about that, i think it's interesting to know how he picture himself after a time being in the band. looking all psycho and shit, chill out sergio
so.. anybody else who thinks it was wrong of the interviewer to not call for sequrity when sergio started to act like a mad man? i think sergio should be removed from the studio by two gorilla persons from the second he began acting threatful. if a member, of any band, can't answer normal legit questions without acting like a nutcase - then don't do interviews. yes it's that simple. i can help sergio with the right obvious answer though :
serg:"obviously, chi is the bassplayer for deftones - always will be no matter what happens.period. i'm a friend of the band and it was natural for me to be the stand in cause i helped out before but i was just a stand in back then too,just like now. i just can't sit here and say i'm the bassplayer of deftones, that would be stupid. i just help out as a friend while we all wait for him to come back"
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 03, 2011, 11:56 AM
so.. anybody else who thinks it was wrong of the interviewer to not call for sequrity when sergio started to act like a mad man? i think sergio should be removed from the studio by two gorilla persons from the second he began acting threatful. if a member, of any band, can't answer normal legit questions without acting like a nutcase - then don't do interviews. yes it's that simple. i can help sergio with the right obvious answer though :
serg:"obviously, chi is the bassplayer for deftones - always will be no matter what happens.period. i'm a friend of the band and it was natural for me to be the stand in cause i helped out before but i was just a stand in back then too,just like now. i just can't sit here and say i'm the bassplayer of deftones, that would be stupid. i just help out as a friend while we all wait for him to come back"
Crack is whack man.
i don't even smoke but i like the way it smells
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 03, 2011, 09:51 AM
Quote from: vinsanity on Sep 02, 2011, 09:41 PM
this one
nice interview. sergio got crazy mad rabies eyes when the interviewer asked if he considered himself a stand in or a member.. what's up with that? i don't find it any wierd to ask about that, i think it's interesting to know how he picture himself after a time being in the band. looking all psycho and shit, chill out sergio
BETTER BEST CRY EVER (SHOOP DA WHOOP) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiJ-cpP6Guw&feature=related#ws)
Hi!Here is some pics from DEFTONES Moscow concert 3rd of september
(http://headbanger.ru/fmst/files/data/67213.JPG)
All photos here
http://headbanger.ru/reports/4831?show_images=1 (http://headbanger.ru/reports/4831?show_images=1)
Photos by Dmitry "Ward" Kulikov
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Quote from: vinsanity on Sep 02, 2011, 09:41 PM
Quote from: cesar421 on Sep 02, 2011, 08:43 PM
i heard that there is an interview were chino struggled to talk about chi and he shed a tear?
which is that interview?
this one
http://areena.yle.fi/video/1314787566513 (http://areena.yle.fi/video/1314787566513)
Can you pls rip that shit, doesn't load for me?
Quote from: wheresmysnare on Sep 03, 2011, 01:24 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 03, 2011, 09:51 AM
Quote from: vinsanity on Sep 02, 2011, 09:41 PM
this one
nice interview. sergio got crazy mad rabies eyes when the interviewer asked if he considered himself a stand in or a member.. what's up with that? i don't find it any wierd to ask about that, i think it's interesting to know how he picture himself after a time being in the band. looking all psycho and shit, chill out sergio
BETTER BEST CRY EVER (SHOOP DA WHOOP) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiJ-cpP6Guw&feature=related#ws)
i think sergio is just tired of people always asking for that
I dunno about you guys but I consider Sergio a full fledged deftones member.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Sep 06, 2011, 05:19 PM
I dunno about you guys but I consider Sergio a full fledged deftones member.
no doubt. I have for a while now.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Sep 06, 2011, 05:19 PM
I dunno about you guys but I consider Sergio a full fledged deftones member.
chi's been playing in deftones for about 20 years, they grew up together, from boys to men.chi also was a part of building up the band during all those years and was a part of creating the magic within the band. i find it hard to digest that a stand in bassplayer jump in and help out for 2 years and now is a full blown bassplayer just like that.i don't think i like sergio. just something about him that doesn't feel "deftones" to me. oh well
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 06, 2011, 06:47 PM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Sep 06, 2011, 05:19 PM
I dunno about you guys but I consider Sergio a full fledged deftones member.
chi's been playing in deftones for about 20 years, they grew up together, from boys to men.chi also was a part of building up the band during all those years and was a part of creating the magic within the band. i find it hard to digest that a stand in bassplayer jump in and help out for 2 years and now is a full blown bassplayer just like that.i don't think i like sergio. just something about him that doesn't feel "deftones" to me. oh well
nobody could ever take chi´s place but think sergio is a cool dude and a full deftoner.
Quote from: mothraw on Sep 07, 2011, 03:38 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 06, 2011, 06:47 PM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Sep 06, 2011, 05:19 PM
I dunno about you guys but I consider Sergio a full fledged deftones member.
chi's been playing in deftones for about 20 years, they grew up together, from boys to men.chi also was a part of building up the band during all those years and was a part of creating the magic within the band. i find it hard to digest that a stand in bassplayer jump in and help out for 2 years and now is a full blown bassplayer just like that.i don't think i like sergio. just something about him that doesn't feel "deftones" to me. oh well
nobody could ever take chi´s place but think sergio is a cool dude and a full deftoner.
Indeed, Chi can't be replaced, but I think Sergio do a good job, is for me a Deftones member
btw, someone can share the pic of the band in a music store, Chino got a bottle in his hand and appear Chi, Abe and Stef on the background, WP era, I lost so many of my pics and I really want that picture again, if is possible in good quality
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 06, 2011, 06:47 PM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Sep 06, 2011, 05:19 PM
I dunno about you guys but I consider Sergio a full fledged deftones member.
chi's been playing in deftones for about 20 years, they grew up together, from boys to men.chi also was a part of building up the band during all those years and was a part of creating the magic within the band. i find it hard to digest that a stand in bassplayer jump in and help out for 2 years and now is a full blown bassplayer just like that.i don't think i like sergio. just something about him that doesn't feel "deftones" to me. oh well
I actually agree with you on this. Weird right? But yeah, love Quicksand, love Sergio in Quicksand. Just not in Deftones. I'm not just saying that cuz I'm a bassist, I'd say the same if Abe as replaced by Danny Carry or if Steph was replaced by Page Hamilton
This is a really interesting and sensitive subject about Sergio....it probabaly deserves its own thread.
Betting everyone would have an opinion on this...Just a thought.
Start a thread, I'll go on for days about this. To me Sergio just fits. He can never truly replace Chi but under the circumstances I wouldn't want anyone else up there.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Sep 07, 2011, 07:13 PM
Start a thread, I'll go on for days about this. To me Sergio just fits. He can never truly replace Chi but under the circumstances I wouldn't want anyone else up there.
Yes!
Cuz he was a dtone when he played the sabbath tour and he is a dtone cuz they wanted him in the band.no sergio -no deftones.
Chi is not here so who should it have been?
O L F C
Hmmm he was never intended to replace Chi. Chi is the bassist of Deftones. Sergio played bass on Diamond Eyes and will continue to tour and record in the studio with the band until Chi is well enough to play again. Everyone knows this. There is no reason to dislike Sergio really, he does his own thing and when the time comes for him to step down he will.
Quote from: Starz on Sep 07, 2011, 09:02 PM
Hmmm he was never intended to replace Chi. Chi is the bassist of Deftones. Sergio played bass on Diamond Eyes and will continue to tour and record in the studio with the band until Chi is well enough to play again. Everyone knows this. There is no reason to dislike Sergio really, he does his own thing and when the time comes for him to step down he will.
Do you think Chi would really go back to playing with the deftones? :/ I'm sure when he eventually comes out of his coma, he'll see things in a totally new perspective and have different priorities in life. Being the humanitarian he if, he'll be grateful for all the good vibes and support but I honestly don't think he'll return to the band. and that's a fair choice in my book
Deftones - Interview on MTV 2003 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPf8YnXpH1Y#)
Interview Chi and Frank (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bsy_yxp1gQE&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLFEB49C609854132F#)
Another cool interview, Chi Cheng and Frank Delgado... Saturday Night Wrist era...
Deftones @ Allomusic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HVxtRuqsek#ws)
I guess that was shot at Rock en Seine
Questions are:
Are you focused on the end of your or another project ?
You never worry about Chino's voice ?
We're talking more and more about a live DVD...
Sergio, do you feel like a real full-time Deftones member ?
Coud you give us your current playlist ?
Have you lied during this interview ?
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 15, 2011, 06:58 PM
Deftones - Interview on MTV 2003 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPf8YnXpH1Y#)
freaking germans ya wit ze deftones who maken ze rock and roll music
KaaosTV Episode #72: Deftones Interview @ The Circus 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxMNn1sCwFo#)
They mention Sharing lungs and nuno. Decent interview...
how can I remove this empty comment? :)
http://www.nme.com/news/nirvana/59296 (http://www.nme.com/news/nirvana/59296)
here you can watch chino choose his favourite nirvana song; surprisingly unsurprising, Smells like teen spirit.
Available NOW :) Interview done by me. There is a mention about Charing Lungs and Nuno :)
KaaosTV Episode #72: Deftones Interview @ The Circus 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxMNn1sCwFo#)
Quote from: downtownpony on Sep 20, 2011, 03:37 PM
KaaosTV Episode #72: Deftones Interview @ The Circus 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxMNn1sCwFo#)
They mention Sharing lungs and nuno. Decent interview...
I love how Abe shouts out Sharing Lungs after calling Lovers by its original name, but he fucked it up ;)
Quote from: niina_ on Sep 21, 2011, 11:49 AM
Available NOW :) Interview done by me. There is a mention about Charing Lungs and Nuno :)
KaaosTV Episode #72: Deftones Interview @ The Circus 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxMNn1sCwFo#)
Quote from: downtownpony on Sep 20, 2011, 03:37 PM
KaaosTV Episode #72: Deftones Interview @ The Circus 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxMNn1sCwFo#)
They mention Sharing lungs and nuno. Decent interview...
thanks alot for that! SL and for the first time ever they mention me. It really means alot for an "old man" like me!
Quote from: Drop-Dead on Sep 22, 2011, 12:02 AM
Quote from: niina_ on Sep 21, 2011, 11:49 AM
Available NOW :) Interview done by me. There is a mention about Charing Lungs and Nuno :)
KaaosTV Episode #72: Deftones Interview @ The Circus 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxMNn1sCwFo#)
Quote from: downtownpony on Sep 20, 2011, 03:37 PM
KaaosTV Episode #72: Deftones Interview @ The Circus 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxMNn1sCwFo#)
They mention Sharing lungs and nuno. Decent interview...
thanks alot for that! SL and for the first time ever they mention me. It really means alot for an "old man" like me!
hahaha. i think they said "old fan".
also is lovers not what we think it is or something? is there another song they know as lovers that we've never heard?
Quote from: niina_ on Sep 21, 2011, 11:49 AM
Available NOW :) Interview done by me. There is a mention about Charing Lungs and Nuno :)
KaaosTV Episode #72: Deftones Interview @ The Circus 2011 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxMNn1sCwFo#)
People can be mean as hell, but I think for the shout out you're cool with everyone now.
Gotta thank Nina for accepting to mention sharinglungs, never thought you would !
And it's pretty cool how they mention Nuno. I mean, it's not like they're like " Yeah it's that one guy from Portugal, can't remember him clearly... ", nah, they straight up say Nuno as if they were talking about a good friend, that was dope. Happy for you, bro !
Quote from: sing blue silver on Sep 22, 2011, 12:34 AM
hahaha. i think they said "old fan".
also is lovers not what we think it is or something? is there another song they know as lovers that we've never heard?
Frank: He's an old fan.
Abe: He's very old. He's an old man.
About Lovers, I know the " real " title was supposedly Kevin Sorbo, as posted on their MySpace back then, not Brian Dennehy. But I think they mean the same song anyway.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 22, 2011, 01:45 PM
About Lovers, I know the " real " title was supposedly Kevin Sorbo, as posted on their MySpace back then, not Brian Dennehy. But I think they mean the same song anyway.
what the hell
is this a joke
if it's not, that's awesome as shit
Nope, it's not a joke.
http://www.bandsvideos.com/board/index.php?topic=1769.0 (http://www.bandsvideos.com/board/index.php?topic=1769.0)
I think I remember the Brian Dennehey thing from long ago, I think it was just another name for Lovers too
Little story about the band from Big Day Out 2003 at 8:32:
BIG DAY OUT VAULT PIECES (2003) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9GAgkdi1iw#)
Deftones and Orange Amps (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzT9Nu2Fx8w#ws)
BlackDiamondSkye dated.
Found this interview on Vimeo but it's dubbed in Russian... If DefAlx could do something for us... ;)
Deftones Moscow (http://vimeo.com/29484990)
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 02, 2011, 11:17 PM
If DefAlx could do something for us... ;)
Thanks Vesanic. I was looking for this video, but unsuccessful. Ok, i'll try later. They spoke about Crosses, unreleased DVD, previously and current shows in russia and a little bit more. Stupid reporter says "Damond Eyes" instead "Diamond Eyes" :) Or is it me only who hear it?
Video begins with all this bullshit. Man tells that Deftones was in Russia 10 years ago first time, and he was there. Then girl says that she was 12 when deftones came in Moscow in 2001, and now she's 22 and able to be here.
Chino:
Yeah we remember our first show in Moscow. it was unreal and amazing. We came into the other side of the world, far away from home and saw crowd which sang along with us. they knew all our texts and responded to all our songs. And our last year show was like something weird. It's my lovely crowd all over the world.
I like some witch house music, but it's stupid name like nu-metal, just another label. It isn't witch house what we recorded, it's more like a post-rock, there's many synths but it's not a witch house, it's just new project that i made with couple of my friends just for fun. It's not a record that i just must to do, it's kind of my hobby. I think it's cool when everybody starts your own side-projects. To play music is much better than to play computer games. It is not matter if we're making music together or one by one, it's just funny pastime. Playing the music you can recognise new sides of yourself and it is a really good experience...
We were going to record live DVD, we wanted to capture this album because today is the last day of Diamond Eyes tour, then we're going to home and we'll write new songs, but we had no time to organize operators, sound engineers and all techical crew. It could be cool, as i previously said, russian people is one of my lovely crowd, however they don't always understand words of song, they feel pulse of the show, they understand when is chilling time and when is moshing time. Very dinamic crowd, and i like it.
We're still an undeground band. We pretty much known, but we never had this big success and worldwide hysteria, you know. We don't play often on TV and radio. People need to look for our music, that's why because we're undeground band.
Well, i didn't translate words of russian correspondent (sometime they just stupid), there's only Chino's answers.
Hope you're pleased. And sorry for my english just in case
Is there something new for you?
it's ok, we understood everything, thanks axl.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 28, 2011, 10:31 AM
Little story about the band from Big Day Out 2003 at 8:32:
BIG DAY OUT VAULT PIECES (2003) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9GAgkdi1iw#)
BDO 2003 is one of my favorite Deftones gig's ive found out about on youtube.
Love the Deftones 2003 era video's
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lt77j7XdNv1qhvra2o1_500.jpg)
Easy, boy
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 17, 2011, 11:17 PM
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lt77j7XdNv1qhvra2o1_500.jpg)
Where do you find these pics
tumblr
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 22, 2011, 09:21 AM
tumblr
hey!!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/308733_265782633456078_100000730296182_915886_995654908_n.jpg)
another pic of a teenager chino from his facebook
Yeah, Luis finds those pics on tumblr.
Nick Raskulinecz gonna produce the new album
http://audioinkradio.com/2011/10/new-alice-in-chains-deftones-album-confirmed (http://audioinkradio.com/2011/10/new-alice-in-chains-deftones-album-confirmed)
darth vader says NOOOOOOO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tim5nU3DwIE#ws)
motherfucker
do pictures of deftones @ roskilde '96 exist? If yes, please post some.. :)
http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4143830-an-album-of-the-year-2000-11yrson--deftones-white-pony (http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4143830-an-album-of-the-year-2000-11yrson--deftones-white-pony)
Deftones Interview @ Download Festival 2006 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNhEQIwLplg#ws)
Abe & Frank @ Helsinki, Finland 8/30/2011:
http://www.voice.fi/index.php?option=com_sbsfile&tmpl=audiovideo&cid=11015 (http://www.voice.fi/index.php?option=com_sbsfile&tmpl=audiovideo&cid=11015)
Pretty cool.
WHITECHAPEL interview | awkward fans | the first to go... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV1VegcsVXQ#ws)
Whitechapel guitarist talks about their collab with Chino.
VH1 Classic's Metal Evolution - Nu-Metal - Deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_8Ql86-rTc#ws)
DEFTONES 1998 Montreal, live footage + interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca6HzLa40oE#)
Stef C at NAMM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq_WI35y6M8#ws)
Haha
(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs13/f/2007/018/6/7/Chino_Moreno_and_his_mom_by_SleepyPrincess.jpg)
(http://distilleryimage5.instagram.com/5b60912c4ee611e180c9123138016265_7.jpg)
"Break time. And no.. They're not drum gloves"
They're still hard at work it seems :)
They must be playing without Chino, right?
LOL Abe looking like Bret "Hit Man" Hart.
Quote from: Inkblades on Feb 04, 2012, 04:25 AM
They must be playing without Chino, right?
LOL Abe looking like Bret "Hit Man" Hart.
I'd assume so. Must be practicing or writing and he'll probably hear it when he gets back.
lol, nice one. ;D
i think i saw on tumblr that that's his mom or something. idk, could be wrong.
(https://p.twimg.com/Ak26RYRCEAIjeuT.jpg)
Watching things bounce
I hope he doesn't fill in vocals later, hope theyre just jotting ideas. Please let this be a cohesive family matter. :-\ :D
diamond eyes was a cohesive family matter
nuff said
That is his mom. I talked to her at the Crosses show on Saturday.
About what??? Has she heard Eros or anything? ::) lol
Quote from: Penicks on Feb 05, 2012, 10:08 AM
diamond eyes was a cohesive family matter
nuff said
K, so what do u mean? I know that, it's a good thing just a different album. They need to do this together bc I think Stephen needs Chino to make things right sometimes when they argue. Not sure if u liked DE or not, but the way they did it had nothing to do with it being a shitty record. Musically it was good, just not as good as others and not everyone's favorite. I just think they need to stick together on it and limit Crosses to do this and have Chino there too.
s
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Feb 06, 2012, 09:33 PM
About what??? Has she heard Eros or anything? ::) lol
Ha no. Chino was standing next to us in on the side of the crowd watching Dawn Golden (opener) with his mom and his son. We struck up a short convo. That's all. ;-)
DEFTONES interview with Chino and Chi Cheng on 54321 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWGCE8hgR30#ws)
Sorry if this has been posted already http://www.100megsfree.com/pop/marloncheri/DEFTONES%20ARTICLE%20PAGE.html (http://www.100megsfree.com/pop/marloncheri/DEFTONES%20ARTICLE%20PAGE.html)
Quote from: ponyx on Feb 19, 2012, 08:52 PM
Sorry if this has been posted already http://www.100megsfree.com/pop/marloncheri/DEFTONES%20ARTICLE%20PAGE.html (http://www.100megsfree.com/pop/marloncheri/DEFTONES%20ARTICLE%20PAGE.html)
Thanks
When did B-real make an appearance on White Pony? does it have something to do with the song on B-sides and Rarities?
OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE Chino put off collaborating with the other artists on the Snot- Strait up Record! Why?!
Quote from: juvenile on Feb 20, 2012, 12:38 AM
Quote from: ponyx on Feb 19, 2012, 08:52 PM
Sorry if this has been posted already http://www.100megsfree.com/pop/marloncheri/DEFTONES%20ARTICLE%20PAGE.html (http://www.100megsfree.com/pop/marloncheri/DEFTONES%20ARTICLE%20PAGE.html)
Thanks
When did B-real make an appearance on White Pony? does it have something to do with the song on B-sides and Rarities?
OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE Chino put off collaborating with the other artists on the Snot- Strait up Record! Why?!
If I'm right, he appear on Black Moon, on the B-side & Rarities album
Sorry, that whole thing I mean every single article was corny and a lot of it wasn't legit at all. Before WP drops, this guy is asking questions that hint he's already heard it. WTVS, thanks for posting but that was garbage and i'M 20 mins. older now, lol :-\ :-\
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so there's one song off diamond eyes we still havent heard.. interesting.
Quote from: iceache on Feb 22, 2012, 11:35 PM
so there's one song off diamond eyes we still havent heard.. interesting.
Well Vesanic heard it in sound check. The song's name is Coby (Working title) and it was played live? Im sure Abe was just messing...
Quote from: juvenile on Feb 23, 2012, 12:01 AM
Quote from: iceache on Feb 22, 2012, 11:35 PM
so there's one song off diamond eyes we still havent heard.. interesting.
Well Vesanic heard it in sound check. The song's name is Coby (Working title) and it was played live? Im sure Abe was just messing...
I don't think it's been played anywhere but in soundcheck.
Unfortunately the live guide doesn't have ALL the correct setlists but most of them at any rate, and if that song had been played at one of the other shows, I'm sure we'd have heard about it. Could be wrong though. And yeah, I've heard it in a soundcheck.
Quote from: Vesanic on Feb 23, 2012, 03:12 PM
Unfortunately the live guide doesn't have ALL the correct setlists but most of them at any rate, and if that song had been played at one of the other shows, I'm sure we'd have heard about it. Could be wrong though. And yeah, I've heard it in a soundcheck.
I agree. If the song was played, it would have surfaced somewhere. Notice how abe gave a working title so it could be a bluff. I'll run a search though anyway.
There was song Kobe when they publish the songlist from the studio when they began recording.
Deftones exclusive backstage interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zcxs88UBJg#ws)
don't know if anyone's posted this. i haven't seen it.
Can someone post some pics from the video My Own Summer with Chino screaming?
Quote from: richardro on Feb 26, 2012, 07:28 AM
Can someone post some pics from the video My Own Summer with Chino screaming?
(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee461/billy6650/omgchinoimadomg.png)
2009
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^^^ Abe looks so different
Quote from: luisch on Feb 27, 2012, 02:40 AM
2009
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They used that picture in Kerrang with a quote from Chino saying "I miss my friend, I want him back."
Quote from: BillyNo.9 on Feb 27, 2012, 03:40 AM
Quote from: luisch on Feb 27, 2012, 02:40 AM
2009
They used that picture in Kerrang with a quote from Chino saying "I miss my friend, I want him back."
Yeah, this is the pic, one of the first band photo since the Chi accident
From the Jim Dunlpop Guitar Products facebook page
Dig it... Deftones. Great band. Rare picks.
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even when blurred, stephen's teeth almost steal the focus.
Can someone post some pics from My Own Summer ?
Quote from: richardro on Mar 01, 2012, 02:12 PM
Can someone post some pics from My Own Summer ?
Why not watch the video and make screenshots???
http://www.deftones.com/content/patron-sessions-1bottle-1song (http://www.deftones.com/content/patron-sessions-1bottle-1song)
What does this mean?
4 songs done?
Quote from: richardro on Mar 01, 2012, 02:12 PM
Can someone post some pics from My Own Summer ?
Quote from: BillyNo.9 on Feb 26, 2012, 10:43 PM
Quote from: richardro on Feb 26, 2012, 07:28 AM
Can someone post some pics from the video My Own Summer with Chino screaming?
(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee461/billy6650/omgchinoimadomg.png)
Again.
Cool, sounds like the tentative name of the record is Patron. Good vibe! Also, anyone know who they're working with yet? Have they dropped any clues I could have missed besides the obvious from previous interviews from the summer tour on who they would "like" to work with? I hope they get away from Nick sorta. ???
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Mar 02, 2012, 09:14 AM
Cool, sounds like the tentative name of the record is Patron. Good vibe! Also, anyone know who they're working with yet? Have they dropped any clues I could have missed besides the obvious from previous interviews from the summer tour on who they would "like" to work with? I hope they get away from Nick sorta. ???
Most likely its Nick, he said it himself I think. There was an article on this sometime ago.
Sorry brah gotta wait for Eros or the next record :P
Nick will be the one on board, he mentionned it in an interview.
And Patron is a tentative name of a song, I think.
Judging by that picture though, I'd have to think that "Patron" could be both a name of a song, because of those whiteboard pictures, but also the tentative name of the record, like the last album. It says "Patron Sessions", wouldn't that say they're sessions for an album? And what do they mean by that? Have they finished 4 songs, like, they're recorded and ready to go? or they've just written them and played them until they got them finialized and they're ready to go in the studio with them.
You're right, I'm really dumb.
Quote from: hole-in-the-earth on Mar 02, 2012, 04:08 PM
Judging by that picture though, I'd have to think that "Patron" could be both a name of a song, because of those whiteboard pictures, but also the tentative name of the record, like the last album. It says "Patron Sessions", wouldn't that say they're sessions for an album? And what do they mean by that? Have they finished 4 songs, like, they're recorded and ready to go? or they've just written them and played them until they got them finialized and they're ready to go in the studio with them.
Id say 4 confirmed songs but it could be 8 song..4 haven't been named yet and rattling in Stephen's brain..*chuggah chuggah chuggah*
Guess I read "Patron sessions" wrong :-\
Like father, like son:
Deftones 7 Words Live @ Ace Of Spades 6/14/11 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBaNDGlcTUo#ws)
Chino and his youngest son Jakobi on stage together.
And congratulations to the newlyweds :D - they look pretty cute!:
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0rn12NlRu1qzsba1o1_500.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0jyuzi7u31qb04wdo1_500.jpg)
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0jwxuSVHq1qb04wdo1_500.jpg)
congrats chino
Various pictures I've found on a friend's Tumblr (http://cameosmadebythetiger.tumblr.com).
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m196ylfafN1r3cz10o1_400.jpg)
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Since when Frank started to be on the band's promo pics? he wasn't on the ATF promo pic and as far as i know he has been with the band since ATF.
i don't think chino likes what he's drinkin when abe's playing air guitar. i know he's favourite is vodka and gatorade so it must be something else. maybe stef took a piss in it
Great and rare photos!! some of them are quite emotional. Love the one with the ATF background.
that site in your sig is gay, no one would watch that crap.
Quote from: nugz on Mar 26, 2012, 02:53 AM
that site in your sig is gay, no one would watch that crap.
Haha are you for real?
18:35 - 22:53
Interview of Sergio and Abe, during the last North American tour I think.
Season 2 Episode 6 AUTV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D-_NGZpFu0#ws)
More good news about Eros. Could someone find anyone of the members saying it won't come out? Can't say I have. ;) Thanks V, Thanks ABE!!!!!! And for these times we talk about the band being in a dark place in the past... I don't think Abe was there! haha, My man is NEVER down it seems. He's the most chipper guy I've ever witnessed my entire life! I envy him for that alone. :)
ESP Guitars: Stephen Carpenter (Deftones) Interview 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K12pCKPE34#ws)
OUT by Summer 2012? Wow.
I don't know what to believe anymore.
I'd take stephens word over chinos nowadays.
I was thinking the same exact thing...lol.
I mean, if they're done writing, and chino's only got that Chile gig with Crosses.. There's no reason for them to not go into the studio real soon and record.
Quote from: iceache on Mar 31, 2012, 12:41 AM
I mean, if they're done writing, and chino's only got that Chile gig with Crosses.. There's no reason for them to not go into the studio real soon and record.
chino's honeymoon..
Quote from: Millennia on Mar 31, 2012, 12:47 AM
Quote from: iceache on Mar 31, 2012, 12:41 AM
I mean, if they're done writing, and chino's only got that Chile gig with Crosses.. There's no reason for them to not go into the studio real soon and record.
chino's honeymoon..
No one takes a 4 month honeymoon lol
Quote from: iceache on Mar 31, 2012, 01:00 AM
Quote from: Millennia on Mar 31, 2012, 12:47 AM
Quote from: iceache on Mar 31, 2012, 12:41 AM
I mean, if they're done writing, and chino's only got that Chile gig with Crosses.. There's no reason for them to not go into the studio real soon and record.
chino's honeymoon..
No one takes a 4 month honeymoon lol
hahaha
Quote from: Inkblades on Mar 30, 2012, 09:30 PM
OUT by Summer 2012? Wow.
Maybe he meant to say Summer 2013 but just forgot what year it was...
I don't think they will be ready to
release an album this summer. Perhaps they will have finished it though.
Either way, we're not going to be waiting as long as we did between SNW and DE. :D
Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 30, 2012, 09:24 PM
ESP Guitars: Stephen Carpenter (Deftones) Interview 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K12pCKPE34#ws)
"I got my first real seven-string
Bought it at the five-and-dime
Played it 'till my fingers bled
was the summer of 99" :D
sounds 'cut'
finished.. n out :P
he means;
we hope to have the drums, guitars, bass, synths recorded in the summer... then chino will fuck with it.. :P
I hope it drops this year just to shut a couple people the fuck up! ;D ;D ;D
Previously Unreleased "Golden Gods" Interview With DEFTONES' Chino Moreno! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KoN8MBbQjo#ws)
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 13, 2012, 12:12 AM
Previously Unreleased "Golden Gods" Interview With DEFTONES' Chino Moreno! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KoN8MBbQjo#ws)
Nothing fancy but at least a new album this year.
Quote from: Vesanic on Mar 30, 2012, 09:24 PM
ESP Guitars: Stephen Carpenter (Deftones) Interview 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K12pCKPE34#ws)
"there's the sixth string. when you play on a seven string, that's one more - one more string. on a 8 string - that's two more strings" - can anyone double check and verify this information?
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haha ironically when I saw this I started laughing out loud and sounded just like him...
ah ha ha ha
edit: well maybe not ironically, but coincidentally...
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Quote from: sing blue silver on Apr 13, 2012, 09:42 PM
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haha ironically when I saw this I started laughing out loud and sounded just like him...
ah ha ha ha
edit: well maybe not ironically, but coincidentally...
The crazy shit I see on this board. Stunning :D
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;D Nah, not bad at all...Now lick up all that menstruation Chino!!!! ;D
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Apr 24, 2012, 08:17 PMNow lick up all that menstruation Chino!!!! ;D
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;D I hope that wasn't really hateful or too forward.... was for a laugh or gag, however u take it. ;) ;D U never know
Interview with Chino Moreno - Mexico City - 2.3.2007 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2ecvRiN-Lc#)
Quote from: Vesanic on May 25, 2012, 11:45 AM
Interview with Chino Moreno - Mexico City - 2.3.2007 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2ecvRiN-Lc#)
What an eye opening interview, good find. Some quick facts:
-Chino wrote the first song on SNW name "Pink Cellphone" and wanted to make SNW all electronic but the idea wouldn't happen.
-Bob Ezrin was aiming for a more "pop sound" and shorter songs which adds to why they stopped working together. Chino wanted to expand of them and make them longer. Good for him and EROS (known for having longer songs and a lot more going on in them.) :)
-Someone from the label was actually present in the studio when the band or Chino was working with Bob Erzin.
-This wasn't the case with Shaun as the label later approved the stuff Chino worked on with him.
-Steph was open to the idea of writing an album with beats and synthesizers ( maybe we can hear some of it in Eros?)
-Chino's distaste for record contracts.
-Chino not caring about sales and expectations. Just wants to make records for fun and good music. Good for us!
I guess this also explains why Bob Ezrin is so popular and produced hit selling albums. Record labels like his approach, "Make money for us" hahah. So happy SNW retained as much of its sophisticated elements.
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Quote from: snw9 on May 25, 2012, 08:22 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on May 25, 2012, 11:45 AM
Interview with Chino Moreno - Mexico City - 2.3.2007 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2ecvRiN-Lc#)
What an eye opening interview, good find. Some quick facts:
-Chino wrote the first song on SNW name "Pink Cellphone" and wanted to make SNW all electronic but the idea wouldn't happen.
-Bob Ezrin was aiming for a more "pop sound" and shorter songs which adds to why they stopped working together. Chino wanted to expand of them and make them longer. Good for him and EROS (known for having longer songs and a lot more going on in them.) :)
-Someone from the label was actually present in the studio when the band or Chino was working with Bob Erzin.
-This wasn't the case with Shaun as the label later approved the stuff Chino worked on with him.
-Steph was open to the idea of writing an album with beats and synthesizers ( maybe we can hear some of it in Eros?)
-Chino's distaste for record contracts.
-Chino not caring about sales and expectations. Just wants to make records for fun and good music. Good for us!
I guess this also explains why Bob Ezrin is so popular and produced hit selling albums. Record labels like his approach, "Make money for us" hahah. So happy SNW retained as much of its sophisticated elements.
We wont be hearing Eros for a very long time.
Deftones - Interview in The Warehouse, Toronto on July 2000. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzxV8gv7VH4#)
In relation to one point in that video, I remember thinking just before White Pony came out and how cool/odd/different that name was. I was in college at the time studying art and seeing the artwork etc was a pretty big deal.
Heard from my Bro that Revolver has a write up on the new album...looking now..
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Jul 03, 2012, 09:20 PM
Heard from my Bro that Revolver has a write up on the new album...looking now..
yess
So?
I bet that without even reading it I can predict it. It'll be 2 paragraphs that says basically "Deftones have completed recording the follow up to 2010's Diamond Eyes and hope to have it out fall this year. The album is yet untitled." followed by a quote from Chino about how it's dynamic, lush and reminds him of White Pony. There. I saved you from reading it.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jul 04, 2012, 02:47 PM
I bet that without even reading it I can predict it. It'll be 2 paragraphs that says basically "Deftones have completed recording the follow up to 2010's Diamond Eyes and hope to have it out fall this year. The album is yet untitled." followed by a quote from Chino about how it's dynamic, lush and reminds him of White Pony. There. I saved you from reading it.
;D
lol
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jul 04, 2012, 02:47 PM
I bet that without even reading it I can predict it. It'll be 2 paragraphs that says basically "Deftones have completed recording the follow up to 2010's Diamond Eyes and hope to have it out fall this year. The album is yet untitled." followed by a quote from Chino about how it's dynamic, lush and reminds him of White Pony. There. I saved you from reading it.
Ha.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jul 04, 2012, 02:47 PM
I bet that without even reading it I can predict it. It'll be 2 paragraphs that says basically "Deftones have completed recording the follow up to 2010's Diamond Eyes and hope to have it out fall this year. The album is yet untitled." followed by a quote from Chino about how it's dynamic, lush and reminds him of White Pony. There. I saved you from reading it.
seems legit
Quote from: Vesanic on Jul 04, 2012, 02:44 PM
So?
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MAYHEM FEST 2012 , PLUS THE MOST EXTREME BANDS EVER!
Venture inside the twisted minds of the bands on this year's Rockstar Energy Drink Mayhem Festival, including Slipknot, Slayer, Motörhead, Anthrax, As I Lay Dying, the Devil Wears Prada, Asking Alexandria, Whitechapel, Upon a Burning Body, I the Breather, and Dirtfedd. Plus, in honor of the tour's most extreme coheadliners yet, Revolver assembles our list of the most extreme rockers and bands of all time: From the issue's cover stars, Slipknot and Slayer, to Rammstein, Cannibal Corpse, and more!
ADDITIONAL FEATURES:
- Linkin Park
- Hellyeah
- Dethklok, Lamb of God, and Gojira, on their upcoming tour
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Deftones- Serj Tankian
- The Walking Dead
- Metal Mulisha founder and pro motocross rider Brian Deegan
- Baroness
PLUS: The Agonist, God Forbid, The Ghost Inside, Crucified Barbara, Davey Suicide, Nachtmystium, comic-book artist Greg Capullo,
Is that Magazine from July or August?
Quote from: cesar421 on Jul 06, 2012, 02:15 AM
Is that Magazine from July or August?
I'd say its the August issue.. meaning it should be on news stands now
Thanks, Steve.
Im listening the new Linkin Park album. it has only 1 good song. poppy but good. the rest is terrible.
Deftones doing great on those bands. Korn, Lb, Muse... Only Deftones is doing better.
I coulda told you the new linkin park was garbage without ever hearing it. That band is based solely on being talentless bandwagon hoppers with no originality or creativity.
im not gonna give even a chance next time
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jul 06, 2012, 03:22 PM
I coulda told you the new linkin park was garbage without ever hearing it. That band is based solely on being talentless bandwagon hoppers with no originality or creativity.
LOL their last album, my friend played it for me... if they didn't tell me it was Linkin Park.. I would never have known. It was just a bunch of sounds... with words.
Quote from: iceache on Jul 06, 2012, 05:31 PM
LOL their last album, my friend played it for me... if they didn't tell me it was Linkin Park.. I would never have known. It was just a bunch of sounds... with words and without guitar&drums
fixed
From the latest issue of Revolver Magazine
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'Roller Derby' and 'Flashback' tentative tracks names
FUCK. ME. IM. EXCITED.
i'm really scared actually, hopefully the sound scape is much deeper and layered than diamond eyes
Chino playing guitar in 10 of 13 songs, hmm
Quote from: vinsanity on Jul 10, 2012, 10:09 AM
Chino playing guitar in 10 of 13 songs, hmm
Atleast it prevents him from dancing like in HITE :D Nah he seems quite fluent with the guitar nowadays, but don't expect them to bring the heavy shit back, though :(
Even if its not Adrenaline or AtF heavy, it's still going to be heavy as fuck. I have faith in them 100%. I do find it hilarious that Chino doesn't know what the lyrics are about. I can see it now... Interviewer- "Chino can you explain the meaning behind the song Roller Derby?"... long pause...Chino- *shrugs shoulders*.... Interviewer- "Ummmmm ok then"
This sounds great.
Everything sounds great about this album.
So 3 months to go ha?
"The heaviest song on the yet untitled record is tentatively called Roller Derby and it's fueled by caprenter's rugged 8 string guitar work and multiple tempo shifts"
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"Moreno compares it to Rocket Skates on Diamond Eyes"
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chino in 10 out 13 songs, sounds like soft songs or "pussy songs" like the man himself calls them. but when they play royal or combat for example, steph and chino simultaneously work together with their guitars so it can still be kinda heavy - a song could go either way if you look at that description alone. he did mention 2 songs and the sound of them but what i'm curious about is how many songs are "heavy" and what general feeling,to him, this record gives as a whole. is it as optimistic as d.e or did it ran off in another direction? still, i'm happy about not knowing. it's a cool move from chino to mostly focus on the song writing instead of the sound of the record as a whole when the "explain the music" question was popped . keeps it interesting in a not knowing way. for me anyway. thanks for posting this!
it's kinda weird to know chino write lyrics that he didn't know what it is about. he's totally stoned while writing the lyrics lol
Quote from: vinsanity on Jul 10, 2012, 10:09 AM
Chino playing guitar in 10 of 13 songs, hmm
i bet the other 3 songs is the heaviest
Quote from: pony_01 on Jul 10, 2012, 02:49 PM
it's kinda weird to know chino write lyrics that he didn't know what it is about. he's totally stoned while writing the lyrics lol
i guess he feels that he has nothing special to say, so he uses his voice as an instrument instead . I've looked at it like that since the get go. couple of cool phrases here and there but nothing more. but it's fine by me
Quote from: pony_01 on Jul 10, 2012, 02:53 PM
Quote from: vinsanity on Jul 10, 2012, 10:09 AM
Chino playing guitar in 10 of 13 songs, hmm
i bet the other 3 songs is the heaviest
i dont like very much that idea
Like with anything I'm looking forward to my excitement rises and falls as the release date approaches. I think the record has come together a little too fast, but I also have faith in their music. I mean rarely have I been able to find a band that can play some of the heaviest music, and do it well, while still being able to make softer songs that are good too. While DE was a bit plain compared to previous efforts, it still had its heavy moments. Those wishing for an ATF or Adrenaline sequel are going to be disappointed. Hell if anyone is wishing for that, then I have to think that you've been disappointed for many years. I do like how he mentioned 13 songs though. I don't know why but that seems like a chance that the record may be more dynamic than DE was. No matter what it turns out to be I still consider them to be head and shoulders better than most bands out there today. Never in my entire life have I heard so much shit music going around.
it will never be a adrenaline or atf again, but I don't think they will ever abandon their heavy side entirely. chino's probably very tired of the screaming stuff, but it's a business. they know most of the money comes from concerts and if they do an album that is soft from start to finish, many longtime fans who grew up and dig the aggro stuff and are still with them could stay home from a show,almost like a protest. "yep, that's it they've lost it - R.I.P" they must add some heavy songs to not lose them and then do 2-3 radio hits that's easy listening, poppy and some super soft ones to get new fans. that's the idea of deftones nowadays. one interesting question for me is how many heavy songs they will go for this time. not saying it's automatically good just bc it's heavy nor it's bad bc it's soft, but it's a good start for me
Quote from: pony_01 on Jul 10, 2012, 02:49 PM
it's kinda weird to know chino write lyrics that he didn't know what it is about. he's totally stoned while writing the lyrics lol
lol half the lyrics he writes are that way.. they just don't make sense.
I told you at ''hexagram lyrics thread'' even they dont know whats the song about.
Hey we have 2 song name
Flashback = sextape
Roller = Rocket
Quote from: Millennia on Jul 10, 2012, 08:26 AM
FUCK. ME. IM. EXCITED.
QFT. Jammy? I'm liking the sound of this. I love Chino's guitar style, so that mixed in with Steph's assault sounds perfect.
13 tracks nice
13 tracks is even a lot for Deftones. Still can't wait October! 8)
13 tracks is awesome and will be a very rewarding for us fans.. I really hate the fact that people bitch about "soft" songs. We havent heard anything yet and even if they are on the soft side so what?! The Deftones are good with dynamics and if they had straight CHUG CHUG CHUG all the time there really wouldnt be a vast range of soundscapes for them to explore... Just be thankful they are focused as a whole unit in the band and are happy and making genuine music together...
Well, I'm excited. I love the mix of heavy and soft, and I love Chino's writing style; it's usually abstract and a "snapshot" as he calls it. He usually writes by just letting the music or his thoughts or feelings influence him, and at the time he doesnt know what it's about because he's just feeling it, but later on wen he can see it frm the outside, it can be interpreted different ways. I'm sure that's how he usually writes, so I'm happy with this. Also, I like his guitar-playing, and if he and Stephen are working together with less tension, it can only be a good thing.
Quote from: TheShade1989 on Jul 10, 2012, 08:43 PM
I love Chino's writing style; it's usually abstract and a "snapshot" as he calls it. He usually writes by just letting the music or his thoughts or feelings influence him, and at the time he doesnt know what it's about because he's just feeling it, but later on wen he can see it frm the outside, it can be interpreted different ways. I'm sure that's how he usually writes, so I'm happy with this
or... chino's got a big ass aquarium with sea cows that push around idea balls with words
Quote from: cvthedrv on Jul 10, 2012, 03:07 PM
Quote from: pony_01 on Jul 10, 2012, 02:53 PM
Quote from: vinsanity on Jul 10, 2012, 10:09 AM
Chino playing guitar in 10 of 13 songs, hmm
i bet the other 3 songs is the heaviest
i dont like very much that idea
Chino Played on Royal, that's a pretty aggressive track...not worried.
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Jul 10, 2012, 09:53 PM
Quote from: cvthedrv on Jul 10, 2012, 03:07 PM
Quote from: pony_01 on Jul 10, 2012, 02:53 PM
Quote from: vinsanity on Jul 10, 2012, 10:09 AM
Chino playing guitar in 10 of 13 songs, hmm
i bet the other 3 songs is the heaviest
i dont like very much that idea
Chino Played on Royal, that's a pretty aggressive track...not worried.
Combat!
Your right Luisch! Thanks for posting the article and congrats on 500...
haha stop name dropping songs that's already been mentioned,waste of time and space - help coming up with more examples instead. think!
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Jul 10, 2012, 10:18 PM
Your right Luisch! Thanks for posting the article and congrats on 500...
I hadn't noticed about my post!
Thank you, and my pleasure
Quote from: pony_01 on Jul 10, 2012, 02:53 PM
Quote from: vinsanity on Jul 10, 2012, 10:09 AM
Chino playing guitar in 10 of 13 songs, hmm
i bet the other 3 songs is the heaviest
I think we're going to get some good marketable singles off this record. Chino is great at writing mid-tempo, slow songs. I am honestly more eager to listen to the other 3 songs that he doesn't play guitar on. ITs the third record with the 8 string guitar and since we haven't heard Eros, I hope Stephen rips it hard on those 3 songs.....
Nonetheless, a potential sonic, musically aesthetic and creative record to look forward especially during the positive times the band is experiencing.
Hold up a second! We still have covers to get as well so in total we could expect 14-16 songs....:D
i really hope none of the 13 songs end up like the d.e outtake. if a track or two of those 13 end up on b-sides is fine, just don't put them away in the dark :(
de songs were pretty tricky.
they are all sounds great when you first hear..
This time im gonna listen the songs pretty carefully
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Jul 11, 2012, 01:32 PM
de songs were pretty tricky.
they are all sounds great when you first hear..
This time im gonna listen the songs pretty carefully
me too.but then again, i always do. why not always listen carefully to your favourite band, you know?
i bet billy's gonna listen extra carefully to vega's basslines...and if vega follows steph's guitar again, it won't be pretty around here
Chino playing on 10 of the songs further backs up my assumption of this being the softest Deftones record. We'll have 2 or 3 really heavy songs (heavy like royal or rocket skates, not like WGTB or their early work. Those days are done.) and the rest of the album will be mid-tempo groovy rock songs. I'm cool with that though. Honestly I get most excited about hearing Abe's work on a new record first. Any time I listen to a Deftones album for the first time I notice the drums before anything else. As long as Abe can keep me bobbing my head, I'll enjoy the new record.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jul 11, 2012, 01:48 PM
Chino playing on 10 of the songs further backs up my assumption of this being the softest Deftones record. We'll have 2 or 3 really heavy songs (heavy like royal or rocket skates, not like WGTB or their early work. Those days are done.) and the rest of the album will be mid-tempo groovy rock songs. I'm cool with that though. Honestly I get most excited about hearing Abe's work on a new record first. Any time I listen to a Deftones album for the first time I notice the drums before anything else. As long as Abe can keep me bobbing my head, I'll enjoy the new record.
abe's stuff is dope i love it too.. but mostly, when he clicks with steph's shit... it's not that i listen to phallucy just bc it's abe.
don't think anyone here digs his work that much :) i also agree about wgtb, i will be real suprised if they pull of a heavy song like that ever again. only chance is eros
Yes..Those days are done.
But its ok with me, too.
Whatever you do Deftones, just do it good then im ok with you.
True, every first Deftones song starts to hear some drums then riffs..
I think it's safe to say 13 songs = 10 or 11 original songs and 2 or 3 covers...
Quote from: from_musings on Jul 11, 2012, 01:09 PM
i really hope none of the 13 songs end up like the d.e outtake. if a track or two of those 13 end up on b-sides is fine, just don't put them away in the dark :(
My only worry too! Besides this possibly happening, I am geeked.
Can't forget..... seems that there is plenty of soundscaping and keys in this record as well.....lot's of pics of Frank n Steph on them and even some reading about it i think? Gotta love that. I would love a good electronic based song like Lucky again myself.... ::)
Interview with Chino in the latest Kerrang, July 11 2012
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wow..really exciting
Can i ask you something, what the hell is ''futuristic'' means?
Is it mean ''electronic'' or ''not white pony'' sound ?
Future is more computers dude.
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Jul 11, 2012, 11:43 PM
wow..really exciting
Can i ask you something, what the hell is ''futuristic'' means?
Is it mean ''electronic'' or ''not white pony'' sound ?
Future is more computers dude.
It's probably not what you think it means.
The entire record will be Mr. Roboto? :o
Its almost too good to be true, I can't wait for this album to drop
futuristic meaning new and innovative?
im so excited for this album, i dont think it will sound anything like DE, but i wont mind if it does :D
So I take from that article that some of the songs will be long? Hmmmm.
DOM MOE REGATO MISTER ROBOTO............domo
Deftones never disapoint EVER, THE FLAVOR OF THE BAND IS ALL THAT MATTERS!!!
Futuristic = Blade runner + new linkin park. lol
I'm a spaceship superstar! I got a solar powered laser beam guitar!!
I'm a nerd proffesor and i made a hot blonde robot-girl. But she dumped me
"Futuristic"
Prism - Spaceship Superstar (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdU_otNPl8M#)
"going to areas they haven't gone before......aggressive mixed with dreamy...... new sounds..... new songwriting methods.... songs structures in different cool ways" :o ....
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Looks like Chino is happy only because Steph is giving into the stuff he writes....lol nonetheless, the description of this album sounds fresh and exciting.
Quote from: snw9 on Jul 13, 2012, 04:00 AM
the description of this album sounds fresh and exciting.
yeah! almost sounds to good to be true. but i think chino was bad ass in that interview. if a car sales man is going to sell a car, and he only talk about it's positive qualities, it may give an impression of non-credibility.. like "um .. nothing is that good." However,if the seller says 2 slightly negative things,then the other, let's say 10 positive qualities, get a far more powerful impact and credibilty. whether what chino said is true or not, I think he did an excellent job in that interview. he speaks very positively about it, but because he also says that his lyrics doesn't really mean anything, some cool words here and there, so the listeners can fantisize up something themselves, to me honesty like that colours the other things said in that interview, it makes the musical description seem legit and therefore i'm getting pumped as fuck. he could easily say the lyrics mean something but won't tell, but he didn't. I'm impressed with him here, and even if there is no thought behind it, it makes him a cool confident guy to me, keeping his feet on the ground like that. dam.. that article you guys...
Heh I love the speculation around here. Some of you guys crack me up hahaha!
"Futuristic" and "dreamy", wonderful descriptive terms I like attached to describe the band. I'm excited for this shit! I wonder if they're going to go more with a shoegaze riffing approach with some 80's synth influence. Textures and ambiance. But, obviously in their sinister way.
crosses already does the 80's synth influence
I just want Deftones to use VOILIN for the first time.
They never did...
man,that's what i keep telling ya... eight chino projects on the side can affect deftones music and why you love it.
now you won't appreciate 80's sounds in deftones because crosses has a lot of it. it makes you wanting violins, and maybe you would absolutely love it in deftones, if they ever did it. but what if palms would use violins? then,if there will be another deftones record after this, you don't want violins because it has been done! although violins would make you love deftones even more, suddenly you stop wanting this.. because of side projects!
shutup musings
That wouldnt stop me wanting to hear violin in Deftones but you may be right.
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Jul 13, 2012, 02:58 PM
crosses already does the 80's synth influence
I just want Deftones to use VOILIN for the first time.
They never did...
So because of what Shawn did in Crosses, Frank or Sergio or ??? can't do in Deftones? Kinda lame. I want them to do whatever the fuck they want. Uninhibited and make the best album they can.
And yea... a violin and a cello would be bad ass. Those two can be strangely haunting and beautiful. That's why I love orchestral and classical music.
What's up with the anti Side Project banter? :o Let em do what they want to do, who cares.
There are 5 guys in the band. I'm sure they all have their own influence to bring in and if I know anything about Deftones they're not gonna let Chino call ALL shots. Also this sounds like a very collaborative effort so I expect all of their personalities to come through. Maybe there will be a hit of what Chino does in his side projects but run that through the 4 other members and it could come out completely fresh and different.
"we're not trying to compact songs into 3,5 minutes because we want the songs to go wherever they want"
this + the other descriptions of the song writing seem rather unusual and out of the ordinary for them... a little... unorthodox .
since not 1 person here think it will be a dark record, does this mean it will be a "happy eros" ? :o yes.. i'm actually comparing two records i haven't heard..
Quote from: from_musings on Jul 14, 2012, 09:13 PM
yes.. i'm actually comparing two records i haven't heard..
This sort of shit right here. Stop it.
Good to see my scan is getting good use. Anyone else think Chi deserves more than a tiny footnote with incorrect information..
Quote from: TheShade1989 on Jul 10, 2012, 08:43 PM
I like chinos guitar-playing, and if he and Stephen are working together with less tension, it can only be a good thing.
i'd like to think so too. but then again,s/t and wp, (wp which is your favourite record) was born under tension and some "working seperately", and they ended up fine.just saying
Quote from: BillyNo.9 on Jul 14, 2012, 09:31 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Jul 14, 2012, 09:13 PM
yes.. i'm actually comparing two records i haven't heard..
This sort of shit right here. Stop it.
that's not for you to decide ;)
Am I the only one here who thinks that "futuristic" and "aggressive mixed with dreamy" are all descriptions they've used before, more or less? That said, I'm not saying he's lying or anything, and I can understand that he's saying the songs are longer and more free-flowing, not compact or simplified, so that's very cool, and I am very excited.
Quote from: TheShade1989 on Jul 14, 2012, 11:41 PM
Am I the only one here who thinks that "futuristic" and "aggressive mixed with dreamy" are all descriptions they've used before, more or less? That said, I'm not saying he's lying or anything, and I can understand that he's saying the songs are longer and more free-flowing, not compact or simplified, so that's very cool, and I am very excited.
i think its you
Quote from: TheShade1989 on Jul 14, 2012, 11:41 PM
Am I the only one here who thinks that "futuristic" and "aggressive mixed with dreamy" are all descriptions they've used before, more or less? That said, I'm not saying he's lying or anything, and I can understand that he's saying the songs are longer and more free-flowing, not compact or simplified, so that's very cool, and I am very excited.
no, you're not. i agree.
Quote from: TheShade1989 on Jul 14, 2012, 11:41 PM
Am I the only one here who thinks that "futuristic" and "aggressive mixed with dreamy" are all descriptions they've used before, more or less? That said, I'm not saying he's lying or anything, and I can understand that he's saying the songs are longer and more free-flowing, not compact or simplified, so that's very cool, and I am very excited.
it's marketing strategy
Quote from: TheShade1989 on Jul 14, 2012, 11:41 PM
Am I the only one here who thinks that "futuristic" and "aggressive mixed with dreamy" are all descriptions they've used before, more or less? That said, I'm not saying he's lying or anything, and I can understand that he's saying the songs are longer and more free-flowing, not compact or simplified, so that's very cool, and I am very excited.
i agree phrases like that are used a lot... if we take the "aggressive mixed with dreamy" description, different words have been used over the years like dynamic and diverse, but it boils down to the same thing in the end.
but let's say it's the "aggressive mixed with dreamy" term that has been used since wp til this day, what album, to you, does not fit into that description? maybe chino use it because it fits every album? so it really isn't the description that is repetitive, it's the albums?
holy fuck. Shut up. Get over it. Quit bitching. Bring it to the bullshit thread.
So, this is no interview at all, but I sent a Facebook message to Rey Osburn (ex-Tinfed/Death Valley High) asking if Chino collaborates in Dangergirl and he told me this:
Reyka Osburn
hey thanks! yeah it's chino... we couldn't use his name due to constraints of contracts from Maverick. c-note is a nickname we all call him... so we just used that to keep off their radar.
in other news... since he doesn't have any more constraints, we're trying to coax him to sing something on our new record... which is due out this winter 2012.
thanks again and cheers!
- reykja
Perhaps we'll have a new track with Chino in DVH! I really like the band, it's "doom pop/rock" stated by the band.. would be cool to listen to Chino in there.
who is chino
Chino dont have more constraints? something with WB is over?
this is why crosses and palms will be released a while after this album.
please chino say NO please!!!!
Quote from: cvthedrv on Jul 19, 2012, 02:12 AM
please chino say NO please!!!!
Why? Dangergirl is marvellous.
Quote from: Vesanic on Jul 19, 2012, 02:35 AM
Quote from: cvthedrv on Jul 19, 2012, 02:12 AM
please chino say NO please!!!!
Why? Dangergirl is marvellous.
that one was alright bu im talking about death valley high, i dont want another shitty featuring, i'll can't stand it.
Quote from: Millennia on Jul 19, 2012, 12:50 AM
this is why crosses and palms will be released a while after this album.
may be crosses will release the full album instead of ep3
Quote from: cvthedrv on Jul 19, 2012, 02:12 AM
please chino say NO please!!!!
I will gladly listen to anything Chino lends his voice to. This is a good way for us to hear some form of deftones in different genres.
Quote from: deftoneseba on Jul 18, 2012, 11:41 PM
So, this is no interview at all, but I sent a Facebook message to Rey Osburn (ex-Tinfed/Death Valley High) asking if Chino collaborates in Dangergirl and he told me this:
Reyka Osburn
hey thanks! yeah it's chino... we couldn't use his name due to constraints of contracts from Maverick. c-note is a nickname we all call him... so we just used that to keep off their radar.
in other news... since he doesn't have any more constraints, we're trying to coax him to sing something on our new record... which is due out this winter 2012.
thanks again and cheers!
- reykja
Perhaps we'll have a new track with Chino in DVH! I really like the band, it's "doom pop/rock" stated by the band.. would be cool to listen to Chino in there.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT! New Tinfed album in 2012~ STOKED. And Chino will be on it too! Awesome fucking news
Quote from: kitesvera on Jul 20, 2012, 06:30 PM
Quote from: deftoneseba on Jul 18, 2012, 11:41 PM
So, this is no interview at all, but I sent a Facebook message to Rey Osburn (ex-Tinfed/Death Valley High) asking if Chino collaborates in Dangergirl and he told me this:
Reyka Osburn
hey thanks! yeah it's chino... we couldn't use his name due to constraints of contracts from Maverick. c-note is a nickname we all call him... so we just used that to keep off their radar.
in other news... since he doesn't have any more constraints, we're trying to coax him to sing something on our new record... which is due out this winter 2012.
thanks again and cheers!
- reykja
Perhaps we'll have a new track with Chino in DVH! I really like the band, it's "doom pop/rock" stated by the band.. would be cool to listen to Chino in there.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT! New Tinfed album in 2012~ STOKED. And Chino will be on it too! Awesome fucking news
Reyka just confirmed this is all false information
Deftoneseba is not one to post bullshit so I guess Reyka is just lying. C-note is really Chino's nickname though.
Quote from: Vesanic on Jul 21, 2012, 01:32 PM
Deftoneseba is not one to post bullshit so I guess Reyka is just lying. C-note is really Chino's nickname though.
Yeah thats true C note is one of his nicknames. All the rest of that is false though. Reyka told me its a direct quote but that he was not referring to tinfed, but rather death valley high. As of now they have no plans for a collab with Chino but that something could happen maybe once they get to recording the new death valley high. He said no one gets approached about that kinda thing until recording actually starts...In Regards to the contractual obligations he didnt clarify anything to do with that part. I guess its not false, rather misleading as Reyka put it...
Seba never said Reyka was referring to Tinfed though, he did say DVH.
What exactly did Reyka do on Lucky You? Never heard of him til now...
pretty sure he does the "If you feel lucky, if you feel loved" and "spread your wings" part?
I'm pretty sure that's chino...
Nope. I remember when the album came out reading about someone else contributing on that song. It bummed me to learn that it wasn't Chino singing that part.
Wow... listening to it now to hear it. And yes I can tell it is someone else singing that part. Weird! I never would have thought that... Except the "Spread your wings" part still sounds like Chino...
I always knew it was someone else but never really looked into who. The more you know!
don't know if this has been posted and my internet is so slow right now, checking back is painful..
Deftones Chino Moreno spoke with "Revolver" about the new album.
Chino stated: "It's not like on some of our previous records where you can hear that Stephen wrote all the heavy stuff and I wrote all the pussy songs. We wrote organically as two guitar players with no ego battles. I play guitar on 10 of 13 songs, which is more guitar than I've played."
The heaviest song on the album is titled "Roller Derby", which is similar to "Rocket Skates". He stated: "maximum riffage with a strong melody."
He also spoke of a new song titled "Flashback", saying it reminded him of something from "White Pony". They plan to release the new CD on October 9th.
This has already been posted, but thanks anyway.
Does anyone know where I can find the picture of Chino, Steph, Abe, and Vega smiling, and then Frank says NO..?
I've been searching with no luck. Was a great laugh that I think someone else I know would appreciate. ;D
Fender News caught up with the always-articulate Cheng in January 2006, as Deftones were working on their as-yet untitled forthcoming album and preparing to embark on the Taste of Chaos tour.
FN: Chino and Stephen definitely offer different musical influences. Chino is more into the Cure and My Bloody Valentine; Stephen is more into heavier bands like Meshuggah. Where do you stand?
CC: I kind of float around, right in between.
http://www.fender.com/news/index.php?display_article=87 (http://www.fender.com/news/index.php?display_article=87)
Damn. Miss that guy.
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LOL @ the photoshopping in that last picture.
Awful.
Nice duck face chino
Why isn't anyone smiling?
Quote from: snw9 on Aug 05, 2012, 02:08 PM
Why isn't anyone smiling?
They're, like, a metal band dude.
No smiling allowed.
Lawlz.
Dark days and duckface
i think it's cool as fuck
That's because there's the S/T cover in the background, haha.
Actually I'll take back what I said and say only Chino's face on this is pretty lame.
no seriously chino's face is cool as shit!
it's like "yeah bitch i'd/i hit that"
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What the fuck @ Chino's face
terrible
Taken today
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http://bostonglobe.com/arts/music/2012/08/05/deftones-bounce-back-after-tragedy-strikes/7fmlQAtrQfg4Elth4A3kLO/story.html (http://bostonglobe.com/arts/music/2012/08/05/deftones-bounce-back-after-tragedy-strikes/7fmlQAtrQfg4Elth4A3kLO/story.html)
Deftones bounce back after tragedy
By Scott McLennan | GLOBE CORRESPONDENT AUGUST 06, 2012
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Following a car accident involving the band's original bassist, Deftones are touring again and will release a new album in October.
In October, Deftones will release a new album, trying to build on the creative rebirth sparked by the 2010 comeback "Diamond Eyes." Founded in the late 1980s by singer Chino Moreno, guitarist Stephen Carpenter, drummer Abe Cunningham, and bassist Chi Cheng, the band blurred the lines between metal, hardcore, and art rock, eventually adding DJ and keyboard player Frank Delgado. But Deftones seemed spent after its 2006 album, "Saturday Night Wrist," and then shattered in 2008 when Cheng was in a car crash from which he remains in a semi-conscious state.
Deftones regrouped with bassist Sergio Vega from the band Quicksand, which toured with Deftones in 1997, and the new lineup produced the stellar "Diamond Eyes." Subsequent shows revealed a refocused, re-energized Deftones. The band is back after nearly a year off and playing a handful of shows this summer with System of a Down, including Thursday at the Comcast Center, before cranking up its own fall tour when the as-yet-unnamed album comes out. Moreno was reached by phone in Philadelphia on the summer tour's opening day last week.
Q. "Diamond Eyes" had a long, cool flow. Is the new work similar to that or a turn away from that?
A. As far as flow, it fits in with "Diamond Eyes" and our earlier records. We didn't overthink things on the first couple of records. [Our second record] "Around the Fur" we wrote after whirlwind touring, went in with a positive mindset, made it really fast. We reconnected with that mindset on "Diamond Eyes." It was a work ethic that is better for us. "White Pony" was the first time we took a lot of time to make a record. It turned out great, but was very taxing on the band. We were second-guessing ourselves and it was becoming not fun.
Q. You recently played the Troubadour nightclub. Is it important for the band to get back to those kinds of small gigs?
A. We're not big everywhere, so we play smaller places. But it is great to be on that little stage and everyone is in your face. It's more intimate compared to an arena, but you can do other things in an arena, too. This band does all right in different sized venues. I was nervous at those shows because we hadn't played in almost a year. We played some in the studio, but not a whole show. I was forgetting some words during the rehearsal. But once we started, it all just came back to me.
Q. This band started with you and three friends. What was it like having Sergio come into it, especially under the particular circumstances?
A. As difficult a time as it was, when Sergio came in, it woke something up in us. Chi's accident actually woke us up in a lot of ways. Like you said, we've all know each other as friends, and little things build up. You just go on and work, and everything gets big. Chi had the accident and it woke us up. Life is fragile and we saw how precious our time is. We bonded really tight. Sergio added a new sound and an appreciation for what we have. He's the kind of guy who is enthusiastic about everything. He got us together again. It's not like he was somebody we hired. We knew him and he's a great guy. If it wasn't for him, we probably would have stopped.
Q. Deftones songs always seem to come from a personal place. Does the outside world influence your writing?
A. I suppose I see some things slipping in, but I make a conscious effort not to be influenced. I never felt that's what this music is about. I can appreciate music like that. But it's tough for me to write about any kind of topic in such a forward manner. I want to paint a picture, and capture overall emotion. I'm usually driven by the music to create a certain feeling. Words come and fill in the space. I'm intentionally vague with what I say.
Q. Teaming with System of a Down is pretty cool. That tour with Godsmack, not so much. What sorts of decisions go into putting together a tour?
A. We've turned down a lot of things because it's usually a democracy deciding what we do. We've been friends with System of a Down for a long time and have wanted to tour together, but they haven't been working a lot. They asked us to come out on this handful of shows and it seemed like a good warm-up before our record comes out.
Q. You've had Serj Tankian, Max Cavalera, and Maynard James Keenan on your records and collaborated with Tech 9. Any guests on the new record or people you'd like to collaborate with?
A. Nobody is on the record as of yet, but we still have some B-sides to record. We usually have some random things. We'd like to do something with Los Lobos. They're from LA too and we listened to them a lot. And Willie Nelson is someone we'd like to work with.
Interview has been edited and condensed. Scott McLennan can be reached at smclennan1010@gmail.com. Follow him on Twitter @ScottMcLennan1.
who is Los Lobos and Willie Nelson?
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I have no idea why I'm laughing.
haha.. How would they ever incorporate such artist with their sound? Seems to me nobody will appear as a guest on this album.. And I'm Okay with that.
That was a lame interview.. Come on.. 2 months til album release and they're not even asking any real questions about it... laaaaaaaaaaaaaaame
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Aug 06, 2012, 09:10 AM
who is Los Lobos and Willie Nelson?
I think he's talking about they
Los Lobos - Don't Worry Baby (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tao8rbrnfbc#)
and well, Willie Nelson
Willie Nelson - Always On My Mind (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7f189Z0v0Y#)
did we get that old?
well, we're not so young
Fuck you, I'm 22, I'm a toddler.
Sorry, Deftones should do a collaboration with this guys
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I'm fine with no collabs. I mean, MJK on Passenger, Serj on Mein, disgusting whatsherface on Pink Cellphone. No thanks. Not that MJK is bad, his vocals are actually pretty good, I'm just not a fan of him.
No more collabs please. Passenger was the only one there ever need be. When your first collaboration is perfect, don't do any more.
Quote from: bewareofrats on Aug 06, 2012, 11:24 PM
I'm fine with no collabs. I mean, MJK on Passenger, Serj on Mein, disgusting whatsherface on Pink Cellphone. No thanks. Not that MJK is bad, his vocals are actually pretty good, I'm just not a fan of him.
dude, this is what im waiting about the new album, no fucking collabs.
Quote from: luisch on Aug 06, 2012, 05:58 PM
well, we're not so young
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Deftones with System of a Down on rare tag team tour
Another dispatch from the desk of metal correspondent Dave Wedge:
It's been four years since Deftones bassist Chi Cheng nearly died in a horrible car wreck. Cheng, who co-founded the Sacramento alt-metal band with vocalist Chino Moreno when they were just teenagers, has laid in a coma ever since.
It's been a painful turn of events –- one that has haunted Moreno, even as the band embarks on a massive double-bill with L.A. prog-metal titans System of a Down. The tour has just a handful of stops, including one Thursday at Mansfield's Comcast Center.
"He's still fighting through it. It's a tough thing," Moreno told the Herald this week while on a tour bus to Washington, D.C. "He's got a traumatic brain injury. It's really day-to-day. He's still yet to really communicate. I know he's in there somewhere and he's been fighting for four years. I feel personally he wants to make it through it."
"We pretty much spent every day on tour together," he continued. "You're used to having someone in your job and in your life every day and suddenly they're not there. But he is still alive. It's not like he's gone and we can grieve him. There's still a chance we can have a conversation with him again. It's a weird thing."
The band, which has three platinum discs under its belt, has carried on without its original bassist, replacing him with Quicksand's Sergio Vega. Vega handled the bass duties on 2010's "Diamond Eyes" as well as on the band's as-yet-untitled new record, which is due in the fall.
"I don't think it goes in any one specific direction too much," Moreno says of the new album. "It's a very dynamic record, which is one of our best traits. At times it can be very abrasive and at times it can be very soothing. I think it works very well. There are peaks and valleys."
System of a Down, meanwhile, are doing a mini-reunion and have not revealed any plans for a new record. Vocalist Serj Tankian, though, has a stellar new solo album, "Harakiri," and is reported to be recording three other solo discs.
The tour is a bit unusual in that neither band is out promoting a record. But for metal fans – and Moreno – it's a dream match up.
"We've been talking about touring with System for many years now. It just worked out. It was good timing for us," he said.
While Moreno - and fellow original Deftones Stephen Carpenter (guitar), Frank Delgado (keyboards, turntables) and Abe Cunningham (drums) - are in a creative groove once again, the tragedy with Cheng is always on their minds.
"It's as simple as appreciating what we had and what we have and the opportunity we have to still make music," Moreno said. "The rest of us have pulled together. We feel really appreciative to be here and still making music together. Every day it comes through my thoughts."
I'm waiting for those b-sides, hopefully we'll get an unreleased track this time with the covers.
So, the album is abrasive? That's a new way to describe it, at least.
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 09, 2012, 03:50 PM
So, the album is abrasive? That's a new way to describe it, at least.
"At times" is a critical part of Chino's statement. Sounds like typical Deftones to me.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/ct-ott-0810-deftones-20120809,0,5774086.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/ct-ott-0810-deftones-20120809,0,5774086.story)
Here's an interview with Abe. Not much in the way of news about the new album.These people need to learn how to conduct an interview when a band has a new album dropping. I want details already.
Quote from: kitesvera on Aug 09, 2012, 08:20 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/ct-ott-0810-deftones-20120809,0,5774086.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/ct-ott-0810-deftones-20120809,0,5774086.story)
Here's an interview with Abe. Not much in the way of news about the new album.These people need to learn how to conduct an interview when a band has a new album dropping. I want details already.
Sign in required. Any chance you could copy+paste the article for us?
Sign in is not required.
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Quote from: kitesvera on Aug 09, 2012, 08:20 PM
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/ct-ott-0810-deftones-20120809,0,5774086.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/ct-ott-0810-deftones-20120809,0,5774086.story)
Here's an interview with Abe. Not much in the way of news about the new album.These people need to learn how to conduct an interview when a band has a new album dropping. I want details already.
Sign in required. Any chance you could copy+paste the article for us?
Only skip the ad, but anyway
Deftones forge ahead after fights, tough timesBandmate's crash focused the group, drummer saysBy Allison Stewart, Special to the Tribune
11:40 a.m. CDT, August 9, 2012
It used to be that the Sacramento, Calif.-born Deftones were as famous for intra-band brawling as they were for making albums.
After bassist Chi Cheng was seriously injured in a 2008 car crash, the band considered breaking up. Instead, it entered the studio with replacement bassist Sergio Vega. (Cheng, who remains in a state of minimal consciousness, is being cared for by his family.)
The result, 2010's "Diamond Eyes," was one of the highest charting albums, and quite possibly the best, of their decades-long career.
The band recently recorded a new, as-yet-untitled album, tentatively set for release in October. Calling in from the first date of their minitour with System of a Down (which will share the bill with Deftones at Allstate Arena on Wednesday), drummer and co-founder Abe Cunningham talked about the new album, the group's past struggles, and the current state of the Deftones' union.
Q: How's the new material going over live?
A: It's nerve-racking because it's new and you're just trying to get it right, and it's also nerve-racking because now it's on YouTube, so it's all over the world.
Q: Can you compare recording this new album vs. recording the last one, in the time after Chi's accident?
A: Well, the last album was such a really horrendous process. Obviously, with your first record you have your whole life to write it. And then you get caught in this cycle of writing, recording, touring. It can be a hideous process after a while, (especially if) there's other things involved. For us, it could get a little unsavory.
But this last album and the one before it, we finally figured out how to do it. (It used to be) we would schedule recording for 5 and everyone would show up around 9, but this time we decided to treat it like a job, and be on a normal schedule. Everyone would show up at noon and we'd be done by 8, and could go and do other things. It started a creative and really productive period. And it only took 18 years to figure that out.
Q: With this new album, did you think about how you could recreate everything you loved about making the last one, without going to the really dark places you had been in?
A: Well, Chi's accident was a catalyst for that. It really kicked us into gear. We started to appreciate each other and the time we have together. It made us realize we have a pretty cool thing going on here, and let's treat it like that and enjoy it.
Q: Were you surprised when "Diamond Eyes" debuted at No. 6?
A: Well, all of our records with the exception of the first one have kind of been in the Top 10, I guess. But it used to take, like, 300,000 copies to break into the Top Ten. Now it takes 30,000 or 60,000.
Q: Did the album's success feel like the beginning of a second life for the band?
A: Yeah, definitely. We were going hard for a lot of years. It's a grueling lifestyle. It's a tough life on the road, and you can make it even tougher if you add things to it. It's incredibly exciting but it's hard, it's hard to get things all together, but I think things have a way of working themselves out. Everybody involved wanted to keep it going and do it right. So it is a second life of sorts.
Q: All those reports that the band was considering breaking up after Chi's accident — were they overblown, or did you really have that discussion?
A: I think that were overblown to a degree, but we were really so blown away. It's like, what do you do? We were trying to figure it out, because it's one of those things in life where there's no answers. That whole Chi thing, there's no answer for that. So we were taken aback, but looking back now, it made us stronger. It makes you consider whether or not it's something you want to still do, you know? It was a long battle.
Q: Do you ever think, in the back of your mind somewhere, "When Chi gets better, he's really going to like these albums?"
A: Yeah. Most definitely. It's fuel for our creativity. We're always trying to keep positive on that tip, but it's four years now and he's still pretty bad. We try to send him all the best positivity we can.
Q: Do you look at Sergio as a permanent temporary member?
A: It's a tricky situation, because Chi's still alive. As of now, Sergio's a friend who's here to do what he can for as long as he needs to. ... He's here to do whatever he can.
Quote from: luisch on Aug 10, 2012, 02:32 AM
Q: Do you look at Sergio as a permanent temporary member?
A: It's a tricky situation, because Chi's still alive. As of now, Sergio's a friend who's here to do what he can for as long as he needs to. ... He's here to do whatever he can.
Interesting answer from Abe. Obviously Chi getting better and recovering is what everyone wants, but he is pretty much a vegetable at this point (hope that didn't offend anyone). Sergio is still looked as a friend helping out, not a band member. Interesting.
Interesting, I consider Sergio to be full member. If it wasn't for Sergio, deftones would probably not be making new music.
Check out this great interview from 2010 that was posted in the new gear thread:
http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/deftones-stephen-carpenter-sergio-vega-on-diamond-eyes-253377 (http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/deftones-stephen-carpenter-sergio-vega-on-diamond-eyes-253377)
Moving forward, how is this going to work? Is Sergio viewed as permanent member of the band?
Carpenter: "Absolutely."
Vega: "I look at myself as the sixth man off the bench. We've been friends for a long time and I've always loved the band. I look at the band as family, in whatever form that takes."
Carpenter: "We have many band members. They're just not always present all the time."
Obviously, nobody's happy with what happened with Chi. But in a weird way, does this feel like something of a rebirth for the band?
Carpenter: "Yeah, 'cause we were pretty washed-up before It happened, so it's been a good thing." [laughs]
You're joking, of course. But you know what I mean - this feels like a real 'triumph over adversity' tale.
Carpenter: "Oh, absolutely. We're having a good time. It's a duality for us. On one hand, we're dealing with the fact that our friend isn't with us and his life has been forever altered; on the other, we're all together and we're enjoying life to the fullest and getting on with things - which is all you can do, really."
http://www.clintonnewsrecord.com/2012/08/10/deftones-stoked-for-latest-disc (http://www.clintonnewsrecord.com/2012/08/10/deftones-stoked-for-latest-disc)
Deftones stoked for latest disc
JASON MacNEIL, Special to QMI Agency
California hard rock outfit Deftones won't see their as-yet untitled studio album out until October. But lead singer/guitarist Chino Moreno seems to be chomping at the bit to tour behind it.
And unlike earlier studio albums, Moreno says the band didn't second-guess themselves much this time around.
"Internally over the years we've figured out better ways of making records," he says before a Washington D.C. gig later that evening. "We sort of just dragged them out for so long. We implemented a new regiment to our work ethic. We wrote it all from scratch, we don't write on tour or anything like that. We were ready to go in there (the studio) and see how it feels in the daytime and get to work."
Moreno also says the new record, the followup to 2010's Diamond Eyes, was never going to end up like their equivalent of Chinese Democracy.
"We can make a record and not spend years making it and just enjoy doing it," he says. "We came off that tour feeling really good and when we wanted to make this record everyone was in the right head space so it worked out really well."
Although the song titles and album name haven't been hashed out, the vocalist says it's a "very well-balanced record" but "more expansive" than Diamond Eyes. Two of the new songs with working titles Roller Derby and Rosemary are being road-tested with Moreno saying they've fared quite well live.
"I don't think those songs are the ones that best represent our record," he says. "They're two different songs, one is a lot more ambient (Rosemary) than the other (Roller Derby), the other is a lot more aggressive. But they're cool, they balance each other out. The songs already sounded great live before we recorded them. When we wrote the record we pretty much wrote it live."
After a handful of summer festival dates, Deftones will be touring extensively behind the new record with a planned North American trek (with Canadian dates) in the cards for October and November. The group will also continue their knack for eclectic covers as b-sides. Moreno mentioned Elvis Presley and Earth, Wind & Fire as candidates but are open to anything.
"The fun stuff is playing somebody else's song and recording it," he says. "We're always open to new stuff. It's fun for us to do something that's out of our element and something you wouldn't expect from a heavier type of rock band. So hopefully it will be something that's a little off the cuff and left of centre."
Perhaps the only thing that surprised Moreno is talk of possible plans for the band's 25th anniversary next year.
"Is it? Wow," he says recalling it "was just us in a garage" back in 1988. "It is kind of crazy in that we've been doing this for well over half our lives. I mean I didn't even realize that. You're actually the first person to bring that up. It's a trip. We're getting old."
Heads up, chino and Sergio are on liquid metal right now
any recording of it or info
No i didnt record it. I caught the second half of it. They were picking songs, talked about Chi and the tour. I look for replays later, but it was on the 8 th originally and was a half hour show.
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http://www.siriusxm.com/liquidmetal (http://www.siriusxm.com/liquidmetal)
Sorry V, didn't record it. I was listening to it in my Jeep. If they replay it this weekend I'll try and record it thru my pc
Yeah sorry, I misunderstood haha.
http://loudwire.com/deftones-say-recently-debuted-tracks-dont-best-represent-new-album/ (http://loudwire.com/deftones-say-recently-debuted-tracks-dont-best-represent-new-album/)
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 11, 2012, 11:18 PM
http://loudwire.com/deftones-say-recently-debuted-tracks-dont-best-represent-new-album/ (http://loudwire.com/deftones-say-recently-debuted-tracks-dont-best-represent-new-album/)
that interview was posted by normsteez before (7 posts above) Thank you, btw
Where?
Quote from: normsteez on Aug 10, 2012, 06:45 PM
http://www.clintonnewsrecord.com/2012/08/10/deftones-stoked-for-latest-disc (http://www.clintonnewsrecord.com/2012/08/10/deftones-stoked-for-latest-disc)
Deftones stoked for latest disc
JASON MacNEIL, Special to QMI Agency
California hard rock outfit Deftones won't see their as-yet untitled studio album out until October. But lead singer/guitarist Chino Moreno seems to be chomping at the bit to tour behind it.
And unlike earlier studio albums, Moreno says the band didn't second-guess themselves much this time around.
"Internally over the years we've figured out better ways of making records," he says before a Washington D.C. gig later that evening. "We sort of just dragged them out for so long. We implemented a new regiment to our work ethic. We wrote it all from scratch, we don't write on tour or anything like that. We were ready to go in there (the studio) and see how it feels in the daytime and get to work."
Moreno also says the new record, the followup to 2010's Diamond Eyes, was never going to end up like their equivalent of Chinese Democracy.
"We can make a record and not spend years making it and just enjoy doing it," he says. "We came off that tour feeling really good and when we wanted to make this record everyone was in the right head space so it worked out really well."
Although the song titles and album name haven't been hashed out, the vocalist says it's a "very well-balanced record" but "more expansive" than Diamond Eyes. Two of the new songs with working titles Roller Derby and Rosemary are being road-tested with Moreno saying they've fared quite well live.
"I don't think those songs are the ones that best represent our record," he says. "They're two different songs, one is a lot more ambient (Rosemary) than the other (Roller Derby), the other is a lot more aggressive. But they're cool, they balance each other out. The songs already sounded great live before we recorded them. When we wrote the record we pretty much wrote it live."
After a handful of summer festival dates, Deftones will be touring extensively behind the new record with a planned North American trek (with Canadian dates) in the cards for October and November. The group will also continue their knack for eclectic covers as b-sides. Moreno mentioned Elvis Presley and Earth, Wind & Fire as candidates but are open to anything.
"The fun stuff is playing somebody else's song and recording it," he says. "We're always open to new stuff. It's fun for us to do something that's out of our element and something you wouldn't expect from a heavier type of rock band. So hopefully it will be something that's a little off the cuff and left of centre."
Perhaps the only thing that surprised Moreno is talk of possible plans for the band's 25th anniversary next year.
"Is it? Wow," he says recalling it "was just us in a garage" back in 1988. "It is kind of crazy in that we've been doing this for well over half our lives. I mean I didn't even realize that. You're actually the first person to bring that up. It's a trip. We're getting old."
Here, bud
My bad.
Deftones interview by Toazted 1997 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buNnUCrUJeg#)
Deftones - Chino Moreno interview by Toazted 1997 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56iCidXbk3Y#)
Deftones - Chi Cheng interview by Toazted 2003 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NlyrNqu034#)
George (Cannibal Corpse), Jesse (Killswitch Engage), and Chino yesterday at Heavy MTL
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What? That's supposed to be Chino on the right? Is it just me or does he look HUGE in that picture? Especially in the face. Also his face looks a little weird to me.
Dude, that's Dominic...You can read it below the picture...
Quote from: bewareofrats on Aug 12, 2012, 12:20 PM
What? That's supposed to be Chino on the right? Is it just me or does he look HUGE in that picture? Especially in the face. Also his face looks a little weird to me.
who gives a shit what he looks like?
i do..
i dont want him to swag as a fatprincess around
Quote from: m on Aug 12, 2012, 07:36 PM
Dude, that's Dominic...You can read it below the picture...
I'm talking about the picture in luisch's post.
Quote from: gunsrazorsknives on Aug 12, 2012, 08:51 PM
Quote from: bewareofrats on Aug 12, 2012, 12:20 PM
What? That's supposed to be Chino on the right? Is it just me or does he look HUGE in that picture? Especially in the face. Also his face looks a little weird to me.
who gives a shit what he looks like?
I don't particularly care what he looks like. It's just I know he's not nearly as big now as he was but he almost looks as fat if not fatter in that picture. So I was surprised if that was him. Am I only one that thinks he looks way bigger in that picture?
not alone. I will say that picture is gross. Looks bald?
Quote from: bewareofrats on Aug 13, 2012, 07:41 AM
Quote from: m on Aug 12, 2012, 07:36 PM
Dude, that's Dominic...You can read it below the picture...
I'm talking about the picture in luisch's post.
Quote from: gunsrazorsknives on Aug 12, 2012, 08:51 PM
Quote from: bewareofrats on Aug 12, 2012, 12:20 PM
What? That's supposed to be Chino on the right? Is it just me or does he look HUGE in that picture? Especially in the face. Also his face looks a little weird to me.
who gives a shit what he looks like?
I don't particularly care what he looks like. It's just I know he's not nearly as big now as he was but he almost looks as fat if not fatter in that picture. So I was surprised if that was him. Am I only one that thinks he looks way bigger in that picture?
Yup, he gain some weight this months
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Quote from: gunsrazorsknives on Aug 12, 2012, 08:51 PM
Quote from: bewareofrats on Aug 12, 2012, 12:20 PM
What? That's supposed to be Chino on the right? Is it just me or does he look HUGE in that picture? Especially in the face. Also his face looks a little weird to me.
who gives a shit what he looks like?
Thank you.
And also he is wearing a hood, I don't know if maybe y'all can't see that... And he is smiling so his smile lines are showing... That's not fat.. and who cares anyway...
It's amazing how there's always someone going like "wtf y do u care abut his wayght he roks anyway". They don't seem to understand too much weight can have a serious impact on his performances.
Chino doesn't have his ring on.
i thought you said his singing got better.
so what the fuck about his weight?
maybe chino eats to much pussy!
and you know who has his ring back....my precious
I said TOO MUCH weight. He's not SNW-like. That's where things could be messed up.
Wow!
That's all I can say after reading this page.
You guys sound like the kinda ppl that read gossip magazines about who Kim Kardashian is fucking and who's gained three pounds or who's had the shame to walk out of the house without looking beautiful. Chill out, ppl. Chino is not fat. He doesnt look as skinny as he was wen they were last touring, but let's be real, he's not fat, he still sounds awesome and he might be going through a rough/lazy phase that could be over as soon as it came on. I know we dont have anymore news on the new album so we take what we can get, but the minor weight gain wont have any impact on his singing, I'm sure.
You guys are ridiculous.
Quote from: TheShade1989 on Aug 13, 2012, 08:40 PM
You guys sound like the kinda ppl that read gossip magazines about who Kim Kardashian is fucking and who's gained three pounds or who's had the shame to walk out of the house without looking beautiful. Chill out, ppl. Chino is not fat. He doesnt look as skinny as he was wen they were last touring, but let's be real, he's not fat, he still sounds awesome and he might be going through a rough/lazy phase that could be over as soon as it came on. I know we dont have anymore news on the new album so we take what we can get, but the minor weight gain wont have any impact on his singing, I'm sure.
Agreed, this Fat Chino/Fit Chino thing makes me laugh everytime it comes up. If they have to wheel the guy out on a forklift someday then I will worry but until then come on people. He still seems to bring the energy regardless...
As far as I'm concerned, I don't care as long as it doesn't affect his performances, and it has in the past, you know that.
Otherwise, he can perform bald and naked, I won't give a crap.
Ugh. You people are ridiculous, if you're aiming at my posts anyway. I never said nor do I have a problem with Chino gaining weight. I also never said Chino was fat, I don't think he's fat. Just that he 'looks' fat in that picture and I found it surprising if it was him is all because I know he doesn't look that big when I've seen him recently.
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 13, 2012, 09:09 PM
As far as I'm concerned, I don't care as long as it doesn't affect his performances, and it has in the past, you know that.
Thats my point.
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lol he's getting big again
nah, he's just bulking
Genius x3 (I dont know who's the glass one)
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Quote from: luisch on Aug 16, 2012, 05:25 AM
Genius x3 (I dont know who's the glass one)
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John Dolmayan - SOAD, Charlie Benante - Anthrax, Abe and Aaaron Harris - Isis (has also been drum teching for Abe for the last week or so)
God damn, looks like they were just hanging out with Stef... haha
For some reason, I can't copy/paste this
http://www.seethemuzic.com/deftones-then-and-now-an-interview-with-abe-cunningham/ (http://www.seethemuzic.com/deftones-then-and-now-an-interview-with-abe-cunningham/)
Nothing concrete regarding the new album.
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 16, 2012, 11:14 AM
For some reason, I can't copy/paste this
http://www.seethemuzic.com/deftones-then-and-now-an-interview-with-abe-cunningham/ (http://www.seethemuzic.com/deftones-then-and-now-an-interview-with-abe-cunningham/)
Nothing concrete regarding the new album.
Deftones "Then and Now" An Interview with Abe Cunningham(http://www.seethemuzic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Deftones-Performing-at-DTE-Energy-Music-Theatre-August-14th-2012-Photo-by-Marc-Nader-7004.jpg)
The Deftones lit-up DTE Energy Music Theatre Tuesday night but a few weeks prior, See The Muzic's very own Danielle Debusman had a chance to sit down with Deftones Drummer Abe Cunningham to discuss the new tour, how Chi's Cheng (Deftone's Bassist) career ending car accident affected the group and the band just feeling like a band again:
D: So, you guys are currently on tour with System Of A Down and I have to say, I am stoked for this lineup!! How did the co-headlining thing with them come to be?
Abe: Yeah we've been friends with those guys for a very long time! They actually opened up for us way back when they were first starting out. We also have the same management as well, and have been talking about doing this forever so; here we are!
D: It seems like you guys have been really cranking for the last couple years, between touring a ton, putting Diamond Eyes out in 2010, and now the new album coming out in October, do you kind of feel like you're at a place now where the creative juices are flowing pretty naturally?
Abe: Definitely. It feels so good to have it be this way. I mean I wouldn't change anything right now; for a while, making records became a drag mainly because of the things that we were doing to ourselves, you know all the rock and roll crap, it just became miserable for us. Chi's accident really kicked us back into gear...we're really enjoying each other's company again and enjoying what we do. After all these years of wasting time and being stupid, we just kind of had this re-awakening if you will. We just figured out how to respect each other, and respect the band we've created. It's kicked us into gear with our writing and we've never looked back since.
D: Has there been any progress with Chi?
Abe: No. He's pretty much the same. He's back in CA at home now, which is probably the best place for him to be, instead of some nasty hospital. He's a fighter; the dude is incredibly strong and stubborn. It's amazing.
D: I believe people can still make donations on the website to help the family out, correct?
Abe: Yeah oneloveforchi.com. The family needs it, his care is really, really expensive. We do what we can when we're out on tour, portion's of our ticket sales go towards his care.
D: Tell me a little bit about the new album. You guys have a name for it yet?
Abe: We actually don't have a name for it yet, maybe we'll come up with one tonight (laughs) I'll tell you one thing though, this record is badass!
D: Yes, I've heard a couple tracks off of it; "Rosemary" in particular is a pretty awesome song!
Abe: Yeah, we are super stoked. It all came together when we clicked again and we just had an absolute blast creating it. We're just having a really good time making music.
D: That's awesome! I remember reading your past album Diamond Eyes, you guys recorded it with the entire band at once, rather than tracking your parts separately. Did you guys take the same approach with the new record?
Abe: Yeah. The thing was, around the time of "Saturday Night Wrist" we were just out of our minds, no one was talking so there was no communication. We had a record to make, so in the studio someone would come in, lay down their parts, then someone else would put something over it, etc, we weren't even speaking, it just sucked, It just freaking sucked. But this time around, we were a band again, recording together in an empty room just bashing these songs out a couple hundred times, by the time it came to start tracking, we knew everything and there wasn't any doubt how the songs would be styled. It really made the whole studio experience a breeze. We just went in there, hashed it out and didn't have to rely on technology to piece everything together, you know!
D: What kind of stuff were you guys listening to while making this record? Were there any bands/artists that influenced you musically this time around?
Abe: For me, I was just going out and being thrilled that I was jamming with my boys again. I guess I can't really answer that question! Music is constantly in the background of our lives and I'm a victim of 'shuffle'. Everything is always shuffling, you know? So nothing and everything I guess!
D: Soooo – a lot of Justin Bieber then?
Abe: (laughs) Yeah totally. The Bieb's Christmas album for sure.
D: Yes!! Christmas album a solid choice!
D: What song of yours never gets old to play live?
Abe: My Own Summer's always fun. It's just a fun-ass song to play. There are certain songs off our first album that we've played a million times, but you give them a break and they come alive again. We don't want to piss anyone off – but at the same time, we've got to be stoked to play too. So we have to give things a break sometimes. But the new stuff is killer too – really looking forward to playing all of that.
D: My ultimate dream would be to see you guys play "Passenger" live with Maynard (James Keenan from Tool).
Abe: Haha you and a couple other people, it's only happened twice!
D: What was it like to work with him?
Abe: Maynard is awesome. That was one of those things that kind of came together organically. We knew him for a while, and asked if he wanted to work with us. So we met up with him one day in LA and wrote the music together, he did the vocals way later. He's a total character though, probably one of the funniest people you will ever meet.
D: I think it's safe to say a lot of drummers would cite you as an influence. Who are some of the drummers that have influenced you?
Abe: Stewart Copeland is probably one of my all-time favorites. Mitch Mitchell from Hendrix, Ginger Baker from Cream. I like about 7,000 others though, if you'd like me to rattle them off. (laughs)
D: Nice!! Well our time is up and thanks so much for taking the time to talk to me Abe! I wish you guys the best of luck with the new album & the tour, I personally can't wait for the Detroit show on the 14th!
Abe: Thank you so much Danielle, this has been very cool. We'll see you in a couple weeks!
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Pork belly & homemade pickle sandwich @ Omaha Tap House
No wonder why Chino is getting "gordito" again
i think its abe he uses deftones offical twitter alot
Abe is my hero
Quote from: luisch on Aug 16, 2012, 05:25 AM
Genius x3 (I dont know who's the glass one)
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Drum Power...
PS. Aaron Harris looks like Josh Homme's (Queens of the Stone Age) brother or something.
anyone got the liquid metal interview with the whole band?
Woody Interviews Deftones at Knot Fest 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxzxKWoFG5k#ws)
Nothing too great :/
Deftones Interview at Knotfest - Backstage Entertainment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE8SxpTUD3M#ws)
that dude may be mentally ill. someone help out the slow kid and give him some good questions next time.
lol at ''fuckin badass''
Also i agree with Chino. Digital Bath is their best song for me.
He is right about ''Chi questions''
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LOL @ Chino thinking they released Diamond Eyes in 2009.
Quote from: luisch on Aug 21, 2012, 05:43 AM
Deftones Interview at Knotfest - Backstage Entertainment[/url]
i understand that it can be a painful drag for him/them with the chi questions again and again.however, what comes out of it is that the oneloveforchi site always get mentioned with it, so it will be a good advertisement for the page and the donations. but perhaps the interviewers should stop asking questions to chino, and instead just mention page so it won't be forgotten
The problem with that is people act on what bands say, not what interviewers say.
that's true. but it seems it's not working out for the band.best thing would be to continue as usual i guess,the band giving any updates, but instead of not saying anything, it could be the interviewers mentioning the site and donations and chino just adding something so he don't have to act like the doctor if that's the problem
I agree.
you can sympathize with chino if you've ever lost a friend. i know hes not dead but he is lost. and not every interviewer is a fan, they are there to get the low down on the band at the time, and that involves chi and how hes doing. so maybe chino needs to let it be known that oneloveforchi is the place to go and maybe the people interviewers can add a link to the interview. which will in turn bring traffic to oneloveforchi. if chino just says "oh chi the same" that will make people not want to check out oneloveforchi.com because they know hes in the same state as the last time they did an interview.
http://lifeandtimes.com/deftones-hear-now (http://lifeandtimes.com/deftones-hear-now)
it's Deftones, not THE Deftones... blahrgh
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 23, 2012, 11:05 PM
http://lifeandtimes.com/deftones-hear-now (http://lifeandtimes.com/deftones-hear-now)
That link is deceiving lol..
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 23, 2012, 11:05 PM
http://lifeandtimes.com/deftones-hear-now (http://lifeandtimes.com/deftones-hear-now)
good read, nice article.
Quote from: Corleone on Aug 23, 2012, 11:17 PM
it's Deftones, not THE Deftones... blahrgh
i hate when people do that. do they see an invisible "the" on the album covers or what
It's just a grammar thing... Deftones is a plural name, so you sometimes use the to make it sound more... correct, grammatically speaking. I do that too.
the vesanic is right
sometimes i used "the" on deftones too, cuz they are "the" mighty and "the" only one
seems there in the desert doing covers songs an the album is still mixing at the time of this interview
http://loudwire.com/deftones-complete-recording-new-album-prepare-cover-songs-session/ (http://loudwire.com/deftones-complete-recording-new-album-prepare-cover-songs-session/)
Deftones Complete Recording New Album, Prepare for Cover Songs Session
by: Chad Childers Yesterday
Deftones
Mary Ouellette, SheWillShootYou.com
Deftones have put in the work, and now they're going to have a little fun on top of it by recording a few cover songs. Singer Chino Moreno, interviewed by Minnesota radio station 93X prior to Knotfest, revealed that the group's forthcoming album has been recorded and they're now making plans for the covers.
The singer explained, "We're actually going at the end of this month into the desert, Death Valley we're gonna go and record for three days cause the record's done. It's been recorded, but usually at the end of the recording process we record a few covers, so we're going to go do that." Earlier this year, it was rumored that the band was considering songs from Earth, Wind & Fire and Elvis Presley for their covers.
While the actual recording sessions with producer Nick Raskulinecz are complete, Moreno says that they are holding off on announcing a street date for the disc. Even though Oct. 9 had been rumored, the singer says nothing can officially be revealed until one important detail has been finished.
He explained,"We don't have a specific date. We're actually in the process of having it mixed right now. So we're actually out here doing these shows and at the end of the night we get some mixes sent to us and we've been listening to 'em. Last night we listened to a couple, so we're just going back and forth with notes and trying to get 'em where we know they can be. So until we actually have the mixed record, I think it's hard for us to set a date."
Meanwhile, the band has booked an Oct. 10 performance at San Francisco's Warfield with Scars on Broadway. The group has a standing relationship with Scars' Daron Malakian, as Deftones just finished playing shows this summer with System of a Down. No further dates have been announced as of yet
This is all the same info from that Max 98.9 or whatever interview.
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http://www.noisecreep.com/2012/09/04/deftones-koi-no-yokan-interview/ (http://www.noisecreep.com/2012/09/04/deftones-koi-no-yokan-interview/)
Decent interview...
It really is starting to piss me off though that ever interviewer ask about Chi... They need to quit depressing the shit out of these guys. I'm sure if there is any significant improvement in Chi's health they will make a special announcement of that.
Quote from: deftoner664 on Sep 04, 2012, 07:36 PM
http://www.noisecreep.com/2012/09/04/deftones-koi-no-yokan-interview/ (http://www.noisecreep.com/2012/09/04/deftones-koi-no-yokan-interview/)
Decent interview...
It really is starting to piss me off though that ever interviewer ask about Chi... They need to quit depressing the shit out of these guys. I'm sure if there is any significant improvement in Chi's health they will make a special announcement of that.
No, this is not a decent interview. Just more repetitious, softball questions that don't offer anything new about the upcoming album, the band, anything. Same old questions, same old answers.
What JVell said.
Lame interview.
Quote from: JVell on Sep 04, 2012, 07:54 PM
Quote from: deftoner664 on Sep 04, 2012, 07:36 PM
http://www.noisecreep.com/2012/09/04/deftones-koi-no-yokan-interview/ (http://www.noisecreep.com/2012/09/04/deftones-koi-no-yokan-interview/)
Decent interview...
It really is starting to piss me off though that ever interviewer ask about Chi... They need to quit depressing the shit out of these guys. I'm sure if there is any significant improvement in Chi's health they will make a special announcement of that.
No, this is not a decent interview. Just more repetitious, softball questions that don't offer anything new about the upcoming album, the band, anything. Same old questions, same old answers.
Interviews have been stagnant for a several days, just posted it for the hell of it.. I didnt talk it up like there was any breaking news.
stop bitching about it. it was decent. thanks for posting deftoner664.
It's still a lame interview. But yeah, thanks for posting, of course.
I could really do with a track by track review by now.
not all, but a huge amount of interviews are meaningless and laughable like this.this one was not the worst though,in an interview not long ago they asked sergio what he thought about jumping in instead of chi (um...d.e question?) and not long ago they asked abe what he thought it was like to record a song with maynard on wp. seriously, they ask these questions in koi no yokan times? unbelievable.
I'm beginning to assume that the interviewers have better questions prepared, but just before the interview they are told that deftones don't want to talk about the new music too much bc they want it to be mysterious as long as possible,building a hype that way. which means that interviewers have to come up with something new quickly. I don't know, i just can't imagine that a question about wp which was interesting 12 years ago is carefully thought out and prepared for an interview in 2012 (as an example)
1700 posts and 100,000 words From Musings..Congrats Bro!
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I think you are on to something there musings. About the purposely dodging specifics about the new album. And I kind of like it being kept more mysterious.
Agreed. Track by track descriptions I would read, not gonna lie. That's why I don't want that released!!! Hope it doesn't leak either bc I wouldn't b able to control myself there either. i hate singles too for this reason, it raises expectations, kinda shapes em for me. ???
I'm the opposite, I want as much info as possible as soon as possible. I'm just that impatient. Cant lie though, I played Rocket Skates so much it was my least favorite song within one week of hearing the album.
4KKKK - Kerrang last week for System of a Down show
4KKKK - This week's Kerrang for Knotfest
dreading the setlist for the upcoming tour, it will be mostly DE songs and new songs plus a few greatest hits....say goodbye to any rare songs
Quote from: jaypayton on Sep 05, 2012, 09:29 PM
dreading the setlist for the upcoming tour, it will be mostly DE songs and new songs plus a few greatest hits....say goodbye to any rare songs
You never know dude, I know they played the first half of Fireal on the last run with SOAD, and that was a short set. Fingers crossed...
The days of variation in deftones sets are dead. Now is the time of repetitive set lists much like Tool do.
(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/809789IMG0731.jpg) (http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/202384IMG0780.jpg)
(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/495209IMG0750.jpg) (http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/987767IMG0748.jpg)
(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/776676IMG0739.jpg)
(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/355357IMG0729.jpg)
(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/792417IMG0733.jpg)
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Haha, comparing the last two is pretty funny.
Chongo and Chino
ha ha !!
Quote from: sing blue silver on Sep 06, 2012, 01:20 PM
The days of variation in deftones sets are dead. Now is the time of repetitive set lists much like Tool do.
And I'm afraid this is unfortunately true indeed.... :-\
On the last picture, Chino looks like he's farting a frozing beam.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 09, 2012, 02:10 PM
On the last picture, Chino looks like he's farting a frozing beam.
That he does, looks painful
Lol.
A tiny snippet from an upcoming article/interview:
http://www.metalhammer.co.uk/news/deftones-on-new-album-koi-no-yokan-its-been-like-when-were-were-kids-in-a-garage/ (http://www.metalhammer.co.uk/news/deftones-on-new-album-koi-no-yokan-its-been-like-when-were-were-kids-in-a-garage/)
I'm excited to hear some original ideas from sergio. I get what they're saying about him maybe not feeling comfortable throwing ideas in on DE. The bass on that album works for the songs but it certainly never stands out and he's really a good bass player. Excited to hear that 6 string thing he was using.
dude have you not heard the bassline in You've Seen the Butcher. Thats one of the most stand out bass parts on any deftones record ever. I have no idea what you mean when you say his bass parts are not stand out ish. I felt that his work on DE was fantastic and to this day I think the bass line to YSTB is one of the hottest bass lines on record.
If someone gets that Metal Hammer mag, they should post the info.
I'm thinking about running up to the Barnes & Nobles in a bit. If they have it, will report back.
Quote from: kitesvera on Sep 11, 2012, 05:39 PM
dude have you not heard the bassline in You've Seen the Butcher. Thats one of the most stand out bass parts on any deftones record ever. I have no idea what you mean when you say his bass parts are not stand out ish. I felt that his work on DE was fantastic and to this day I think the bass line to YSTB is one of the hottest bass lines on record.
I really dont know what you mean. The bassline on YSTB follows Stef's part, which is fantastic I agree.
I do think he's done a great job on Prince and Cmnd/Ctrl though. Just for the bass, the chorus in this last one is awesome.
Really looking forward to hear his parts on KNY.
YSTB follows the guitar, the bassy riff in prince is Stephen too I believe. He's great but I guess after being used to chi's bass parts it didn't stand out as much to me. Personal opinion.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Sep 12, 2012, 01:54 AM
YSTB follows the guitar, the bassy riff in prince is Stephen too I believe. He's great but I guess after being used to chi's bass parts it didn't stand out as much to me. Personal opinion.
Yeah that is just Stephen using his low strings just sounds like a bass. But I'm liking what I have heard on Roller Derby good to see him be less passive in Diamond Eyes he was playing real similar riffs to Stephen now he seems to have branched out on his own a bit looking forward to hearing how they work together now.
He was in Quicksand. Enough said really!
Quicksand is a fucking awesome band. Big fan!
Yes Quicksand are awesome. Love Vega' s work with Quicksand.
don´t know if these were posted already.some pics from wbr
http://theaudioperv.com/2012/07/30/deftones-727-wbr-summer-sessions-photos/ (http://theaudioperv.com/2012/07/30/deftones-727-wbr-summer-sessions-photos/)
Deftonesworld mentioned, yay!
Wait where did the Metal Hammer interview go? I swear someone typed out the whole thing and posted in this thread :(
Quote from: lozz on Sep 13, 2012, 02:09 PM
Wait where did the Metal Hammer interview go? I swear someone typed out the whole thing and posted in this thread :(
http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,15571.msg774772.html#msg774772 (http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,15571.msg774772.html#msg774772)
Anyone able to watch the video? Anything good?
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=179372&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blabbermouth+%28Blabbermouth.net%27s+Daily+Headlines%29 (http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=179372&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blabbermouth+%28Blabbermouth.net%27s+Daily+Headlines%29)
They got a 10,500 dollar copper sink installed in their tour bus. It has a quad water filter.. Other than that nothing is new. Oh and the interviewer is an idiot like usual.
Normally I don't get annoyed by interviewers but that guy was just annoying.
I love when they post deftones stories on blabbermouth so I can read all the "real metal heads" bitch about how awful deftones are.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Sep 13, 2012, 04:57 PM
I love when they post deftones stories on blabbermouth so I can read all the "real metal heads" bitch about how awful deftones are.
Blabbermouth. The only place with worse posters than here. Haha!
Jesus. That interviewer is a moron.
Cartman : I actually like that interviewer
Yeah, that interviewer is annoying!
here we go
http://www.antiquiet.com/news/2012/09/deftones-koi-no-yokan/ (http://www.antiquiet.com/news/2012/09/deftones-koi-no-yokan/)
Yes!
In the latest Guitar World, nothing too new. Some info about Entomb (dazzle)
(http://min.us/ijtFnMUFW8TzR)
(http://min.us/ihMtcPiRCzsl7)
(http://min.us/iqvQqUAo7Ag0d)
(http://min.us/iROvbrqagDpcA)
It'll be interesting to hear Stephen finger tapping and changing up his style.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Sep 14, 2012, 02:13 PM
In the latest Guitar World, nothing too new. Some info about Entomb (dazzle)
(http://min.us/ijtFnMUFW8TzR)
(http://min.us/ihMtcPiRCzsl7)
(http://min.us/iqvQqUAo7Ag0d)
(http://min.us/iROvbrqagDpcA)
It'll be interesting to hear Stephen finger tapping and changing up his style.
awesome thanks!
Deathtones I guess in relation to the tapping.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Sep 14, 2012, 02:13 PM
In the latest Guitar World, nothing too new. Some info about Entomb (dazzle)
(http://min.us/ijtFnMUFW8TzR)
(http://min.us/ihMtcPiRCzsl7)
(http://min.us/iqvQqUAo7Ag0d)
(http://min.us/iROvbrqagDpcA)
It'll be interesting to hear Stephen finger tapping and changing up his style.
Very interesting thank you !!
SO nice to see Steph step up his game and branch out. Next stop: face melting solos
Quote from: fuzzylogics on Sep 14, 2012, 03:44 PM
SO nice to see Steph step up his game and branch out. Next stop: face melting solos
haha he leaves that for the covers eventually :D
Quote from: sing blue silver on Sep 14, 2012, 02:13 PM
In the latest Guitar World, nothing too new. Some info about Entomb (dazzle)
(http://min.us/ijtFnMUFW8TzR)
(http://min.us/ihMtcPiRCzsl7)
(http://min.us/iqvQqUAo7Ag0d)
(http://min.us/iROvbrqagDpcA)
It'll be interesting to hear Stephen finger tapping and changing up his style.
Dude! bad ass! Stephen finger tapping?! never thought he'd step up his game in regard to technique on guitar lol
Finger tapping? I wasn't sure what that was so I looked it up. If it this, I'm interested. Sounds really nice.
Acoustic Guitar Solo - Finger Tapping - Jeff Williams (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq3a5PGLM1o#ws)
Quote from: sing blue silver on Sep 14, 2012, 02:13 PM
In the latest Guitar World, nothing too new.
It'll be interesting to hear Stephen finger tapping and changing up his style.
This sounds very intriguing.
Earlier today (Friday, September 14), Kevin Conklin (web site) of the 93.7 KCLB Rocks! radio station conducted an interview with DEFTONES turntablist/keyboardist Frank Delgado. You can now listen to the chat using the SoundCloud player below.
http://soundcloud.com/conklinradio/deftones-interview (http://soundcloud.com/conklinradio/deftones-interview)
Quote from: defsteve on Sep 14, 2012, 10:15 PM
Earlier today (Friday, September 14), Kevin Conklin (web site) of the 93.7 KCLB Rocks! radio station conducted an interview with DEFTONES turntablist/keyboardist Frank Delgado. You can now listen to the chat using the SoundCloud player below.
http://soundcloud.com/conklinradio/deftones-interview (http://soundcloud.com/conklinradio/deftones-interview)
Cool, thanks man. Good to hear the album title pronounced, so I don't sound like an idiot getting it wrong going forward.
Quote from: defsteve on Sep 14, 2012, 10:15 PM
Earlier today (Friday, September 14), Kevin Conklin (web site) of the 93.7 KCLB Rocks! radio station conducted an interview with DEFTONES turntablist/keyboardist Frank Delgado. You can now listen to the chat using the SoundCloud player below.
http://soundcloud.com/conklinradio/deftones-interview (http://soundcloud.com/conklinradio/deftones-interview)
Dope. Thanks for this.
Quote from: defsteve on Sep 14, 2012, 10:15 PM
Earlier today (Friday, September 14), Kevin Conklin (web site) of the 93.7 KCLB Rocks! radio station conducted an interview with DEFTONES turntablist/keyboardist Frank Delgado. You can now listen to the chat using the SoundCloud player below.
http://soundcloud.com/conklinradio/deftones-interview (http://soundcloud.com/conklinradio/deftones-interview)
Wow, I was so off with the pronounciation. lol Thanks.
It's pronounced how it looks.
Sounds like Purevolume is going to have an interview up with Chino and Sergio about Koi No Yokan soon.
Quote from: kitesvera on Sep 18, 2012, 03:38 AM
Sounds like Purevolume is going to have an interview up with Chino and Sergio about Koi No Yokan soon.
Where did you hear that?
Someone said Purevolume would have an interview up soon. Dont know if its true or not but my guess is one will surface...
Quote from: kitesvera on Sep 18, 2012, 04:31 AM
Someone said Purevolume would have an interview up soon. Dont know if its true or not but my guess is one will surface...
Simon ?
Sure Simon said so
New article, old video interview
http://www.nme.com/news/deftones/66172 (http://www.nme.com/news/deftones/66172)
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 18, 2012, 12:31 PM
Video interview
http://www.nme.com/news/deftones/66172 (http://www.nme.com/news/deftones/66172)
Awesome interview. Short but interesting. I like the way he refers to DE as a fresh start for the band, which it really is. I'm sure loving DE like you do Vesanic you'll agree. :P
Btw, nice to see these two looking alive during an interview, and to finally see Chino's eyes after so many interviews with the shades/rockstar attitude on.
PureVolume says soon on FB
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151160135804344&set=a.152910014343.111869.6369034343&type=1&theater (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151160135804344&set=a.152910014343.111869.6369034343&type=1&theater)
i have a hard time getting fired up over a 2 years old interview. trying though..
Quote from: Gee on Sep 18, 2012, 12:44 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 18, 2012, 12:31 PM
Video interview
http://www.nme.com/news/deftones/66172 (http://www.nme.com/news/deftones/66172)
thats old bro. "chi accident 2 years ago" "record out 6 months"
Awesome interview. Short but interesting. I like the way he refers to DE as a fresh start for the band, which it really is. I'm sure loving DE like you do Vesanic you'll agree. :P
Btw, nice to see these two looking alive during an interview, and to finally see Chino's eyes after so many interviews with the shades/rockstar attitude on.
its very old bro. "chi accident 2 years ago"
Ok then, my bad. Chino looking slimer, I should have figured.
Quote from: beaverwithfishyshoes on Sep 18, 2012, 12:53 PM
PureVolume says soon on FB
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151160135804344&set=a.152910014343.111869.6369034343&type=1&theater (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151160135804344&set=a.152910014343.111869.6369034343&type=1&theater)
nice
Quote from: Slacker on Sep 18, 2012, 05:26 PM
Quote from: beaverwithfishyshoes on Sep 18, 2012, 12:53 PM
PureVolume says soon on FB
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151160135804344&set=a.152910014343.111869.6369034343&type=1&theater (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151160135804344&set=a.152910014343.111869.6369034343&type=1&theater)
nice
Sergio looks old as hell in that still.
vega looks really into it... chino's like "jeez..calm down would ya.. were trying to be a cool band. we need to talk after this interview"
Vega looks old!
vega looks like this hahahahah
Best Cry Ever (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee925OTFBCA#ws)
First clip of this interview will be up today, it seems.
http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/2012/09/chino_moreno_deftones_new_album.php (http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/2012/09/chino_moreno_deftones_new_album.php)
Nothing new here really, just Chino saying that the sounds on the album range from Meshuggah to Depeche Mode...
Am i the only one , who doesn't really care anymore about interviews, album descriptions ( going from white pony to depeche mode to meshuggah ) and a song being released in advanced and just wants the freaking album
Quote from: kitesvera on Sep 19, 2012, 06:06 PM
http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/2012/09/chino_moreno_deftones_new_album.php (http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/2012/09/chino_moreno_deftones_new_album.php)
Nothing new here really, just Chino saying that the sounds on the album range from Meshuggah to Depeche Mode...
Just read that too
http://www.purevolume.com/news/Watch-Deftones-Reveal-Details-On-New-Free-MP3-Stream-Song-Leathers (http://www.purevolume.com/news/Watch-Deftones-Reveal-Details-On-New-Free-MP3-Stream-Song-Leathers)
Purevolume interview part 1.
Interview with Chino and Sergio up on crave
Didn't see this posted yet,sorry if it was
http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan (http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan)
they say part 2 gets posted next week,but at the end of the video,when more videos pop up part 2 is up,listed as part 1.Its got a 10 minute runtime.
Chino says Eros will be released "when the time is right"
Quote from: scatterbrain on Sep 20, 2012, 02:49 PM
Interview with Chino and Sergio up on crave
Didn't see this posted yet,sorry if it was
http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan (http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan)
they say part 2 gets posted next week,but at the end of the video,when more videos pop up part 2 is up,listed as part 1.Its got a 10 minute runtime.
Chino says Eros will be released "when the time is right"
nice. thank you.
Quote from: scatterbrain on Sep 20, 2012, 02:49 PM
Interview with Chino and Sergio up on crave
Didn't see this posted yet,sorry if it was
http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan (http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan)
they say part 2 gets posted next week,but at the end of the video,when more videos pop up part 2 is up,listed as part 1.Its got a 10 minute runtime.
Chino says Eros will be released "when the time is right"
Great, now I want to listen to Eros even more.
Quote from: Sett on Sep 20, 2012, 03:16 PM
Quote from: scatterbrain on Sep 20, 2012, 02:49 PM
Interview with Chino and Sergio up on crave
Didn't see this posted yet,sorry if it was
http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan (http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan)
they say part 2 gets posted next week,but at the end of the video,when more videos pop up part 2 is up,listed as part 1.Its got a 10 minute runtime.
Chino says Eros will be released "when the time is right"
Great, now I want to listen to Eros even more.
"...including the trap-door overload of new track "Romantic Dreams""
What do they mean?
Romantic Dreams sounds like its going to be a bad ass song
Quote from: x Rx King x on Sep 20, 2012, 03:22 PM
Quote from: Sett on Sep 20, 2012, 03:16 PM
Quote from: scatterbrain on Sep 20, 2012, 02:49 PM
Interview with Chino and Sergio up on crave
Didn't see this posted yet,sorry if it was
http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan (http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan)
they say part 2 gets posted next week,but at the end of the video,when more videos pop up part 2 is up,listed as part 1.Its got a 10 minute runtime.
Chino says Eros will be released "when the time is right"
Means it randomly changes mood/tempo and catches you off guard.
Great, now I want to listen to Eros even more.
"...including the trap-door overload of new track "Romantic Dreams""
What do they mean?
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Sep 20, 2012, 03:24 PM
Quote from: x Rx King x on Sep 20, 2012, 03:22 PM
Quote from: Sett on Sep 20, 2012, 03:16 PM
Quote from: scatterbrain on Sep 20, 2012, 02:49 PM
Interview with Chino and Sergio up on crave
Didn't see this posted yet,sorry if it was
http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan (http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan)
they say part 2 gets posted next week,but at the end of the video,when more videos pop up part 2 is up,listed as part 1.Its got a 10 minute runtime.
Chino says Eros will be released "when the time is right"
Great, now I want to listen to Eros even more.
"...including the trap-door overload of new track "Romantic Dreams""
What do they mean?
Means it randomly changes mood/tempo and catches you off guard.
thanks for posting! it was a long time since i've heard chino actually talk about eros music... not just about if it will be released or not...although not a whole lot came out of it, i'm just glad to hear him talk positively and excited about it :)
Quote from: scatterbrain on Sep 20, 2012, 02:49 PM
Interview with Chino and Sergio up on crave
Didn't see this posted yet,sorry if it was
http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan (http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan)
they say part 2 gets posted next week,but at the end of the video,when more videos pop up part 2 is up,listed as part 1.Its got a 10 minute runtime.
Chino says Eros will be released "when the time is right"
According to the interview it sounds like "Romantic Dreams" is going to be very interesting. I'm getting even more curious about KNY from minute to minute :D
Edit: Thanks for your post, by the way!
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Sep 20, 2012, 03:25 PM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Sep 20, 2012, 03:24 PM
Quote from: x Rx King x on Sep 20, 2012, 03:22 PM
Quote from: Sett on Sep 20, 2012, 03:16 PM
Quote from: scatterbrain on Sep 20, 2012, 02:49 PM
Interview with Chino and Sergio up on crave
Didn't see this posted yet,sorry if it was
http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan (http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan)
they say part 2 gets posted next week,but at the end of the video,when more videos pop up part 2 is up,listed as part 1.Its got a 10 minute runtime.
Chino says Eros will be released "when the time is right"
Great, now I want to listen to Eros even more.
"...including the trap-door overload of new track "Romantic Dreams""
What do they mean?
Means it randomly changes mood/tempo and catches you off guard.
Ah, ok. should be a pretty brutal song then. Thank God for the Eros news also... My spirits are high for the future.
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 20, 2012, 03:39 PM
thanks for posting! it was a long time since i've heard chino actually talk a bout eros music... not just about if it will be released or not...although not a whole lot came out of it, i'm just glad to hear him talk positively and excited about it :)
Yeah its great he still likes it I was worried that it wouldn't be as good to them anymore and they wouldn't want to release a subpar album.also good to hear their atleast thinking about eros.
yeah agree.. he could've been like "we'll see what happens, haven't thought about eros for a long time, right now we're in KOI NO YOKAN mode and we're excited about this one" trying to avoid the subject. but he just took his time, it's great
I like when the interviewer mentions romantic dreams and chino and Sergio are super excited to talk about it. I'd say it's probably one of their favorite tracks the way they talk about it
the second part is available now, too
http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan (http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan)
Quote from: luisch on Sep 20, 2012, 04:15 PM
the second part is available now, too
http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan (http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan)
yeah you gotta click on the icon in the interview!
Yeah, Romantic Dreams seems like its going to be the monster of the album,seems to be the most mentioned song so far,besides what we have heard and tempest.So hyped for to hear this.And dreams of hearing Eros are back.awesome.
Quote from: Slacker on Sep 20, 2012, 04:28 PM
Quote from: luisch on Sep 20, 2012, 04:15 PM
the second part is available now, too
http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan (http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan)
yeah you gotta click on the icon in the interview!
Can you post a direct link to Pt. 2
Part 2 is not up.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 20, 2012, 05:27 PM
Part 2 is not up.
According to Luisch it is. But I don't see this icon that was mentioned.
"Check back early next week for the second half on Part 2, where we further discuss songs on Koi No Yokan, including the trap-door overload of new track "Romantic Dreams"!"
Quote from: luisch on Sep 20, 2012, 04:15 PM
the second part is available now, too
http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan (http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan)
This is the post I was referring to.
Yeah and its says that part isnt coming til next week
Quote from: RollerDerby on Sep 20, 2012, 05:31 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 20, 2012, 05:27 PM
Part 2 is not up.
According to Luisch it is. But I don't see this icon that was mentioned.
yes its up. you gotta click in the icon that appears embeded in the lower part, around minute 7 or so. if you cant see it, you gotta reload the page and go there again.
if it wasnt up, why people would be commenting on "romantic dreams"? as it is discussed in the second part. i cant provide i direct link cause its embeded. look it up.
edit:
just click on the window in the bottom left, in it will load the second part:
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k53/Deftoniko_2006/secondpart_zps75282a5f.jpg)
or at the end, you can select the other video, see they are two available
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k53/Deftoniko_2006/endpart_zps550b41f7.jpg)
your right mybad i just found it
'IN AN APOCALYPTIC WORLD.." LOL CHINO IS FUNNAY
I am mobile, if I could get a direct link it would be greatly appreciated.
http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan (http://www.craveonline.com/music/articles/196335-interview-deftones-chino-moreno-a-sergio-vega-discuss-koi-no-yokan)
hmm seems like the same link already put up, hmm idk buddy maybe itll pop up on the tube later
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Sep 20, 2012, 05:42 PM
'IN AN APOCALYPTIC WORLD.." LOL CHINO IS FUNNAY
post-apocalyptic
Is it actually up? No icon shows up in the video on my phone. Cool to hear chino hasn't written off Eros. I though that album was dead to him.
Quote from: Slacker on Sep 20, 2012, 05:45 PM
Quote from: dictatesofreason on Sep 20, 2012, 05:42 PM
'IN AN APOCALYPTIC WORLD.." LOL CHINO IS FUNNAY
post-apocalyptic
mybad again either chino should of those epic voiceover guys
THE SEVENTH ALBUM!FIVE MEN! ONE BAND! heartbeat heartbeat KOI NO YOKAN
COMINF NOVEMBER 13TH
RATED R FOR RAD
Quote from: Slacker on Sep 20, 2012, 05:40 PM
Quote from: RollerDerby on Sep 20, 2012, 05:31 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 20, 2012, 05:27 PM
Part 2 is not up.
According to Luisch it is. But I don't see this icon that was mentioned.
yes its up. you gotta click in the icon that appers embeded in the lower part, around minute 7 or so. if you cant see it, you gotta reload the page and go there again.
if it wasnt up, why people would be commenting on "romantic dreams"? as it is discussed in the second part. i cant provide i direct link cause its embeded. look it up.
edit:
just click on the window in the bottom left, in it will load the second part:
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k53/Deftoniko_2006/secondpart_zps75282a5f.jpg)
That doesn't show up for mobile I suppose.
yeah i guess it isnt available for mobile
Quote from: Slacker on Sep 20, 2012, 05:57 PM
yeah i guess it isnt available for mobile
Fucking lame.
Oh we'll. I'll watch it after wok in 7 hours.
My bad.
Part 2 was interesting. They were asked about Romantic Dreams and all of the tempo changes. Sounds like that song is an absolute beast.
that interviewer is so boring though... i want a loud south american interviewer with a mohican haircut cut that yells spanish shit at me
Seems like Romantic Dreams is the one to look out for (although I'm very excited to hear Entombed). Funny, it has such a generic name too.
http://www.springboardplatform.com/mediaplayer/springboard/video/cr026/67/557793 (http://www.springboardplatform.com/mediaplayer/springboard/video/cr026/67/557793) Part 2 see if it works for you now mobile users as it doesn't require extra plugins for transitions just straight html access
What Chino said on this interview is what i felt when i first heard leathers.
Can't wait to hear the album.
Sergio already springing the grey hairs, I see...
Cool interview. Nice to hear what Sergio had to say and yeah, interesting stuff. Thanks for posting.
I wish the interviewer would've asked them more about the 2 b-sides, otherwise it was a cool interview.
They must have taken it down, it doesn't work for me now...
Quote from: deftoolsys07 on Sep 20, 2012, 08:59 PM
They must have taken it down, it doesn't work for me now...
yeah they want fame for the next week again
yup.its gone.oh well,early bird gets the worm.rest of yall gotta wait till next week.
lame. why split an interview into two parts?
maybe they aren't allowed to go into specifics on the album yet?
Probably so they can have repeat trafic next week.
I think they're keeping the interviews broken up so that we get a slow trickle of news every week leading up to the release of Tempest.
Actually I'm more curious to hear Flashback, since it being talked about & the fact that closes the record.
fuck! i missed the second part!!! :-\
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Sep 21, 2012, 02:55 AM
Actually I'm more curious to hear Flashback, since it being talked about & the fact that closes the record..
That name just sounds epic.would be nice if it clocked in around 7 minutues.would be cool if they jam that shit out like fireal and pink maggit.allways wished rivere was around 2 minutues longer.
They said something about Eros?
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 21, 2012, 05:22 AM
They said something about Eros?
Yea Chino said Abe played a few of the songs on his laptop the other week and it was the first time he had heard it in four years he said he forgot how heavy it is, he said he really liked one song in particular that was really heavy and dark not just sonically but lyrically and said hearing it took him back to those times and made him feel like he did back then and then he said it would be released when the time is right.
I like Riviere the way it is. It would lose some of its charm if it was long like Pink Maggit.
Thanks DeftonesNZ.
And I agree with bewareofrats.
Quote from: bewareofrats on Sep 21, 2012, 05:46 AM
I like Riviere the way it is. It would lose some of its charm if it was long like Pink Maggit.
You're probally right,I just never want that song to end......
It is what it is and that's a awesome song.
Sorry to get off topic
http://www.metalhammer.co.uk/podcast/metal-hammer-podcast-213-iron-maiden-at-download-deftones-new-album-previewed-bring-me-the-horizon-trolls/ (http://www.metalhammer.co.uk/podcast/metal-hammer-podcast-213-iron-maiden-at-download-deftones-new-album-previewed-bring-me-the-horizon-trolls/)
they talking a little bit about the new album in the beginning of the podcast
apparently its less heavy than diamond eyes lol
http://www.sacbee.com/2012/09/21/4836357/deftones-coming-to-town-with-stone.html (http://www.sacbee.com/2012/09/21/4836357/deftones-coming-to-town-with-stone.html)
Deftones coming to town with Stone Temple Pilots, Bush
By Chris Macias
cmacias@sacbee.com
Published: Friday, Sep. 21, 2012 - 12:00 am | Page 5TICKET
Together for nearly a quarter century, after humble beginnings in a south Sacramento garage, Deftones couldn't be busier. The band already spent a chunk of August touring with System of a Down, and is on the verge of a hometown show Sunday at Discovery Park that's co-headlined by Stone Temple Pilots and Bush.
Once October hits, Deftones will rev up the tour bus for another round of gigs across the country.
All of this rocking is a prelude to Nov. 13 – the day Deftones release their seventh studio album, "Koi No Yokan."
"It's a Japanese phrase that loosely means 'love at first sight,' " said singer Chino Moreno, on the phone from a Southern California recording studio. "We didn't go into the studio with this certain ideal. It just kind of happened, possibly because we're in a good place in our lives. It's a very optimistic sort of feeling."
Those sunny feelings follow the most harrowing times in Deftones' career, an otherwise successful run that has included a Grammy Award and the platinum-selling album "White Pony." Bassist Chi Cheng was nearly killed in a 2008 car accident and has remained in a coma ever since. The band soldiered on with help from former Quicksand bassist Sergio Vega and entered one of its most productive phases, both as a touring and recording band.
While Deftones were once fairly notorious for taking their sweet time in the studio, "Koi No Yokan" will arrive just two years after 2010's "Diamond Eyes."
"I've said it before, but if it wasn't for (Vega), I don't think we would've continued after Chi's accident," Moreno said. "Writing with him is awesome. He's a very enthusiastic person, and having new blood come in really psyches everyone up again. He's a great dude who motivates us, and we have a lot of respect for him."
Back in Sacramento, on a sweltering afternoon, drummer Abe Cunningham navigated his black Cadillac toward the new Zocalo restaurant in Roseville. Along with DJ Frank Delgado, Cunningham's the remaining Deftones member who lives in Sacramento. Moreno and guitarist Stephen Carpenter have lived in Southern California for years, while Vega calls New York home when he's not on Deftones duty.
Cunningham turns up the volume on his car stereo, which quickly fills with chunky guitar rhythms and Moreno's ethereal vocals. These are the nearly finished mixes of "Koi No Yokan," which even in their preliminary state sound especially full and dynamic.
"Check this one out – it's kind of like Pink Floyd," Cunningham said about one track with a spacey intro.
The new songs have such names as "Rosemary," "Dazzle" and "Swerve City," though some are working titles and could change by the time the album is released. The hallmark Deftones sounds are all there, magnified, even: a mix of beauty and guitar-and-drum bombast, keyboard and turntable soundscapes, all punctuated with Moreno's patented screams. They're songs that'll bang your head, and then soothe any neck pain via Moreno's vocal melodies and other dreamy textures.
"We've just been on a stride lately with the last record and this one," Cunningham said. "We've been maximizing our time. I think this is some of the best music we've ever done. Everyone always says that, but it's the truth. We have a respect for what we're able to do, and it feels great. There's still the craving to want to do it, and we have a blast."
Moreno also feels stoked about the new batch of songs. Deftones always has been heavy enough for hard-rock radio, but with enough twists and a diversity of influences to set the band apart from the typical head-banging hordes.
"We never go in with a preconceived idea of what record we're going to make," Moreno said. "We look at it like capturing three months of our lives together, and this is what it is. One word that always comes back is 'dynamic.' There's a lot of different moods, and I think people are really going to enjoy it."
The band might preview a couple new songs at Sunday's show but will likely focus on the back catalog that made Deftones one of the biggest acts to break from Sacramento. Though Moreno's a Southern California guy now, his heart remains in Sacramento – the city where Deftones got their start and then took on the world.
"That's my city," Moreno said. "I miss my buddies and my family in Sacto, and I get back pretty often. We were out with System of a Down getting our feet wet, and we are jazzed up to play."
Thanks for posting that although I did lose a bit of respect for Chino after he said Jazzed lol.
Umm Pink Floyd Vibe, I get the feeling long intros with slight guitar and frank effects, that lead into the songs and switches the mood in transitions, might give them more breath for the live performances especially as they're going from early 40s to their 50s now and Serge beeing a Silver Lion soon lol.
Jazzed, well Jazz isn't bad music, there's a lot of shabby nonsense nowadays so staying classical to musical elements is good better if they just use how music was intended with fresh elements instead of this horrorfying Dubstep and Drumcomputed stuff that many have put to either rmx's of deftones or those shitty bands that must extend to these crap officially just because they fail to be good enough to do it by hand live namingly Slipknot that has headlined deftones (such an insult) recently.
^haha this dude cracks me up thought chino was listening to jazz. and deftones are still in their 30's. stef might be 40 something sergio too
Quote from: deftones86 on Sep 21, 2012, 02:34 PM
^haha this dude cracks me up thought chino was listening to jazz. and deftones are still in their 30's. stef might be 40 something sergio too
Just leave him alone, he'll get it someday..
Chino and Abe born in '73, Stef, Chi and Frank born in '70 Vega is unspecified but I think he's the oldest of them all lol, that leads most of them at the Age of 42 now, then butter in those chitchat about Chino's Wheight, ignoring Stef's absolute Adonis Type of Human Body, dude's a Gladiator on Guitar still but soon he'll be a doctore type wipping out the best he can but seriously thought about how he'll look if he greys, like an icon as Bud Spencer, still favourite among a billion people :D
Quick search on twitter
http://instagram.com/p/P53tqtOAAx/ (http://instagram.com/p/P53tqtOAAx/)
https://mobile.twitter.com/rachelontheweb/status/249716381208166402?photo=1 (https://mobile.twitter.com/rachelontheweb/status/249716381208166402?photo=1)
http://instagram.com/p/P5y5_PIhm1/ (http://instagram.com/p/P5y5_PIhm1/)
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http://instagram.com/p/P54AH2ljWD/ (http://instagram.com/p/P54AH2ljWD/)
http://instagram.com/p/P52PwTr0nG/ (http://instagram.com/p/P52PwTr0nG/)
Gotta love Detones !!!
The font feels pretty DE but at the same time it feels great for these huge amphitheatre as it looks good from about any angle. Doesn't beat the curtain intro but still looks awesome with their very good light fx they have around for a decade.
It's just the SNW font bolded.. Which I suppose is the same as the DE font lol
I like the SNW font better... but that might just be because I like SNW more.
yeah the SNW imagery was pretty spacey i liked it
chino talked a bit patronizing about video suggestions like "in a post apocalyptic world ..." his attitude was a little "man, take that shit elsewhere". fair enough.he didnt like that suggestion.but the suggestions to fly around in space in a space pod and sing and dance on a skyscraper among breakdancers were ok? he was funny in that interview, but i still cannot wrap my head around what they think is silly and not when it comes to videos
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 24, 2012, 08:49 AM
chino talked a bit patronizing about video suggestions like "in a post apocalyptic world ..." his attitude was a little "man, take that shit elsewhere". fair enough.he didnt like that suggestion.but the suggestions to fly around in space in a space pod and sing and dance on a skyscraper among breakdancers were ok? he was funny in that interview, but i still cannot wrap my head around what they think is silly and not when it comes to videos
Yea in an other interview i saw the guys were talking about how much they hate doing videos and its more a thing of keep the record company happy but if they have to do it they should get that Andrew Bennett guy back his videos suit their style quite well no cheesy CGI or break dancing, But I can imagine what's its like with that type of music ,directors would want to make an epic 30 seconds to mars style video were I think the guys would want it simple with more focus on the music.
Talking about post apocalyptic, this interview really had me questioning the guys taste too !!
The white pony EPK is one of the best videos they had, compared to all the shitty Hole in the Earth, Mein, etc.
I really don't understand why they wouldn't want more things in this vein compared to random gay videos...
Quote from: tarkil on Sep 24, 2012, 10:57 AM
Talking about post apocalyptic, this interview really had me questioning the guys taste too !!
The white pony EPK is one of the best videos they had, compared to all the shitty Hole in the Earth, Mein, etc.
I really don't understand why they wouldn't want more things in this vein compared to random gay videos...
Fuck yes I love that epk but I guess their talking about the real cheesy sort of stuff or maybe they just want something new either way i would love more like that epk it fit so well, I don't know but im guessing they get alot of people gibing them the same stuff like well film at a castle or some shit. Id loved to see more stuff like Andrews unused Hexagram video.
Quote from: tarkil on Sep 24, 2012, 10:57 AM
The white pony EPK is one of the best videos they had
Yes it is. It's usually a deal breaker when trying to get someone into the deftones.
Generally though I prefer more simple videos like BQAD and Minerva; they show the deftones jamming in a cool environment without a bunch of weird shit going on.
Quote from: downtownpony on Sep 24, 2012, 04:31 PM
they show the deftones jamming in a cool environment without a bunch of weird shit going on.
umm they thought the same about Mein lol
Deftones Fuel New Album WIth Confidence Boost
Group talk System of a Down tour, cover songs
Chino Moreno of Deftones
By Steve Baltin
September 24, 2012 12:50 PM ET
In 2010, Sacramento, California quintet the Deftones released Diamond Eyes. Coming two years after the car accident that put bassist Chi Cheng in a coma, the album became the band's highest-charting record in a dozen years, debuting at number six and scoring some of the best reviews of the group's 20-plus-year career.
Sitting in a spacious lounge downstairs at the Burbank, California offices of their label, Warner Bros., frontman Chino Moreno tells Rolling Stone the success of that album was a big boost for the band when it came time to make their new work, Koi No Yokan.
"Because we got through making that record, it was so well received and we loved it, it was a confidence-builder [for] all of us as a band," Moreno says. "So when we went in to make this record, I think we carried a lot of that over with us. There was no doubt."
Moreno gives a huge amount of credit to bassist Sergio Vega, who joined the band for some shows prior to Diamond Eyes. "When he came in, he was excited. And that shit fuels the hell out of me, and I know the rest of the guys," he says. "It's definitely kicked some life into this whole thing, and we really appreciate him for that. If it hadn't been for Sergio as a person, and as the bass player he is, I don't foresee us sitting here right now talking about a Deftones record. He totally invigorated the whole thing, and still continues to every day."
Vega's enthusiasm is on display as he talks about continuing the creative momentum from the last album. "Diamond Eyes was capturing lightning in a bottle. We had just come together, had a lot of constraints in terms of time, so we're just banging things out," he recalls. "This time we had a little more chance to experiment and just play."
The result is a widely shifting sonic journey that traverses heavy atmosphere and jarring riffs. But Moreno still views the album as a complete piece. "It's not like every song is so different that if you hear one song, then you hear the next one and you're like, 'What is this?'" he says. "It feels like a cohesive piece of work."
Diamond Eyes was an eye-opener for the band in terms of how they approach songwriting, and they followed that same technique again. "It was the catalyst for us figuring out it's not like pulling teeth to make music," says Moreno. "A couple records before that we were really in that mode, where writing songs started to become hard. Where Diamond Eyes, the way that we actually worked, it was a real communal effort, where everybody was in the room at one time and we just played off each other."
It was such a relaxed process for the group that they came out with extra songs written, something Moreno says almost never happens. Even with the added material, the quintet will be recording covers, as has become their trademark. If Moreno knows what songs they'll be doing, he's not telling. But he does say the band might move out of their comfort zone for a few songs.
"I think people expect us to do Eighties shit, [but] I'm a big fan of music from the Forties and Fifties, just standard-ish type of things, so we talked about doing something in that thing," he says. Seventies, too: "I was listening to this group Malo, which is sort of a Santana-ish type of thing. There's a lot of jamming and solos in there, which is something we don't do too much."
The band kicks off a tour October 9th in Ventura, California with opening act Scars on Broadway, which features System of a Down guitarist Daron Malakian. The Deftones and Malakian toured together earlier this year when System and the Deftones paired up.
"Just to tour with System was a really cool thing," says Moreno. "They came out around the same time we did and they, like us, never really fit into the mold of what we got thrown into. We were considered a nu-metal band – we still probably are by a lot of people. And I think people say the same thing about System of a Down, but as an outsider I feel they are completely their own entity. And I hope we could be the same way. Daron's awesome, I like Scars just as well. It's an awesome fit."
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/deftones-fuel-new-album-with-confidence-boost-20120924#ixzz27PPuoOqD (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/deftones-fuel-new-album-with-confidence-boost-20120924#ixzz27PPuoOqD)
so they still haven't recorded the cover songs yet? That was supposed to be done at the end of last month. :-\
Quote from: M1GHTY M4VS on Sep 24, 2012, 04:58 PM
Quote from: downtownpony on Sep 24, 2012, 04:31 PM
they show the deftones jamming in a cool environment without a bunch of weird shit going on.
umm they thought the same about Mein lol
Mein wasn't bad except for the breakdancing, which I think constitutes "weird shit going on".
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 24, 2012, 08:49 AM
chino talked a bit patronizing about video suggestions like "in a post apocalyptic world ..." his attitude was a little "man, take that shit elsewhere". fair enough.he didnt like that suggestion.but the suggestions to fly around in space in a space pod and sing and dance on a skyscraper among breakdancers were ok? he was funny in that interview, but i still cannot wrap my head around what they think is silly and not when it comes to videos
Some post apocalyptic bullshit
would seem too cheesy for deftones.
Leave shit like that to bands like Metallica.
the WPepk was somewhat in the post apocaylptic world, perhaps a dystopian type but still that is the best promo to date
DEFTONES TALK NEW ALBUM KOI NO YOKAN AND EPICENTER FESTIVAL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XOi-OkBHi8#ws)
Quote from: Cropduster on Sep 24, 2012, 06:13 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 24, 2012, 08:49 AM
chino talked a bit patronizing about video suggestions like "in a post apocalyptic world ..." his attitude was a little "man, take that shit elsewhere". fair enough.he didnt like that suggestion.but the suggestions to fly around in space in a space pod and sing and dance on a skyscraper among breakdancers were ok? he was funny in that interview, but i still cannot wrap my head around what they think is silly and not when it comes to videos
Some post apocalyptic bullshit would seem too cheesy for deftones.
Leave shit like that to bands like Metallica.
example: St. Flanger... Jesus...
http://www.craveonline.com/music/interviews/196679-deftones-interview-part-2-chino-a-sergio-discuss-koi-no-yokan (http://www.craveonline.com/music/interviews/196679-deftones-interview-part-2-chino-a-sergio-discuss-koi-no-yokan)
Quote from: vinsanity on Sep 25, 2012, 12:17 PM
DEFTONES TALK NEW ALBUM KOI NO YOKAN AND EPICENTER FESTIVAL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XOi-OkBHi8#ws)
Thanks. Funny Abe.
Quote from: Heisenberg on Sep 25, 2012, 09:55 PM
http://www.craveonline.com/music/interviews/196679-deftones-interview-part-2-chino-a-sergio-discuss-koi-no-yokan (http://www.craveonline.com/music/interviews/196679-deftones-interview-part-2-chino-a-sergio-discuss-koi-no-yokan)
thanks so much, been looking everywhere for this
Quote from: vinsanity on Sep 25, 2012, 12:17 PM
DEFTONES TALK NEW ALBUM KOI NO YOKAN AND EPICENTER FESTIVAL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XOi-OkBHi8#ws)
scott weiland sang on rx queen?
EDIT: sings in the bridge.
Quote from: Heisenberg on Sep 25, 2012, 09:55 PM
http://www.craveonline.com/music/interviews/196679-deftones-interview-part-2-chino-a-sergio-discuss-koi-no-yokan (http://www.craveonline.com/music/interviews/196679-deftones-interview-part-2-chino-a-sergio-discuss-koi-no-yokan)
Deftones - Chino Moreno & Sergio Vega Interview, Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nDof9jRMXs#ws)
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 26, 2012, 04:33 AM
Quote from: vinsanity on Sep 25, 2012, 12:17 PM
DEFTONES TALK NEW ALBUM KOI NO YOKAN AND EPICENTER FESTIVAL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XOi-OkBHi8#ws)
scott weiland sang on rx queen?
EDIT: sings in the bridge.
I never knew. Kinda neat.
I knew about him being on Rx Queen never really heard it though
Quote from: sing blue silver on Sep 26, 2012, 11:06 AM
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 26, 2012, 04:33 AM
Quote from: vinsanity on Sep 25, 2012, 12:17 PM
DEFTONES TALK NEW ALBUM KOI NO YOKAN AND EPICENTER FESTIVAL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XOi-OkBHi8#ws)
scott weiland sang on rx queen?
EDIT: sings in the bridge.
I never knew. Kinda neat.
it says so in the booklet of the physical copy of white pony. that info has always been there. why u no buy,why u no read?
Quote from: downtownpony on Sep 24, 2012, 06:00 PM
weird shit going on
this must be the weirdest moment in any deftones video
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy20/from_musings/chino-dances_o_GIFSoup_com.gif)
Metal Hammer Podcast 213 Part 1: New Deftones Album Koi No Yokan Previewed! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j3Wuq4x_L0#ws)
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 26, 2012, 11:26 AM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Sep 26, 2012, 11:06 AM
Quote from: lungdamage on Sep 26, 2012, 04:33 AM
Quote from: vinsanity on Sep 25, 2012, 12:17 PM
DEFTONES TALK NEW ALBUM KOI NO YOKAN AND EPICENTER FESTIVAL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XOi-OkBHi8#ws)
scott weiland sang on rx queen?
EDIT: sings in the bridge.
I never knew. Kinda neat.
it says so in the booklet of the physical copy of white pony. that info has always been there. why u no buy,why u no read?
I haven't read the white pony booklet since I was like 15 and probably didn't know who Scott Weiland was back then. I'll check one of my 5 copies later.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Sep 26, 2012, 01:21 PM
I haven't read the white pony booklet since I was like 15 and probably didn't know who Scott Weiland was back then. I'll check one of my 5 copies later.
five of them - that's awesome. i've only got 1, the red one (and 2 LP's)
Anyway:
Chino: "RX Queen - "The most futuristic sounding song. Abe and I created the drum loop - its a crazy, bionic rhythm. I wrote a seedy guitarline over it, and worked with Scott Weiland (stone temple pilots)on the vocals for for the bridge. he came up with a really cool harmony for me to sing"
http://www.deftonesworld.com/www-deftones-com-may-2000-chino-thoughts/ (http://www.deftonesworld.com/www-deftones-com-may-2000-chino-thoughts/)
in part II when sergio compares making songs on koi no yokan - to life, the way he did it - was it a little too much/over the top for you guys? like "huh? it's just some guys in a studio putting power chords in an certain order and then a dude sings a melody to it" ...or did it make perfect sense?
He goes a bit over the top compared to the other guys they just say its like friends hanging round making music and jamming where as sergio goes on about the song being organic its good to hes got lots of enthusiasm though probably helps the albums come out faster.
Meh. Sergio is just like that. He's an excitable little fella.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Sep 26, 2012, 02:28 PM
He goes a bit over the top compared to the other guys they just say its like friends hanging round making music and jamming where as sergio goes on about the song being organic its good to hes got lots of enthusiasm though probably helps the albums come out faster.
yeah he's pretty enthusiastic. no doubt that's a good thing when making records, probably spreads to the other guys, they get energy from it. but the music is made, i'm talking about what you say about it in interviews.. maybe a person can be hyped without sounding pretentious? not a big thing... it really is a big contrast to the other members who are more down to earth though. imagine steph speaking like that, that would be weird
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 26, 2012, 02:14 PM
in part II when sergio compares making songs on koi no yokan - to life, the way he did it - was it a little too much/over the top for you guys? like "huh? it's just some guys in a studio putting power chords in an certain order and then a dude sings a melody to it" ...or did it make perfect sense?
I thought it was awesome... the whole conversation was really cool, I think Sergio was explaining what the deftones always try to do but he was just more articulate than the rest of the band, you can see Chino wants to talk but then just starts listening himself when they are talking about Romantic Dreams
i have nothing against deep people, ppl who are passionate about their art, or want to hype up an album etc... but there is a border when it can go over to the ridiculous. I'm not saying he did pass it necessarily, I just know that I reacted to his speech and wondered if anyone else did react to it. he was pushing that border though :) but yeah,both part 1 and 2 were good stuff i think
Sergio would definitely b ann oying for me to hang around to long. Tries way too hard, lol. Sounds really feminine too
Man you guys are straight up dicks. Let's not forget that without Vega there would likely be no band anymore.
An personally i find his interviews the most insightful. Not just a bunch of "you know, you know, it's dynamic, you know."
Quote from: Shadow46/2 on Sep 26, 2012, 10:49 PM
Man you guys are straight up dicks. Let's not forget that without Vega there would likely be no band anymore.
An personally i find his interviews the most insightful. Not just a bunch of "you know, you know, it's dynamic, you know."
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thats why i care less when an interview comes out its pretty much the same stuff, which in the bands defense they are prolly tired of the damn interviews anyways
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Sep 26, 2012, 10:38 PM
Sergio would definitely b ann oying for me to hang around to long. Tries way too hard, lol. Sounds really feminine too
Who cares. What has he done yet that's wrong to you? Why are you taking personal shots at him too lol. Why not mention all the GOOD he's done, like help keep this band alive and kicking. That seems a lot more notable to me?? Cmon sonnnn! You'd kick it with him all the damn time and shoot the shit if you had a chance, don't even kid yourself. It's pretty soulless to be annoyed by ones passion in my opinion.
Vega is the man, period.
Agreed. I'm a fan. It's unfortunate that he's in the band for obvious reasons but I've really grown to respect him and see him as more than a stand in. He could and never will really replace Chi as the true Deftones bass player but his passion and excitement get me excited too. I'm very thankful that he stepped up to the plate. I mean nobody is going to say no to being in this band but he's gone above and beyond the call of duty. Just an all around likeable guy. Was a pleasure to meet him.
Yeah, it's great everything Sergio has done. He seems like a great fit and brings a chemistry, energy to the band. I enjoy hearing what he has to say in interviews.
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 26, 2012, 02:14 PM
in part II when sergio compares making songs on koi no yokan - to life, the way he did it - was it a little too much/over the top for you guys? like "huh? it's just some guys in a studio putting power chords in an certain order and then a dude sings a melody to it" ...or did it make perfect sense?
It was over-the-top in how he spoke about it, but I thought it was kwl, it's obvious he's passionate about the whole thing and is enjoying it. I think it's just his personality, he always seems happy and hyped up and excited, so if that's how he is naturally, I dont think he should ever tone it down for other ppl's sake.
Personally, I don't think he was over the top enough. He should have pushed Chino offscreen and then started hyperventilating while loudly yelling about how making music is similar to being sucked into a happy vortex.
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Sep 26, 2012, 10:38 PMSounds really feminine too
What's wrong with that?! ???
Thought it was a great interview, nice to see some fucking passion...
Quote from: TheShade1989 on Sep 27, 2012, 02:07 AM
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 26, 2012, 02:14 PM
in part II when sergio compares making songs on koi no yokan - to life, the way he did it - was it a little too much/over the top for you guys? like "huh? it's just some guys in a studio putting power chords in an certain order and then a dude sings a melody to it" ...or did it make perfect sense?
It was over-the-top in how he spoke about it, but I thought it was kwl, it's obvious he's passionate about the whole thing and is enjoying it. I think it's just his personality, he always seems happy and hyped up and excited, so if that's how he is naturally, I dont think he should ever tone it down for other ppl's sake.
good answer.and thanks for taking your time on this trivial matter. i think i'm ready to move on now
New Interview
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=180029 (http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=180029)
Not saying a lot,just the meaning of the name CD,the single coming up in the future weeks,Eros scrapped and that is it.
Quote from: Cropduster on Sep 27, 2012, 06:02 AM
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Sep 26, 2012, 10:38 PMSounds really feminine too
What's wrong with that?! ???
Thought it was a great interview, nice to see some fucking passion...
Sorry forgot to add that he does do a better job in interviews as far as giving details and thorough descriptions to us. I just kinda agree w some that he is too much w the intellectual bullshit for myself. Guess I'm stupid bc I know that ones coming from one of u next, lol HE'S ANNOYING TO ME.
Quote from: shoop on Sep 26, 2012, 11:28 PM
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Sep 26, 2012, 10:38 PM
Sergio would definitely b ann oying for me to hang around to long. Tries way too hard, lol. Sounds really feminine too
Who cares. What has he done yet that's wrong to you? Why are you taking personal shots at him too lol. Why not mention all the GOOD he's done, like help keep this band alive and kicking. That seems a lot more notable to me?? Cmon sonnnn! You'd kick it with him all the damn time and shoot the shit if you had a chance, don't even kid yourself. It's pretty soulless to be annoyed by ones passion in my opinion.
omg, I was so mean. Im thankful for Sergio, I just simply stated that he's a nerd ok? chill holmes, Im not a cold shell. And I HAVE praised him a whole lot on his musical efforts if u wanna dig.......not like everyone here takes worse shots at each other, lol. So bc he's Sergio frkn Vega, he's untouchable from me saying its annoying how elaborate his responses to questions are? SORRY yall. Ill make it up to u sometime in the future.Was it that bad? read it again And no I wldnt kick it with him if he wasn't in Deftones right now either.
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Sep 27, 2012, 11:19 PM
Quote from: shoop on Sep 26, 2012, 11:28 PM
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Sep 26, 2012, 10:38 PM
Sergio would definitely b ann oying for me to hang around to long. Tries way too hard, lol. Sounds really feminine too
Who cares. What has he done yet that's wrong to you? Why are you taking personal shots at him too lol. Why not mention all the GOOD he's done, like help keep this band alive and kicking. That seems a lot more notable to me?? Cmon sonnnn! You'd kick it with him all the damn time and shoot the shit if you had a chance, don't even kid yourself. It's pretty soulless to be annoyed by ones passion in my opinion.
omg, I was so mean. Im thankful for Sergio, I just simply stated that he's a nerd ok? chill holmes, Im not a cold shell. And I HAVE praised him a whole lot on his musical efforts if u wanna dig.......not like everyone here takes worse shots at each other, lol. So bc he's Sergio frkn Vega, he's untouchable from me saying its annoying how elaborate his responses to questions are? SORRY yall. Ill make it up to u sometime in the future.Was it that bad? read it again And no I wldnt kick it with him if he wasn't in Deftones right now either.
Noone's attacking you lol it's not like we're all insulting you for speaking your opinion, just that responding with another opinion is how conversation works. He does seem like a bit of a nerd, but I like that, it's better than one-word answers. Plus, he seems like a nice, friendly guy, so at least he's not an asshole.
My favorite part of that interview with Chino and Sergio was when the interviewer asked Sergio a question about bass, so Chino passes the mic to him. The interviewer asks another question which Chino looks excited to answer, so he quickly grabs the mic back from Sergio. But then Sergio blurts an answer anyway before Chino gets a word out, so Chino ends up giving the mic back to him.
Just saw the Crave Online interview again, and could this time hear it...awesome, I'm really excited about this new album!
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Sep 27, 2012, 11:15 PM
HE'S ANNOYING TO ME.
well... that's your opinion... and on this forum you should be able to say so without ppl losing their shit. however, personally it's not so much about him being annoying or not. it's if he's good to have in interviews or not (interview thread,ok?) I can understand that sergio's energy is contagious, especially if the other bandmembers are bored in interviews. he could be like a breeze of fresh air. many ppl are saying sergio has a lot of "passion", and I like to see my favorite artists being passionate about their music, and that they care about what they do. so passion itself is good,but it's about what you do with it and how you handle that passion.
the danger in interviews could be that it can become too far-fetched, too often - if this is the way he always is. and if it's not making any sense,after a while you will only listen to sergio being sergio, a guy who just likes to ramble in big words and huge metaphors no matter what the question is,it becomes a spectacle that leaves the questions unanswered - it's not about info anymore.it's all about sounding fancy. if he always keeps on saying that everything is super good in these ways,then his answers will become a show without substance, and you will know even before he answers a question that there will be a positive far exaggerated response, but all we want is info. "chill dude it's just who he is" . yes i agree, let everyone be who they are. really. but is he good for interviews?
maybe he's always like this. like if chino and vega would be at mcdonalds and chino asked him how the cheeseburger was,sergio would probably say something like "the bread on top is like heaven,the seeds on it are like stars on the night sky, the bread at the bottom is like hell, and the meat in the middle is the earth.. so when they all meet in my belly it's like getting the whole universe within me in just a few bites.. i'm becoming one with the universe"
maybe it's a "passionate" answer, but it could also be seen as a silly answer. because: it's just a goddamn cheeseburger. some questions requires simple straight forward answers, that means when the big answers come, they will be more credible, and we will embrace those answers more if there is more of a balance. anyway, it's just interviews, i'm happy that deftones seem so happy with his company/making music with him, and that's what's important. i think i'm ready to move on now
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 28, 2012, 04:29 PM
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Sep 27, 2012, 11:15 PM
HE'S ANNOYING TO ME.
well... that's your opinion... and on this forum you should be able to say so without ppl losing their shit. however, personally it's not so much about him being annoying or not. it's if he's good to have in interviews or not (interview thread,ok?) I can understand that sergio's energy is contagious, especially if the other bandmembers are bored in interviews. he could be like a breeze of fresh air. many ppl are saying sergio has a lot of "passion", and I like to see my favorite artists being passionate about their music, and that they care about what they do. so passion itself is good,but it's about what you do with it and how you handle that passion.
the danger in interviews could be that it can become too far-fetched, too often - if this is the way he always is. and if it's not making any sense,after a while you will only listen to sergio being sergio, a guy who just likes to ramble in big words and huge metaphors no matter what the question is,it becomes a spectacle that leaves the questions unanswered - it's not about info anymore.it's all about sounding fancy. if he always keeps on saying that everything is super good in these ways,then his answers will become a show without substance, and you will know even before he answers a question that there will be a positive far exaggerated response, but all we want is info. "chill dude it's just who he is" . yes i agree, let everyone be who they are. really. but is he good for interviews?
maybe he's always like this. like if chino and vega would be at mcdonalds and chino asked him how the cheeseburger was,sergio would probably say something like "the bread on top is like heaven,the seeds on it are like stars on the night sky, the bread at the bottom is like hell, and the meat in the middle is the earth.. so when they all meet in my belly it's like getting the whole universe within me in just a few bites.. i'm becoming one with the universe"
maybe it's a "passionate" answer, but it could also be seen as a silly answer. because: it's just a goddamn cheeseburger. some questions requires simple straight forward answers, that means when the big answers come, they will be more credible, and we will embrace those answers more if there is more of a balance. anyway, it's just interviews, i'm happy that deftones seem so happy with his company/making music with him, and that's what's important. i think i'm ready to move on now
Or maybe he likes to over-analyze things.
hehe... this is a discussion board for over analyzing fans though ;) he's a working man in a business
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 27, 2012, 11:55 PM
My favorite part of that interview with Chino and Sergio was when the interviewer asked Sergio a question about bass, so Chino passes the mic to him. The interviewer asks another question which Chino looks excited to answer, so he quickly grabs the mic back from Sergio. But then Sergio blurts an answer anyway before Chino gets a word out, so Chino ends up giving the mic back to him.
yeah i was bummed out about that too. let chino talk when it's his turn you know.
anyway, i'm ready to move on now
You were bummed out about it? I thought it was hilarious.
It seems to me like a lot of musicians do this. Makes sense, you should be excited about the art you made.
Why do people keep asking about the album title meaning? Can't they read about this shit. I just wonder if they're really fans.
i can see how it could be a nice little ice breaker to start of a long koi no yokan interview, like the part 1,2 interview.
but recently, when they had a 3 minute interview with abe and frank, they talked about the title for like 2 minutes.
didn't like it
Quote from: xToxin on Sep 28, 2012, 07:10 PM
Why do people keep asking about the album title meaning? Can't they read about this shit. I just wonder if they're really fans.
I've often wondered if interviewers do any kind of research before an interview. It gets old hearing "can you give us an update on chi?" And "will we hear anything from Eros?"
Quote from: TheShade1989 on Sep 27, 2012, 11:31 PM
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Sep 27, 2012, 11:19 PM
Quote from: shoop on Sep 26, 2012, 11:28 PM
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Sep 26, 2012, 10:38 PM
Sergio would definitely b ann oying for me to hang around to long. Tries way too hard, lol. Sounds really feminine too
Who cares. What has he done yet that's wrong to you? Why are you taking personal shots at him too lol. Why not mention all the GOOD he's done, like help keep this band alive and kicking. That seems a lot more notable to me?? Cmon sonnnn! You'd kick it with him all the damn time and shoot the shit if you had a chance, don't even kid yourself. It's pretty soulless to be annoyed by ones passion in my opinion.
omg, I was so mean. Im thankful for Sergio, I just simply stated that he's a nerd ok? chill holmes, Im not a cold shell. And I HAVE praised him a whole lot on his musical efforts if u wanna dig.......not like everyone here takes worse shots at each other, lol. So bc he's Sergio frkn Vega, he's untouchable from me saying its annoying how elaborate his responses to questions are? SORRY yall. Ill make it up to u sometime in the future.Was it that bad? read it again And no I wldnt kick it with him if he wasn't in Deftones right now either.
Noone's attacking you lol it's not like we're all insulting you for speaking your opinion, just that responding with another opinion is how conversation works. He does seem like a bit of a nerd, but I like that, it's better than one-word answers. Plus, he seems like a nice, friendly guy, so at least he's not an asshole.
holy shit, u have an opinion too. omgawd moving on now
Quote from: Shadow46/2 on Sep 28, 2012, 06:27 PM
Makes sense, you should be excited about the fart you made.
LOOOOOOOOOL
interesting...
http://instagram.com/p/QAMws2vp-h/ (http://instagram.com/p/QAMws2vp-h/)
not sure if this has been posted http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/interviews/ug_special_exclusive_interview_with_deftones.html (http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/interviews/ug_special_exclusive_interview_with_deftones.html)
http://whfs.radio.com/2012/10/01/deftones-chino-moreno-talks-koi-no-yokan-discusses-scrapped-eros-album/ (http://whfs.radio.com/2012/10/01/deftones-chino-moreno-talks-koi-no-yokan-discusses-scrapped-eros-album/)
Working title for leathers was layers of ash. Glad they changed that.
Tempest is described as dark. I like that.
Yeah but sometimes interviewers use that loosely. It can't be too dark if the label wanted it to be the leading single.
Quote from: Playhouse on Oct 01, 2012, 08:24 AM
not sure if this has been posted http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/interviews/ug_special_exclusive_interview_with_deftones.html (http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/interviews/ug_special_exclusive_interview_with_deftones.html)
that was a good interview, thanks for sharing ;)
Interviewer: You had made comments that "Koi No Yokan" reminded you of the "White Pony" album. Is that an accurate statement?
Chino: I don't really remember saying that. I might have said it once and I'm not saying I didn't say it. If I did say it, I don't remember why I said it.
Chino: Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
Dude must've been on flowers...
if people didnt see the other link
Deftones' Chino Moreno Interview with Rich Rubin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GupTGyjwm6U#ws)
Quote from: Playhouse on Oct 01, 2012, 08:24 AM
not sure if this has been posted http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/interviews/ug_special_exclusive_interview_with_deftones.html (http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/interviews/ug_special_exclusive_interview_with_deftones.html)
Great interview indeed, for once, the interviewer didn't ask too many useless questions out of his ass, and seemed to have done some research beforehand.
Very interesting
yeah, nice one.
http://www.purevolume.com/news/deftones-new-single-tempest-koi-no-yokan-stream-premiere (http://www.purevolume.com/news/deftones-new-single-tempest-koi-no-yokan-stream-premiere)
(http://g.purevolumecdn.com/cdnImages/resize_800x533/Article-5729174-photocredit13thwitnessextralarge_1348257811596.jpeg)
i'm disappointed in stephan for being a conspiracy theorist :/.
the place is good the picture is terrible..
couldnt they find someone better on photography?
Quote from: slyartwork on Oct 03, 2012, 08:55 PM
(http://g.purevolumecdn.com/cdnImages/resize_800x533/Article-5729174-photocredit13thwitnessextralarge_1348257811596.jpeg)
abe has baby feet haha
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Oct 03, 2012, 11:06 PM
the place is good the picture is terrible..
couldnt they find someone better on photography?
Look at all of their expressions too, at least those you can see. It almost looks like they're frustrated, too... Like "we've been out here for 12 hours! Get a good shot!"
(http://www.panelsonpages.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/faith1-2010-04.jpg)
Is that Faith album any good?
Quote from: alan1o on Oct 03, 2012, 11:00 PM
i'm disappointed in stephan for being a conspiracy theorist :/.
...for real man.C'mon now,we all know a Gribbel.
(http://i.imgur.com/IiUXk.jpg)
New Interview:
http://www.myspace.com/whats-hot/2012/10/4/exclusive-the-deftones-talk-new-album-tour (http://www.myspace.com/whats-hot/2012/10/4/exclusive-the-deftones-talk-new-album-tour)
http://www.nme.com/news/deftones/66472?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=twitter-deftonesdubstep (http://www.nme.com/news/deftones/66472?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=twitter-deftonesdubstep)
"Chino Not a Fan of Dubstep" lol
Quote from: Playhouse on Oct 04, 2012, 11:33 PM
New Interview:
http://www.myspace.com/whats-hot/2012/10/4/exclusive-the-deftones-talk-new-album-tour (http://www.myspace.com/whats-hot/2012/10/4/exclusive-the-deftones-talk-new-album-tour)
gotta love abe's answer:
QuoteIs there anything special you're planning for the tour?
Abe: We're going to all the animal shelters in each city and getting kittens and giving them to the fans. We're going to throw them out in the crowd.
;D ;D
Hahaha. I like it.
Deftones' Chino Moreno Discusses Favourite Songs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTzr4o9uS-s#ws)
great
Quote from: Playhouse on Oct 05, 2012, 02:09 AM
Deftones' Chino Moreno Discusses Favourite Songs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTzr4o9uS-s#ws)
Tarentel - Two Sides of Myself (Part I)
Perry Como - The Rosary
I Monster - Heaven
Tortoise - Crest
Mia - Caps Lock
Tarentel - Two Sides of Myself (Part II)
Dr. Octagon - Blue Flowers
Meshuggah - New Millenium Cyanide Christ
Telefon Tel Aviv - Mostly Translucent
Bohren & Der Club of Gore - On Demon Wings
[spoiler]http://youtu.be/8OkbSvk93Qk
http://youtu.be/tkxiMVh1qJ4?hd=1 (http://youtu.be/tkxiMVh1qJ4?hd=1)
http://youtu.be/VS3Jk4rh33A (http://youtu.be/VS3Jk4rh33A)
http://youtu.be/_M3Vgz9sGJY (http://youtu.be/_M3Vgz9sGJY)
http://youtu.be/O6QoEAyjpq4 (http://youtu.be/O6QoEAyjpq4)
http://youtu.be/FHxan1Xuu8k (http://youtu.be/FHxan1Xuu8k)
http://youtu.be/AVIKMZIRKaU (http://youtu.be/AVIKMZIRKaU)
http://youtu.be/4A_tSyJBsRQ (http://youtu.be/4A_tSyJBsRQ)
http://youtu.be/u3dc8eoVaTo (http://youtu.be/u3dc8eoVaTo)
Bohren & Der Club of Gore - On Demon Wings (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aue3NrdtzN0#)[/spoiler]
http://kroq.cbslocal.com/2012/10/03/deftones-chino-moreno-while-inspired-by-80s-electronica-he-says-im-not-a-big-fan-of-dubstep/ (http://kroq.cbslocal.com/2012/10/03/deftones-chino-moreno-while-inspired-by-80s-electronica-he-says-im-not-a-big-fan-of-dubstep/)
Chino must not have heard the song he just did with Bassnectar.
classic chino 8)
Quote from: Inkblades on Oct 05, 2012, 07:47 AM
http://kroq.cbslocal.com/2012/10/03/deftones-chino-moreno-while-inspired-by-80s-electronica-he-says-im-not-a-big-fan-of-dubstep/ (http://kroq.cbslocal.com/2012/10/03/deftones-chino-moreno-while-inspired-by-80s-electronica-he-says-im-not-a-big-fan-of-dubstep/)
Chino must not have heard the song he just did with Bassnectar.
awesome
he prolly dodnt know what his vocals were being added to. or maybe he wass drunk lol
Quote from: Inkblades on Oct 05, 2012, 07:47 AM
http://kroq.cbslocal.com/2012/10/03/deftones-chino-moreno-while-inspired-by-80s-electronica-he-says-im-not-a-big-fan-of-dubstep/ (http://kroq.cbslocal.com/2012/10/03/deftones-chino-moreno-while-inspired-by-80s-electronica-he-says-im-not-a-big-fan-of-dubstep/)
Chino must not have heard the song he just did with Bassnectar.
He most probably got paid.
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;D
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Quote from: xToxin on Oct 06, 2012, 04:18 PM
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;D
That's great!
Koi No Yokan: Deftones Drummer Abe Cunningham Discusses Their New Album
Posted on 10 October 2012.
Together for more than 20 years, the Deftones weathered many storms and became innovators on the turbulent seas of a constantly changing music industry. The band released their sixth studio album, "Diamond Eyes," in early 2010. This dynamic album was their first since the terrible car accident in November 2008, that left bassist Chi Cheng severely injured. The band was in the process of creating what would have been their sixth studio album, "Eros," when bassist Cheng was injured. An emotional time for the band, they decided to put "Eros" album on hold. Band members pushed on and recruited former Quicksand member Sergio Vega to take over on bass. With Vega contributing, the seeds were planted for a new record. Under the watchful eye of super producer Nick Raskulinecz, those sessions resulted in their critically acclaimed album "Diamond Eyes." The band toured heavily on the album and, before they knew it, were drawn to the studio once more to create their most beautifully crafted album to date, "Koi No Yokan." Jason Price of Icon Vs. Icon recently caught up with Abe Cunningham of the Deftones to discuss the creation of their seventh studio album, "Koi No Yokan," the longevity of the band and life on the road!
Deftones is a band a lot of people my age latched onto when they got into music. I wanted to go back to the beginning and have you tell us a little about your first memories of music and how it came into your life?
I grew up in a musical family. My father was a bass player and my stepdad played drums, so music was always around me. My mom was a chef and in restaurants, music is always around as well. They all had really great taste too! I was drawn to so much different stuff, almost from the womb on, ya know? It is still the same way today! Music is always around me and it is always on and it is my constant source of joy.
You have been at it for a long time and have been very successful. To what do you attribute your longevity in the music industry?
Maybe never really having a plan! [laughs] Honestly, when we were starting out, we were just friends, just four guys, now five, who made songs. We weren't even writing songs, we were just putting stuff together in the garage. It is a pretty simple story. It all sprung from a childish urge to rock, if you know what I mean. It is still that way today and I think that is a great way to start anything up. For better or worse, we have definitely taken 10 steps forward and 19 steps back on several occasions but that is life. In the band, there are five personalities who are living five very different lives — trying to be as one isn't always easy. I am thrilled that we have worked out so much of the crap through the years and are able to work together. It puts us in a really good spot as friends and as dudes in the band. Hopefully, the best is still yet to come.
The new album is "Koi No Yokan." How did you guys arrive at choosing that title and what does it mean to you?
It is definitely an interesting title. It is a sense that two people will fall in love, without having to mate, falling in love upon first glance and it is a special feeling that doesn't always happen. I think that many people go through life trying to find the one. It is a really special feeling but it is not to be confused with love at first sight because it is not that, it is a sense. There is a bit more to it. It is a Japanese term that does not translate into English, so it gives it a little more mystique. It is a kind of a cool thing that people get to interpret. Everyone is looking for that love, maybe not everyone, but most everyone is looking for something special in life. For those that can find it, it's a great thing.
When you were first starting out to make this record, what were your expectations?
Like I said, for better or worse, we rarely have a plan! [laughs] When we completed writing the "Diamond Eyes" record a few years back, we were working with Nick Raskulinecz. At some point he said, "OK guys, that's it. I think we are done. We have the record." We were like, "What? We still want to go! We just want to write music!" Really from that point on, the end of the last record, we were really ready and couldn't wait to do another record. We ended up doing a year-and-a-half or so of touring on that record. The whole time we were on the road, we were really anxious to get back into the studio and do a new record. We are in a really juicy, creative spot right now and we are definitely firing on all cylinders. This is the second record in a row that we have been able to pop out pretty quickly. That's not to say that we are rushing it for the sake of rushing it because it is not that at all. It was just really important for us as a band to figure out how to do that once again. We needed to figure out how to be productive, together and on time. There is definitely a confidence that comes from knowing we can do that again because there were a lot of years that we couldn't do that. We are definitely in a good spot.
Can you tell us a little about the writing process for "Koi No Yokan?" Are you doing anything differently these days when you approach a new album?
I wouldn't say that we are taking it more seriously because I think we always have. What we did do is set a start time and a stop time for writing daily. We had never done that in the past. We used to go in and start at 7 but people would start rolling in at 8 or 9. Then we would start jamming at 11 or 12 and go until 3 in the morning and you're wrecked! We did that for so many years, man. It was definitely not productive or conducive for getting things done. We just figured if we put in a six to seven hour work day, six days a week, we would be able to come in and have fun, bounce around, then still be able to go to meetings in the morning and still be human. We adopted that approach last time for "Diamond Eyes" and did it again this time around. It is working great! It is funny, well not funny, but it is too bad that it took us that long to figure it out! [laughs] I am glad that we did!
This is your second record with Sergio Vega. I am a huge fan of his, both with Deftones and in his early work. What does he bring to the band in both the studio and the live setting?
He is a great friend and has been a friend of ours for many, many years. Not only is he a wonderful musician but he is a really positive dude with a tremendous spirit. With "Diamond Eyes," he came in and was given free reign to do whatever he wanted to do. He was involved with all the writing with us but, obviously, in his mind he might have been a little reserved for obvious reasons. He definitely did his thing on this new record. He is a very creative person and it has been a great experience making music with him.
Was that the biggest challenge in making "Koi No Yokan?" Did anything come up along the way you didn't expect?
Ya know what? To be totally honest, not really. It was actually pretty damn cool on a lot of levels. We took time in the middle of writing the album to go to Hawaii for a week. We had little breaks in the middle to break up the writing process, so that was really cool. It was so loose and really fun.
You guys seem to be in a terrific place in the creative sense. Is that a fair statement to make?
It is. Stephen [Carpenter] and I, every time we make a record, he and I, well, he always tries to pick a fight with me and we almost break up. [laughs] Once that is out of the way, then we are great! It's kinda silly but it has to happen. At this point I am like "Dude, when are you going to fight with me so we can get it over with and then get down to it!" [laughs] This time around, like clockwork, he tried to talk shit to me, we had our fight and then we were back on it! Like clockwork! [laughs]
You guys are about to launch a nationwide tour in support of the album. The live performance is as tight and powerful as it has ever been. With a huge catalog of material, as well as the new tunes, how do you put together your sets?
That is always a problem. We are thrilled to play this new record. We would love to play it the whole way through because it is badass. Being so tuned in from the "Diamond Eyes" tour, this was the first time in a really long time that we were so dialed in before we went into the studio to record that there was hardly any rehearsal. So now, it is a matter of just trying to fit it all in. There are seven records now, so you want to make people happy by playing their favorite songs but we are not going to play everyones favorite song. That isn't our intention but sometimes that's just the way it is. We have been trying to figure out a nice mix between the new, the old and everything in between. It is actually quite an interesting challenge.
Is life on the road something you still really look forward to at this point in your career?
Absolutely! Man, I can't wait! I love nothing more than playing drums and smacking them all over the world! Being on the road is like anything else, when you know it is time to take a break, you take a break. We did that and now we are amped up to get out there again. Everyone has grown up a bit from the time we first started out but we still go out, have fun and get loose but we try to keep ourselves right because we have to go do it every night. I am so pumped and thrilled to have this album done and to bring it to the fans, so there ya have it! Everyone else in the band feels the same way too.
Deftones have come a long way since you first started out. What are your thoughts on your journey so far?
There is so much to choose from. We have been very, very lucky and fortunate. We have been able to tour with some of our all-time favorite bands and bands that ultimately became our buddies. There is always something to learn not just musically but how they take on their daily routines, how they fucked up along the way or they met good people. Ya know, I am wide eyed, man. I have definitely been exposed to a lot through the years and I am always looking for something new. In my book, I have the greatest job in the world! Keep it light, keep it fun and keep it positive — that is something I have learned along the way.
With all the struggles you faced and obstacles you overcame, has there been talk of doing a documentary to document the band's rich history?
Yeah, ya know, we used to always carry cameras back in the day and there is tons of footage that was set aside from the "White Pony" tour years ago. I think it just leaked actually. I think it is definitely necessary but I am not sure why we haven't done it and I don't know why. Maybe one day! Ya know, we don't even have a DVD out and at this point, there are some bands that have 20 or 25 of them out! [laughs] We need to get on it.
You certainly left your mark on the music landscape. In your opinion, what does the future hold for the Deftones? No plans on packing it in any time soon I hope!
I hope not! It is all about keeping everyone happy. I am having the best time of my life making music with these guys after all these years. As I said before, I am ecstatic and thrilled for the album release and the tour. We are going to be out there rockin' this thing for a while and then we will likely be headed back to the studio but we have some playing to do in the meantime!
Awesome, Abe! Thanks for taking time out and letting us spread the word!
Thanks so much, Jason! Have a good one and take care!
Hahaha, Abe is a funny and laid back guy. Great to see he (and them) are still really enjoying themselves and excited about the music after all these years.
Haha, now this was pretty random.
Chino & wife on a Finnish - Wait for it - Cooking show. Yes, Sir.
(It's about a chef who visits a few better-known Finns around the world to do some cooking with them in each episode. This one was with Alexi Laiho of the band Children of Bodom, shot in LA. I knew he's friends with the Morenos, but it was still quite surprising to see them actually being Alexi's guests.)
Here's the link to the episode, if it can be viewed outside Finland:
http://www.katsomo.fi/?progId=145973 (http://www.katsomo.fi/?progId=145973)
(They're on from 00:37:35)
Quote from: dzake on Oct 11, 2012, 04:03 PM
Haha, now this was pretty random.
Chino & wife on a Finnish - Wait for it - Cooking show. Yes, Sir.
(It's about a chef who visits a few better-known Finns around the world to do some cooking with them in each episode. This one was with Alexi Laiho of the band Children of Bodom, shot in LA. I knew he's friends with the Morenos, but it was still quite surprising to see them actually being Alexi's guests.)
Here's the link to the episode, if it can be viewed outside Finland:
http://www.katsomo.fi/?progId=145973 (http://www.katsomo.fi/?progId=145973)
(They're on from 00:37:35)
Holy shit! WHAT JUST HAPPENED?! HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH
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best part is the awkward 'herb' reference as if the guy was 16 years old.
Haha. Right on. There's another guy from Montreal who has a food network show where he does catering for bands. He was at Heavy MTL and cooked for deftones so I would expect to perhaps see them on his show sometime in the near future.
Bahahaha. Chino will never grow up. <3
i can say a saw that one coming...
hahahah that just took me back to 2006 and the taco pic. still, I'd prefer a video of Chino stuffing his face rather than Mein.
http://www.heraldextra.com/entertainment/music/deftones-visit-wasatch-front-with-new-album-on-horizon/article_c843651d-9127-576a-8a14-359a0c4700e4.html (http://www.heraldextra.com/entertainment/music/deftones-visit-wasatch-front-with-new-album-on-horizon/article_c843651d-9127-576a-8a14-359a0c4700e4.html)
Quote from: dzake on Oct 11, 2012, 04:03 PM
Haha, now this was pretty random.
Chino & wife on a Finnish - Wait for it - Cooking show. Yes, Sir.
(It's about a chef who visits a few better-known Finns around the world to do some cooking with them in each episode. This one was with Alexi Laiho of the band Children of Bodom, shot in LA. I knew he's friends with the Morenos, but it was still quite surprising to see them actually being Alexi's guests.)
Here's the link to the episode, if it can be viewed outside Finland:
http://www.katsomo.fi/?progId=145973 (http://www.katsomo.fi/?progId=145973)
(They're on from 00:37:35)
Random indeed. "herbage"
http://www.antiquiet.com/news/2012/10/deftones-joined-by-gabe-cheng-on-stage-in-san-francisco/ (http://www.antiquiet.com/news/2012/10/deftones-joined-by-gabe-cheng-on-stage-in-san-francisco/)
They dont say much , it isnt really an interview but there is a video with Chi`s son playing bass with them
Last Night
Deftones Inspire Sweaty Mayhem at the Warfield, 10/10/12
By Alee Karim
Deftones
Scars on Broadway
Wednesday, Oct. 10, 2012
The Warfield
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/2012/10/deftones_at_the_warfield_10_10_12_san_francisco.php (http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/2012/10/deftones_at_the_warfield_10_10_12_san_francisco.php)
Better than: Nü-metal
Deftones don't get enough credit. They created a unique brand of hybrid metal that survived the '90s and '00s without hopping on the reunion train. They weathered the rise and fall of nü-metal without the vouchsafe of the pop world, and managed to remain relevant to kids after everyone got tired of guitar-driven rock. That and not hating the Internet will earn you a career in this business, kids.
After a middling period creatively, Deftones dropped 2010's Diamond Eyes, not only their best effort in years but one of the most sonically adventurous metal albums of that year and most of the next. Recorded over a mere six months after an accident left bassist Chi Cheng in a coma (from which he's yet to fully recover, unfortunately), the album is a clearing of the air and a kick in the ass to a band that had lost some attack for the sake of texture. Perhaps it was the infinite gaze of mortality, but 2010 was the year this Sacramento outfit got its mojo back.
Presently they're touring in advance of upcoming record, Koi No Yokan, with System of a Down alums Scars on Broadway (that name...) as support after a stint earlier this year with System themselves. Scars hit the Warfield's stage last night at exactly 8 p.m., as the first trickle of rain began to fall outside. SoaD mastermind Daron Malakian sold the crowd pretty quick on Scars' System-esque bombast. It was deserved as well. Their brand of drama-inflected weirdo anthem rock sits very close to SoaD, with the metal injection replaced by hard rock. The band was solid, if a little anachronistic, in its rock star posturing, sporting whipping curly hairdos and a bank of no fewer than four keyboards. But when a band sits in its sound this well, it deflects any surface criticism. These guys were TIGHT, almost sociopathically so.
The general admission pit at the Warfield was an unceasing, throbbing mass throughout Deftones' greatest hits-laden set. After a churning, atmospheric opener, the band launched into "Feiteceria" and there began a madness that never quite abated. We got no deep cuts, and only a handful of new material. The crowd lapped it up, eagerly helping Chino Moreno carry some particularly challenging extended falsettos. Early on, enthusiasm reached a boiling point for a suite of Around the Fur-era material and didn't significantly wane through the show's 90-minute running time. Seriously, this was a deeply exhausting performance, churning up sweat worthy of a hardcore show.
The set was a study in Deftones' strengths, most notably anthemic chargers like "Engine No. 9" and "Be Quiet and Drive (Far Away)" tempered with dynamic yet perverse psuedo-ballads like "Digital Bath" and "Hexagram." It's surprising how diverse Deftones have sounded over the course of their career, and how that diversity has strengthened instead of fractured their audience. Their migration from the aggressive metallic lacerations of their debut to the twisted, soaring pop band they are today (albeit with elephantine guitars) is kind of a neat hat trick from an outsider's standpoint. And yet it all seems of the same cloth, especially when viewed onstage last night. Closing with a suite from debut Adrenaline is the aural Red Bull that gives the audience here an implausible second wind. This included truculent closer "Seven Words" and a rendition of "Root," featuring hospitalized bassist Cheng's son, Gabriel.
All exited the Warfield sweaty and happy. Thankfully, it hadn't rained.
hexagram
pseudo ballad
what the hell
Quote from: Penicks on Oct 13, 2012, 10:08 PM
hexagram
pseudo ballad
what the hell
it's a stretch, but i can see it. esp "perverse."
anyways, cool to see an outsider "get it"
sleve jagson @violentxwaves
I bought a Deftones cassette tape. Comes with digital download of the new album on release d @ Showbox SoDo
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Must hear!
http://bc.ctvnews.ca/deftones-turn-it-up-to-11-in-vancouver-1.996220 (http://bc.ctvnews.ca/deftones-turn-it-up-to-11-in-vancouver-1.996220)
"Now something old," Moreno announced at the song's end, launching into the grinding "Do You Believe" and "Engine No. 9,"
They didn't play "Do You Believe" did they?? Dude must have gotten it confused with Fireal. Much respect to Chino for being "sick as a dog" and still giving it his all
No. They always play Fireal before Engine No. 9, I guess he's confusing them. Way to go, press. Also, Kou No Yokan, lolz.
Haha yeah I figured..
Quote from: shoop on Oct 15, 2012, 11:34 PM
http://bc.ctvnews.ca/deftones-turn-it-up-to-11-in-vancouver-1.996220 (http://bc.ctvnews.ca/deftones-turn-it-up-to-11-in-vancouver-1.996220)
"Now something old," Moreno announced at the song's end, launching into the grinding "Do You Believe" and "Engine No. 9,"
They didn't play "Do You Believe" did they?? Dude must have gotten it confused with Fireal. Much respect to Chino for being "sick as a dog" and still giving it his all
Haha 'funny the crowd use to steal Chinos clothes now they give him clothes,or is just polite Canadians?
http://www.pitch.com/wayward/archives/2012/10/18/chino-moreno-on-the-next-phase-of-the-deftones-show-saturday-at-voodoo-lounge (http://www.pitch.com/wayward/archives/2012/10/18/chino-moreno-on-the-next-phase-of-the-deftones-show-saturday-at-voodoo-loung)
Chino Moreno on the next phase of the Deftones; show Saturday at Voodoo Lounge
When the Deftones last came through Kansas City, the alterna-heavy quintet was in the process of rebounding from the long-term loss of original bass player Chi Cheng, a series of divorces, and a sluggish writing process that had created no small measure of internal friction. The situation had begun to improve in 2008, when work commenced on what was to be the band's sixth album, Eros (now shelved for a future release date that's as yet TBD), but then Cheng was severely injured in a car accident. Bassist Sergio Vega, who's filling in on a semi-permanent basis as Cheng remains in a semi-conscious state, checked in with The Pitch in 2011 to talk about the band's uplifted mood and improved creative process. Still riding the same wave of smoother productivity and mended relations, the band returns to KC for a show at the Voodoo Lounge this Saturday in advance of its new album, Koi No Yokan, its second album with Vega. We spoke with frontman Chino Moreno days before the band set out on tour.
The Pitch: Your sons are teenagers now. How much has your experience as a parent surfaced in your lyrics, and how did your lyrical approach this time compare to previous albums?
Chino Moreno: I still take pretty much the same approach, where the music is basically the inspiration. I don't really go in with a preconeived idea of who or what I'm going to write about. The music's always made first, so the emotions get struck up from listening to the music. Usually I come up with melodies and the cadence of how I'm going to sing first. Some words will pop up, and then I'll build around those words. It's usually not 'til I'm done that I sit back and I look at it and say 'wow, so this is what I was thinking.' It's a really odd way of writing, I guess, but I've never written any other way. As far as letting my personal life into the lyrics, I know it seeps through; those phrases that pop out usually come to me for a reason, so there is personal stuff in there, but not for every song. Some of the songs are sort of fantasy, which I really like. I don't always feel like I need to put that stuff into the music. A lot of the time, it just comes through on its own. So later, like with the Eros stuff, I listen to it a few years later and it totally takes me back to exactly to that time in my life. You can smell it.
This is your second album with Sergio. What does he bring to the writing?
Sergio's usually the first dude standing there with his bass in his hand. If one dude's up there ready to play, the next dude's going to be up there following suit, and it creates this environment where everybody wants to be like 'yo, check this out' and 'oh, okay, check this out.' It's like being influenced by the guys in your own band. Everybody gets into this big... k-hole of creativity. [Laughs.] And Sergio's a big part of that. If it wasn't for him, I don't know if we would have carried on. When he came in, it felt very natural. He was a good friend of ours before any of this, so it's not like it was some stranger coming in who was trying to fill Chi's shoes.
What did Sergio's old band Quicksand mean to you?
We're all fans of stuff he's done in the past. Quicksand, to me, has always been one of the great bands that merged together those things that I love in music so much: the rhythms and the groove of hardcore or post-rock or post-punk or heavy metal or whatever you wanna call it with great melodies and great, thoughtful lyrics. Not just screaming and ranting about how pissed off they were. Marrying those things together hasn't been done enough in rock music since then. I'm still attracted to music like that.
You've been into bands like the Cure for a long time. When you play heavy, angsty music for as long as you have, how do you avoid getting burned out playing it live?
Although I grew up listening to new wave, I also fuckin' love Pantera. It's never been like where I'm this guy that doesn't like heavy music and got stuck in a heavy metal band. And our music is maybe 75 percent heavy. It never feels full-force. I honestly feel like there's enough dynamics in our music where it goes through a different a range of moods and emotions. It's not just this aggro thing that starts on 10 and stays on 10 the whole time. A lot of that is maybe the influence of stuff I grew up listening to coming into this group that helps that dynamic. But it feels pretty good for me. I don't really feel burned out. I do sit and listen to quieter music when I get offstage. I listen to a lot of smooth jazz stuff. But it's all about balance.
How have you dealt with it when your sons go through angsty periods?
I had to learn this at an older age — I wish I'd learned this earlier in life — if you follow-through with things, it's a lot easier. [Laughs.] It's all about being accountable. Once I started doing that, my life started getting better in all aspects. One of my sons is 18 years old, so he's on his old now. My 15-year old who lives with me, along with my 8-year old daughter, is exactly like me when I was 15 years old. He's way into music and doesn't care about school that much. But he knows he has to go. I have to be way consistent. It's not like I can say "hey, do your homework" and go in the other room and watch TV. He probably thinks I'm the most strict parent ever — and I am strict, but I think he's going to know things that it took me 'til I was fuckin' thirty-something years old to learn. Things I didn't learn that I'm trying to pass onto him.
For you, writing music is homework.
Oh definitely.
Your lengthy working process came to a head between you and the rest of the band and producer Bob Ezrin when you were making 2006's Saturday Night Wrist.
It totally did. Althought a lot of it was me, I also had a lot of lack of confidence. I was getting record company people telling me "Hey, you need to go and work with this person and this person" and "We need some radio songs." Around the millenium, we started to get pressure from the record label. So I got caught in this thing where I started second-guessing myself, which made it hard for me to finish a song. I honestly thing Bob was just doing his job. It wasn't really his fault. Looking back, we were very dysfunctional at the time.
weird question to end the interview.
fixed link: http://www.pitch.com/wayward/archives/2012/10/18/chino-moreno-on-the-next-phase-of-the-deftones-show-saturday-at-voodoo-lounge (http://www.pitch.com/wayward/archives/2012/10/18/chino-moreno-on-the-next-phase-of-the-deftones-show-saturday-at-voodoo-lounge)
Quote from: buddyboy101 on Oct 18, 2012, 07:22 PM
weird question to end the interview.
fixed link: http://www.pitch.com/wayward/archives/2012/10/18/chino-moreno-on-the-next-phase-of-the-deftones-show-saturday-at-voodoo-lounge (http://www.pitch.com/wayward/archives/2012/10/18/chino-moreno-on-the-next-phase-of-the-deftones-show-saturday-at-voodoo-lounge)
edited. thanks for noticing
and this
http://digboston.com/listen/2012/10/interview-abe-cunningham-of-deftones/ (http://digboston.com/listen/2012/10/interview-abe-cunningham-of-deftones/)
INTERVIEW: ABE CUNNINGHAM OF DEFTONES
Alt-metal old schoolers Deftones are at their best when they're mesmerizing with melodic, dreamy art rock, as on "Sextape" from 2010's Diamond Eyes.
But drummer Abe Cunningham says Boston's Bad Rabbits not only nailed the song in a 2011 cover (released as a free download), they may even do it better.
"They slayed that song," Cunningham tells DigBoston.
"They smoked us. They're really good. They have, like, talent."
Cunningham said the two genre-bending bands, while hailing from opposite coasts (Deftones are from Sacramento), struck up a friendship after playing some dates together, and recently rekindled the relationship at a festival in Bangor this summer. Deftones are back with a new album, Koi No Yokan, which drops next month. The first tracks released, "Leathers" and "Tempest," are vintage Deftones – marked by crashing cymbals, power-packed metallic riffs, dramatic highs and lows and emotional crooning from vocalist Chino Moreno.
"It's all over the place, yet all reigned in too," Cunningham explains. "I'm stoked about it. This is what we do."
They just wrapped a sold-out U.S. tour with System of a Down and now hit the road with SOAD guitarist/vocalist Daron Malakian's side project, Scars on Broadway. Still reeling from the tragic loss of bassist Chi Cheng (he's been in a coma since a 2008 car wreck), the influential band has pressed on with Quicksand bassist Sergio Vega, continuing their reign as kings of the post-hardcore/alt-metal underworld.
"You see a lot of bands that have come and gone," Cunningham says. "We've been very fortunate to do what we do. It's something pretty special."
"We have a respect for it that we didn't always have before, when we were young. You grow up a bit and realize everything can change in the blink of an eye."
Interview with Chino - 98 Rock Baltimore
The interviewer is kind of a tool but nonetheless here it is:
http://98online.com/media#gallery/594/audio/0 (http://98online.com/media#gallery/594/audio/0)
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121018/ENT04/210180462/Deftones-rage-Hard-rock-outfit-barrels-forward-creative-resurgence-new-album?odyssey=mod (http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121018/ENT04/210180462/Deftones-rage-Hard-rock-outfit-barrels-forward-creative-resurgence-new-album?odyssey=mod)|newswell|text|Entertainment|s
http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2012/oct/18/keeping-it-real/ (http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2012/oct/18/keeping-it-real/)
On the last instagram pictures we can see chino loose his hair on the back....
I need to hear swerve city.
I hope Swerve City is just crazily futuristic. With a name like Swerve City, how could it not be?
Don't know if this has been posted: http://illinoisentertainer.com/2012/10/interview-deftones-chino-moreno/ (http://illinoisentertainer.com/2012/10/interview-deftones-chino-moreno/)
"It's been said you are the company you keep. But for Deftones, that was never true. The group was always far better than the acts they were initially lumped in with. Such lazy associations drove the band to shatter all expectations with 2000's genre masterpiece White Pony, an effort all at once atmospheric, ferocious, expansive, and claustrophobic. Since then, the band has outlasted nearly all their former "peers," and are set to return on Nov. 13 with Koi No Yokan, their seventh full-length effort. In advance of Deftones' Chicago show on Tuesday (Oct. 23) at Aragon, frontman Chino Moreno spoke to IE's Jaime de'Medici about Koi No Yokan, his thoughts on White Pony a decade later, and why the band connects so well in Chicago.
IE: I've seen that the new album, Koi No Yokan, has been compared to White Pony. Is that an apt comparison?
Chino Moreno: For me, it's hard to say. I mean, obviously when we go in to make a record, we don't think about, we're going to make a record that sounds like this or like that, or, whatever. But, I don't know. It's – for me, from the inside, it's really hard to say, even, not what record it sounds like, but what it sounds like in general. So, I don't know. It's definitely a Deftones record. It's got the dynamics, I think, that all of our records have. White Pony being probably one of our, maybe, most dynamic records, as far as having some, a lot of atmosphere in it, as well as, a lot of attack and aggression in it . . . and all in between. I think with this record we really tried to expand on what we'd done in the past. So, it's definitely not us trying to revert back to anything. But, more or less just taking what we've done over the years and expanding on that.
IE: What are some of the newer elements being employed on this new record – sonically, dynamically, lyrically, or otherwise?
CM: I mean, it's nothing – I don't think it's anything too specific. I mean, like I just said, we don't – we don't go in with a preconceived idea of what we're trying to accomplish. So that's even a part of the answer. But, the main thing, I think, we really focused on was being very immediate, as far as just recording this record with all of us in the room. And really just building off each others' ideas right in the moment. It wasn't something that was pieced together or too preconceived. It was really just us living in the moment, and trying to capture that time of us in there together playing. I think we did that very well. Probably the safest thing to say is that it's – I think the heavier parts are very in your face and very, just, there's a lot of attack in it. And I think the lush stuff that's in there is a little more lush. So, it's basically just going in each direction a little further. At the same time, keeping it cohesive. And, that's a Deftones record.
IE: Something always mentioned in relation to Deftones is the quiet/loud dynamic. How has that evolved from seven records ago to now?
CM: I think it had a lot to do with just, a lot of the stuff – letting a lot of our influences show a little bit more. It's probably our most divisive record, I guess, in some way. Obviously we're a lot younger then, and I think a lot of us were a little, just at that time of our life where it was us against the world type of feeling when you're in your early twenties, and I think it kind of reflects on that record a little bit. But actually, I think as we grow up, I think we're able to loosen up a little bit, and let some of more of our influences in. I mean, I myself didn't grow up listening to much heavy music –metal music – or anything like that, really growing up, until I actually got in this band, and then I started to listen to it more and obviously became a big fan of it. But, a lot of my earlier influences are more new wave and just different sonics that weren't just so aggressive. So, I think, over the years, especially with White Pony, I think we really started to open up more and let a lot of those influences come through a little bit more. And not really force them in there, but just let them kind of evolve naturally into our sound. I think over the years it's gotten more and more expansive in that way. And, at the same time, it's not like . . . that's the complete goal of making a record. Like, we don't – we're writing something that's heavy, we don't stop ourselves and say, 'Hey! We need to stop being so heavy right now because we're doing too much to the left and we need to go to the right.' It's not that conscious a response. It's just the way we feel. I think all of us are influenced by so much different stuff, from what we grew up listening to, to what we listen to today. And we just try to let those influences come out as natural as possible.
IE: White Pony is often brought up as a high point of the band's career. Do you agree, or do you wish other records received more focus?
CM: No . . . I totally agree with it . . . It's not my personal favorite record of ours. My favorite record of ours is Around The Future [ed. note: lol]. And it's probably not a better record than the White Pony because I believe that White Pony's probably our best record as far as I think we were definitely at a peak in our creativity where we really . . . were trying to make a point about not being lumped in with our contemporaries at the time. We were getting totally lumped in with every other nu-metal band on the planet that were . . . at that time, were pretty much ruling the airwaves. And, although it would've been so easy for us just to kind of go along with what we had been, what we had created a couple records past, and just keep along path, we really made an effort to steer left from that and to really push ourselves and experiment on different things. And it just so happened to work out. It's not like we knew that we were creating something so great. But we knew we were doing something that was challenging and a little different from what was expected. So, we were successful on that record, and it is a great record. I mean, I listened to that record recently and I hear, there's a lot of – it's just straight – I don't know, it's very – to me – it's a very organic record because it just happened in that way. It wasn't forced out. We decided to take a left turn, and that's where . . . we ended up, and it's great. But my favorite record is probably our second record, Around The Fur, and it's just mainly because, that time in our lives, I think there was no pressure at all to do anything. I mean, we made our first record, and I didn't even think that that record was going to be that successful, or people were going to embrace it like they did. So, when they did – and that's my least favorite record to this day – I knew that we could for sure outdo that record, and I wasn't like, pressured at all. And we just like, made a record super fast and in four months we wrote and recorded that thing. And, I don't know, there's something really special about that just for me personally.
IE: What do you attribute Deftones' longevity to, compared to bands you were lumped in with a decade ago?
CM: I think making those decisions, like I was talking about during the . . . Around The Fur record, but mainly, the White Pony record. Just making that decision to go in different directions, and not feel like we're in this mold and have to stay within these confines of what we're expected to sound like. So, just challenge ourselves in that way and experimenting. I think with every record, whether it turns out the way we want it to or not, I think just the fact that we take those chances to do that kind of stuff. I mean, it's not like we completely change our sound with every record . . . but we're willing to always expand and just like, try to just challenge ourselves. I mean, for us, honestly, I think that's what keeps it interesting for us. If there was a formula that we followed with every record, [I'd] be way over it by now. And I don't think we'd be doing this.
IE: Koi No Yokan is Sergio Vega's second album with Deftones. How has he affected the dynamic of the band?
CM: He's awesome. I mean, his playing is one thing. It's great and I think it really, it pushes everybody to challenge themselves. But, his persona, I mean, his person, I think when he came in at the time he did, obviously it was a really scary point for us in our career where there was a lot of uncertainty whether we were going to carry on or not, or whatever. And, if it wasn't for him, personally, I don't think we would have. I think he came in, and he just, his whole spirit and everything. He's a good friend, and he's very creative, and he's willing to work at all points, and I think it really motivates all of us. I mean, he came in, he has his bass strapped on, and he's just ready to play it at any moment and that definitely kind of woke everybody up a little bit too. Like, excited everybody else to gravitate towards their instruments and to do that. So, in a lot of ways, he really is a strong force in what's going on . . . these last two records.
IE: Producer Nick Raskulinecz is back for *Koi No Yokan after previously producing 2010's Diamond Eyes. Talk about that decision.
CM: Yeah. Well, with Diamond Eyes, that was our first time really working with him and really working with a producer who really is involved in pre-production, which is from the moment we start writing up until we go into the studio. We usually – that part's all done just with us five guys, and then we go into the studio with a producer and they track the record, and . . . it usually works out great. But, when he came in for Diamond Eyes, he really took this role where he just kind of helped, really helped us be efficient, I think, with the way that we work. Really paying attention to everything. [He] let us kind of just play our instruments and he would sort of stand there and help, kind of, guide us, I guess. Because a lot of times when we start playing, although we're having a blast and we're sitting there just jamming along with each other, it's really easy to lose focus of where you started and where you end up. And he was really good about reigning us in and, kind of, reminding us, 'Well, here's the essence of the song. This is where you started, and this is why you guys were so excited, smiling an hour ago. And now you're like off in outer space.' And that's great, but like, he kind of . . . helps us make sense of it, really. So we're free to not think so much about arranging songs and what everybody else is doing, but just really just getting into your playing and what you're doing. And, I think that really helps keep the whole process organic. Just like, it's more on feel and less on thought.
IE: Deftones have a long history of playing Chicago, ranging from venues like Metro all the way up to festivals like Lollapalooza. What are some memories you have of performing in Chicago?
CM: Man, I have so many great memories of Chicago. I mean, from our earliest days and the Aragon. I mean, I don't know, I just – there's so many good times that we've had. I really miss, actually, doing the smaller shows there. Though, it seems like a lot of times we've been there in the past, we've been doing bigger shows with packages. Whether it's the Alice In Chains thing, or whatever. It seems like we've always had this kind of kinship where they, I think, even early on, the days where the people of Chicago have understood our music a little more maybe than some other places, especially in the Midwest. So I've always felt like . . . we're understood there a little better, I don't know. But, the crowds have always been very receptive and the shows have always been good. So, I'm excited to get back.
– Jaime de'Medici"
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new press kit including new promotion pictures availabe at http://www.mlk.com/deftones/1643-live_2013 (http://www.mlk.com/deftones/1643-live_2013)
stef needs to do a proper kony interview. is it too much to ask for? it is his goddamn job and wouldn't take much of his time. this, and i'm really interested to hear what he has to say about it before it drops
Theres a new KNY review here ... actually .. its the first one ive seen and it was posted about 10 mins ago .. are we close to a leak?? www.metalsucks.net/2012/10/23/review-deftones-volcanic-stratospheric-koi-no-yokan/ (http://www.metalsucks.net/2012/10/23/review-deftones-volcanic-stratospheric-koi-no-yokan/)
I'm glad that the reviewer liked the album, but hoo boy, that was some pretentious bullshit. Imminent cannon battle? Lolwat?
Quote from: Inkblades on Oct 23, 2012, 07:52 PM
I'm glad that the reviewer liked the album, but hoo boy, that was some pretentious bullshit. Imminent cannon battle? Lolwat?
I was mindfucked as well with his review but fuck it! This means the press has a hold of the album now! Yessssss >:D
Why is Frank standing so far away in the picture? Lol
The band really needs a clothe chooser (i donno what you call it) except Chino.
They really need to change their photgraphers too.
Lame
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Oct 23, 2012, 10:10 PM
The band really needs a clothe chooser (i donno what you call it) except Chino.
Stylist? lol
Man that photographer is shit looks like he just took the same photo from further back and then used instagram on them.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 24, 2012, 12:05 AM
Man that photographer is shit looks like he just took the same photo from further back and then used instagram on them.
Frank maddocks or 13thwitness. Neither are shit.
Quote from: iceache on Oct 24, 2012, 12:11 AM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 24, 2012, 12:05 AM
Man that photographer is shit looks like he just took the same photo from further back and then used instagram on them.
Frank maddocks or 13thwitness. Neither are shit.
well those two photos are
The desert photos are great. This last one with the band however is pretty bad.
Apparently the issue of Kerrang that is out today has the "lowdown" on KNY
http://www.kerrang.com/blog/newissue/ (http://www.kerrang.com/blog/newissue/)
what is a lowdown?
Quote from: NicholasHume on Oct 24, 2012, 07:09 AM
Apparently the issue of Kerrang that is out today has the "lowdown" on KNY
http://www.kerrang.com/blog/newissue/ (http://www.kerrang.com/blog/newissue/)
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i need to hear this now god dammit!!!
Haven't read that yet, but Kerrang tend to do ok reviews. Is there a larger image anywhere ? That's a bit harsh on the ol' eyes
PS. Is that a Tosin Abasi shirt Stef is wearing ? I assume so. Fair play. .
Quote from: alan1o on Oct 24, 2012, 11:06 AM
Haven't read that yet, but Kerrang tend to do ok reviews. Is there a larger image anywhere ? That's a bit harsh on the ol' eyes
i think kerrang never do a bad review about deftones.
Quote from: alan1o on Oct 24, 2012, 11:06 AM
Haven't read that yet, but Kerrang tend to do ok reviews. Is there a larger image anywhere ? That's a bit harsh on the ol' eyes
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Rockitout blog or something said on twitter that their interview is going up tomorrow.
Stef looks 10 years younger on that pic =P
Thanks for Posting that DefSteve.. I asked Abe if Romantic Dreams was really heavy and he just smiled and said "maaayyybeee" :p
Kerrang loves Deftones so much.
I guess this album is gonna be the album of the year again for them
i'm skeptical about the record being sent out for promo's / reviews. So far we've only had 2: The vague as fuck metalsucks one, and a very half assed kerrang 'preview' rather than review.
Quote from: alan1o on Oct 26, 2012, 11:23 AM
i'm skeptical about the record being sent out for promo's / reviews. So far we've only had 2: The vague as fuck metalsucks one, and a very half assed kerrang 'preview' rather than review.
There not sending it out they have press days or organise listening sessions at warner
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 26, 2012, 11:25 AM
Quote from: alan1o on Oct 26, 2012, 11:23 AM
i'm skeptical about the record being sent out for promo's / reviews. So far we've only had 2: The vague as fuck metalsucks one, and a very half assed kerrang 'preview' rather than review.
There not sending it out they have press days or organise listening sessions at warner
yes that is true, and the press listening party was a month or two ago. The press peeps made it known they were doing a listening party a while back. twitter blew up like a bitch!
INTERVIEW: CHINO MORENO (DEFTONES) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii0R5S489lI#ws)
Haven't watched it yet, though.
Edit: Chino said the two remaining songs that didn't make it on the record weren't even finished so there definitely won't be a deluxe edition with b-sides on it. Too bad...
Cool to hear some of that stuff, but the interviewer was annoying as hell.
I laughed when Abe pulled out his cellphone and said he has some stuff from the Eros sessions on it and the interviewer was like "You wouldn't!?"
I always like that dudes interviews. He does his homework. This is a great interview. Props to chino for not wanting to do dubstep shit again.
Poor Abes thinking like when's someone gonna ask me something
Quote from: el perro on Oct 26, 2012, 07:56 PM
Poor Abes thinking like when's someone gonna ask me something
Im pretty sure thats another reason why steff doesnt do interviews lol chino always hogs up the mic .. and steff can get pretty mad fast lol.. im sure abe could answer all those questions (besides the side projects) .. but chino just loves hogging up that mic :P
Btw im sure the main reason why steff isnt in interviews is cause hes just to high :P
Abe is there to drive back Chino home?
So now all we need is Abe's iphone.
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Oct 27, 2012, 12:30 AM
Abe is there to drive back Chino home?
So now all we need is Abe's iphone.
haha that bit was good
Pff why don't interviewers STOP asking about Eros and Chi. We know what's up right now.
Right on man.we know what's going on,I'm sure it hurts everytime someone brings it up.asking bout it has to be a downer by now.
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I think Stef looks the coolest in each picture, if that matters at all - I love the comment someone made a couple weeks ago about photo #4, saying that Stef looked like the Undertaker.
They all look terrible..
Sergio & Abe is beyond joke
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Post of the year.
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Props to chino for not wanting to do dubstep shit again.
i dunno.. i guess"props to him" would fit better if he said no to a lot of money if he thought the style of music was shit to him.he's not poor and doesn't have to do this.in this interview he sounds like a guy who puts money over art without any hesitation.. and i'm sure a lot of ppl deep down don't like to picture their favourite artists reasoning this way.but if he has done it, i'm glad he's honest about it. personally i don't mind this that much.but they should've put vocals on the two extra tracks and release a special edition kny record out there, a lot of ppl would buy both. at least finish 1 of them
end of the day its his job and he has a family to support can't afford to turn down good money.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 27, 2012, 10:06 AM
end of the day its his job and he has a family to support can't afford to turn down good money.
yeah maybe the leauge of shadows has stolen his fingerprints and made several bad investments in his name so he's bankrubt and has to do anything for money.do you think chino will be able to prove fraud?
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 27, 2012, 11:45 AM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 27, 2012, 10:06 AM
end of the day its his job and he has a family to support can't afford to turn down good money.
yeah maybe the leauge of shadows has stolen his fingerprints and made several bad investments in his name so he's bankrubt and has to do anything for money.do you think chino will be able to prove fraud?
Its been two years since DE came out and they haven't toured they're not that loaded they have a mortgage too regardless i know hes not broke but hes not going to turn down good money for little work. by the way you have some of the lamest jokes ever
not that much a joke, more a way of pointing out that something big and spectacular must have happened if he has lost his entire fortune he has gotten during the many years as a famous rock star (in several bands). He already called himself a rich during an around the fur era interview. so what happened to his money? just admit using his name and vocals in music he hates for money isn't an admirable thing to do
They aren't that rich look on oneloveforchi chi's ex talks about how everyone thinks the guys were rich but because of the long time between albums they struggled sometimes she said at one point child services wanted her to pay child support to Chi.
Quote from: M1GHTY M4VS on Oct 27, 2012, 09:05 AM
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I shit on every Gangnam Style related post.
Does Vega have a lip pearcing or is that a scar? What the fuck is wrong with his mouth?
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 27, 2012, 12:12 PM
They aren't that rich look on oneloveforchi chi's ex talks about how everyone thinks the guys were rich but because of the long time between albums they struggled sometimes she said at one point child services wanted her to pay child support to Chi.
yeah maybe we can talk about chi some other time.
chino though, called himself rich after releasing and touring 2 records.
his own words about himself. and then releasing and touring 4 more records after that statement, i would guess he's richer today than in 97/98 when he called himself rich. why not? the've got a bigger fanbase and bigger crowds today.
no offence, but you come off as a stereotypical fanboy trying to justify anything they do. "if chino doesn't sing this shitty song his kids will starve to death, he has to" ::) no, his family is fine, he could dodge this song and do something else that he enjoys and can get behind.
i think chino has a lot of money but just wanted some more this time. and although it could be irritating than he chose money over his image, doing a style he hates, i'm ok with it. just don't say "mad respect" or "props" when he does it, that's what's a little upsetting
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 27, 2012, 02:41 PM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 27, 2012, 12:12 PM
They aren't that rich look on oneloveforchi chi's ex talks about how everyone thinks the guys were rich but because of the long time between albums they struggled sometimes she said at one point child services wanted her to pay child support to Chi.
yeah maybe we can talk about chi some other time. chino though, called himself rich after releasing and touring 2 records.
his own words about himself. and then releasing and touring 4 more records after that statement, i would guess he's richer today than in 97/98 when he called himself rich. why not? the've got a bigger fanbase and bigger crowds today.
no offence, but you come off as a stereotypical fanboy trying to justify anything they do. "if chino doesn't sing this shitty song his kids will starve to death, he has to" ::) no, his family is fine, he could dodge this song and do something else that he enjoys and can get behind.
i think chino has a lot of money but just wanted some more this time. and although it could be irritating than he chose money over his image, doing a style he hates, i'm ok with it. just don't say "mad respect" or "props" when he does it, that's what's a little upsetting
I know the video your are talking about and i am pretty sure he was joking also they didn't release snw until four years after self titled and racked up huge studio bills plus he went through a divorce chances are she took a good portion.I don't justify everything he does it just pisses me off how armchair critics like you sit their and say "I wouldn't of done that , that's selling out" the music industry is a business aswell and i never said he was poor but if the moneys there you're going to take it.I never congratulated him for but i can understand his reasoning i can see what you are saying i wish he hadn't done it but he's probably turned down lots of dumb shit (can't remember there was some shitty movie that wanted to use a deftones song) he's allowed to cash in occasionally lol
I don't believe chino is rich, but neither that he is struggling. It's kinda selling out to do a collaboration just for the money, but i could care less as long as deftones don't write music just to be able to play on the radio.
Quote from: gui on Oct 27, 2012, 02:52 PM
I don't believe chino is rich, but neither that he is struggling. It's kinda selling out to do a collaboration just for the money, but i could care less as long as deftones don't write music just to be able to play on the radio.
I guess its all about balance lol he does some stuff he doesn't like so he can do what he loves but perhaps doesn't pay well
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Oct 27, 2012, 08:44 AM
They all look terrible..
Sergio & Abe is beyond joke
I kind of agree, the black/white one looks ok.
And I like what they
tried to do with Abe and Stef on the second one, but it looks fake.
And Chino, drop the rock-star attitude.
What ? Yeah, who gives a rats rats rats' ass anyway.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 27, 2012, 02:47 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 27, 2012, 02:41 PM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 27, 2012, 12:12 PM
They aren't that rich look on oneloveforchi chi's ex talks about how everyone thinks the guys were rich but because of the long time between albums they struggled sometimes she said at one point child services wanted her to pay child support to Chi.
yeah maybe we can talk about chi some other time. chino though, called himself rich after releasing and touring 2 records.
his own words about himself. and then releasing and touring 4 more records after that statement, i would guess he's richer today than in 97/98 when he called himself rich. why not? the've got a bigger fanbase and bigger crowds today.
no offence, but you come off as a stereotypical fanboy trying to justify anything they do. "if chino doesn't sing this shitty song his kids will starve to death, he has to" ::) no, his family is fine, he could dodge this song and do something else that he enjoys and can get behind.
i think chino has a lot of money but just wanted some more this time. and although it could be irritating than he chose money over his image, doing a style he hates, i'm ok with it. just don't say "mad respect" or "props" when he does it, that's what's a little upsetting
I know the video your are talking about and i am pretty sure he was joking also they didn't release snw until four years after self titled and racked up huge studio bills plus he went through a divorce chances are she took a good portion.I don't justify everything he does it just pisses me off how armchair critics like you sit their and say "I wouldn't of done that , that's selling out" the music industry is a business aswell and i never said he was poor but if the moneys there you're going to take it.I never congratulated him for but i can understand his reasoning i can see what you are saying i wish he hadn't done it but he's probably turned down lots of dumb shit (can't remember there was some shitty movie that wanted to use a deftones song) he's allowed to cash in occasionally lol
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rock-stars/chino-moreno-net-worth/ (http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rock-stars/chino-moreno-net-worth/)
How reliable is that information?
dont confuse net worth with actual cash on hand. Net worth is everything chino has a part of or owns. i bet he has a couple hundred thousand on hand at any time.
no clue. i just typed chino moreno in google and net worth was the 4th term listed after his name.
Net worth is basically if he sold all of his assets and those are just estimates
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pic from tempest shoot?
If so, I dig the forest backdrop.
Nice! I like forests. There's always something mystic about them
13th Witness Video Shoot, Death Valley + Joshua Tree NP, CA
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p.90 sly :P
Quote from: M1GHTY M4VS on Oct 28, 2012, 08:46 AM
p.90 sly :P
Seriously haha... I just saw them coming by somewhere. It's so hard to follow everything
Interview of Stephen Carpenter & Frank Delgado @ Nova Rock, Nickelsdorf, June 13th 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1-nh6aOld4#ws)
best interview with steph i've seen. anyway on this he talks about how to release an album without it leaking, by doing no promo. I wonder if this is the route they've decided to take
I think I've seen it before. I love interviews with Stef.
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Chino in gumboots?
Looks like Steph was about to fire one up.
Hope there's ewoks.
Quote from: Shadow46/2 on Oct 28, 2012, 08:52 PM
Hope there's ewoks.
and they defeat the deftones
I just get Harry Potter vibes from looking at that picture. No idea why.
Maybe it's because Stef looks like Hagrid.
Quote from: only pieces remain on Oct 27, 2012, 04:24 PM
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rock-stars/chino-moreno-net-worth/ (http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rock-stars/chino-moreno-net-worth/)
yeah i have to agree with gui when he says "not struggling" about chino
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 29, 2012, 07:02 AM
Quote from: only pieces remain on Oct 27, 2012, 04:24 PM
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rock-stars/chino-moreno-net-worth/ (http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rock-stars/chino-moreno-net-worth/)
yeah i have to agree with gui when he says "not struggling" about chino
never said he was just said he allowed to take the good money that's available
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 27, 2012, 10:06 AM
end of the day its his job and he has a family to support can't afford to turn down good money.
you initially made it seem that he didn't have much of a choice, "can't afford" to not do the song" that he HAD to do this - for his family. way to create a bullshit sob story to explain selling out behaviour. now you changed it to "he's allowed" to make money which isn't the same. it's obvious you're just realizing you're wrong
You guys put any weight in what that site says?
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 29, 2012, 07:31 AM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 27, 2012, 10:06 AM
end of the day its his job and he has a family to support can't afford to turn down good money.
you initially made it seem that he didn't have much of a choice, "can't afford" to not do the song" that he HAD to do this - for his family. way to create a bullshit sob story to explain selling out behaviour. now you changed it to "he's allowed" to make money which isn't the same. it's obvious you're just realizing you're wrong
I'm guessing English is not your first language or your just not common with it but "can't afford to turn down the good money" is just like a saying its not a literal statement never said he was poor just said he's allowed to take the good money when it's available do you think he would still be worth that much if he only did what he wanted. Man happens all the time of this site people just interpret things differently because of different sayings.
Quote from: bewareofrats on Oct 29, 2012, 08:06 AM
You guys put any weight in what that site says?
Wouldn't take it as gospel, end of the day its only an estimate.
Quote from: bewareofrats on Oct 29, 2012, 08:06 AM
You guys put any weight in what that site says?
yeah it's an estimate, but i would guess it's closer to the truth than the 500 bucks deftonesnz says.
i would appreciate if he just admitted it's selling out, that chino doesn't have to do this but does it anyway,that he cares more about money than his image as an artist.if chino is more of a business man than a true admirable artist here -
that's ok, but don't try to make up an explaination / lie that makes it better than it is. the truth is ok too.
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 29, 2012, 08:31 AM
Quote from: bewareofrats on Oct 29, 2012, 08:06 AM
You guys put any weight in what that site says?
yeah it's an estimate, but i would guess it's closer to the truth than the 500 bucks deftonesnz says.
i would appreciate if he just admitted it's selling out, that chino doesn't have to do this but does it anyway,that he cares more about money than his image as an artist.if chino is more of a business man than a true admirable artist here - that's ok, but don't try to make up an explaination / lie that makes it better than it is. the truth is ok too.
I can now see why your considered a huge asshole on this site, He's not a sellout it was one song and it wasn't even that bad why the fuck are you here if you think he's a sellout, I'm guessing you are a musician who hasn't made it and uses excuses like i didn't want to sell out to justify it either that or your'e just a straight out dick head,I think your'e probably jealous of Chino's success so you try and bring him down to your level by picking out his flaws just be happy for him.I never said he has to do it i said he is entitled to use his skills to get good money when it is on offer don't play Mr high and mighty acting like you wouldn't do that.
Happy Halloween.
http://bcove.me/0uusg44p (http://bcove.me/0uusg44p)
what song are you guys talking about?
http://media.wmmr.com/Blogs/1001463/Chino,%20Abe%20and%20Markus%2010-28-12%20edit.mp3 (http://media.wmmr.com/Blogs/1001463/Chino,%20Abe%20and%20Markus%2010-28-12%20edit.mp3)
love this interview
Quote from: Playhouse on Oct 29, 2012, 10:26 AM
http://media.wmmr.com/Blogs/1001463/Chino,%20Abe%20and%20Markus%2010-28-12%20edit.mp3 (http://media.wmmr.com/Blogs/1001463/Chino,%20Abe%20and%20Markus%2010-28-12%20edit.mp3)
Thanks for the link ,good to hear Abes voice again lol
Quote from: ZackND on Oct 29, 2012, 09:11 AM
what song are you guys talking about?
hexes/bassnectar, but it's not about how it sounds though, it's the fact that chino sang on a dub step song, a style which he later said he hated. "then why do it?" the interviewer asked, and chino said "because they paid me a lot of money"
"Selling out, the act of compromising one's perceived principles for economic gain"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selling_Out_%28disambiguation%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selling_Out_%28disambiguation%29)
No that's not all that he said. First he mentioned that he was a friend of theirs and that he asked him to do it. Then he mentioned the money as sort of an afterthought.
I gave up caring about "selling out" a long time ago. These dudes are married and/or have kids. They make music as a career ie to make money. If they make something I don't like I'll just stop listening. But I'm not going to begrudge them for padding their wallets by helping out a friend.
Quote from: kckondor on Oct 29, 2012, 12:56 PM
No that's not all that he said. First he mentioned that he was a friend of theirs and that he asked him to do it. Then he mentioned the money as sort of an afterthought.
I gave up caring about "selling out" a long time ago. These dudes are married and/or have kids. They make music as a career ie to make money. If they make something I don't like I'll just stop listening. But I'm not going to begrudge them for padding their wallets by helping out a friend.
well said
they haven't sold out. they haven't sacrificed their integrity for commercial gain - with the one exception being back to school. they're not haircut tightjean posers, and they don't just follow the trends.
They definitely have not sold out. And I don't think the money thing is an issue at all for them. Chino has an estimated net worth of $15 million.
Quote from: bojosoto on Oct 29, 2012, 01:39 PM
They definitely have not sold out. And I don't think the money thing is an issue at all for them. Chino has an estimated net worth of $15 million.
Yeah my whole point was they should be able to use their skills to make the good money when its available even if its not something they fully enjoy,and they should be able to do it with out being labelled sellouts when clearly they're not. Music is just like any other business.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 29, 2012, 01:43 PM
Quote from: bojosoto on Oct 29, 2012, 01:39 PM
They definitely have not sold out. And I don't think the money thing is an issue at all for them. Chino has an estimated net worth of $15 million.
Yeah my whole point was they should be able to use their skills to make the good money when its available even if its not something they fully enjoy,and they should be able to do it with out being labelled sellouts when clearly they're not. Music is just like any other business.
no, that wasn't your "whole point"point, THESE were your points
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 27, 2012, 12:12 PM
They aren't that rich look on oneloveforchi chi's ex talks about how everyone thinks the guys were rich but because of the long time between albums they struggled sometimes she said at one point child services wanted her to pay child support to Chi.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 27, 2012, 10:06 AM
end of the day its his job and he has a family to support can't afford to turn down good money.
you meant he couldn't turn down the offer because he and his family are poor. jeez, you've got a memory of a gold fish.
oh btw, here's more sellout talk by chino:
http://www.infinitelooper.com/?v=M-J9YFkQE_k&p=n#/477;500 (http://www.infinitelooper.com/?v=M-J9YFkQE_k&p=n#/477;500)
so we got bts, bassnectar, and handsomeboy modeling school. all done for money.
i wouldn't call chino a 100% sell out, but it's dumb to make it seem he doesn't ever sacrifice his artistic integrity for money. only a delusional fanboy could try
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 29, 2012, 02:56 PM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 29, 2012, 01:43 PM
Quote from: bojosoto on Oct 29, 2012, 01:39 PM
They definitely have not sold out. And I don't think the money thing is an issue at all for them. Chino has an estimated net worth of $15 million.
Yeah my whole point was they should be able to use their skills to make the good money when its available even if its not something they fully enjoy,and they should be able to do it with out being labelled sellouts when clearly they're not. Music is just like any other business.
no, that wasn't your "whole point"point, THESE were your points
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 27, 2012, 12:12 PM
They aren't that rich look on oneloveforchi chi's ex talks about how everyone thinks the guys were rich but because of the long time between albums they struggled sometimes she said at one point child services wanted her to pay child support to Chi.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Oct 27, 2012, 10:06 AM
end of the day its his job and he has a family to support can't afford to turn down good money.
you meant he couldn't turn down the offer because he and his family are poor. jeez, you've got a memory of a gold fish.
oh btw, here's more sellout talk by chino:
http://www.infinitelooper.com/?v=M-J9YFkQE_k&p=n#/477;500 (http://www.infinitelooper.com/?v=M-J9YFkQE_k&p=n#/477;500)
so we got bts, bassnectar, and handsomeboy modeling school. all done for money.
i wouldn't call chino a 100% sell out, but it's dumb to make it seem he doesn't ever sacrifice his artistic integrity for money. only a delusional fanboy could try
lol people had right to get rich and sellout. chill the fuck out man.
Whooooooo fuckingggggg caresssssssssss
Quote from: pony_01 on Oct 29, 2012, 03:04 PM
lol people had right to get rich and sellout. chill the fuck out man.
i've already said it three times, i'm fine with chino doing some sellout stuff. there,that's the fourth time.
it's these fanboys that use every single desperate argument they can think of, to make it seem chino or deftones never done some sellout shit that i think are funny. just look at deftonesnz, he can't even keep his stories straight, they change til the point that they contradict themselves. this wouldn't happen if he had a personal opinion of his own. instead, he changes his mind and arguments along the way, because defending deftones no matter what - always comes first
Quote from: iceache on Oct 29, 2012, 03:20 PM
Whooooooo fuckingggggg caresssssssssss
not any more bullshit than in the kny thread. this place is a disaster since the noob invasion ;D
Sell out will be if Deftones make featuring with Kanye West or something like that. I don't really see the problem with Chino recording vocals for songs he doesn't really like as long as Deftones remain true.
As to the income, I've read somewhere that Randy Blythe from Lamb of God is making 200k per year. It was in the news in regards of his arrest - his bail was based on his official income for a year - 200k. I can imagine Chino doing at least double then that.
Quote from: iceache on Oct 29, 2012, 03:20 PM
Whooooooo fuckingggggg caresssssssssss
Thank you!
Quote from: Sett on Oct 29, 2012, 03:35 PM
Sell out will be if Deftones make featuring with Kanye West or something like that.
"Selling out, the act of compromising one's perceived principles for economic gain"
"sell·out. a person who compromises his or her personal values, integrity, talent, or the like, for money or personal advancement."
chino has done this. also deftones as a group (bts).
sorry, doesn't say anything about "kanye or something like that".
it's cute that you make up your own little meanings for the word and all,but there's already a definition of it
But keep in mind if they hadn't done BTS the label could have dropped them or something, and this is back in the days where you really couldn't be independent. Not that easily anyway... And it's only one fucking song. They didn't make the whole album like that. Not only that I bet some people do like BTS. It's not like it's that far of a stretch from other Deftones songs... they still made it sound like them. And when they were done with that song, they went back to making bad ass shit.. And let's keep in mind they still released White Pony without it. I still have that album, it's actually the only copy of it I still have, with Boys Republic at the end. So no, I don't think they sold out.
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 29, 2012, 04:04 PM
Quote from: Sett on Oct 29, 2012, 03:35 PM
Sell out will be if Deftones make featuring with Kanye West or something like that.
"Selling out, the act of compromising one's perceived principles for economic gain"
"sell·out. a person who compromises his or her personal values, integrity, talent, or the like, for money or personal advancement."
chino has done this. also deftones as a group (bts).
sorry, doesn't say anything about "kanye or something like that".
it's cute that you make up your own little meanings for the word and all,but there's already a definition of it
Fine but what is your point? You are harping on this implying that you think its crappy of him, but then say you don't care. So which is it? And if you don't care then you are just trolling.
it isn't admirable of him, but (for the fifth time) i'm ok with it. the thing here isn't a stab at chino, it's a stab at the fanboys.chino isn't a complete sellout or anything, but he's done some minor sell out things, (open your eyes everyone) i can't believe how everyone is so afraid to admit this. he's done so much great stuff, so him doing some sell out shit on the side - can't ever come near the amout of great stuff he's done. i just wish that everyone could be a confident fan of him and admit when he does something greedy.ppl don't have to live in denial,ppl don't have to lie to themselves(or anyone else) that this hasn't happen. just be a mature realist about it and face the real world, he's still kwl.
People make music to make money. Period. They signed onto a major label to make money. People are in bands because they want that form of "art" to make them some money.
Chino made some money, yes, on those side tracks, but he did not, as your definition describes, compromise his personal values, integrity, or talent. It's not greedy to want to make money, its called SURVIVING. He's doing his job and that is to make music. You know what from_musings...you don't know what goes on his mind so get over it this argument. It's silly.
Please and thank you.
we're talking about him doing songs he hates for money, and that ppl can't call that by it's right name. it's mainly about the bassnectar and handesome boy modeling school songs... do you mean that he wouldn't "survive" if he didn't do those two songs?
Why dont we just say the whole band is a bunch of fucking sell outs, they did appear in that Crow movie.
LOL
No such thing as selling out. It's all in the mind of a fan.
Any pictures, interviews or magazine scans rather than a discussion about making money?
Who fucking cares. He sung on some shitty songs, and got heaps of money. Get over it.
i heart Chino. I heart Deftones. So do u Musings and u will buy KNY and like it too. Prob bitch about it too but if u didn't u would b selling out. ;D
The fact that this conversation is even happening makes me hate this place a little bit more. Calling someone a "sell out" or debating if they have "sold out" is an antiquated notion really it just gets redundant. Nobody will ever agree because you all have different perceptions of what "selling out" is. I probably won't read any replies to this comment. PEACE!
Quote from: sing blue silver on Oct 29, 2012, 11:31 PM
The fact that this conversation is even happening makes me hate this place a little bit more. Calling someone a "sell out" or debating if they have "sold out" is an antiquated notion really it just gets redundant. Nobody will ever agree because you all have different perceptions of what "selling out" is. I probably won't read any replies to this comment. PEACE!
Two girls who are my GF's friends want to make threesome with you? Are you in, pal?
One girl is Japanese and one is blondie..
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http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2012/10/deftones_chino.php (http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2012/10/deftones_chino.php)
Chino's watching :)
Really?
Fuck you Chino!
Album of the year sounds about right
Quote from: sing blue silver on Oct 29, 2012, 11:31 PM
Nobody will ever agree because you all have different perceptions of what "selling out" is. I probably won't read any replies to this comment. PEACE!
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the real problem is that everyone here sees everything in black or white. nothing in between. either you love chino and deftones, and therefore one must love everything they say or do and must defend everything about them (fanboyism). and they seem to think that there's only one alternative to this: that you have to hate chino, deftones, and everything they say or do and.and as long as they only see it from these two options, you can't ever have a sane discussion with a dude like me who's in the grey area.
like for me it's possible to like something but not have to like everything about it/all it does. For example, I can love a dog, but I wouldn't like if it took a shit inside my apartment.I would say that that thing just wasn't ok, but I would still love the dog anyway.
sl and its members with their way of thinking at this board would,if they loved their dog, say that they liked that the dog pooped indoors. or might make up an excuse/lie that the dog wasn't feeling well and therefore HAD to poop indoors. maybe they would remove the shit and then say that the dog never took a shit in the first place. sweet denial. they would never be able face a simple truth and say "yes my dog fucked up, but it's ok, it happens. i love my dog anyway". because making up excuses and defend something you love must be done at all costs at every time given. but all it will result is stupidity and idiocy
Fair enough its all just opinions, haha we just need some new Deftones to relax us
http://www.theskinny.co.uk/music/features/303437-deftones_frontman_chino_moreno_talks_survival_koi_no_yokan (http://www.theskinny.co.uk/music/features/303437-deftones_frontman_chino_moreno_talks_survival_koi_no_yokan)
Quote from: T.B.B.I.T.W. on Oct 31, 2012, 12:28 AM
http://www.theskinny.co.uk/music/features/303437-deftones_frontman_chino_moreno_talks_survival_koi_no_yokan (http://www.theskinny.co.uk/music/features/303437-deftones_frontman_chino_moreno_talks_survival_koi_no_yokan)
Nice
"Honestly, I feel that some of these songs are more commercial than anything we've ever written"
:(
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 31, 2012, 09:40 AM
"Honestly, I feel that some of these songs are more commercial than anything we've ever written"
:(
I'm worried about that too but Chino does sometimes have different meanings to words when he's talking about music,we'll just have to wait and see but going by the songs we've heard to me it sounds less commercial than DE
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 31, 2012, 09:40 AM
"Honestly, I feel that some of these songs are more commercial than anything we've ever written"
:(
Personally i think the most commercial songs they have ever written are on white pony, with songs like Digital bath, Knife Party and Change. And those 3 are my easily in my top 5 ever. I'm not stress about that comment.
Quote from: gui on Oct 31, 2012, 10:20 AM
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 31, 2012, 09:40 AM
"Honestly, I feel that some of these songs are more commercial than anything we've ever written"
:(
Personally i think the most commercial songs they have ever written are on white pony, with songs like Digital bath, Knife Party and Change. And those 3 are my easily in my top 5 ever. I'm not stress about that comment.
The song structure is more conventional but not the lyrics they even had to change the lyrics in the book so they didn't get censored.either way a Deftones commercial song still aren't really commercial lol
Well it depends on what your definition of commercial is. It could end up that it doesn't sound commercial to a lot of people and I'm sure some people it will. Whatever the case I'm sure it won't sound more commercial than DE.
Quote from: gui on Oct 31, 2012, 10:20 AM
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 31, 2012, 09:40 AM
"Honestly, I feel that some of these songs are more commercial than anything we've ever written"
:(
Personally i think the most commercial songs they have ever written are on white pony, with songs like Digital bath, Knife Party and Change. And those 3 are my easily in my top 5 ever. I'm not stress about that comment.
those songs are soft, easy listening, melodic and radio friendly, so i can see how someone would call them commercial in a way.especially if you compare them to most songs on the records before wp. not a huge fan of those but they still have some sort of weird underground mysterious vibe to them, so prefer them over the choruses in songs like diamond eyes and leathers, there it feels like they're trying really hard to make a melody/hook that will capture a new audience. like it's not from their hearts, just manufactured parts made for a wider audience.i don't hate soft,but i hate obvious atempts for catchy choruses that sound cheesy. we'll see
Yeah i would say diamond eyes songs were predictable
Quote from: chuckles on Oct 31, 2012, 12:46 AM
Quote from: T.B.B.I.T.W. on Oct 31, 2012, 12:28 AM
http://www.theskinny.co.uk/music/features/303437-deftones_frontman_chino_moreno_talks_survival_koi_no_yokan (http://www.theskinny.co.uk/music/features/303437-deftones_frontman_chino_moreno_talks_survival_koi_no_yokan)
Nice
Yeah brilliant article, really nicely written.
I liked what he said about Stef getting into the lyrics for a change.
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Saturday Night Wrist took three years to make and it's not like it was that great for taking three years
Lol, Amen. The guy is pretty aware of the work he's pulling off and that's a quality.
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 30, 2012, 12:53 PM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Oct 29, 2012, 11:31 PM
Nobody will ever agree because you all have different perceptions of what "selling out" is. I probably won't read any replies to this comment. PEACE!
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the real problem is that everyone here sees everything in black or white. nothing in between. either you love chino and deftones, and therefore one must love everything they say or do and must defend everything about them (fanboyism). and they seem to think that there's only one alternative to this: that you have to hate chino, deftones, and everything they say or do and.and as long as they only see it from these two options, you can't ever have a sane discussion with a dude like me who's in the grey area.
like for me it's possible to like something but not have to like everything about it/all it does. For example, I can love a dog, but I wouldn't like if it took a shit inside my apartment.I would say that that thing just wasn't ok, but I would still love the dog anyway.
sl and its members with their way of thinking at this board would,if they loved their dog, say that they liked that the dog pooped indoors. or might make up an excuse/lie that the dog wasn't feeling well and therefore HAD to poop indoors. maybe they would remove the shit and then say that the dog never took a shit in the first place. sweet denial. they would never be able face a simple truth and say "yes my dog fucked up, but it's ok, it happens. i love my dog anyway". because making up excuses and defend something you love must be done at all costs at every time given. but all it will result is stupidity and idiocy
I would consider myself part of the grey area you speak of, but I think the difference, for me at least, is that I will spend infinitely more time/thoughts on the things I do like than the things I don't.
Your analogy is too exaggerated in my opinion. Just because I may not like some deftones song, or some guest spot Chino does, doesn't mean that I would say they "fucked up". You either like it or you don't. What's the point in attempting to pick apart the motivations of dudes we don't even know?
http://www.frontarmy.com/news/holy-shitsticks-batman-its-the-new-issue-of-front-magazine/ (http://www.frontarmy.com/news/holy-shitsticks-batman-its-the-new-issue-of-front-magazine/)
There's an interview in the new issue of FR0NT. As always. But I do not have the mag.
Quote from: stuka on Oct 31, 2012, 04:35 PM
http://www.frontarmy.com/news/holy-shitsticks-batman-its-the-new-issue-of-front-magazine/ (http://www.frontarmy.com/news/holy-shitsticks-batman-its-the-new-issue-of-front-magazine/)
There's an interview in the new issue of FR0NT. As always. But I do not have the mag.
that chick on the cover is hot.
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Quote from: stuka on Oct 31, 2012, 04:35 PM
http://www.frontarmy.com/news/holy-shitsticks-batman-its-the-new-issue-of-front-magazine/ (http://www.frontarmy.com/news/holy-shitsticks-batman-its-the-new-issue-of-front-magazine/)
There's an interview in the new issue of FR0NT. As always. But I do not have the mag.
All i see here is BOOBS!
Jacob is right. Im such a pervert! Damnit
Quote from: slyartwork on Oct 27, 2012, 05:34 AM
Pff why don't interviewers STOP asking about Eros and Chi. We know what's up right now.
I wish they would do the same.
New review from Alternative Press. 3.5 out of 5.
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What a superficial review.
thanks for posting! Did anyone notice they spelled the album name wrong, wtf? Koi No Yokam with an M <------ way to go A.P.
I dug that review. Except for the Yokam haha
3.5? thats kinda break the hype..
i wonder whats 5 stars means to them?
if this is not the best album of the year, so what it is?
we heard the half of it and it still better then anything else
Technically the "n" in "Yokan" could be either an "n" or an "m". In Japanese the same character represents both the "n" and the "m" sound. It's up to the writer/speaker to decide on which to use. For example, the word "tempura" is most often written and spoken with an "m" sound according to westerners. But when I ask my Japanese students to write the word I see an "n" as often as I see the "m".
And how do you know that the review is out of 5 stars. To me it looks like 3 1/2 out of 4.
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Nov 01, 2012, 12:28 AM
i wonder whats 5 stars means to them?
if this is not the best album of the year, so what it is?
we heard the half of it and it still better then anything else
very surprised by the 3.5, especially since they give out 4's and 4.5's like candy. whatever.
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Nov 01, 2012, 12:28 AM
i wonder whats 5 stars means to them?
if this is not the best album of the year, so what it is?
we heard the half of it and it still better then anything else
i'm a fanboy, im hurt when i saw a review with 3.5 out of 5 stars.
Is he saying it sounds like self titled it that rocks like bit under the stars?
says download guaze????? anybody try? ???
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Nov 01, 2012, 03:57 AM
says download guaze????? anybody try? ???
I saw that too ... must be an error -.-
it means that if you read the review after the album is out and it intrigued you (casual fan), you should check out gauze as they feel its a standout track from the album. Really not that complicated guys.
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Nov 01, 2012, 03:57 AM
says download guaze????? anybody try? ???
yeah i tried. i clicked on Gauze thosand times but dowload didnt started..
jesus!
On the review they say the album is amazing but they gave 3,5..
complete stupity
(http://i.imgur.com/F8HfJ.jpg)
Well, we all know critics outside the metal community are lukewarm to Deftones. Not surprised by that rating.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Nov 01, 2012, 12:46 AM
Technically the "n" in "Yokan" could be either an "n" or an "m". In Japanese the same character represents both the "n" and the "m" sound. It's up to the writer/speaker to decide on which to use. For example, the word "tempura" is most often written and spoken with an "m" sound according to westerners. But when I ask my Japanese students to write the word I see an "n" as often as I see the "m".
that's actually pretty interesting, i cherish your contribution
Please, vote. This is embarassing.
http://loudwire.com/adelitas-way-vs-deftones-cage-match/#pd_a_6652824 (http://loudwire.com/adelitas-way-vs-deftones-cage-match/#pd_a_6652824)
I have no idea who that other band is. I'm old.
Me neither. But it sounds like Nickelback
:-X
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Nov 01, 2012, 07:04 PM
Please, vote. This is embarassing.
http://loudwire.com/adelitas-way-vs-deftones-cage-match/#pd_a_6652824 (http://loudwire.com/adelitas-way-vs-deftones-cage-match/#pd_a_6652824)
That is fucking embarassing.. VOTE!
Quote from: deftoner664 on Nov 01, 2012, 07:27 PM
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Nov 01, 2012, 07:04 PM
Please, vote. This is embarassing.
http://loudwire.com/adelitas-way-vs-deftones-cage-match/#pd_a_6652824 (http://loudwire.com/adelitas-way-vs-deftones-cage-match/#pd_a_6652824)
That is fucking embarassing.. VOTE!
Done!!! What a fuckin stupid name... Adelitas way...
What a gay song
Quote from: chuckles on Nov 01, 2012, 07:50 PM
Quote from: deftoner664 on Nov 01, 2012, 07:27 PM
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Nov 01, 2012, 07:04 PM
Please, vote. This is embarassing.
http://loudwire.com/adelitas-way-vs-deftones-cage-match/#pd_a_6652824 (http://loudwire.com/adelitas-way-vs-deftones-cage-match/#pd_a_6652824)
That is fucking embarassing.. VOTE!
Done!!! What a fuckin stupid name... Adelitas way...
The embarrassing thing is deftones is loosingg..
Quote from: gwenudo666 on Nov 01, 2012, 07:54 PM
Quote from: chuckles on Nov 01, 2012, 07:50 PM
Quote from: deftoner664 on Nov 01, 2012, 07:27 PM
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Nov 01, 2012, 07:04 PM
Please, vote. This is embarassing.
http://loudwire.com/adelitas-way-vs-deftones-cage-match/#pd_a_6652824 (http://loudwire.com/adelitas-way-vs-deftones-cage-match/#pd_a_6652824)
That is fucking embarassing.. VOTE!
Done!!! What a fuckin stupid name... Adelitas way...
The embarrassing thing is deftones is loosingg..
They shouldn't even be there, look at all the other garbage in these "cage matches". rediculous... i will be voting every hour, by the hour.
Cover story in the Visions magazine in Germany! "We ain't going to be rockstars"
Going to buy it tomorrow
(http://images.visions.de/news/detail/17225.jpg)
http://www.visions.de/news/17225/VISIONS-236-am-Kiosk (http://www.visions.de/news/17225/VISIONS-236-am-Kiosk)
Mainstream rock is really really boring. My god, the lyrics are always about relationships or 'rising up' good lord. The composition is boring, the singers are never offensive, always squeeky clean and the guys all dress the same. What the hell is wrong with people.
Quote from: dawg on Nov 02, 2012, 09:51 AM
Cover story in the Visions magazine in Germany! "We ain't going to be rockstars"
Going to buy it tomorrow
(http://images.visions.de/news/detail/17225.jpg)
http://www.visions.de/news/17225/VISIONS-236-am-Kiosk (http://www.visions.de/news/17225/VISIONS-236-am-Kiosk)
Nice! If you could make scans of the feature, it would ROCK.
the guys from Metal Hammer review the album starting from 25min.25s in the podcast
http://www.metalhammer.co.uk/podcast/metal-hammer-podcast-219-devin-townsend-reviewed-halloween-being-awesome-bon-jovi-bullet/ (http://www.metalhammer.co.uk/podcast/metal-hammer-podcast-219-devin-townsend-reviewed-halloween-being-awesome-bon-jovi-bullet/)
Damn. I just came back from the kiosk but they didnt have the newest issue of the Visions magazine...
Quote from: vinsanity on Nov 02, 2012, 11:53 AM
the guys from Metal Hammer review the album starting from 25min.25s in the podcast
http://www.metalhammer.co.uk/podcast/metal-hammer-podcast-219-devin-townsend-reviewed-halloween-being-awesome-bon-jovi-bullet/ (http://www.metalhammer.co.uk/podcast/metal-hammer-podcast-219-devin-townsend-reviewed-halloween-being-awesome-bon-jovi-bullet/)
Yeah, I've been waiting for this!
German review of Koi No Yokan on plattentests.de
http://www.plattentests.de/rezi.php/show/www.firesideometer.com/rezi.php?show=9786 (http://www.plattentests.de/rezi.php/show/www.firesideometer.com/rezi.php?show=9786)
8/10
I actually don't quite understand this rating, since the reviewer isn't pointing out any negative aspects and emphazises their musical superiority several times. You could easily think it's a 10/10 just by reading the text
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Nov 02, 2012, 12:13 PM
German review of Koi No Yokan on plattentests.de
http://www.plattentests.de/rezi.php/show/www.firesideometer.com/rezi.php?show=9786 (http://www.plattentests.de/rezi.php/show/www.firesideometer.com/rezi.php?show=9786)
8/10
What this review boils down to: It's a pop record at heart. An album of grand gestures and majestic choruses.
Quote from: vinsanity on Nov 02, 2012, 11:53 AM
the guys from Metal Hammer review the album starting from 25min.25s in the podcast
http://www.metalhammer.co.uk/podcast/metal-hammer-podcast-219-devin-townsend-reviewed-halloween-being-awesome-bon-jovi-bullet/ (http://www.metalhammer.co.uk/podcast/metal-hammer-podcast-219-devin-townsend-reviewed-halloween-being-awesome-bon-jovi-bullet/)
Edit: Never mind, didn't notice that it's written where the review starts.
dp
QuoteWhat this review boils down to: It's a pop record at heart. An album of grand gestures and majestic choruses.
Well that sucks
Quote from: Caín on Nov 02, 2012, 12:26 PM
What this review boils down to: It's a pop record at heart. An album of grand gestures and majestic choruses.
No, not really. He even says that Diamond Eyes was the radio friendly record and that Koi No Yokan is an aversion of this direction. And he's basically only going into detail on the choruses of Leathers and Poltergeist and does not claim that the record is solely based on its choruses
Lyric Spoiler for whose interested and not able to read through the article.
[spoiler]"The sky belongs to you" as lyric bracket for What happened to You and "I wish this night would never end" for Romantic Dreams.[/spoiler]
I typed the review in google translater cause I'm too lazy to translate it by myself. Either way, please do yourself a favor and read it for yourself.
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The concept of superiority:
Because he is, the pop in sheep's clothing. Sometimes you can not be long sought to find this little wisp of places where it is not suspected. Deftones about the universe, including the Japanese title "Koi no yokan". This means the potential promise of love after two people have made. It is a knowledge of an inescapable future love. Translated back into the future in the present, received the Pop with wide open arms and loving gaze, except for the band from Sacramento falls again with the now fifth masterpiece in a row in the music world to the competition mercilessly auszuknipsen.
Big Guitar Walls rise up and shake. The drums kick five meters above the ground. It goes through a tunnel of darkness and into the bright light, beyond the Dieseits. Chino Moreno's voice floats again a few inches above the drum-monster bends the ear through the narrow reef out into the meadow. It follows the singer through "Swerve city" banned like the time the camera the "Blade Runner" from the city canyons in the mountains. And since it appears the intimate affection, this deep relationship to the band said little wisp, which they do since the century-album "White Pony" tender love deals. Moreno takes the short brake, turn off and lands beyond the elegy in the world embrace of a long-drawn Oh-vowel, which even the Foo Fighters would not have succeeded Sun larger stadium. And what the Deftones produce further here, is not huge, it's huge deluxe survival.
Somewhere in the wake of the shoals of human emotions does "Romantic Dreams" the listener dives down to the point where the core of emotion shines like a studded window on bare winter roads:. "I wish this night would never end" A beauty on the balance between hardness and majestic sacred. To "Koi no yokan" ends this night, neither Moreno nor the listener, never. Nick Rasculinecz again sat on the production and shows that he can demand as much busy work horse like no other heavy music all the subtle nuances.
This proves the rousing "Leathers". Losbrechend as an elemental force, it rolls over the phone, pulls him in waves and whirlpools of energy that drives him as once Ikarus on the cloudy height of one of the most beautiful chorus melodies that ever came across Moreno's lips towards sunbeam. The lower it is the case then driven in the "Poltergeist", which infuriated haunts the premises to which the fogged windows in the human emotion household belong. And this at the highest level since "White Pony". Was "Diamond Eyes" is something like a concession to the radio format, then "Koi no yokan" averting her lip, though it most likely the Beach Boys album represents the discography. Depth of the abyss but still, you have to look in the verzückender despite vocal lines.
For example, in "Tempest". What begins with graying beatlesk Klanggewummer drives, in the darkest disco number of the year. So focused and precise one has heard the band play rarely. The sound cascades are always tight, crush and enclose the crackling fresh drums of Abe Cunningham would not always provide air before it goes into an oh-dark abyss chorales. Absolute strong-arm tactics of the skill, the Deftones and Rasculinecz simply know too well, how to do that. It takes "Gauze" the tension a bit and organized like a volcano, lava flows from the devastating. Like a fire, it recognizes itself and is consumed with genius. After the Foo Fighters last year its "Dear Rosemary" sang in an emotional force Brumme, dip the Deftones their "Rosemary" in ice-cold, reminiscent of ambient soundscapes sounds before frying guitar from Stephen Carpenter airs like a threat: not only for girls of the same name, but also for the recipient. By experiementell tinged "What happened to you" the gentlemen not only show that they have understood the principle Progressivitäts but stamp the certificate musical superiority from the same twice. "The sky belongs to you," Moreno sings and probably thinks himself as true and respect for it.
Wow, this translation is a mess.
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Nov 02, 2012, 12:49 PM
Wow, this translation is a mess.
german syntax is more complex than what google implies to give out as real especially as this particular review is filled with metaphores.
'to the point where the core of emotion shines like a studded window on bare winter roads'
ha
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Nov 02, 2012, 12:39 PM
Quote from: Caín on Nov 02, 2012, 12:26 PM
What this review boils down to: It's a pop record at heart. An album of grand gestures and majestic choruses.
No, not really. He even says that Diamond Eyes was the radio friendly record and that Koi No Yokan is an aversion of this direction. And he's basically only going into detail on the choruses of Leathers and Poltergeist and does not claim that the record is solely based on its choruses
Actually the reviewer is all over the map. He says it's not as radio friendly as DE but ends the same sentence with "it's their most 'Beach Boys'" yet.
Edit:
He also compares it to the 'Foo Fighters' and "stadium rock". Actually he says it's even more stadium rock than 'Foo Fighters' at times.
shit sounds straight wembley!
What? Of all the four songs we've heard, nothing comes even close to "stadium rock". Geez, why are most of you so obsessed with talking KNY down?
Quote from: Caín on Nov 02, 2012, 01:33 PM
Actually he says it's even more stadium rock than 'Foo Fighters' at times.
loooooool
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Nov 02, 2012, 01:46 PM
What? Of all the four songs we've heard, nothing comes even close to "stadium rock". Geez, why are most of you so obsessed with talking KNY down?
That's what the reviewer said. Don't kill the messenger.
http://www.theskinny.co.uk/article/303438-deftones_koi_no_yokan (http://www.theskinny.co.uk/article/303438-deftones_koi_no_yokan)
not sure if this one is new...
Quote from: White Wrist on Nov 02, 2012, 02:09 PM
http://www.theskinny.co.uk/article/303438-deftones_koi_no_yokan (http://www.theskinny.co.uk/article/303438-deftones_koi_no_yokan)
not sure if this one is new...
This review just stops randomly.
Quote from: Caín on Nov 02, 2012, 02:12 PM
Quote from: White Wrist on Nov 02, 2012, 02:09 PM
http://www.theskinny.co.uk/article/303438-deftones_koi_no_yokan (http://www.theskinny.co.uk/article/303438-deftones_koi_no_yokan)
not sure if this one is new...
This review just stops randomly.
Stupid review...
Has this been posted already? 5/5
http://www.metalsucks.net/2012/10/23/review-deftones-volcanic-stratospheric-koi-no-yokan/ (http://www.metalsucks.net/2012/10/23/review-deftones-volcanic-stratospheric-koi-no-yokan/)
Quote from: punkflop01 on Nov 02, 2012, 03:11 PM
Has this been posted already? 5/5
http://www.metalsucks.net/2012/10/23/review-deftones-volcanic-stratospheric-koi-no-yokan/ (http://www.metalsucks.net/2012/10/23/review-deftones-volcanic-stratospheric-koi-no-yokan/)
Yes..
http://uploaded.net/file/jdn0nhmq (http://uploaded.net/file/jdn0nhmq)
scans from German magazine Visions. As a subscriber I got the Converge cover, not the Deftones one.
Quote from: black coffee on Nov 02, 2012, 03:40 PM
http://uploaded.net/file/jdn0nhmq (http://uploaded.net/file/jdn0nhmq)
scans from German magazine Visions. As a subscriber I got the Converge cover, not the Deftones one.
Thanks, but can't you just upload it to mediafire? I'm struggling with uploaded at the moment
So Metalhammer puts Koi No Yokan on par if slightly behind Diamond Eyes but ahead of Self-titled and SNW. Somewhat annoying that the bulk of it was talking about songs we've already heard. Still looking for a good review
Bullshit.
Cow Pat
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Nov 02, 2012, 01:46 PM
What? Of all the four songs we've heard, nothing comes even close to "stadium rock". Geez, why are most of you so obsessed with talking KNY down?
Stadium rock doesn't equate bad music. It just means that it's music made to fill a stadium...immense. Huge. Epic.
I read that as a compliment.
i admire your positivity, but stadium rock sounds like dumb sing a long rock to me - corny catchy choruses. i've been a fan of deftones for many years, and this without them having catchy sing along shit. hell, maybe i've been a fan because they HAVEN't been doing stuff like that. they've always been melodic but not stadium rock like.we'll see
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Nov 02, 2012, 01:46 PM
Geez, why are most of you so obsessed with talking KNY down?
hit the nail on the head.
Quote from: black coffee on Nov 02, 2012, 03:40 PM
http://uploaded.net/file/jdn0nhmq (http://uploaded.net/file/jdn0nhmq)
scans from German magazine Visions. As a subscriber I got the Converge cover, not the Deftones one.
Thank you! :)
That review compared Swerve City to Blade Runner. FUCK. YES. I was so hoping that song would be futuristic.
blade runner is boring as shit
Quote from: Penicks on Nov 02, 2012, 06:41 PM
blade runner is boring as shit
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it really is
together with 2001 the most overrated sci-fi movie of all time
Quote from: Penicks on Nov 02, 2012, 08:14 PM
it really is
together with 2001 the most overrated sci-fi movie of all time
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Quote from: Penicks on Nov 02, 2012, 08:14 PM
it really is
together with 2001 the most overrated sci-fi movie of all time
Agree about 2001 one, but bladerunner ? what about that end speech lol "memories lost in time,like tears in the rain",also the outro to rosemary reminded me of bladerunner as soon as i heard it.
http://instagram.com/p/RibtgHMfrr/ (http://instagram.com/p/RibtgHMfrr/) a picture of koi no yokan cds stacked under green days new cds .. they should just throw away all those green day ones -_-
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Nov 02, 2012, 11:37 PM
Quote from: Penicks on Nov 02, 2012, 08:14 PM
it really is
together with 2001 the most overrated sci-fi movie of all time
Agree about 2001 one, but bladerunner ? what about that end speech lol "memories lost in time,like tears in the rain",also the outro to rosemary reminded me of bladerunner as soon as i heard it.
Eh, I don't completely disagree with this statement, but when you think about it, 2001 was made in the 60's. It looks pretty damn amazing in some spots, I'd argue better than some of the CGI garbage we have now. It was mos def ahead of its time in that regard.
New Rock Sound.
Koi No Yokan 2 page review (8/10) + 2 page Chino interview
plus full page ad's for UK tour and KNY
Quote from: defsteve on Nov 03, 2012, 10:31 PM
New Rock Sound.
Koi No Yokan 2 page review (8/10) + 2 page Chino interview
plus full page ad's for UK tour and KNY
Do you have a pdf?
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Nov 03, 2012, 10:39 PM
Quote from: defsteve on Nov 03, 2012, 10:31 PM
New Rock Sound.
Koi No Yokan 2 page review (8/10) + 2 page Chino interview
plus full page ad's for UK tour and KNY
Do you have a pdf?
Afraid not. Just the latest magazine on a '5 issues for a fiver' deal.
Quote from: gwenudo666 on Nov 03, 2012, 12:52 AM
http://instagram.com/p/RibtgHMfrr/ (http://instagram.com/p/RibtgHMfrr/) a picture of koi no yokan cds stacked under green days new cds .. they should just throw away all those green day ones -_-
I see that "just4747", whoever he is, spammed again the post with begging for rip. "The whole SL wants it". Fuck off buddy, I don't want it to leak, and I believe I am not the only one.
¡Dos! by Green Day leaked today which also has its official release on November 13
So I think we can be very optimistic about it leaking tomorrow.
Some more reviews :
http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2012/Dec/Album_Review_Deftones_Koi_No_Yokan.aspx (http://www.premierguitar.com/Magazine/Issue/2012/Dec/Album_Review_Deftones_Koi_No_Yokan.aspx)
http://social.entertainment.msn.com/music/blogs/headbang-blogpost.aspx?post=ac7fdb22-7f9f-4d15-a8b8-35b7d994eb29 (http://social.entertainment.msn.com/music/blogs/headbang-blogpost.aspx?post=ac7fdb22-7f9f-4d15-a8b8-35b7d994eb29)
(http://i1152.photobucket.com/albums/p486/deathiscertain29/Snap2012-11-05at145.jpg)
Quote from: xToxin on Nov 05, 2012, 08:12 PM
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I am fucking dying.
So now where do we talk about KNY?
On facebook or in real life.
and not on a Deftones forum
wait
Does anyone have the newest Kerrang! issue with the review of Koi No Yokan and do me a favor and scan/photograph the article?
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Nov 07, 2012, 06:36 PM
Does anyone have the newest Kerrang! issue with the review of Koi No Yokan and do me a favor and scan/photograph the article?
Yeah i'd like to read this.
Here are the reviews from this week's issues of Kerrang! and NME (pictures rather than scans, I'm afraid--didn't have the money on me to buy three magazines at once). I've also typed them out for anyone that may prefer to read them that way, and stuck them under spoilers so it doesn't clutter the thread so much. Also picked up a copy of this month's Rocksound, and will scan in the article and review in that later tonight (along with the strange "art" printed opposite the review).
Kerrang!
[deleted the image since it was so shitty]
[spoiler]KKKKK - ALT. METAL KINGS REIGN SUPREME, AS CHALLENGING AND CREATIVE AS EVER
Sex, love and the end of the world. Deftones don't often lend themselves to simple summation, but, on Koi No Yokan, that might be as close as any. Apparently informing the threads, hints and echoes that pepper its 51 minutes and 43 seconds is the impending apocalypse – as prophesied in Mayan lore, due December 21. There's also the fact that Chino Moreno is loved up again, having married for the third time in March earlier this year. But threads , hints and echoes is all they offer, becayse Chino has never been the most literal lyricist; even if a line such as 'Shed your casing, show your lines and shapes, wear your insides on the outside' in lead single Leathers offers just enough detail, leaving the rest to the imagination. Musically, now seven albums deep into their ever-evolving recorded adventures, Deftones still keep uoi guessing, too; from track to track and chorus to verse, they switch up styles, sounds and accents.
From first play, the gargantuan plundering of opener Swerve City is a mighty beast that goes straight into the pantheon of heavy 'tones classics. But little else here is so obvious. Because much like its closest sonic relation, the lesser-loved – but unfairly so – Saturday Night Wrist, this is a shape-shifting teaser of a record that's layered, detailed and difficult at first. It's a true band effort, though. You can hear the rhythmic powerhouse duo of Sergio Vega and Abe Cunningham go head-to-head all over the growling thrust and rattle of Poltergeist. Turntablist and effects whizz Frank Delgado surpasses virtually anything he's ever done in the band with the blissed-out synths and glacial, hypnotic textures of Entombed.
Elsewhere, Chino does the customary Chino thing with relish, weaving in and out of dreamy, breathy passages to burst into banshee shrieks, while Stephen Carpenter strikes a balance between centre stage cranium-shattering riffs and atmospheric picking patterns. Often those contrasts and frictions snuggle up to one another within a single song, as on late album highlight Goon Squad, and it's in that blend of ugliness, beauty, brute force and restraint that Koi No Yokan excels.
Incredibly, the Deftones have been doing it now for 17 years. In the meantime, a lot has happened – individually, collectively and within the music industry – yet they still deliver their challenging music with effortless ease. That's why they remain without peer, in a universe of their own, constantly seeking out new sounds and finding them; confounding and captivating in equal measure. If the Mayans are right and the world does end sometime very soon, at least Koi No Yokan is the perfect soundtrack.
DOWNLOAD: Swerve City, Entombed, Goon Squad.
THE INSIDER – TALES FROM THE STUDIO...
Why did you settle on Koi No Yokan as the title?
"It's a Japanese term that roughly means 'love at first sight', but I like that it doesn't properly translate into English. That idea of love at first sight is a very strong sentiment, and this is a batch of strong songs that we feel passionately about, and this was the only title we even considered.
Were there any creative tensions in regard to the wide variety of songs on the record?
"No, there really weren't. Sometimes tension can bring great results, and White Pony was a record written like that, but everybody was pretty much on the same page with this record. Chi's accident really brought us closer together as friends, and I think that has allowed everyone to feel more comfortable being themselves, and bringing their own ideas to the table."
So how did the apocalypse song Tempest come about?
"Thing is, we never write concepts, because it never works for us, but that song is the one time we managed to pull it off. I was really inspired by the music to write something that kind of touches on the whole 2012 Mayan prophecy, end of the world thing. We sit and talk about that all the time – do I believe the world will be ending in a few weeks No, of course not, but it's fun to talk about, and it worked really well in this song."
[/spoiler]
NME
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[spoiler]When Robert Smith died, the remaining members of The Cure did the only thing they could – detuned their instruments, employed a screaming banshee as their frontman and called themselves Deftones. OK, that never happened. But listening to the band the Sacramento quintet have evolved into since forming in 1988, it's not such a crazy idea, such is their fondness for new wave atmos, disarming melodies and sadistic, low-slung riffs. Their seventh album 'Koi No Yokan' – named after a Japanese proverb meaning "promise of love" – comes 17 years after the powering assault of their debut, 'Adrenaline'. It sees them rediscover the venomous snarl of their early years after 2010's slightly limp 'Diamond Eyes', which the band made as they struggled to come to terms with a car accident that left bassist Chi Cheng in a coma. The reflection and experimentation of that record remains, but they sound more bloodthirsty this time around.
From the start, Deftones' songwriting nous is obvious on 'Koi No Yokan', even if it isn't the return to the melancholic sound or sublime character of their 2000 masterpiece 'White Pony' that people have been touting it as. Opener 'Swerve City' is every bit the dangerous change of direction its title suggets, freewheeling between sludgy mounds of guitar and airy melodies while singer Chino Moreno's vocals writhe at its centre. The 39-year-old's lyrics remain crucial to Deftones, providing lightness in contrast to the blunt force trauma of Stephen Carpenter's dark guitar shreds. "Time to let everything inside show", he implores on 'Leathers', the album's thundering centrepiece. "Wear your insides on your outsides". So guttural are his screams, you sometimes wonder if he might be about to follow his advice literally.
It's one of the band's most consistent listens. No song reaches the sledgehammer brutality of 2003 tune 'When Girls Telephone Boys' or the ghostly tenderness of 2010's 'Sextape', but they settle into a mid-paced groove early on that allows their sumptuous textures to breathe. By the time the chug of 'Gauze' stomps into view destroying everything in its past like a guitar-limbed Godzilla, you'll be utterly transfixed.
A good measure of Deftones' importance beyond the world of metal in 2012 is that some of the biggest bands in the world consider them the blueprint of how a band should evolve. Muse snuck a cover of their 1997 track 'Headup' into one of their European arena shows a few weeks back, while Biffy Clyro have modelled their career progression on the way Deftones grew more expansive with each record. Going on 'Koi No Yokan' it's easy to see why they're so revered, even as they enter their third decade. It's a shotgun blast of cranked guitars, bruising hardcore and canyon-sized choruses, and it's mesmerising. [8]
BEST TRACK: 'Romantic Dreams', 'Leathers', 'Graphic Nature'[/spoiler]
How Kerrang! sucks Deftones' dicks will always amaze me.
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 08, 2012, 06:24 PM
How Kerrang! sucks Deftones' dicks will always amaze me.
I think it's cool that they appreciate them.
Metal Hammer Podcast 219 Part 3: Deftones Koi No Yokan Review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPXffSt7X-w#ws)
Quote from: beansandcornbread on Nov 08, 2012, 06:37 PM
Metal Hammer Podcast 219 Part 3: Deftones Koi No Yokan Review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPXffSt7X-w#ws)
"BANGER!"
http://www.spin.com/articles/deftones-koi-no-yokan-stream?utm_source=spintwitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=spintwitter (http://www.spin.com/articles/deftones-koi-no-yokan-stream?utm_source=spintwitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=spintwitter)
According to Spin Magazine, Koi No Yokan is "the rightful successor to White Pony".
This album is going to be a critical darling.
Quote from: Inkblades on Nov 08, 2012, 07:01 PM
This album is going to be a critical darling.
It already is, I think. ;)
Deftones: How they made Koi No Yokan
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10845968&ref=rss (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10845968&ref=rss)
http://www.purevolume.com/news/deftones-purevolume-video-interview-koi-no-yokan (http://www.purevolume.com/news/deftones-purevolume-video-interview-koi-no-yokan)
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Nov 02, 2012, 04:33 PM
Quote from: black coffee on Nov 02, 2012, 03:40 PM
http://uploaded.net/file/jdn0nhmq (http://uploaded.net/file/jdn0nhmq)
scans from German magazine Visions. As a subscriber I got the Converge cover, not the Deftones one.
Thanks, but can't you just upload it to mediafire? I'm struggling with uploaded at the moment
I missed these, could you indeed re-up these to mediafire please??
Quote from: Inkblades on Nov 08, 2012, 06:58 PM
http://www.spin.com/articles/deftones-koi-no-yokan-stream?utm_source=spintwitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=spintwitter (http://www.spin.com/articles/deftones-koi-no-yokan-stream?utm_source=spintwitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=spintwitter)
According to Spin Magazine, Koi No Yokan is "the rightful successor to White Pony".
FUCK THAT.
FUCK. THAT.
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 08, 2012, 11:18 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Nov 08, 2012, 06:58 PM
http://www.spin.com/articles/deftones-koi-no-yokan-stream?utm_source=spintwitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=spintwitter (http://www.spin.com/articles/deftones-koi-no-yokan-stream?utm_source=spintwitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=spintwitter)
According to Spin Magazine, Koi No Yokan is "the rightful successor to White Pony".
FUCK THAT.
FUCK. THAT.
I agree with Spin in that it's the most diverse album since WP.
Vesanic, which album you much like. Koi no yokan or Diamond Eyes?
neither, he loves him some S/T.
Antiquiet review
http://www.antiquiet.com/reviews/2012/11/deftones-burn-brighter-than-ever-on-koi-no-yokan/ (http://www.antiquiet.com/reviews/2012/11/deftones-burn-brighter-than-ever-on-koi-no-yokan/)
5/5
http://drownedinsound.com/releases/17331/reviews/4145717 (http://drownedinsound.com/releases/17331/reviews/4145717)
D In S - 9/10
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Nov 09, 2012, 02:15 PM
Antiquiet review
http://www.antiquiet.com/reviews/2012/11/deftones-burn-brighter-than-ever-on-koi-no-yokan/ (http://www.antiquiet.com/reviews/2012/11/deftones-burn-brighter-than-ever-on-koi-no-yokan/)
5/5
" Raskulinecz establishes a further presence with warm depth in a palette of textures and shifts of gravity in the sound, creating an emotionally-connective atmosphere through nuanced soundscape margins in the negative space. He aids invaluably in bringing home the panic-spaz essence of a space-shuttle crash through Leathers, a romantically epic air of finality rushing toward the ground in grinding surges."
Er.. no? Frank does
Quote from: alan1o on Nov 09, 2012, 03:06 PM
"Raskulinecz establishes a further presence with warm depth in a palette of textures and shifts of gravity in the sound, creating an emotionally-connective atmosphere through nuanced soundscape margins in the negative space. He aids invaluably in bringing home the panic-spaz essence of a space-shuttle crash through Leathers, a romantically epic air of finality rushing toward the ground in grinding surges."
That can't be sentences.
Oh jeez. I sometimes hate reviews because it's like they're tryna turn their review into image-heavy poetry. Overkill. OVERKILL.
Could somone please re-up the Visions scans? Thanks.
Nick produced one of coheed and cambria's worst albums, the 2 worst stone sour records, 2 very meh rush records, the 2 worst foo fighters records, the worst Alice in chains record and one of the worst deftones albums (DE). His track record is pretty bad. He seems like a nice dude but... Goddamn.
Quote from: slyartwork on Nov 09, 2012, 07:54 PM
Could somone please re-up the Visions scans? Thanks.
http://www.visions.de/magazin (http://www.visions.de/magazin)
you can click through the whole issue.deftones starts on page 25
Quote from: mothraw on Nov 09, 2012, 09:43 PM
Quote from: slyartwork on Nov 09, 2012, 07:54 PM
Could somone please re-up the Visions scans? Thanks.
http://www.visions.de/magazin (http://www.visions.de/magazin)
you can click through the whole issue.deftones starts on page 25
Thanks, but I want to see it better ;-)
Quote from: slyartwork on Nov 09, 2012, 09:51 PM
Quote from: mothraw on Nov 09, 2012, 09:43 PM
Quote from: slyartwork on Nov 09, 2012, 07:54 PM
Could somone please re-up the Visions scans? Thanks.
http://www.visions.de/magazin (http://www.visions.de/magazin)
you can click through the whole issue.deftones starts on page 25
Thanks, but I want to see it better ;-)
your inbox is full.
if you want to i send you my visions
Cool, made some space now! Thanks in advance!
http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3202613/album-review-deftones-koi-no-yokan/ (http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3202613/album-review-deftones-koi-no-yokan/)
4.5/5
Quote from: sing blue silver on Nov 09, 2012, 08:45 PM
Nick produced one of coheed and cambria's worst albums, the 2 worst stone sour records, 2 very meh rush records, the 2 worst foo fighters records, the worst Alice in chains record and one of the worst deftones albums (DE). His track record is pretty bad. He seems like a nice dude but... Goddamn.
Couldn't agree less. There are reasons bands like Foo Fighters, Rush, Alice In Chains, Thornley, Trivium, and Deftones want to work with him. He's on fire weather you like it or not.
It is not about Nick, it is about DEFTONES...
By the way,,did you know Beans and Cornbread had a fight Beans knocked Cornbread outta site?
http://www.spin.com/articles/chino-moreno-deftones-koi-no-yokan-interview (http://www.spin.com/articles/chino-moreno-deftones-koi-no-yokan-interview)
...some ideas about we talk about here.
Quote from: White Wrist on Nov 10, 2012, 12:07 PM
http://www.spin.com/articles/chino-moreno-deftones-koi-no-yokan-interview (http://www.spin.com/articles/chino-moreno-deftones-koi-no-yokan-interview)
...some ideas about we talk about here.
nice
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7f58lLCUAA_Qmn.jpg)
Chino with Maxim and Rob of The Prodigy
https://twitter.com/the_prodigy/status/267957522013507585/photo/1
Quote from: Slacker on Nov 10, 2012, 03:16 PM
Quote from: White Wrist on Nov 10, 2012, 12:07 PM
http://www.spin.com/articles/chino-moreno-deftones-koi-no-yokan-interview (http://www.spin.com/articles/chino-moreno-deftones-koi-no-yokan-interview)
...some ideas about we talk about here.
nice
So Chino won't be jumping around screaming is head off when he's 50?! Damn. :-\
Anyway, good interview. :)
Quote from: beansandcornbread on Nov 10, 2012, 04:49 AM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Nov 09, 2012, 08:45 PM
Nick produced one of coheed and cambria's worst albums, the 2 worst stone sour records, 2 very meh rush records, the 2 worst foo fighters records, the worst Alice in chains record and one of the worst deftones albums (DE). His track record is pretty bad. He seems like a nice dude but... Goddamn.
Couldn't agree less. There are reasons bands like Foo Fighters, Rush, Alice In Chains, Thornley, Trivium, and Deftones want to work with him. He's on fire weather you like it or not.
to be efficient and on fire in the studio and produce good music are two different things though. Silver talks about the end result and final product, you seem to talk about efficiency, that it's good for the label when the procedure is rapid and less costly bc of it
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 13, 2012, 02:03 PM
Quote from: beansandcornbread on Nov 10, 2012, 04:49 AM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Nov 09, 2012, 08:45 PM
Nick produced one of coheed and cambria's worst albums, the 2 worst stone sour records, 2 very meh rush records, the 2 worst foo fighters records, the worst Alice in chains record and one of the worst deftones albums (DE). His track record is pretty bad. He seems like a nice dude but... Goddamn.
Couldn't agree less. There are reasons bands like Foo Fighters, Rush, Alice In Chains, Thornley, Trivium, and Deftones want to work with him. He's on fire weather you like it or not.
to be efficient and on fire in the studio and produce good music are two different things though. Silver talks about the end result and final product, you seem to talk about efficiency, that it's good for the label when the procedure is rapid and less costly bc of it
Quote from: chuckles on Nov 14, 2012, 03:45 AM
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 13, 2012, 02:03 PM
Quote from: beansandcornbread on Nov 10, 2012, 04:49 AM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Nov 09, 2012, 08:45 PM
Nick produced one of coheed and cambria's worst albums, the 2 worst stone sour records, 2 very meh rush records, the 2 worst foo fighters records, the worst Alice in chains record and one of the worst deftones albums (DE). His track record is pretty bad. He seems like a nice dude but... Goddamn.
Couldn't agree less. There are reasons bands like Foo Fighters, Rush, Alice In Chains, Thornley, Trivium, and Deftones want to work with him. He's on fire weather you like it or not.
to be efficient and on fire in the studio and produce good music are two different things though. Silver talks about the end result and final product, you seem to talk about efficiency, that it's good for the label when the procedure is rapid and less costly bc of it
No, I'm talking about the final product. Saying his track record is pretty bad couldn't be farther from the truth. If they turned out that bad artists wouldn't want to work with him again. And just the opposite is happening.
If it wasn't for Nick's ability to get the band off their ass and recording songs, Diamond Eyes would have finally been released today and Koi No Yokan wouldn't even exist!
Can someone post the VISIONS scans please ?
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdhj2bqphU1rjluqvo1_1280.jpg)
Vega grabbed Chino's Raybans and Stef Troll-Faces about it without going on the internet :D Abe seems smaller than he is, Frank is asual casual
Stef is so funny.
to look at steph here and not smile yourself is impossible
Quote from: M1GHTY M4VS on Nov 14, 2012, 07:25 PM
Vega grabbed Chino's Raybans and Stef Troll-Faces about it without going on the internet :D Abe seems smaller than he is, Frank is asual casual
Abe is actually quite short. Long story short, when I met them I first saw this little guy in front of me with his back turned (shorter than me, and I'm not very tall at all) and I walked past him, glanced back and it was Abe!
jajajahahahahaha
Again, can someone re-post the VISIONS scans please ?
[spoiler](http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/995/deftonesvisions236page1.jpg)
[/spoiler]
[spoiler](http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/8350/deftonesvisions236page2.jpg)[/spoiler]
[spoiler](http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/897/deftonesvisions236page3.jpg)[/spoiler]
[spoiler](http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/2829/deftonesvisions236page4.jpg)[/spoiler]
[spoiler](http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/2341/deftonesvisions236page5.jpg)[/spoiler]
Edit: Wow, those scans are actually much larger than I thought. Sorry!
Thank you N0S3BLEED976.
Front magazine scans:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/frontmagazine2012no175p.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/7/frontmagazine2012no175p.jpg/)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/frontmagazine2012no175p.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/frontmagazine2012no175p.jpg/)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/405/frontmagazine2012no175p.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/405/frontmagazine2012no175p.jpg/)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/9/frontmagazine2012no175p.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/9/frontmagazine2012no175p.jpg/)
Great scans dawg.
Harry Interviews Chino from Deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaY6dnwhEcw#ws)
Wow, you can see Chino's DNA if you zoom in:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdsu31nVos1rnnzlyo3_1280.jpg (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdsu31nVos1rnnzlyo3_1280.jpg)
He's got something in his teeth...
Kerrang!'s 250 Greatest Rock Songs Of 2012, which we unveiled today, has certainly got people talking - including Deftones' Chino Moreno, who filled Kerrang.com in on their track Goon Squad.
The song, taken from forthcoming album Koi No Yokan, features in our comprehensive list of the year in rock, but what is it alongside? Pick up this week's issue and join the debate below!
But for now, over to you, Chino...
Where and when was the song originally conceived?
Chino Moreno (vocals): "That was one of the first things that we wrote. In the first couple of weeks of writing for the new album we laid down about 25 songs and Goon Squad was one of the songs that survived the cutting down process. It just sort of unfolded from this guitar melody, soundscape kinda piece that builds and builds and then goes into this single note riff. It was a real collaboration between all the guys in the band. It wasn't like somebody came in and said, 'Hey, I have a song idea'. It grew between all of us."
You mention the riff - does that heavy downtuned feel evoke the feel of (2000's) White Pony for you?
"Possibly. I really like the sound of that riff and I guess you could say it's Deftones-esque. If you'd heard us before you could recognise that sound but on this record as a whole we've felt able to dip into different moods and sounds that reflect our whole catalogue and our whole career. We always like to try new things but at the same time still capture the emotion and excitement that we had when we first started out."
Do you enjoy using that sudden tempo shift between the dreamy intro and the heavy riff and dynamics?
"Yeah, absolutely. I love songs that take unexpected shifts. Too many songs, you hear the first 15 seconds and you've pretty much heard the whole song. That can work for some songs and artists but I like different textures and songs that pull you in different directions. This is probably one of our more straightforward songs to be honest but there are still a lot of different things going on in there."
Can you see Goon Squad being a big hitter live?
"We haven't actually played this one live yet. The album's only just come out and we've started easing a few songs like Poltergeist and Rosemary into the live set but we'll try out different songs as time goes on. It doesn't really come into our thought process when we're writing a song. We don't sit around and go, 'You know what would sound good live..?' But different songs do have a different impact when you play them live and I'm looking forward to trying this one out."
Lyrically, is it a bit of a dig at trends and musical fashionistas?
"It's tongue-in-cheek but yes, it's about that sort of thing - trends and fashions. In fact the title comes from the David Bowie song Fashion. There's a line in there where he sings, "We are the goon squad" and there's a little bit of a homage going on there."
Quote from: defsteve on Nov 22, 2012, 03:36 PM
Kerrang!'s 250 Greatest Rock Songs Of 2012, which we unveiled today, has certainly got people talking - including Deftones' Chino Moreno, who filled Kerrang.com in on their track Goon Squad.
The song, taken from forthcoming album Koi No Yokan, features in our comprehensive list of the year in rock, but what is it alongside? Pick up this week's issue and join the debate below!
But for now, over to you, Chino...
Where and when was the song originally conceived?
Chino Moreno (vocals): "That was one of the first things that we wrote. In the first couple of weeks of writing for the new album we laid down about 25 songs and Goon Squad was one of the songs that survived the cutting down process. It just sort of unfolded from this guitar melody, soundscape kinda piece that builds and builds and then goes into this single note riff. It was a real collaboration between all the guys in the band. It wasn't like somebody came in and said, 'Hey, I have a song idea'. It grew between all of us."
You mention the riff - does that heavy downtuned feel evoke the feel of (2000's) White Pony for you?
"Possibly. I really like the sound of that riff and I guess you could say it's Deftones-esque. If you'd heard us before you could recognise that sound but on this record as a whole we've felt able to dip into different moods and sounds that reflect our whole catalogue and our whole career. We always like to try new things but at the same time still capture the emotion and excitement that we had when we first started out."
Do you enjoy using that sudden tempo shift between the dreamy intro and the heavy riff and dynamics?
"Yeah, absolutely. I love songs that take unexpected shifts. Too many songs, you hear the first 15 seconds and you've pretty much heard the whole song. That can work for some songs and artists but I like different textures and songs that pull you in different directions. This is probably one of our more straightforward songs to be honest but there are still a lot of different things going on in there."
Can you see Goon Squad being a big hitter live?
"We haven't actually played this one live yet. The album's only just come out and we've started easing a few songs like Poltergeist and Rosemary into the live set but we'll try out different songs as time goes on. It doesn't really come into our thought process when we're writing a song. We don't sit around and go, 'You know what would sound good live..?' But different songs do have a different impact when you play them live and I'm looking forward to trying this one out."
Lyrically, is it a bit of a dig at trends and musical fashionistas?
"It's tongue-in-cheek but yes, it's about that sort of thing - trends and fashions. In fact the title comes from the David Bowie song Fashion. There's a line in there where he sings, "We are the goon squad" and there's a little bit of a homage going on there."
awesome
Cool little interview that's what i thought the song was about it reminded me alot of Lotion lyrically
Yeah awesome interview, now that I've actually paid attention to these lyrics I love them and I enjoy the song even more.
"Designed special for you by me".
Stuck in my head. The whole song actually reminds me of a less-angry Needles And Pins.
does any one have the article from the eros era were cheng spoke about a few songs and one of the songs was in the works to be called tittle TREMPEST?
Sup guys, i'm looking for a clean and bigger picture of the star that appears on the cover of single Around The Fur or Live EP.
This :
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/89/Deftones_my_own_summer.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/OyekR.jpg)
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8716/ozzfestjapan2013.png)
tool on tour. they'll have to come to southamerica, at last.
Anyone got the new Metal Hammer?
(http://media.metalhammer.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/MHR238deftones.gif)
Is my avatar big enough? :)
Quote from: pinkmaggit69 on Nov 24, 2012, 10:15 PM
Is my avatar big enough? :)
Ah indeed mate. Actually i think to tattoo that star on my ankle but i can't find any clean picture that big.
Quote from: slyartwork on Nov 24, 2012, 09:35 PM
Anyone got the new Metal Hammer?
(http://media.metalhammer.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/MHR238deftones.gif)
we need a bigger scan!
If no one's scanned it in by tomorrow afternoon, I'll pick it up when I'm on lunch and do so when I get home.
is there any chance somebody could scan this in good resolution? I've moved a few months ago to my own appartment and want some more deftones on my walls.
Around the fur (promo)
My own summer (part 1 & 2)
BQAD (the blue one, isn't it?)
Sextape (the single)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me23gbXFj21qkvqtso1_1280.jpg)
that star would have been helpful when i got my tattoo. I made a photo copy of the live cd disc and took it into the tattoo parlor.
http://www.issuu.com/stencilmag/docs/issue16 (http://www.issuu.com/stencilmag/docs/issue16)
Interview with Sergio, starts on page 115. Pretty shit (winced particularly at the question about "how hard it must be to do the last two records without Chi"), but someone here might still want to read it.
God I wish interviewers would stop asking about Chi. Put the oneloveforchi.com address in your article, maybe give some background and urge people to donate but stop asking the band about it in every single fucking interview.
Quote from: closertothelung on Nov 25, 2012, 10:44 PM
http://www.issuu.com/stencilmag/docs/issue16 (http://www.issuu.com/stencilmag/docs/issue16)
Interview with Sergio, starts on page 115. Pretty shit (winced particularly at the question about "how hard it must be to do the last two records without Chi"), but someone here might still want to read it.
thanks, not that bad. just generic.
Quote from: closertothelung on Nov 25, 2012, 10:44 PM
http://www.issuu.com/stencilmag/docs/issue16 (http://www.issuu.com/stencilmag/docs/issue16)
Interview with Sergio, starts on page 115. Pretty shit (winced particularly at the question about "how hard it must be to do the last two records without Chi"), but someone here might still want to read it.
weird to ask vega if it's hard to make a record without chi when he has never done one with him, how could he out of all ppl compare? that question must have been written for another band member
Bad interview.....
Meh...
Quote from: closertothelung on Nov 25, 2012, 03:04 PM
If no one's scanned it in by tomorrow afternoon, I'll pick it up when I'm on lunch and do so when I get home.
You picked it up yet?
Quote from: slyartwork on Nov 27, 2012, 09:38 PM
Quote from: closertothelung on Nov 25, 2012, 03:04 PM
If no one's scanned it in by tomorrow afternoon, I'll pick it up when I'm on lunch and do so when I get home.
You picked it up yet?
Nowhere had it in stock in town when I looked yesterday, which is unusual. I'll check again tomorrow, just in case.
German Metal Hammer scan
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/1637/deftonesscan.jpg (http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/1637/deftonesscan.jpg)
nothing new in it >:(
thank you man
danke dawg :)
Chino Moreno of Deftones | BEACON Moment (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAGkmOJHtg0#ws)
Good interview,man these guys are lucky they made it in their first band I know there was lots of hard work involved but to get the right mix of people is hard, it probably helped that they started so young.
tight
i seen they had a small 2 or 3 page thing in a recent Revolver, was going to buy it and passed on it. Now that I want to buy it I can't find it anywhere. Anyone have a scan of that article/interview/whatever it was. I know it also had a small thing about Chi.
(http://zipmeme.com/uploads/generated/g1342196179928041553.jpg)
(http://i.qkme.me/3qiaol.jpg)
leaves SL for good
makes surprising comeback
was actually never gone
was actually not surprising
It's not my meme.
And black coffee, when I leave, I'll delete my account.
Quote from: black coffee on Dec 03, 2012, 02:17 PM
leaves SL for good
makes surprising comeback
was actually never gone
was actually not surprising
lol
SOAD just posted this ,Stephen and Shavo jamming ,It's weird seeing him behind a drum kit I know he's played before but i've never seen it
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/315818_10151192828889032_793382015_n.jpg)
nice
NEWS HOT OFF THE PRESS....
My Brother just got his copy of the latest Revolver Mag. They list the top 20 Albums of 2012...
#1 Deftones Koi No Yokan
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Dec 06, 2012, 08:40 PM
NEWS HOT OFF THE PRESS....
My Brother just got his copy of the latest Revolver Mag. They list the top 20 Albums of 2012...
#1 Deftones Koi No Yokan
scan please!
bout time those mainstream fucks give the tones thier due.
Koi No Yokan was no. 13 in Guitar World's 50 top albums of 2012.
http://www.guitarworld.com/guitar-worlds-top-50-albums-2012#slide-38 (http://www.guitarworld.com/guitar-worlds-top-50-albums-2012#slide-38)
Quote from: sing blue silver on Dec 11, 2012, 12:20 AM
Koi No Yokan was no. 13 in Guitar World's 50 top albums of 2012.
http://www.guitarworld.com/guitar-worlds-top-50-albums-2012#slide-38 (http://www.guitarworld.com/guitar-worlds-top-50-albums-2012#slide-38)
yeah and uno! from green day is 10th, hahahahaha
Quote from: cvthedrv on Dec 11, 2012, 04:06 AM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Dec 11, 2012, 12:20 AM
Koi No Yokan was no. 13 in Guitar World's 50 top albums of 2012.
http://www.guitarworld.com/guitar-worlds-top-50-albums-2012#slide-38 (http://www.guitarworld.com/guitar-worlds-top-50-albums-2012#slide-38)
yeah and uno! from green day is 10th, hahahahaha
and next to the number 9 that is messhuggah hahahahah, what a fucking joke
Green Day shouldn't be there but what's wrong with Meshuggah Koloss is a great album
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 11, 2012, 04:15 AM
Green Day shouldn't be there but what's wrong with Meshuggah Koloss is a great album
nothing wrong with messhuggah, i fucking love messhuggah, the thing is that beautiful band has to be one place next to green day.
I get you now I sort of discredited the whole poll when I Saw that ,Deftones don't have to be number 1 as long as the ones above them deserve to be there but that poll's ridiculous though some of the one's above them don't deserve to be there or even close to the top.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 11, 2012, 05:52 AM
I get you now I sort of discredited the whole poll when I Saw that ,Deftones don't have to be number 1 as long as the ones above them deserve to be there but that poll's ridiculous though some of the one's above them don't deserve to be there or even close to the top.
exactly.
Guitar World is a fucking rag and nothing they say has any weight. Just figured I'd post it.
they the and open poll for it. if im not mistaken.
Quote from: cvthedrv on Dec 11, 2012, 05:44 AM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 11, 2012, 04:15 AM
Green Day shouldn't be there but what's wrong with Meshuggah Koloss is a great album
nothing wrong with messhuggah, i fucking love messhuggah, the thing is that beautiful band has to be one place next to green day.
fredrik should use green day's new clean as shit guitar tone on sol niger within 2
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Kerrang! Radio: Matt Stocks Interviews Deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0cxSQy9oh0#ws)
Chino comments a little on the Tempest / Trempest thing. Other than that, not really worth watching.
DEFTONES 2012 Denver (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAqA_xo7-ig#ws)
http://www.frontarmy.com/music/deftones-answer-your-questions/ (http://www.frontarmy.com/music/deftones-answer-your-questions/)
Quote from: Front Magazine
A few weeks ago we put a message out on Facebook and Twitter for you to submit questions to Deftones. Here's Chino and Abe asking each other some of the best ones. If your question isn't here, maybe you should try a bit harder next time, yeah?
Quote from: pony_01 on Dec 19, 2012, 05:32 PM
http://www.frontarmy.com/music/deftones-answer-your-questions/ (http://www.frontarmy.com/music/deftones-answer-your-questions/)
Quote from: Front Magazine
A few weeks ago we put a message out on Facebook and Twitter for you to submit questions to Deftones. Here's Chino and Abe asking each other some of the best ones. If your question isn't here, maybe you should try a bit harder next time, yeah?
So Rosemary is about time travel thats cool
Quote from: OnyxPanicProne on Dec 20, 2012, 01:54 PM
Quote from: pony_01 on Dec 19, 2012, 05:32 PM
http://www.frontarmy.com/music/deftones-answer-your-questions/ (http://www.frontarmy.com/music/deftones-answer-your-questions/)
Quote from: Front Magazine
A few weeks ago we put a message out on Facebook and Twitter for you to submit questions to Deftones. Here's Chino and Abe asking each other some of the best ones. If your question isn't here, maybe you should try a bit harder next time, yeah?
So Rosemary is about time travel thats cool
Chino actually mentioned this before and it came up in that shitty twitter Q&A they did. It actually kinda makes me like the song less. Deftones aren't the band I want to see singing about time travel, the apocalypse and whatever the fuck swerve city is about.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Dec 17, 2012, 11:19 PM
Chino comments a little on the Tempest / Trempest thing. Other than that, not really worth watching.
DEFTONES 2012 Denver[url]
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAqA_xo7-ig#ws)
"we're looking forward,we don't want to release something that's 5 years old right now"
eros ain't getting any "younger" so if old is an issue, i can't see them releasing it when they're still a active band
motherfucking chino!!!!!!!!
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/1219/breaking29.html (http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/1219/breaking29.html)
Ha! For a good laugh for sure Chi would love this album.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Dec 20, 2012, 05:49 PM
Quote from: OnyxPanicProne on Dec 20, 2012, 01:54 PM
Quote from: pony_01 on Dec 19, 2012, 05:32 PM
http://www.frontarmy.com/music/deftones-answer-your-questions/ (http://www.frontarmy.com/music/deftones-answer-your-questions/)
Quote from: Front Magazine
A few weeks ago we put a message out on Facebook and Twitter for you to submit questions to Deftones. Here's Chino and Abe asking each other some of the best ones. If your question isn't here, maybe you should try a bit harder next time, yeah?
So Rosemary is about time travel thats cool
Chino actually mentioned this before and it came up in that shitty twitter Q&A they did. It actually kinda makes me like the song less. Deftones aren't the band I want to see singing about time travel, the apocalypse and whatever the fuck swerve city is about.
But Deftones has always been doing that kind of fantasy stuff since White Pony. Its not that much different, just taking it to a different realm.
But with previous releases its been done more ambiguously and in a way that still made the songs personable,Tempest was a bit too straight forward for my liking it didn't have the same mystery and multiple meanings that I like,I feel sort of cut off because I can't take the theme from the song and relate to my own life.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 21, 2012, 07:22 AM
But with previous releases its been done more ambiguously and in a way that still made the songs personable,Tempest was a bit too straight forward for my liking it didn't have the same mystery and multiple meanings that I like,I feel sort of cut off because I can't take the theme from the song and relate to my own life.
So songs like Digital Bath aren't straight forward? Cause I can only see one overlaying theme and its murder sooooo. And tempest for me has multiple meanings, I really dont see this whole "Its about the apocalypse" thing... I dont really see it, its probably just me though
Digital Bath is a lot more abstract if you didn't know what it was about you could get multiple meanings,You could probably say it's about a birth aswell given the whole "new live break away" and "I know you can see ,the cord breakaway" parts ,It has a real duality to it.Tempest is more literal with the whole "Ancients arrival" and "brace for the glory" when i heard it I immediately knew it was about the whole 2012 thing there was no mystery.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Dec 21, 2012, 07:40 AM
Digital Bath is a lot more abstract if you didn't know what it was about you could get multiple meanings,You could probably say it's about a birth aswell given the whole "new live break away" and "I know you can see ,the cord breakaway" parts ,It has a real duality to it.Tempest is more literal with the whole "Ancients arrival" and "brace for the glory" when i heard it I immediately knew it was about the whole 2012 thing there was no mystery.
Never thought of Digital Bath like that, I've always just had Chino's meaning of it in my head the whole time :P. Thats cool though, I could never think of anything but that until now. But for me Tempest can be about murder, suicide, relationships, and revenge. Those are just off the top of my head I'm sure people could think of more though
As far as i can remember Digital bath is a fantasy about electrocuting a woman in the bathtub by throwing some kind of electronic appliance on the water.... really dark stuff if you ask me.
Yeah that's right but if you didn't know it could sound like it's a song about birth with a more positive vibe with the whole "feel like more" parts like being a father has changed him,I just like how when you read the lyrics you could interpret them being about a death or a birth which are compete contrasts.
"It was probably 5 in the morning–we were still up partying–and I just pictured this whole scenario of having this girl, bringing her downstairs and taking a bath and like, out of nowhere, just reaching back and electrocuting–basically throwing some kind of electrical device in the bathtub and then taking her out of the bath and drying her off and putting her clothes back on." – Chino
yup, definately chino singing about being a father
Did you read the earlier posts at all before trying to be a smart-ass,I was talking with the other guy about lyrical styles,I said they used to be more abstract than they are now ,He then said Digital Bath was straightforward with one meaning,I then said ,pay attention this is the part you missed, If you didn't know what Chino wrote it about you could obtain other themes such as a birth,I never said it was about a birth.
they are still abstract its just we've slowly over the years have come to understand exactly whats going on ..the music is learning us just as much as we are learing it-IS A CONSPIRACY!
Deftones were on MTV Rocks (UK) today, in some "playlist choice" kind of show, if I'm correct. Rerun next Friday at 9am.
They've fallen off the radar since KNY came out... They aren't pushing this record... Well I guess you can't please everyone
Seems that physical magazines are dead. I will post these. Hope someone else didn't post these already.
METAL HAMMER dec 2012
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Thanks man some interesting stuff ,It sounds like Chino sort of resents SNW and S/T it sounds like it bugs him knowing they could have done better if it weren't for the record company and other pressures rushing them ,might be why they don't play much of that stuff live.
Loving the shit out of that little "fact" -box on that metal hammer scan.. when in fact nothing about what that box says is a fact :D
Fuck that shit. S/T is great.
Quote from: Inkblades on Jan 18, 2013, 07:50 PM
Fuck that shit. S/T is great.
Seriously. They must have listened to it one time and that's it.
Quote from: nicklav on Jan 18, 2013, 09:20 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Jan 18, 2013, 07:50 PM
Fuck that shit. S/T is great.
Seriously. They must have listened to it one time and that's it.
Chino was getting divorced, was under a lot of label pressure and was trying hard not to piss off the big ol' Steffy when writing songs -immediate thought : all the frustration he must have felt from that time must have led him to some extent to leave the band in 04, right ? nevermind; so I guess the guy mustn't be completely objective about it.
His favorite album is still Around The Fur partly because he had so much fun making it, not because he thinks that's the best music they have ever written to date.
The band has said a million times that they were lazy when they wrote s/t. Sure it's heavy and has a sexy dark vibe to it, but many of the songs sound unfinished like they got 3/4 the way through writing them and called it a day (due to all of the strife and ill feelings in the group at the time affecting motivation). There's some awesome ideas on there, I just wish the songs were more fleshed out and I think the band agrees.
lol @ 'robotic handclaps'
S/T > KNY
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Jan 21, 2013, 12:47 AM
Sure it's heavy and has a sexy dark vibe to it, but many of the songs sound unfinished like they got 3/4 the way through writing them and called it a day...There's some awesome ideas on there, I just wish the songs were more fleshed out.
You could make the same exact argument about KNY.
Quote from: Inkblades on Jan 21, 2013, 11:20 PM
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Jan 21, 2013, 12:47 AM
Sure it's heavy and has a sexy dark vibe to it, but many of the songs sound unfinished like they got 3/4 the way through writing them and called it a day...There's some awesome ideas on there, I just wish the songs were more fleshed out.
You could make the same exact argument about KNY.
you could but you'd be wrong lol
Quote from: Bifrost on Jan 21, 2013, 11:44 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Jan 21, 2013, 11:20 PM
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Jan 21, 2013, 12:47 AM
Sure it's heavy and has a sexy dark vibe to it, but many of the songs sound unfinished like they got 3/4 the way through writing them and called it a day...There's some awesome ideas on there, I just wish the songs were more fleshed out.
You could make the same exact argument about KNY.
you could but you'd be wrong lol
Have to agree hear KNY is a very cohesive and complete sounding record, saying that I still love the brokenness of S/T
Quote from: Bifrost on Jan 21, 2013, 11:44 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Jan 21, 2013, 11:20 PM
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Jan 21, 2013, 12:47 AM
Sure it's heavy and has a sexy dark vibe to it, but many of the songs sound unfinished like they got 3/4 the way through writing them and called it a day...There's some awesome ideas on there, I just wish the songs were more fleshed out.
You could make the same exact argument about KNY.
you could but you'd be wrong lol
Yeah there's really no argument. The songwriting on KNY is their most progressive yet. They had hints of this kind of writing on their past albums but nothing this grand. The solos, layering, structures, intros/outros, time changes/signatures, etc. KNY is all over the place. You can make the argument that it's their least heavy or dark and I'd agree with you. But to say that the songwriting on S/T is stronger is verifiably false.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Jan 22, 2013, 12:37 AM
Quote from: Bifrost on Jan 21, 2013, 11:44 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Jan 21, 2013, 11:20 PM
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Jan 21, 2013, 12:47 AM
Sure it's heavy and has a sexy dark vibe to it, but many of the songs sound unfinished like they got 3/4 the way through writing them and called it a day...There's some awesome ideas on there, I just wish the songs were more fleshed out.
You could make the same exact argument about KNY.
you could but you'd be wrong lol
Yeah there's really no argument. The songwriting on KNY is their most progressive yet. They had hints of this kind of writing on their past albums but nothing this grand. The solos, layering, structures, intros/outros, time changes/signatures, etc. KNY is all over the place. You can make the argument that it's their least heavy or dark and I'd agree with you. But to say that the songwriting on S/T is stronger is verifiably false.
WORD.
Ha. There absolutely is an argument. I think KNY is a good album, but it lacks the multi-layered depth of S/T. S/T is more of an album to get lost in and explore. KNY is all surfaces. Also, KNY is not that progressive. Sure, they are trying out some new sounds, but they have been trying out new sounds on every single album since Adrenaline. In that regard, I would say WP and even SNW are more progressive than KNY. If anything, KNY has extremely repetitive song structures, even by Deftones' already repetitive standards. Also, it's "verifiably false" that S/T doesn't have stronger songwriting? Really? Sorry, I didn't know that. How did you verify it? Through a statistics report?
Personally, I'd take Hexagram, WGTB, Needles & Pins, Minerva, Deathblow, Battle-Axe and Bloody Cape over almost everything on KNY. I think one of KNY's biggest problems, and it kills me to say this, is Stephen. Extremely lazy riffs from him this time around (something that from_musings noted). Just take that hard riff near the end of Rosemary. It's damn near identical to the one at the end of Diamond Eyes. His riffs on S/T blow his work on KNY out of the water.
S/T is my preferred album but songs are alot simpler than KNY I notice it especially when playing the guitar parts KNY has lots more layered riffs where Chino and Steph playing different things plus with S/T the songs don't really have twists to them that KNY has with songs like Rosemary. S/T definitely has magic that draws you in but when you're talking about the more complete and fleshed out album it has to be KNY there's so much going on in these songs compared to S/T especially with all the intros and outros
Chino's voice is a big part of what puts S/T above KNY for me. There is hardly anything on KNY that matches Hexagram, WGTB, Moana, etc. in terms of vocal delivery.
Roy Biggins a.k.a Lord of the Roys a.k.a Deep Pockets Roy really enjoys KNY , but not in the same way as S/T. S/T has those classic Deftones songs that get Roy fired up and make him want to get work done and straighten shit out. The Main Roy loves when Chino ends tracks with rapid brutal screams and that technique is prevelant on almost all their albums at least a couple times. Dai the Flu, Bored, and Needles and Pins being some of Big Roy's favorites. A track like that doesn't exist on KNY and Roy thinks Graphic Nature would of been a good one to add to. Chino screaming never gets old to me, but on the other hand Chef Royardee knows he's older and the screams are tough to pull off live. Overall Roy likes what they did on KNY, it's a great addition to their discography. WBW Word Be Word. 4 T's and a B. Take That To The Bank. Roy Biggins a.k.a The Deer (bc Roy runs as fast as one) is out!
Well said Roy. As always. Seriously, this guys posts are a treat to read.
Whether Roy is a band member (I highly doubt it) or just some dude (probably) he is making me constantly lol and appreciate his posts at the same time. respect.
I believe Roy is just your typical crackhead... Roy Biggins... Related to Tyrone Biggums... haha
@deftoolsys07 Big Roy doesn't use drugs. Cool joke though, The Roy can't stop laughing. Anyways if that is your picture on that soundcloud link, you need to try lifting some weights or a sandwich, talk about looking like a crackhead haha damn. ATKT. Absorb that, know that
Seriously people.... Where are the Deftones pictures, interviews, magazine scans.....
anyone have this set?
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Where's that from? looks like Self Titled era
It's definitely from that era
Obviously a bad night for Deftones... Chino is collapsing and Frank is performing CPR on someone...
Quote from: deftoolsys07 on Jan 30, 2013, 09:07 AM
Obviously a bad night for Deftones... Chino is collapsing and Frank is performing CPR on someone...
jesus man, didnt realise you were referencing that photo above.
nearly had a fucking heart attack. haha
the shows from that era where great imo.
anyone have any of those pictures? if i remember correctly they where hosted on their official website
Quote from: lithium on Jan 30, 2013, 11:00 AM
the shows from that era where great imo.
anyone have any of those pictures? if i remember correctly they where hosted on their official website
it's also on the s/t cd-rom thingymajingy
Quote from: slyartwork on Jan 26, 2013, 02:48 PM
Seriously people.... Where are the Deftones pictures, interviews, magazine scans.....
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Interview with Sergio - http://www.worksopguardian.co.uk/lifestyle/what-s-on/interview-deftones-on-chi-eros-their-legacy-and-their-future-1-5412717 (http://www.worksopguardian.co.uk/lifestyle/what-s-on/interview-deftones-on-chi-eros-their-legacy-and-their-future-1-5412717)
My girlfriend was on the bus this morning and noticed something I might find interesting in the free paper.
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Ah the Metro...blanketing bus floors all over this great nation.
Deftones - The Shure Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kNZxklADXw#ws)
That Shure interview was great ! thanks for sharing.
Quote from: dangerballs on Feb 18, 2013, 02:59 PM
Ah the Metro...blanketing bus floors all over this great nation.
LOL
Yeah absolutely loved that interview. Thanks man
THE SPOTLIGHT - Chino Moreno - Deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB4O_lR2wmw#ws)
http://www.rocksound.tv/photos/article/live-loud-deftones (http://www.rocksound.tv/photos/article/live-loud-deftones)
2001-07-21 - Cricket Wireless Pavilion, Phoenix, AZ
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w/ Max Cavalera
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Knife Prty feat Rodleen Getsic
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Quote from: sing blue silver on Feb 23, 2013, 01:06 AM
THE SPOTLIGHT - Chino Moreno - Deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB4O_lR2wmw#ws)
Nice, thank you.
correction: the most emotional moments for chino on stage obviously were during the chi benefit conserts. it wasn't when he got annoyed at stephens fan like he says here- that was just a joke (chino confirmed this). another thing, why does chino keep saying "making music out of nothing" in interviews like that's a big thing, that would go for most bands unless you're a cover band.
Quote from: from_musings on Feb 26, 2013, 02:00 PM
correction: the most emotional moments for chino on stage obviously were during the chi benefit conserts. it wasn't when he got annoyed at stephens fan like he says here- that was just a joke (chino confirmed this). another thing, why does chino keep saying "making music out of nothing" in interviews like that's a big thing, that would go for most bands unless you're a cover band.
I think because if you think about it, it is a big thing. Y'know hearing feelings as sounds that come together from 5 different individuals.
yes it's a big thing if you compare it to you and me and what we could do. but they're a band, and making music from nothing is what bands do. so compared to all other non cover bands that ever existed it's no big deal
Quote from: from_musings on Feb 26, 2013, 03:40 PM
yes it's a big thing if you compare it to you and me and what we could do. but they're a band, and making music from nothing is what bands do. so compared to all other non cover bands that ever existed it's no big deal
Yeah everyone has to deal with it but it's still one of the hardest parts of making an album especially because as they said they don't go in with pre conceived themes like alot of bands do, Day 1 they have nothing at all.
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haha good read love those captions especially the one about Chino reaching 48mph
Was at that show. It was one of the best times I have seen them I must admit and they were indeed in good moods.
Kerrang! always seem to put witty captions into the pictures.
Enjoy this funny Q&A session with Chino ;D
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Interesting read! Crystal meth? Damn! Awake for weekS at a time? Is that shit even possible? Damn.
Quote from: Martin on Feb 27, 2013, 05:17 PMAwake for weekS at a time? Is that shit even possible? Damn.
Maybe if you deal with crystal meth :) But DON'T TRY IT!
haha.....Drummers bang all night! Good one, Chino!
Love the picture of the toilet roll. Subtle.
That was the most refreshing Q&A with Chino that I've read in a long time.
I love that dude.
Quote from: DefAlx on Feb 27, 2013, 05:22 PM
Quote from: Martin on Feb 27, 2013, 05:17 PMAwake for weekS at a time? Is that shit even possible? Damn.
Maybe if you deal with crystal meth :) But DON'T TRY IT!
Yeah, guess so. Still, weeks man? Damn.
Haha definitely not trying that
can someone please post this interview in type? my only internet is a crap phone and im dying to but cant read it :(
Deftones Quizz : Who knows the best his own band ? [Interview 2013 ] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4sRYBEP_Mw#ws)
this is pretty shit btw haha
Quote from: play on Mar 02, 2013, 12:09 PM
Deftones Quizz : Who knows the best his own band ? [Interview 2013 ] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4sRYBEP_Mw#ws)
this is pretty shit btw haha
Thank god i know a little french lol great game though! Loved this! People should do this more often
Quote from: play on Mar 02, 2013, 12:09 PM
Deftones Quizz : Who knows the best his own band ? [Interview 2013 ] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4sRYBEP_Mw#ws)
this is pretty shit btw haha
I translated all the questions in the comments of the video.
Thank You !
I dont know if this was posted before, but its cool how its explain the process of recording Koi No Yokan with some pics
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DEFTONES – MODELING FOR MAYHEM
THE DEFTONES REFINE IDEA SPARKS—AND MAKE A LOT OF NOISE IN THE PROCESS—IN THE KOI NO YOKAN STUDIO SESSIONS.
AFTER THE 2008 car accident that sidelined Deftones bassist Chi Cheng, the Sacramento-based metal-cum-experimental quartet released Diamond Eyes, a head-on collision of attitudinal fury and bombastic physicality that was anything but pretty. But it was necessary, a purging brew that expressed all the collective pain of a pack of wounded wolves. Known equally for their head-butting jams and intense intra-band squabbles, The Deftones finally found a way to put the past to rest.
"Diamond Eyes was the record they needed to make to reunify the band," producer Nick Rasculinecz explains. "It was a record of heavy riffs. This new record was a less about the riff, per se, and more about getting back to this futuristic, progressive sound that defines what The Deftones have become."
On Koi No Yokan, The Deftones find artistic fulfillment in an evolutionary album of cerebral moods and psychedelic sounds coupled to the most propulsive rhythm section grooves the band has ever recorded. It's Deftones 2.0. Or is that 3.0? "The songs are very different from each other—not heavier or slower, but more dynamic, going toward several directions; it's heavy, but beautiful," said vocalist Chino Moreno.
Tracked at Paramount Recording Studios (Studio C, Hollywood), Ameraycan Recording Studios (North Hollywood) and the now-defunct The Pass, Koi No Yokan was largely enabled by some fairly freakish guitar and bass processing, allowing The Deftones to create songs from sounds and tones rather than riffs. Moreno howled his trademark nausea-inducing spew, guitarist Stephen Carpenter played his Signature ESP SC608 LTD Baritone 8 (and seven) String Electric Guitars, bassist Sergio Vega followed suit with his Fender Jaguar bass, keyboardist/turntablist Frank Delgado worked in Ableton, drummer Abe Cunningham produced the brightest beats of his life. But regarding the recording process, the real game changer was Fractal Audio Systems Axe-FX II Preamp FX Processor.
"The Deftones have always had a futuristic element to their sound, but it's not as prevalent on the last record," Rasculinecz says. "[This time] we started with brand-new sounds from Fractal Audio, which was a big sonic shift for the band. It's the first record where Stephen hasn't used the same amp and cab as on every record before. That alone lent itself to creating a fresh take on the music. Fractal opened up a whole new world of sonic elements that we didn't have on the last record and it really took Stephen and Sergio out of the box."
"We put a lot of energy into our tones," Vega explains. "Both Stephen and I used Fractal Audio Systems Axe-Fx II. It's like an amp modeler, but not really. It's in that vein, with different effects and MIDI control that lets you link to various outboard pedals. The Fractal gave us a means to express ideas that would be harder to execute using standard equipment. It's compact, so we're able to take tones and work in a way that we couldn't with traditional gear. We used [Native Instruments] Guitar Rig on Diamond Eyes in conjunction with amps. Then we heard that Chris Traynor from Bush had been using Fractal. He explained Fractal to us and we quickly fell in love with it.
"We can bring Fractal into hotel rooms and run it into software and record ideas and flesh them out later," he adds. "You're literally listening to the same unit you bring to the stage, the same unit you bring to the studio, the same unit that you have at home. It's compact, and it works in all these different environments. It makes the most out of those moments of inspiration. It's not so much a scratch pad; everything is working toward the final track. It's great to have that consistency."
At Paramount and The Pass, engineer Matt Hyde set up multiple amp and miking scenarios; Vega and Carpenter recorded with all amps running, then dumped the sounds into Fractal. Guitar amps included Bogner Ueberschall Series 120W, Diezel Herbert, Marshall JCM8000, and Engl Special Edition E 670 100W, with various 4x12 cabinets. For miking duties, whether on bass or guitar amps, Hyde used a Beyer M160 or a Shure SM 57, or a 57 with a Sennheiser MD 421 through various Neve preamp. "Maybe I will put a room mic up," Hyde explains, "on axis, off axis, or combine the two; it depends on what you're trying to get out of the cabinet. And you don't want to use the same speaker size and mic over and over again; it will repeat that sound later on."
Vega's Jaguar Bass ran into a Marshall 9200/Marshall 4x12 stack, as well as an Ampeg SVT/Ampeg 8x10 cab. The bass signal was also shadowed into a Palmer Audio tube DI, and a standard DI for reamping.
Hyde explains the Fractal Audio process: "It performs a frequency analysis of the sound. You mock up a sound similar to the [guitar or bass] with a similar gain using the Fractal, but it won't sound anything like the sound you are recording. You record eight bars of a sound through a Diezel or an Ueberschall then record eight bars of the same exact part into the Fractal, then you hit 'match' and suddenly the two sounds becomes one. It's bizarre, like a tone-modeling thing. It has a comprehensive foot-switching feature and looping device and effects."
"It's not so much that Fractal gives you sounds you wouldn't have gotten otherwise," Vega comments, "but it gives you sounds that you would have needed a lot of different outboard amps and pedals to achieve otherwise. So with this one unit, we had a wide series of amp models and effects and mics, and we built these really cool presets. If you're using traditional pedals, you'll have these long chains. Using Fractal allowed us to do more manipulation more efficiently. It allowed us to route things to a particular switch and do something more drastic. It helped us create different tones, which were at the core of the writing process. It's the inspiration the sounds gave us that created the parts."
But the Fractal inserts only occurred after an organic immersion into live tracking. This isn't the programmed electronic terrain of Skrillex, after all, but the dark, dragging-the-river-for-corpses sound of The Deftones. Rasculinecz details the process: "We tracked guitar, bass, and vocal to a click, then recorded the drums to that, then replaced the bass, guitar and vocals. I don't make Tom Petty records. There's never four or five dudes playing in the room together. It's more of a systematic approach; we get a rough guide, then focus on each instrument for tuning and timing. I usually record drums, then guitar, then bass, then vocal and other overdubs. I like to tailor the sound based off the instrument's individual characteristics and how they work together."
"Everything was organic," Vega confirms. "We had fun playing around with gear and making different tones. Usually something will catch and we'll start jamming on it. We spend a lot of time refining a spark. We don't give ourselves too many parameters other than that. We just show up and experiment with tones and building parts. We'd all start noodling and someone's riff would congeal and we'd all fall in line with that. All the while we're recording into Pro Tools or Ableton, then we'll edit the results to work on it. We'll work on ideas, listen to the progression then build on that. The main thing was all the tones we created."
Paramount's Hollywood Studios were built in the 1970s based on a Westlake Audio design. Rasculinecz describes it as a "cool, '70s kind of vibe. It's dry sounding. It added to the overall punch of the record. It's not too big of a room so nothing was washed out. It's a big, live room that was actually really dead sounding."
When possible everything was recorded at 24/96 even though there were downsides, something not often mentioned when discussing the digital frontier of super hi-res recording.
"24/96 is a whole other odyssey, and requires a different approach," Hyde explains. "You have to cut the drums and assign them to one drive, then once done with drums, you do everything else on a second drive, otherwise it all gets too bogged down. 24/96 is better, if it can be done, budget-wise. The resolution is higher, and there is more information. When it comes to depth, it makes a huge difference. The upside is sound quality, but the more tracks involved, 96k halves your processing power and you have half as many plug-ins. It makes mixing more difficult and as you continue, it's more taxing on the system. It's smoother to run at 24/48, but 24/96 sounds fantastic. If it's critical with less overdubs, I won't have as many tracks anyway, and I won't need as much processing. But with a lot of processing and when you go to mix I want all my tools available."
In addition to Paramount's SSL consoles, Hyde brought in Neve preamps of every description, including a Neve sidecar with 1065s, 1055s, 1073s, and 1081s, and a "whole bunch of API and Helios stuff." The sum total is a big, roomy sound that particularly benefitted Abe Cunningham's drums. Hyde also pulled some old school techniques out of his trick bag.
"Paramount's room sounds great, and I also did a lot of work with the room tracks using Valley People Dyna-Mite to key the room mics," Hyde says. "I'll key far room mics with an expander off the snare drum mic. When the snare is struck those open up and a kind of distorted room sound mixes in with the other room sounds. The signal passes through continuously, but it's ducked down by about 6dB, then when the snare hits, it opens up to the full amount and is somewhat distorted. I'll have several room mics up and blend in some larger, more distorted room mics so they only enter during the snare and kick hits and that adds to the liveness of the room tracks. Ultimately the recorded room sound is very dynamic and pulsates with the drum sound."
The drum sound on Koi No Yokan is massive, owing to Cunningham's kinetic rumble, the room's characteristics, and Hyde's extensive miking approach. "The first thing I do when miking drums is listen," Hyde explains. "We make sure to listen in different places in the room and then place the mics based on that. For room mics I used RCA 44- BX ribbon mics about six to eight feet out and to the left and right, they happened to sound great. The RCA ribbon mics mostly picked up snare and kick. So I moved them more to the middle and they became these center mono ribbon mics. Deeper out in the room, we used a pair of Coles facing down at the floor, low to the floor; I don't want to pick up a lot of cymbals. That's one way to get smooth room sound without a lot of cymbals. Then we added some condenser mics: Neumann U47s and U67s, far out in the room. We used a really beautiful pair of Bock Audio 241s as overheads. In this case I did the whole 3-to-1 ratio left and right over the cymbals, one off to the ride, one off to the hi-hat and snare mic. I placed them until I got a good stereo image without phase cancellation, no weird figure-8; I went for the old, typical left-and-right placement. Then a mono Shure SM 57 behind the drums, and I messed around with gating that too. I gated the condensers with that distorted idea again.
"Another trick mic I use a lot is a Shure 520DX Green Bullet Harmonica mic right behind the drummer's head," Hyde adds, always ready to reveal secrets gained from years of experience recording everyone from Monster Magnet, No Doubt, Slayer, and Staind to Sum 41 and Pornos for Pyros. "It sounds like hell, but I do a whole thing with it where I will use some kind of compression and make it sound very trashy and midrangey and mix it into the overall kit sound to give the snare some attack and midrange. But you have to be careful 'cause it can sound like sh*t when the cymbals are up. For that, I usually use a Urei 1176 with all buttons in."
Though room mics played a large role in the album's expansive drum sound, of course close miking was also employed. Hyde taped together Shure SM57 and KM84 mics for the top snare head, with a Sennheiser MD 441 on the bottom snare and Sennhesier 602 clip-on mics for the rack toms. AKG 414EBs covered the floor toms, a pair of matched Bock Audio 251s for direct overheads, and a Shure KM 84 over ride cymbal and hi-hat. Three mics picked up the bass drum: a Sennhesier 602 in the kick, Neumann U47 FET on the outside, Yamaha NS10 subwoofer for low frequencies. Last, but certainly without placing least, Moreno's stomach-churning vocals got the full Rasculinecz and Hyde treatment.
"We really focused more on the songs and vocal melodies," Rasculinecz says. "I pushed Chino to sing more and get beyond any boundaries or confines from the last record. He just needs encouragement and honesty and a mic. He has so many ideas, and like any singer he might have a hard time in a certain spot so he looks to me for an honest evaluation. He's made a lot of records and works with other bands so he is constantly singing. The big thing on this record is just how great he sounds. These are some of his best vocals ever."
Chino vocal's chain was a dual affair: the Bock Audio 251 into a Martech MSS-10 preamp into a DBX 160, sans EQ. For "harder, heavier vocals" (according to Hyde), a Shure SM 7 was inserted into the same chain, and they "turned the mic pre up a couple clicks."
"The Martech has a massive amount of headroom to provide for that amazing, super-smooth mic," Hyde says. "The Bock Audio (now Sound Deluxe) 251 is a beautiful mic. They consistently beat out most vintage 251s. We used it pretty pure with a little compression for Chino. But in Pro Tools, he wants to hear a lot of distortion and delays, depending on the part he's laying down. It's all done in the box as he's doing it. So we dial up a vocal sound similar to what we want to hear in the mix as we're doing it, but it's all in the monitor; it's not always recorded that way. In the past, I used an old 1950s RCA P.A. head into a Palmer speaker simulator and got my vocal distortion that way."
A collective effort that mirrors a communal soul dredging itself up from some personal hell with slamming rhythms, neck-snapping yet slinky beats, ethereal moods, and space rock sounds, Koi No Yokan is The Deftones advancing their art. From off-kilter pounder "Swerve City" to the ominous, bloodletting riot "Leathers" to the atmospheric "Tempest" to The Police-worthy allusions of "What Happened to You?" it's an album of calculations and permutations. The Deftones have never sounded so concise, so purposeful, so ready to destroy the box of expectation. They've retained their heavy metal pummel crunch and crash, yet upped the game with something that almost escapes definition. Futuristic? Progressive? Poetic? And to think they did it by taking advantage of all technology has to offer. While many embrace old-school technologies, The Deftones refuse to be haltered to the yoke of fashion.
"It's funny," Frank Delgado says. "Stephen always wanted the biggest amps, but now he's into the Fractal. But even with no amps, it's still loud as hell and we're still a rock band. There's nothing pretentious, we bang it out and we fight, but we have a good time. All the technical stuff aside, it's each of us in our own little worlds on our separate workstations trying to make it as easy as possible when we do get together. It's all about the songs; the technical stuff and the gear is in the back of our minds. We're just trying to make cool sounds."
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Cool read man. I wish there was more of this stuff around for any band. Way more fascinating to me than a normal "where did you come from for this record" type deal.
someone please get us a scan of this from the latest Kerrang! thanks :)
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ITB meet Deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu-gJTg0BCw#ws)
Every bands says they like Japan, Apparently the concerts can be weird though I've heard the crowd goes crazy during songs but then goes completely silent in between songs because they respect that you are setting up for the next song they don't want to distract you.
Metal Hammer Podcast 234 Part 1: Deftones London Brixton Academy Review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw7zHZidiUU#ws)
Quote from: play on Mar 02, 2013, 12:09 PM
Deftones Quizz : Who knows the best his own band ? [Interview 2013 ] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4sRYBEP_Mw#ws)
this is pretty shit btw haha
I love those dudes.
..Also love those sound effects when they find the right answer.
Quote from: Gee on Mar 07, 2013, 10:08 PM
Quote from: play on Mar 02, 2013, 12:09 PM
Deftones Quizz : Who knows the best his own band ? [Interview 2013 ] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4sRYBEP_Mw#ws)
this is pretty shit btw haha
I love those dudes.
..Also love those sound effects when they find the right answer.
haha salt and pepper
http://www.spin.com/gallery/deftones-terminal-5-new-york-city-live-photos (http://www.spin.com/gallery/deftones-terminal-5-new-york-city-live-photos)
Awesome photos...looks like an intense show!
Deftones Interview with Abe Cunningham and Sergio Vega on 2013 Koi No Yokan Tour (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXMCAOeeyeE#ws)
haha Fuck that got awkward especially the fist bump bit
Quote from: dawg on Mar 06, 2013, 08:54 PM
someone please get us a scan of this from the latest Kerrang! thanks :)
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Quote from: shoop on Mar 14, 2013, 01:26 AM
Deftones Interview with Abe Cunningham and Sergio Vega on 2013 Koi No Yokan Tour (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXMCAOeeyeE#ws)
These guys are just as lost as we are concerning the music videos !
Deftones are mentioned in this Gloria Cavalera article http://www.gloriacavalera.com/2013/03/hold-your-headup-high-dana-wells.html?spref=fb (http://www.gloriacavalera.com/2013/03/hold-your-headup-high-dana-wells.html?spref=fb)
I remember in one of the WP webcast interview sessions Max and Gloria sent that lady in a cake to them with a poem, it was so awkward Chino was like "What the fuck?" plus the interviewer was crazy.
another one over there http://www.gloriacavalera.com/2013/03/the-deftones-join-tribe.html (http://www.gloriacavalera.com/2013/03/the-deftones-join-tribe.html)
nice reading
I know the guy on the left with the tattoo of Chino screaming on his head.
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Quote from: BillyNo.9 on Mar 21, 2013, 11:13 PM
I know the guy on the left with the tattoo of Chino screaming on his head.
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:D I took a photo of this guy as well - He was happy to pose and show his tattoo :) Great night. Stephen, Sergio, Abe - and Juan - stayed for quite a while after the gig.
Haha sick. His name's Kyle he's a local skater and a shit hot tattooist. Gonna try get him to do a s/t skull piece on my leg some time soon.
That's cool :) Steph was like WTF! when he showed him the tattoo, lol, and after that lots of people were flashing their ink on various bodyparts.
By the way, here are some pretty cool tattoos from my Chi page :)
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.248222781872547.76250.100000544806788&type=3 (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.248222781872547.76250.100000544806788&type=3)It's set to public so hopefully you should be able to see them. If not, let me know.
Some awesome tats on that page but also some really shit one's, I don't get why people skimp on tattoo's out of everything you buy I thought you would make sure your tattoo wasn't cheap and nasty, and the quality difference is very noticeable,Still some amazing tattoos there, some of those have been done by true artists.
I think my deftones kitty from like linus is on that page. On my phone now and too lazy to check. Also the "walk into this world with your head up high" script down my forearm might be on there.
If anybody is interested, I photoshopped out the word deftones on the hexagram single artwork
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Thank you! I've been thinking about getting that done like that since fuckin 2003!
I'm interested, thank you!! high quality images are always appreciated.
Quote from: therealdaebat on Mar 30, 2013, 12:54 AM
If anybody is interested, I photoshopped out the word deftones on the hexagram single artwork
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too late hahaha thank you bud, I get inked two months ago
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Quote from: luisch on Mar 30, 2013, 04:10 PM
too late hahaha thank you bud, I get inked two months ago
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good depilation, bro
HAHAHAH
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Quote from: therealdaebat on Mar 30, 2013, 12:54 AM
If anybody is interested, I photoshopped out the word deftones on the hexagram single artwork
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too late hahaha thank you bud, I get inked two months ago
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Very nice!
Deftones-Stephen Carpenter-Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PFIFPD4uVk#ws)
Cool interview, Stef's a pretty wise guy I agreed with alot his views on stuff like piracy and the music industry, Good for him that he wants to go to school again Tosin Abasi did it and he said he helped him tons. Those youtube vids he's talking about sound cool aswell it's going to be interesting to hear him on acoustic aswell as drums and bass.
Finally Stef in an interview. I love to hear him talk 10.000 times better than the others!
Quote from: slyartwork on Apr 01, 2013, 09:34 AM
Finally Stef in an interview. I love to hear him talk 10.000 times better than the others!
I agree it's like you're getting real insight with him he's just a honest normal dude,there's no rehearsed lines that come up in every other interview, Stef does usually get asked the more interesting questions though I'm surprised Chino didn't kill himself after being asked what Koi No Yokan meant so many times.
Love Steph
they're soooo stoned lol
I have hung out with the Band several times and by far Steph loves the fans most...
Finally some scans. You people are slow! We need to keep posting stuff from magazines etc etc!
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cheers for Kerrang scan. I thought the request was forgotten.
I found someone who wanted to scan those for me.
thank ypu so much!
Thank you so much, Sly!
Thank you for Kerrang scans!
Quote from: slyartwork on Apr 02, 2013, 09:09 PM
You people are slow!
At the central station in my city the magazine is sold as an import for like 12 or 13 Euros. For that money I can also buy a crate of beer, and to me that is one of the easiest decisions in life.
Thank you for the scan, Sly.
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from left to right: Todd Wilkinson (Team Sleep), Chino Moreno, Gil Sharone (ex Dillinger Escape Plan) and Chuck Doom (Crosses) at the Guitar Center Expo, in Long Beach, California, april 6th 2013.
Pic by Angel Silva
Quote from: luisch on Apr 07, 2013, 04:42 AM
from left to right: Todd Wilkinson (Team Sleep), Chino Moreno, Gil Sharone (ex Dillinger Escape Plan) and Chuck Doom (Crosses) at the Guitar Center Expo, in Long Beach, California, april 6th 2013.
Pic by Angel Silva
Nice! What did they play?
They played the Years and just improvised. Jakobi Moreno was on the keys.
Quote from: luisch on Apr 08, 2013, 03:21 AM
They played the Years and just improvised. Jakobi Moreno was on the keys.
Chinos son was on it!? Bro is there any footage? Much appreciated luis!
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Quote from: luisch on Apr 08, 2013, 03:21 AM
They played the Years and just improvised. Jakobi Moreno was on the keys.
Chinos son was on it!? Bro is there any footage? Much appreciated luis!
Yup, there some footage, I'm trying to get it. De nada, compadre.
from 13thwitness's tumblr
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Great pictures. I love the one with Frank on Keys
Some brilliant pictures there.
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It's fake, lol. Sly's work.
Much respect,
-Matt
lol
Kerrang Issue no 1463 - Out today. I wasn't sure whether to post it here, or to post it in the Chi thread I started..?
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Deftones - Lead guitarist Stephen Carpenter about the Palmer PDI-CTC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWF5YZRR22g#ws)
I have no clue of playing the guitar. What's all that equipment in the video even good for? Don't you just need a guitar with the right tuning and an amplifier to play?
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Apr 29, 2013, 04:16 PM
I have no clue of playing the guitar. What's all that equipment in the video even good for? Don't you just need a guitar with the right tuning and an amplifier to play?
I used to think the same thing lol .. but no.. alot of this is actually needed .. some of those effects are what makes songs like BQAD and lotion .. birthmark and korea as well .. and passenger .. its all very much needed .. trust me ;)
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Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Apr 29, 2013, 04:16 PM
I have no clue of playing the guitar. What's all that equipment in the video even good for? Don't you just need a guitar with the right tuning and an amplifier to play?
I used to think the same thing lol .. but no.. alot of this is actually needed .. some of those effects are what makes songs like BQAD and lotion .. birthmark and korea as well .. and passenger .. its all very much needed .. trust me ;)
Well that's not an effects unit in the video, it's practically a tube pre-amp. Since Stef doesn't use an amp on stage anymore, he's just plugging his guitar straight into his rig (rack) which goes straight to the front-of-house. What this thing does is give his rig the sound like it's going through a tube amp, even though his Axe-FX already has amp emulators on there.
To answer your question about what the equipment is even good for, if you don't have an idea about playing guitar, then don't worry about it haha. It's not a crucial part of his sound or anything like that. And in this case, yeah you would just need a guitar (in the right tuning, of course that would be wise) and not even an amplifier, but just an amp emulator.
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Can you scan it, Sly? thanks in advance
I would if I owned it. This is from Kerrangs FB site. Scans will follow though. I know user Sugartolove is gonna buy it tomorrow and scan it.
http://splintr.com/thedailysplintr/page/199/DEFTONES-The-Interviews (http://splintr.com/thedailysplintr/page/199/DEFTONES-The-Interviews)
This interview was from 2011 but was only published yesterday, Interesting though in the second part Stephen says he wants Eros out the sooner better but it's up to Chino.
Interview at EDGE fest:
http://edgefest.kdge.com/player/?mid=23156881 (http://edgefest.kdge.com/player/?mid=23156881)
Quote from: slyartwork on May 01, 2013, 08:06 PM
Interview at EDGE fest:
http://edgefest.kdge.com/player/?mid=23156881 (http://edgefest.kdge.com/player/?mid=23156881)
It must be tough going back into the swing of things so soon after Chi's passing.
Kerrang issue no 1464
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If you recognise the cover.... October 2000.
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Thanks for the scans!
Deftones Interview with Lux (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2U8soPI_dY#ws)
You cannot actually hear it in their voices, but you can see it on their faces. Man it sucks to see them like that.
By the way, the 5.30-5.40 footage would make a perfect Swerve video.
Huh. I always wondered why the lyrics in the songs were different than the ones printed in the booklet. Simple human error/miscommunication.
Deftones on Kris Kross "Jump" Cover & Future Music Videos - Beale Street Music Festival 2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbiDY8OBvRA#ws)
http://youtu.be/pCg3A6le84I (http://youtu.be/pCg3A6le84I)
don`t know if this got posted.not new but cool
http://youtu.be/4PFIFPD4uVk (http://youtu.be/4PFIFPD4uVk)
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on May 06, 2013, 12:06 AM
Deftones on Kris Kross "Jump" Cover & Future Music Videos - Beale Street Music Festival 2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbiDY8OBvRA#ws)
"... there is no The in Deftones"
Quote from: Adekhine on May 06, 2013, 09:13 PM
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on May 06, 2013, 12:06 AM
Deftones on Kris Kross "Jump" Cover & Future Music Videos - Beale Street Music Festival 2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbiDY8OBvRA#ws)
"... there is no The in Deftones"
Loved that part too xD especially since there was a huge war once where they were complainting that its the deftones and not deftones .. dumbasses xD
Deftones on Exclaim! Aggressive Tendencies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MBqCtyPp3A#ws)
Don't know if this was ever posted:
http://issuu.com/noheroes/docs/issue_20 (http://issuu.com/noheroes/docs/issue_20)
That was a very touching article. Good info too.
AMH TV Presents: Interview with Deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bnd1rMrg9A#ws)
Does anyone have any extra info on this?
HR (from Bad Brains) documentary "Finding Joseph I" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHeT_97yRyY#ws)
It seems like Chino has a good bit of insight on it.
Chino is asked again about the release of Eros, and more:
http://splintr.com/thedailysplintr/page/214/EXCLUSIVE-INTERVIEW-Chino-Moreno-Talks-To-Francis-Brew (http://splintr.com/thedailysplintr/page/214/EXCLUSIVE-INTERVIEW-Chino-Moreno-Talks-To-Francis-Brew)
Good stuff, thanks.
It would be cool if they released it as a 6-song record, just to preserve what was done at the time.
I'd be happy either way but it sounds like they plan on finishing it which to me makes more sense, It should be released how it was intended to be released as one cohesive body of work, I know peoples main concern is whether or not Chino can do the rest of the songs justice but I have faith in him to pull it off he's a great musician I don't even think he has lyrics to write so it'd just be the recording to do and I think he's capable of singing the remaining songs appropriately. But even if they did release just the complete i'd be happy.
Quote from: Hank on May 18, 2013, 06:46 AM
Does anyone have any extra info on this?
HR (from Bad Brains) documentary "Finding Joseph I" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHeT_97yRyY#ws)
It seems like Chino has a good bit of insight on it.
I've been waiting for this for a long time. The bad brains influenced everyone, even those who don't admit it. Deftones are the biggest heir to their throne. Madonna signed them both at the same time and they both released record in 1995 and bad brains let them open up for them. think about being Chino, here is his favorite singer and now he just scored a record deal and gets to open for him. that's amazing. / real Reggae music is my favorite music, and H.R.'s solo stuff set me on the path, I love it all, more then the brains.
eros is years and years away. I still have doubts we will ever hear it.
Quote from: normsteez on May 20, 2013, 01:31 AM
eros is months away. I still have expectations it will be great.
Quote from: SwerveCityUSA on May 20, 2013, 01:56 AM
Quote from: normsteez on May 20, 2013, 01:31 AM
eros is months away. I still have expectations it will be great.
Don't think so Chino said if they did release it they would probably do it after their next new album so i'd go with years
there's no way they would take "years" to release It, you guys are the most pessimistic bunch ever. What would even be the point in that? it's already been years. Might as well say fuck it then. I just saw an interview with Chino today, from a week ago talking about it positively, saying this time more than ever if feels right for the fans to hear it and all that.
Quote from: SwerveCityUSA on May 20, 2013, 03:24 AM
there's no way they would take "years" to release It, you guys are the most pessimistic bunch ever. What would even be the point in that? it's already been years. Might as well say fuck it then. I just saw an interview with Chino today, from a week ago talking about it positively, saying this time more than ever if feels right for the fans to hear it and all that.
lol go the previous page and listen to the splintr interview, in it Chino says if they do release it will most likely after their next new album, we're not being pessimistic we're just repeating what Chino said.
Why lol?
I just found an interview from a week ago where he was optimistic about it being upcoming.
Because in that very same interview he also said most likely after the next album so that's a few years away still
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Quote from: DeftonesNZ on May 20, 2013, 06:07 AM
Because in that very same interview he also said most likely after the next album so that's a few years away still
nope. they've never taken longer then 2 years and 11 months. from white pony to self titled. but in that respect it was what, 3 years and 7 months between SNW and Diamond Eyes, but the only reason we're talking is because of the missing piece that was suppose to be in between that. It's coming out, you don't have to quench sweat, drink some water.
yeah but the record company wouldn't want to simultaneously release two albums so there would a gap in between the new album and Eros, Chances are they would want the band to do a tour specifically promoting each album in order to get the most revenue.
I See where your coming from but no one can really predict politics. I would think in all honesty they would like to get eros finished because it almost is and to put that chapter away. either way, its ok, I have no reason at all to think it wont be out by sometime next year, that's just me I guess.
I'm sure if it was up to the band it would be out very soon but the record company still has alot invested in that record giving that they paid for all the development of it and they'll be looking to get that back, it's sad though I think if it was up to to the guys they would just put it out low key but Warner will probably want them to do the whole new album release thing.
Diamond Eyes was made with the left over money and studio time from Eros. That's why it had to be done so fast. By putting out Diamond Eyes the band delivered the label they were contractually obligated to by the label. Warner got their return for that investment. I may be wrong but I'm fairly certain the Eros recordings are completely in the hands of the band now. Of course the label is going to want a say in things but I think promo (touring, interviews, music videos, etc.) for it would be minimal. Touring on it doesn't seem likely at all. Chino does say he thinks the band will do another album first and that's fine by me but I don't think Eros would be far behind it. They'd tour a new album and all that and probably put Eros out when they get some downtime. Purely speculation but that's my take on things. We'll get it someday but for now I'm happy either way.
Yeah I'm sure Diamond Eyes paid them back but record companies are greedy and they'll try to get money of it anyway, I think it was up to the band they would just put it out without tour and stuff but I'm guessing that under their contract that Warner owns the rights to the music, interesting thought I just remembered in an old interview after Diamond Eyes when asked about Eros Chino said the usual when it's ready thing and Stephen said he thought they should have released both Eros and Diamond Eyes as a double album thing so maybe they might do tha with the next one, I don't really expect much of it to be played live either Chino said it's real emotional just listening to it because it was recorded basically the last time he talked to Chi, performing without him would be heartbreaking.
Funny ;)
Juliya interviews the Deftones at the 2013 Revolver Golden Gods (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM9dCZtr3eI#ws)
Chuck Billy is Stephen's Cousin? :o
Oh, and they're obviously half-drunk, it's funny to see them being happy and messing around. Lol at Chino scratching his nose with the award by the way (3:19 mins)
funniest chino...ever. drunk!
I wish she would leave but just keeping filming the conversation it was way better than the normal interview questions.
I wish she would just take her shirt off... ;D
She should've walked away and left the camera running. It's fun when it's not the typical interview bullshit and Chino had obviously had a few sips.
wrong topic, interview was cool. wish there were more interviews where theyre a bit drunk
At 1:37 is the most awesome thing I've seen in a long long time !
Quote from: Gee on May 22, 2013, 10:10 AM
At 1:37 is the most awesome thing I've seen in a long long time !
You're pathetic
Scuzz Meets Deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFZbzO5MYJo#ws)
That was an awesome interview. Wow.
really good
Awesome interview inded. Really cool seeing them reflecting on each album and the process behind them.
LOL @ Abe on Moana. That was hilarious.
I agree 100% with Chino about SNW. It also seems like Eros isn't his favorite record. Still want to hear it, of course.
Quote from: downtownpony on May 24, 2013, 12:44 AM
Quote from: Gee on May 22, 2013, 10:10 AM
At 1:37 is the most awesome thing I've seen in a long long time !
You're pathetic
What's your problem ?
One of the best interviews I've seen with them, the questions were good so the answers he got were actually honest, compared to normal interviews where they get asked the same stuff over and over and just give the same responses. Also I wonder if that's why the song about Chi on Diamond Eyes is called Risk, could be because they played the Risk board game together all the time while making Eros.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on May 25, 2013, 08:26 AM
Also I wonder if that's why the song about Chi on Diamond Eyes is called Risk, could be because they played the Risk board game together all the time while making Eros.
Yeah I thought of that, the title of the song might also relate to the chorus, the fact he's saying he'll "try" to save his life and that in itself is taking a chance so risking to fail. But that would be definitely Chino's style to name it Risk after the game...I wonder why they actually didn't name any song of the S/T "Dominos" knowing they were claiming having played a lot during the sessions of that record.
Anyway, that was probably one of the best if not the best interview I've seen of them.
Yeah I could actually imagine S/T having a song called "Dominos" , it'd be a super heavy song like WGTB
Nice interview, but nothing new really. A good introduction interview for noobs to catch up though.
Even though it has all been said before, the long term perspective of that interview makes me appreciate Diamond Eyes more; not necessarily in a way that has the music sounding significantly better, but more in a contextual way. I also really appreciate them making the Koi no Yokan is to Diamond Eyes as Around the Fur is to Adrenaline statement, as I think that's the feeling a lot of people have as well. Now it's time for their next dynamic explosion a la White Pony :). **Disclaimer** I do not expect nor want another White Pony, it's just an analogy.
Much respect,
-Matt
Quote from: Jesus2Chino on May 25, 2013, 10:26 AM
I also really appreciate them making the Koi no Yokan is to Diamond Eyes as Around the Fur is to Adrenaline statement, as I think that's the feeling a lot of people have as well. Now it's time for their next dynamic explosion a la White Pony :). **Disclaimer** I do not expect nor want another White Pony, it's just an analogy.
Yeah I liked the fact he said that as well. As for the next record being a creative explosion...who knows !
In the middle of watching the latest interview, but the one before it was cool too, good to see them having fun and not just saying the same things as usual.
Deftones Interview - Carolina Rebellion 2013 - 99.5 The X (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soxAtqP4NqE#ws)
Quote from: pony_01 on May 25, 2013, 08:38 PM
Deftones Interview - Carolina Rebellion 2013 - 99.5 The X (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soxAtqP4NqE#ws)
"Are you just a big fan of girls and horses ?"
Quote from: pony_01 on May 24, 2013, 05:38 PM
Scuzz Meets Deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFZbzO5MYJo#ws)
love the way they describe s/t, exactly as it should be
Scuzz meets Deftones was a fucking great interview indeed !!!
I really wish there were more like that !
Quote from: Penicks on May 27, 2013, 11:48 AM
Quote from: pony_01 on May 24, 2013, 05:38 PM
Scuzz Meets Deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFZbzO5MYJo#ws)
love the way they describe s/t, exactly as it should be
i was kinda dissapoint tho
its my favorite album :(
http://youtu.be/tM-M3di2IS8 (http://youtu.be/tM-M3di2IS8)
http://youtu.be/XHEgBdNLr0Y (http://youtu.be/XHEgBdNLr0Y)
http://splintr.com/thedailysplintr/page/214/EXCLUSIVE-INTERVIEW-Chino-Moreno-Talks-To-Francis-Brew (http://splintr.com/thedailysplintr/page/214/EXCLUSIVE-INTERVIEW-Chino-Moreno-Talks-To-Francis-Brew)
Wow !!! and the Crowd goes Wild !!!
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They put this on facebook , It's beautifully done and it's especially cool that they saw it, this in Bandung btw.
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^ that's awesome.
Quote from: Gee on May 25, 2013, 10:52 PM
Quote from: pony_01 on May 25, 2013, 08:38 PM
Deftones Interview - Carolina Rebellion 2013 - 99.5 The X (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soxAtqP4NqE#ws)
"Are you just a big fan of girls and horses ?"
lol, that was fun, the interviewer looks like seth rogen.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on May 30, 2013, 09:39 AM
They put this on facebook , It's beautifully done and it's especially cool that they saw it, this in Bandung btw.
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That`s Awesome!
Someone else just posted this one aswell, haha Stef looks baked as fuck with the guns out and I'm pretty sure it's Juan on the right with him.
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that is really awesome, nice see the guys happy
Deftones Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xWehRgJ82w#ws)
Deftones Orion 2013 WGRD Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32ABA9iC4Ls#)
WGRD Deftones Orion Fest Interview Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzvdA-bCNf8#)
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Made the mistake of posting this before watching it. It's entirely useless. Skip it.
[V] The Rock Show : ภาพบรรยากศคอนเสิร์ต DEFTONES Live in Bangkok (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0hGniCQV9s#ws)
Quote from: Hank on Jun 28, 2013, 04:51 AM
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Wow, so young...love this shot.
2003 Interview
Deftones Interview 2003 (Rare) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R7L2NXzQZk#)
Cool interview with Chino and Abe plus some backstage footage.
https://vimeo.com/69580869
Quote from: sing blue silver on Jul 03, 2013, 05:08 PM
Cool interview with Chino and Abe plus some backstage footage.
https://vimeo.com/69580869
good interview and footage, wish it had been longer!
is this show ( or certain selections) gonna air on the hourly showcase that they usually put on pBS ?
Quote from: Adekhine on Jul 03, 2013, 11:24 AM
2003 Interview
Deftones Interview 2003 (Rare) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R7L2NXzQZk#)
Daaaamn...Dark Days eh?
This one is cool
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151719620454835&set=a.300940759834.145362.168215099834&type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151719620454835&set=a.300940759834.145362.168215099834&type=1&theater)
Well well well... Swerve City to radio.
http://gameological.com/2013/07/chino-moreno-musician/ (http://gameological.com/2013/07/chino-moreno-musician/)
Chino interview about games / Palms
in the interview of the white pony release at the internet house party, chino say that shit about THPS, man that shit was dope, i still love that game.
Quote from: deftoolsys07 on Jul 12, 2013, 05:48 AM
http://gameological.com/2013/07/chino-moreno-musician/ (http://gameological.com/2013/07/chino-moreno-musician/)
Chino interview about games / Palms
Nice interview. Totally agree with what he says about games. I used to spend most of my week-ends and holidays playing games, then at some point I realized there were just better things to do. I still have respect for a lot of games though.
It's kind of fun to imagine Terry be all father-like and the 'tones begging for more gaming time etc. Reminds me of the footage of the S/T recording sessions where they're smoking pot and playing dominos.
Thought of that aswell a lot of thatfootage was them fucking around and taking the piss out of terry "Terry Date, Terry Date the boy from up in Seattle" and I also remember from White Pony era clip of Chino owning him, Chino points to a whiteboard and says to Terry "you see the final name for the song?" (Korea) and Terry trys to be a smartass and goes "oh that's original" and Chino goes "have you ever heard a song called Korea?." Terry just goes all awkward and embarrassed.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Jul 12, 2013, 10:32 PM
"oh that's original"
that comment is from steph (sitting next to Terry)
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Jul 12, 2013, 10:32 PM
Thought of that aswell a lot of thatfootage was them fucking around and taking the piss out of terry "Terry Date, Terry Date the boy from up in Seattle" and I also remember from White Pony era clip of Chino owning him, Chino points to a whiteboard and says to Terry "you see the final name for the song?" (Korea) and Terry trys to be a smartass and goes "oh that's original" and Chino goes "have you ever heard a song called Korea?." Terry just goes all awkward and embarrassed.
yea chinos face got pretty serious right there lol. was terry try to get off the cameraman in the beginning of that scene?
Deftones - Backstage & pre-show footage - Record XChange - August 10th, 1996 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9S8XyQxy4Q#)
Romain just uploaded this old backstage video from 1996.
I thought Ves quit posting videos?
Quote from: iceache on Jul 15, 2013, 04:45 PM
I thought Ves quit posting videos?
He had. Started posting again from time to time after Chi's death and then posted that one yesterday for Chi's birthday.
Yeah and only Chi era stuff
Quote from: elite54 on May 22, 2013, 01:16 AM
I wish she would just take her shirt off... ;D
This hehehehee
Interview with Deftones at Amnesia Rockfest, Québec (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUnR1MQLGQ0#ws)
Interview with Deftones at Amnesia Rockfest, Québec
Q and A with Abe Monday in South Africa :)
http://entertainment.iafrica.com/features/873976.html (http://entertainment.iafrica.com/features/873976.html)
http://youtu.be/rFuHpBCvRjY (http://youtu.be/rFuHpBCvRjY)
Chino sheds some light on why they don't play S/T that much.
Quote from: TheRealist on Aug 22, 2013, 12:18 PM
http://youtu.be/rFuHpBCvRjY (http://youtu.be/rFuHpBCvRjY)
Chino sheds some light on why they don't play S/T that much.
I like that beard Sergio's rocking, he now no longer looks like a frog.
interesting interview
Sergio's mustache is hilarious. He looks younger though, I've noticed Sergio often looks pretty old, so that's cool. Interesting interview anyway, I think he already said why they don't play songs often from Saturday Night Wrist or the self-titled album, but it makes sense. It's a shame for the fans who want to hear those darker, more personal songs, but if they're all happier now than they were back then, they'd probably be very disconnected from the songs they're playing anyway.
Reading / Leeds Festival 2013: Deftones - 8 Things You Didn't Know About The Band (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGF-IxX1zUE#)
chino refuse to play Battle Axe :( thats my favorite song
Damnit, Chino! Make up new lyrics to Battle-Axe then! It's an awesome song!
That is probably the most heart-crushing news for me. That is THE song that made me realize that I LOVE Deftones.
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 25, 2013, 08:51 PM
Damnit, Chino! Make up new lyrics to Battle-Axe then! It's an awesome song!
That would be something really special !
yeahhh that hurt to hear..
When Pulled Apart By Horses met Deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLiodKs6kOw#)
Chino. if you dont believe, i think you should. you make me so proud to PLAY BATTLE AXE LIVE DAMMIT!
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Haha he always just talks about it feeling organic or something
No battle axe that is complete bull shit. Its one of my top 3 Deftones songs. Suck it up chino and play that shit. They play 7 words all the time even though he hates it.
Deftones Walk On Stage at Reading Festival 2013 (http://www.youtube.com/embed/PTKf6V_EVvc)
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Aug 29, 2013, 12:54 AM
Haha he always just talks about it feeling organic or something
Well he IS a vegan after all.
Quote from: Capt Snow on Aug 29, 2013, 07:14 PM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Aug 29, 2013, 12:54 AM
Haha he always just talks about it feeling organic or something
Well he IS a vegan after all.
also chi was vegetarian, thats beautiful.
Damn Chino with his optimistic outlook on life.
Chino in the lake, Bozen
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=510872735672231&set=a.510872645672240.1073741829.348940758532097&type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=510872735672231&set=a.510872645672240.1073741829.348940758532097&type=1&theater)
http://noisey.vice.com/blog/chino-moreno-on-palms-unreleased-deftones-material-and-going-into-the-closet (http://noisey.vice.com/blog/chino-moreno-on-palms-unreleased-deftones-material-and-going-into-the-closet)
Chino interview. Mostly about Palms, but touches on his other bands.
MK Ondergrond, Deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTFOKsIctCk#)
WTF??? sorry for the double post...
That's awesome how they've done the art like that it's the best caricature I've seen of him, really like the style it's like he's in a comic book
DEFTONES at Reading Festival 2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXgrfKs-um4#)
That interviewer looks like he could be Abe's brother...
Much respect,
-Matt
Dunlop On The Record: Deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7op9N3zsvxo#)
Quote from: sing blue silver on Sep 30, 2013, 07:47 PM
Dunlop On The Record: Deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7op9N3zsvxo#)
Chino Vs Big mac... Big mac is winning.
Anyway, cool to see these two giving an interview together (pretty rare right ?). Liked the question about the difference of tuning between their guitars. Good question about the music and the lyrics...boring answer.
Interview with Chino and Abe filmed at the backstage of Le Zénith in Paris on September 06th 2013.
The interview start at minutes 09:50.
Enjoy.
http://www.hardforce.fr/metalxs/en (http://www.hardforce.fr/metalxs/en)
gotta love the Chino & Abe interviews, those two never fail to make me laugh
Quote from: Jesus2Chino on Sep 29, 2013, 01:17 AM
That interviewer looks like he could be Abe's brother...
Much respect,
-Matt
That's Colin Doran...singer in Hundred Reasons, The Lucky Nine, did songs with This Is Menace. Great vocalist.
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/deftones_to_kick_off_new_album_work_in_2014.html (http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/deftones_to_kick_off_new_album_work_in_2014.html)
hm???
2 more hours..
Fuck that shit. They still haven't come to Portugal on this tour so put your ass here before you start making the record.
that art comic chino interview was cool.
but that Dunlop shit sucked. I use mxr pedals so that's how I found that interview and it sucked.
http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/dc9/2013/10/deftones_interview.php (http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/dc9/2013/10/deftones_interview.php)
Quote from: vool421 on Oct 20, 2013, 02:08 AM
http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/dc9/2013/10/deftones_interview.php (http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/dc9/2013/10/deftones_interview.php)
"Terry Date was obviously family and we would work with him in a hot second. We will definitely make more records with him again."
That sounds amazing. Would love to hear more records with his production on them. Excited to know they didn't drop him like some people were wondering, the Deftones albums he produced were definitely classic.
Quote from: Dath on Oct 20, 2013, 03:05 AM
Quote from: vool421 on Oct 20, 2013, 02:08 AM
http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/dc9/2013/10/deftones_interview.php (http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/dc9/2013/10/deftones_interview.php)
"Terry Date was obviously family and we would work with him in a hot second. We will definitely make more records with him again."
That sounds amazing. Would love to hear more records with his production on them. Excited to know they didn't drop him like some people were wondering, the Deftones albums he produced were definitely classic.
This is amazing news.
cool
Lux Interviews Deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAg0Q2OLei4#)
Quote from: sing blue silver on Oct 23, 2013, 05:23 PM
Lux Interviews Deftones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAg0Q2OLei4#)
Chino rockin' that organic swag.
Since I'm not technologically skilled, I think someone should make one of those animated gif's of Chino and Abe both putting their heads on their hands at the same time in the Lux interview. I think that would be pretty funny.
Quote from: gloomsquadron on Oct 23, 2013, 08:10 PM
Since I'm not technologically skilled, I think someone should make one of those animated gif's of Chino and Abe both putting their heads on their hands at the same time in the Lux interview. I think that would be pretty funny.
http://yt2gif.com/ (http://yt2gif.com/) just follow the guidelines
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Quote from: pony_01 on Oct 26, 2013, 08:32 PM
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Hehe epic ;)
http://noisecreep.com/most-underrated-deftones-songs/ (http://noisecreep.com/most-underrated-deftones-songs/)
MX is definitely underrated.
Quote from: nicklav on Oct 29, 2013, 05:46 AM
MX is definitely underrated.
MX is amazing, one of the most perfect deftones songs in my opinion. It's a perfect blend of violent and sexual. I wish they would start playing it live again.
Quote from: Raswid on Oct 29, 2013, 05:22 AM
http://noisecreep.com/most-underrated-deftones-songs/ (http://noisecreep.com/most-underrated-deftones-songs/)
this list sucks.
Quote from: endstand on Oct 29, 2013, 10:26 AM
Quote from: Raswid on Oct 29, 2013, 05:22 AM
http://noisecreep.com/most-underrated-deftones-songs/ (http://noisecreep.com/most-underrated-deftones-songs/)
this list sucks.
Ha ha yeah completely. Digital Bath, Feiticeira, Head up, Engine n9 ? Oh yeah, these are underrated...
I was expecting to see songs like Good Morning Beautiful, Battle-Axe, Street Carp, Rapture...Mx is a good example though.
This list is definitely shitty.
Honestly though, they could have put any songs on there and you all would bitch. You're snobs... that's what you do.
Oh, shut up.
Conversation With Stephen & Chino of Deftones: Tortex Picks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM2TPpyFgKw#ws)
Conversation With Stephen & Chino of Deftones : Strings & Tunings (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Ck411_5ZA#ws)
you're late. saw it.
good stuff.
I never thought so, but now I'm like Steph, you gotta play some solos and shit. channel your inner 80's ratt, ozzy influences and just do it. you've been playing for 30 years, anybody could by accident at that point.
actually he has popped out a little lead on some early stuff. ANSWERS from 1992. and here and there live.
Nah I'm glad he chooses not to do that stuff, there's no doubt he could it if he wanted but I hate solo's they don't usually add anything to the song it's just like a bit of self indulgence for the guitarist, it's like the song basically goes on hold so the guitarist can show off. I wouldn't be a fan of Deftones if Stef was like that because one of the things that attracted me to the band in the first place was how Stef,Abe,Chi and Frank never seemed like they were fighting to be louder than each other instead they wrote with really great awareness of what the others were doing and they just complimented each other giving the song a super great atmoshpere. It's sort of like the saying "the sum of the parts is not equal to the whole" meaning it's not what each one of them is doing technically that makes them good it's the way they merge together.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Nov 15, 2013, 07:50 AM
Nah I'm glad he chooses not to do that stuff, there's no doubt he could it if he wanted but I hate solo's they don't usually add anything to the song it's just like a bit of self indulgence for the guitarist, it's like the song basically goes on hold so the guitarist can show off. I wouldn't be a fan of Deftones if Stef was like that because one of the things that attracted me to the band in the first place was how Stef,Abe,Chi and Frank never seemed like they were fighting to be louder than each other instead they wrote with really great awareness of what the others were doing and they just complimented each other giving the song a super great atmoshpere. It's sort of like the saying "the sum of the parts is not equal to the whole" meaning it's not what each one of them is doing technically that makes them good it's the way they merge together.
it's how you execute the solo, though... it's one thing if you can tell it's obviously just been thrown into the song and had already been preconceived that the song would have a solo, you know, like when a band is playing live and they do the cheesy: "and here's dave on guitar!!"
however, there's nothing wrong with having lead guitar, or a solo, if it's done right. if it doesn't feel forced... it has to be natural... and shit, bands like Animals As Leaders... every song is a solo practically, and it's fucking incredible! but then again i guess the focus in that band is the guitar, anyway... and there's obviously plenty of examples... i'm just throwin shit out there... but don't be so narrow minded about guitar solos, man! i agree it doesn't necessarily fit deftones as far as what we've heard thus far, but they could easily pull it off by changing the song structures or just the whole vibe of the song. i would love to hear that, actually...
Honestly, would be interesting, Deftones - Simple Man (Lynyrd Skynyrd Cover) sounds great, one of my favorites songs.
Yeah I like AAL and lot's of post rock instrumental stuff which is basically one big solo and I don't mind it in that context but with deftones I think instead of having solos to mix it up they have those real quiet eriee moments, I really like that style it's nice to sort off slow everything down it makes those heavy breakdowns they have at the end more intense.For instance in Bloody Cape there's that one section where it's basically just Chino whispering and Stef playing lightly and it makes that breakdown afterwards feel so much more brutal, I love how they do that. I'm not fully against solos in a non instrumental context either but I'm pretty picky, Adam Jones style of solos are what I look for, when he plays a solo it really adds to the song but it just seems the majority of the time I listen to songs with solos it feels like song is paused for it and the solo is sort of cut and pasted in. also that's not Stef doing the Simple Man solo
Yeah Adam Jones is not known for predominately using any particular guitar playing technique, but rather combines many techniques such as alternately utilizing power chords, scratchy noise, chiming arpeggios, and a quiet minimalism, who plays the solo on Simple Man? Even if that is not my point what I mean is that combines with the deftones style if they want it, I love the solo on Simple Man like i love the solo on "Deftones - Please, please, please, let me get what I want" and would be interesting hear more in this style.
Yeah the thing with Adam is his solos are based of the other riffs in the songs so he will often play the same frets he was playing powerchords on earlier but on an individual strings and rearranged. Also think it was Joe Fraulob on the Simple Man cover, when ever I hear "please,please,please let me get what I want" I can't help but wish they had covered a different Smiths song, for starters it's really short snd there's just some songs I think would have been better, I would like to hear them cover "How soon is now?". same goes for "if only tonight we could sleep" I think that was a really poor choie there's a ton of Cure songs I think would have been better, would of been cool if they covered pretty much anything from Pornography,Disintengration or 17 seconds. It would have been awesome to hear Chino singing something "The figurehead" or "Fascination Street"
who knows, maybe the next album will have a solo... we got entombed on the last record which was the first deftones song with fingertapping. albeit pretty slow and repetitive, but sonically satisfying nonetheless....
Stef did say he was planning to do a music course to get a better understanding of his instrument because he feels kind of inadaquate so maybe when he has more knowledge of music theory he will feel comfortable with playing solos.
I really think Stephen should do a solo or 2 on their next album(I mean one that's fast/shredding, not easy to play), it's the elephant in the room at this point. needs to happen. they've never had a song with a true solo on any of their albums. they've explored so many sounds & styles, but avoided a solo like the plague. I mean the one thing anyone knows for a fact when they put out a new album is there's not gonna be a solo. I love the band regardless, they're by far my favorite band, but it's time. it would be so unexpected
anyone have a way of "hint hinting" this to them, their twitter or whatever? we should get the word out to Stef or someone in the band that we wanna hear him shred, & get that monkey off his & the band's back. petition fan request
They dont't give a fuck what their fans would like to hear, especially Stef. They're making music just for themselves and if Stef doesn't feel comfortable with playing solos, or thinks they aren't necessary for expanding the band's sound, we won't be hearing one anytime soon
On B-sides and Rarities he said his inly recorded solo was on Please Please Please
Quote from: III on Nov 15, 2013, 07:56 PM
On B-sides and Rarities he said his inly recorded solo was on Please Please Please
There's a solo in Answers.
Deftones- Answers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx75JmBFrvk#)
Anyway, something to this effect has been mentioned already, but it isn't much of an issue whether he decides to solo or not. The most important thing for Deftones is songwriting, not guitar wankery. If Stef can fit a solo into the context of the song, then cool, I'm all for it. But the band has been releasing killer songs for over 20 years without them, so it isn't a big deal if they aren't incorporated.
ive been saying I don't care if he solos since forever. but im not talking about the same old radio solos you guys are thinking about. theres so many more ways to be creative with leads, and I just think it would be cool if he added some spaced out shit, make it sound like another instrument or some shit. chino basically already does it, except very lazily, but its cool.
lol Stef kind of went at Chino in those clips .
Anyone knows where this is from?
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Quote from: slyartwork on Nov 22, 2013, 05:56 AM
Anyone knows where this is from?
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From the Musical Ink book of Jon Blacker
http://www.musical-ink.com/the_artists.html (http://www.musical-ink.com/the_artists.html)
(http://altpickconnects.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/chinomoreno.jpg)
Nice, thanks.
Quote from: sing blue silver on Nov 14, 2013, 06:18 PM
Conversation With Stephen & Chino of Deftones: Tortex Picks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM2TPpyFgKw#ws)
Conversation With Stephen & Chino of Deftones : Strings & Tunings (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Ck411_5ZA#ws)
lol this interview was hilarious .....smoking mirrors woooo ;D
This could be read a few different ways but to me it sounds like Deftones could be recording some cover songs either that or he's talking about the little clips he's been doing
From Sergios Twitter: got to chill w @QuicksandNYC already about to link up w @deftones. cutting covers in the crib. '14 been tite for days. all music
I think it's probably the little clips he's been doing. But hey, if they're recording covers, I won't be complaining.
Quote from: luisch on Nov 22, 2013, 06:10 AM
Quote from: slyartwork on Nov 22, 2013, 05:56 AM
Anyone knows where this is from?
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From the Musical Ink book of Jon Blacker
http://www.musical-ink.com/the_artists.html (http://www.musical-ink.com/the_artists.html)
(http://altpickconnects.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/chinomoreno.jpg)
damn that thing is ugly LOL...
Gonna do some spamming.....
For a variety of deftones info and pictures, check out and like my new facebook dutchdeftones page:
www.facebook.com/dutchdeftones
Check out the timeline for sure. All will be arranged on date. A nice archive....
Sly, respect for the effort!
http://www.3news.co.nz/Deftones-Why-they-love-the-Big-Day-Out/tabid/418/articleID/328912/Default.aspx (http://www.3news.co.nz/Deftones-Why-they-love-the-Big-Day-Out/tabid/418/articleID/328912/Default.aspx)
Yeah I saw that interview I hope they're geniune about doing a headline tour here and not just doing the whole pander to the locals thing some bands do, I've been holding out for a proper Deftones gig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hjlJ_DMhwo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hjlJ_DMhwo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8KE6leIJg8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8KE6leIJg8)
Another BDO interview with Chino and Frank
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcVCI6Xi_Xc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcVCI6Xi_Xc)
A little article Chino wrote about Mogwai:
http://www.theskinny.co.uk/music/features/306931-hero_worship_chino_moreno_salutes_mogwai (http://www.theskinny.co.uk/music/features/306931-hero_worship_chino_moreno_salutes_mogwai)
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/d70d56454f50c2959fdbdaa1bafe271f/tumblr_n0p7vjofgx1rvxx8ro1_1280.jpg)
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What the fuck is Abe doing with a chapka ?
Quote from: Diplo on Feb 09, 2014, 08:21 PM
What the fuck is Abe doing with a chapka ?
Abe is not giving a fuck, that's what hes doing.
Eheh, the dude always makes me laugh.
http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/2014/02/top_10_metal_love_songs.php?page=3 (http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/2014/02/top_10_metal_love_songs.php?page=3)
Quote from: Martin on Feb 13, 2014, 07:45 PM
http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/2014/02/top_10_metal_love_songs.php?page=3 (http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/2014/02/top_10_metal_love_songs.php?page=3)
What a GREAT V-day post! Love me some of these tunes. :) :-*
Chino Moreno Interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZJ2psIXAjw#)
cool radio interview with chino
Awesome. Thanks for sharing.
It makes me lol every time someone probes about the name/symbol "+++" and chino is like "Welp, we just think it looks cool".
It makes me wonder how many of the lyrics that i interpret as being "deep", ended up my my favorite songs because they just sounded cool.
Maybe it's just revealing the "deepness" in us, the listeners.
Maybe it's too early for me to get so heavy...
Happy Monday everyone!
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Check it out the new edition of Kerrang (february, I think) Abe said they will play new songs in Sonisphere. New album early 2015. I dont have scan or something but I read for someone who have the mag.
(http://www.deftones.cl/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/tumblr_n1a1gm0BKq1sotmbao1_1280.jpg)
Quote from: luisch on Feb 21, 2014, 01:17 AM
Check it out the new edition of Kerrang (february, I think) Abe said they will play new songs in Sonisphere. New album early 2015. I dont have scan or something but I read for someone who have the mag.
Man, that's in just over four months. I hope they don't rush this thing too much--it wouldn't hurt to ruminate on some tracks rather than just write, record, print. I'd wager that extra time spent revising structure and adding/editing parts after their initial recordings would benefit the final effort. Can't wait to see what they produce.
Much respect,
-Matt
You're right, man. I'm anxious to hear some new tunes
Quote from: Jesus2Chino on Feb 21, 2014, 08:55 AM
Quote from: luisch on Feb 21, 2014, 01:17 AM
Check it out the new edition of Kerrang (february, I think) Abe said they will play new songs in Sonisphere. New album early 2015. I dont have scan or something but I read for someone who have the mag.
Man, that's in just over four months. I hope they don't rush this thing too much--it wouldn't hurt to ruminate on some tracks rather than just write, record, print. I'd wager that extra time spent revising structure and adding/editing parts after their initial recordings would benefit the final effort. Can't wait to see what they produce.
Much respect,
-Matt
They played Poltergeist many many months before the album dropped.. and long before it had an official name.. so they don't need to do anything if the song is done
Quote from: iceache on Feb 22, 2014, 03:27 AM
They played Poltergeist many many months before the album dropped.. and long before it had an official name.. so they don't need to do anything if the song is done
Didn't mean to say that that would be necessary for them to produce great tracks, just that the album as a whole might benefit from a second look before they press it. Songs like Poltergeist are great, but other tracks, say like Entombed, could have been much better with just a bit more fleshing out. Anywho, no matter what I'm looking forward to the release, and I'm sure it will be quality even if it doesn't adhere to my stylistic preferences from the band. Haha, it also means we have about 4 months until the board starts buzzing again :P.
Much respect,
-Matt
Quote from: Jesus2Chino on Feb 22, 2014, 06:19 AM
Quote from: iceache on Feb 22, 2014, 03:27 AM
They played Poltergeist many many months before the album dropped.. and long before it had an official name.. so they don't need to do anything if the song is done
Didn't mean to say that that would be necessary for them to produce great tracks, just that the album as a whole might benefit from a second look before they press it. Songs like Poltergeist are great, but other tracks, say like Entombed, could have been much better with just a bit more fleshing out. Anywho, no matter what I'm looking forward to the release, and I'm sure it will be quality even if it doesn't adhere to my stylistic preferences from the band. Haha, it also means we have about 4 months until the board starts buzzing again :P.
Much respect,
-Matt
What??? Entombed is easily the best song off of KNY. The only possible thing they could have done more with was the bridge. Usually I'd be pretty bumbed by such a simple break but it worked just about perfectly in the context of that song.
Quote from: luisch on Feb 21, 2014, 01:17 AM
Check it out the new edition of Kerrang (february, I think) Abe said they will play new songs in Sonisphere. New album early 2015. I dont have scan or something but I read for someone who have the mag.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/defsteve/fjsl_zps200e8e82.jpg)
The gap between before and after DE is very huge, the guys seem so happy in their life and that's really good for them but sentences like "being a bunch of grumpy assholes is not much fun" makes me think that all they have done in the past (especially S/T and SNW) is done and they will never return to that.
Anyway, new song in july, that's a good new ! "new things under our belt to surprised you with" yeah, I hope really they do.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Feb 22, 2014, 07:10 AM
What??? Entombed is easily the best song off of KNY. The only possible thing they could have done more with was the bridge. Usually I'd be pretty bumbed by such a simple break but it worked just about perfectly in the context of that song.
Just my opinion--not at all more valid than yours. To me Entombed is a great skeleton of a song, it just needs more structure to make it whole. It's a bit too repetitive and monotonous for me--even a different drum fill each time before the chorus would have helped; that one electronic fill just makes the song too predictable. There's a lot about the song I like, and on my first listen to the album I thought I was going to love it, for the first half of the song--but then the second half was just the first half, haha. The direction they went with the bridge was awesome, but it couldn't really come into itself with just a couple of bars of playtime. Just my thoughts though, definitely to be taken with a grain of salt.
Much respect,
-Matt
Quote from: Romain on Feb 23, 2014, 06:58 AM...
I totally agree--songs like Beware and Rocket Skates were much bigger/heavier when they were first played live. But that could be addressed through editorial means as well. If they sat on it for a couple of months and came back to it, it might have been more apparent to them that the tracks weren't as big as they should be. Haha, on the other hand, they sat on SNW forever and Beware was still a bit downplayed on the record; I suppose no one was very eager to keep working on that album, though (I still really love that song). In the end I'm just spouting BS :P. They'll do it how they do it and I'm sure it will be quality--just gabbing because I'm excited about the prospects of hearing new material and I really want to love the next record, haha.
Much respect,
-Matt
This is a bit confusing.
Didn't Chino said that the band was going on hiatus for the rest of 2014? and now Abe said they are going to play new songs in a couple of months.
Awesome news btw.
Quote from: vool421 on Feb 24, 2014, 09:44 PM
This is a bit confusing.
Didn't Chino said that the band was going on hiatus for the rest of 2014? and now Abe said they are going to play new songs in a couple of months.
Awesome news btw.
read all this shit again.
Quote from: Jesus2Chino on Feb 22, 2014, 07:36 PM
You never know. As much sense as it makes, Rocket Skates sounded better in 2009 when Diamond Eyes was still in the works, for example.
The live debut of beware performed before SNW far eclipsed the finished product, why they decided to add cricket sound effects is still beyond me. Brooding raw atmosphere was replaced with overly polished digitised magic dust and it just lost everything it had going for it. It still works better live to this day!
Deftones - Beware (Live @ Area4 Festival, Germany 21.08.2009) 4/14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p96YEs5ZKQ#ws)
Quote from: wheresmysnare on Feb 25, 2014, 07:17 PM
Quote from: Jesus2Chino on Feb 22, 2014, 07:36 PM
You never know. As much sense as it makes, Rocket Skates sounded better in 2009 when Diamond Eyes was still in the works, for example.
The live debut of beware performed before SNW far eclipsed the finished product, why they decided to add cricket sound effects is still beyond me. Brooding raw atmosphere was replaced with overly polished digitised magic dust and it just lost everything it had going for it. It still works better live to this day!
Deftones - Beware (Live @ Area4 Festival, Germany 21.08.2009) 4/14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p96YEs5ZKQ#ws)
I liked the cricket sounds. I thought they were there from the beginning. Beware was first played live at the San Diego show on Taste of Chaos: Deftones - Beware The Water (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TziusqXQ9Fo#noexternalembed)
Quote from: wheresmysnare on Feb 25, 2014, 07:17 PM
Quote from: Jesus2Chino on Feb 22, 2014, 07:36 PM
You never know. As much sense as it makes, Rocket Skates sounded better in 2009 when Diamond Eyes was still in the works, for example.
The live debut of beware performed before SNW far eclipsed the finished product, why they decided to add cricket sound effects is still beyond me. Brooding raw atmosphere was replaced with overly polished digitised magic dust and it just lost everything it had going for it. It still works better live to this day!
Deftones - Beware (Live @ Area4 Festival, Germany 21.08.2009) 4/14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p96YEs5ZKQ#ws)
BLAM !!!
Man, how i love drunk chino.
Quote from: buddyboy101 on Feb 25, 2014, 07:53 PM
Quote from: wheresmysnare on Feb 25, 2014, 07:17 PM
Quote from: Jesus2Chino on Feb 22, 2014, 07:36 PM
You never know. As much sense as it makes, Rocket Skates sounded better in 2009 when Diamond Eyes was still in the works, for example.
The live debut of beware performed before SNW far eclipsed the finished product, why they decided to add cricket sound effects is still beyond me. Brooding raw atmosphere was replaced with overly polished digitised magic dust and it just lost everything it had going for it. It still works better live to this day!
Deftones - Beware (Live @ Area4 Festival, Germany 21.08.2009) 4/14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p96YEs5ZKQ#ws)
I liked the cricket sounds. I thought they were there from the beginning. Beware was first played live at the San Diego show on Taste of Chaos: Deftones - Beware The Water (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TziusqXQ9Fo#noexternalembed)
I don't like crickets OH NO! I just don't think it was necessary, if they had to add nature sounds they could have used rain sound effects or something under the mix, in fact that would probably work better, what with the song being about water. Good find, I literally haven't heard that since the month it appeared on here originally.
Quote from: wheresmysnare on Feb 26, 2014, 09:41 AM
Quote from: buddyboy101 on Feb 25, 2014, 07:53 PM
Quote from: wheresmysnare on Feb 25, 2014, 07:17 PM
Quote from: Jesus2Chino on Feb 22, 2014, 07:36 PM
You never know. As much sense as it makes, Rocket Skates sounded better in 2009 when Diamond Eyes was still in the works, for example.
The live debut of beware performed before SNW far eclipsed the finished product, why they decided to add cricket sound effects is still beyond me. Brooding raw atmosphere was replaced with overly polished digitised magic dust and it just lost everything it had going for it. It still works better live to this day!
Deftones - Beware (Live @ Area4 Festival, Germany 21.08.2009) 4/14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p96YEs5ZKQ#ws)
I liked the cricket sounds. I thought they were there from the beginning. Beware was first played live at the San Diego show on Taste of Chaos: Deftones - Beware The Water (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TziusqXQ9Fo#noexternalembed)
I don't like crickets OH NO! I just don't think it was necessary, if they had to add nature sounds they could have used rain sound effects or something under the mix, in fact that would probably work better, what with the song being about water. Good find, I literally haven't heard that since the month it appeared on here originally.
what more cliche thant rain sound efeccts?, i think that the crickets are fucking awesome.
Quote from: Jesus2Chino on Feb 21, 2014, 08:55 AM
Quote from: luisch on Feb 21, 2014, 01:17 AM
Check it out the new edition of Kerrang (february, I think) Abe said they will play new songs in Sonisphere. New album early 2015. I dont have scan or something but I read for someone who have the mag.
Man, that's in just over four months. I hope they don't rush this thing too much--it wouldn't hurt to ruminate on some tracks rather than just write, record, print. I'd wager that extra time spent revising structure and adding/editing parts after their initial recordings would benefit the final effort. Can't wait to see what they produce.
Much respect,
-Matt
I don't think it means they're rushing. Well, they might be, but the demo version of Korea, White Pony, was played a good while before the album came out, and as we know, the finished song was a bit different. I don't know, I'm excited regardless :) but reading the interview, it sounds more like a hopeful thing rather than, "Yep, we've already got songs going on," so maybe they won't have anything new by then.
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You never know. As much sense as it makes, Rocket Skates sounded better in 2009 when Diamond Eyes was still in the works, for example.
The live debut of beware performed before SNW far eclipsed the finished product, why they decided to add cricket sound effects is still beyond me. Brooding raw atmosphere was replaced with overly polished digitised magic dust and it just lost everything it had going for it. It still works better live to this day!
Deftones - Beware (Live @ Area4 Festival, Germany 21.08.2009) 4/14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p96YEs5ZKQ#ws)
I liked the cricket sounds. I thought they were there from the beginning. Beware was first played live at the San Diego show on Taste of Chaos: Deftones - Beware The Water (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TziusqXQ9Fo#noexternalembed)
I don't like crickets OH NO! I just don't think it was necessary, if they had to add nature sounds they could have used rain sound effects or something under the mix, in fact that would probably work better, what with the song being about water. Good find, I literally haven't heard that since the month it appeared on here originally.
what more cliche thant rain sound efeccts?
thunder and lightening
Quote from: wheresmysnare on Feb 26, 2014, 10:13 PM
Quote from: cvthedrv on Feb 26, 2014, 02:21 PM
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Quote from: Jesus2Chino on Feb 22, 2014, 07:36 PM
You never know. As much sense as it makes, Rocket Skates sounded better in 2009 when Diamond Eyes was still in the works, for example.
The live debut of beware performed before SNW far eclipsed the finished product, why they decided to add cricket sound effects is still beyond me. Brooding raw atmosphere was replaced with overly polished digitised magic dust and it just lost everything it had going for it. It still works better live to this day!
Deftones - Beware (Live @ Area4 Festival, Germany 21.08.2009) 4/14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p96YEs5ZKQ#ws)
I liked the cricket sounds. I thought they were there from the beginning. Beware was first played live at the San Diego show on Taste of Chaos: Deftones - Beware The Water (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TziusqXQ9Fo#noexternalembed)
I don't like crickets OH NO! I just don't think it was necessary, if they had to add nature sounds they could have used rain sound effects or something under the mix, in fact that would probably work better, what with the song being about water. Good find, I literally haven't heard that since the month it appeared on here originally.
what more cliche thant rain sound efeccts?
thunder and lightening
Personally I like The Doors....
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It has begun...
No Frank, no Chino, hope they start jamming.
Source ?
I hope they will tease us, not like with KNY
The bong next to Vega... ^^
Quote from: Diplo on Feb 28, 2014, 09:23 PM
Source ?
I hope they will tease us, not like with KNY
The bong next to Vega... ^^
Saw it on Instagram
Thanks !
Fuckin' eh!!
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Nice!
Writing has begun :)
Hahahahahahaa Stef's face in the first pic
i think its a good idea to start without chino in the beginning,so steph can be himself
Short clip of them jamming:
https://vine.co/v/Mml1rq71ZzX
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/deftones-begins-writing-new-material/ (http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/deftones-begins-writing-new-material/)
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Mar 04, 2014, 05:30 PM
Short clip of them jamming:
https://vine.co/v/Mml1rq71ZzX
Wow! Sergio is using his Fender VI Custom Bass... I remember watching a pic of that bass when they were recording KNY but I never saw him using it live, I wonder if he actually recorded with that bass at all... or maybe it was just a "new toy" to play around.
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Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Mar 04, 2014, 05:30 PM
Short clip of them jamming:
https://vine.co/v/Mml1rq71ZzX
Wow! Sergio is using his Fender VI Custom Bass... I remember watching a pic of that bass when they were recording KNY but I never saw him using it live, I wonder if he actually recorded with that bass at all... or maybe it was just a "new toy" to play around.
I seem to recall an interview where he said it was used to record 2 or 3 of the songs on KNY. If anyone knows what interview that's from that'd be cool. Maybe I'm just crazy though.
I guess Frank hasn't joined up with them yet.
Neither has Chino, He's slacking off! He just posted this on his twitter
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiE2KvdCEAA6DTA.jpg:large)
Quote from: geraavl08 on Mar 07, 2014, 01:15 AM
Neither has Chino, He's slacking off! He just posted this on his twitter
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiE2KvdCEAA6DTA.jpg:large)
He's on tour with Crosses. Of course he's not writing with Deftones.
Don't hit the trees harder than Sonny Bono!!!! New deftones 2015 -2016???if chino still around?
Guys, does anyone has that bizarre photo of chino with his mum?
trying to show it to a friend so we can LOL a little bit.
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Mar 08, 2014, 05:40 AM
Guys, does anyone has that bizarre photo of chino with his mum?
trying to show it to a friend so we can LOL a little bit.
(http://www.subeimagenes.com/img/45319620-871946.jpg)
Lol!
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Lol that pic is great !
it really isn't
Quote from: Penicks on Mar 16, 2014, 10:51 AM
it really isn't
Yup. The sense of humour of some people around here is just juvenile.
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Quote from: Penicks on Mar 16, 2014, 10:51 AM
it really isn't
Yup. The sense of humour of some people around here is just juvenile.
or maybe you're just bitter.
https://www.facebook.com/dutchdeftones/photos/a.597266023655262.1073741852.594163383965526/624384284276769/?type=1¬if_t=like (https://www.facebook.com/dutchdeftones/photos/a.597266023655262.1073741852.594163383965526/624384284276769/?type=1¬if_t=like)
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https://www.facebook.com/dutchdeftones/photos/a.597266023655262.1073741852.594163383965526/622190497829481/?type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/dutchdeftones/photos/a.597266023655262.1073741852.594163383965526/622190497829481/?type=1&theater)
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Soooo young !
Thanks for sharing all this stuff !
Deftones (Stephen Carpenter) - The Smoke Box (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_86Ca30AJRI#ws)
Steph on the 420 show http://breal.tv/portfolio/dr-greenthumb-show-31314-slaine-stephan-carpenter-deftones/ (http://breal.tv/portfolio/dr-greenthumb-show-31314-slaine-stephan-carpenter-deftones/)
Damn Stef! I thought he was gonna die coughing!
Deftones 3D SPACE Fan club
http://www.virtual3ds.com/deftones (http://www.virtual3ds.com/deftones)
that breal shit is absolutely pathetic
The "interview" was alright, I just don't get why they had to smoke this ridiculously huge joint. I don't know, it just makes it kind of of childish and stupid to me
Yes it's childish but after all it's a smoke box isn't it ?
I was expecting that Steph jumps out of the car to spit his lungs ^^".
God Steph's cough is fucking disgusting and he just keeps talking like it's nothing. Get that man a glass of water or something! You'd think if the interview was in this closed space smoking an unnecessarily large joint, they'd have something to drink there for exactly this situation.
I couldn't stop laughing during that.
Quote from: Penicks on Mar 20, 2014, 02:40 PM
that breal shit is absolutely pathetic
2 guys known for smoking enormous amounts of weed, on a segment about smoking weed... how is that pathetic? They knew what they were getting into.. as did everyone watching.
they're sharing the joint, so of course its a big one. I'm sure either of these guys could easily smoke a j like this on their own if they wanted to, like any person who is conditioned to smoking a lot
Listening to them talk about weed makes me realize how little I know about it. And I'm from Colorado lol
Quote from: iceache on Mar 20, 2014, 09:11 PM
Quote from: Penicks on Mar 20, 2014, 02:40 PM
that breal shit is absolutely pathetic
2 guys known for smoking enormous amounts of weed, on a segment about smoking weed... how is that pathetic?
because they're not sixteen years old
Quote from: iceache on Mar 20, 2014, 09:11 PM
Quote from: Penicks on Mar 20, 2014, 02:40 PM
that breal shit is absolutely pathetic
2 guys known for smoking enormous amounts of weed, on a segment about smoking weed... how is that pathetic? They knew what they were getting into.. as did everyone watching.
Exactly. This is Steph and B-Real we're talking about. Were you expecting them to talk over tea and crumpets instead? Why does it bother you that they are smoking weed? Does that offend you or something? Who cares what they are doing?
Steff being himself,weed never killed anyone!!
weed culture is the worst
Quote from: Northcal on Mar 21, 2014, 05:52 AM
Steff being himself,weed never killed anyone!!
Of course there are proven deaths due to the consumption of cannabis (heart failure and poisoning)
Not as much then alcohol or other drugs, but besides of that, too much weed makes you dumb and apathetic.
It's funny to smoke from time to time with some friends, but if you do it daily and alone for yourself, you're pretty fucked up.
Quote from: Penicks on Mar 20, 2014, 11:53 PM
Quote from: iceache on Mar 20, 2014, 09:11 PM
Quote from: Penicks on Mar 20, 2014, 02:40 PM
that breal shit is absolutely pathetic
2 guys known for smoking enormous amounts of weed, on a segment about smoking weed... how is that pathetic?
because they're not sixteen years old
Who said you had to be 16 years old to smoke weed?
common sense
you probably don't know this because you smoke weed
Guess what? All that weed Steph smokes helped him write all the great riffs from Deftones songs you love. Jus' sayin'.
I would not be so categorical about this topics.
Smoking weed is not my things but it's one of the easiest drugs, really it's not so hurting. The problem is that with the time you become a vegetable...
Quote from: Inkblades on Mar 21, 2014, 06:26 PM
Guess what? All that weed Steph smokes helped him write all the great riffs from Deftones songs you love. Jus' sayin'.
I don't think this is true, in some kind of way this can help to found the inspiration but if you look more attentively the riffs from Adrenaline to SNW were far more great or original than DE or KNY. And I think the consumption of weed still really high.
(Don't get me wrong, I think KNY really shows the musical improvement of the band but in terms of riff, it's not so exceptionnal)
I'm blown away by the board's response to seeing Stephen smoke up! I think it's common knowledge that the Deftones enjoy la ganja, as do many of their fans. Weed has been a part of the creative process for years. Other things have come and gone, but weed is a mainstay. I'm not saying it's the basis for their creativity, but it is an element.
Of course people are letting their own political beliefs bleed into this, but it's my opinion that weed is no worse (but possibly better) for you than alcohol. But because so much of American history is bound up in booze, it's given a hall pass while weed is casted as this blight on society. And folks it's not the weed causing the cough, it's the tobacco.
I enjoy alcohol quite a bit and still I think the video would have been just as stupid, if they got shit drunk instead of high from weed. To me it's not about the weed itself, but about the ridiculousness of the whole situation. Sitting in a fancy car, smoking weed and talking about trivial stuff with a douchey hip hop slang is just not as cool as this B-Real guy hopes it is...
i dont care about that giant joint, the thing is that i really love how stef is completely diferent of chino, he really knows how to express himself, tell deeply about the stuff he used to listened to.
I don't want start a discussion over this, because it is kind of cliché. I am not a pot smoker. However, I do not hate anyone who is, nobody ever died from smoking a joint.
According to one frequently cited study, a marijuana smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times the amount of THC in a joint in order to be at risk of dying.
I think alcohol is worse and should be outlawed over pot. The pot actually does have some medical uses and I think everybody knows it. If not, look it up.
The only thing that sounds childish, stupid and pathetic to me. It is bitching about two friends because they are smoking a big joint while doing a friendly interview on the segment "smoke box", seriously!
I'd be more worried about the alcohol, for example, drinking can lead to alcoholic liver disease, which can progress to fibrosis of the liver, which in turn can potentially lead to liver cancer.
But while early studies showed some evidence linking marijuana to lung cancer, subsequent studies have debunked that association. Baler said it's unclear why marijuana smoke does not have the same result as tobacco smoke on the lungs, but perhaps some beneficial compounds in the marijuana smoke cancel out the ill effects, or perhaps the other health habits of marijuana smokers are different from those of cigarette smokers. Sounds like you have a personal vendetta.
And get your facts straight if you are going to be mean spirited. Micheal Phelps has 22 gold medals. The Olympic Committee was unable to produce any evidence that Cannabis is in fact a performance enhancing drug, but was also unable to prove that it hindered his performance. We are in sharing lungs watching an interview of Stephen, not the dumb katy perry or other shitty artist as lil wayne.
Chino singing RX Queen at Crosses afterparty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoiDio_EMX8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoiDio_EMX8)
Quote from: Lilith on Mar 22, 2014, 03:20 AM
I don't want start a discussion over this, because it is kind of cliché. I am not a pot smoker. However, I do not hate anyone who is, nobody ever died from smoking a joint.
According to one frequently cited study, a marijuana smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times the amount of THC in a joint in order to be at risk of dying.
I think alcohol is worse and should be outlawed over pot. The pot actually does have some medical uses and I think everybody knows it. If not, look it up.
The only thing that sounds childish, stupid and pathetic to me. It is bitching about two friends because they are smoking a big joint while doing a friendly interview on the segment "smoke box", seriously!
I'd be more worried about the alcohol, for example, drinking can lead to alcoholic liver disease, which can progress to fibrosis of the liver, which in turn can potentially lead to liver cancer.
But while early studies showed some evidence linking marijuana to lung cancer, subsequent studies have debunked that association. Baler said it's unclear why marijuana smoke does not have the same result as tobacco smoke on the lungs, but perhaps some beneficial compounds in the marijuana smoke cancel out the ill effects, or perhaps the other health habits of marijuana smokers are different from those of cigarette smokers. Sounds like you have a personal vendetta.
And get your facts straight if you are going to be mean spirited. Micheal Phelps has 22 gold medals. The Olympic Committee was unable to produce any evidence that Cannabis is in fact a performance enhancing drug, but was also unable to prove that it hindered his performance. We are in sharing lungs watching an interview of Stephen, not the dumb katy perry or other shitty artist as lil wayne.
thank you,I rest my case
Quote from: digital bath on Mar 21, 2014, 02:24 PM
Of course there are proven deaths due to the consumption of cannabis (heart failure and poisoning)
Not as much then alcohol or other drugs, but besides of that, too much weed makes you dumb and apathetic.
It's funny to smoke from time to time with some friends, but if you do it daily and alone for yourself, you're pretty fucked up.
Yes I also heard about those two guys who supposedly died from weed since the year 2001..
This has most likely to do with tobacco in the joint, as Heart failure can be caused by smoking cigarettes. The only poisoning there could be is when theres extenders in the weed, hairspray or something like that.
I know people who fucked up their relationships, studies or careers because of smoking too much weed, getting isolated and distancing themselves from friends and relatives. But that is not the standard case. To me a daily joint is no worse than a daily glass of wine.
Good post by Lilith btw!
Quote from: cvthedrv on Mar 10, 2014, 10:21 AM
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Mar 08, 2014, 05:40 AM
Guys, does anyone has that bizarre photo of chino with his mum?
trying to show it to a friend so we can LOL a little bit.
(http://www.subeimagenes.com/img/45319620-871946.jpg)
HAHAHAH, that's it, thank you very much! It might be bizarrest picture in rock n roll history
@ black coffee, Yeah, also if anyone choose to drink 3 bottles of vodka or whiskey per day,for example, it's pretty obvious that he will get fucked up and turn into an alcoholic. Also it's pretty obvious if you choose shoot yourself in the head, probably, you will die... You can find people who fucked up their relationships, studies or careers because of alcohol, or because of bad companies, or because of some boyfriend/girlfriend, because of some dead, etc.. you can find examples of everything. Anyway, you can see the real idiots here, the ignorance in some posts here by some pseudo knows it all in life, it is pretty clear about that. They condemn Stephen for smoke an inoffensive joint in one interview, when we all know that Stephen is known for smoke a lot, and have the possibility for that and thankfully keep put out real music for us, as people who keep constantly mocking about the weight of Chino with this childish pictures, but we all know that Chino still have a lot of talent, in these days.
who the fuck is talking about death tolls
i think it's crazy that something as dangerous as alcohol is so overly consumed by everyone in the world. if a bill passed that would make alcohol illegal, i'd have no problem with it whatsoever, and alcohol is the only drug i consume nowadays
weed however is 100% the most underrated drug in history. not kidding. it is without a shadow of a doubt a silent assassin, a bug that very methodically and slowly creeps into your head and feasts on the part of your brain that controls your everyday life and it will make sure that you need it, that you crave for it, in as much situations as possible, no matter the level of casualness
people who smoke weed every day, even if it's one joint in the evening, are complete idiots
that breal dude, who indulges in 'weed culture', is a complete idiot
a culture based around a drug is a culture for complete idiots
stop smoking weed right now and enjoy the world in all its glory, its dullness, its reality and its clarity
people who cannot control their substance use are idiots
I don't think it's a case of regular weed usage creating laziness I think it's more that lazy people are more likely to spend all day smoking weed anyway, most of the stoners I know have that personality that if that weren't sitting around smoking weed they would be drinking or doing some other drug, Steph isn't a normal guy though his career is music a industry that drugs has always been tied in with it's not like he's getting high and just hanging around the house all day he gets high and then does his craft you can't compare that to a regular drug user sitting at home wasting their life away.
Since you overuse the word idiot for pretty much no reason, I believe there is more to the story. Like, do you have a sibling or a close friend who ruined his life becaue of weed, did you have a phase in your life in which you couldn't control your consumption and now you're looking back in regret, or what is the matter? There must be a reason why this is getting you so pissed off. Because, the way I see it, someone else smoking a joint doesn't affect you in the slightest.
Penicks be like
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People that use drugs and can maintain a job are cool :-X
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Quote from: Penicks on Mar 23, 2014, 09:07 PM
who the fuck is talking about death tolls
i think it's crazy that something as dangerous as alcohol is so overly consumed by everyone in the world. if a bill passed that would make alcohol illegal, i'd have no problem with it whatsoever, and alcohol is the only drug i consume nowadays
weed however is 100% the most underrated drug in history. not kidding. it is without a shadow of a doubt a silent assassin, a bug that very methodically and slowly creeps into your head and feasts on the part of your brain that controls your everyday life and it will make sure that you need it, that you crave for it, in as much situations as possible, no matter the level of casualness
people who smoke weed every day, even if it's one joint in the evening, are complete idiots
that breal dude, who indulges in 'weed culture', is a complete idiot
a culture based around a drug is a culture for complete idiots
stop smoking weed right now and enjoy the world in all its glory, its dullness, its reality and its clarity
people who cannot control their substance use are idiots
You're an idiot and have no fucking idea what you're talking about.
I smoke weed all muthafucking day ,yeeeeeeee sum best shit in Cali!! Sonoma coma,girl scout cookies,3✖crazy,sherbet,well u get the picture!!! I luv that shit ,if u live in California you know wat I'm taking about!!
Penicks you are always a pretentious crabby douche with sand in your vag when it comes to any post on this forum. No one is forcing you to smoke weed, so why give a long elaborate statement on how all weed smokers are idiots. There are some who become complete wastes on it, however there are some who can be responsible with it and not let it control their lives and maintain their responsibilities in life. Stephen is a prime example of this. I spoke to Stephen back in 2012 and I asked him why he smokes and how often he does.. And He confirmed that he does not do it all day, he smokes at the end of the day when he gets all his stuff done. However, when he's in the studio he said he smokes mad amounts, because it helps him keep focused and think deeply on what he's currently doing, because when he's sober he's got all kinds of shit going on in his head and he cant keep focused on the long session hours, so smoking some bud helps him alter his mood and keep going for longer.
Quote from: deftoner664 on Mar 24, 2014, 06:10 AM
Penicks you are always a pretentious crabby douche with sand in your vag when it comes to any post on this forum. No one is forcing you to smoke weed, so why give a long elaborate statement on how all weed smokers are idiots. There are some who become complete wastes on it, however there are some who can be responsible with it and not let it control their lives and maintain their responsibilities in life. Stephen is a prime example of this. I spoke to Stephen back in 2012 and I asked him why he smokes and how often he does.. And He confirmed that he does not do it all day, he smokes at the end of the day when he gets all his stuff done. However, when he's in the studio he said he smokes mad amounts, because it helps him keep focused and think deeply on what he's currently doing, because when he's sober he's got all kinds of shit going on in his head and he cant keep focused on the long session hours, so smoking some bud helps him alter his mood and keep going for longer.
And that's exactly how DE was born!
Quote from: deftoner664 on Mar 24, 2014, 06:10 AM
Penicks you are always a pretentious crabby douche with sand in your vag when it comes to any post on this forum.
Great quote.
Quote from: Northcal on Mar 24, 2014, 05:57 AM
I smoke weed all muthafucking day ,yeeeeeeee sum best shit in Cali!! Sonoma coma,girl scout cookies,3✖crazy,sherbet,well u get the picture!!! I luv that shit ,if u live in California you know wat I'm taking about!!
Okay, so maybe some of you anti-weed people do have a point.
look at all the weed smokers going into defense mode
just chill out guys, smoke some weed and relax
Quote from: Inkblades on Mar 24, 2014, 11:32 PM
Quote from: Northcal on Mar 24, 2014, 05:57 AM
I smoke weed all muthafucking day ,yeeeeeeee sum best shit in Cali!! Sonoma coma,girl scout cookies,3✖crazy,sherbet,well u get the picture!!! I luv that shit ,if u live in California you know wat I'm taking about!!
Okay, so maybe some of you anti-weed people do have a point.
square ass muthafuckas,lol
Quote from: Penicks on Mar 25, 2014, 12:05 AM
look at all the weed smokers going into defense mode
just chill out guys, smoke some weed and relax
ok,just as soon as your mom bends over so I could roll a blunt on her ass!! Yum:o
smoke your herb like you dont care
wtf is this
Quote from: Penicks on Mar 25, 2014, 12:05 AM
look at all the weed smokers going into defense mode
just chill out guys, smoke some weed and relax
I smoke weed pretty regularly but I definitely agree with a lot of your points. Weed "culture" is the fucking worst. And guys, lighten up a little. I always take Penick's posts with a grain of salt and think he's one of the funniest people here.
And maybe go easy on Northcal too. I genuinely think he has a learning disability or something.
Ziya-po ya-ya, pa-pa-ya-pa! Ti-da-lee, na po-po pu-du-loo! Ste-na-peh na-na po po-ro po!
All of the above makes perfect sense when smoking weed. This is why it is both fun but completely useless if you have bills to pay.
Deftones (Stephen Carpenter) part 2 - The Smoke Box (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9UXL66FgzA#ws)
Quote from: Penicks on Mar 25, 2014, 12:05 AM
look at all the weed smokers going into defense mode
just chill out guys, smoke some weed and relax
Well you called people idiots for smoking weed, and when this backfired at you, you just puss out. Also I asked you why you hate weed so much and if theres a bigger story to it, and you didn't bother to give a response. So who is the one who actually went into defensive mode here?
This thread has been derailed. Mods maybe diver the weed debate to a new thread?
Quote from: sing blue silver on Mar 25, 2014, 08:44 PM
Quote from: Penicks on Mar 25, 2014, 12:05 AM
look at all the weed smokers going into defense mode
just chill out guys, smoke some weed and relax
I smoke weed pretty regularly but I definitely agree with a lot of your points. Weed "culture" is the fucking worst. And guys, lighten up a little. I always take Penick's posts with a grain of salt and think he's one of the funniest people here.
And maybe go easy on Northcal too. I genuinely think he has a learning disability or something.
Lol what?? Northcal smoke too much weed. It is obvious. I think you should review your analysis. Northcal just say some strange things, sometimes, because of too much weed. And yeah, people should go easy on him. However, Northcal control yourself a little man.
Sing Blue Silver, We are only responding to penicks the same exact way that he speak to us, If you take Penicks posts with a grain of salt, you should consider do the same with my comments and the other users answering to him. We are just responding to his claims. It is obvious that penicks had some problem in his past with weed. I definitely agree with a lot of his points.
Yeah, weed it is an underrated drug, etc. However, it is an illegal substance. And marijuana is far safer than alcohol. If you really believe that an illegal drug like weed, it is worst than a legal drug as alcohol. WTF!!! Alcohol abuse kills 2.5 million people worldwide each year.
The green stuff has led to exactly zero recorded deaths. Ever!!! Just do a little research. Weed is far safer than alcohol. Why call everybody that smokes weed idiots, because of one interview. And cmon Weed "culture" is the fucking worst! WTF ( I will not even talk about hard drugs) I will just say over alcohol (a legal drug). It is nonsense. This whole conversation it is excused. This is just as stupid as if Stef was drinking a glass of wine and Penicks would come and say: each person who drinks one glass of wine for day, it is an idiot. lol, as you can see nobody are talking about what was said by Stef. We are just talking about weed and that Breal is a douche. Because Penicks says as fact, weed is the worst culture ever lol and everybody it is an idiot if smokes a joint lol. cmon what were you expecting. Common Sense.
I came here hoping for a new picture, interview, or magazine scan.
Quote from: pinkmaggit69 on Mar 26, 2014, 03:55 AM
I came here hoping for a new picture, interview, or magazine scan.
weed wars,brah 8)
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/uponsun/2014/03/chino-moreno-interview-crosses-deftones-crescent-ballroom-phoenix.php (http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/uponsun/2014/03/chino-moreno-interview-crosses-deftones-crescent-ballroom-phoenix.php)
Chino Moreno on ††† (Crosses), Cult Movies, the Supernatural and Creating New Deftones Songs
https://www.facebook.com/dutchdeftones/photos/a.597266023655262.1073741852.594163383965526/626760947372436/?type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/dutchdeftones/photos/a.597266023655262.1073741852.594163383965526/626760947372436/?type=1&theater)
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Deftones + Far = Crosses at Ace of Spades
By Chris Macias
cmacias@sacbee.com
Published: Thursday, Apr. 3, 2014 - 10:00 am
Deftones frontman Chino Moreno's latest musical endeavor started as a homespun project among friends, but has since blossomed into a hit on the alternative rock scene.
The band, called Crosses (with its official moniker signified by three cross symbols) features Moreno, with Shaun Lopez of Far, resulting in a mini super-group of two Sacramento natives. Bassist Chuck Doom rounds out Crosses, which was showcased recently as a musical guest on "Jimmy Kimmel Live!"
Crosses self-released two EPs of music before its full-length album emerged in February via Sumerian Records. That self-titled album debuted at No. 4 on Billboard's alternative album chart and spawned the single "the epilogue." That's all translated into two sold-out shows in New York City, an upcoming slot at the Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival and a well-received tour that reaches Ace of Spades on Saturday.
Crosses ranks as Moreno's most successful project outside Sacramento's Grammy-winning Deftones. In between albums of Deftones' ethereal heavy metal, Moreno has launched such mellower side projects as Palms and Team Sleep (featuring longtime friends Todd Wilkinson and D.J. Crook, as well as drummer Zach Hill of Death Grips and Hella).
Crosses mines Moreno's longtime love of brooding new wave music and electronic influences, and it's a sound that's reaped unexpected success.
"It's funny because at the end of last year I thought I'd have most of this year off," said Moreno, by phone from a tour stop in Phoenix. "But it's pretty awesome. We're having fun."
Here's what Moreno had to say about Crosses, plus the latest from the Deftones.
What kind of expectations do you have for a project like Crosses? Do you look at it as just a fun musical outlet, or do you hope to blow it up in the biggest way?
I try not to make any expectations around musical stuff. Obviously, I appreciate it when good stuff happens and I'm proud of the record. When it was all done and put together, I heard it in a new light. At first there was no label behind us and now we've got some marketing and touring. We want as many people to hear this as possible. That's where we're at now.
What's your mindset when performing with Crosses? Deftones' music can be very aggressive, but this is much mellower.
Honestly, I don't approach anything differently. It's me reacting to the way the music's presented to me. I grew up listening to a lot of new wave music, even with Deftones, and with these specific tracks it's a little easier for those influences to come out since it's not such a guitar-driven project. So how does a kid from south Sac discover new wave in the first place?
When I was in fifth grade my older sister bought me two cassettes and put them in my Christmas stocking. One was the Thompson Twins and the other was Depeche Mode's "Speak and Spell." That record totally changed my life. Until then I was into break-dancing and early hip-hop music and freestyle, like Afrika Bambaataa and Debbie Deb. I thought, "Wow, they're using the same drum machines as the hip-hop guys, but there's this great melody, this dark melody and lyricism." At a young age I completely latched on.
I remember seeing Deftones early on at the Guild Theatre and you had more of a skater haircut with long bangs. You didn't look like a metal guy at all.
I didn't really know too much about metal until I got in the band. (Drummer Abe Cunningham) turned me on to some things in junior high and Dominic (Garcia, the original Deftones bassist) got me into Metallica. But I was definitely the oddball when I came into the band, like, what am I supposed to do? I figured out my own way, I guess.[/b]
You recently moved to Oregon after a few years of living in Southern California. How much do you get to Sacramento these days?
All my family is still there – my mom and dad, and tons of friends. I try and get there whenever I can and I'm pretty stoked to get there (on Saturday). I've also been talking a lot to Todd of Team Sleep and Zach Hill about making some music again.
You go way back with Shaun Lopez, and Deftones and Far were kindred sorts of bands in Sacramento. How is the dynamic of working with him in your own band?
Although we are great friends, and we do have a lot of music in common, we don't always see eye to eye. But that's the push and pull that works well. (Deftones guitarist Stephen Carpenter) and I work like that as well. But recording with Shaun is great. At one point we lived near each other and our backyards were literally a fence apart. I would come over to record stuff, or just hang out or whatever. And one time I went over and he just so happened to be working with Chuck (Doom).
At what point does a "side project" become a full fledged band for you? Do you even consider Crosses as a "side project"?
Deftones is always my main focus. I've been doing it the longest and it's definitely a priority. I think of these as projects. It's not like I'm unfulfilled with a need to find another outlet. I look at it as making music with my friends, and I'm blessed that they're great musicians.
Do these side projects ever cause any friction within Deftones?
There's definitely a lot of planning involved but everyone's been supportive and super cool. I'd done those (Crosses) EPs and all that stuff during my downtime. I never said, "I can't do this because I'm doing Crosses." There are times when I need to prioritize but preparation is the most important thing.
Sounds like Deftones have started writing for the next album. How's that been going?
We got together a few weeks ago, and we're all meeting up the week in between the Coachella shows. We'll do some writing and hopefully have enough stuff to get in the studio before the end of the year. We really fell into a great rhythm, like locking ourselves in a room for four to six hours a day. That's the funnest way of making music, whereas we spent so many years making records and it was like pulling teeth. It's sort of like that work ethic from Stephen's garage in south Sac – we just get in a room and start making noise.
What do you see as the long-term future of Crosses?
I hate to put it in that thought process, but as long as the demand is out there, we'll go out and play shows and keep doing it. But do I want to get in a van and sell it to everyone in the U.S.? Not really. But it feels good to be out (on tour).
Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2014/04/03/6290244/deftones-far-crosses-at-ace-of.html#storylink=cpy (http://www.sacbee.com/2014/04/03/6290244/deftones-far-crosses-at-ace-of.html#storylink=cpy)
Some epicness right here :
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Quote from: Diplo on Apr 13, 2014, 08:15 AM
Some epicness right here :
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when is that?
Quote from: cvthedrv on Apr 13, 2014, 03:55 PM
Quote from: Diplo on Apr 13, 2014, 08:15 AM
Some epicness right here :
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when is that?
Looks like 2009 at Paradiso, Amsterdam
Yes, found this in the deftones familia facebook page.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Nz38E925c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Nz38E925c)
New Interview
Yeah i watched that, pretty good interview, interesting to hear it sounds like they have resigned to Warner, I don't know what they count as albums contract wise but I assume B-Sides and other albums minus Eros would mean they had fullfilled the 8 albums of their contract, if they have resigned it's kind of disapointing I thought they would havee thought about doing something on their own like Mogwai,I hope atleast if they have signed with WMG that they keep the music rights. Also i was pissed off at the end of this interview the guy started basically asking what producer they were going to work with for the new album but then went off on a tangent about what a producer actually does, was really hoping to find out whether Terry or Nick was going to do this one, I really want Terry back but i have a feeling it's going to be Nick, I saw somewhere that he had just finished an album so he's available for it.
Quote from: geraavl08 on May 13, 2014, 05:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Nz38E925c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Nz38E925c)
New Interview
Big Mac alert.
Also, some good questions and some really stupid ones ("are you different now than the person you were 20 years ago ?" Take a guess, dude.)
old school interview
Deftones - Interview - Tower Records Sacramento, CA ★ 1997.11.02 ★ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go7JX7MNmJo#)
Quote from: Gee on May 14, 2014, 09:16 PM
Quote from: geraavl08 on May 13, 2014, 05:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Nz38E925c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Nz38E925c)
New Interview
Big Mac alert.
Also, some good questions and some really stupid ones ("are you different now than the person you were 20 years ago ?" Take a guess, dude.)
Chino is definitely looking his age...
Am I the only guy who cringes when they see another guy cross his legs knee over knee? That can't feel good on the nads, geez
why the fuck hasn't anyone asked about 'smile', jesus christ
It feels like it's taboo.
Indeed, would be great if someone asked....
Someone did ask about Smile:
http://noisefull.com/interviews/deftones-chino-moreno
Bad news for Eros hopefuls. :/
That doesn't bother me that much Chino's always been the reluctant sounding one but end of the day theirs 3 other guys that music also belongs to who seem more keen to put it out, Stef especially seems keen to make sure it gets heard because it's Chi's last work, I think it's just hard for them because it adds a finality to the whole situation once eros is out Chi's contributions are all in the past and I think some of the members aren't ready to admit that it's over like that, Stef seems to have a more positive view on it though he seems to see it as like a tribute to Chi's work and he also get our perspectice of wanting to hear his last work, Chino seems to just see heartbreak in that record rather than an oppurtunity to honour Chi in in a really special way I'm sure part of his thing is also what if it's not good enough this is the last thing Chi worked on what if we put it out and people think it's horrible, I think one day we will hear it could be when they call it quits though.
I wonder if he gave that answer just because he's sick of being asked about Eros. Otherwise, he's being quite contradictory to things he's said before.
From letlive's instagram:
http://instagram.com/p/rSnz8NBo-t/ (http://instagram.com/p/rSnz8NBo-t/)
That's Chino, right?
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Aug 05, 2014, 12:00 AM
From letlive's instagram:
http://instagram.com/p/rSnz8NBo-t/ (http://instagram.com/p/rSnz8NBo-t/)
That's Chino, right?
I'd say so. Oh hell yes.
Quote from: ANattyRat on Aug 05, 2014, 01:36 PM
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Aug 05, 2014, 12:00 AM
From letlive's instagram:
http://instagram.com/p/rSnz8NBo-t/ (http://instagram.com/p/rSnz8NBo-t/)
That's Chino, right?
I'd say so. Oh hell yes.
Isn't letlive the band that put out the POS named "Blackest Beautiful"?
Quote from: General Pong Krell on Aug 05, 2014, 06:56 PM
Isn't letlive the band that put out the POS named "Blackest Beautiful"?
Yeah, one of last year's best records, idiot.
Don't worry, that's not Chino, it's this guy. Notice the right earring in the pic.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8509/8424784406_6423f26c43_z.jpg)
Quote from: sooniletugo on Aug 06, 2014, 09:51 AM
Don't worry, that's not Chino, it's this guy. Notice the right earring in the pic.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8509/8424784406_6423f26c43_z.jpg)
Thank the gods, anything but Chino working with corporate slime like letlive.
Quote from: sooniletugo on Aug 06, 2014, 09:51 AM
Don't worry, that's not Chino, it's this guy. Notice the right earring in the pic.
Yeah, kinda figured that it's Jeff and not Chino. Would have been cool and not that unlikely, though.
oh god thank you, what a horrible thing would be a collab between chino and that shitty wanna-be band
Quote from: cvthedrv on Aug 06, 2014, 04:52 PM
oh god thank you, what a horrible thing would be a collab between chino and that shitty wanna-be band
My thoughts exactly, Nosebleed needs to have his ears sorted out.
What's with all the letlive. hate? You guys are insane.
Quote from: ANattyRat on Aug 06, 2014, 05:59 PM
What's with all the letlive. hate? You guys are insane.
shameless gj rip off without the grit
Quote from: buddyboy101 on Aug 06, 2014, 06:25 PM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Aug 06, 2014, 05:59 PM
What's with all the letlive. hate? You guys are insane.
shameless gj rip off without the grit
I love both bands and I think they sound very different. Similarities are only superficial
Yeah! First, songs with the Serj Tankian of System Of A Down (that's so cheesy ), then songs with the pseudo intellectual Maynard James Keenan of Tool, and now would be a collab between chino and that shitty wanna-be band. Haha, similarities are only superficial. Shameless gj rip off. (#sarcasm)
Quote from: Logic on Aug 06, 2014, 10:24 PM
Yeah! First, songs with the Serj Tankian of System Of A Down (that's so cheesy ), then songs with the pseudo intellectual Maynard James Keenan of Tool, and now would be a collab between chino and that shitty wanna-be band. Haha, similarities are only superficial. Shameless gj rip off. (#sarcasm)
U fail (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTc--4jz0GQ)
Quote from: General Pong Krell on Aug 07, 2014, 07:27 AM
Quote from: Logic on Aug 06, 2014, 10:24 PM
Yeah! First, songs with the Serj Tankian of System Of A Down (that's so cheesy ), then songs with the pseudo intellectual Maynard James Keenan of Tool, and now would be a collab between chino and that shitty wanna-be band. Haha, similarities are only superficial. Shameless gj rip off. (#sarcasm)
U fail (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTc--4jz0GQ)
Haha, yeah... You're absolutely right...
lol
Quote from: General Pong Krell on Aug 07, 2014, 07:27 AM
Quote from: Logic on Aug 06, 2014, 10:24 PM
Yeah! First, songs with the Serj Tankian of System Of A Down (that's so cheesy ), then songs with the pseudo intellectual Maynard James Keenan of Tool, and now would be a collab between chino and that shitty wanna-be band. Haha, similarities are only superficial. Shameless gj rip off. (#sarcasm)
U fail (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTc--4jz0GQ)
Don't get me wrong - I don't like letlive at all. But, u fail. I don't know what's more pathetic. Immaturity is the incapacity to use one's intelligence without the perception to realize the sarcasm, or your delusional and totally failed and desperate response attempt. No rational argument will have a rational effect on a man who does not want to adopt a rational attitude. "corporate slime like letlive", "Wanna be band"... Get over yourself !
If you want stop to think a little and be intellectual honest with yourself. One pretentious douchebag, pseudo-true fan of heavy metal or metal would say exactly the same thing about deftones. And, you and the traditional moron cvthedrv, still posting in one forum probably of your favourite band. Which it's associated with one of the most hated genres in music of all time - the "nu metal" scene. Metal it's a united community, and even the majority of the "metalheads" would told you - They don't hate the "nu metal" itself. They hate the fans who refer to it as "true" metal when it clearly isn't, and when the fans act "hardcore". Although they don't stick to the modest and traditional roots of metal. No bad blood.
Quote from: musteatbrains9 on Aug 08, 2014, 02:38 PM
Quote from: General Pong Krell on Aug 07, 2014, 07:27 AM
Quote from: Logic on Aug 06, 2014, 10:24 PM
Yeah! First, songs with the Serj Tankian of System Of A Down (that's so cheesy ), then songs with the pseudo intellectual Maynard James Keenan of Tool, and now would be a collab between chino and that shitty wanna-be band. Haha, similarities are only superficial. Shameless gj rip off. (#sarcasm)
U fail (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTc--4jz0GQ)
Don't get me wrong - I don't like letlive at all. But, u fail. I don't know what's more pathetic. Immaturity is the incapacity to use one's intelligence without the perception to realize the sarcasm, or your delusional and totally failed and desperate response attempt. No rational argument will have a rational effect on a man who does not want to adopt a rational attitude. "corporate slime like letlive", "Wanna be band"... Get over yourself !
If you want stop to think a little and be intellectual honest with yourself. One pretentious douchebag, pseudo-true fan of heavy metal or metal would say exactly the same thing about deftones. And, you and the traditional moron cvthedrv, still posting in one forum probably of your favourite band. Which it's associated with one of the most hated genres in music of all time - the "nu metal" scene. Metal it's a united community, and even the majority of the "metalheads" would told you - They don't hate the "nu metal" itself. They hate the fans who refer to it as "true" metal when it clearly isn't, and when the fans act "hardcore". Although they don't stick to the modest and traditional roots of metal. No bad blood.
they call iron maiden and other bands heavy metal even tho the old deftones was 'heavier' than any iron maiden song ever made (just sayin')
and yes i know that iron maiden are old and influenced a lot of bands bla bla but not deftones
plus.. deftones are not really 'nu metal',they are older than korn
Quote from: teethin on Aug 08, 2014, 03:01 PM
Quote from: musteatbrains9 on Aug 08, 2014, 02:38 PM
Quote from: General Pong Krell on Aug 07, 2014, 07:27 AM
Quote from: Logic on Aug 06, 2014, 10:24 PM
Yeah! First, songs with the Serj Tankian of System Of A Down (that's so cheesy ), then songs with the pseudo intellectual Maynard James Keenan of Tool, and now would be a collab between chino and that shitty wanna-be band. Haha, similarities are only superficial. Shameless gj rip off. (#sarcasm)
U fail (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTc--4jz0GQ)
Don't get me wrong - I don't like letlive at all. But, u fail. I don't know what's more pathetic. Immaturity is the incapacity to use one's intelligence without the perception to realize the sarcasm, or your delusional and totally failed and desperate response attempt. No rational argument will have a rational effect on a man who does not want to adopt a rational attitude. "corporate slime like letlive", "Wanna be band"... Get over yourself !
If you want stop to think a little and be intellectual honest with yourself. One pretentious douchebag, pseudo-true fan of heavy metal or metal would say exactly the same thing about deftones. And, you and the traditional moron cvthedrv, still posting in one forum probably of your favourite band. Which it's associated with one of the most hated genres in music of all time - the "nu metal" scene. Metal it's a united community, and even the majority of the "metalheads" would told you - They don't hate the "nu metal" itself. They hate the fans who refer to it as "true" metal when it clearly isn't, and when the fans act "hardcore". Although they don't stick to the modest and traditional roots of metal. No bad blood.
they call iron maiden and other bands heavy metal even tho the old deftones was 'heavier' than any iron maiden song ever made (just sayin')
and yes i know that iron maiden are old and influenced a lot of bands bla bla but not deftones
plus.. deftones are not really 'nu metal',they are older than korn
And here's another total wanker slithered out from under his stone to amaze us all with his incredible stupidity.
At least you edited your first comment. You are talking rubbish... Read my comment with attention!!!
Quote from: musteatbrains9 on Aug 08, 2014, 03:38 PM
Quote from: teethin on Aug 08, 2014, 03:01 PM
Quote from: musteatbrains9 on Aug 08, 2014, 02:38 PM
Quote from: General Pong Krell on Aug 07, 2014, 07:27 AM
Quote from: Logic on Aug 06, 2014, 10:24 PM
Yeah! First, songs with the Serj Tankian of System Of A Down (that's so cheesy ), then songs with the pseudo intellectual Maynard James Keenan of Tool, and now would be a collab between chino and that shitty wanna-be band. Haha, similarities are only superficial. Shameless gj rip off. (#sarcasm)
U fail (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTc--4jz0GQ)
Don't get me wrong - I don't like letlive at all. But, u fail. I don't know what's more pathetic. Immaturity is the incapacity to use one's intelligence without the perception to realize the sarcasm, or your delusional and totally failed and desperate response attempt. No rational argument will have a rational effect on a man who does not want to adopt a rational attitude. "corporate slime like letlive", "Wanna be band"... Get over yourself !
If you want stop to think a little and be intellectual honest with yourself. One pretentious douchebag, pseudo-true fan of heavy metal or metal would say exactly the same thing about deftones. And, you and the traditional moron cvthedrv, still posting in one forum probably of your favourite band. Which it's associated with one of the most hated genres in music of all time - the "nu metal" scene. Metal it's a united community, and even the majority of the "metalheads" would told you - They don't hate the "nu metal" itself. They hate the fans who refer to it as "true" metal when it clearly isn't, and when the fans act "hardcore". Although they don't stick to the modest and traditional roots of metal. No bad blood.
they call iron maiden and other bands heavy metal even tho the old deftones was 'heavier' than any iron maiden song ever made (just sayin')
and yes i know that iron maiden are old and influenced a lot of bands bla bla but not deftones
plus.. deftones are not really 'nu metal',they are older than korn
And here's another total wanker slithered out from under his stone to amaze us all with his incredible stupidity.
At least you edited your first comment. You are talking rubbish... Read my comment with attention!!!
so this is not about a 'trve metalhead' who considers some bands shitty just because they are not his taste?
and you don't have to start insulting around because i did not, you are not impressing me with your correct grammar and language smarty
what the fuck does this means
http://instagram.com/p/sVTklHleY7/ (http://instagram.com/p/sVTklHleY7/)
im so hype!!!
Says page not found
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Aug 31, 2014, 02:05 AM
Says page not found
it is the stef instagram page, you got to follow him
http://instagram.com/krisikush (http://instagram.com/krisikush)
(http://photos-b.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xfa1/10598549_565017140294521_1374903941_n.jpg)
Quote from: cvthedrv on Aug 31, 2014, 01:50 AM
what the fuck does this means
http://instagram.com/p/sVTklHleY7/ (http://instagram.com/p/sVTklHleY7/)
im so hype!!!
Means they're rehearsing for the shows in a week.
Yeah probably rehearsing but I'd say they would defintely be playing around with some new things aswell, they most likely would have brought some ideas in to show each other, especially if Stef has been working on his rig like I think he said he was planning to, no doubt he would of come up with some riffs whilst playing around.
Maybe yeah, finally ^^
Never seen Chino's guitar before... It's a new or what ?
I was looking at that too, it's quite a weird looking guitar like a cross between les paul and tele body, the controls are weirdly placed aswell and I think it's got single coils. You never know what it could be with Chino he's used loads of different brands and models over the years.
Interesting, but I would love to hear a song without Chino playing guitar.
Quote from: cvthedrv on Aug 31, 2014, 03:26 AM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Aug 31, 2014, 02:05 AM
Says page not found
it is the stef instagram page, you got to follow him
http://instagram.com/krisikush (http://instagram.com/krisikush)
(http://photos-b.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xfa1/10598549_565017140294521_1374903941_n.jpg)
Is a Danelectro '56-U2 Reissue
(http://www.guitarsandeffects.com/2dano.jpg)
Thanks dude, so it's really a new one ?
I wonder if it can add something to their sound or it's just aesthetic.
Day 2 rehearsals
(http://photos-d.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/10601716_1522554374626171_1227552792_n.jpg)
https://twitter.com/deftones (https://twitter.com/deftones)
You can see a sticky note on the right down corner, yes? And are there songs written?
Battle - Battle-axe
HOL - Hole in the earth?
RX - RX Queen
Feit - Feiticeira
Mona - Moana?
I think that says NOL - No Ordinary Love. Good catch though man.
I don't think that means they actually plan on playing them, I mean it would be cool if they did but it's pretty common pratice for musicians to have labels like that on their gear reminding them what presets are what, I'm pretty sure if you could see the rest he would have the other songs and their preset numbers especially because it looks like that unit doesn't allow for preset names like an Axe FX uses, also I like how Abe has a designated an easily accessible beer location.
Yeah looks like what I said found this from a rig rundown Frank did a few years back you can see the whole thing is covered with notes like that
http://www.keyboardmag.com/uploadedImages/keyboardmag/articles/Yamaha_wide_1.jpg (http://www.keyboardmag.com/uploadedImages/keyboardmag/articles/Yamaha_wide_1.jpg)
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Sep 03, 2014, 04:13 AM
also I like how Abe has a designated an easily accessible beer location.
Why are you trying to bury all the fun? ;)
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Sep 03, 2014, 04:21 AM
Yeah looks like what I said found this from a rig rundown Frank did a few years back you can see the whole thing is covered with notes like that
http://www.keyboardmag.com/uploadedImages/keyboardmag/articles/Yamaha_wide_1.jpg (http://www.keyboardmag.com/uploadedImages/keyboardmag/articles/Yamaha_wide_1.jpg)
Quote from: musteatbrains9 on Aug 08, 2014, 02:38 PM
Quote from: General Pong Krell on Aug 07, 2014, 07:27 AM
Quote from: Logic on Aug 06, 2014, 10:24 PM
Yeah! First, songs with the Serj Tankian of System Of A Down (that's so cheesy ), then songs with the pseudo intellectual Maynard James Keenan of Tool, and now would be a collab between chino and that shitty wanna-be band. Haha, similarities are only superficial. Shameless gj rip off. (#sarcasm)
U fail (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTc--4jz0GQ)
Don't get me wrong - I don't like letlive at all. But, u fail. I don't know what's more pathetic. Immaturity is the incapacity to use one's intelligence without the perception to realize the sarcasm, or your delusional and totally failed and desperate response attempt. No rational argument will have a rational effect on a man who does not want to adopt a rational attitude. "corporate slime like letlive", "Wanna be band"... Get over yourself !
If you want stop to think a little and be intellectual honest with yourself. One pretentious douchebag, pseudo-true fan of heavy metal or metal would say exactly the same thing about deftones. And, you and the traditional moron cvthedrv, still posting in one forum probably of your favourite band. Which it's associated with one of the most hated genres in music of all time - the "nu metal" scene. Metal it's a united community, and even the majority of the "metalheads" would told you - They don't hate the "nu metal" itself. They hate the fans who refer to it as "true" metal when it clearly isn't, and when the fans act "hardcore". Although they don't stick to the modest and traditional roots of metal. No bad blood.
That's the most confusing paragraph i've read in a long time
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Quote from: musteatbrains9 on Aug 08, 2014, 02:38 PM
Quote from: General Pong Krell on Aug 07, 2014, 07:27 AM
Quote from: Logic on Aug 06, 2014, 10:24 PM
Yeah! First, songs with the Serj Tankian of System Of A Down (that's so cheesy ), then songs with the pseudo intellectual Maynard James Keenan of Tool, and now would be a collab between chino and that shitty wanna-be band. Haha, similarities are only superficial. Shameless gj rip off. (#sarcasm)
U fail (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTc--4jz0GQ)
Don't get me wrong - I don't like letlive at all. But, u fail. I don't know what's more pathetic. Immaturity is the incapacity to use one's intelligence without the perception to realize the sarcasm, or your delusional and totally failed and desperate response attempt. No rational argument will have a rational effect on a man who does not want to adopt a rational attitude. "corporate slime like letlive", "Wanna be band"... Get over yourself !
If you want stop to think a little and be intellectual honest with yourself. One pretentious douchebag, pseudo-true fan of heavy metal or metal would say exactly the same thing about deftones. And, you and the traditional moron cvthedrv, still posting in one forum probably of your favourite band. Which it's associated with one of the most hated genres in music of all time - the "nu metal" scene. Metal it's a united community, and even the majority of the "metalheads" would told you - They don't hate the "nu metal" itself. They hate the fans who refer to it as "true" metal when it clearly isn't, and when the fans act "hardcore". Although they don't stick to the modest and traditional roots of metal. No bad blood.
That's the most confusing paragraph i've read in a long time
I think he smokes weed...or you.
Quote from: MrVesanique on Sep 03, 2014, 08:24 PM
I wouldn't see them playing Battle-axe, not after what Chino said about it and seeing how long they've been neglecting the S/T for, and like, Moana? No way. I'd love to be wrong though.
What did he say about Battle-axe?
They were thinking of playing it so he looked up the lyrics and he had forgotten how fucked up and dark it was, he said it's just so far away from who he is now it would feel weird singing it because it's just not him anymore and he'd rather not revisit that dark stage
OH MY FREAKING GOD, Everybody!... Just what I found - http://defjef.tripod.com/1990pics.htm (http://defjef.tripod.com/1990pics.htm)
If anybody has or can find the video,... just... would be fucking awesome!
Mabey one of the rarest Deftones videos ever?..
From what I can see there's an interview and a FREAKING LIVE PRO-SHOT PREFORMANCE - O N TV!!!!
Quote from: musteatbrains9 on Aug 08, 2014, 02:38 PM
Don't get me wrong - I don't like letlive at all. But, u fail. I don't know what's more pathetic. Immaturity is the incapacity to use one's intelligence without the perception to realize the sarcasm, or your delusional and totally failed and desperate response attempt. No rational argument will have a rational effect on a man who does not want to adopt a rational attitude. "corporate slime like letlive", "Wanna be band"... Get over yourself !
If you want stop to think a little and be intellectual honest with yourself. One pretentious douchebag, pseudo-true fan of heavy metal or metal would say exactly the same thing about deftones. And, you and the traditional moron cvthedrv, still posting in one forum probably of your favourite band. Which it's associated with one of the most hated genres in music of all time - the "nu metal" scene. Metal it's a united community, and even the majority of the "metalheads" would told you - They don't hate the "nu metal" itself. They hate the fans who refer to it as "true" metal when it clearly isn't, and when the fans act "hardcore". Although they don't stick to the modest and traditional roots of metal. No bad blood.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ-g0BdpbDM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ-g0BdpbDM#ws)
from_musings... Just Click the Link. Before It's Too Late.
http://helloquizzy.okcupid.com/tests/the-are-you-retarded-test3 (http://helloquizzy.okcupid.com/tests/the-are-you-retarded-test3)
Quote from: MrVesanique on Nov 02, 2014, 10:25 PM
Quote from: chi_no on Nov 01, 2014, 05:14 PM
OH MY FREAKING GOD, Everybody!... Just what I found - http://defjef.tripod.com/1990pics.htm (http://defjef.tripod.com/1990pics.htm)
If anybody has or can find the video,... just... would be fucking awesome!
Mabey one of the rarest Deftones videos ever?..
From what I can see there's an interview and a FREAKING LIVE PRO-SHOT PREFORMANCE - O N TV!!!!
I think this came up before, a larger version of those screenshots, but no footage ever surfaced.
Oh, too bad.
I was doind a reasearch on what show that was, but there were no results :((
Quote from: normsteez on Apr 10, 2014, 02:59 PM
Deftones + Far = Crosses at Ace of Spades
By Chris Macias
cmacias@sacbee.com
Published: Thursday, Apr. 3, 2014 - 10:00 am
Deftones frontman Chino Moreno’s latest musical endeavor started as a homespun project among friends, but has since blossomed into a hit on the alternative rock scene.
The band, called Crosses (with its official moniker signified by three cross symbols) features Moreno, with Shaun Lopez of Far, resulting in a mini super-group of two Sacramento natives. Bassist Chuck Doom rounds out Crosses, which was showcased recently as a musical guest on “Jimmy Kimmel Live!”
Crosses self-released two EPs of music before its full-length album emerged in February via Sumerian Records. That self-titled album debuted at No. 4 on Billboard’s alternative album chart and spawned the single “the epilogue.” That’s all translated into two sold-out shows in New York City, an upcoming slot at the Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival and a well-received tour that reaches Ace of Spades on Saturday.
Crosses ranks as Moreno’s most successful project outside Sacramento’s Grammy-winning Deftones. In between albums of Deftones’ ethereal heavy metal, Moreno has launched such mellower side projects as Palms and Team Sleep (featuring longtime friends Todd Wilkinson and D.J. Crook, as well as drummer Zach Hill of Death Grips and Hella).
Crosses mines Moreno’s longtime love of brooding new wave music and electronic influences, and it’s a sound that’s reaped unexpected success.
“It’s funny because at the end of last year I thought I’d have most of this year off,” said Moreno, by phone from a tour stop in Phoenix. “But it’s pretty awesome. We’re having fun.”
Here’s what Moreno had to say about Crosses, plus the latest from the Deftones.
What kind of expectations do you have for a project like Crosses? Do you look at it as just a fun musical outlet, or do you hope to blow it up in the biggest way?
I try not to make any expectations around musical stuff. Obviously, I appreciate it when good stuff happens and I’m proud of the record. When it was all done and put together, I heard it in a new light. At first there was no label behind us and now we’ve got some marketing and touring. We want as many people to hear this as possible. That’s where we’re at now.
What’s your mindset when performing with Crosses? Deftones’ music can be very aggressive, but this is much mellower.
Honestly, I don’t approach anything differently. It’s me reacting to the way the music’s presented to me. I grew up listening to a lot of new wave music, even with Deftones, and with these specific tracks it’s a little easier for those influences to come out since it’s not such a guitar-driven project. So how does a kid from south Sac discover new wave in the first place?
When I was in fifth grade my older sister bought me two cassettes and put them in my Christmas stocking. One was the Thompson Twins and the other was Depeche Mode’s “Speak and Spell.” That record totally changed my life. Until then I was into break-dancing and early hip-hop music and freestyle, like Afrika Bambaataa and Debbie Deb. I thought, “Wow, they’re using the same drum machines as the hip-hop guys, but there’s this great melody, this dark melody and lyricism.” At a young age I completely latched on.
I remember seeing Deftones early on at the Guild Theatre and you had more of a skater haircut with long bangs. You didn’t look like a metal guy at all.
I didn’t really know too much about metal until I got in the band. (Drummer Abe Cunningham) turned me on to some things in junior high and Dominic (Garcia, the original Deftones bassist) got me into Metallica. But I was definitely the oddball when I came into the band, like, what am I supposed to do? I figured out my own way, I guess.[/b]
You recently moved to Oregon after a few years of living in Southern California. How much do you get to Sacramento these days?
All my family is still there – my mom and dad, and tons of friends. I try and get there whenever I can and I’m pretty stoked to get there (on Saturday). I’ve also been talking a lot to Todd of Team Sleep and Zach Hill about making some music again.
You go way back with Shaun Lopez, and Deftones and Far were kindred sorts of bands in Sacramento. How is the dynamic of working with him in your own band?
Although we are great friends, and we do have a lot of music in common, we don’t always see eye to eye. But that’s the push and pull that works well. (Deftones guitarist Stephen Carpenter) and I work like that as well. But recording with Shaun is great. At one point we lived near each other and our backyards were literally a fence apart. I would come over to record stuff, or just hang out or whatever. And one time I went over and he just so happened to be working with Chuck (Doom).
At what point does a “side project” become a full fledged band for you? Do you even consider Crosses as a “side project”?
Deftones is always my main focus. I’ve been doing it the longest and it’s definitely a priority. I think of these as projects. It’s not like I’m unfulfilled with a need to find another outlet. I look at it as making music with my friends, and I’m blessed that they’re great musicians.
Do these side projects ever cause any friction within Deftones?
There’s definitely a lot of planning involved but everyone’s been supportive and super cool. I’d done those (Crosses) EPs and all that stuff during my downtime. I never said, “I can’t do this because I’m doing Crosses.” There are times when I need to prioritize but preparation is the most important thing.
Sounds like Deftones have started writing for the next album. How’s that been going?
We got together a few weeks ago, and we’re all meeting up the week in between the Coachella shows. We’ll do some writing and hopefully have enough stuff to get in the studio before the end of the year. We really fell into a great rhythm, like locking ourselves in a room for four to six hours a day. That’s the funnest way of making music, whereas we spent so many years making records and it was like pulling teeth. It’s sort of like that work ethic from Stephen’s garage in south Sac – we just get in a room and start making noise.
What do you see as the long-term future of Crosses?
I hate to put it in that thought process, but as long as the demand is out there, we’ll go out and play shows and keep doing it. But do I want to get in a van and sell it to everyone in the U.S.? Not really. But it feels good to be out (on tour).
Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2014/04/03/6290244/deftones-far-crosses-at-ace-of.html#storylink=cpy (http://www.sacbee.com/2014/04/03/6290244/deftones-far-crosses-at-ace-of.html#storylink=cpy)
nice
http://prikachi.com/images/175/7769175N.jpg (http://prikachi.com/images/175/7769175N.jpg)
http://prikachi.com/images/178/7769178j.png (http://prikachi.com/images/178/7769178j.png)
Just gonna leave these high quality scans of the Adrenaline vinyl here...
I just noticed in this photo that Chino has a Depeche Mode - Violator tattoo.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BotIVjbIUAANFWP.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/92/Depeche_Mode_-_Violator.png)
Quote from: sooniletugo on Dec 19, 2014, 02:48 AM
I just noticed in this photo that Chino has a Depeche Mode - Violator tattoo.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BotIVjbIUAANFWP.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/92/Depeche_Mode_-_Violator.png)
Nice
Fucking chino is rocking that tat.
By the way, there is any thread about the band's tattoos? I may remember one years and years ago.
Chino is awesome. One of the best singers in existence.
Quote from: Auctus on Jan 06, 2015, 10:10 PM
Chino is awesome. One of the best singers in existence.
Was xdd
Especially around 1995-1999
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Quote from: Auctus on Jan 06, 2015, 10:10 PM
Chino is awesome. One of the best singers in existence.
Was xdd
Especially around 1995-1999
right, now he is just a good writter
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Quote from: chi_no on Jan 07, 2015, 05:57 AM
Quote from: Auctus on Jan 06, 2015, 10:10 PM
Chino is awesome. One of the best singers in existence.
Was xdd
Especially around 1995-1999
right, now he is just a good writter
Chino is unique but he's never been a consistently awesome singer nor a good writer. Altogether Deftones are pretty lazy song writers. They've got a method and they haven't changed it in 20 years.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/deftones-prep-heady-outside-the-box-new-album-20150310 (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/deftones-prep-heady-outside-the-box-new-album-20150310)
16 songs?? whoaw
Didn't find this interview on the board so I thought Id post it. Its from 2007 yet answer some questions about songs not played. Post SNW pre-Eros era:
http://www.deftnz.net/interview_23.html (http://www.deftnz.net/interview_23.html)
METALHEAD.RO
Chino Moreno
05 septembre 2007 (date d'avril 2007 (?))
Hello Chino. First of all, a direct question...there are some rumours that you are already recording new tracks right now, in the middle of touring, do you have any ideas about how the new songs are going to sound?
Yes...I can tell you that we intend to record the new tracks immediately after we came back to America in May. We haven't written anything new so far, but we have many ideas which we look forward to apply to our music and see what comes out. The answer to your question is that we are going to start composing in the next few months.
Which is your favorite songs from your new album, Saturday Night Wrist, to be played live in concerts?
My preferences change from month to month. We enjoy playing the large majority of songs, but if I would have to choose, "Hole in the Earth" and "Beware" would be my favourites.
Which is the reason for not playing the track Kimdracula, from your last album, in all your concerts, one of the favorite song of your fans?
We change sometimes this song with another one, "Mein", which is also appreciated by the public. We try to offer a setlist which should please everybody, so we play tracks from all our albums until now.
Have you consider releasing a sequel of the "B-sides and rarites" album, beacuse you have lot of material that could be included there? Tracks like "Drive" (Cars) or "Jealous Guy" (John Lennon).
Yes, you're right, there are a lot of songs that could be included on such an album. I don't deny the possibility of such a material, but for the moment to be honest we haven't considered it. Maybe in the future we'll offer such a material to our fans.
Are there any songs that you would like to cover in the future?
I'm sure there are, but for the moment I can't think to any of them. I also like to make experiments with new songs.
Many people are asking what is happening with the new DVD, "Entertain me - a documentary about Deftones". Is it going to be released someday?
We decided never to release it in the end. It consisted from some footage made by a friend of ours, who came with us on tour for three weeks, we also made some interviews, but unfortunately our music couldn't be used because of the label copyright. After all, with only some few interviews with the band, we thought it's no longer interesting. When we'll release a DVD, it must be something which makes us proud and content.
You chosed as a new single the track "Mein", but initially you had chosen "Cherry Waves"...
I don't know exactly. I think that's the way it came out. Cherry Waves is a more direct song, a song you know what to expect of, while Mein is more special and interesting to be played live. We also felt the possibility of a more alive videoclip for this song, Mein being more alert.
Which is the concept behind the clip Mein, and why doesn't Serj Tankian from System Of A Down appear in the clip, although he recorded the song with you?
There is no concept behind this clip, the idea was to have fun, not to make an artistic clip. We wanted just to be ourselves and to do what we like the most together with our friends. Serj wasn't present because he is in New Zealand and he's trying to get his residence there. For this reason, he can't leave the country for a while.
How important is a videoclip for a band like you in 2007?
Hmm...A clip is always important because it shows you as a band to the public and it could make you known to some people who didn't know you before seeing it. Our clips are not so well promoted, so we just make a videoclip in order to know it exists. I think Internet is a lot more important if you want to promote a certain band.
Many fans are wondering why haven't you played yet the song "Combat" from your last release or "Fist", an older track which was never promoted live?
We didn't play "Combat" because we can't play it right - we rehearsed it many times but it never came out right. Regarding "Fist", we never felt the need to play it, we never thought it was that important.
What happened with the track "Finger of Death"? It was initially included on the album, but after a while, it dissapeared.
It is a track that didn't turn out right in the end, along with many other which we left behind. Maybe one day we'll record them again and something will come out of them.
Which is the biggest challenge for your band in 2007?
To keep alive the desire for playing. The last thing a musician could want is to be on tour and not enjoying what he does...
You are also a producer. What are you working at right now?
I worked with Will Haven at his last album, that was before I left to go on tour. Shaun Lopez continued my work there. I heard the album is ready and I can't wait to hear it. I also worked with Dead Poetic on their last album, a young and talented band and for me it was a real pleasure to experiment all kind of stuff.
How are things going on with your other band, Team Sleep?
There are already some new tracks recorded, but unfortunately we are all very busy. As soon as we'll finish our business here, we'll reband and maybe a new album will come out in 2008. The new songs are more electro style, and I'm really curious about them.
Is there a chance for a new album in 2008?
I hope so.
A question that will send you back in the past. which is the first song you recorded together as a band?
It was really long time ago, and I think it was a funny song, and quite raw in terms of composition. It was called "The Vegetable Song" and sounded like the band Primus. We were big fans of that band at the time.
What new releases did you listen recently?
To be honest, I can't recall anything in this moment.
If you will release another single, which song will be?
I think Cherry Waves, because I can imagine a more artistic clip for this song, with a lot of visual effects. I would love to have a clip for this song, but I'm not sure about it, all depends of the money we'll receive from our label.
How did you get to play with Ill Nino the song Zombie Eaters from Faith No More?
I'm a friend of the band, and their manager is also a friend of mine, so he asked me to help them and I accepted, all of them are good musicians and it was a pleasure for me to be there.
What are you doing at home besides music?
In my spare time I'm doing stuff also related to music, I do some more beats. In rest, I go to a walk in the park with my kids, you know, the usual things.
Thanks, Chino, for the interview!
I thank you too and we send our regards to our fans from Romania and I hope to see us again soon. Thanks for your support.
Hefe versus Chino Moreno / Deftones
www.bringthenoise.ro (http://www.bringthenoise.ro)
Quote from: snw9 on Apr 02, 2015, 06:10 AM
Didn't find this interview on the board so I thought Id post it.
it has been posted in video format:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWG2zzbejr0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWG2zzbejr0#)]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWG2zzbejr0[/url]
old interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2WNUCkNmY8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2WNUCkNmY8)
Deftones circa 2015.
(https://igcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/11142988_798934590190873_87278826_n.jpg)
Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 06, 2015, 04:37 PM
Deftones circa 2015.
(https://igcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/11142988_798934590190873_87278826_n.jpg)
That pic is 2013, I think, for the M&G at the North America tour. No 2015 for sure.
I'm pretty sure it's from 2011 ;D
Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 06, 2015, 04:37 PM
(https://igcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/11142988_798934590190873_87278826_n.jpg)
This was taken in August 2011 in Atlantic City with a fan (photoshopped out of the picture) and Juan!
(https://41.media.tumblr.com/44f51bf16d21bacd743e652e5e431bb9/tumblr_nmegm5269i1qkvqtso1_1280.jpg)
My bad. The guy who posted the recent studio clip had that picture on his tumblr, so I assumed it was new. He tricked me with photoshop, lolwat?
anyone with a tumblr account is not to be trusted
Also, Abe has short hair in all recent studio pics.
Quote from: Penicks on Apr 07, 2015, 06:43 AM
anyone with a tumblr account is not to be trusted
This is true.
Is Juan their tour manager? He also works with Tool.
Great guy.
He used to be a tech in the WP days but has been the band assistant for years now.
Quote from: MrVesanique on Apr 19, 2015, 07:07 PM
Long interview from 2006, I edited it to keep the questions and answers only. It's cool and quite genuine. Topics and times in the description :
[TV] Deftones talk about "Saturday Night Wrist" - 2006 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMM8rRyDSHU#ws)
Good interview for anyone who wants a general idea of the SNW period which intrigues me as we could have gotten a completely different version of the record if Chino never finished it with Shaun Lopez.
Good interview, very honest. Lol @ Chi with the Tom Hanks stuff. :D
Miss that guy.
http://www.altpress.com/news/entry/deftones_are_planning_release_new_album_in_september_says_chino_moreno (http://www.altpress.com/news/entry/deftones_are_planning_release_new_album_in_september_says_chino_moreno)
I once had an Adrenaline t-shirt... tired of explaining to everybody that it's the album cover, not just an enema on my t-shirt...
Quote from: astynk on May 06, 2015, 08:02 AM
I once had an Adrenaline t-shirt... tired of explaining to everybody that it's the album cover, not just an enema on my t-shirt...
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/119/638/waynesworld-cool-story-bro.jpg)
Quote from: astynk on May 06, 2015, 08:02 AM
I once had an Adrenaline t-shirt... tired of explaining to everybody that it's the album cover, not just an enema on my t-shirt...
That'd be all well and good if that's what was on the cover of Adrenaline. It's a device used to clear the lungs of mucus in newborn babies. It doesn't go in butts. Also I can't seem to find the part where you comment is relevant to this thread.
(http://t.fod4.com/t/177fcc0acc/c640x360_32.jpg)
Nevermind me. I'm just a stupid double post.
It's a bulb syringe, a nose sucker to clear out a baby's nose from snot.
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy20/from_musings/86804_zpsyfmcdtzu.jpg)
i don't know that was posted before, sorry if yes. These are great:
https://vimeo.com/69580869 - Backstage Austin 2013 - nice to see backstage and interview with Chino and Abe :) Really PRO.
https://vimeo.com/85894391 - Big Day Out 2014 - cool interview with Abe and Sergio with some hot lady :)
https://vimeo.com/75305182 - Metal XS - S02E01 - starts at 9:50 - nice interview with Chino and Abe about Eros and something more, funny at the end :)
It amazes me that this conversation about the cover of Adrenaline has gone this far. It IS a bulb syringe. It has MANY uses, INCLUDING CLEANING YOUR EARS! Did anyone maybe guess perhaps it's imagery was meant to play with the band's name of Deftones? Ear wax? Deaf? Deftones? Geesh.
ugly ass cover though, right up there with around the fur and diamond eyes
backstage rock in rio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns58qTcat1o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns58qTcat1o)
Chino says he's ripping off Morrissey on the new album:
http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blog/deftones-chino-moreno-on-their-spacey-morrissey-inspired-new-album?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=deftones (http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blog/deftones-chino-moreno-on-their-spacey-morrissey-inspired-new-album?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=deftones)
Quote from: Inkblades on May 12, 2015, 03:45 PM
Chino says he's ripping off Morrissey on the new album:
http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blog/deftones-chino-moreno-on-their-spacey-morrissey-inspired-new-album?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=deftones (http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blog/deftones-chino-moreno-on-their-spacey-morrissey-inspired-new-album?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=deftones)
Key/synth-heavy, morrissey esque delay/delivery, a heavier emotional slant, songs brought together via pure jam sessions....
Everything I'm hearing about this album sounds excellent. I know Chino's the hype man, but the way he's describing the album sounds like the kind of record I've been wanting from them fo' a minute.
Also, sounds like the planned release has been pushed to Oct....
This weeks Kerrang.
(http://www.kerrang.com/wp-content/uploads/1568_Deftones_news.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAFo4q9O7oQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAFo4q9O7oQ)
Chino Moreno talks new album and Jerry Cantrell's Involvement [FULL INTERVIEW]
Quote from: defsteve on May 12, 2015, 06:22 PM
This weeks Kerrang.
(http://www.kerrang.com/wp-content/uploads/1568_Deftones_news.jpg)
Is there a larger version? Can't read it.
Hell yeah guys! A lot of interesting news coming through this week. As always thanks for sharing.
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/chino-moreno-says-new-deftones-album-is-a-little-more-technical/ (http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/chino-moreno-says-new-deftones-album-is-a-little-more-technical/)
According to the Kerrang magazine interview above, the album is supposedly going to be more technical. Does anybody happen to have the full article and can upload a scan of it?
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on May 15, 2015, 06:06 PM
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/chino-moreno-says-new-deftones-album-is-a-little-more-technical/ (http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/chino-moreno-says-new-deftones-album-is-a-little-more-technical/)
According to the Kerrang magazine interview above, the album is supposedly going to be more technical. Does anybody happen to have the full article and can upload a scan of it?
I have the NME one, I can upload if anybody want (is the same interview of this page: Deftones' Chino Moreno On Their Spacey, Morrissey-Inspired New Album (http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blog/deftones-chino-moreno-on-their-spacey-morrissey-inspired-new-album))
Btw, it is a serious mistake to confuse the producer Matt Hyde (american, producer of Slayer, Soulfly, Children of Bodom, Porno for Pyros, Hatebreed) with its British namesake (Slipknot, Machine Head, Chimaira)
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on May 15, 2015, 06:06 PM
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/chino-moreno-says-new-deftones-album-is-a-little-more-technical/ (http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/chino-moreno-says-new-deftones-album-is-a-little-more-technical/)
According to the Kerrang magazine interview above, the album is supposedly going to be more technical. Does anybody happen to have the full article and can upload a scan of it?
Here You are ;)
(http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww252/raswid/Kerrang%20interview%20part1_zps3xuoqa0b.jpg) (http://s725.photobucket.com/user/raswid/media/Kerrang%20interview%20part1_zps3xuoqa0b.jpg.html)
(http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww252/raswid/Kerrang%20interview%20part2_zpsvy0iqnci.jpg) (http://s725.photobucket.com/user/raswid/media/Kerrang%20interview%20part2_zpsvy0iqnci.jpg.html)
@luisch, please upload that NME interview :)
Thanks so much!
Thanks, Raswid!
You're welcome
Thank you, Raswid!
NME - 16 May 2015.pdf (https://mega.co.nz/#!FxlClD4T!KL7rHYMPSL630esCoZBbtkzo8EVJPQDWK7-U5s4gZt8)
Quote from: luisch on May 15, 2015, 08:28 PM
Thank you, Raswid!
NME - 16 May 2015.pdf (https://mega.co.nz/#!FxlClD4T!KL7rHYMPSL630esCoZBbtkzo8EVJPQDWK7-U5s4gZt8)
Thank You, as well!
thanks, Raswid!
Nice. thanks
Thanks for posting Raswid.
what we know about deftones upcoming album so far:
- heavy
- technical
- not happy
- not angry
- not blatant
- not direct
Quote from: from_musings on May 16, 2015, 07:46 AM
Thanks for posting Raswid.
what we know about deftones upcoming album so far:
- heavy
- technical
- not happy
- not angry
- not blatant
- not direct
Probably a bit of both angry and happy. I am looking foward to the technical elements as long as its not too electronic
Very candid interview from 2003: http://www.dallasobserver.com/music/def-jams-6387185 (http://www.dallasobserver.com/music/def-jams-6387185)
Interview with Abe for DIY Magazine:
http://issuu.com/diymagazine/docs/diy__june_2015 (http://issuu.com/diymagazine/docs/diy__june_2015)
Quote from: Raswid on May 22, 2015, 07:24 PM
Interview with Abe for DIY Magazine:
http://issuu.com/diymagazine/docs/diy__june_2015 (http://issuu.com/diymagazine/docs/diy__june_2015)
Thanks, Raswid. Interview starts on page 23.
I cleaned out my apartment, and I found an old deftones interview on VHS that I recorded from a crappy tv channel on swedish television. it's from January 31st 1998 when they visited Stockholm. Questions are in swedish, but the answers are in english.
deftones interview 1998 (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2stbrl)
n/m
Upload it somewhere?
Quote from: Knucklestones on Jun 05, 2015, 12:37 PM
Upload it somewhere?
uploaded on dailymotion (youtube blocked it) - check the interview again
a friend made this drawing :)
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Quote from: dawg on Jun 24, 2015, 08:16 PM
a friend made this drawing :)
That's talent right there, pretty awesome art drawing.
Article written by Chino http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/team-sleep-and-deftones-chino-moreno-on-the-dangerous-thrill-of-live-albums?recache=8&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=chinomoreno (http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/team-sleep-and-deftones-chino-moreno-on-the-dangerous-thrill-of-live-albums?recache=8&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=chinomoreno)
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Jul 02, 2015, 03:30 PM
Article written by Chino http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/team-sleep-and-deftones-chino-moreno-on-the-dangerous-thrill-of-live-albums?recache=8&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=chinomoreno (http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/team-sleep-and-deftones-chino-moreno-on-the-dangerous-thrill-of-live-albums?recache=8&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=chinomoreno)
Does anyone have (a link to) that picture of Chino from an interview (I think) where he shows a tshirt saying 'pussy, money, weed' and something else? (the picture that is in the article above).
Think it's funny :)
Quote from: Martin on Jul 02, 2015, 05:02 PM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Jul 02, 2015, 03:30 PM
Article written by Chino http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/team-sleep-and-deftones-chino-moreno-on-the-dangerous-thrill-of-live-albums?recache=8&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=chinomoreno (http://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/team-sleep-and-deftones-chino-moreno-on-the-dangerous-thrill-of-live-albums?recache=8&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=chinomoreno)
Does anyone have (a link to) that picture of Chino from an interview (I think) where he shows a tshirt saying 'pussy, money, weed' and something else? (the picture that is in the article above).
Think it's funny :)
The last thing is "A$AP" As in A$ap Rocky, a rapper.
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-43792207/stock-photo-the-hands-of-children-throw-upwards-messages-in-the-manner-of-paper-airplanes.html (http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-43792207/stock-photo-the-hands-of-children-throw-upwards-messages-in-the-manner-of-paper-airplanes.html)
Quote from: slyartwork on Jul 06, 2015, 07:32 AM
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-43792207/stock-photo-the-hands-of-children-throw-upwards-messages-in-the-manner-of-paper-airplanes.html (http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-43792207/stock-photo-the-hands-of-children-throw-upwards-messages-in-the-manner-of-paper-airplanes.html)
?
so its just instagram filter??
Quote from: tarkil on Jul 06, 2015, 07:40 AM
Quote from: slyartwork on Jul 06, 2015, 07:32 AM
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-43792207/stock-photo-the-hands-of-children-throw-upwards-messages-in-the-manner-of-paper-airplanes.html (http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-43792207/stock-photo-the-hands-of-children-throw-upwards-messages-in-the-manner-of-paper-airplanes.html)
?
https://www.facebook.com/deftones/photos/a.437821222490.235822.5544067490/10153494650977491/?type=1&source=11 (https://www.facebook.com/deftones/photos/a.437821222490.235822.5544067490/10153494650977491/?type=1&source=11)
God, I hope that's not the album cover. I can't imagine it will be, but still.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelly-frazier/deftones-to-kick-off-tour_b_7822220.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelly-frazier/deftones-to-kick-off-tour_b_7822220.html)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKJIyF4UcAAiMMY.jpg)
Jose and the Dogg.
Looks like the guys are killing it atm
http://www.billboard.com/articles/review/6641751/deftones-incubus-tour-2015-detroit-michigan-review (http://www.billboard.com/articles/review/6641751/deftones-incubus-tour-2015-detroit-michigan-review)
Lol. Should have gone on last. I wonder if they'll switch it up.
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Interview with Abe and Frank:
http://diffuser.fm/deftones-interview-2015/ (http://diffuser.fm/deftones-interview-2015/)
Biggest news is the album is almost done being mixed. It's also pretty crazy that they wrote 20 songs for this album. I'd be interested in a slightly longer Deftones album. Maybe an album with maybe 13 or 14 songs? The downside of that, of course, is a bigger chance of filler.
Edit: N/M.
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/deftones-singer-says-band-wont-play-new-songs-on-current-tour/ (http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/deftones-singer-says-band-wont-play-new-songs-on-current-tour/)
Chino saying they won't be playing new songs anytime soon because they want every song to be heard free of any preconceptions.
Much respect,
-Matt
I'm cool with that, it's not bad to play new songs live if they're just heavy high energy tracks but if they've really gone for something different and have more textured and abstract tracks I could see why they would worry about how they would come across on low quality youtube videos.
Posted from Fishman's Facebook today (from the show in Mansfield, MA)
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(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11058819_10152993540792797_223106802384223578_n.jpg?oh=f5d4de3d4a83b897b0776d349dc31bb7&oe=568360AB)
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11863383_10152993540797797_7540439561571140750_n.jpg?oh=ee44b1bf22890cd5e14a32e5b03bd682&oe=564DFE5B)
Gold plated Fishman pickups AND floyd rose... sick as fuck. (pic from extended range guitar nerds facebook)
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11796462_10206197289563949_7586471376991542243_n.jpg?oh=efdc870440057c780551c9c4ae4f5325&oe=56841E65)
funny the hyper link to Chino tattoo ;) http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/are-depeche-mode-metals-biggest-secret-influence-20150811?page=5 (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/are-depeche-mode-metals-biggest-secret-influence-20150811?page=5)
Quote from: Jesus2Chino on Jul 30, 2015, 12:19 AM
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/deftones-singer-says-band-wont-play-new-songs-on-current-tour/ (http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/deftones-singer-says-band-wont-play-new-songs-on-current-tour/)
Chino saying they won't be playing new songs anytime soon because they want every song to be heard free of any preconceptions.
Much respect,
-Matt
It's bullshit. Even if their sound have really change from DE and KNY, what's the problem doing them live ?
When WP drops, the gap was huge with ATF. And that's was amazing you know ?
This is hands down my favorite Stephen interview. So much good information in this video about himself as a player, his 'perspectives', and other random bits and laughs.
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PFIFPD4uVk#)
Interesting read about the s/t album.
http://decibelmagazine.com/blog/2015/7/29/justify-your-shitty-taste-deftones-deftones (http://decibelmagazine.com/blog/2015/7/29/justify-your-shitty-taste-deftones-deftones)
Their worst album. I'm all for aggression and darkness in their music, but that album was just not written very well and the band has agreed to as much. Too many rehashed and repetitive sounds and a lot of the songs sound like they got 3/4 the way through writing them and called it a day.
Listen again dude....
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 02, 2015, 04:01 PM
Their worst album. I'm all for aggression and darkness in their music, but that album was just not written very well and the band has agreed to as much. Too many rehashed and repetitive sounds and a lot of the songs sound like they got 3/4 the way through writing them and called it a day.
By far my favorite album.
Yeah, S/T is a gem.
pretty weak article though, i imagine it's written by a skinny pasty white skinned metal dude
"YAY ITS HEAVY IT ROCKS"
great analysis bro
Quote from: Penicks on Sep 03, 2015, 03:51 PM
pretty weak article though, i imagine it's written by a skinny pasty white skinned metal dude
"YAY ITS HEAVY IT ROCKS"
great analysis bro
Lol, is this how all spic's think?
(http://i.imgur.com/RW2BJF6.jpg)
Quote from: Diplo on Sep 03, 2015, 11:53 AM
Listen again dude....
Can't find the video interview where they talk about how lazy they were during the writing process and how S/T suffered because of it but I was able to dig this quote up where Chino is being interviewed about SNW.
"On our last record we got kind of lazy by writing as few riffs as possible."
Straight from the horse's mouth.
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/deftones-frontman-talks-about-upcoming-album/ (http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/deftones-frontman-talks-about-upcoming-album/)
An interview during the SNW era? Wasn't that when Chino was high on speed and not getting along with the rest of the band? I wouldn't put too much stock into that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFZbzO5MYJo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFZbzO5MYJo)
In this great Chino and Abe interview, they more or less say the same thing about SNW. They talk about how all over the place it is. I think they just don't like the "dark days" era of S/T and SNW because they were fucked up on drugs and/or going through divorces. My point is its fine if you think S/T is their worst album (I personally disagree), but using how they feel about the records isn't the best way to support your argument. How YOU feel about the album is what matters.
Nah, there was a recent interview (in the last few years) where they said the same thing. It was a video though so I have no idea how to find it since it wasn't specifically about S/T, but they definitely mention again how lazy they were with the songwriting for it. I'd agree that SNW is disjointed (and the vocals sound like shit because Lopez isn't that great at producing) but the overall songwriting for that album was much stronger than S/T. WAY more inspired stuff on there.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 04, 2015, 06:58 PM
An interview during the SNW era? Wasn't that when Chino was high on speed and not getting along with the rest of the band? I wouldn't put too much stock into that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFZbzO5MYJo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFZbzO5MYJo)
In this great Chino and Abe interview, they more or less say the same thing about SNW. They talk about how all over the place it is. I think they just don't like the "dark days" era of S/T and SNW because they were fucked up on drugs and/or going through divorces. My point is its fine if you think S/T is their worst album (I personally disagree), but using how they feel about the records isn't the best way to support your argument. How YOU feel about the album is what matters.
Great photos from Shoreline Amphitheatre show
http://www.antiheromagazine.com/concert-photos-deftones/ (http://www.antiheromagazine.com/concert-photos-deftones/)
Interview with Frank and Chi for Polish TV music program "30 Ton" from 2001:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDoUQlALzTc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDoUQlALzTc)
Quote from: therealdaebat on Sep 03, 2015, 12:57 PM
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 02, 2015, 04:01 PM
Their worst album. I'm all for aggression and darkness in their music, but that album was just not written very well and the band has agreed to as much. Too many rehashed and repetitive sounds and a lot of the songs sound like they got 3/4 the way through writing them and called it a day.
By far my favorite album.
Yeah you're nuts, self titled is by far my favorite of theirs. Diamond Eyes deserves the title of worst.
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Sep 07, 2015, 01:31 PM
Quote from: therealdaebat on Sep 03, 2015, 12:57 PM
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 02, 2015, 04:01 PM
Their worst album. I'm all for aggression and darkness in their music, but that album was just not written very well and the band has agreed to as much. Too many rehashed and repetitive sounds and a lot of the songs sound like they got 3/4 the way through writing them and called it a day.
By far my favorite album.
Yeah you're nuts, self titled is by far my favorite of theirs. Diamond Eyes deserves the title of worst.
s/t, is hands down their best, i dont know how somebody could be able to say the contrary, even if its not your favorite, you got to know that it is their most concrete album ever..
i don't see how s/t is their best. really only this little message board would agree to that. it's only an opinion, & outside this site it's not close to their best album poll wise. it's an awesome album no question, but it's near the bottom for me(but deftones worst albums are still great, so no big deal)
i'd rank them like this
around the fur
white pony
adrenaline
diamond eyes
like linus (i feel these old demos are so badass and deserve to always be mentioned, for me at least. awesome)
koi no yokan
self titled
saturday night wrist
i would put crosses, & palms ahead of s/t as well. team sleep's 2005 album barely behind it
counting Chino's other 3 albums it would be like this
around the fur
white pony (virtual tie with atf)
adrenaline
crosses
diamond eyes
palms
like linus
koi no yokan
self titled
team sleep (2005)
saturday night wrist
holy shit Chino makes some awesome music. i love all these albums
If you can't see how lazy the songwriting is on S/T, you're not looking at it objectively. They overused and rehashed certain sounds and riffs on that album that made it monotonous and a lot of those songs don't even have proper bridges because again, they would get 3/4 the way through writing a song and just call it a day.
One man's lazy is another man's cohesive, haha. Best, worst, whatever--people will almost always choose their favorite albums based on the emotional response they elicit. S/T does it for me, but I can see how it might not for others. I don't think there's a whole lot of room for objectivity when deciding which albums are your favorites.
Much respect,
-Matt
Quote from: Jesus2Chino on Sep 09, 2015, 11:29 AM
people will almost always choose their favorite albums based on the emotional response they elicit.
Exactly.
ATF does it for me.
WP=Adrenaline=KNY>ATF=DE=SNW>S/T
White Pony, Adrenaline and Koi no Yokan are all pretty much perfect albums with unique and fleshed out ideas on them. Around the Fur, Diamond Eyes, and Saturday Night Wrist are nearly perfect. They each have some problems whether it be some redundancy or rehashed sounds or disjointed production. Self-Titled just wasn't written as well as the other albums. It had some great ideas on it and Anniversary is a top five Deftones track but the laziness was definitely there.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 09, 2015, 05:17 PM
Koi no Yokan pretty much perfect album with unique and fleshed out ideas
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 09, 2015, 05:17 PMDiamond Eyes nearly perfect
(http://i.imgur.com/cXm16at.png)
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 09, 2015, 05:17 PM
WP=Adrenaline=KNY>ATF=DE=SNW>S/T
White Pony, Adrenaline and Koi no Yokan are all pretty much perfect albums with unique and fleshed out ideas on them. Around the Fur, Diamond Eyes, and Saturday Night Wrist are nearly perfect. They each have some problems whether it be some redundancy or rehashed sounds or disjointed production. Self-Titled just wasn't written as well as the other albums. It had some great ideas on it and Anniversary is a top five Deftones track but the laziness was definitely there.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YIKuXNmE-OE/VcH7oygsCLI/AAAAAAAAC0k/9C58LT8oOA8/w506-h750/11828654_10207475265544038_8835887443916331147_n.jpg)
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 09, 2015, 05:17 PM
Koi no Yokan pretty much perfect album with unique and fleshed out ideas
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 09, 2015, 05:17 PM
Diamond Eyes nearly perfect
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy20/from_musings/planetoftheapes_zpslqm1yjis.gif)
Yep, Deftones fans are dumb as shit.
all the albums are good in their own way
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 10, 2015, 01:29 AM
Yep, Deftones fans are dumb as shit.
Kind of a weird thing to say...as a Deftones fan...
Like I said before, you should really stop trying to objectively determine some albums as being better than others; it's not possible, and no opinion you have on the matter is right or wrong. It's music, not math. If there was a way to write music that was objectively better than other music, everyone would like the same albums universally across all artists, as those albums would have a higher value of goodness than all others. The reason this is literally never the case is because what music is good and what music isn't is ENTIRELY subjective.
That being said, ATF through to S/T, that was the golden age of Deftones. Nah just kidding. But no really. Nah. But yeah. This is my subjective opinion, and it doesn't matter if anyone else agrees or disagrees, as it won't ever be more wrong or right than anyone else's. You can argue, and disagree, and insult people as much as you want over their subjective opinions, but you're literally just wasting energy, time, and life. It won't change their opinion of anything but you.
Much respect,
-Matt
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 10, 2015, 01:29 AM
Yep, Deftones fans are dumb as shit.
It's a weird thing they attract intelligent people who are in to the band for what they do musically but they also attract a ton of "stupid" fans who are really more fixated on Chino then the band or their music, anyone who has seen some of stupid stuff on the FB groups knows what I'm talking about.
At the end of the day, it depends on your preferences. Some people prefer Adrenaline, even though they've grown and evolved and improved so much since then. They might prefer it because of the rawness or the fact that it was such a unique sound back then, or maybe they associate it with a good time in their life, etc. Same applies to all their albums. If you hate clean, polished-sounding music, you're not going to prefer Diamond Eyes or Koi No Yokan over Around the Fur or the self-titled album, are you? But that doesn't mean they're their worst albums, it's just about what people are looking for.
Everyone's opinion is valid, but they are still just opinions. The only stupid thing is when people say "____ isn't a REAL Deftones album" just because it doesn't have the sound they expect. Deftones have never stuck to a specific genre or set of rules, they make whatever they want. If you hate it, that's no big deal, but it's still Deftones.
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 10, 2015, 08:46 AM
At the end of the day, it depends on your preferences. Some people prefer Adrenaline, even though they've grown and evolved and improved so much since then.
I don't think stephen has evolved that much since adrenaline (which had awesome riffs) on the contrary, it's rather the opposite of that. to quote cain on kny: it's like stephen isn't even trying anymore.
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 10, 2015, 11:25 AM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Sep 10, 2015, 08:46 AM
At the end of the day, it depends on your preferences. Some people prefer Adrenaline, even though they've grown and evolved and improved so much since then.
I don't think stephen has evolved that much since adrenaline (which had awesome riffs) on the contrary, it's rather the opposite of that. to quote cain on kny: it's like stephen isn't even trying anymore.
I don't think so, for a while he just settled into power chords but on the last record he incorporated more techniques like tapping and tremolo picking, definitely not complex stuff but it shows he's moving in the right direction, I have high hopes he's continued that on the new album especially after seeing that long interview where he talks about how seeing people on youtube has inspired to become a better guitar player and pursue further training.
yeah there's finger tapping in entombed,something new i agree. but when you say tremolo picking, do you mean the "solo" in swerve city?
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 10, 2015, 01:38 PM
yeah there's finger tapping in entombed,something new i agree. but when you say tremolo picking, do you mean the "solo" in swerve city?
Yeah there's some in goon squad aswell, not sure it's actually tremolo picked or whether it's an effect but it has a tremolo sound anyway, also not sure who wrote it Chino may have I know he plays it live atleast.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Sep 10, 2015, 01:29 AM
Yep, Deftones fans are dumb as shit.
Maybe you should actually listen to Deftones albums a little more before you start shitposting.
So much stuff that I disagree with on the last two pages, but I'm not really going to change the minds of anyone, so I won't even bother. Plus, everyone is entitled to their own opinions, so I will respect that...
PSYCH!
KNY IS IN THEIR TOP THREE ALBUMS AND EQUAL TO WHITE PONY?
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ADRENALINE IS BETTER THAN ATF?
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/oIR6xeOffCEBa/200_s.gif)
PALMS IS BETTER THAN S/T, SNW AND TEAM SLEEP?
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/oIR6xeOffCEBa/200_s.gif)
*runs out of thread*
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Sep 10, 2015, 01:58 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 10, 2015, 01:38 PM
yeah there's finger tapping in entombed,something new i agree. but when you say tremolo picking, do you mean the "solo" in swerve city?
Yeah there's some in goon squad aswell, not sure it's actually tremolo picked or whether it's an effect but it has a tremolo sound anyway, also not sure who wrote it Chino may have I know he plays it live atleast.
stephen used tremolo picking back in 1995 on the 7 words b-side/promo "please please please let me get what i want" so using that again 17 years later isn't that evolving i think. the power chords on adrenaline is far more bad ass than the powerchords and hitting that lower string on an 8-string guitar a la rosemary on kny. most of the kny riffs sounds so dull and inspired. like i said, entombed is a song that is something new.
but that one song isn't enough "proof" that he is constantly evolving growing and improving since the adrenaline days
Also, tremolo picking or not, that main riff on Entombed gets really repetitive.
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 10, 2015, 03:47 PM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Sep 10, 2015, 01:58 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 10, 2015, 01:38 PM
yeah there's finger tapping in entombed,something new i agree. but when you say tremolo picking, do you mean the "solo" in swerve city?
Yeah there's some in goon squad aswell, not sure it's actually tremolo picked or whether it's an effect but it has a tremolo sound anyway, also not sure who wrote it Chino may have I know he plays it live atleast.
stephen used tremolo picking back in 1995 on the 7 words b-side/promo "please please please let me get what i want" so using that again 17 years later isn't that evolving i think. the power chords on adrenaline is far more bad ass than the powerchords and hitting that lower string on an 8-string guitar a la rosemary on kny. most of the kny riffs sounds so dull and inspired. like i said, entombed is a song that is something new.
but that one song isn't enough "proof" that he is constantly evolving growing and improving since the adrenaline days
I'm aware of that and having played all the albums on guitar Adrenaline is still the hardest to play just because of the speed and subtle changes my comment wasn't really talking about his development overall, I agree he hasn't developed much as a player over his career what I was talking about is his playing on KNY vs the preceding albums like DE and SNW which were simpler, basically even though his playing has been pretty basic for a while KNY is a step in the right direction.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 10, 2015, 03:55 PM
Also, tremolo picking or not, that main riff on Entombed gets really repetitive.
True, however I think it's more the sum of their parts what makes their music so great and appealing to me, nowadays. In the earlier years it was really just guitar, bass and drums, so it was up to Stephen to create the memorable melodies in their music. But now that they have Frank on keys and synths and Chino as an additional guitarist he can take a step back and focus on playing what he really prefers, which is playing rhythm guitar. Sure, his riffs have gotten simpler, but with everyone else playing together their instrumentation as a whole has become more complex and layered.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 10, 2015, 03:55 PM
Also, tremolo picking or not, that main riff on Entombed gets really repetitive.
Yeah it's not the best I feel it fits the song as it is but he could have added more to the song by developing the riff but it's a good sign for me because it shows he may be reassessing his playing and looking at other ways he can play, Chino may have written it but I like that Stephen may be picking up his guitar and doing something outside what he is automatically drawn to, could be Chino talking bullshit but if there is some truth to the "we're forcing ourselves to take songs in less obvious directions" thing then it could be a good writing environment for him to do something new.
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Sep 10, 2015, 04:23 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 10, 2015, 03:55 PM
Also, tremolo picking or not, that main riff on Entombed gets really repetitive.
But now that they have Frank on keys and synths...
i see your point,i just want to say and clarify that frank did stuff on all of their records.
Quote from: from_musings on Sep 10, 2015, 04:34 PM
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Sep 10, 2015, 04:23 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 10, 2015, 03:55 PM
Also, tremolo picking or not, that main riff on Entombed gets really repetitive.
But now that they have Frank on keys and synths...
i see your point,i just want to say and clarify that frank did stuff on all of their records.
I know, but come on, he only has a pivotal role in the band since White Pony
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Sep 10, 2015, 04:27 PM
"we're forcing ourselves to take songs in less obvious directions"
can also mean that they're pushing themselves into a territory they can't handle
And that's would be great.
I agree with so many post in this thread... I really think they have improved them as musicians in a wayAnd that's would be great.
I agree with so many post in this thread... I really think they have improve them as musician in a way but it's not individualy, they have improved themselfs as a group. Just listen Noosebleed and then Entombed, Im not saying wich one is better, it's just not the same thing, but the way it's written it's a proof of maturity.
Also I want Abe to be more present, since snw (where he was sooo good) I dont know it lacks something not individualy, but have improved themselfs as a group. Just listen Noosebleed and then Entombed, Im not saying wich one is better, it's just not the same thing, but the way it's written it's a proof of maturity.
Also I want Abe to be more present, since snw (where he was sooo good) I dont know it lacks something
I'll just put this right here
Deftones' Chino Moreno Rig Rundown Video & Live Footage Available from theprp
https://youtu.be/DQ1oq7qfd_0
Really interesting and clean setup. And dang, his vocal is on point these days.
Much respect,
-Matt
Quote from: RavinVsFlud on Sep 11, 2015, 09:37 PM
I'll just put this right here
Deftones' Chino Moreno Rig Rundown Video & Live Footage Available from theprp
https://youtu.be/DQ1oq7qfd_0
At 6:26, is that Cherry Waves I see on the setlist? Woah!
Quote from: Hinojos on Sep 13, 2015, 01:15 PM
Quote from: RavinVsFlud on Sep 11, 2015, 09:37 PM
I'll just put this right here
Deftones' Chino Moreno Rig Rundown Video & Live Footage Available from theprp
https://youtu.be/DQ1oq7qfd_0
At 6:26, is that Cherry Waves I see on the setlist? Woah!
How can you even read that?
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Sep 14, 2015, 06:02 PM
Quote from: Hinojos on Sep 13, 2015, 01:15 PM
Quote from: RavinVsFlud on Sep 11, 2015, 09:37 PM
I'll just put this right here
Deftones' Chino Moreno Rig Rundown Video & Live Footage Available from theprp
https://youtu.be/DQ1oq7qfd_0
At 6:26, is that Cherry Waves I see on the setlist? Woah!
How can you even read that?
Hinojos obviously has better eyesight than you do.
Really interesting to see a rundown of Chino's gear. Seems like no time at all that he was using Orange amps. Anyway doesn't matter he still sucks at playing guitar.
Quote from: defsteve on Sep 05, 2015, 07:37 PM
Great photos from Shoreline Amphitheatre show
http://www.antiheromagazine.com/concert-photos-deftones/ (http://www.antiheromagazine.com/concert-photos-deftones/)
That 'statche on A CUN is tight.
Hinojos obviously has better eyesight than you do.
Really interesting to see a rundown of Chino's gear. Seems like no time at all that he was using Orange amps. Anyway doesn't matter he still sucks at playing guitar.
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I know, last I heard he was gushing over Orange amps and how much he liked them now he switched to Rivera?...
I don't think Chino sucks as much as he is just sloppy when he plays live... neither him or Stef are great technical players but it doesn't help when chino is fumbling around live or his guitar isn't leveled right in the mix which seems to happen often. Stef isn't a great player but he is steady as a rock for the most part.
Anyone want to take a stab at translating this?
Frank Delgado, de Deftones: "Amo a Chile y quiero dar todo en nuestro show"
http://www.emol.com/noticias/Espectaculos/2015/09/25/751634/Frank-Delgado-de-Deftones-Amo-a-Chile-y-quiero-dar-todo-para-el-dia-de-nuestro-show.html (http://www.emol.com/noticias/Espectaculos/2015/09/25/751634/Frank-Delgado-de-Deftones-Amo-a-Chile-y-quiero-dar-todo-para-el-dia-de-nuestro-show.html)
Curious to know it he dropped any info on the new stuff.
Quote from: RavinVsFlud on Sep 27, 2015, 09:38 PM
Anyone want to take a stab at translating this?
Frank Delgado, de Deftones: "Amo a Chile y quiero dar todo en nuestro show"
http://www.emol.com/noticias/Espectaculos/2015/09/25/751634/Frank-Delgado-de-Deftones-Amo-a-Chile-y-quiero-dar-todo-para-el-dia-de-nuestro-show.html (http://www.emol.com/noticias/Espectaculos/2015/09/25/751634/Frank-Delgado-de-Deftones-Amo-a-Chile-y-quiero-dar-todo-para-el-dia-de-nuestro-show.html)
Curious to know it he dropped any info on the new stuff.
'By the way the new album, is supposed to have been ready for this time, but you delayed it. Finally, when they launch and what was the reason to delay it? 'm have postponed until November, I think. You know, we're still in the process of mixing. We not yet heard the final mixes that we can approve, and we are also working in art, in the name of the songs and other things. So yes, it is still a work in progress, but the music is ready.
old interview where he said the same thing.
http://www.theprp.com/2015/10/07/news/earnings-attendance-from-acdc-heavy-montreal-slipknot-system-of-a-down-deftones-etc-shows/ (http://www.theprp.com/2015/10/07/news/earnings-attendance-from-acdc-heavy-montreal-slipknot-system-of-a-down-deftones-etc-shows/)
Earnings & Attendance From AC/DC, 'Heavy Montreal', Slipknot, System Of A Down, Deftones, Etc. Shows
Artist: System Of A Down & Deftones
Venue: Sao Paulo, BRA – Arena Anhembi
Date: Sep. 25th, 2015
Gross Sales: $1,423,320
Attendance/Capacity: 25,289 / 27,500
Ticket Prices: $124.90, $31.22
Artist: Incubus, Deftones, Death From Above 1979 & The Eeries
Venue: Inglewood, CA – The Forum
Date: Aug. 28th, 2015
Gross Sales: $622,900
Attendance/Capacity: 10,859 / 10,859
Ticket Prices: $114.75, $99.75, $44.57, $29.75
new interview in brazil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9FH2-7pBiw&feature=youtu.be&a (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9FH2-7pBiw&feature=youtu.be&a)
Shame there really was no point in this interview.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=905966122826430 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=905966122826430)
New Interview with Sergio happening in 6 minutes
i'll listen and report any info.. they're talking new album.
--Talking about quicksand
--Talking about the 6 string bass : Fender Bass 6.
--New album... still mixing... still november...
--tour stuff for october
Still November? Hard to believe, honestly.
well, chino did say he didn't want any preconceptions about the album. that may include singles and/or an announcement even
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Oct 21, 2015, 12:01 AM
Still November? Hard to believe, honestly.
I doubt it would take long once the final mixes have been approved along with the artwork? At that point its just packaging and printing( for CDs) however digital it should be ready
Did Sergio say anything specific about the new album or his Fender Bass 6? I'm really curious
https://youtu.be/gmCq9N8BHRc
Abe getting a little teary eyed reminiscing about Chi. Damn, made me choked up a little, too.
Man that's rough seeing happy go lucky Abe talk so frankly about Chi, i know they've touched on it over the years but usually the subject moves on pretty quick so it was hard hearing him talk more in depth about how much it hurt to see Chi in the state he was in and how 7 or so years on he's still so prominent in their minds, hearing that there are still times where they just say to each other "I miss Chi" was sad, shows that his loss is still very much on their mind and probably in their music.
Awesome! Abe is the man.
One Love!
New info on the new album and mixing up the set lists etc.
https://www.newsreview.com/sacramento/twenty-years-later-sacramento-039-s-deftones/content?oid=18818995 (https://www.newsreview.com/sacramento/twenty-years-later-sacramento-039-s-deftones/content?oid=18818995)
Twenty years later, Sacramento's Deftones continue to rock hard and redefine the rules
Drummer Abe Cunningham talks '90s nu-metal, touring and life after Chi
By Eddie Jorgensen
This article was published on 10.22.15.
Of all the bands lumped into the '90s-era nu-metal diaspora, it seems like few persevered to carve out a distinct path.
Sacramento's Deftones, however, were one such band—and to great success.
Upon the initial release of its debut album 20 years ago this month—1995's aptly-titled Adrenaline—the band came screaming out the gate with ferocity. The album may have peaked at No. 23 on Billboard's Heatseekers chart but it ultimately went on to sell more than a million copies and paved the way for its legacy.
Over the years, the Deftones, who play this weekend's Monster Energy Aftershock Festival, experimented and dabbled with electronics and ambient, among other sounds. The result was a loyal and fervent following and seven very different records, including 1997's Around the Fur which went platinum, and 2000's White Pony, which debuted at No. 3 on the Billboard 200 album chart and nabbed the band a 2001 Grammy Award for Best Metal Performance for the track "Elite."
The Deftones were dealt a heavy blow, however, when a 2008 car crash left the band's founding Chi Cheng in a coma. Cheng ultimately died from related complications in 2013.
Still, two years after his death, the band's core remains strong with drummer Abe Cunningham, singer-songwriter Chino Moreno, and guitarist Stefan Carpenter. Longtime keyboard-turntablist Frank Delgado, who joined the band in 1999, and bassist Sergio Vega, who joined in 2009, round out the lineup.
The band is currently in the midst of putting finishing touches on an upcoming new record; Cunningham sat down to chat with SN&R about the new album and tour plans, the impact of Cheng's death and his enduring love for Sacramento.
There's been some misleading information in the press about the new album and its release date. What's the status?
To be completely honest, we still don't have a title yet. Our label came to us and said we could wait wait until the first quarter of the new year—which works much better for us. That's the plan right now but don't hold me to it. We don't even have song titles nailed down yet. I couldn't even tell you one now if I tried.
The Deftones stayed with Warner Bros. even after the band fulfilled the terms of its initial contract. Why?
Like any new band that started at the bottom, we had everything good and bad thrown our way. We've had ups and downs and had some pretty brutal times on Maverick [the Madonna-helmed subsidiary label of Warner Bros.]. There's some good people still around in our industry that have been working at the label or distribution forever and we've seen regimes come and go. The fact is we have known many people there for years and have developed some great, lasting relationships. We're a pretty simple, straightforward band from Sacramento and just like associating with good people.
Did you get much pressure to change anything when you first released Adrenaline ?
Believe it or not, our first three records we wrote, recorded and mixed without anyone's input. It was quite nice to have that kind of freedom which many bands didn't. It was a great time to be in a band. After White Pony came out and was a big success, the industry was starting to change and we had to learn how to adapt.
What impact did Chi Cheng's passing have on the band artistically or even personally?
Chi's passing has, no doubt, had a tremendous impact on us on so many levels. It wasn't like he was in this accident and was killed. He held on for five years. Seeing him fight for that long and then losing him really put things into perspective. It taught us to be grateful, to be immediate, to respect each other and respect what we have created, to laugh and enjoy, and most importantly to be thankful of the time we have and that we are still able to rock. Not a day goes by that I don't think of him.
How was this year's tour with Incubus? The show at the Shoreline Amphitheatre show was sold out—or at least very close to it.
The whole Incubus tour was a killer run. The shows were huge and all the bands on the package including Death From Above 1979 and The Bots were our friends or are now.
The band has many songs in constant rotation in its live sets—any songs you'd like to add into the mix besides new material?
Dude, this is something we talk about all the time that we really need to work on. It's very easy to get into a groove and play the same stuff over and over: on a run where we're are not the headliner—such as the recent Incubus tour, you really don't get to play a lot. It's definitely time to switch it up and we do once in awhile. I see a lot of stuff on social media of people complaining about not hearing older songs and we definitely don't want to be that band that just phones it in. What people don't know is there's also a lot of different tunings and we've finally figured out which blocks of songs work together for a good show flow. Believe me, when it's our headlining show for the new album and we have much more time, there will be a lot of other songs getting worked in from the past.
What do you do in between the long periods between album tour cycles?
I should be practicing drums a lot more but I'm not. Really, I'm happy just enjoying my sons and my family. I enjoy checking out new places around Sacramento that I haven't seen or missed and cruising around on my bike. Of course, I still love going to shows a lot in Sacramento and hanging with my buddies.
It's been a minute since Deftones last played Sacramento at the 2012 Aftershock Festival. Any plans for a local headlining show?
That's pretty much it for this year. We have a few Southern California shows, one in Vegas and an Arizona date before we head overseas to play France, Germany and the U.K. We don't ever come here. It's really odd that we're a Sacramento band but we rarely play this town. With proper planning, this can and will be attained. We're putting things together slowly for 2016 and when the new record drops we will be everywhere. At least now we're able to pick and choose what we want and we most definitely love Sacramento. It will happen sooner than later.
Great interview, and we now have a better idea of when the album drops. Cool!
Disappointed about how slow they've been with the album, but at least now we have an idea, and cool news about switching up the setlists, assuming they stick with that plan. I hope when the new album drops, they'll come back to the UK soon rather than waiting a while before coming back and actually play some new (and uncommonly played old) songs.
Well.. no album til Jan/Feb/March 2016 :(
I'm not surprised but still disappointed :-\
Quote from: Bifrost on Oct 22, 2015, 10:20 PM
I'm not surprised but still disappointed :-\
This. Exactly this.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/music/new-songs-or-not-deftones-deliver (http://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/music/new-songs-or-not-deftones-deliver)
New songs or not, Deftones deliver
Posted October 23, 2015 - 5:54pm
By Dave Herrera
Las Vegas Review-Journal
When Deftones were last in town for May's Rock In Rio, the Sacramento-based act played more than a dozen cuts. And while Chino Moreno and company served up satisfying staples such as "Be Quiet and Drive (Far Away)," "My Own Summer (Shove It)," "Diamond Eyes," "Sextape" and "Change (In the House of Flies)," sadly, the set didn't include any new material.
Six months later, the band returns fresh off a co-headlining tour with Incubus, stocked with material from a new album that's set to be released sometime in the next month or so.
Will Vegas be treated to a sneak peek of the record? It's hard to say. There doesn't seem to be any real extensive plan right now to hit the road in support of the record, at least not until after the first of the year, according to frontman Moreno, who spoke with college radio station WSOU in New Jersey at the end of the summer.
What's more, recent set lists haven't been drastically different from the Rock In Rio sequence. So, yeah, it's hard to say if they'll unveil any of those new songs live yet, but it seems likely that a few could surface. After all, they're going to have to road test the new material at some point in advance of the next tour, and now seems as good a time as any.
Whatever the case, if the band's past two releases are any indication, the as-yet-untitled album should be stellar, as the quintet has continually progressed with each record and remained consistent when it comes to creating compelling music — and that's noteworthy when you're talking about a modern rock act that's been around for more than two decades.
While there hasn't been a ton revealed yet about the new album, Jerry Cantrell from Alice in Chains reportedly makes a cameo, and in his chat with WSOU, Moreno talked about how bassist Sergio Vega (who stepped in for the since dearly departed Chi Cheng in 2009) plays a six-string bass on the album, which Moreno says provides a solid tonal counterpoint to what he and guitarist Stephen Carpenter are playing.
Stop by Brooklyn Bowl on Tuesday to see if Deftones break out any of the new songs. Expect them to deliver either way.
Pretty good Chino phone interview with Chino. Links in article of interview.
http://www.capradio.org/music/eclectic/2015/10/23/chino-moreno-reflects-on-nearly-three-decades-of-deftones/ (http://www.capradio.org/music/eclectic/2015/10/23/chino-moreno-reflects-on-nearly-three-decades-of-deftones/)
Chino Moreno Reflects On Nearly Three Decades Of Deftones
by Nick Brunner
Friday, October 23, 2015
The Deftones return to their hometown for this weekend's Aftershock Music Festival. I recently spoke with lead singer Chino Moreno about the history of the band since its formation in Sacramento in 1988. I asked Moreno how he feels about playing the older, more aggressive songs the band recorded some 20 years ago.
The band's sound has evolved from the raw aggression of the albums that put them on the map. While Adrenaline and Around the Fur may have captured the minds and ears of frustrated kids, in 2000 White Pony ushered in a more refined sound and with it critical praise. Moreno told me he's always interested in exploring new musical territory with Deftones but likes to let it happen organically.
(Link in artcile)
But, as Moreno went on to explain, the success of White Pony was not a totally stress-free endeavor for the business end of the band or for its record label.
(Link in article)
As for his Sacramento roots, Chino says that as a kid he loved his job in the magazine warehouses of Tower Records.
(Link in article)
Deftones play the main stage of Aftershock on Sunday. The band is currently prepping the release of its eighth studio record.
New interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGgFab2uMm8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGgFab2uMm8)
New interview in Blabbermouth :
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/deftones-are-still-finalizing-new-album-title-artwork-and-songtitles/ (http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/deftones-are-still-finalizing-new-album-title-artwork-and-songtitles/)
Izzy of the 105.1 The Blaze radio station conducted an interview with DEFTONES drummer Abe Cunningham and turntablist/keyboardist Frank Delgado at this past weekend's Aftershock fetival in Sacramento, California. You can now watch the chat below. A couple of excerpts follow (transcribed by BLABBERMOUTH.NET).
On DEFTONES' upcoming follow-up to 2012's "Koi No Yokan" album:
Delgado: "It's being mixed now. It started being mixed a couple weeks back. They're actually going tomorrow to go down and listen to mixes and do things and... We're mixing and we still are in the process of [finalizing the] album title, artwork, songtitles. We haven't even got there yet. But the music's done."
On the writing and recording process for DEFTONES' new album:
Delgado: "You know what's cool? We had some [release] dates that were already kind of tentative. But we were [putting the finishing touches on the album] and the label actually came in. They were, like, 'Hey, guys, for the first time ever, you guys wanna just take your time, make it right, and then we'll release it in the first [quarter] of the year?' And we were, like, 'Wow! Yeah. That sounds great.' And that was actually how we wrote the record. We would go and we'd meet up in L.A. and we'd write for, like, two-three weeks, we'd go home for a week or two weeks, and we'd go back to L.A. and write for a month, then go home for three weeks. So it was very relaxed and very chill. Then we'd do a couple of shows in between all that, and then we were ableto jam our ideas on soundcheck. And we have never done it like that. Usually we'd be, like... They'd say, 'You need a record out at this time.' And then you're, like, 'Oh, shit! We've gotta go in the studio.' Now you've gotta be creative and turn it on within this short amount of time, and write and record. But this one's been hella cool, because it's been at our own pace, at our discretion, and it's been different and really good. And it works for us too, especially now at this time in particular for who we are as musicians and men. A lot of the guys got kids and families, so it worked out for that part of the thing really well."
Speaking about the new album's musical direction, DEFTONES singer Chino Moreno told a radio station this past summer: "Every time we make a record, our main focus, with anything, is to try different things, and try things maybe outside our comfort zone a little bit. But this time, this record, one thing that's really cool, sonically, is that our bass player [Sergio Vega] is really not so much playing... He does play bass on some of the record, but [on] a lot of the record he plays a Bass VI, which is a six-string bass, which is more like a baritone guitar, sort of. So the way his frequency works with my guitar frequency and Stephen's [Carpenter] guitar frequency, it kind of [gave] it a different sound."
Chino also talked about the songwriting process for the follow-up to 2012's "Koi No Yokan". He said: "It's never easy, I don't think. I think we found better ways to work nowadays. We used to have our own studio in Sacramento, and we didn't have set hours or anything like that. We would show up at the studio at eight o'clock at night, and we'd get there, and we'd have no focus. I mean, we'd sit there for two hours watching 'Lost'... Seriously, we would just waste a lot of time, and by the time we'd start playing our instruments, it was midnight or one o'clock in the morning. We were taking three years sometimes to make records. And I attribute that to a lot of different things, but that was one of the main things. A couple of records back, we adopted this [routine] of going in at this hour — we start at noon and we end at five. And the room that we actually write in is pretty small, so while we're in there, we wanna be actually doing something productive. We just need to create, create, so we can get out of here for the day, and then listen to whatever we did the next morning, come [back] in, and do it again. We did, like, ten days, two weeks of writing sessions — going in and spending six days a week just doing that. We all live apart now — a couple of guys live in Sacramento, I live in Oregon, one guy lives in New York, and one guy lives in L.A. So, yeah, we all kind of fly in to meet at a certain spot and just work. And we all kind of go back to our little hideouts and come back and meet again. So it's kind of cool."
According to Moreno, sixteen songs were written for DEFTONES' new CD, which was once again produced by Matt Hyde (SLAYER, CHILDREN OF BODOM, MONSTER MAGNET, WINDS OF PLAGUE). The effort will feature a guest appearance by Jerry Cantrell (ALICE IN CHAINS).
Read more at http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/deftones-are-still-finalizing-new-album-title-artwork-and-songtitles/#1vRSSD4BbsfI4GmS.99 (http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/deftones-are-still-finalizing-new-album-title-artwork-and-songtitles/#1vRSSD4BbsfI4GmS.99)
http://diffuser.fm/18-years-ago-deftones-leave-nu-metal-in-the-dust-with-around-the-fur/ (http://diffuser.fm/18-years-ago-deftones-leave-nu-metal-in-the-dust-with-around-the-fur/)
18 Years Ago: Deftones Leave Nu Metal in the Dust with ‘Around the Fur’
by Saby Reyes-Kulkarni October 28, 2015
“It sounds like something sexual,” Deftones frontman Chino Moreno explained during a 1997 Dutch TV interview. “But it isn’t.” He was referring to the title of the band’s landmark second album, Around the Fur, which had just recently come out at the time. Moreno went on to discuss how he’d been mulling over the unattractive truth that lurks beneath glamorous surfaces. He talked about fur as a visible exterior that conceals skin, which appealed to him as both a metaphor for what people hide about themselves – and as an inverse analogy for the band’s sound, which he described as “soothing” under its “ugly” and “abrasive” exterior.
Indeed, Around the Fur captures the first full blossoming of the duality that has come to define the Sacramento quintet’s musical identity. The album also set a new standard for ’90s alt-metal and opened doors to what’s possible when bands find the motivation to get heavy away from the brutish impulses that typically drive aggressive music. Which is not to say that Around the Fur doesn’t ooze with aggression, but that Moreno and company had learned how to marshal aggression in its broadest sense. As Around the Fur demonstrates, guitarist Stephen Carpenter and the rest of the band had already perfected their ability to warp heavy riffs to suit ambiguous moods. In moments where the music erupts like boiling lava, it’s nevertheless clear that anger isn’t its primary motivation.
When the 1995 Deftones debut Adrenaline first arrived, it cast the band as a slightly more speed-driven variation of the nu metal movement spearheaded by the likes of Korn. As Korn and Adrenaline made clear, rap’s influence had soaked into metal all the way to the roots. Moreno’s vocals on that album place him as a kind of quasi-rapper in a post-thrash, Helmet-influenced world, but the overtones of groups like Cypress Hill were also apparent in the overall sonic ambience and the grooves that both bands favored. On Around the Fur, however, Moreno’s love of new wave groups like Depeche Mode and the Cure began to rear its head in earnest.
At the same time, Around the Fur sounds undeniably thicker and heavier than Adrenaline. When Carpenter locks-in with late bassist Chi Cheng and drummer Abe Cunningham, the three of them together sound gigantic as the music bounds forward with a dinosaur-like stride. Just as significantly, though, the production — once again courtesy of producer Terry Date (Soundgarden, Fishbone) — captures a much wider sense of space that leaves room for Carpenter’s chords and Cunningham’s cymbal hits to trail off into the air. (You can even hear this on low-bitrate MP3s.)
Around the Fur also marks the further integration of DJ-keyboardist Frank Delgado. A far cry from the ornamental DJ scratching favored at the time by groups like Incubus and Sugar Ray, Delgado would eventually become a full-time Deftones member and play an integral role in shaping the sonic character of every Deftones album after this. On Around the Fur, he brings an eerie sense of atmosphere to half the songs, including the darkly ethereal bridge section of the otherwise piledriving title track.
The final piece of the Deftones puzzle to fall into place, Delgado’s contribution essentially consummates the band’s ugly/soothing, crushing/delicate dynamic. His arrival dovetailed with the huge developmental leap forward the band took on Around the Fur, the moment where every aspect of their sound, style, and temperament came together. It’s no surprise, then, that singles like “Be Quiet and Drive (Far Away)” and “My Own Summer (Shove It)” — the latter with its thrilling video — broadened the band’s audience.
Deftones appeared on both Warped Tour and Ozzfest in the wake of Around the Fur, but looking back it’s easy to see why the album firmly entrenched them in the alt-rock firmament and earned them a place as commercial-radio staples. No small feat for such an uncompromising work, one that remains “heavy” in more ways than one.
Short interview with Chino by Daniel P Carter for the BBC Rock Show last night, starts around 1h10 minutes mark :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06nmx5p#play (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06nmx5p#play)
Quote from: Brice on Nov 09, 2015, 06:03 PM
Short interview with Chino by Daniel P Carter for the BBC Rock Show last night, starts around 1h10 minutes mark :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06nmx5p#play (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06nmx5p#play)
So they finished mixing, now mastering. They are close to get album title.
And... they will try to play new song on Wembley!!! I hope it's true.
I hope they will play new song(s) in all of the European shows.
Man kinda disappointed they didn't do a new song durning the Cali shows. The crowds were great at all of then. Fans were really into it. Hope they do it in Europe. That Ventura show was really special. Probably the best show I've seen by them since chi passed. The energy in there was just incredible.
Quote from: Raswid on Nov 09, 2015, 06:54 PM
Quote from: Brice on Nov 09, 2015, 06:03 PM
Short interview with Chino by Daniel P Carter for the BBC Rock Show last night, starts around 1h10 minutes mark :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06nmx5p#play (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06nmx5p#play)
So they finished mixing, now mastering. They are close to get album title.
And... they will try to play new song on Wembley!!! I hope it's true.
Stupid question, but what's the difference between mixing and mastering? Yay, progress finally! I really hope they play a new song in the UK, it'll be an awesome show.
Mixing is putting all the recorded parts together, adding effects, fades, equalizers, etc. while mastering is basically putting on the finishing touches like setting an equal volume between songs and so on
Quote from: ANattyRat on Nov 09, 2015, 08:37 PM
Quote from: Raswid on Nov 09, 2015, 06:54 PM
Quote from: Brice on Nov 09, 2015, 06:03 PM
Short interview with Chino by Daniel P Carter for the BBC Rock Show last night, starts around 1h10 minutes mark :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06nmx5p#play (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06nmx5p#play)
So they finished mixing, now mastering. They are close to get album title.
And... they will try to play new song on Wembley!!! I hope it's true.
Stupid question, but what's the difference between mixing and mastering? Yay, progress finally! I really hope they play a new song in the UK, it'll be an awesome show.
Mixing is applying effects to individual sounds and mastering is when you affect the entire song. http://www.fixyourmix.com/mixing-vs-mastering/ (http://www.fixyourmix.com/mixing-vs-mastering/)
Maybe it's too early for a new song in the next Paris shows ?
Quote from: Diplo on Nov 10, 2015, 06:55 AM
Maybe it's too early for a new song in the next Paris shows ?
We'll see on Saturday ;-)
Hope they will play it.
Does anyone have new Kerrang #1595? There's something about Deftones should be there. Please share if you have it already.
http://www.kerrang.com/37935/k1595-pvris-out-of-the-darkness-a-rock-phenomenon/ (http://www.kerrang.com/37935/k1595-pvris-out-of-the-darkness-a-rock-phenomenon/)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/K1595s.jpg)
Full size (1820x1200) here: http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftones%20-%20K1595.jpg (http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftones%20-%20K1595.jpg)
Thank you Deftfan!
Looks like its from the Diamond Eyes era
It seems that it's really from the latest Kerrang
http://www.theprp.com/2015/11/20/news/chino-moreno-reveals-deftones-most-profitable-song-confirms-hes-a-justin-bieber-fan/ (http://www.theprp.com/2015/11/20/news/chino-moreno-reveals-deftones-most-profitable-song-confirms-hes-a-justin-bieber-fan/)
Pic is 2010 indeed....
Bieber...just...just...SERIOUSLY????
At least I'm not the only one who appreciates corny music.
Is this Nuno they are talking about? Nuno, did you give them razors? I remember that we gave them shirts in like 2001?
https://soundcloud.com/revolver-magazine-1/episode-15-deftones-soilwork
Deftones: 6:41 - 12:35
Portugal fan: 10:17
Bieber fan? I knew it...
It's just..just...BIEBER?!?!?!
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NEW interview with Andrew Bennett by https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite, (https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite,)
before of the world-premiere the real, uncut, director's final version movie - "ENTERTAIN me: A FILM ABOUT DEFTONES".
The interview was done on December 24-25, 2015 by deftfan & gottsu via internet. We created a graphic that pleasant to read :)
download link to full-high reslotiuon image (2977x1250) on FB:
direct link: https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/photos/a.1076104919075944.1073741828.1076065609079875/1105192892833813/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/photos/a.1076104919075944.1073741828.1076065609079875/1105192892833813/?type=3&theater)
or via https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite (https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite)
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New Kerrang! article/interview with Chino (Janaury 2, 2016)
brought to you by https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite (https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite) :)
direct link & FULL SIZE image download (910x1236):
https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/photos/a.1076104919075944.1073741828.1076065609079875/1110173342335768/?type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/photos/a.1076104919075944.1073741828.1076065609079875/1110173342335768/?type=1&theater)
Nice to hear that there'll be darker-sounding songs on this album. I know he can't be completely trusted when he gives details of the album, but the fact that he admitted that Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan are quite optimistic-sounding albums means he can hear the difference in the new album. Cool, I'm very excited about that.
Good read, thanks for sharing!
I almost feel like Chino calling the new album "dreary" is a subtle jab at fans who complain that DE and KNY weren't dark enough.
Quote from: Inkblades on Jan 05, 2016, 11:06 PM
I almost feel like Chino calling the new album "dreary" is a subtle jab at fans who complain that DE and KNY weren't dark enough.
+1
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/InterviewWithAndrewBennett20160116small.jpg)
NEW interview with Andrew Bennett for facebook.com/defzonesite (by deftfan)!
Important information about the movie and whole confusion connected with release "ENTERTAIN ME..."
This short interview with Andrew Bennett was done in 16 January, 2016.
Here is link to DOWNLOAD FULL SIZE IMAGE (1200x1697):
https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/posts/1116540618365707? (https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/posts/1116540618365707?)
https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/photos/a.1093600133993089.1073741840.1076065609079875/1116540618365707/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/photos/a.1093600133993089.1073741840.1076065609079875/1116540618365707/?type=3&theater)
Quote from: deftfan on Jan 16, 2016, 10:01 AM
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/InterviewWithAndrewBennett20160116small.jpg)
NEW interview with Andrew Bennett for facebook.com/defzonesite (by deftfan)!
Important information about the movie and whole confusion connected with release "ENTERTAIN ME..."
This short interview with Andrew Bennett was done in 16 January, 2016.
Here is link to DOWNLOAD FULL SIZE IMAGE (1200x1697):
https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/posts/1116540618365707? (https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/posts/1116540618365707?)
https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/photos/a.1093600133993089.1073741840.1076065609079875/1116540618365707/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/photos/a.1093600133993089.1073741840.1076065609079875/1116540618365707/?type=3&theater)
that image is straight out of the 90's man. go easy on the strokes and drop shadow. thanks though great info
haha yeah took me back a bit too, had wordart flashbacks, good info though
also don't get why all of these interviews are being processed through photoshop, but interesting nonetheless
Quote from: wheresmysnare on Jan 16, 2016, 10:45 AM
that image is straight out of the 90's man. go easy on the strokes and drop shadow. thanks though great info
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Jan 16, 2016, 10:54 AM
haha yeah took me back a bit too, had wordart flashbacks, good info though
thanks guys for advice! I see now...too much photoshop on last one interview :( i will try make next better :)
Quote from: Penicks on Jan 16, 2016, 11:40 AM
also don't get why all of these interviews are being processed through photoshop, but interesting nonetheless
i made 2 interviews and it seems to me that it's better when you get all in one picture...
it looks better than only text ::)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/InterviewWithAbe-TerazRockMarch2003small.jpg)
INTERVIEW WITH ABE from polish rock magazine "Teraz Rock"(March, 2003)
Something very special for all people who like Deftones and our site:
facebook.com/defzonesite (translated from Polish to English language)
https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/photos/a.1093600133993089.1073741840.1076065609079875/1117214454964990/?type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/photos/a.1093600133993089.1073741840.1076065609079875/1117214454964990/?type=3)
I hope that this looks better ::)
it does, good job
Quote from: deftfan on Jan 17, 2016, 04:21 PM
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/InterviewWithAbe-TerazRockMarch2003small.jpg)
INTERVIEW WITH ABE from polish rock magazine "Teraz Rock"(March, 2003)
Something very special for all people who like Deftones and our site:
facebook.com/defzonesite (translated from Polish to English language)
https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/photos/a.1093600133993089.1073741840.1076065609079875/1117214454964990/?type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/photos/a.1093600133993089.1073741840.1076065609079875/1117214454964990/?type=3)
I hope that this looks better ::)
The interview mentions Seattle being a depressing place during winter, which was the same feeling in Conneticut. Maybe Deftones shouldn't write during the winter as it doesn't stimulate them well enough..
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New "Kerrang!" article with small note about Deftones (January 30, 2016)
brought to you by: https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite (https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite)
Chino is in Germany right now doing promo for the new record
https://instagram.com/p/BBSuGAMhlI7/
http://www.theprp.com/2016/02/09/news/deftones-chino-moreno-shares-soundtrack-of-his-life-finds-coldplay/ (http://www.theprp.com/2016/02/09/news/deftones-chino-moreno-shares-soundtrack-of-his-life-finds-coldplay/)
FUCK COLDPLAY
Quote from: kurtone on Feb 09, 2016, 05:38 PM
http://www.theprp.com/2016/02/09/news/deftones-chino-moreno-shares-soundtrack-of-his-life-finds-coldplay/ (http://www.theprp.com/2016/02/09/news/deftones-chino-moreno-shares-soundtrack-of-his-life-finds-coldplay/)
Always love hearing him talk about music. I clearly remember watching interviews with him when I was young, and realizing I could listen to whatever...artist, band or genre...and just find things I like. If it wasn't for Deftones, I wouldn't be into so, so many styles of music.
And I laughed loudly at his Coldplay comments hahah
Anyone have the new Kerrang yet?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BBoBAXjnaBO/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BBoBAXjnaBO/)
Quote from: elite54 on Feb 11, 2016, 12:22 AM
Anyone have the new Kerrang yet?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BBoBAXjnaBO/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BBoBAXjnaBO/)
http://uploaded.net/file/7ariy8so (http://uploaded.net/file/7ariy8so)
Quote from: luisch on Feb 12, 2016, 12:03 PM
Quote from: elite54 on Feb 11, 2016, 12:22 AM
Anyone have the new Kerrang yet?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BBoBAXjnaBO/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BBoBAXjnaBO/)
http://uploaded.net/file/7ariy8so (http://uploaded.net/file/7ariy8so)
did anyone else get a spyware warning for that
Quote from: Freedomsoldier17 on Feb 12, 2016, 02:36 PM
Quote from: luisch on Feb 12, 2016, 12:03 PM
Quote from: elite54 on Feb 11, 2016, 12:22 AM
Anyone have the new Kerrang yet?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BBoBAXjnaBO/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BBoBAXjnaBO/)
http://uploaded.net/file/7ariy8so (http://uploaded.net/file/7ariy8so)
did anyone else get a spyware warning for that
Yeah, it's .exe file, not pdf.
Is a .pdf, check your antivirus software
(http://i.imgur.com/nZHb1cZ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/wKj5Ok9.jpg)
Real size
Pag 1 (http://i.imgur.com/V9FmGnS.jpg) Pag 2 (http://i.imgur.com/idZeeGk.jpg)
Thank you luisch!!!
Things that jumped out at me in that interview were him saying it's their most electronic and that Acid Hologram sounds big and not heavy. I'm getting the feeling that most of these songs will sound big but I think it will be less heavy than the records before it. This isn't necessarily a bad thing. I just want one good heavy song. This is 2016. Deftones aren't going to release Adrenaline 2.0.
Quote from: Sicario on Feb 12, 2016, 03:56 PM
Things that jumped out at me in that interview were him saying it's their most electronic [...]
He said it's their most eclectic, not electronic ;)
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Feb 12, 2016, 03:59 PM
Quote from: Sicario on Feb 12, 2016, 03:56 PM
Things that jumped out at me in that interview were him saying it's their most electronic [...]
He said it's their most eclectic, not electronic ;)
Well shit! I was reading fast at work. Disregard my oversight!
Haha, interesting that the title track is his least favorite. I'm also glad to hear him say they were deliberately trying to depart from DE and KNY, especially in the sense that they chose to abandon the need to infuse the album with positive vibes. I'm all about positivity and optimism, but if I'm honest neither are what I've come to expect from, or look for, in Deftones albums. I think he kind of hit the nail on the head--the last two albums didn't feel as provocative to me due to that innate positivity and optimism. A concerted effort to move away from both the feel and the recording process of the last two albums is definitely welcomed by me. It's also promising to me to heat Chino say he's still listening to the album constantly, and that the album feels fragmented but very cohesive at the same time. Hyped.
Weird that Gore is his least favourite, but then again, it's all about preference. He didn't say it was a bad song, after all. Acid Hologram must sound quite different then, I'm interested to hear it, but I imagine there's quite a few songs on there that are like that. Exciting stuff, I'm definitely ready to hear the album. Prayers/Triangles just being an in-the-middle, typical Deftones song, more or less, is good news, too. This isn't them experimenting or pushing boundaries, that's for the other songs.
Chino also described the color of the record as pink, purple and red.
The latter (red) might be a reference to the Chuck snippets.
Quote from: Capt Snow on Feb 13, 2016, 12:16 AM
Chino also described the color of the record as pink, purple and red.
The latter (red) might be a reference to the Chuck snippets.
how would you even come to that conclusion?
Quote from: sharinglungs on Feb 13, 2016, 09:57 AM
Quote from: Capt Snow on Feb 13, 2016, 12:16 AM
Chino also described the color of the record as pink, purple and red.
The latter (red) might be a reference to the Chuck snippets.
how would you even come to that conclusion?
The Chuck snippets had a reddish painting of Buddha if I recall corectly.
Quote from: Capt Snow on Feb 13, 2016, 11:41 AM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Feb 13, 2016, 09:57 AM
Quote from: Capt Snow on Feb 13, 2016, 12:16 AM
Chino also described the color of the record as pink, purple and red.
The latter (red) might be a reference to the Chuck snippets.
how would you even come to that conclusion?
The Chuck snippets had a reddish painting of Buddha if I recall corectly.
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nice username.
http://www.acast.com/someonewhoisntme/episode1-chinomoreno?seek=0&autoplay=true (http://www.acast.com/someonewhoisntme/episode1-chinomoreno?seek=0&autoplay=true)
Quote from: luisch on Feb 16, 2016, 01:45 PM
http://www.acast.com/someonewhoisntme/episode1-chinomoreno?seek=0&autoplay=true (http://www.acast.com/someonewhoisntme/episode1-chinomoreno?seek=0&autoplay=true)
thank you luisch. A great and fresh interview.
Well now I'm super excited. According to that interviewer, he talks about how the album is very dark lyrically, and expresses how some songs are pretty heavy if he's comparing the sounds to Meshuggah and other Metal bands.
awesome interview man...has me practically drooling for the album release
I am trying to search for the interview mentioning how Jerry Cantrell appeared as a guest on Phantom bride. Can anyone link it, please?
Quote from: snw9 on Feb 19, 2016, 11:49 AM
I am trying to search for the interview mentioning how Jerry Cantrell appeared as a guest on Phantom bride. Can anyone link it, please?
on daniel p carter's new podcast
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/interviews/deftones_guitarist_and_co-founder_stephen_carpenter_talks_to_ug_i_didnt_want_to_play_on_the_new_record.html?no_takeover (https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/interviews/deftones_guitarist_and_co-founder_stephen_carpenter_talks_to_ug_i_didnt_want_to_play_on_the_new_record.html?no_takeover)
Seems like Stephen isn't particularly fond of the new record, or at least the direction they were going in. Let's hope there are still some cool ideas from him on the new album. The editor's note at the end of the article sounds promising, though
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Feb 20, 2016, 02:54 PM
Seems like Stephen isn't particularly fond of the new record, or at least the direction they were going in. Let's hope there are still some cool ideas from him on the new album. The editor's note at the end of the article sounds promising, though
I agree. The note at the end was the silver lining. Still it kind of sucked to read that Stephen feels like the band is leaving him and his ideas behind and going off in a different direction.
Yeah it does :(
hope the band could be less chino and more stef, it would be very fucked up if stef decide to quit the band, but seriously that's a big possibility.
Crap, that interview is worrying, especially when he said about the band leaving him. Why can't they just let him use his own ideas more? I mean, we're only getting his side, of course, and I'm assuming (and hoping) that he had at least some input into the album (hence the heavy and aggressive parts). But it seems like the rest of the band wants to focus more on the beauty, polished aspect of things, where Steph wants to get heavier or something. But it seems uncool if they're basically outnumbering him and forcing him to not be passionate and happy about the music being made. Although he did say 'at first', so it seems like he at least has come around to it.
Man, I hope he doesn't leave the band or anything, but it sounds like it's possible, if not probable :\
Well, I mean he does say he'll never leave the band so I wouldn't be overly concerned about that.
There have been creative differences for a long time and the albums have never been anything other than great so I don't see why that won't be the case for Gore. It is jarring to read him admit their differences the way he has done there though.
Quote from: LG95 on Feb 20, 2016, 04:16 PM
Well, I mean he does say he'll never leave the band so I wouldn't be overly concerned about that.
There have been creative differences for a long time and the albums have never been anything other than great so I don't see why that won't be the case for Gore. It is jarring to read him admit their differences the way he has done there though.
The wording seems like he's saying he won't leave the band he started, the mindset they were in, etc., but the band is moving away from him and becoming almost a completely different band. Either way, I hope they resolve things and I hope Steph can have more say in the direction they take on the next album, because he seems to have been taking a backseat for quite a while now.
It came to my mind that if the band isn't going to play Phantom Bride live and can't afford Jerry Cantrell, it won't be a single. Making a song mainstream although you can't have it played live seems like a poor commercial strategy. I'm really beginning to doubt the rumors that it will be Single #2.
Quote from: Reichward on Feb 21, 2016, 11:58 AM
It came to my mind that if the band isn't going to play Phantom Bride live and can't afford Jerry Cantrell, it won't be a single. Making a song mainstream although you can't have it played live seems like a poor commercial strategy. I'm really beginning to doubt the rumors that it will be Single #2.
Leathers & Mein
Edit: not disagreeing about it being a poor commercial strategy, but it hasn't stopped them before.
Quote from: Shadow46/2 on Feb 21, 2016, 04:42 PM
Quote from: Reichward on Feb 21, 2016, 11:58 AM
It came to my mind that if the band isn't going to play Phantom Bride live and can't afford Jerry Cantrell, it won't be a single. Making a song mainstream although you can't have it played live seems like a poor commercial strategy. I'm really beginning to doubt the rumors that it will be Single #2.
Leathers & Mein
Edit: not disagreeing about it being a poor commercial strategy, but it hasn't stopped them before.
If the song is appealing and sells, why not make it a single to boost sales? I am sure someone or Steph can pull off the solo. There is always a way.
Quote from: Shadow46/2 on Feb 21, 2016, 04:42 PM
Quote from: Reichward on Feb 21, 2016, 11:58 AM
It came to my mind that if the band isn't going to play Phantom Bride live and can't afford Jerry Cantrell, it won't be a single. Making a song mainstream although you can't have it played live seems like a poor commercial strategy. I'm really beginning to doubt the rumors that it will be Single #2.
Leathers & Mein
Edit: not disagreeing about it being a poor commercial strategy, but it hasn't stopped them before.
Leathers was actually played live a couple times early on. Chino soon realized it was too hard to sing and they stopped playing it after only a few times.
Quote from: snw9 on Feb 21, 2016, 07:50 PM
Quote from: Shadow46/2 on Feb 21, 2016, 04:42 PM
Quote from: Reichward on Feb 21, 2016, 11:58 AM
It came to my mind that if the band isn't going to play Phantom Bride live and can't afford Jerry Cantrell, it won't be a single. Making a song mainstream although you can't have it played live seems like a poor commercial strategy. I'm really beginning to doubt the rumors that it will be Single #2.
Leathers & Mein
Edit: not disagreeing about it being a poor commercial strategy, but it hasn't stopped them before.
If the song is appealing and sells, why not make it a single to boost sales? I am sure someone or Steph can pull off the solo. There is always a way.
can and will are different things. stef wont do it.
judging from his chugga chugganess of the past two albums and his own words, it's safe to say that he's not going to do anything
Weed lmao
I'm sure Warner Brothers, and the rest of the band, are very impressed with this interview (sarcasm). I wouldn't be surprised if Stephen get in trouble after this interview. But I respect a man that says things how he sees it, no bullshit. But honestly, it's not the first time i hear Stephen being unhappy about the path deftones are taking, and if I remember well, Steph didn't feel great about White Pony too (my fav deftones album). Personally, I think Stephen has been the weakest link creatively for deftones for quite a while, and his influences aren't really my cup of tea, so honestly for me this is good news.
But I think it's a dumb move from him to talk negatively about his own band album before its release.
It must suck so bad to be ousted out of the band you created. i hate to say it but everyone knows he's been slacking off for a while now which sucks because he's a great part of the band. maybe chi's death had a negative impact in him this way. who knows.
Quote from: guizz on Feb 22, 2016, 04:01 PM
I'm sure Warner Brothers, and the rest of the band, are very impressed with this interview (sarcasm). I wouldn't be surprised if Stephen get in trouble after this interview. But I respect a man that says things how he sees it, no bullshit. But honestly, it's not the first time i hear Stephen being unhappy about the path deftones are taking, and if I remember well, Steph didn't feel great about White Pony too (my fav deftones album). Personally, I think Stephen has been the weakest link creatively for deftones for quite a while, and his influences aren't really my cup of tea, so honestly for me this is good news.
But I think it's a dumb move from him to talk negatively about his own band album before its release.
Absolutely agree. I'm not going to bash Steph because he's made some of my absolute favorite riffs of all time. I personally feel like he hasn't really done anything special during the last 2 records. Almost like he's held them back. This is completely my opinion but to me has hasn't created a riff even close to BQAD or MOS since he left the 6 string . I really feel like he wrote his heaviest and best riffs on the 6 and I really miss that.
Last thing I'm gonna say. How great could Rosemary have been? Steph could have stepped it up but instead we have this boring repeating riff that goes on forever. I hope he proves me wrong on this record and writes awesome riffs on the 8. His work on Prayers seems pretty interesting to me!
Bands split up all the time because of "creative differences". Hes been playing with the same guys since 88. Maybe he had other plans and things started to go south (for him) musically. I can understand, I mean, hes the metal head in the band after all, and they are getting softer in the last few years. (And I'm not complaining, I just think Stef is the one who prolly want a little more of the old tunes, and thats just a guess anyway...).
But again, maybe he was just venting some things from his mind. I agree with guizz, it was a terrible place to do it though, in a magazine where everyone can read and freak out.
Quote from: Far away on Feb 23, 2016, 03:56 AM
Bands split up all the time because of "creative differences". Hes been playing with the same guys since 88. Maybe he had other plans and things started to go south (for him) musically. I can understand, I mean, hes the metal head in the band after all, and they are getting softer in the last few years. (And I'm not complaining, I just think Stef is the one who prolly want a little more of the old tunes, and thats just a guess anyway...).
But again, maybe he was just venting some things from his mind. I agree with guizz, it was a terrible place to do it though, in a magazine where everyone can read and freak out.
Bands to split up all the time, but not Deftones. The same members since forever, minus Chi, but that's not the same thing, of course. Hopefully they can find a way to make everyone happy, because based on what Steph said, it sounds like he's got the least say in the direction they go.
That said, he's the only person in a band, who is (presumably) passionate about music, that I've ever heard talk about music the way he has. Almost like he doesn't even want to be a better guitarist or expand on his playing, that he's happy not being that good, technically, and doesn't want to even really bother experimenting. Very odd.
http://www.tonedeaf.com.au/472230/that-time-deftones-threatened-to-shoot-frenzal-rhomb-at-big-day-out.htm (http://www.tonedeaf.com.au/472230/that-time-deftones-threatened-to-shoot-frenzal-rhomb-at-big-day-out.htm)
Apparently Chino doesn't like the d-word being taken in vain!
Quote from: ANattyRat on Feb 23, 2016, 04:47 AM
Quote from: Far away on Feb 23, 2016, 03:56 AM
Bands split up all the time because of "creative differences". Hes been playing with the same guys since 88. Maybe he had other plans and things started to go south (for him) musically. I can understand, I mean, hes the metal head in the band after all, and they are getting softer in the last few years. (And I'm not complaining, I just think Stef is the one who prolly want a little more of the old tunes, and thats just a guess anyway...).
But again, maybe he was just venting some things from his mind. I agree with guizz, it was a terrible place to do it though, in a magazine where everyone can read and freak out.
Bands to split up all the time, but not Deftones. The same members since forever, minus Chi, but that's not the same thing, of course. Hopefully they can find a way to make everyone happy, because based on what Steph said, it sounds like he's got the least say in the direction they go.
Yeah, I hope you are right. I didnt to mean to say they would break up, but who knows? Stef sounded a little... frustrated (?!).
Quote from: ANattyRat on Feb 23, 2016, 04:47 AM
That said, he's the only person in a band, who is (presumably) passionate about music, that I've ever heard talk about music the way he has. Almost like he doesn't even want to be a better guitarist or expand on his playing, that he's happy not being that good, technically, and doesn't want to even really bother experimenting. Very odd
It's funny how he does not give a fuck about getting better, lol.
The part that stood out to me about Stephs interview was the part that he says they have issues and he doesn't want to leave home. That whole paragraph just kinda sounded weird to me. maybe the Paris events shook him up more than he shows cause he's always a pretty happy guy. Just my 2 cents.
Quote from: ANattyRat on Feb 23, 2016, 04:47 AM
Quote from: Far away on Feb 23, 2016, 03:56 AM
Bands split up all the time because of "creative differences". Hes been playing with the same guys since 88. Maybe he had other plans and things started to go south (for him) musically. I can understand, I mean, hes the metal head in the band after all, and they are getting softer in the last few years. (And I'm not complaining, I just think Stef is the one who prolly want a little more of the old tunes, and thats just a guess anyway...).
But again, maybe he was just venting some things from his mind. I agree with guizz, it was a terrible place to do it though, in a magazine where everyone can read and freak out.
Bands to split up all the time, but not Deftones. The same members since forever, minus Chi, but that's not the same thing, of course. Hopefully they can find a way to make everyone happy, because based on what Steph said, it sounds like he's got the least say in the direction they go.
That said, he's the only person in a band, who is (presumably) passionate about music, that I've ever heard talk about music the way he has. Almost like he doesn't even want to be a better guitarist or expand on his playing, that he's happy not being that good, technically, and doesn't want to even really bother experimenting. Very odd.
IMO ever since Stef went +6 strings his play has just plateaued, he goes for the super low end sound rather than pushing himself riff-wise, he still pulls out some good stuff here and there but I miss the ole' days where you had those super memorable riffs (like MOS and Passenger). And he has had endless issues with his tone since then as well. He shoulda just kept the 6 strings and the Line 6/Marshall set up he had.
Quote from: Far away on Feb 23, 2016, 05:13 PM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Feb 23, 2016, 04:47 AM
That said, he's the only person in a band, who is (presumably) passionate about music, that I've ever heard talk about music the way he has. Almost like he doesn't even want to be a better guitarist or expand on his playing, that he's happy not being that good, technically, and doesn't want to even really bother experimenting. Very odd
It's funny how he does not give a fuck about getting better, lol.
he seemed in a better mood here though:
http://www.infinitelooper.com/?v=Rqj4vPDyVSI&p=n#/219;262 (http://www.infinitelooper.com/?v=Rqj4vPDyVSI&p=n#/219;262)
i always prefered stephen based songs like the entire adrenaline record, feiticeira,korea,passenger,bloody cape etc. but when stef hasn't been practicing his guitar, and only been deep into tone,gear and whatnot, maybe chino and sergio is all for stef's metal ideas, it's just that the ideas suck?
Quote from: from_musings on Feb 24, 2016, 11:33 AM
i always prefered stephen based songs like the entire adrenaline record, feiticeira,korea,passenger,bloody cape etc. but when stef hasn't been practicing his guitar, and only been deep into tone,gear and whatnot, maybe chino and sergio is all for stef's metal ideas, it's just that the ideas suck?
I don't actually believe he's been deep into getting his tone dialed in just right. That's mostly an excuse for being lazy (420blazer).
Granted, I've only heard three songs from the new album, so I could be missing the songs that showcase his tonal effort.
Quote from: downtownpony on Feb 25, 2016, 03:01 AM
Quote from: from_musings on Feb 24, 2016, 11:33 AM
i always prefered stephen based songs like the entire adrenaline record, feiticeira,korea,passenger,bloody cape etc. but when stef hasn't been practicing his guitar, and only been deep into tone,gear and whatnot, maybe chino and sergio is all for stef's metal ideas, it's just that the ideas suck?
I don't actually believe he's been deep into getting his tone dialed in just right. That's mostly an excuse for being lazy (420blazer).
Granted, I've only heard three songs from the new album, so I could be missing the songs that showcase his tonal effort.
and which songs have you heard?
Quote from: from_musings on Feb 24, 2016, 11:33 AM
i always prefered stephen based songs like the entire adrenaline record, feiticeira,korea,passenger,bloody cape etc. but when stef hasn't been practicing his guitar, and only been deep into tone,gear and whatnot, maybe chino and sergio is all for stef's metal ideas, it's just that the ideas suck?
I think stefs minamlist style used to work but now he plays 200 string guitars it's just a thick treacle-like overly processed mess.
For me his riffs worked best when they cut through the mix, raspy sounding guitars, with a high end. You could hear his riffs better and it didn't matter that they were simple, they stood out more and held their own.
Chino playing ping pong recently (like today or yesterday, probably): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AS76tMO0y0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AS76tMO0y0)
Quote from: xToxin on Mar 01, 2016, 01:16 AM
Chino playing ping pong recently (like today or yesterday, probably): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AS76tMO0y0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AS76tMO0y0)
that could be better placed on the bullshit deftones topic, what a fucking shitty video.
with his apple watch on
My god, what are you PMS'ing dude? Talk about an overreaction
PING PONG GET SOME
FRENCH MAG ;D
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/171873IMG20160301162239.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=171873IMG20160301162239.jpg)
LOVE PARIS !!!!!!
New interview with chino and Stephen. Pretty in depth on the instruments side of things, writing the new album, etc.
http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/23895 (http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/23895)
Quote from: RavinVsFlud on Mar 10, 2016, 06:28 PM
New interview with chino and Stephen. Pretty in depth on the instruments side of things, writing the new album, etc.
http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/23895 (http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/23895)
Quite evident from the interview, Chino is not a fan of the 8-string
Quote from: snw9 on Mar 10, 2016, 09:02 PM
Quote from: RavinVsFlud on Mar 10, 2016, 06:28 PM
New interview with chino and Stephen. Pretty in depth on the instruments side of things, writing the new album, etc.
http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/23895 (http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/23895)
Quite evident from the interview, Chino is not a fan of the 8-string
Nope. The way he spoke about how he and Sergio try to fill the space though, sounds like he thinks it works well within the band because it doesn't sound like it does in bands where they just have the 8-string. Like they bring out more sound and more layers, so he doesn't necessarily hate it within the context of the band's music. But who knows?
That was a great read! They were very detailed about their gear. I loved hearing that and how they went into details about the recording process. I'm kinda shocked chino was hating on the 8 string. I think it probably just intimidates him as a guitarist/vocalist as they are harder to play cleanly because of the 2 extra strings and to be able to hold the neck; let alone play one and sing at the same time. I'm glad Stephen has his tones right, now he can focus on playing.
QuoteLike now, if I just had to play the songs, I know I can just play them. And if I had to just sing them, I know I can sing them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhEazx6Ptpk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhEazx6Ptpk)
hhhhhmmmmmmmmm...
these guys have perfected their sound during their second, third and fourth album, please stop tinkering with it
the guitars sound like motorboats now, thanks stephen
or should we thanks everyone who is not terry date
Quote from: RavinVsFlud on Mar 10, 2016, 06:28 PM
New interview with chino and Stephen. Pretty in depth on the instruments side of things, writing the new album, etc.
http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/23895 (http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/23895)
inspired me to start listening to Animals as Leaders. this band is dope so far
Quote from: RavinVsFlud on Mar 10, 2016, 06:28 PM
New interview with chino and Stephen. Pretty in depth on the instruments side of things, writing the new album, etc.
http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/23895 (http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/23895)
Chino's Knaggs guitar is one of the most beautiful guitars I have ever seen, holy shit
Quote from: sing blue silver on Mar 11, 2016, 01:10 AM
QuoteLike now, if I just had to play the songs, I know I can just play them. And if I had to just sing them, I know I can sing them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhEazx6Ptpk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhEazx6Ptpk)
hhhhhmmmmmmmmm...
He meant if he just had to play the guitar he could do it, and if he just had to sing it, he could do it. Doing both at the same time is the part he's saying he's got to practice more for.
"if he don't like it, we don't play"
... oh boy.
stephens tone is always glorious, the diamond eyes record is the last time he used his marshall rig and you can hear it, its like ATF with 8 string guitars, there's no reason to bitch, he's been doing the same exact thing since the beginning, just at different octaves.
Quote from: Sicario on Feb 20, 2016, 02:41 PM
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/interviews/deftones_guitarist_and_co-founder_stephen_carpenter_talks_to_ug_i_didnt_want_to_play_on_the_new_record.html?no_takeover (http://www.sharinglungs.com/news/interviews/deftones_guitarist_and_co-founder_stephen_carpenter_talks_to_ug_i_didnt_want_to_play_on_the_new_record.html?no_takeover)
Damn that's some expert level passive aggressiveness right there.
Totally unprofessional move, if you're not happy leave the band, don't stay for the cash and talk shit about the product you're about to put out into a marketplace. Weak weak weak, I'd be incensed if I were his bandmates.
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Mar 11, 2016, 12:20 PM
Quote from: RavinVsFlud on Mar 10, 2016, 06:28 PM
New interview with chino and Stephen. Pretty in depth on the instruments side of things, writing the new album, etc.
http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/23895 (http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/23895)
Chino's Knaggs guitar is one of the most beautiful guitars I have ever seen, holy shit
yeah I thought the same, never seen one of those before.
Quote from: Korea Rounding on Mar 11, 2016, 09:03 PM
Quote from: Sicario on Feb 20, 2016, 02:41 PM
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/interviews/deftones_guitarist_and_co-founder_stephen_carpenter_talks_to_ug_i_didnt_want_to_play_on_the_new_record.html?no_takeover (http://www.sharinglungs.com/news/interviews/deftones_guitarist_and_co-founder_stephen_carpenter_talks_to_ug_i_didnt_want_to_play_on_the_new_record.html?no_takeover)
Damn that's some expert level passive aggressiveness right there.
Totally unprofessional move, if you're not happy leave the band, don't stay for the cash and talk shit about the product you're about to put out into a marketplace. Weak weak weak, I'd be incensed if I were his bandmates.
I agree. Pretty unprofessional on his part. He isn't getting his own way in terms of every song being played on an open low bass string on his 8 string guitar so he's whining about it. Some of those songs sound cool but some of them also suck. Deftones do a good job balancing that stuff. I wouldn't want that stuff on every single song. It gets stupid sometimes.
Yeah Stephs most interesting riffs haven't been his recent ones,I still like his playing but he's just not going outside the box anymore, there's just a lack of experimentation in his riffs and tone, he's got his comfort zone but it seems he maybe stagnating in it, really wish he would actually just work on his playing like he keeps saying he wants to, I feel like he's got more to offer than what he's doing now.
Quote from: Korea Rounding on Mar 11, 2016, 09:03 PM
Quote from: Sicario on Feb 20, 2016, 02:41 PM
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/interviews/deftones_guitarist_and_co-founder_stephen_carpenter_talks_to_ug_i_didnt_want_to_play_on_the_new_record.html?no_takeover (http://www.sharinglungs.com/news/interviews/deftones_guitarist_and_co-founder_stephen_carpenter_talks_to_ug_i_didnt_want_to_play_on_the_new_record.html?no_takeover)
Damn that's some expert level passive aggressiveness right there.
Totally unprofessional move, if you're not happy leave the band, don't stay for the cash and talk shit about the product you're about to put out into a marketplace. Weak weak weak, I'd be incensed if I were his bandmates.
It's a bit passive-aggressive but I don't think it's much of an attack or anything. He was laughing during that interview, it's not something he's currently upset about, he's just being honest, and so is Chino. They've obviously been doing this for quite a while now, and I think they know each other well enough that they don't take it personally. Chino said he didn't like the 8-string, but that wasn't an attack either. Stephen doesn't say he hates the music, he said it took him a while to get into it. He's not in it for the money, he just wants more creative input than what he currently gets.
Quote from: 2MoreHours on Mar 11, 2016, 10:12 PM
Quote from: Korea Rounding on Mar 11, 2016, 09:03 PM
Quote from: Sicario on Feb 20, 2016, 02:41 PM
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/interviews/deftones_guitarist_and_co-founder_stephen_carpenter_talks_to_ug_i_didnt_want_to_play_on_the_new_record.html?no_takeover (http://www.sharinglungs.com/news/interviews/deftones_guitarist_and_co-founder_stephen_carpenter_talks_to_ug_i_didnt_want_to_play_on_the_new_record.html?no_takeover)
Damn that's some expert level passive aggressiveness right there.
Totally unprofessional move, if you're not happy leave the band, don't stay for the cash and talk shit about the product you're about to put out into a marketplace. Weak weak weak, I'd be incensed if I were his bandmates.
I agree. Pretty unprofessional on his part. He isn't getting his own way in terms of every song being played on an open low bass string on his 8 string guitar so he's whining about it. Some of those songs sound cool but some of them also suck. Deftones do a good job balancing that stuff. I wouldn't want that stuff on every single song. It gets stupid sometimes.
You've gone to the extreme end of the spectrum for no reason. He didn't say he wanted every song played his way, he was saying that if Chino doesn't like it, they don't play it. So basically, if Stephen has an idea for a song he enjoys but Chino doesn't like it for whatever reason (too heavy, too metal, whatever), it gets thrown out. Which must suck, you know? He's not saying his ideas never survive the creation process, just that the final say is down to Chino. It's OK for band members to want more of a say in the music they make. It doesn't mean he wants complete control.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Mar 11, 2016, 11:55 PM
Yeah Stephs most interesting riffs haven't been his recent ones,I still like his playing but he's just not going outside the box anymore, there's just a lack of experimentation in his riffs and tone, he's got his comfort zone but it seems he maybe stagnating in it, really wish he would actually just work on his playing like he keeps saying he wants to, I feel like he's got more to offer than what he's doing now.
What he's playing on the Doomed User verses is pretty different, though. Riff- and tonewise.
all that matters is that what he does is constantly and consistently good and it is.
Yeah well it is pretty lacking. On songs like YSTB, CMND/CTRL, and even Doomed User. He just uses that top string way too much.
why did you just now decide to bitch? there were 8 other albums to whine about the fact he's not EVH.
Quote from: Yoi Yes Kokan on Mar 12, 2016, 02:01 AM
why did you just now decide to bitch? there were 8 other albums to whine about the fact he's not EVH.
Loud mouth motherfucker...swallow a dick nigga.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Mar 11, 2016, 11:55 PM
Yeah Stephs most interesting riffs haven't been his recent ones,I still like his playing but he's just not going outside the box anymore, there's just a lack of experimentation in his riffs and tone, he's got his comfort zone but it seems he maybe stagnating in it, really wish he would actually just work on his playing like he keeps saying he wants to, I feel like he's got more to offer than what he's doing now.
I agree, he did mention that he had nothing to prove and didn't want to go all over the fret board in some interview. I guess now is his opportunity to step it up.
Quote from: shine down unshy on Mar 12, 2016, 03:12 AM
Quote from: Yoi Yes Kokan on Mar 12, 2016, 02:01 AM
why did you just now decide to bitch? there were 8 other albums to whine about the fact he's not EVH.
Loud mouth motherfucker...swallow a dick nigga.
keep with that old 777 clique.
dont call me nigger, whitey.
Quote from: snw9 on Mar 12, 2016, 04:04 AM
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Mar 11, 2016, 11:55 PM
Yeah Stephs most interesting riffs haven't been his recent ones,I still like his playing but he's just not going outside the box anymore, there's just a lack of experimentation in his riffs and tone, he's got his comfort zone but it seems he maybe stagnating in it, really wish he would actually just work on his playing like he keeps saying he wants to, I feel like he's got more to offer than what he's doing now.
I agree, he did mention that he had nothing to prove and didn't want to go all over the fret board in some interview. I guess now is his opportunity to step it up.
Yeah I don't expect solos just use the range an 8 string provides a for a better effect, the chugging riffs are cool but I like it when they're offset with some contrasting riffs higher up the register,I get Chino kind of provides that but I feel like those low heavy riffs lose there impact when they're so consistently present.
Quote from: Yoi Yes Kokan on Mar 11, 2016, 03:22 PM
stephens tone is always glorious, the diamond eyes record is the last time he used his marshall rig and you can hear it, its like ATF with 8 string guitars, there's no reason to bitch, he's been doing the same exact thing since the beginning, just at different octaves.
Maybe but in the range he's in now it lacks definition, when your higher up you can stay on the low strings and get a good mix of bottom end weight and higher notes cutting through, it's fine to go lower but I feel like you need to adjust your playing to keep the balance between bottom end boom and the higher frequencies that gives you some edge.
Quote from: DeftonesNZ on Mar 12, 2016, 07:12 AM
Quote from: Yoi Yes Kokan on Mar 11, 2016, 03:22 PM
stephens tone is always glorious, the diamond eyes record is the last time he used his marshall rig and you can hear it, its like ATF with 8 string guitars, there's no reason to bitch, he's been doing the same exact thing since the beginning, just at different octaves.
Maybe but in the range he's in now it lacks definition, when your higher up you can stay on the low strings and get a good mix of bottom end weight and higher notes cutting through, it's fine to go lower but I feel like you need to adjust your playing to keep the balance between bottom end boom and the higher frequencies that gives you some edge.
yep it sounds like his guitar sound is pumped out through a vat of syrup.
Quote from: ANattyRat on Mar 12, 2016, 12:35 AM
He was laughing during that interview
source? where can i hear this laughter
Quote from: ANattyRat on Mar 12, 2016, 12:35 AM
Quote from: Korea Rounding on Mar 11, 2016, 09:03 PM
Quote from: Sicario on Feb 20, 2016, 02:41 PM
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/interviews/deftones_guitarist_and_co-founder_stephen_carpenter_talks_to_ug_i_didnt_want_to_play_on_the_new_record.html?no_takeover (http://www.sharinglungs.com/news/interviews/deftones_guitarist_and_co-founder_stephen_carpenter_talks_to_ug_i_didnt_want_to_play_on_the_new_record.html?no_takeover)
Damn that's some expert level passive aggressiveness right there.
Totally unprofessional move, if you're not happy leave the band, don't stay for the cash and talk shit about the product you're about to put out into a marketplace. Weak weak weak, I'd be incensed if I were his bandmates.
It's a bit passive-aggressive but I don't think it's much of an attack or anything. He was laughing during that interview, it's not something he's currently upset about, he's just being honest, and so is Chino. They've obviously been doing this for quite a while now, and I think they know each other well enough that they don't take it personally. Chino said he didn't like the 8-string, but that wasn't an attack either. Stephen doesn't say he hates the music, he said it took him a while to get into it. He's not in it for the money, he just wants more creative input than what he currently gets.
Quote from: 2MoreHours on Mar 11, 2016, 10:12 PM
Quote from: Korea Rounding on Mar 11, 2016, 09:03 PM
Quote from: Sicario on Feb 20, 2016, 02:41 PM
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/interviews/deftones_guitarist_and_co-founder_stephen_carpenter_talks_to_ug_i_didnt_want_to_play_on_the_new_record.html?no_takeover (http://www.sharinglungs.com/news/interviews/deftones_guitarist_and_co-founder_stephen_carpenter_talks_to_ug_i_didnt_want_to_play_on_the_new_record.html?no_takeover)
Damn that's some expert level passive aggressiveness right there.
Totally unprofessional move, if you're not happy leave the band, don't stay for the cash and talk shit about the product you're about to put out into a marketplace. Weak weak weak, I'd be incensed if I were his bandmates.
I agree. Pretty unprofessional on his part. He isn't getting his own way in terms of every song being played on an open low bass string on his 8 string guitar so he's whining about it. Some of those songs sound cool but some of them also suck. Deftones do a good job balancing that stuff. I wouldn't want that stuff on every single song. It gets stupid sometimes.
You've gone to the extreme end of the spectrum for no reason. He didn't say he wanted every song played his way, he was saying that if Chino doesn't like it, they don't play it. So basically, if Stephen has an idea for a song he enjoys but Chino doesn't like it for whatever reason (too heavy, too metal, whatever), it gets thrown out. Which must suck, you know? He's not saying his ideas never survive the creation process, just that the final say is down to Chino. It's OK for band members to want more of a say in the music they make. It doesn't mean he wants complete control.
I understood that the balance between Chino's songs and Steph's songs was attained on Diamond Eyes and Eros (based on the older interviews of Chino mentioning he played less guitar). It's great to hear Chino's input on the tracks however I don't think he should be taking the lead all the time. The chemistry of Diamond eyes was great, some songs were heavy however featured clean vocals (Risk, Diamond Eyes, Prince, 976-evil) and more aggressive (Rocket skates, CMD/CTRL, Royal). On KNY, its quite evident that Chino took more control.
the next album should have 12 songs, 6 Chino and 6 Steph. No arguments, everyones' input is heard and no feeling of being "left out."
Quote from: snw9 on Mar 15, 2016, 03:23 AM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Mar 12, 2016, 12:35 AM
Quote from: Korea Rounding on Mar 11, 2016, 09:03 PM
Quote from: Sicario on Feb 20, 2016, 02:41 PM
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/interviews/deftones_guitarist_and_co-founder_stephen_carpenter_talks_to_ug_i_didnt_want_to_play_on_the_new_record.html?no_takeover (http://www.sharinglungs.com/news/interviews/deftones_guitarist_and_co-founder_stephen_carpenter_talks_to_ug_i_didnt_want_to_play_on_the_new_record.html?no_takeover)
Damn that's some expert level passive aggressiveness right there.
Totally unprofessional move, if you're not happy leave the band, don't stay for the cash and talk shit about the product you're about to put out into a marketplace. Weak weak weak, I'd be incensed if I were his bandmates.
It's a bit passive-aggressive but I don't think it's much of an attack or anything. He was laughing during that interview, it's not something he's currently upset about, he's just being honest, and so is Chino. They've obviously been doing this for quite a while now, and I think they know each other well enough that they don't take it personally. Chino said he didn't like the 8-string, but that wasn't an attack either. Stephen doesn't say he hates the music, he said it took him a while to get into it. He's not in it for the money, he just wants more creative input than what he currently gets.
Quote from: 2MoreHours on Mar 11, 2016, 10:12 PM
Quote from: Korea Rounding on Mar 11, 2016, 09:03 PM
Quote from: Sicario on Feb 20, 2016, 02:41 PM
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/interviews/deftones_guitarist_and_co-founder_stephen_carpenter_talks_to_ug_i_didnt_want_to_play_on_the_new_record.html?no_takeover (http://www.sharinglungs.com/news/interviews/deftones_guitarist_and_co-founder_stephen_carpenter_talks_to_ug_i_didnt_want_to_play_on_the_new_record.html?no_takeover)
Damn that's some expert level passive aggressiveness right there.
Totally unprofessional move, if you're not happy leave the band, don't stay for the cash and talk shit about the product you're about to put out into a marketplace. Weak weak weak, I'd be incensed if I were his bandmates.
I agree. Pretty unprofessional on his part. He isn't getting his own way in terms of every song being played on an open low bass string on his 8 string guitar so he's whining about it. Some of those songs sound cool but some of them also suck. Deftones do a good job balancing that stuff. I wouldn't want that stuff on every single song. It gets stupid sometimes.
You've gone to the extreme end of the spectrum for no reason. He didn't say he wanted every song played his way, he was saying that if Chino doesn't like it, they don't play it. So basically, if Stephen has an idea for a song he enjoys but Chino doesn't like it for whatever reason (too heavy, too metal, whatever), it gets thrown out. Which must suck, you know? He's not saying his ideas never survive the creation process, just that the final say is down to Chino. It's OK for band members to want more of a say in the music they make. It doesn't mean he wants complete control.
I understood that the balance between Chino's songs and Steph's songs was attained on Diamond Eyes and Eros (based on the older interviews of Chino mentioning he played less guitar). It's great to hear Chino's input on the tracks however I don't think he should be taking the lead all the time. The chemistry of Diamond eyes was great, some songs were heavy however featured clean vocals (Risk, Diamond Eyes, Prince, 976-evil) and more aggressive (Rocket skates, CMD/CTRL, Royal). On KNY, its quite evident that Chino took more control.
the next album should have 12 songs, 6 Chino and 6 Steph. No arguments, everyones' input is heard and no feeling of being "left out."
Lol this guy thinks he's a band member
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Sorry for the shit translation but that's the best Google could do.
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Sounds like Pittura and Doomed User are gonna be heavy fast songs while Hearts/Wires is going to be their biggest moment of the album, the "Passenger" of Gore.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Mar 15, 2016, 12:12 PM
Sorry for the shit translation but that's the best Google could do.
(improvement of the text) :
"Recently an Ultimate guitar interview spread with deftones guitarist stef carpenter, where he said he initially did not want to play on gore,when he heard the ideas his colleagues had. immediately that statement was interpreted as he hates the album and is on the way out of the band. if one read further than the headline you understood that what stef meant was that he found it difficult to agree with the direction of "gore", but finally succeeded. And when you listen to the result, it is actually carpenter that impresses the most. In songs like "Pittura Infamante" and"Doomed User" he shows up a new found love to riff, something that hasn't been heard since around the fur.
Biggest moment on the album is "Hearts/Wires". the guitarists input in the lengthy, ambient intro is nothing short of magic.
It then characterizes the main song, which mood is reminiscent of the classic "passenger" from white pony.
Speaking of guitar playing, lot of talking up until gore has been Alice in chains-man Jerry Cantrell's guest appearance in "Phantom Bride".
The track itself is a beautiful piece with a melancholic easy autumn feel to it. Cantrell's sparse melancholy guitar solo emerges as a central figure in the middle of the song, steals focus, and then exits. it does not sound like he had been able to do it in AIC, nor anything Deftones had fixed on their own. it is something completely unique that has been developed for the purpose.
Otherwise? the album has an airier, more dreamy atmosphere than its two immediate predecessors, and I keep my fingers crossed that Gore surpasses both. the band is challenging itself and tests new approaches/roads in some songs.
Something so doomey as "Acid Hologram" - they have never done before. and "(L)MIRL" sounds like the soundtrack to a psychological thriller.
Constant is the dim, the dark tone, which runs like a red thread through the songs. possible straggly/incoherence, in spite of all the experimentation, is effectively prevented and a true masterpiece is a fact."
i love doomey shits.
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 15, 2016, 01:28 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Mar 15, 2016, 12:12 PM
Sorry for the shit translation but that's the best Google could do.
Something so doomey as "Acid Hologram" - they have never done before. and "(L)MIRL" sounds like the soundtrack to a psychological thriller.
Constant is the dim, the dark tone, which runs like a red thread through the songs. possible straggly/incoherence, in spite of all the experimentation, is effectively prevented and a true masterpiece is a fact."
Oh yes, that's ecactly what I want to hear. Sounds like we get quite a diverse range of moods in these songs. Doomy? Psychological thriller? Dark tone? All getting me very excited. God, I can't wait for this album. Thanks for the translation.
QuoteIn songs like "Pittura Infamante" and"Doomed User" he shows up a new found love to riff, something that hasn't been heard since around the fur.
[spoiler](http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/072/768/d5c.png)[/spoiler]
Dark tones, experimentation, riffing Stef hasn't done since ATF... They seem to have tackled a lot of things a lot of you have been complaining about on Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan. Like the music wasn't dark enough and Stephen was just using his bottom string and didn't came up with anything experimental anymore.
Still, I'm hundred percent sure that the usual people on here who are the most vocal about their hate towards the direction they were going with their previous albums still find an excuse to completely hate on the new record, just for the sake of it. Fuck you guys in advance.
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 15, 2016, 01:28 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Mar 15, 2016, 12:12 PM
Sorry for the shit translation but that's the best Google could do.
(improvement of the text) :
"Recently an Ultimate guitar interview spread with deftones guitarist stef carpenter, where he said he initially did not want to play on gore,when he heard the ideas his colleagues had. immediately that statement was interpreted as he hates the album and is on the way out of the band. if one read further than the headline you understood that what stef meant was that he found it difficult to agree with the direction of "gore", but finally succeeded. And when you listen to the result, it is actually carpenter that impresses the most. In songs like "Pittura Infamante" and"Doomed User" he shows up a new found love to riff, something that hasn't been heard since around the fur.
Biggest moment on the album is "Hearts/Wires". the guitarists input in the lengthy, ambient intro is nothing short of magic.
It then characterizes the main song, which mood is reminiscent of the classic "passenger" from white pony.
Speaking of guitar playing, lot of talking up until gore has been Alice in chains-man Jerry Cantrell's guest appearance in "Phantom Bride".
The track itself is a beautiful piece with a melancholic easy autumn feel to it. Cantrell's sparse melancholy guitar solo emerges as a central figure in the middle of the song, steals focus, and then exits. it does not sound like he had been able to do it in AIC, nor anything Deftones had fixed on their own. it is something completely unique that has been developed for the purpose.
Otherwise? the album has an airier, more dreamy atmosphere than its two immediate predecessors, and I keep my fingers crossed that Gore surpasses both. the band is challenging itself and tests new approaches/roads in some songs.
Something so doomey as "Acid Hologram" - they have never done before. and "(L)MIRL" sounds like the soundtrack to a psychological thriller.
Constant is the dim, the dark tone, which runs like a red thread through the songs. possible straggly/incoherence, in spite of all the experimentation, is effectively prevented and a true masterpiece is a fact."
"Otherwise? the album has an airier, more dreamy atmosphere than its two immediate predecessors, and I keep my fingers crossed that Gore surpasses both." Sounds like good news for SNW fans.
Acid Hologram: Doomey yet heavy sonically (According to Chino). I have a gut feeling Acid Hologram is the second snippet from the Chuck Doom instagram mashup.
excuse me i am form el salvador and have some problems with some words , when they said airee ?¿ , or heavy , i get confuse
heavy will be for me something like slipknot or something with a lot of screaming , but i prefer an album with a dark tone but not heavy maybe for example HITE , so overall how do you think this album is going to be ???
Quote from: jciraheta on Mar 15, 2016, 03:18 PM
excuse me i am form el salvador and have some problems with some words , when they said airee ?¿ , or heavy , i get confuse
heavy will be for me something like slipknot or something with a lot of screaming , but i prefer an album with a dark tone but not heavy maybe for example HITE , so overall how do you think this album is going to be ???
Airier doesn't mean heavy but soft with melodic tunes. Heavy could be very noisy or like slipknot with lots of distortion.
I'd say Prayers/Triangles fits that description pretty well. the heavier parts come in during the bridge.
so if overall the album is gonig to be like PT i thing i am going to like it alot , of course there will be some variations, but i think that is type o def son that i personally like , o even slower ... slow songs with heavy parts :)
Quote from: jciraheta on Mar 15, 2016, 04:23 PM
so if overall the album is gonig to be like PT i thing i am going to like it alot , of course there will be some variations, but i think that is type o def son that i personally like , o even slower ... slow songs with heavy parts :)
it's not going to be like P/T. We've been told P/T is a weaker song from the album.
I'm so excited... Every interview where the interviewer has heard the music starts describing songs has made me more pumped than the one before it. I can't fucking wait... I said it months ago when we first started hearing just a couple clips, and I'll say it again, this will be my favorite album since ST. I can just feel it. And this isn't normal for me, I didn't have this sort of expectation with DE or KNY... Everything just seems right in its place with this one.
since when has stef done anything but play power chords? and if he hasn't been riffing since ATF, what have you been enjoying for the other 5 albums in between that?
Lol, yeah, no riffs since Around The Fur.......what instrument has Steph been playing since ATF, a xylophone?!?
It sever said that Stef had not composed any riffs since ATF. Remember that the interview was poorly translated. What it means is that it's his best riffs since ATF.
Edit: meant "translated", not "traduced".
in whos opinion? true that whole album was testosterone from beginning to end but there was no best riff from him on that album, he had better riffs on white pony and self titled and these last two.
fuckin relax. it's a terrible translation, it could mean anything as different dialects have different meanings for the way things are said.
QuoteIn songs like "Pittura Infamante" and"Doomed User" he shows up a new found love to riff, something that hasn't been heard since around the fur.
That to me sounds like he's got some heavy/fast chunky riffs that we're going to love. Nowhere does it say that he hasn't composed any riffs since around the fur.
Quote from: whitefur on Mar 15, 2016, 06:12 PM
Lol, yeah, no riffs since Around The Fur.......what instrument has Steph been playing since ATF, a xylophone?!?
you must be retard.
Quote from: Reichward on Mar 15, 2016, 06:21 PM
It sever said that Stef had not composed any riffs since ATF. Remember that the interview was poorly traduced. What it means is that it's his best riffs since ATF.
yup.it says that stef shows up a rediscovered love for riffing away. the reviewer means that he hasn't heard that kind of passion for riffs since atf.
something like that. the text was improved, not perfect by any means :)
Deftones at SXSW tonight.. I wonder if we'll get Doomed User/P/T in better quality?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdnnCcJUkAAkG_k.jpg)
feeling that album bout to leak .....
http://imgur.com/a/qB4Sn (http://imgur.com/a/qB4Sn)
Chino interview from MyRock magazine. Sorry for the quality, hope it's at least readable if you zoom in. Start from the bottom, and the magazine's short review of the album is in there too. My French is limited but I did my best to translate to English, took me a few hours so enjoy, anyone can correct me if they want.
Chino, is this the first time you have come to Paris since the Bataclan attacks?
Yes, and I am very happy to be back here. Very touched too, because my previous trip ended with infinite sadness. As you know, we had to give three concerts at the Bataclan, the day after the attack. Some of us were also at the concert with Eagles Of Death Metal, but fortunately they left before the first shots. We have all been shocked and we think Paris needs time to heal its wounds. For this reason we canceled our tour. We have also not played live since. But we will come back, I promise. There is already the Download Festival concert, but we will also schedule other things, probably in September. We have so many wonderful memories here, i want more than ever to maintain this relation with Paris and Parisians.
Yes, we remember the photos you posted on social networks when you last came with the Catacombs, the Eiffel Tower ... A real tourist!
Haha, that's true. Your country has a long history, it fascinates me. Whenever I am in Europe, I realise in some way America is young. When I travel here, I want to see the wealth of your heritage, I go to museums, I wander in the small streets, I wander in the popular areas... The last time I also visited The Palace of Versailles. I spent a whole day, to examine all the paintings and woodwork. The hardest thing was to slalom between those damned selfie sticks. It was very weird, instead of looking at the works, the tourists take the stage and take photos. Me, I haven't taken any pictures. I just stood there, soaking up the place and registering all the images in my head. This is also something I do not understand in the world of today. Instead of living the experience thoroughly, people prefer to do that through their phone.
This has unfortunately become a norm, especially in concert ...
Everyone wants their photo memories. But a picture can never replace the experience of living... I am forty-two years old, I am a generation that has not grown up with a phone in the palm of the hand. I realize now that it was a real chance to fully experience things firsthand. I understand the desire to immortalize a concert with a photo, but just one. Otherwise, open your eyes and let yourself be carried away by the moment. In ten years, when you remember that time, you will have many other details that will rise to the surface, like the smells, the atmosphere, the sounds ... All that a photo can't reproduce! This is also something that I like about music. When I listen to the music from my adolescence, 80's stuff like Duran Duran, Depeche Mode ... there are all the memories of the era coming back to me instantly in my mind, as if I was there again.
What has inspired the album title "Gore"?
It is one of those words that are overwhelmed by their meaning. It is, in a way, a provocative word that triggers certain images. It has almost become a vulgarity. But at the same time, I found it interesting to play with and to bring out some form of beauty. It's a process that I discovered by way of The Smiths, with the song "Paint A Vulgar Picture". Not that it is my favorite track, but I have always been fascinated by the way in which Morrissey succeeded in changing the meaning of the word "vulgar" to give it an almost tender side. The idea was also to superimpose the brutality of "Gore" with the beauty of the artwork, which represents flamingos in flight. The colours are very elegant, with pink, purple, violet, gray...
Did you approach writing in a different way for this record?
Oh yes! Before, we set a goal defined in time, something like "we have three months to make the album." This time, we decided to take our time, let the songs ripen and not to rush ourselves. This album is much more thought through, we took care to dwell on each detail. We all met together in a small studio, from 12:00 to 18:00, for ten days. Then everyone went home, because we all live in different cities now. We stood back for a few weeks, and then we would meet for another session of ten days... And we continue like that until it is completed, which has taken a year and a half! But it was worth it, because we have slowly built a different universe for each song. There are a lot of contrasts on this album.
Where has it been recorded?
Music in Los Angeles, but I did the vocals not very far from home, in a small studio lost in the mountains of Oregon.
You don't live in Los Angeles anymore?
No, I moved from there three years ago. I live in the countryside now. I changed, I don't like to be in L.A. anymore, I feel alone. I'm in the middle of the mountains, it's so soothing. I have become very sensitive to nature. I always had this futuristic vision of me, old single man who lives in a shack in the woods. I think this is beginning to materialize (laughs). You can not imagine how much I'm not the same man. At the beginning of Deftones, I was kind of insomniac, linking the sleepless nights and partying overnight. Today I wake up early in the morning, I go to breathe fresh air, I am wandering in nature... I do not regret anything, but now I am a happy man. And at peace.
It is felt on the album. For while it is undeniably heavy, with intense moments of tension, it soars from one end to the other with a sense of quietude, something positive.
Exactly. I think it faithfully reflects who we are today, in our respective lives. We obviously draw our strength in the ambient aggressiveness, because we are sensitive to what is happening in the world but, at the same time we try to move towards the light, to keep a glimmer of hope. And that's really what emerges from this album. There's beauty inside. The music has, like life, a succession of emotions, ups and downs. And because right now we are doing well in our shoes, this shows on the album. And then, you know, we very quickly realized that we would never be the most technical musicians in the world. So to counterbalance this, we stake everything on the emotions.
What are the themes that you approach on this record?
Nothing concrete. The more time passes, the more I see music as an abstract art. It is a way to transport me, to escape myself, to visit unknown lands. I have no story to tell, I use the words as if they were colors. It's very unconscious, very visual too. And sometimes, I enjoy a red herring. When the themes seem too personal, too easy to understand, in these cases I try to make them more blurred, the meanings more blurred.
On "Acid Hologram", you seem to have fun with the rapid advances and flashbacks.
It was an unconventional way and very challenging to approach writing. It's about the feeling of being totally disconnected sometimes from reality and moving on a different path from the rest of the world. This is probably my favourite song on the album. The psyche is a great thing. And, you know what, this track was composed by Sergio.
Sergio has managed to make his mark?
Yes, he's a great guy. He did a great job on "Diamond Eyes", but he was still shy. In retrospect, I am well aware that the situation was hard to manage for him. To replace someone who is in a coma, without really being fully part of the group... It was delicate, he didn't really dare to affirm himself. It took him time. But now he is really part of us, he brings us a lot.
On the excellent "Phantom Bride", you can hear a guitar solo. This is a first for Deftones!
Yes. The song had been completed, but I found it was missing something. I sent it to Jerry Cantrell, asking him if he felt like playing the solo. It's something we have never done before. Already because I don't know how to play, and also because Stephen does not like it too much. Jerry, who is a very good friend and a great musician, came into the studio and he recorded it in minutes. I think it is one of the highlights of the album, it brings a new dynamic to our music, just as Maynard James Keenan had done on "Passenger" in the era of "White Pony".
Speaking of Jerry Cantrell, it is fun to see how Alice In Chains and Deftones have this same tendency to challenge labels. Alice In Chains has nothing to do with the grunge of its beginnings, like Deftones has nothing to do with nu metal.
It's very interesting what you say. I never thought about it, but it explains why I have always felt connected with the music of Alice In Chains. They have managed to build their own identity, and I think that's what we managed to do. I understand why we were classed as a nu metal group, in our beginnings. There were similarities. But we have always fought to distinguish ourselves and distance ourselves, not just from nu metal, but from all other genres. So much so that today there is no other group like Deftones. Just as there is no other Alice In Chains. This is our greatest success.
In the past, you talked about your interest in the dream pop of the 80's, and more particularly of Cocteau Twins. It is an influence that is felt in the first song, "Prayers/Triangles", with guitar reverberations that rest perfectly on your vocals.
I believe this group will influence me for eternity (laughs). When it is repeated and I hear a note full of guitar reverb, I scream "yes, that is it, we have a trick!" (laughs). Each time, this kind of sound reminds me of my adolescence. Today, with my guitair I use an effects pedal Boss Dimension C, which was precisely that used by the Cocteau Twins and all other groups of the time.
And then there's "Hearts/Wires", certainly the most ambitious song on the album. You had already juggled dark, trippy atmospheres, but here it is almost Pink Floyd!
Oh I love this song! This is one of the first songs we worked on for this record. It has a particular flavor, very 70's, somewhere between Pink Floyd and Fleetwood Mac. It was not easy to work on this piece, especially because Stephen always hated it. I remember when we started working on it, the songs were rotated again and again, and Stephen put himself in a corner, crossing his arms. I said: "Stephen, can you come play with us please?". And he remained sulking like a spoiled child, he kept: "I don't like it, I don't like it at all." And I'd say, "Trust me, in a few months you will be sitting in the mix room, with the headphones on, and tell me how this song is great." And you know what? This is exactly what happened (laughs). He can be very stubborn, and sometimes can really clash with us. But it has always been the case, that's why there are these towering contrasts in our music. The worst part was at the time of "White Pony". It comes to hating everything that is proposed to one another. But rather than seek to annihilate the adverse ideas, we always try to ensure that we absorb them. We are like two brothers, we can fight fiercely, but we always ended up reconciling.
Even if Chino Moreno is busy with Deftones, he does not forget his other projects. He gives us some trails:
About Crosses, the guys are in the process of writing new songs as we speak. This project is all about fun and I hope we can seriously reactivate all this next year. As for Team Sleep, we have many, many, many songs. We even have enough to release an album, I just need to find the time to record the vocals.
Album review:
In counterpoint to "Diamond Eyes", which played immediately the front of the card, Deftones exposes all its melodic verve here. From the start of the album, "Prayers / Triangles" casts its soft dream pop reverberations, perfectly keyed to the singing of Chino. And even when he writes in the red, the singer does here with more contained resentment, less visceral. Rather than shout from one end to the other, he plays with effects like so many contrasts (the schizophrenic "Geometric Headress"). Above all, "Gore" confirms all the progressive talent of the Californians, the best when it comes to building atmopheres. You'd swear you hear Pink Floyd on the orbital "Hearts And Wires" or some post-rock resurgences arise in the guitar layers of "Rubicon". On the aerial "Phantom Bride", the band even allows guest Jerry Cantrell to hit a solo, a first in the history of the group! Such is "Gore": Deftones at their most raw, Deftones at their most beautiful.
Thomas Mafrouche
18.5 / 20
Quote from: sooniletugo on Mar 16, 2016, 03:38 AM
http://imgur.com/a/qB4Sn (http://imgur.com/a/qB4Sn)
Chino interview from MyRock magazine. Sorry for the quality, hope it's at least readable if you zoom in. Start from the bottom, and the magazine's short review of the album is in there too. My French is limited but I did my best to translate to English, took me a few hours so enjoy, anyone can correct me if they want.
Thanks for the translation, man, a lot of awesome info :)
Quote from: sooniletugo on Mar 16, 2016, 03:38 AM
http://imgur.com/a/qB4Sn (http://imgur.com/a/qB4Sn)
Chino interview from MyRock magazine. Sorry for the quality, hope it's at least readable if you zoom in. Start from the bottom, and the magazine's short review of the album is in there too. My French is limited but I did my best to translate to English, took me a few hours so enjoy, anyone can correct me if they want.
Chino, is this the first time you have come to Paris since the Bataclan attacks?
Yes, and I am very happy to be back here. Very touched too, because my previous trip ended with infinite sadness. As you know, we had to give three concerts at the Bataclan, the day after the attack. Some of us were also at the concert with Eagles Of Death Metal, but fortunately they left before the first shots. We have all been shocked and we think Paris needs time to heal its wounds. For this reason we canceled our tour. We have also not played live since. But we will come back, I promise. There is already the Download Festival concert, but we will also schedule other things, probably in September. We have so many wonderful memories here, i want more than ever to maintain this relation with Paris and Parisians.
Yes, we remember the photos you posted on social networks when you last came with the Catacombs, the Eiffel Tower ... A real tourist!
Haha, that's true. Your country has a long history, it fascinates me. Whenever I am in Europe, I realise in some way America is young. When I travel here, I want to see the wealth of your heritage, I go to museums, I wander in the small streets, I wander in the popular areas... The last time I also visited The Palace of Versailles. I spent a whole day, to examine all the paintings and woodwork. The hardest thing was to slalom between those damned selfie sticks. It was very weird, instead of looking at the works, the tourists take the stage and take photos. Me, I haven't taken any pictures. I just stood there, soaking up the place and registering all the images in my head. This is also something I do not understand in the world of today. Instead of living the experience thoroughly, people prefer to do that through their phone.
This has unfortunately become a norm, especially in concert ...
Everyone wants their photo memories. But a picture can never replace the experience of living... I am forty-two years old, I am a generation that has not grown up with a phone in the palm of the hand. I realize now that it was a real chance to fully experience things firsthand. I understand the desire to immortalize a concert with a photo, but just one. Otherwise, open your eyes and let yourself be carried away by the moment. In ten years, when you remember that time, you will have many other details that will rise to the surface, like the smells, the atmosphere, the sounds ... All that a photo can't reproduce! This is also something that I like about music. When I listen to the music from my adolescence, 80's stuff like Duran Duran, Depeche Mode ... there are all the memories of the era coming back to me instantly in my mind, as if I was there again.
What has inspired the album title "Gore"?
It is one of those words that are overwhelmed by their meaning. It is, in a way, a provocative word that triggers certain images. It has almost become a vulgarity. But at the same time, I found it interesting to play with and to bring out some form of beauty. It's a process that I discovered by way of The Smiths, with the song "Paint A Vulgar Picture". Not that it is my favorite track, but I have always been fascinated by the way in which Morrissey succeeded in changing the meaning of the word "vulgar" to give it an almost tender side. The idea was also to superimpose the brutality of "Gore" with the beauty of the artwork, which represents flamingos in flight. The colours are very elegant, with pink, purple, violet, gray...
Did you approach writing in a different way for this record?
Oh yes! Before, we set a goal defined in time, something like "we have three months to make the album." This time, we decided to take our time, let the songs ripen and not to rush ourselves. This album is much more thought through, we took care to dwell on each detail. We all met together in a small studio, from 12:00 to 18:00, for ten days. Then everyone went home, because we all live in different cities now. We stood back for a few weeks, and then we would meet for another session of ten days... And we continue like that until it is completed, which has taken a year and a half! But it was worth it, because we have slowly built a different universe for each song. There are a lot of contrasts on this album.
Where has it been recorded?
Music in Los Angeles, but I did the vocals not very far from home, in a small studio lost in the mountains of Oregon.
You don't live in Los Angeles anymore?
No, I moved from there three years ago. I live in the countryside now. I changed, I don't like to be in L.A. anymore, I feel alone. I'm in the middle of the mountains, it's so soothing. I have become very sensitive to nature. I always had this futuristic vision of me, old single man who lives in a shack in the woods. I think this is beginning to materialize (laughs). You can not imagine how much I'm not the same man. At the beginning of Deftones, I was kind of insomniac, linking the sleepless nights and partying overnight. Today I wake up early in the morning, I go to breathe fresh air, I am wandering in nature... I do not regret anything, but now I am a happy man. And at peace.
It is felt on the album. For while it is undeniably heavy, with intense moments of tension, it soars from one end to the other with a sense of quietude, something positive.
Exactly. I think it faithfully reflects who we are today, in our respective lives. We obviously draw our strength in the ambient aggressiveness, because we are sensitive to what is happening in the world but, at the same time we try to move towards the light, to keep a glimmer of hope. And that's really what emerges from this album. There's beauty inside. The music has, like life, a succession of emotions, ups and downs. And because right now we are doing well in our shoes, this shows on the album. And then, you know, we very quickly realized that we would never be the most technical musicians in the world. So to counterbalance this, we stake everything on the emotions.
What are the themes that you approach on this record?
Nothing concrete. The more time passes, the more I see music as an abstract art. It is a way to transport me, to escape myself, to visit unknown lands. I have no story to tell, I use the words as if they were colors. It's very unconscious, very visual too. And sometimes, I enjoy a red herring. When the themes seem too personal, too easy to understand, in these cases I try to make them more blurred, the meanings more blurred.
On "Acid Hologram", you seem to have fun with the rapid advances and flashbacks.
It was an unconventional way and very challenging to approach writing. It's about the feeling of being totally disconnected sometimes from reality and moving on a different path from the rest of the world. This is probably my favourite song on the album. The psyche is a great thing. And, you know what, this track was composed by Sergio.
Sergio has managed to make his mark?
Yes, he's a great guy. He did a great job on "Diamond Eyes", but he was still shy. In retrospect, I am well aware that the situation was hard to manage for him. To replace someone who is in a coma, without really being fully part of the group... It was delicate, he didn't really dare to affirm himself. It took him time. But now he is really part of us, he brings us a lot.
On the excellent "Phantom Bride", you can hear a guitar solo. This is a first for Deftones!
Yes. The song had been completed, but I found it was missing something. I sent it to Jerry Cantrell, asking him if he felt like playing the solo. It's something we have never done before. Already because I don't know how to play, and also because Stephen does not like it too much. Jerry, who is a very good friend and a great musician, came into the studio and he recorded it in minutes. I think it is one of the highlights of the album, it brings a new dynamic to our music, just as Maynard James Keenan had done on "Passenger" in the era of "White Pony".
Speaking of Jerry Cantrell, it is fun to see how Alice In Chains and Deftones have this same tendency to challenge labels. Alice In Chains has nothing to do with the grunge of its beginnings, like Deftones has nothing to do with nu metal.
It's very interesting what you say. I never thought about it, but it explains why I have always felt connected with the music of Alice In Chains. They have managed to build their own identity, and I think that's what we managed to do. I understand why we were classed as a nu metal group, in our beginnings. There were similarities. But we have always fought to distinguish ourselves and distance ourselves, not just from nu metal, but from all other genres. So much so that today there is no other group like Deftones. Just as there is no other Alice In Chains. This is our greatest success.
In the past, you talked about your interest in the dream pop of the 80's, and more particularly of Cocteau Twins. It is an influence that is felt in the first song, "Prayers/Triangles", with guitar reverberations that rest perfectly on your vocals.
I believe this group will influence me for eternity (laughs). When it is repeated and I hear a note full of guitar reverb, I scream "yes, that is it, we have a trick!" (laughs). Each time, this kind of sound reminds me of my adolescence. Today, with my guitair I use an effects pedal Boss Dimension C, which was precisely that used by the Cocteau Twins and all other groups of the time.
And then there's "Hearts/Wires", certainly the most ambitious song on the album. You had already juggled dark, trippy atmospheres, but here it is almost Pink Floyd!
Oh I love this song! This is one of the first songs we worked on for this record. It has a particular flavor, very 70's, somewhere between Pink Floyd and Fleetwood Mac. It was not easy to work on this piece, especially because Stephen always hated it. I remember when we started working on it, the songs were rotated again and again, and Stephen put himself in a corner, crossing his arms. I said: "Stephen, can you come play with us please?". And he remained sulking like a spoiled child, he kept: "I don't like it, I don't like it at all." And I'd say, "Trust me, in a few months you will be sitting in the mix room, with the headphones on, and tell me how this song is great." And you know what? This is exactly what happened (laughs). He can be very stubborn, and sometimes can really clash with us. But it has always been the case, that's why there are these towering contrasts in our music. The worst part was at the time of "White Pony". It comes to hating everything that is proposed to one another. But rather than seek to annihilate the adverse ideas, we always try to ensure that we absorb them. We are like two brothers, we can fight fiercely, but we always ended up reconciling.
Even if Chino Moreno is busy with Deftones, he does not forget his other projects. He gives us some trails:
About Crosses, the guys are in the process of writing new songs as we speak. This project is all about fun and I hope we can seriously reactivate all this next year. As for Team Sleep, we have many, many, many songs. We even have enough to release an album, I just need to find the time to record the vocals.
Album review:
In counterpoint to "Diamond Eyes", which played immediately the front of the card, Deftones exposes all its melodic verve here. From the start of the album, "Prayers / Triangles" casts its soft dream pop reverberations, perfectly keyed to the singing of Chino. And even when he writes in the red, the singer does here with more contained resentment, less visceral. Rather than shout from one end to the other, he plays with effects like so many contrasts (the schizophrenic "Geometric Headress"). Above all, "Gore" confirms all the progressive talent of the Californians, the best when it comes to building atmopheres. You'd swear you hear Pink Floyd on the orbital "Hearts And Wires" or some post-rock resurgences arise in the guitar layers of "Rubicon". On the aerial "Phantom Bride", the band even allows guest Jerry Cantrell to hit a solo, a first in the history of the group! Such is "Gore": Deftones at their most raw, Deftones at their most beautiful.
Thomas Mafrouche
18.5 / 20
Nice, thanks...
Thanks for the interview man!
Great view, thanks man
Great read man, thanks for translating!
obrigado
http://rollingstoneindia.com/deftones-exclusive-interview/ (http://rollingstoneindia.com/deftones-exclusive-interview/)
Interview with Chino from the german magazin Fuze.
Too lazy to translate it but to sum it up:
• their creative process is based on Stef and his differences, otherwise Gore would be his solo record
• back in the day they literally used to fight about songs, now they talk it out and see what's best for the song
• compared to Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan they took their time with Gore
• Chino learns from his side projects
(http://i.imgur.com/1P5vfqx.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/jAZzOux.jpg)
Everyone can calm down now.
http://teamrock.com/news/2016-03-17/deftones-stef-buries-split-rumours-that-followed-tense-gore-sessions (http://teamrock.com/news/2016-03-17/deftones-stef-buries-split-rumours-that-followed-tense-gore-sessions)
Quote from: punkflop01 on Mar 17, 2016, 07:19 PM
Everyone can calm down now.
http://teamrock.com/news/2016-03-17/deftones-stef-buries-split-rumours-that-followed-tense-gore-sessions (http://teamrock.com/news/2016-03-17/deftones-stef-buries-split-rumours-that-followed-tense-gore-sessions)
Amen. I don't see why most people overreacted in the first place. He said in that same interview that it took him awhile to get into it. So that means he eventually got into it. Common sense.I don't see what all the uproar was about.
Quote from: punkflop01 on Mar 17, 2016, 07:19 PM
Everyone can calm down now.
http://teamrock.com/news/2016-03-17/deftones-stef-buries-split-rumours-that-followed-tense-gore-sessions (http://teamrock.com/news/2016-03-17/deftones-stef-buries-split-rumours-that-followed-tense-gore-sessions)
I just said the exact same words to a close friend: "now sharing lungs will calm their tits down" lol
Stef is pissed by our shit
Quote from: Reichward on Mar 17, 2016, 11:01 PM
Stef is pissed by our shit
we're atached to a real emotion, he should be more sympathetic about the people who cares and pay his bills.
Quote from: cvthedrv on Mar 17, 2016, 11:54 PM
Quote from: Reichward on Mar 17, 2016, 11:01 PM
Stef is pissed by our shit
we're atached to a real emotion, he should be more sympathetic about the people who cares and pay his bills.
Yeah but he doesn't need to be sympathetic when people overreact to comments he's made. When people start jumping to unnecessary conclusions or start taking sides Chino v Stephen then it's a bit over the top.
Quote from: LG95 on Mar 18, 2016, 12:02 AM
Quote from: cvthedrv on Mar 17, 2016, 11:54 PM
Quote from: Reichward on Mar 17, 2016, 11:01 PM
Stef is pissed by our shit
we're atached to a real emotion, he should be more sympathetic about the people who cares and pay his bills.
Yeah but he doesn't need to be sympathetic when people overreact to comments he's made. When people start jumping to unnecessary conclusions or start taking sides Chino v Stephen then it's a bit over the top.
yes, but i insist, some people are attached to a sort of real emotion then maybe they overreact in a strange way, so it's not just a little thing.
(obviously there's another dumb fuck people who tries to troll and just fail, but that's another tale).
Quote from: cvthedrv on Mar 17, 2016, 11:54 PM
Quote from: Reichward on Mar 17, 2016, 11:01 PM
Stef is pissed by our shit
we're atached to a real emotion, he should be more sympathetic about the people who cares and pay his bills.
hahahaha i know for a fact that some of the people here on SL don't even own one single copy of their albums nor go to their shows but they're the most that bitch and moan all the time.
Quote from: punkflop01 on Mar 17, 2016, 07:19 PM
Everyone can calm down now.
http://teamrock.com/news/2016-03-17/deftones-stef-buries-split-rumours-that-followed-tense-gore-sessions (http://teamrock.com/news/2016-03-17/deftones-stef-buries-split-rumours-that-followed-tense-gore-sessions)
To be fair, he did give the interview and he did say those things. It's not like it was on a gossip site about how 'a source revealed that Steph is unhappy with the new album', you know? It was an interview, and so the things he said worried people because people love this band. But I'm glad he cleared things up.
I agree with him though, as soon as I saw the first interview I said nothing new here, I think his point is that they've talked about the tension in interviews for years now and done things like the songwriting battles video where he explained the dynamic, from his perspective it's frustrating people make drama over it when they have the internet and access to a bunch of resources where the band themselves have explained how the tension between him and Chino works but somehow people seem to be quicker to make dramatic assumptions now than before the internet when they didn't know anything.
Quote from: dawg on Mar 17, 2016, 06:42 PM
Interview with Chino from the german magazin Fuze.
Too lazy to translate it but to sum it up:
• their creative process is based on Stef and his differences, otherwise Gore would be his solo record
• back in the day they literally used to fight about songs, now they talk it out and see what's best for the song
• compared to Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan they took their time with Gore
• Chino learns from his side projects
(http://i.imgur.com/1P5vfqx.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/jAZzOux.jpg)
What is the part about SNW, please?
Quote from: snw9 on Mar 18, 2016, 03:43 PM
What is the part about SNW, please?
The interviewer asks if Chino was on the verge of leaving the band during the SNW writing process. He said it's been the worst period of their career and there was almost no communication between the band members at the time. Basically he needed a break and focused on Team Sleep for a while.
tldr; nothing we don't already know
New Kerrang on Wednesday.. hopefully someone grabs it and scans it
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cd2tCR_XIAM0kb5.jpg)
God, I hate these flashy, obnoxious magazines like Kerrang
This probably makes me sound like an asshole but I really wish magazines/interviews would stop using the whole Chi accident/passing away angle.
Fucking Bushwick Bill. Nice!
http://www.fuse.tv/2016/03/deftones-sxsw-2016 (http://www.fuse.tv/2016/03/deftones-sxsw-2016)
Deftones Rock SXSW, Bring Out Bushwick Bill as Special Guest: Review
An unexpected guest verse from the rapper and some throwback songs made for a memorable set
By Friday afternoon at SXSW 2016, the wear and tear of a few nights well partied wore on the faces of most attendees. It was humid and hot, but that didn't stop hundreds from lining up for Deftones at SPIN Magazine's annual Austin bash at the famed Stubb's downtown.
Half an hour prior to their set, Vince Staples rocked through his own—he was great, but managed to make an aside of "I feel like I'm at a slave auction," remarking on the audience's unenthusiastic demeanor. That negativity dispersed the moment Chino Moreno and crew hit the stage, launching into a career-spanning set.
The Stubb's gig was the band's first set at SXSW, and came ahead of their upcoming album, Gore, which is their first full-length in four years. It hasn't been too long of a wait, but considering the group's consistency, it's enough to make everyone feel anxious with anticipation. In a live setting, that translated to a packed afternoon set, with fans and unfamiliar folk alike beaming with excitement.
A few songs into their set, Geto Boys rapper Bushwick Bill joined the California alt-metal icons. It began with a simple "When I say 'Def,' you say 'Tones,'" chant, later unraveling into a surprise guest verse. Perhaps most endearing was that all of this took place while Deftones played "Digital Bath" from 2000's White Pony. When they say certain things can only happen at SXSW, they mean it.
The entire set comprised of songs both new and old, each with the same level of response from the crowd. When you've been a band as long as Deftones have, you have a lot of material to parse through...it's interesting to see who screams the loudest for what albums. It appeared the diehard fans most enjoyed the White Pony throwbacks, whereas early 20-somethings were in it for the Saturday Night Wrist references.
"Doomed User," the latest Gore track, too, was met with much applause. The band's energy mirrored this—Moreno climbed into the crowd and jumped high on the stage, as everyone else threw their instruments around like they were one of the many young punk bands playing the festival. For them, and for that performance, it was a welcome respite of rock 'n' roll. In Texas, things are bigger...and at this Deftones performance, they were heavier.
"Doomed User," the latest Gore track, too, was met with much applause." - I thought they didn't play that? It's not on that setlist pic at least, and I haven't seen any clips of it online yet.
'The band that changed rock' wow... you guys agree on that?
Lol...it's pretty hyperbolic. However, they are my favorite band of all time and are also perpetually underrated by pretty much everyone, so I don't mind them getting their asses kissed on the cover of a major publication.
Here's the video of Digital Bath with the appearance by Bushwick Bill.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCGsZH2axsY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCGsZH2axsY)
Well, they changed nu-metal or helped redefine it. The entirety of rock though? Nah.
I'd say they're pretty influential for a lot of bands but I wouldn't say their impact has 'changed rock music'.
It's just marketing, don't think too much of it. I bet there are many bands who "changed rock" when it comes to Kerrang's magazine covers.
Quote from: Reichward on Mar 19, 2016, 12:53 PM
It's just marketing, don't think too much of it. I bet there are many bands who "changed rock" when it comes to Kerrang's magazine covers.
In a couple of years they'll probably be saying 5SOS and twenty one pilots have changed rock music. This sort of thing is just their way of trying to appeal to genuine rock fans rather than the bullshit they promote nowadays.
I hate that all these asshole journalists have heard the album and we gotta wait another 3 weeks.
Quote from: sooniletugo on Mar 19, 2016, 06:05 PM
I hate that all these asshole journalists have heard the album and we gotta wait another 3 weeks.
we dont have to wait 3 weeks, it'll leak before April 8th.. maybe next week or the week after.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Mar 19, 2016, 08:38 PM
we dont have to wait 3 weeks, it'll leak before April 8th.. maybe next week or the week after.
I'm predicting it leaks by next weekend
They seem to be doing a good job keeping this one under wraps so far judging by how many advance copies are already out there. I'm gonna say it leaks a week before release or so once physical copies start getting distributed.
Quote from: kurtone on Mar 19, 2016, 08:40 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Mar 19, 2016, 08:38 PM
we dont have to wait 3 weeks, it'll leak before April 8th.. maybe next week or the week after.
I'm predicting it leaks by next weekend
[spoiler](http://znn.fr/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/voyance.jpg)[/spoiler]
http://live105.cbslocal.com/2016/03/19/interview-deftones-talk-gore-at-sxswf/ (http://live105.cbslocal.com/2016/03/19/interview-deftones-talk-gore-at-sxswf/)
Somehow, in their storied career, Deftones haven't played SXSW in Austin, TX. That changed this week as they played several shows in advance of the release of their upcoming album, "Gore".
I sat down with Chino & Sergio to talk about the new album & their SXSW experience.
How's your SXSW been so far?
Chino: It's been a very interesting experience. Lot of last minute things. We came here for the Spin show at Stubb's & that was really the only thing we had planned & last night we did this surprise show in the park & it was super awesome. You know, it's been like flying by the seat of our pants, but it's been good.
People have been telling me that you (Chino) were getting down pretty hard to Badbadnotgood & Ghostface Killah out here earlier this week.
Chino: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. People were talkin'? I've liked Badbadnotgood for a while & it's crazy 'cause I didn't even know they did that record with Ghost & I stumbled upon it one day & was like, "What?" This makes perfect sense to me. I really like this mash-up. I posted about it online, five months ago, or something like that, & people were like, "that's old!" & I was like "I'm sorry, I did not know they did this record." I just went to see Badbadnotgood I didn't even know Ghost was gonna come out.
Sergio: We found out he was coming out & it was like, that's Ghostface Killah! That's legendary. They vibe together so well.
This is probably not Deftones first SXSW.
Chino: You know, we've done it...wait, you know what? This is. I've done it with Crosses, but this is the first time with Deftones.
You're here pushing the upcoming album, "Gore", did you come up with the title of the record first, or after you already had the songs done?
Chino: It's a name of one of the tracks on the record. When looking to name the record, which is always a difficult thing, you have to find something that's supposed to "represent" what the record is. Not that I think that "Gore" actually really does that, but what it does do is stimulate – the word is very descriptive and it carries a lot of...
Sergio: Connotation! & especially juxtaposed with the imagery. We've talked about it a couple times. It's more like expressionism. It's meant to evoke and elicit a response, but it's not liked a coded message, or anything. "Gore" hits on a couple of levels – besides the word and its meaning, it's also the fact that it's four letters & sits on the cover. On a graphic level it's a pretty strong word and it kept rising to the top.
Is there a Deftones summer tour coming?
Chino: We are working on something for the end of summer, which should be announced in the next week, or two.
Should we expect amphitheaters, arenas, or clubs this time around?
Chino: Some will be outdoors, but we're looking at something a little bigger than what we've been doing for a while. Looking to stretch out a bit – try something a little different. We have that & some festivals in Europe. Going to Iceland and places we've never been before.
With festival dates you usually have shorter set lengths. Is it a struggle to figure out what to play when you've got such an extensive catalogue?
Chino: It definitely is difficult to do that. Like today we have a 40-minute set. Looking at the setlist, there's nothing from "Adrenaline" on there, there's nothing from "Saturday Night Wrist" on there, which is never a struggle for me 'cause I hate most of those songs (laughs), there's nothing from "S/T" on there. We're only playing nine songs today.
Sergio: We have the stuff we feel strong about and we'll whittle it down to a list we feel really comfortable with.
You've got to showcase the new stuff too.
Chino: We squeeze a little bit of that in there. We pick the songs we feel like we play well & that we'll vibe out to great today.
One last question – now that you guys have been doing this for so long, is there any advice you'd want to give to your younger selves?
Chino: Wow. You know, I feel like I had to figure this all out in the time doing it & that's part of why I feel we're still here doing it because we had those experiences. There's not like anything I would really change that drastically. I've enjoyed this ride that we've had. It's always been a gradual build from where we started to where we are today. It feels good.
Thank you, guys. We always appreciate you in the Bay Area.
"Chino: It definitely is difficult to do that. Like today we have a 40-minute set. Looking at the setlist, there's nothing from "Adrenaline" on there, there's nothing from "Saturday Night Wrist" on there, which is never a struggle for me 'cause I hate most of those songs (laughs), there's nothing from "S/T" on there. We're only playing nine songs today."
I found this part of the interview interesting, so Chino hates Adrenaline and SNW; even though he rearranged most of the songs on that record. It's because of the tough days they had...
I can't tell his stance on S/T though.
Quote from: snw9 on Mar 20, 2016, 03:09 AM
"Chino: It definitely is difficult to do that. Like today we have a 40-minute set. Looking at the setlist, there's nothing from "Adrenaline" on there, there's nothing from "Saturday Night Wrist" on there, which is never a struggle for me 'cause I hate most of those songs (laughs), there's nothing from "S/T" on there. We're only playing nine songs today."
I found this part of the interview interesting, so Chino hates Adrenaline and SNW; even though he rearranged most of the songs on that record. It's because of the tough days they had...
I can't tell his stance on S/T though.
i think he's "so so" on S/T. for years he didn't care for it that much, but has somewhat warmed up to it lately. the ones he seems most proud of are ATF, WP & diamond eyes (& crosses album if you count side projects. those 4 seem to be his babies)
Quote from: snw9 on Mar 20, 2016, 03:09 AM
"Chino: It definitely is difficult to do that. Like today we have a 40-minute set. Looking at the setlist, there's nothing from "Adrenaline" on there, there's nothing from "Saturday Night Wrist" on there, which is never a struggle for me 'cause I hate most of those songs (laughs), there's nothing from "S/T" on there. We're only playing nine songs today."
I found this part of the interview interesting, so Chino hates Adrenaline and SNW; even though he rearranged most of the songs on that record. It's because of the tough days they had...
I can't tell his stance on S/T though.
That's not what he said at all. Way to take it out of context. He hates SNW, he doesn't hate Adrenaline.
Well, in some interviews, for example in Scuzz interview, Chino said about Adrenaline: "I'm not big fan and never listen to it".
He doesn't like Adrenaline, SNW or S/T... hahahaha By contrast, we love these albums, especially S/T and the dark days.
By the way, greetings to the community.
Quote from: Jimmy_McNulty on Mar 20, 2016, 08:59 AM
Well, in some interviews, for example in Scuzz interview, Chino said about Adrenaline: "I'm not big fan and never listen to it".
He doesn't like Adrenaline, SNW or S/T... hahahaha By contrast, we love these albums, especially S/T and the dark days.
By the way, greetings to the community, I have for years been reading SL.
"ahh Christ! Fucking Daniels"
Quote from: sharinglungs on Mar 20, 2016, 03:40 AM
Quote from: snw9 on Mar 20, 2016, 03:09 AM
"Chino: It definitely is difficult to do that. Like today we have a 40-minute set. Looking at the setlist, there's nothing from "Adrenaline" on there, there's nothing from "Saturday Night Wrist" on there, which is never a struggle for me 'cause I hate most of those songs (laughs), there's nothing from "S/T" on there. We're only playing nine songs today."
I found this part of the interview interesting, so Chino hates Adrenaline and SNW; even though he rearranged most of the songs on that record. It's because of the tough days they had...
I can't tell his stance on S/T though.
That's not what he said at all. Way to take it out of context. He hates SNW, he doesn't hate Adrenaline.
Lol didn't mean to intentionally, at least adrenaline still gets played live regularly.
Chino can hate SNW all he wants. I love it and am glad they made the album. It's one of their top 3 for me.
Gotta love Beware and Cherry Waves.
Quote from: 2MoreHours on Mar 20, 2016, 06:57 PM
Chino can hate SNW all he wants. I love it and am glad they made the album. It's one of their top 3 for me.
Yep me too. When I listen to that album I can just hear how difficult of a time it was for them. And I love that. Absolutely adore Riviere.
I think it's their worst album.
But it's still an 8/10.
Quote from: E-Money on Mar 20, 2016, 07:33 PM
Quote from: 2MoreHours on Mar 20, 2016, 06:57 PM
Chino can hate SNW all he wants. I love it and am glad they made the album. It's one of their top 3 for me.
Yep me too. When I listen to that album I can just hear how difficult of a time it was for them. And I love that. Absolutely adore Riviere.
Not just for the band but chino personally as well. he references drinking/relationship problems a lot in those songs
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Quote from: E-Money on Mar 20, 2016, 07:33 PM
Quote from: 2MoreHours on Mar 20, 2016, 06:57 PM
Chino can hate SNW all he wants. I love it and am glad they made the album. It's one of their top 3 for me.
Yep me too. When I listen to that album I can just hear how difficult of a time it was for them. And I love that. Absolutely adore Riviere.
Not just for the band but chino personally as well. he references drinking/relationship problems a lot in those songs
There are a lot of good songs on that album I'd love to hear live like Rapture, which I don't think was played since 2009? Would be nice to hear Combat (its a dream we experienced once in real life) and more of Kim Dracula. Despite being a troublesome and depressing era, the songs sound great.
no love for snw and adrenaline, he prefers the last justin bieber album.
"I remember when we started working on it, the songs were rotated again and again, and Stephen put himself in a corner, crossing his arms. I said: "Stephen, can you come play with us please?". And he remained sulking like a spoiled child, he kept: "I don't like it, I don't like it at all."
hahaha this is gold..
new beats1 interview
https://mega.co.nz/#!up5XFZTY!KZhADvs2j0rVJxRRBnZeRhz5-2c-ypBL_CUClI0kXjg
Metal Hammer gives Gore a 9 out of 10:
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That original opening song they took off the album is called Crest. Hmmm.
Oh man what a great review. So so so pumped about this album. Still holding out on listening to Doomed User! And i think the fact that the reviewer said that anyone expecting a track like Rocket Skates or Swerve city are in for a disappointment, just means that this album is definitely going to be a grower. I love Diamond Eyes and Koi no Yokan but they were almost instantly gratifying. The reason White Pony, Self Titled and SNW are extra special for me, is because it took days, weeks, monthsmonths to feel like I had completely unraveled the music. For me, that kind of music sticks with me a lot longer because it's such a great trip listening to their music over time and slowly understanding what the band was trying to achieve, rather than always having something that's an instant crowd pleaser. Where's the fun in that?!
Also, thanks for posting the article Inkblades. Hope they release what I read as 'Crest'. Sounds like a track that would have fit well on the Self - titled, based on the title alone. :)
Quote from: Inkblades on Mar 22, 2016, 09:13 AM
Metal Hammer gives Gore a 9 out of 10:
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That original opening song they took off the album is called Crest. Hmmm.
Thanks for the read! Wow, dropping the first track is ballsy. I
really hope that we eventually see "Crest" released on a b side and the other 4 instrumental songs make their way online.
Thanks for that, great review. I trust Stephen Hill's opinion and he's a big Deftones fan so I'm extra confident this album's going to be really good.
Thanks for the read, awesome review. It does indeed sound like Gore breaks the happy-sounding direction of the last two albums, and is more diverse. I really can't wait, this is going to be awesome.
From this review, doomed user sounds the less interresting yet i love this track!!
All the reviews have been positive so far. Can't wait to hear this. LEAK!
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All of us searching for a leak, haha.
^ :D
I like hearing that it is reminiscent of SNW. That's one of my favorite albums. Sounds like this album is unpredictable which I also really like. Lemme get that leak.
Quote from: Inkblades on Mar 22, 2016, 09:13 AM
Metal Hammer gives Gore a 9 out of 10:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeFOzG2WwAEFemT.jpg:large)
That original opening song they took off the album is called Crest. Hmmm.
Can you please post it in better quality? For me English isn't my native language and because of it it's hard to see what written there :(
(L)MIRL is also similar to heart and wires.
Nice to see they're comparing it to SNW, perhaps because of how diverse SNW was and that each song was unique.
I hope that these high grades are high because the album is good, not because the reviewer are fanboying over the band and like to promote the new record. guys, remember when the first kny review was out and it was a 10/10? lol. it was like a medal to deftones for long and faithful service more than a review.
Quote from: snw9 on Mar 22, 2016, 05:18 PM
(L)MIRL is also similar to heart and wires.
Nice to see they're comparing it to SNW, perhaps because of how diverse SNW was and that each song was unique.
Not similar in sound. They're comparing the songs because they both contain elements/influences that Deftones haven't done before, so they're both very out-there and different for the band. Even so, those are great comments to make.
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 22, 2016, 06:19 PM
I hope that these high grades are high because the album is good, not because the reviewer are fanboying over the band and like to promote the new record. guys, remember when the first kny review was out and it was a 10/10? lol. it was like a medal to deftones for long and faithful service more than a review.
I don't remember the Koi No Yokan reviews, but for me the words matter more than the rating. 9/10 is awesome but is subjective. The way people describe songs is somewhat subjective, but not entirely. If a song is heavy, it's undeniably heavy, you know? If the reviewer listens to Deftones, they know whether a song sounds different and experimental from them. He says there's no Swerve City or Rocket Skates, and the descriptions sound awesome, so for me, I don't interpret it as fanboying. Well, certainly the reviewer loves the band and the album, but I don't think the review itself is blind excitement from new music.
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 22, 2016, 06:19 PM
I hope that these high grades are high because the album is good, not because the reviewer are fanboying over the band and like to promote the new record. guys, remember when the first kny review was out and it was a 10/10? lol. it was like a medal to deftones for long and faithful service more than a review.
Except that KNY pretty much was a 10/10.
glad you like it
about crest... i'm thinking they should release gore like it will be released, but then also a deluxe version of the record but with crest as the opening track. or as closer. but preferably as the opening track like it was intended. maybe black flamingos on the album cover or some stuff like that. white pony kind of deal with different openers (bts) and extra track (boys republic). why not?
I feel like this is the only place on Earth where people would shit on KNY and would put stuff like S/T, two lackluster songs from Eros, and bunch of half-baked ideas from the SNW demos on a pedestal.
Again:
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Mar 21, 2016, 12:43 AM
Deftones fans are clearly pretty pretentious and often want to go against the grain or take a stance that will position them in the obscure because they want to feel a part of some elite Deftones fan club that makes them somehow better than the casual or new fans (whether they consciously know it or not). The obsession over two mediocre tracks from Eros (and also the fawning over S/T) is pretty clear evidence of this in my opinion.
It all boils down to opinion. But I agree that I have a feeling that some one here pull the "I'm a superior fan" card, especially those that whine the loudest as soon as someone praises Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan, or suggests that they prefer a certain song off of these albums over anything released prior.
To me SNW, Diamond Eyes and Koi No Yokan are the band's trifecta so far. To me that's their core sound.
I'm sorry but swerve city is so lame to me. Happy he made the swerve city / rocket skates comment . Both songs just really bore me. I'm not saying KNY is a bad record because I really enjoy a lot of it. I just feel it could have been a lot better. This review has definitely got me excited for gore !! :)
The main riffs in Swerve City are nothing to go crazy over but Sergio's bass-line in the verse and the little keyboard/guitar lead after the bridge are gold.
Rocket Skates was severely disappointing. Great evidence of when the band gets too lazy. It needed a true bridge.
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 22, 2016, 07:03 PM
about crest... i'm thinking they should release gore like it will be released, but then also a deluxe version of the record but with crest as the opening track. or as closer. but preferably as the opening track like it was intended. maybe black flamingos on the album cover or some stuff like that. white pony kind of deal with different openers (bts) and extra track (boys republic). why not?
Meh I'm not a big fan of bands doing things like that. If you've made an album and you're satisfied it's the best it can be then putting other songs on it taints it in my eyes, which is exactly what Back To School and The Boy's Republic do to White Pony - neither of them are bad songs, especially the latter, but nor are they part of that album and they should never have been released as part of it. An extra song like Crest is the sort of thing you either put as a B-side on a single or release as a bonus song on iTunes or something like that.
Admittedly I am pretty pure when it comes to CDs, even deluxe versions. A deluxe version with two CDs, one of them the album and the other with Crest and the other non-vocal/instrumental songs would be pretty cool though.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Mar 22, 2016, 07:03 PM
I feel like this is the only place on Earth where people would shit on KNY and would put stuff like S/T, two lackluster songs from Eros, and bunch of half-baked ideas from the SNW demos on a pedestal.
Again:
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Mar 21, 2016, 12:43 AM
Deftones fans are clearly pretty pretentious and often want to go against the grain or take a stance that will position them in the obscure because they want to feel a part of some elite Deftones fan club that makes them somehow better than the casual or new fans (whether they consciously know it or not). The obsession over two mediocre tracks from Eros (and also the fawning over S/T) is pretty clear evidence of this in my opinion.
This can go both ways, too.......people fawning over KNY.
Except you can make fairly objective arguments from a musician's and intellectual's standpoint about why KNY is leagues better than S/T, the two tracks from Eros, and the SNW demos.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Mar 22, 2016, 07:23 PM
The main riffs in Swerve City are nothing to go crazy over but Sergio's bass-line in the verse and the little keyboard/guitar lead after the bridge are gold.
Rocket Skates was severely disappointing. Great evidence of when the band gets too lazy. It needed a true bridge.
Nah
Rocket Skates makes me want to two step. Drums and guitar in that song are gold. Doomed user on the other hand, I wish they put Crest on instead. Never the case with me normally, love all things Deftones. Doomed user seems lazy and it's kind of boring, all the peeps at work didn't like it either.
Quote from: DefAlx on Mar 22, 2016, 05:05 PM
Can you please post it in better quality? For me English isn't my native language and because of it it's hard to see what written there :(
Have you tried using the zoom function on Chrome ?
Or maybe, and this is going to sound a ridiculous suggestion, buying it yourself ? haha
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Quote from: from_musings on Mar 22, 2016, 07:03 PM
about crest... i'm thinking they should release gore like it will be released, but then also a deluxe version of the record but with crest as the opening track. or as closer. but preferably as the opening track like it was intended. maybe black flamingos on the album cover or some stuff like that. white pony kind of deal with different openers (bts) and extra track (boys republic). why not?
Meh I'm not a big fan of bands doing things like that. If you've made an album and you're satisfied it's the best it can be then putting other songs on it taints it in my eyes, which is exactly what Back To School and The Boy's Republic do to White Pony - neither of them are bad songs, especially the latter, but nor are they part of that album and they should never have been released as part of it. An extra song like Crest is the sort of thing you either put as a B-side on a single or release as a bonus song on iTunes or something like that.
Admittedly I am pretty pure when it comes to CDs, even deluxe versions. A deluxe version with two CDs, one of them the album and the other with Crest and the other non-vocal/instrumental songs would be pretty cool though.
actually I agree in general, I just feel hate the feeling of knowing of finished deftones songs,especially with vocals, that exist but i don't get to hear them for whatever reasons.also i'm afraid i just don't trust chino when it comes to taste and judgement.i mean he dislikes my favourite albums adrenaline and st and he was the one that didn't think f.o.d should be on snw... and now he says he scrappes a song that "was one of my favourite but was too fast/tooslow/ wrong rythym i don't know" I mean from a personal point of view maybe he is wrong again.
Quote from: DefAlx on Mar 22, 2016, 05:05 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Mar 22, 2016, 09:13 AM
Metal Hammer gives Gore a 9 out of 10:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeFOzG2WwAEFemT.jpg:large)
That original opening song they took off the album is called Crest. Hmmm.
Can you please post it in better quality? For me English isn't my native language and because of it it's hard to see what written there :(
Sorry, I found the review on Twitter, but if you open the image in a new tab, it will be larger. Then you can zoom in further.
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 22, 2016, 08:37 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Mar 22, 2016, 07:28 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 22, 2016, 07:03 PM
about crest... i'm thinking they should release gore like it will be released, but then also a deluxe version of the record but with crest as the opening track. or as closer. but preferably as the opening track like it was intended. maybe black flamingos on the album cover or some stuff like that. white pony kind of deal with different openers (bts) and extra track (boys republic). why not?
Meh I'm not a big fan of bands doing things like that. If you've made an album and you're satisfied it's the best it can be then putting other songs on it taints it in my eyes, which is exactly what Back To School and The Boy's Republic do to White Pony - neither of them are bad songs, especially the latter, but nor are they part of that album and they should never have been released as part of it. An extra song like Crest is the sort of thing you either put as a B-side on a single or release as a bonus song on iTunes or something like that.
Admittedly I am pretty pure when it comes to CDs, even deluxe versions. A deluxe version with two CDs, one of them the album and the other with Crest and the other non-vocal/instrumental songs would be pretty cool though.
actually I agree in general, I just feel hate the feeling of knowing of finished deftones songs,especially with vocals, that exist but i don't get to hear them for whatever reasons.also i'm afraid i just don't trust chino when it comes to taste and judgement.i mean he dislikes my favourite albums adrenaline and st and he was the one that didn't think f.o.d should be on snw... and now he says he scrappes a song that "was one of my favourite but was too fast/tooslow/ wrong rythym i don't know" I mean from a personal point of view maybe he is wrong again.
I don't think he dislikes the self-titled at all to be honest - I think he likes it but he associates it with a hard period of time in his life so doesn't enjoy it as much. With Adrenaline, I think he just doesn't relate anymore who he was at the time and the lyrical content especially and that's fine. In terms of writing a record, I trust Chino and the rest of the band completely; given how brilliant they've been over such a long period of time, if they don't think a song is right for an album, then they're more than welcome to remove it. That's what albums should be - a true representation of who a band/artist is at the time. They'll still make mistakes sometimes but I don't really give a shit; I want whatever album they want to put out and then I can make my own conclusions. If Chino and the rest of the band don't want Crest on the record then it doesn't belong there.
Quote from: LG95 on Mar 22, 2016, 08:54 PM
I don't think he dislikes the self-titled at all to be honest - I think he likes it but he associates it with a hard period of time in his life so doesn't enjoy it as much. With Adrenaline, I think he just doesn't relate anymore who he was at the time and the lyrical content especially and that's fine
cool
Quote from: LG95 on Mar 22, 2016, 08:54 PM
In terms of writing a record, I trust Chino and the rest of the band completely; given how brilliant they've been over such a long period of time
well...
Quote from: LG95 on Mar 22, 2016, 08:54 PM
They'll still make mistakes sometimes but I don't really give a shit
i do (f.o.d)
Quote from: LG95 on Mar 22, 2016, 08:54 PM
I want whatever album they want to put out and then I can make my own conclusions.
hard to make own conclusions if you don't get to hear what they left out of the record.
Quote from: LG95 on Mar 22, 2016, 08:54 PM
If Chino and the rest of the band don't want Crest on the record then it doesn't belong there.
chino's decision according to himself. again, i don't trust the man.
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 22, 2016, 09:17 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Mar 22, 2016, 08:54 PM
They'll still make mistakes sometimes but I don't really give a shit
i do (f.o.d)
One demo song is enough to make Chino's judgement untrustworthy? Lol
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 22, 2016, 09:17 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Mar 22, 2016, 08:54 PM
I want whatever album they want to put out and then I can make my own conclusions.
hard to make own conclusions if you don't get to hear what they left out of the record.
Actually that's totally irrelevant. It's entirely up to a band/artist what an album is - the sound, the songs, what gets included, the track ordering etc. From that, you can make your own conclusions about it. What doesn't get included is completely irrelevant to that record. That's what the process should always be. It's why the label releasing the special versions of White Pony with The Boy's Republic and Back To School on was such bollocks - that sort of thing stands against everything music should be.
A band releases the album they want to, we either like it or we don't. Simple.
fod was a big kick in the balls for me. also, he doesn't like adrenaline and st. i said "cool" because you spoke defending and tender about my two personal favourites.thanks. i agree with bullocks to some extent, but maybe we wouldn't get to hear b.r wihtout label milking money out of wp who knows.
would you like to hear crest?
I get the Adrenaline love, cuz for a lot of fans that's what got us into Deftones and aggressive music in general. I know that's my case, but there's no way that's a fav of mine. Hell, I very rarely play anything off it. Honestly my least fave they've done, followed by SNW and White Pony.
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Quote from: Mr Blonde on Mar 22, 2016, 09:42 PM
I get the Adrenaline love, cuz for a lot of fans that's what got us into Deftones and aggressive music in general.
hell no, not because they were aggressive and that's that.machine head,pantera and sepultura did that. it was because deftones were aggressive but girly emotional at the same time. gay and aggressive, only korn had done that before, that was their usp
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 22, 2016, 09:40 PM
fod was a big kick in the balls for me. also, he doesn't like adrenaline and st. i said "cool" because you spoke defending and tender about my two personal favourites.thanks. i agree with bullocks to some extent, but maybe we wouldn't get to hear b.r wihtout label milking money out of wp who knows.
would you like to hear crest?
BTW, I happen to disagree with Chino on Adrenaline and the self-titled - the latter in particular is an absolute masterpiece. But I understand why he doesn't like them as much (and I do think he genuinely likes the self-titled, he just finds it hard to relate to that period of time). As fans we're lucky that we can basically just judge the albums on their own merits, whereas artists and bands naturally relate a record to what it was like during the process of making it. That's probably partly why Around The Fur is Chino's favourite album.
And yeah I'd to hear Crest, just not as part of Gore itself.
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 22, 2016, 09:45 PM
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Deftones got me into bands like Pantera and Machine Head. I bought Adrenaline cuz I saw it reviewed it a Skateboarding sales mag in 5th grade. I was into Korn to a lesser extent and then never listened to them again after Follow the Leader. My heavy metal taste weren't to developed around my exposure to Deftones
Quote from: LG95 on Mar 22, 2016, 09:46 PM
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 22, 2016, 09:40 PM
fod was a big kick in the balls for me. also, he doesn't like adrenaline and st. i said "cool" because you spoke defending and tender about my two personal favourites.thanks. i agree with bullocks to some extent, but maybe we wouldn't get to hear b.r wihtout label milking money out of wp who knows.
would you like to hear crest?
BTW, I happen to disagree with Chino on Adrenaline and the self-titled - the latter in particular is an absolute masterpiece. But I understand why he doesn't like them as much (and I do think he genuinely likes the self-titled, he just finds it hard to relate to that period of time). As fans we're lucky that we can basically just judge the albums on their own merits, whereas artists and bands naturally relate a record to what it was like during the process of making it. That's probably partly why Around The Fur is Chino's favourite album.
And yeah I'd to hear Crest, just not as part of Gore itself.
ok, b-side then . lovers style.perfectly fine with me. hope is the last thing that dies in a man
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Quote from: punkflop01 on Mar 17, 2016, 07:19 PM
Everyone can calm down now.
http://teamrock.com/news/2016-03-17/deftones-stef-buries-split-rumours-that-followed-tense-gore-sessions (http://teamrock.com/news/2016-03-17/deftones-stef-buries-split-rumours-that-followed-tense-gore-sessions)
Amen. I don't see why most people overreacted in the first place. He said in that same interview that it took him awhile to get into it. So that means he eventually got into it. Common sense.I don't see what all the uproar was about.
i do, i knew people what take what stef said and even turn it into rumors of break up, first of all it's his personality to say something like that which is what makes it even more tiring to hear people's opinions and rumors of what he would say and everything in stef's rebuttal is the epitome of what social media does these days. people take you by your words, not your actions. that's wrong.
Just to be clear, Chino doesn't hate s/t...
Is there something in Deftones' career for which you have regretted doing or not doing?
I try not to regret anything. We definitely made some great and some weird decisions in our career but this stuff got us where we are now. I think that the bad decisions and the bad experiences we have faced all these years are in the same time a learning experience. There are some songs, for example from our self-titled album, that I'm feeling disconnected to them. I can't say that I am feeling embarrassed for them or that I have regretted recording them, but I can't really hear them because they remind me a specific period of my life.
Bought Kerrang this morning. Really lovely eight-page feature on them, talking to them about their history as a band, highs and lows, and the new record. I'll try and get it up later if nobody else does.
It does confirm that the video shoot was for Prayers/Triangles by the way.
Quote from: LG95 on Mar 23, 2016, 12:26 PM
Bought Kerrang this morning. Really lovely eight-page feature on them, talking to them about their history as a band, highs and lows, and the new record. I'll try and get it up later if nobody else does.
Yes please!
Quote from: LG95 on Mar 23, 2016, 12:26 PM
eight-page feature talking to them about their history as a band, highs and lows, and the new record.
is it like the eight-page feature the last time?
did they say anything at all about crest? deluxe version? b-side? i-tunes bonus? what about the diamond eyes outtake? B-side rarities II?
Here you go...
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good interview, cheers, good to see some self-titled love from the band
Good shit, thanks for this
Thank you for posting this interview! :)
I'll see whether I can buy a copy, though. I want those pics, haha.
That was an awesome read, further clarification on Stef's comments, and it's cool how Hearts/Wires ended up being one of the songs he likes the most. I guess he makes a good point about how they make music for themselves. We might love, hate or somewhere in-between their albums, but if the music they're making is what they're all happy playing, that's probably the reason for the longevity of the band.
S/T had songwriters? wait wut
Quote from: beaverwithfishyshoes on Mar 23, 2016, 03:51 PM
S/T had songwriters? wait wut
The label put Chino with a few songwriters at some point in the process of making Saturday Night Wrist, not the S/T. He's definitely mentioned it before.
its really frustrating to still read all of the negativity that S/T and SNW gets from Chino... while i do understand they're not your favorites they're still part of the catalog and maybe they're the reason that some fans got into deftones in the first place. while i do understand the whole dark days thingy he must at least consider to play more songs out of those two albums it's long overdue.
I said it before, Chino is not telling you off for liking S/T and SNW. He probably knows it has tons of good songs. But music is one of the strongest ways to relive prior periods in your life, now imagine that multiplied by a thousand if you were the one actually making that music instead of listening to a record. He probably has constant flashbacks of his divorce, his drug use and tensions within the band when listening to those records. It's very hard to revisit music that remind you of a bad place in your life, I think we can all relate to that.
Quote from: King Leer on Mar 23, 2016, 04:09 PM
its really frustrating to still read all of the negativity that S/T and SNW gets from Chino... while i do understand they're not your favorites they're still part of the catalog and maybe they're the reason that some fans got into deftones in the first place. while i do understand the whole dark days thingy he must at least consider to play more songs out of those two albums it's long overdue.
i dont think its dark at all. s/t reminds me of summer... (not my own summer...)
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Nice interview. Good shit. Love this little line... "Deftones won the battle - they've enjoyed sustained critical and commercial success far longer than any other band of their g-g-generation".
Cool to see ABE is the "collector" of the band, haha.
Thanks for sharing, amazing!
Quote from: King Leer on Mar 23, 2016, 04:09 PM
its really frustrating to still read all of the negativity that S/T and SNW gets from Chino...
He called Anniversary Of An Uninteresting Event "probably his favourite Deftones song" and said he is proud of their self-titled album. Not good enough?
3 new things i haven't read/heard before:
bqad's working title was "dreamboat"
chino is proud of s/t
chino's favourite deftones song of all time is "anniversary"
thanks for posting.
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 23, 2016, 04:58 PM
3 new things i haven't read/heard before:
bqad's working title was "dreamboat"
chino is proud of s/t
chino's favourite deftones song of all time is "anniversary"
thanks for posting.
that shit is pretty dope
You know how people talk about they can't listen to certain songs after a break-up because it makes them sad and miss that person? Imagine that, except...way bigger problems than just a break-up, and you actually created the songs. That's a very strong attachment to negative feelings, and I can understand them not reliving it more than they have to. Of course, a few songs from Saturday Night Wrist would be awesome, and certainly some less-commonly played songs from the self-titled album would be great, but I guess it's difficult for them.
I think it's funny, because Chino says Saturday Night Wrist is the one he thinks is horrible because those times were dark, but the songs don't really seem like it, you know? Whereas the self-titled album, that's a very dark album, the entire mood, even the way his vocals sound. So it's funny how he's proud of the self-titled album despite what was going on at the time, but Saturday Night Wrist is the one that's the hardest for him to revisit. Then again, Bloody Cape isn't quite as dark, and therefore hard to revisit perhaps, as Battle-Axe, I suppose.
Quote from: ANattyRat on Mar 23, 2016, 05:13 PM
I think it's funny, because Chino says Saturday Night Wrist is the one he thinks is horrible because those times were dark, but the songs don't really seem like it, you know? Whereas the self-titled album, that's a very dark album, the entire mood, even the way his vocals sound. So it's funny how he's proud of the self-titled album despite what was going on at the time, but Saturday Night Wrist is the one that's the hardest for him to revisit. Then again, Bloody Cape isn't quite as dark, and therefore hard to revisit perhaps, as Battle-Axe, I suppose.
I think SNW is a dark/spooky sounding album. I've always had sort of a dark/depressed feeling about it but I really love it. Albums are seasonal to me and I love listening to this one in the fall. It kind of fits with Halloween, the trees losing their leaves, and the crips, cool air.
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Quote from: King Leer on Mar 23, 2016, 04:09 PM
its really frustrating to still read all of the negativity that S/T and SNW gets from Chino...
He called Anniversary Of An Uninteresting Event "probably his favourite Deftones song" and said he is proud of their self-titled album. Not good enough?
yeah, nevermind me i'm just nitpicking cuz' i know i'll never hear Battle Axe or Deathblow live.
Quote from: ANattyRat on Mar 23, 2016, 05:13 PM
You know how people talk about they can't listen to certain songs after a break-up because it makes them sad and miss that person? Imagine that, except...way bigger problems than just a break-up, and you actually created the songs. That's a very strong attachment to negative feelings, and I can understand them not reliving it more than they have to. Of course, a few songs from Saturday Night Wrist would be awesome, and certainly some less-commonly played songs from the self-titled album would be great, but I guess it's difficult for them.
I think it's funny, because Chino says Saturday Night Wrist is the one he thinks is horrible because those times were dark, but the songs don't really seem like it, you know? Whereas the self-titled album, that's a very dark album, the entire mood, even the way his vocals sound. So it's funny how he's proud of the self-titled album despite what was going on at the time, but Saturday Night Wrist is the one that's the hardest for him to revisit. Then again, Bloody Cape isn't quite as dark, and therefore hard to revisit perhaps, as Battle-Axe, I suppose.
s/t isnt too dark to me. also, gratification and enjoyment is two different things. if youre writing justin biebers horrible tunes, its still something to come up with those hit songs.
LG95, I can't thank you enough! cheers
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Quote from: ANattyRat on Mar 23, 2016, 05:13 PM
You know how people talk about they can't listen to certain songs after a break-up because it makes them sad and miss that person? Imagine that, except...way bigger problems than just a break-up, and you actually created the songs. That's a very strong attachment to negative feelings, and I can understand them not reliving it more than they have to. Of course, a few songs from Saturday Night Wrist would be awesome, and certainly some less-commonly played songs from the self-titled album would be great, but I guess it's difficult for them.
I think it's funny, because Chino says Saturday Night Wrist is the one he thinks is horrible because those times were dark, but the songs don't really seem like it, you know? Whereas the self-titled album, that's a very dark album, the entire mood, even the way his vocals sound. So it's funny how he's proud of the self-titled album despite what was going on at the time, but Saturday Night Wrist is the one that's the hardest for him to revisit. Then again, Bloody Cape isn't quite as dark, and therefore hard to revisit perhaps, as Battle-Axe, I suppose.
s/t isnt too dark to me. also, gratification and enjoyment is two different things. if youre writing justin biebers horrible tunes, its still something to come up with those hit songs.
Hes not talking about it being dark to us. Chino's talking about it being a dark time for himself. its called association. he made the songs in a dark period in his life. doesnt mean he can't love the songs, it just that every time he plays them he has to relive those horrible times until that connection is lost, which can take tons of years or even forever. Like Anattyrat says, like some songs that remind you of a bad relationship only times a hundred because you wrote the songs.
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i think chino is "so so" on S/T. for years he didn't care for it that much, but has somewhat warmed up to it lately.
..and now he's warm enough to call himself proud of it. good eye for tendencies there by you i must say
Anniversary of an Uninteresting Event... Chino's favourite Deftones song ever? Well, nice surprise. A great song to play live, they could do it.
Abe and Chi almost a year without speaking? I did not expect it at all. It's been 3 years already, we miss him so much.
16 eternal days!
Quote from: Jimmy_McNulty on Mar 23, 2016, 08:03 PM
Anniversary of an Uninteresting Event... Chino's favourite Deftones song ever? Well, nice surprise. A great song to play live, they could do it.
they did play it live at chi's benefit concert(s)
anniversary of an uninteresting event is a soul tune. and chino is finally warming up to S/T? do you really think when he recorded that he was like oh shit, i suck now? they knew it was their best shit and they were on the cover of a magazine back then i forgot which one, and chino finally took a long awaited shit on the nu metal scene and told the truth and also called out metallica talking about how they were going to rock their shit on the summer sanitarium tour, so no he's always loved that album, stop eating his words, he has moods and knows how to be humble about his works, except in that article which I wish i could remember the magazine. anyone?
Thanks for the article! Great read. It also finally clears up what I've been arguing on Sharing Lungs forever: S/T is an album they should be proud of and it's also better than SNW. Chino agrees with me. ;D
Quote from: StaminaDaddy on Mar 23, 2016, 08:18 PM
..except in that article which I wish i could remember the magazine. anyone?
don't remember the name but there were bullet holes on it with blood coming out of them... it was like omg shots fired by chino
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 23, 2016, 08:11 PM
Quote from: Jimmy_McNulty on Mar 23, 2016, 08:03 PM
Anniversary of an Uninteresting Event... Chino's favourite Deftones song ever? Well, nice surprise. A great song to play live, they could do it.
they did play it live at chi's benefit concert(s)
Dude it's true! I didn't remember, beautiful performance.
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 23, 2016, 08:26 PM
Quote from: StaminaDaddy on Mar 23, 2016, 08:18 PM
..except in that article which I wish i could remember the magazine. anyone?
don't remember the name but there were bullet holes on it with blood coming out of them... it was like omg shots fired by chino
lol never saw that one, sounds cool. but no chino just had a big smirk on his face on the cover.
Revolver August 2003
(http://thecorny.free.fr/chino%20talks.jpg)
yes i love that article
chino did duck faces before they were cool
Quote from: Freedomsoldier17 on Mar 23, 2016, 09:45 PM
chino did duck faces before they were cool
Chino does everything before it is cool.
Chino was fat before it was cool.
Chino had Justin Bieber hair before Justin Bieber had Justin Bieber hair.
Chino was Chino before Chino was cool.
Chuck Norris has only lost one fight in his life.......versus Chino Moreno.
yep, chino bruce lee moreno.
Great article thanks for posting it. Damn I can not believe here in about two weeks we will have nine more killer jams.
Chino Moreno was cool 2 more hours than Chongo Morono
The hype for this album is insane and not to mention how tight of a lid is on the leak.
Quote from: snw9 on Mar 24, 2016, 03:03 AM
The hype for this album is insane and not to mention how tight of a lid is on the leak.
Something tells me this will be the weakest Deftones album. It just kind of reminds me of Korn how they always say every album will be heavier than the last and they usually end up getting worse. The first 2 songs released are pretty boring to me. I'm am cautiously optimistic but we will see. Seems like Steph is doing damage control after his earlier interview.
ok korn fan
Deftones aren't Korn, and they've never said this album is heavier, just that it's a less optimistic direction than the last two albums, and everyone who's heard the album so far has confirmed that. Maybe those two songs are the two most boring ones on the album. Hearts/Wires and (L)MIRL are described as being very out-there and different to anything they've done before; makes sense they wouldn't release those and instead want people to hear it on the album. I mean, how many people's favourite songs happen to be the singles? Probably not a lot.
Anyway, Koi No Yokan was kept from leaking very well, so I'm not expecting a leak until probably a few days before the release date.
Quote from: StaminaDaddy on Mar 24, 2016, 03:47 AM
ok korn fan
Yep. I did like their old stuff as probably 75% of other Deftones fans did. If you didn't like them, you're either lying or got into Deftones post White Pony.
Quote from: 2MoreHours on Mar 24, 2016, 04:07 AM
Quote from: StaminaDaddy on Mar 24, 2016, 03:47 AM
ok korn fan
Yep. I did like their old stuff as probably 75% of other Deftones fans did. If you didn't like them, you're either lying or got into Deftones post White Pony.
lol you wish 75 percent of deftness fans did. even in someone's guesstimating masturbation they wouldn't think that, and thats fine if you like them.
I don't even want to say when I got into deftones because it would just look snobbish. or how songs like some people and gift put to shame any relation to ARE YOU READY!?? more like the sweetest perfection and the chauffeur. It's sad that people judge books by a cover, they've always been more like an 80's english pop group.
Quote from: StaminaDaddy on Mar 24, 2016, 06:10 AM
Quote from: 2MoreHours on Mar 24, 2016, 04:07 AM
Quote from: StaminaDaddy on Mar 24, 2016, 03:47 AM
ok korn fan
Yep. I did like their old stuff as probably 75% of other Deftones fans did. If you didn't like them, you're either lying or got into Deftones post White Pony.
lol you wish 75 percent of deftness fans did. even in someone's guesstimating masturbation they wouldn't think that, and thats fine if you like them.
I don't even want to say when I got into deftones because it would just look snobbish. or how songs like some people and gift put to shame any relation to ARE YOU READY!?? more like the sweetest perfection and the chauffeur. It's sad that people judge books by a cover, they've always been more like an 80's english pop group.
Yoi Yes Kokan, is that you??? You've arisen so quickly, like an overly-eager and 500x more annoying Jesus.
Quote from: 2MoreHours on Mar 24, 2016, 03:14 AM
Seems like Steph is doing damage control after his earlier interview.
yeah,first he says that he didn't want to play on the record beacuse of the direction, that it is a chino/sergio record and that the band started leaving him.now he says that the whole debacle was just about one fucking song? lol why didn't he say so from the beginning? would've save a lot of trouble. maybe it was high-as-fuck-stephen that said those things and sober-stephen has to set things straight afterwards
Quote from: 2MoreHours on Mar 24, 2016, 03:14 AM
Quote from: snw9 on Mar 24, 2016, 03:03 AM
The hype for this album is insane and not to mention how tight of a lid is on the leak.
Something tells me this will be the weakest Deftones album. It just kind of reminds me of Korn how they always say every album will be heavier than the last and they usually end up getting worse. The first 2 songs released are pretty boring to me. I'm am cautiously optimistic but we will see. Seems like Steph is doing damage control after his earlier interview.
I agree with your comment on Korn however Deftones aesthetically are way better artists than korn. Korn had to hire song writers to help them evolve their sound where as Deftones have done it independently.
Quote from: snw9 on Mar 24, 2016, 05:12 PM
Quote from: 2MoreHours on Mar 24, 2016, 03:14 AM
Quote from: snw9 on Mar 24, 2016, 03:03 AM
The hype for this album is insane and not to mention how tight of a lid is on the leak.
Something tells me this will be the weakest Deftones album. It just kind of reminds me of Korn how they always say every album will be heavier than the last and they usually end up getting worse. The first 2 songs released are pretty boring to me. I'm am cautiously optimistic but we will see. Seems like Steph is doing damage control after his earlier interview.
I agree with your comment on Korn however Deftones aesthetically are way better artists than korn. Korn had to hire song writers to help them evolve their sound where as Deftones have done it independently.
Oh yeah. Deftones are way better than Korn. I'm just saying this hype and some of the stuff the guys are saying reminds me of Korn. I'm trying to temper my excitement for this album.
Lol anyone who mentions Korn in the same sentence as Deftones is just being blasphemous.
Quote from: 2MoreHours on Mar 24, 2016, 05:34 PM
Quote from: snw9 on Mar 24, 2016, 05:12 PM
Quote from: 2MoreHours on Mar 24, 2016, 03:14 AM
Quote from: snw9 on Mar 24, 2016, 03:03 AM
The hype for this album is insane and not to mention how tight of a lid is on the leak.
Something tells me this will be the weakest Deftones album. It just kind of reminds me of Korn how they always say every album will be heavier than the last and they usually end up getting worse. The first 2 songs released are pretty boring to me. I'm am cautiously optimistic but we will see. Seems like Steph is doing damage control after his earlier interview.
I agree with your comment on Korn however Deftones aesthetically are way better artists than korn. Korn had to hire song writers to help them evolve their sound where as Deftones have done it independently.
Oh yeah. Deftones are way better than Korn. I'm just saying this hype and some of the stuff the guys are saying reminds me of Korn. I'm trying to temper my excitement for this album.
I see what you mean, however deftones have never disappointed. They can still write some really good songs unlike korn, who haven't been able to be as good as they used to be. I was a fan of korn as well however always leaned towards deftones.
I think the album will deliver.
korn is just a bad joke nowadays, that beastie boys cover is pathetic.
Awesome that Chino thinks so highly of AOAUE.
That song/sound totally caught me off guard the first time I heard it .
One of their best.
https://www.grammypro.com/professional-development/article/deftones-talk-friendship-new-album (https://www.grammypro.com/professional-development/article/deftones-talk-friendship-new-album)
There's a picture of the video shoot in the link to the article
Deftones Talk Friendship, New Album
The GRAMMY-winning alternative band gives us the inside scoop on their upcoming album, 'Gore'
Steve Baltin and Monica Molinaro | GRAMMYPro.com
Photo: Claire Marie Vogel
It's a gloomy Friday afternoon in the industrial outskirts of Los Angeles, and we are at Pollution Studios to meet up with the multi-platinum alternative band, Deftones. We catch them filming the video for "Prayers And Triangles," the lead track from their forthcoming album Gore.
The GRAMMY-winning quintet comprised of Chino Moreno, Abe Cunningham, Sergio Vega, Frank Delgado, and Stephen Carpenter are all smiles as they prep for the April 8 release of Gore, their first album since 2012's Koi No Yokan. That they've reached this point and have an album all five members are excited about is reason enough to smile. As frontman Moreno tells us, guitarist Carpenter has been very open about the fact that he wasn't initially on board with the slightly different sound of this album.
However, the band had a breakthrough rehearsing the new material before the live debut of the tracks at Travis Barker's Musink Festival. Moreno, Vega, and Cunningham sat with us to discuss the new album, why the band's friendship comes first, and why Moreno's influences as a writer range from electronic music to Morrissey.
Steve Baltin: Are you doing any of the new stuff live this weekend at Musink?
Chino Moreno: Yeah, we're gonna do a couple of songs. Obviously the single "Prayers And Triangles." And we're gonna try to debut one or two more, but we'll see. It sucks because you play a song people haven't heard yet, then someone tapes it with their phone, a live version of it, and that's people's first impression of the music.
Abe Cunningham: That's the world we live in. You want the best possible version out, in this day and age though, everyone has a recording device in their pocket. But we're excited to play new stuff.
Moreno: We had a blast yesterday, we went through three or four of the new songs. We just kept going through the ones we hadn't played because pretty much since we recorded them, we haven't had a chance to really sit around and play these songs. So it's like experiencing them for the first time in a way.
Baltin: Were there albums that reemerged as an inspiration for you during the making of this record?
Sergio Vega: During the making of it I could honestly say I don't really have source records or anything like that. This is more of a gumbo 'cause everybody listens to so many things. I think that's one of the strengths of this band, it's not so easily traced to its roots or the source because the sources are too numerous.
Moreno: And if someone's not feeling something by the first hour or second day we'll start something else. But you know how it is, sometimes it comes like that and sometimes it doesn't. The goal was to make a solid album.
Monica Molinaro: I can imagine that taking a while. Did it?
Moreno: The songs themselves don't really take long. As far as the idea or the spark of the song, we kind of just want to let it happen. Then by the time we get to the studio, you kind of want some of that freshness of not knowing what's going to happen, 'cause there's an unpredictability there.
Molinaro: That translates really beautifully in this album because before I even heard what the lyrics were, I could already feel the emotion.
Moreno: That's how I usually write. I feel like the songs, musically, there's emotion being emitted right there. So my goal is just to react with that and try to magnify that, but never take away from what's already there. And that's kind of the hard part of writing lyrics too, because I never want to be descriptive or giving too much of an opinion of what it should be.
Molinaro: And the tone isn't as optimistic as in the past.
Moreno: I don't think as much as the last two records. I feel like we're optimistic men [everyone laughs]. I know we all feel "doomed," or this sense of doom hanging over us. We do have a lot of optimism, but the record takes on a few more aggressive emotions in there. This record is a little bit more conniving in a way.
Cunningham: And dense, concrete. Production-wise it's like guitars are just boom, boom, boom.
Baltin: When did you notice it was conniving?
Moreno: It's something in retrospect when I look back. I always shy away from my honest feelings. I have a problem with that; I've always had a problem with that. But in a way I don't think it's a problem. There's always a better way to present things than just the obvious, so the goal is to never just run with it completely, but flirt with it as much as possible.
Baltin: Who are the writers who do that for you?
Moreno: Over the last few years, I got so deeply into electronic music and instrumental music because I didn't want someone to dictate to me what I should be feeling while I listen to the song. But on the opposite side of the spectrum of that, I love when someone taunts me a little bit with an idea of something and I'm already feeling that emotion. So, Morrissey is someone who's done that to me, from the Smiths to his solo stuff. He'll be very vague and then he'll say something that just catches you like, "What?!" And that dichotomy is crazy to me, I love that. But, at the end of the day, the way things are said is way more interesting than just trying to hammer someone over the head with something. I'm not that type of person in general; I'm not a political person, I'm not a poet. I very much just react to music that's connecting.
Baltin: What were some of the songs that were most exciting to you, playing them live in rehearsal?
Vega: Playing them back and hearing them live, they just sounded way more brutal and fierce. I see a lot of things when I play. I saw a lot went into this part and how it's embedded with a lot of energy because it didn't come together so easily.
Moreno: What was great yesterday was watching a lot of this metamorphosis of Stephen realizing how heavy and awesome some of these songs are because of the way shit came down. Stephen said himself it took him a while to get into some of these songs. So I think before we started playing yesterday, he didn't know how to relate to some of the songs so much. And then we started playing them and he started realizing, just like I was, how fucking powerful this shit is really and the fact we all were very much a huge part of that, making something from nothing, it's a pretty rad feeling.
Baltin: Did the difficulties in getting Stephen on board give you a stronger appreciation for all you went through in making this record?
Moreno: I fucking love him more today than I ever loved him in my life even though we had one of the most difficult experiences making a record. White Pony was one of the quintessential records where he and I were like not seeing eye-to-eye, but at the same time we answered each other. So as that happened, we started building on each other, sort of outdoing each other in a way. At the end of the day it escalated to greater heights than it would be if there were no conflict.
Molinaro: No wonder it felt like there's so much emotion in there.
Vega: It's in there. Good times, tough times. We all love each other and there's a real love so you don't want someone you're a fan of to not be stoked on something you're all hyped on.
Molinaro: It must have been gratifying to have him get excited for these songs.
Vega: He's super hyped and he's mostly hyped on stuff he was resistant to, which feels good that we managed to pull together and make that happen. It's heavy. I'm just stoked coming into this thing 'cause everyone is so open, it's such a great environment to create with and you've got people open, but also flooding you too and stuff. It's just the best.
Molinaro: Do you feel like this album reveals who you are at this point in life?
Moreno: I definitely think our record should be a reflection of where we are in our lives at this point. Given that we've been doing this for over 20-something years, where we are as friends, musicians, and collaborators ... that shit reflects. When you listen to the record, to me, it sounds like a mature record. It's not White Pony Part 2, it's not Adrenaline Part 2. It's an expanded version of what we did four years ago when we put out our last record and that's what it should always be.
Molinaro: Sometimes it feels like there's more artistry in that, and it shows off who you are in your styles. That's what your fans want and it's what they love about you.
Vega: That's what I noticed about coming in. What people appreciate about these guys is that it's art, it's not a product. It's a result of this friendship and this mutual kind of disparate take on music. First is the friendship, then music as a means of expression and then everything else is like whatever's going on gets filtered through him and goes into that song.
Baltin: You guys worked with Jerry Cantrell from Alice In Chains on this record?
Vega: What was cool about that was he came in and he was like, "Whoa, this is cool." I don't know what it's like for him in his band and how they go on, but we all got something to say and we're all in it. He went and then he called us up and he's like, "I want to do more." He came back to recut it and he's like, "I'll come back and do it again."
Moreno: It was definitely a fun experience.
Molinaro: What do you guys take from this record when you hear the finished version?
Moreno: It's definitely not a light record. I don't think it's a totally dark record, but there's something in our music that has a little provocative kind of vibe to it. And I feel like that exists in our music for some reason. I don't know where it comes from.
Vega: The bitterness [everyone laughs]. We're not really that pissed.
Moreno: For a heavy metal band [laughs].
Awesome interview, thanks for posting. Yet again more comments about how this is a darker, heavier and more aggressive, less-optimistic album than the last two. Good stuff, it was time for a change in mood, I've always wanted that kind of raw darkness to seep into their music again (minus any internal conflicts, relationship problems, drug problems, etc. Just some creative darkness). Interviews like this always increase my hype for the album. Man. the 8th (or the day of the leak) can't come quick enough.
It's going to be their best album yet. At least from the Sergio era. I'm pretty confident
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Mar 25, 2016, 10:56 PM
It's going to be their best album yet. At least from the Sergio era. I'm pretty confident
Agreed, from the Sergio era. Based on my own personal musical preferences, of course. Sounds like it ticks all the boxes in my book.
You make a lot of great points, especially about how when they make heavy music now, it's mostly for fun and to add another layer into it. They're in a better place now, and I think making Diamond Eyes probably helped. They could've used the emotions they were going through to dwell on the sadness and worry, and end up making another self-titled album. But at what cost to their own mental health and happiness? Probably a big one. So they chose to put the 'dark, experimental' album they'd been working on on hold, and make something that was uplifting and therapeutic for them. Regardless of any of our opinions of that album, it was obviously good for them. So now they're in a better place, that darkness doesn't punch you in the core like it used to, because it's more artistic than raw expression. But that's cool, because they're great musicians, and they can capture those feelings awesomely
As hard as it is for them to revisit the past, though, they do that with any song, so I think they should at least try. Like you said, the authenticity will never be there like it was back then, but how incredible was it when they played Riviere??? You were there when they played Combat, right? Even if they made some mistakes or it wasn't perfect, they did that, and everyone at that show got to witness that song being played. That's an amazing memory. So, authentic darkness or not, it's a treat when they decide to give it a go.
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Mar 01, 2016, 01:05 PM
I'm confident that Gore will be their best album for me personally, at least for the Sergio era.
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Mar 25, 2016, 10:56 PM
It's going to be their best album yet. At least from the Sergio era. I'm pretty confident
To say it will be the best album out of all 8, and to say it will be the best one out of 3 is a hell of a difference. a big jump there.
you can say "smile is the best deftones song to me, at least top 3"
you don't say "smile is the best deftones song to me, at least top 50"
I'm with them. I have this sneaking suspicion that Gore will be my favorite Deftones album since S/T.
Yup. I think the new record will be a breath of fresh air from what they have been doing the last 2 albums.
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Mar 26, 2016, 05:07 PM
I'm with them. I have this sneaking suspicion that Gore will be my favorite Deftones album since S/T.
could be for me too, i don't know, but that was not my point ;)
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 26, 2016, 05:02 PM
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Mar 01, 2016, 01:05 PM
I'm confident that Gore will be their best album for me personally, at least for the Sergio era.
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Mar 25, 2016, 10:56 PM
It's going to be their best album yet. At least from the Sergio era. I'm pretty confident
To say it will be the best album out of all 8, and to say it will be the best one out of 3 is a hell of a difference. a big jump there.
you can say "smile is the best deftones song to me, at least top 3"
you don't say "smile is the best deftones song to me, at least top 50"
Well, you called me out on my bullshit. But if I said it was going to be their best album, period, (which I actually think it's going to be), there would habe been a hell of a shitstorm, so I played it safe by saying "Sergio Era"
Yes but playing it safe in a strange way. basically what you're saying is "gore will be the best shit they ever released in their entire career. or at least it will be better than the last two albums" it's such a weird disclaimer to throw in at the last second.
it's like saying "guys tonight i will fuck one girl at the preparty, one in the club's toilet, and then fuck one in the cab home before i pass out.just watch me. That, or at least i will get a girl's telephone number." ??
i'm a bit afraid ppl are getting their hopes up too much, i saw a lot of people talking about how kny would be "the best shit ever" but i never saw those ppl after the release around here with the "i told you so" . hype is a motherfucker
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 26, 2016, 07:04 PM
Yes but playing it safe in a strange way. basically what you're saying is "gore will be the best shit they ever released in their entire career. or at least it will be better than the last two albums" it's such a weird disclaimer to throw in at the last second.
it's like saying "guys tonight i will fuck one girl at the preparty, one in the club's toilet, and then fuck one in the cab home before i pass out.just watch me. That, or at least i will get a girl's telephone number." ??
i'm a bit afraid ppl are getting their hopes up too much, i saw a lot of people talking about how kny would be "the best shit ever" but i never saw those ppl after the release around here with the "i told you so" . hype is a motherfucker
Well, I can't speak for any of those other people, but personally I never had this much of an expectation for either KNY or DE.
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 26, 2016, 07:04 PM
Yes but playing it safe in a strange way. basically what you're saying is "gore will be the best shit they ever released in their entire career. or at least it will be better than the last two albums" it's such a weird disclaimer to throw in at the last second.
it's like saying "guys tonight i will fuck one girl at the preparty, one in the club's toilet, and then fuck one in the cab home before i pass out.just watch me. That, or at least i will get a girl's telephone number." ??
i'm a bit afraid ppl are getting their hopes up too much, i saw a lot of people talking about how kny would be "the best shit ever" but i never saw those ppl after the release around here with the "i told you so" . hype is a motherfucker
The difference is that what everyone is saying about the album doesn't sound like what was said about the last two.
that's true. i remain cautiously optimistic
Quote from: MrVesanique on Mar 26, 2016, 03:28 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Mar 23, 2016, 02:43 PM
Here you go...
Thanks a lot for posting.
I think this interview gives their music and live sets a new perspective. Fans (including myself obviously) have complained about the setlists for ages but truly you could make a psychological analysis out of it.
SNIP
Excellent post, pretty much totally agree.
Quote from: N0S3BLEED976 on Mar 25, 2016, 10:56 PM
It's going to be their best album yet. At least from the Sergio era. I'm pretty confident
there is no such thing as the sergio era
"there is no such thing as direction in music"
"pink cellphone isn't a song"
"there is no such thing as the sergio era"
I'm a bit curious of your next "there is no such thing as"-post, i'll admit
Quote from: from_musings on Mar 28, 2016, 11:29 AM
"there is no such thing as direction in music"
"pink cellphone isn't a song"
"there is no such thing as the sergio era"
I'm a bit curious of your next "there is no such thing as"-post, i'll admit
There's no such thing as curiosity.
the new kerrang, anyone?
http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16661.msg827803.html#msg827803 (http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16661.msg827803.html#msg827803)
Quote from: sharinglungs on Mar 28, 2016, 10:46 PM
http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16661.msg827803.html#msg827803 (http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16661.msg827803.html#msg827803)
thanks but text too small on my comp
Quote from: StaminaDaddy on Mar 28, 2016, 10:47 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Mar 28, 2016, 10:46 PM
http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16661.msg827803.html#msg827803 (http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16661.msg827803.html#msg827803)
thanks but text too small on my comp
If only there was away to zoom in on a computer...if only.
lol some obsessive fan bruising their eyes to read every single word and line, damn
Quote from: StaminaDaddy on Mar 28, 2016, 11:28 PM
lol some obsessive fan bruising their eyes to read every single word and line, damn
Guess you'll have to buy it, then. Or would that be too obsessive?
Quote from: StaminaDaddy on Mar 28, 2016, 11:28 PM
lol some obsessive fan bruising their eyes to read every single word and line, damn
Again, if only there was a way to zoom in on a computer...if only.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-kKCwWiMok (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-kKCwWiMok)
Quote from: sharinglungs on Mar 29, 2016, 02:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-kKCwWiMok (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-kKCwWiMok)
Sergio was pretty amused towards the end with how pathetic that interview was.
The interviewer just kept reading bland questions off his phone and would say "Awesome" after each response.
Quote from: pinkmaggit69 on Mar 29, 2016, 03:51 AM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Mar 29, 2016, 02:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-kKCwWiMok (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-kKCwWiMok)
Sergio was pretty amused towards the end with how pathetic that interview was.
The interviewer just kept reading bland questions off his phone and would say "Awesome" after each response.
Reminded me of the old Chris Farley SNL sketches. "That was awesome"
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Nice catch defsteve. Waiting for some good soul to translate for us. If thats not too much to ask. :)
Ty again defsteve. Kudos
My Rock / March-April (France)
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Don't know if this has been posted yet...
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/deftones-frontman-our-best-songs-are-when-its-a-really-collaborative-effort/ (http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/deftones-frontman-our-best-songs-are-when-its-a-really-collaborative-effort/)
https://youtu.be/ITs2bKcxPPE (https://youtu.be/ITs2bKcxPPE)
Pointless interview
absolutely pathetic, a bunch of sixteen year old losers.
Quote from: pinkmaggit69 on Mar 29, 2016, 03:51 AM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Mar 29, 2016, 02:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-kKCwWiMok (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-kKCwWiMok)
Sergio was pretty amused towards the end with how pathetic that interview was.
The interviewer just kept reading bland questions off his phone and would say "Awesome" after each response.
Sergio definitely got a kick out of how bland that interview was!
His reactions had me rolling too!
"elevated state of mind"
ooo he made a funny
Quote from: geraavl08 on Mar 29, 2016, 08:48 PM
https://youtu.be/ITs2bKcxPPE (https://youtu.be/ITs2bKcxPPE)
Pointless interview
This interview had me cringing the whole time. He cant ask questions and doesnt even know what the right questions are, literally everything hes asked EVER news reporter has already stated (besides Sergios love for Legend of Kora) .. What made me cringe the most and made me almost die was at the end when he said it was over and both Chino and Sergio are like really? Any other questions? Jesus Christ this dude..
In new Metal Hammer (UK)
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they do a lot of press, definitely a major label band
he sold out to dabs
so did this tat on my penis. yall dig?
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Quote from: defsteve on Mar 29, 2016, 09:08 AM
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for all my german speaking Deftones fans... here is the Visions feature!
Might scan the pages tomorrow!
Too lazy to translate :)
http://imgur.com/a/JWsli (http://imgur.com/a/JWsli)
Quote from: beaverwithfishyshoes on Mar 30, 2016, 03:52 PM
so did this tat on my penis. yall dig?
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Classic.
The road to the release of Deftones' eighth full-length album "Gore" has been a rocky one as far as the press is concerned. There were missed release dates thanks to issues with mixing. Then the details for the album were leaked months in advance thanks to a journalist's screencap, forcing the band to readjust their rollout strategy. And of course, there was the elephant in the room: the negative comments guitarist Stephen Carpenter made about his initial lack of interest in taking part in the writing sessions.
A solid listen to "Gore" is all it takes to assure you that Carpenter did indeed show up on the effort. His crushing input populates a number of the included songs, and not just here and there. He may be somewhat underutilized to a small degree, but he certainly makes his presence felt. What stands out most about "Gore" though isn't his aggression or frontman Chino Moreno's melancholic shades of new wave and sparkling alt rock. No, it's the spacious room to breathe and fine attention paid to the smaller details in each song.
For "Gore" the band decided to write at their own pace, getting together numerous times over the period of a few months to put the effort together. You can tell there was no looming deadline or clock ticking on studio time. Sure they may have traded some parts back and forth via a Dropbox or the like, but refreshingly you can feel that these songs were worked on in a room together. It's this unencumbered style of songwriting and freedom to analyze and refine things over time that makes up the connective tissue of this release.
Because on "Gore" the Deftones feel more like an actual band than they have in years. A scrappier, almost happier version of themselves, flush with gnarled guitars, emotional outbursts and intricate details. No one element or idea pervades the album. It's a diverse collection of songs, that often at their core, sound like a mutated strain of 90's space rock that somehow got mixed up with chunky modern metal.
There's gnawing guitar parts, big looming riffs, a deeper oomph thanks to Sergio Vega's utilization of a Bass VI and some understated—yet no less crucial—work by drummer Abe Cunningham and sampler/programmer Frank Delgado. Indeed it's the little things that shine brightest this time out, be it the hushed drumming techniques Cunningham opens "Hearts/Wires" with, the guitar squeals that pop up in "Xenon" or Delgado's ever jittering ambiance regularly hovering just out of reach.
There's even times, such as on album highlight "Rubicon", where the band can feel like a busier, more embittered version of Failure. It's all Deftones to be sure, but more confident and substantial. Thanks to the wealth of organic interplay, it doesn't feel Frankensteined together like so many other albums these days.
So much of "Gore" has a nervous pulsing energy. Be it spacey and majestic or gleefully destructive, the band have delivered a scratchy guitar-filled opus that captures the better traits of their past few albums and adds a humbling amount of gravity and excitement. They're trying out new things and the results are interesting and heady. From obtuse ethereal riffs to Vega's drifting bass on "Phantom Bride" sounding like he took cliff notes from Glassjaw's "Coloring Book".
That track in particular also features a soaring guest appearance from Alice In Chains' Jerry Cantrell, who emerges mid-song, cutting through the ethereal haze with some tastefully soulful licks that could have sprung out of the fingers of Satriani or Vai. What's interesting in particular about his cameo isn't just the sense of levity and contrast it brings to the track. It's that it almost goes to war against Carpenter's sinister chug that comes like an approaching thunderstorm near the end.
As with any Deftones release, "Gore" isn't an album that you'll easily digest. It's something you'll likely be dissecting and finding new puzzle pieces for with each listen for weeks to come. A brave display of just how far this band have come since their nu metal days and definitive proof that the creative flame they share is still burning bright. Wookubus -The Prp
http://www.zona-zero.net/RockZone/16/04 (http://www.zona-zero.net/RockZone/16/04)
Interview with Frank. Page 28. I could translate the text, but i am too lazy... hahaha. Perhaps most interesting part is about Eros, although he doesn't say anything new, the record is incomplete.
Rock Hard France - March 2016
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damn, that lay-out is straight out of 2001
Not sure if this has been posted but it's a good read :
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/deftones-talk-new-album-band-tension-we-like-unnerving-feelings-20160401?page=2 (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/deftones-talk-new-album-band-tension-we-like-unnerving-feelings-20160401?page=2)
Quote from: Brice on Apr 01, 2016, 04:38 PM
Rock Hard France - March 2016
Thanks for the scan!
Quote from: MrVesanique on Apr 02, 2016, 03:44 AM
Quote from: Brice on Apr 01, 2016, 04:38 PM
Essentially (interview dates Feb 1) :
Thanks, man, lots of cool things said. So it was Matt and Terry? Interesting. Unless when they mentioned not being happy with Matt's mix, they decided to Terry? I don't know.
New release, don't have the scan...
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"Chino plays guitar on every track, except Doomed User"
I've been wondering about that. Same deal as KNY then.
Quote from: MrVesanique on Apr 02, 2016, 03:44 AM-If I'm reading this well, Terry Date mixed the album. He added touches to a few tracks in between the Paris events and now, although the album was ready prior to the tour
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61cFQI7z4QL._SL1200_.jpg (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61cFQI7z4QL._SL1200_.jpg)
"Mixed by Matt Hyde"
I thought they abandoned the Terry Date mix and went back with Matt Hyde, and did the mix back from scratch.
That back inlay artwork looks fake
Has this already been posted here?
http://www.spin.com/2016/04/spin-interview-deftones-gore-new-album/ (http://www.spin.com/2016/04/spin-interview-deftones-gore-new-album/)
Quote from: punkflop01 on Apr 04, 2016, 02:37 PM
Has this already been posted here?
http://www.spin.com/2016/04/spin-interview-deftones-gore-new-album/ (http://www.spin.com/2016/04/spin-interview-deftones-gore-new-album/)
Thanks for posting this. Interesting interview, especially what he said about Bored, and the guy wanting them to change the title, and how they like their titles to be more artistic and captivating. They've definitely done that, I love their titles.
Gotta love the 'nervous laughter' when talking about Pink Cellphone. hahahaha
Quote from: punkflop01 on Apr 04, 2016, 03:17 PM
Gotta love the 'nervous laughter' when talking about Pink Cellphone. hahahaha
generates some pretty graphic images in your mind
http://www.upsetmagazine.com/features/deftones-still-argue-lot/ (http://www.upsetmagazine.com/features/deftones-still-argue-lot/)
Quote from: ANattyRat on Apr 06, 2016, 09:31 AM
http://www.upsetmagazine.com/features/deftones-still-argue-lot/ (http://www.upsetmagazine.com/features/deftones-still-argue-lot/)
Deftones in Upset Magazine!
Great article/interview with Chino Moreno, 'Gore' review and Deftones on front/back cover.
"With their new album 'Gore' out this week, Chino Moreno gets in depth about the record and the internal push and pull that helps keep them at the cutting edge. Deftones don't release bad records, and – no shock – they're not about to start now, either."
Read here: https://issuu.com/upsetmag/docs/upset__april_2016 (https://issuu.com/upsetmag/docs/upset__april_2016)
(page 1,4, 20-27, 41, 64)
Quote from: deftfan on Apr 06, 2016, 12:31 PM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Apr 06, 2016, 09:31 AM
http://www.upsetmagazine.com/features/deftones-still-argue-lot/ (http://www.upsetmagazine.com/features/deftones-still-argue-lot/)
Deftones in Upset Magazine!
Great article/interview with Chino Moreno, 'Gore' review and Deftones on front/back cover.
"With their new album 'Gore' out this week, Chino Moreno gets in depth about the record and the internal push and pull that helps keep them at the cutting edge. Deftones don't release bad records, and – no shock – they're not about to start now, either."
Read here: https://issuu.com/upsetmag/docs/upset__april_2016 (https://issuu.com/upsetmag/docs/upset__april_2016)
(page 1,4, 20-27, 41, 64)
Thanks, this interview sort of answers my question why the songs are more "Chino" driven and why stephen usually makes his mark in the end of many tracks. He joined the writing process later on.
Deftones 2016
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here a a couple of new press pictures in high quality!
please don't make posters with stupid links out of these beautiful images :)
(http://www.warnermusic.de/sites/warnermusic.de/files/news/images/deftones_new_press_picture_2016.jpg)
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Quote from: dawg on Apr 06, 2016, 07:38 PM
here a a couple of new press pictures in high quality!
please don't make posters with stupid links out of these beautiful images :)
Thanks :)
2 more (one in no HQ):
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Thanks for sharing. Love the b/w snow and indoor one.
Quote from: deftfan on Apr 06, 2016, 12:31 PM
Quote from: ANattyRat on Apr 06, 2016, 09:31 AM
http://www.upsetmagazine.com/features/deftones-still-argue-lot/ (http://www.upsetmagazine.com/features/deftones-still-argue-lot/)
Deftones in Upset Magazine!
Great article/interview with Chino Moreno, 'Gore' review and Deftones on front/back cover.
"With their new album 'Gore' out this week, Chino Moreno gets in depth about the record and the internal push and pull that helps keep them at the cutting edge. Deftones don't release bad records, and – no shock – they're not about to start now, either."
Read here: https://issuu.com/upsetmag/docs/upset__april_2016 (https://issuu.com/upsetmag/docs/upset__april_2016)
(page 1,4, 20-27, 41, 64)
HQ images from all pages with Deftones download here: http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/Deftones_UpsetApril2016_by_defzone.rar (http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/Deftones_UpsetApril2016_by_defzone.rar)
http://www.fuse.tv/2016/04/deftones-influence-bands#1 (http://www.fuse.tv/2016/04/deftones-influence-bands#1)
Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 06, 2016, 11:49 PM
http://www.fuse.tv/2016/04/deftones-influence-bands#1 (http://www.fuse.tv/2016/04/deftones-influence-bands#1)
I expected Glassjaw on that list.
Interesting interview with Frank about Justin Bieber, Australia tour, Gore and more...
by Emmy Mack
Date: April 7, 2016
http://musicfeeds.com.au/features/deftones-frank-delgado-chats-justin-bieber-collabs-touring-australia-life-paris-attacks/ (http://musicfeeds.com.au/features/deftones-frank-delgado-chats-justin-bieber-collabs-touring-australia-life-paris-attacks/)
Quote from: deftfan on Apr 06, 2016, 07:21 PM
Deftones 2016
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DON'T SELL
Should have had the real logo and centered properly.
Has anyone gotten their hands on the latest issue of Kerrang with the band on the cover yet? Sounded like that story/interview was going to be a doozy..
Quote from: NYRexall on Apr 09, 2016, 08:48 AM
Has anyone gotten their hands on the latest issue of Kerrang with the band on the cover yet? Sounded like that story/interview was going to be a doozy..
There's a full scan a few pages back in this thread. Here ya go... http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16661.3000.html (http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16661.3000.html)
Quote from: sing blue silver on Apr 09, 2016, 03:19 PM
Quote from: NYRexall on Apr 09, 2016, 08:48 AM
Has anyone gotten their hands on the latest issue of Kerrang with the band on the cover yet? Sounded like that story/interview was going to be a doozy..
There's a full scan a few pages back in this thread. Here ya go... http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16661.3000.html (http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,16661.3000.html)
Appreciate it, dude! I scoped back a few pages to see if it had been posted but I guess I missed it..
https://chorus.fm/interviews/abe-cunningham-of-deftones/
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/go-behind-the-scenes-of-deftones-prayers-triangles-music-video-20160411 (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/go-behind-the-scenes-of-deftones-prayers-triangles-music-video-20160411)
Quote from: feast on Apr 11, 2016, 06:54 PM
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/go-behind-the-scenes-of-deftones-prayers-triangles-music-video-20160411 (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/go-behind-the-scenes-of-deftones-prayers-triangles-music-video-20160411)
I like the images.. Can so. rip this please?
Can someone scan the photograph located above to the right, found on vinyl, please? the pic of flamingos :D
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/2/1705/26083749140_a8e0ccf067_z.jpg)
http://thequietus.com/articles/20026-deftones-interview (http://thequietus.com/articles/20026-deftones-interview)
Deftones - Cum On Your Face would be a badass songtitle lol
Stellar review : http://prettymuchamazing.com/reviews/deftones-gore (http://prettymuchamazing.com/reviews/deftones-gore)
Stephen Carpenter by Chad Lee.
2004, 2006 & 2007.
The rest is here : http://www.chadleephotography.com/portfolio/deftones-guitarist-stephen-carpenter-portrait-sessions/ (http://www.chadleephotography.com/portfolio/deftones-guitarist-stephen-carpenter-portrait-sessions/)
(http://www.chadleephotography.com/wp-content/gallery/deftones-stephen-carpenter-2007/5-16-07-stephen-carpenter-.jpg) (http://www.chadleephotography.com/wp-content/gallery/deftones-stephen-carpenter-2006/12-12-06-stephen-carpenter-.jpg) (http://www.chadleephotography.com/wp-content/gallery/deftones-stephen-carpenter-2006/12-12-06-stephen-carpenter-2919.jpg) (http://www.chadleephotography.com/wp-content/gallery/deftones-stephen-carpenter-2006/12-12-06-stephen-carpenter-2.jpg) (http://www.chadleephotography.com/wp-content/gallery/deftones-guitarist-stephen-carpenter-portraits-2004/10-26-04-stephen-carpenter-8753.jpg)
Stephen doesn't really age, does he?
He has some sexy ass guitars
I hope this hasn't been posted before already: http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/apr/14/deftones-it-took-a-tragedy-for-us-to-really-reconnect (http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/apr/14/deftones-it-took-a-tragedy-for-us-to-really-reconnect)
Quote from: zukixgor9 on Apr 11, 2016, 09:11 PM
Can someone scan the photograph located above to the right, found on vinyl, please? the pic of flamingos :D
(https://c5.staticflickr.com/2/1705/26083749140_a8e0ccf067_z.jpg)
pleasee
Quote from: WickedBreath on Apr 14, 2016, 05:54 PM
I hope this hasn't been posted before already: http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/apr/14/deftones-it-took-a-tragedy-for-us-to-really-reconnect (http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/apr/14/deftones-it-took-a-tragedy-for-us-to-really-reconnect)
Very good read. I'm afraid they will withdraw S/T and SNW songs form their live setlists. S/T probably is the most underrated Deftones work.
Quote from: Jorge on Apr 14, 2016, 06:52 PM
Quote from: WickedBreath on Apr 14, 2016, 05:54 PM
I hope this hasn't been posted before already: http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/apr/14/deftones-it-took-a-tragedy-for-us-to-really-reconnect (http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/apr/14/deftones-it-took-a-tragedy-for-us-to-really-reconnect)
Very good read. I'm afraid they will withdraw S/T and SNW songs form their live setlists. S/T probably is the most underrated Deftones work.
They won't. Hell, they play Hexagram and Bloody Cape somewhat frequently at least. They played WGTB on their tour with Incubus a lot. The other songs, yeah, pretty much, and same with Saturday Night Wrist. But will they completely stop playing songs from those albums? Nah. Dudes played Combat for the first time because some fans told them they should play some rare songs. They played RIVIERE!!!! Consistently. When I saw them, they played Hole in the Earth, Kimdracula, Cherry Waves and Riviere. That's a lot of songs from an album Chino hates playing songs from. They'll do it, just not so often.
Battle-Axe, Deathblow? That's another story. Love those songs, I hope they play those songs at least once in the future. Doubtful, though. Some of the songs from those two albums aren't dark and depressing despite it being at a difficult time for the band, so I guess those are the ones they're more willing to play. Which pretty much erases those two songs I mentioned, haha.
I'm looking for these 2 magazines (pdf, scannes, jpg, whatever):
DRUM! May 2016 (on sale already)
http://www.drummagazine.com/issues/post/may-2016/ (http://www.drummagazine.com/issues/post/may-2016/)
"Abe Cunningham
Holding a band together for more than two decades can be serious business,
but when it comes down to playing, the Deftones' drummer just wants to have fun.
BY ANDREW LENTZ"
(http://www.drummagazine.com/images/issues/med/D239-DRUM-may-2016.jpg)
Revolver April/May 2016 (on sale already)
http://www.revolvermag.com/news/new-issue-preview-revolver-aprilmay-2016.html (http://www.revolvermag.com/news/new-issue-preview-revolver-aprilmay-2016.html)
"Chino Moreno and his bandmates find the beauty and balance in nature while creating their latest, Gore."
Preview: http://www.revolvermag.com/news/interview-deftones-chino-moreno-on-gore-recording-process.html (http://www.revolvermag.com/news/interview-deftones-chino-moreno-on-gore-recording-process.html)
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0101/0572/products/Zakk_cover_grande.jpg?v=1459262638)
Anyone, help? PLEASE ::)
Quote from: ANattyRat on Apr 14, 2016, 07:13 PM
Quote from: Jorge on Apr 14, 2016, 06:52 PM
Quote from: WickedBreath on Apr 14, 2016, 05:54 PM
I hope this hasn't been posted before already: http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/apr/14/deftones-it-took-a-tragedy-for-us-to-really-reconnect (http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/apr/14/deftones-it-took-a-tragedy-for-us-to-really-reconnect)
Very good read. I'm afraid they will withdraw S/T and SNW songs form their live setlists. S/T probably is the most underrated Deftones work.
They won't. Hell, they play Hexagram and Bloody Cape somewhat frequently at least. They played WGTB on their tour with Incubus a lot. The other songs, yeah, pretty much, and same with Saturday Night Wrist. But will they completely stop playing songs from those albums? Nah. Dudes played Combat for the first time because some fans told them they should play some rare songs. They played RIVIERE!!!! Consistently. When I saw them, they played Hole in the Earth, Kimdracula, Cherry Waves and Riviere. That's a lot of songs from an album Chino hates playing songs from. They'll do it, just not so often.
Battle-Axe, Deathblow? That's another story. Love those songs, I hope they play those songs at least once in the future. Doubtful, though. Some of the songs from those two albums aren't dark and depressing despite it being at a difficult time for the band, so I guess those are the ones they're more willing to play. Which pretty much erases those two songs I mentioned, haha.
Sure they often play Hexagram and Bloody Cape. Recently they also played WGTB and Needles and Pins but Battle-Axe and Deathblow should be a must, I love those songs.
You lucky bastard! HITE, Kimdracula, Cherry Waves and Riviére on the same show?
New interview: https://youtu.be/0JyjNIWEWY0
Quote from: WickedBreath on Apr 15, 2016, 05:43 PM
New interview: https://youtu.be/0JyjNIWEWY0
Guy says he read all the interviews, asks the same questions...
couldn't bear it longer than thirty seconds, what an awkward dude, seemed nervous as shit
yes he was. initially I felt the same way, but no need to worry... chino notices the interviewers level of retardation rather quickly, and then chino carries the interview on his shoulders through out the whole thing. you can watch it it's ok
hahahahaha
Here is a review from German Metal Hammer magazine.
The next issue will feature a long interview.
(http://i.imgur.com/XRrL8X8.jpg)
Review from Polish magazine "Teraz Rock".
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewTerazRock042016_by_deftfan.png)
"Revolver Magazine's 'World's Loudest Podcast': Episode 22 - Deftones and More.
Chino Moreno and Sergio Vega (bassist) talks about 'Gore,' band chemistry, touring with Code Orange, and more."
This Interview is from 17 March but posted on April 18 by REVOLVER Magazine.
Listen on Soundcloud - Deftones interview starts from 8:50 min to 16:58 min.
https://soundcloud.com/revolver-magazine-1/sxsw-eone-cast
Just came across this, dunno if it was posted before. The interview is all blurred out but I like the image.
(http://www.rocksound.tv/assets/uploads/deftones_212spread.jpg)
Here is an article from German Metal Hammer magazine.
Interesting point:
Chino asksed Stephen if he should hire a guitar player for his parts for the next tour because he still thinks he can't play that good. But Stephen said to him if he can do it on the record, he can do it live too.
(http://i.imgur.com/45Gcez3.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/NQc07u0.jpg)
Chino also did an interview with them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JyjNIWEWY0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JyjNIWEWY0)
Quote from: MrVesanique on Apr 23, 2016, 10:14 AM
Dawg, could you translate the part about Gore and Chi, please?
So the second to last question is, if there is a song about Chi on Gore?
Chinos answer: Not directly. We have not written a song with such purpose. Something I do not anyway: I do not write a piece with a precast idea. When writing I try not to call a spade a spade/not to call things as they are. Sometimes I discover connections later on, but that just happens- and it's much nicer, just because we did not intend to. Nevertheless Chis death really touched us internally and creatively and seeps through in everything we do. There is no other way, because he played a major role in the founding of our band. But we did not written anything on purpose.
Deftones in Rolling Stone India Magazine (February 2016)
"Exclusive Interview: Deftones
American alt metal band's vocalist Chino Moreno on their next album, crazy stage antics and collaborations..."
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Quote from: dawg on Apr 23, 2016, 09:57 AM
Here is an article from German Metal Hammer magazine.
Interesting point:
Chino asksed Stephen if he should hire a guitar player for his parts for the next tour because he still thinks he can't play that good. But Stephen said to him if he can do it on the record, he can do it live too.
(http://i.imgur.com/45Gcez3.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/NQc07u0.jpg)
Chino also did an interview with them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JyjNIWEWY0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JyjNIWEWY0)
C doesn't believe in his own guitar playing for this tour or Stef's? I believe he means his own is that obviously correct? Only reason I ask is because of the way it was worded and he could have been screwing around with him I dont know lol
A lot of the songs sound like they can be played with one just one guitar anyway, except for Hearts/Wires and maybe (L)mirl. I've wondered if thats why they didn't play a lot of KNY because Chino supposedly played on most of it too. And a lot of those songs sound like they could be played with just one guitar as well, I still don't understand why Chino plays on Swerve City if he's not going to play that solo
He has played the solo.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Apr 26, 2016, 06:22 PM
He has played the solo.
Don't suppose you have a vid to that do you? Any vid I've seen it was Frank playing it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBntFjw4oOU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBntFjw4oOU)
On the record and live, it's Frank and Chino layered.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Apr 26, 2016, 06:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBntFjw4oOU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBntFjw4oOU)
On the record and live, it's Frank and Chino layered.
Cool man, thanks!
Quote from: DEFinatelydeftones,fsho on Apr 26, 2016, 05:52 PM
Quote from: dawg on Apr 23, 2016, 09:57 AM
Here is an article from German Metal Hammer magazine.
Interesting point:
Chino asked Stephen if he should hire a guitar player for his parts for the next tour because he still thinks he can't play that good. But Stephen said to him if he can do it on the record, he can do it live too.
Chino also did an interview with them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JyjNIWEWY0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JyjNIWEWY0)
C doesn't believe in his own guitar playing for this tour or Stef's? I believe he means his own is that obviously correct? Only reason I ask is because of the way it was worded and he could have been screwing around with him I dont know lol
Chino thinks he should hire someone for his parts to focus on vocals.
That's pretty interesting. I think I wouldn't have minded that. Seems like he's dropped the guitar for Rubicon though. Wonder if he'll do the same for other songs.
Thanx Dawg. Weird it wld b tho imo
http://exclaim.ca/music/article/deftones-beauty_and_brutality (http://exclaim.ca/music/article/deftones-beauty_and_brutality)
http://loudwire.com/deftones-chino-moreno-interview-gore-album-influences-chi-cheng/ (http://loudwire.com/deftones-chino-moreno-interview-gore-album-influences-chi-cheng/)
Quote from: defsteve on Apr 28, 2016, 09:05 AM
http://exclaim.ca/music/article/deftones-beauty_and_brutality (http://exclaim.ca/music/article/deftones-beauty_and_brutality)
Thank you so much for this lovely article. It included some genuinely brand new information to me and felt exhaustive through and through.
never knew they were blamed for starting a riot lol
Quote from: Freedomsoldier17 on Apr 29, 2016, 01:19 PM
never knew they were blamed for starting a riot lol
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10 'Gore' reviews from various magazines:
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201605GoreReviewUncut_page71deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201605GoreReviewRollingStoneUS_page61deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201605GoreReviewRollingStoneAUS_page98deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201604GoreReviewUPSET_page41deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201604GoreReviewTheSkinny_page38deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201604GoreReviewTheMusic_page32deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201604GoreReviewRollingStoneINDIA_page49deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201604GoreReviewRamzine_page17deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201604GoreReviewLasVegasWeekly_page64deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201604GoreReviewDIY_page67deftfan.jpg)
Quote from: deftfan on May 01, 2016, 02:55 PM
10 'Gore' reviews from various magazines:
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201605GoreReviewUncut_page71deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201605GoreReviewRollingStoneUS_page61deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201605GoreReviewRollingStoneAUS_page98deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201604GoreReviewUPSET_page41deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201604GoreReviewTheSkinny_page38deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201604GoreReviewTheMusic_page32deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201604GoreReviewRollingStoneINDIA_page49deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201604GoreReviewRamzine_page17deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201604GoreReviewLasVegasWeekly_page64deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201604GoreReviewDIY_page67deftfan.jpg)
That's pretty interesting.
i was like "i swear if someone quotes that post"
Quote from: Penicks on May 01, 2016, 04:07 PM
i was like "i swear if someone quotes that post"
Happens every single time.
Quote from: krook on May 01, 2016, 04:02 PM
Quote from: deftfan on May 01, 2016, 02:55 PM
10 'Gore' reviews from various magazines:
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201605GoreReviewUncut_page71deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201605GoreReviewRollingStoneUS_page61deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201605GoreReviewRollingStoneAUS_page98deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201604GoreReviewUPSET_page41deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201604GoreReviewTheSkinny_page38deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201604GoreReviewTheMusic_page32deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201604GoreReviewRollingStoneINDIA_page49deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201604GoreReviewRamzine_page17deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201604GoreReviewLasVegasWeekly_page64deftfan.jpg)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/GoreReviewsMags/201604GoreReviewDIY_page67deftfan.jpg)
That's pretty interesting.
i agree
Sergio Vega in The Red Bulletin UK magazine (April, 2016)
"...we asked bassist Sergio Vega to list five tracks that have inspired him; it was no surprise when,
instead of rock classics, he chose tunes that he loves to play in his DJ sets."
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/201604TheRedBulletin_SergioVega_Page88deftfan.jpg)
"Look At My Dab" from Migos... If I see them (or even just Sergio) dab on stage during a song, I won't know what to think
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/TerazRock/TerazRock201605_page00_deftfan.jpg)
Interview with Sergio Vega in Teraz Rock (Polish magazine, May 2016)
Nothing really new in this interview but in short:
- Stephen had problems during the recording of 'Gore'. He wanted to deal with own personal stuff when the rest wanted to work.
- Stephen does not impose hard play, all band members invent heavy and lighter riffs.
- Despite the fact that they live far away from each other, they remain in touch as often as possible.
- Quicksand is like a family for Sergio.
- About Chi: "...in a sense, Chi never left the band. He is always present: in conversations, memories...
We still feel his energy ... we still mourn him but on the other hand we feel relieved that he does not suffer anymore. "
- On 'Gore ' Sergio plays on 6-string bass, "the Fender VI" - a unique instrument.
- About the album cover of 'Gore ': "... the word 'Gore ' surrounded by flying flamingos captures for me is the essence of our band.
It is energy, is beauty, movement and violence. We're not bleeding as horror films, but we're definitely violent. We like, sometimes blow up something."
Download HQ images here - only Polish language ('save as'):
http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/TerazRock/201605/ (http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/TerazRock/201605/)
http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2016/05/03/476636845/deftones-chino-moreno-on-surviving-evolving-and-gore (http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2016/05/03/476636845/deftones-chino-moreno-on-surviving-evolving-and-gore)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/DeftonesMags/201605_Status_page00_deftfan.jpg)
New interview with Frank Delgado in Status magazine (May, 2016)
by Denise Mallabo: "I only had 15 minutes to ask Frank Delgado everything I wanted to know about their eighth album Gore,
and any update that he can give me about what's going on with the band. I was also able to ask about Chi Cheng,
which I almost did not due to the sensitivity of the subject but I did apologize before asking the question.
He did give me a really good answer to it and I'm glad I took the risk."
HQ images here ('save as'): http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/DeftonesMags/201605Status/ (http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/DeftonesMags/201605Status/)
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/deftones-drummer-on-late-bassist-chi-cheng-i-miss-that-dude-more-than-anything/ (http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/deftones-drummer-on-late-bassist-chi-cheng-i-miss-that-dude-more-than-anything/)
Quote from: shine down unshy on May 04, 2016, 12:14 AM
http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2016/05/03/476636845/deftones-chino-moreno-on-surviving-evolving-and-gore (http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2016/05/03/476636845/deftones-chino-moreno-on-surviving-evolving-and-gore)
chino once said that he listened to morrissey during the making of gore. in a subsequent interview, the interviewer said that he heard morrissey influences, something chino thought was a sign that he was referring to something chino had said, nothing the interviewer actually heard.
there are many who think there are obvious influences on gore, never words about theft, just clear influences. more so than on previous records. Never before have threads been created with "proud parents of gore" where bands like failure, jane's addiction, björk,sade, etc., have been mentioned.some people have said "sounds like deftones play cover songs" and even if not all think deftones now are imitators, that opinion has been expressed.Long story short - there are obvious and clear influences on gore.
When Daniel P Carter brought up that he heard björk and messugah in gore,chino tackles that comment with bringing up that morrissey story again. He didn't answer the fact that daniel heard influences - he dodges the bullet by talking about an another interviewer.strange behaviour?
Now in this interview,chino again get the question about the influences on gore. does he answer it properly? No, he once again brings up the morrissey incident, that the reason interviewers ask about influences on the gore is only because chino once mentioned morrissey. the fact that people actually hear clear influences, that's just something chino waves off like annoying mosquitos in his face. why does this seem to bother chino? is chino himself annoyd by that he isn't an innovator anymore, that he is becoming an imitator? not saying he is, but he himself seems ashamed or at least bothered by it
I think when chino sings to a stephen based song, it rarely sounds like anything else.take wp for instance - stephen songs like feiticeira and korea, never heard anyone say that it sounds like other bands. Helmet lyrics, sure, but not the music. When chino-songs such as digital bath and knife prty are brought up, you can hear and read about the chords to digital bath being the same as samshing pumpkin's daphne descends, and that knife prty has the same beginning as little dipper by hum.
if they want to continue to be pioneers and evovle, imo it's best to use steph ideas in the future . I like gore, a lot, but looking forward to see a lot more steph songs. it is probably more difficult for him to add and come up with something to an idea that chino and sergio brought to life...than to get chino and sergio work on a stef idea.that's when more typical deftones sound will form - expand and be weirder or whatever on that.
chino - if you don't want people to ask about influences on a record, stop using so much of them. if you can't write a song without sounding like someone else, excite,encourage and praise stef - fuel and grease up the old stef machinery. if you can't do that,leak eros lol
http://youtu.be/ySGiX00xjpE (http://youtu.be/ySGiX00xjpE)
Quote from: deftfan on May 11, 2016, 06:40 PM
http://youtu.be/ySGiX00xjpE (http://youtu.be/ySGiX00xjpE)
Lol "Dream sleep"
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2016, fucking hell
Quote from: Penicks on May 11, 2016, 08:17 PM
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2016, fucking hell
https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/ (https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/)
Worked there for me.
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Quote from: Penicks on May 11, 2016, 08:17 PM
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2016, fucking hell
https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/ (https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/)
Worked there for me.
...just becuse i added some scenscens from P/T video...but yes, on FB works fine.
https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/videos/1190756130944155/ (https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/videos/1190756130944155/)
"long time friend" "front man of bands like DREAM Sleep....."
I'm sick of all these interviews where they ask the exact same questions... as if they just check other recent interviews and ask the same questions. It's fair enough asking the normal questions but it gets fucking ridiculous when every interviewer asks "this was supposed to be released last September, why was it pushed back?" WE FUCKING KNOW WHY ALREADY AND NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ANYWAY.
http://www.youtu.be/tLTzbVrkTIQ (http://www.youtu.be/tLTzbVrkTIQ)
Interview with Abe Cunningham and Frank Delgado on LA Rock 105.5 Radio (May 8, 2016).
"Talked about my two favorite songs off their new album Gore and sports."
by Mica Rock during Carolina Rebellion 2016 festival in Concord, NC.
Video created by: deftfan
Enjoy :)
Quote from: sooniletugo on May 14, 2016, 08:17 AM
I'm sick of all these interviews where they ask the exact same questions... as if they just check other recent interviews and ask the same questions. It's fair enough asking the normal questions but it gets fucking ridiculous when every interviewer asks "this was supposed to be released last September, why was it pushed back?" WE FUCKING KNOW WHY ALREADY AND NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ANYWAY.
Gore pushed back
Eros
Chi
Morrissey influence
Every Deftones interview now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZgGL27PZ-k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZgGL27PZ-k)
DEFTONES' Abe Cunningham on 'Gore', Experimentation, Taking Risks & Touring (2016)
Sorry if this one has been posted already.. I Haden't seen it yet..
https://youtu.be/kEFKoFM5z08
Quote from: E-Money on May 23, 2016, 06:16 PM
Sorry if this one has been posted already.. I Haden't seen it yet..
https://youtu.be/kEFKoFM5z08
Spotted it a few days ago...such a weird interview, at least the start...
https://munchies.vice.com/en/articles/we-ate-bbq-with-the-deftones-and-talked-about-tour-life (https://munchies.vice.com/en/articles/we-ate-bbq-with-the-deftones-and-talked-about-tour-life)
http://www.theprp.com/2016/06/10/news/deftones-bassist-sergio-vega-thinks-nu-metal-construct-actual-scene/ (http://www.theprp.com/2016/06/10/news/deftones-bassist-sergio-vega-thinks-nu-metal-construct-actual-scene/)
Great explanation he pointed out (even though he wasn't in the band during that time) about the band still being connected to that so called genre. I totally agree.
Loved how he said they approach It all.
It's amazing how people still lump them in with some of those shit bands. I understand they were on the rise during the same time as some of them but come on.
New interview
http://youtu.be/IV2108dZOss (http://youtu.be/IV2108dZOss)
Interview w/ Matt Hyde on producing new Deftones Gore record
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duK2_nfD5CM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duK2_nfD5CM)
Download interview.
https://youtu.be/xauqgKl0Yws
Interview with Chino Moreno and Sergio Vega on 'Rock Show with Daniel P Carter'
done at Download Festival, England (June 11, 2016)
Broadcast June 19, 2016 in BBC Radio 1.
https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/videos/1215287555157679/ (https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/videos/1215287555157679/)
Interview with Chino from Download Festival, UK in last Kerrang! (11 June, 2016)
"From Wembley to Donington in one monumental week for Sacramento's greatest...""
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7dDG_93h3MkbnQ1MW03OVNfSm8/view (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7dDG_93h3MkbnQ1MW03OVNfSm8/view) [Full size image (1300x1766)]
'Chino Moreno offers insight into his synaesthesia-like thought process and how it inspires Deftones' music...'
by Christina O'Neill (June 22, 2016)
http://teamrock.com/news/2016-06-22/deftones-frontman-chino-moreno-details-his-sensory-songwriting-gift (http://teamrock.com/news/2016-06-22/deftones-frontman-chino-moreno-details-his-sensory-songwriting-gift)
New kerrang? I saw a review from wembley show. Thx
Quote from: White Wrist on Jun 23, 2016, 12:55 PM
New kerrang? I saw a review from wembley show. Thx
Deftones live review from The SSE Arena, Wembley, London (3 June, 2016) in new Kerrang! (22 June, 2016)
"Sacramento's finest continue to amaze us all as they finally come to conquer Wembley.""
Full size image (2542x1726) DOWNLOAD here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7dDG_93h3MkSDBoMTJvR29lRXc/view
Download 2016 interview with Abe and Frank (AND SOMEONE'S GODDAMNED CELLPHONE xD).
https://youtu.be/HsYtzsqYCKU
New interview with Chino in The Aquarian Weekly newspaper.
"An Interview With Deftones: Always Reacting."
by Robert Gluck (August 3, 2016)
http://www.theaquarian.com/2016/08/03/an-interview-with-deftones-always-reacting-2/ (http://www.theaquarian.com/2016/08/03/an-interview-with-deftones-always-reacting-2/)
Another new interview with Chino in Paper Magazine.
"Deftones' Chino Moreno On Performing In A Volcano And Growing The Band's Live Show."
by Iliana Kaplan (August 5, 2016)
http://www.papermag.com/deftones-1960592769.html (http://www.papermag.com/deftones-1960592769.html)
Quote from: deftfan on Aug 06, 2016, 02:33 PM
New interview with Chino in The Aquarian Weekly newspaper.
"An Interview With Deftones: Always Reacting."
by Robert Gluck (August 3, 2016)
http://www.theaquarian.com/2016/08/03/an-interview-with-deftones-always-reacting-2/ (http://www.theaquarian.com/2016/08/03/an-interview-with-deftones-always-reacting-2/)
Another new interview with Chino in Paper Magazine.
"Deftones' Chino Moreno On Performing In A Volcano And Growing The Band's Live Show."
by Iliana Kaplan (August 5, 2016)
http://www.papermag.com/deftones-1960592769.html (http://www.papermag.com/deftones-1960592769.html)
I call bullshit on them playing Phantom Bride live lol. The last question of that second interview is going to make people think Chino wants Frank out of the band now. Can't wait to see the press take off with it.
Well...how else are we supposed to take that? That's basically exactly what he's saying. The fuck else is Frank going to do? Play the cowbell? I'm sure Chino will downplay it or say he was taken out of context in future interviews. Hopefully he's just talking out of his ass.
And Chino, on the (admittedly microscopic) off chance that you're reading...awful, awful idea. Sorry, mate, but are you fucking serious? Frank has always added a whole new dimension to the band. And frankly (no pun intended), songs where he's downplayed (Doomed User, Gore, Beware, etc.) can really, really use him.
I guess that would make quite a few people on this board happy, maybe they'll finally write Adrenaline 2.0
Quote from: deftfan on Aug 06, 2016, 02:33 PM
Another new interview with Chino in Paper Magazine.
"Deftones' Chino Moreno On Performing In A Volcano And Growing The Band's Live Show."
by Iliana Kaplan (August 5, 2016)
http://www.papermag.com/deftones-1960592769.html (http://www.papermag.com/deftones-1960592769.html)
I'm sure he doesn't want Frank out of the band, it's more like what he says. Every album they talk about expanding their sound, and he's saying it'd be interesting to do the opposite. It'd be interesting, but hell no. Frank's a member of the band, what if he'd said "We'll make an album but without drums"? I know it's not the same thing because Frank isn't needed to make songs, it's more that he adds to them. But even so, that's kind of a mean thing to say.
Anyway, I wish Frank was more prominent in their songs. His effects in Digital Bath are probably my favourite, it makes the atmosphere and mood of their music even more amplified. So I'm not sure what he's thinking except that it's just another aspect of wanting to experiment with something.
The interview talking about them playing Phantom Bride is cool. They have been playing more Gore songs, and hell, even played a SNW song for an opener, that's a big change for them (first time in like six years, possibly?), so I think if they have the time to rehearse and figure out a way for it to work, they will play it. Even if just for a few shows. Hell, hopefully the other songs not yet played will make an appearance too.
Interview with Sergio about his Orange Amps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_niQyVd0ptE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_niQyVd0ptE)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/n1laB_0UwQWh2YuEwgTuGLomAV-cDi8o4h-gcVb6rWI-XqF1XqT-vScIxWVemQppPvLYmPMtSqoE0Ik=w1366-h604)
Deftones in last Total Guitar magazine (Summer 2016)
"Chino Moreno and Stephen Carpenter invite TG to join them on stage at Wembley Arena, just hours before their headline set..."
Pages with Deftones view / download here (original images 3116x2000):
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7dDG_93h3MkOFp4VEtneWxwOFE
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7dDG_93h3MkUVJEUlBRQWE4WEk
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7dDG_93h3MkTEhPcjYzM3BCMG8
And Chino doing more stripped back vocals would be pretty exciting.
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 06, 2016, 06:15 PM
Well...how else are we supposed to take that? That's basically exactly what he's saying. The fuck else is Frank going to do? Play the cowbell? I'm sure Chino will downplay it or say he was taken out of context in future interviews. Hopefully he's just talking out of his ass.
And Chino, on the (admittedly microscopic) off chance that you're reading...awful, awful idea. Sorry, mate, but are you fucking serious? Frank has always added a whole new dimension to the band. And frankly (no pun intended), songs where he's downplayed (Doomed User, Gore, Beware, etc.) can really, really use him.
I feel like Doomed User is the perfect song for Frank to do his thing... Disappointed he's not doing anything on that track.. Really needs him. Frank adds so much to this band. Not down for a record without him..
Chino Moreno appears on the latest episode of '2 Hours With Matt Pinfield' (August 29, 2016)
"Matt and Chino discuss his origins as a musician, growing up a big fan of bands like Duran Duran, and how a car accident brought the Deftones together in their teens! They also discuss the tragic death of bass player Chi Cheng and how Jerry Cantrell was asked to play a guitar solo on the new album"...and more.
https://audioboom.com/boos/4979598-033-deftones-chino-on-gore-the-death-of-friend-and-bassist-chi-cheng-and-how-a-car-accident-led-to-the-formation-of-deftones
Chino Moreno on last episode in "I AM RAPAPORT" podcast. (August 30, 2016)
"...then Michael calls in Chino Moreno of The Deftones to discuss performing for 25+ years, signing to Madonna's label & meeting her for the first time, best countries for a Stickman, favorite songs to perform on tour and how he started listening to the WORLDWIDE PHENOMENON nearly 2 years ago..."
Listen here (Chino appers from 22:11 min):
http://www.iamrapaport.com/ (http://www.iamrapaport.com/)
itunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/i-am-rapaport-stereo-podcast/id923017367?mt=2 (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/i-am-rapaport-stereo-podcast/id923017367?mt=2)
Daily Rock - Interview DEFTONES Greenfield 2016
Interesting Tidbit: Phantom Bride was written by Stephen Carpenter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLD_-nSYYvs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLD_-nSYYvs)
Lol @ Sergio's face that entire interview
Also of note, Chino says he'd like to play in Deftones till he's 50. Hmm
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That means seven more years of Deftones. 1988-2023. So, 2-3 more albums?
I bet he doesn't quit at 50 though, mostly because the touring money is probably too good.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 13, 2016, 06:34 PM
That means seven more years of Deftones. 1988-2023. So, 2-3 more albums?
I bet he doesn't quit at 50 though, mostly because the touring money is probably too good.
I'm quite sure it's less about money and more about whether or not it's worth it. He loves music and loves making music, but trying to balance out family life and touring is probably a big factor. I mean, maybe when he hits 50 he'll decide he's still got the energy to keep going for another ten years.
Quote from: Shadow46/2 on Sep 13, 2016, 02:50 PM
Lol @ Sergio's face that entire interview
Also of note, Chino says he'd like to play in Deftones till he's 50. Hmm
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Oh lord.. I think he meant that he hopes he gets to keep playing music until he feels he doesn't need to or want to any more. Nothing to do with being 50 exactly. He just said a number for the fuck of it.
http://teamrock.com/feature/2016-09-17/drugs-death-and-dark-days-chino-moreno-s-history-of-deftones (http://teamrock.com/feature/2016-09-17/drugs-death-and-dark-days-chino-moreno-s-history-of-deftones)
Deftones in HUCK Magazine (June/July 2010).
Page scenes, original photos and outtakes VIEW / DOWNLOAD here (44 files):
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B7dDG_93h3MkQ1ktTml0cXVGN2s
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 17, 2016, 07:01 PM
http://teamrock.com/feature/2016-09-17/drugs-death-and-dark-days-chino-moreno-s-history-of-deftones (http://teamrock.com/feature/2016-09-17/drugs-death-and-dark-days-chino-moreno-s-history-of-deftones)
Was just about to post this. Great read.
https://www.google.com/amp/consequenceofsound.net/2016/09/riot-fest-chicago-2016-festival-review-from-worst-to-best/amp/?client=safari (https://www.google.com/amp/consequenceofsound.net/2016/09/riot-fest-chicago-2016-festival-review-from-worst-to-best/amp/?client=safari)
Here's the bit on Deftones, quite a positive review on their set at Chicago's Riot Fest.
"Are you ready for the motherfucking Misfits?" Chino Moreno asked the raving crowd a few songs into the Deftones' mighty set at the Riot stage Sunday evening. The Sacramento band could hardly be called benchwarmers, though, ripping through a set of both old material, particularly from Around the Fur, and newer songs from Gore and Koi no Yokan. Moreno was relentless, bounding and leaping from end to end of the stage. Anchored by his bandmates — particularly, rock-solid guitarist Stephen Carpenter and bassist Sergio Vega — Moreno was free to scream straight into the crowd at one moment and stand atop an amp like a messiah the next. He paid tribute to both Glenn Danzig and Morrissey, acknowledging the oddness of that combination: "That might be corrupt and wrong, but those motherfuckers made me wanna sing. I love them both equally." In this writer's opinion, Deftones gave Misfits a solid run for their money, the students clearly outperforming the masters. –Karen Gwee
Deftones interesting interview / article from Premier Guitar magazine (April 2016):
"PG spoke with Carpenter and Moreno about 7- and 8-string guitars, low tunings, click tracks, Carpenter's battle with his digital rig, and Moreno's need for simplicity."
by: Tzvi Gluckin
edit by: deftfan (Deftones Zone)
Read on issue: https://issuu.com/deftfan/docs/deftones_-_premierguitar__april2016
or via google drive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7dDG_93h3MkdGt3dHBSbWJUN0k/view
New video interview with Abe Cunningham and Frank Delgado !
"I interviewed Deftones recently and wanted to share our video interview with you all. Watch as we discuss studio tension, gnarly injuries, scavenger hunts, hella good shows, and being the masters of juxtaposition."
by Alicia Atout (October 28, 2016)
http://amusicblogyea.com/2016/10/28/gimme-your-answers-a-video-interview-w-deftones/ (http://amusicblogyea.com/2016/10/28/gimme-your-answers-a-video-interview-w-deftones/)
Fun Facebook Q&A with Abe, Sergio and Stef https://www.facebook.com/DestroyAllLines/videos/1264987340188383/?permPage=1 (https://www.facebook.com/DestroyAllLines/videos/1264987340188383/?permPage=1)
Abe says they might play Smile live :)
Quote from: LG95 on Nov 10, 2016, 10:49 AM
Fun Facebook Q&A with Abe, Sergio and Stef https://www.facebook.com/DestroyAllLines/videos/1264987340188383/?permPage=1 (https://www.facebook.com/DestroyAllLines/videos/1264987340188383/?permPage=1)
Abe says they might play Smile live :)
Definitely relishing this prospect
nice info on boys republic near minute 23
Quote from: LG95 on Nov 10, 2016, 10:49 AM
Fun Facebook Q&A with Abe, Sergio and Stef https://www.facebook.com/DestroyAllLines/videos/1264987340188383/?permPage=1 (https://www.facebook.com/DestroyAllLines/videos/1264987340188383/?permPage=1)
Abe says they might play Smile live :)
Great Q&A. I normally wouldn't believe them when they talk about making their setlists better, but they did attempt it with introducing a lot more Gore songs (only three out of the entire album not played live), switching up the order, Kimdracula, MX, etc. So this time I do believe them. I guess it'll just take time for them all to feel confident enough to switch things up more and more.
I hope they do play Smile, that'd be awesome.
Good to see them just chilling and having fun anyway, usually they do Q&As via writing so it was cool to see them just doing their thing.
Interview with Deftones by Tanja Mairhofer for Viva Zwei 2001
at Palladium in Cologne, Germany (March 11, 2001)
Very interesting interview with Deftones about 'Back To School', tour with Linkin Park and Taproot, Chi Cheng poetry, Team Sleep and other things...really nice and funny! Broadcast on German television 'Viva Zwei' in '2 Rock' program.
https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/videos/1336184009734699/ (https://www.facebook.com/defzonesite/videos/1336184009734699/)
Awesome! he's back! ;) thank x bro!
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvsE23RPTIE#)
Whatever happened to releasing Phantom Bride as a single? Was hoping for "Crest" as a b-side.
Quote from: RavinVsFlud on Dec 11, 2016, 07:52 PM
Whatever happened to releasing Phantom Bride as a single? Was hoping for "Crest" as a b-side.
It was released as a radio single. B-sides aren't often a thing anymore since singles are rarely released in physical versions. Since DE the band have been very "what you get on the album is what you get period" about their music. Chino was adamant not to have any b-sides, covers or unreleased tracks from KNY and it seems to be the same way with Gore.
Quote from: RavinVsFlud on Dec 11, 2016, 07:52 PM
Whatever happened to releasing Phantom Bride as a single? Was hoping for "Crest" as a b-side.
they released it as a beer. remember that?
Quote from: sing blue silver on Dec 12, 2016, 02:35 PM
Quote from: RavinVsFlud on Dec 11, 2016, 07:52 PM
Whatever happened to releasing Phantom Bride as a single? Was hoping for "Crest" as a b-side.
It was released as a radio single. B-sides aren't often a thing anymore since singles are rarely released in physical versions. Since DE the band have been very "what you get on the album is what you get period" about their music. Chino was adamant not to have any b-sides, covers or unreleased tracks from KNY and it seems to be the same way with Gore.
Which is very sad. I miss Deftones covers...
Watch Chino perform inside a Vulcano... David Bowie cover Haha
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Feb 13, 2017, 09:37 PM
Quote from: sing blue silver on Dec 12, 2016, 02:35 PM
Quote from: RavinVsFlud on Dec 11, 2016, 07:52 PM
Whatever happened to releasing Phantom Bride as a single? Was hoping for "Crest" as a b-side.
It was released as a radio single. B-sides aren't often a thing anymore since singles are rarely released in physical versions. Since DE the band have been very "what you get on the album is what you get period" about their music. Chino was adamant not to have any b-sides, covers or unreleased tracks from KNY and it seems to be the same way with Gore.
Which is very sad. I miss Deftones covers...
Seconded. Deftones do the best covers.
Quote from: O on Feb 13, 2017, 10:45 PM
Watch Chino perform inside a Vulcano... David Bowie cover Haha
Haha sounds like a dying goat
^
It's kind of meant to sound how Chino did it. Or did neither of you listen to the original?
I swear half the people on this site don't like Deftones.
Wtf sounds like a dying goat haha which not only features some of the most embarrassingly bad vocals ever captured on a record
Interview with Stephen Carpenter by TC Electronic (Febuary 2017)
PART 1/2: "Alternative metal king, Stephen Carpenter of Deftones talks about his early influences and those that led him from 6 to 7 to 8 string guitars!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIFfuVvWg1U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIFfuVvWg1U)
PART 2/2:
"Stephen Carpenter of alternative metal titans, Deftones presents his driving yet ambient "Bouncy" TonePrint for Flashback Delay."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry7FXkDKxtc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry7FXkDKxtc)
"Intensity marks Deftones" (December 1, 1995)
- nice, old (rare) article about "ADRENALIZE" first album by Deftones from student newspaper of Villanova University
Link to full size image on google drive (to read / download) here: https://goo.gl/sjh158 (https://goo.gl/sjh158)
Quote from: deftfan on Feb 23, 2017, 04:48 AM
Interview with Stephen Carpenter by TC Electronic (Febuary 2017)
PART 1/2: "Alternative metal king, Stephen Carpenter of Deftones talks about his early influences and those that led him from 6 to 7 to 8 string guitars!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIFfuVvWg1U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIFfuVvWg1U)
PART 2/2:
"Stephen Carpenter of alternative metal titans, Deftones presents his driving yet ambient "Bouncy" TonePrint for Flashback Delay."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry7FXkDKxtc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry7FXkDKxtc)
"Intensity marks Deftones" (December 1, 1995)
- nice, old (rare) article about "ADRENALIZE" first album by Deftones from student newspaper of Villanova University
Link to full size image on google drive (to read / download) here: https://goo.gl/sjh158 (https://goo.gl/sjh158)
Wish there were more interviews in existence that had less of the same old recycled questions.
So when did you start playing 7 string? 8 string? How's your tuning? When are you in the studio next? Eros? Zzzz...Most of the time I just wonder how these tools manage to score an interview in the first place.
It's the same old clichés.
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7702031/deftones-rise-against-thrice-interview-tour-summer-2017 (http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7702031/deftones-rise-against-thrice-interview-tour-summer-2017)
Lol thrice...
Thrice shits on your life, guy.
lol
I'm sorry you're so pathetic that you don't know how pathetic thrice really are. Maybe thrice shits on you. Don't shit me!
Man, all I've ever seen you do on here is talk shit. Don't see what the problem is with Thrice . Don't they and Deftones go way back ?
Quote from: Red Pill on Feb 27, 2017, 04:32 PM
I'm sorry you're so pathetic that you don't know how pathetic thrice really are. Maybe thrice shits on you. Don't shit me!
No, they definitely shit on your life. Thrice has a discography of amazing albums. What do you have in comparison? Nothing. Hence, they shit on your life. Literally. They are dripping Black Honey all over your face as we speak. Just let it happen.
All jokes aside, liking Deftones but not liking Thrice doesn't compute to me. In a lot of ways, they are very similar. Both are bands that went way beyond their respective beginning scenes (nu-metal for Deftones, post-hardcore for Thrice) to make wide-ranging, border-pushing music. Maybe it's an unfair comparison, but I've always looked at Thrice as a post-hardcore version of Deftones.
Which is funny , considering Deftones have often dabbled in Post Hardcore-ish sounds before as well.
Quote from: Red Pill on Feb 27, 2017, 04:32 PM
I'm sorry you're so pathetic that you don't know how pathetic thrice really are. Maybe thrice shits on you. Don't shit me!
Quote from: BewareTheWater on Feb 27, 2017, 07:36 PM
Man, all I've ever seen you do on here is talk shit. Don't see what the problem is with Thrice . Don't they and Deftones go way back ?
I don't like thrice!
Quote from: BewareTheWater on Feb 27, 2017, 08:19 PM
Which is funny , considering Deftones have often dabbled in Post Hardcore-ish sounds before as well.
Definitely, just like how Thrice has dabbled in some Deftones-ish sounds on songs like Firebreather.
Well, more than just that. White Pony is pretty much the template Thrice followed for Vheissu.
Quote from: people are people on Feb 26, 2017, 03:30 PM
It's the same old clichés.
http://youtu.be/INgqID50MyI (http://youtu.be/INgqID50MyI)
Thrice is the lost twin that Deftones been searching for their whole life. Although the Tones are my favorite band I reckon that Thrice catalog is more interesting.
That said it's times like these that I wish I was american, these kind of tours never get to Europe.
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Thank god!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIFfuVvWg1U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIFfuVvWg1U)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry7FXkDKxtc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry7FXkDKxtc)
A couple steph interviews.
Quote from: Inkblades on Feb 27, 2017, 08:02 PM
Quote from: Red Pill on Feb 27, 2017, 04:32 PM
I'm sorry you're so pathetic that you don't know how pathetic thrice really are. Maybe thrice shits on you. Don't shit me!
No, they definitely shit on your life. Thrice has a discography of amazing albums. What do you have in comparison? Nothing. Hence, they shit on your life. Literally. They are dripping Black Honey all over your face as we speak. Just let it happen.
All jokes aside, liking Deftones but not liking Thrice doesn't compute to me. In a lot of ways, they are very similar. Both are bands that went way beyond their respective beginning scenes (nu-metal for Deftones, post-hardcore for Thrice) to make wide-ranging, border-pushing music. Maybe it's an unfair comparison, but I've always looked at Thrice as a post-hardcore version of Deftones.
I like both bands and would be super excited to see them together (actually I remember seeing them both when they played Taste of Chaos together in '06 I think - a great show!), both have some have some great albums and both have some misses... as of late I will say Thrice's TBEITBN is better than Gore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUfQbQYQGr8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUfQbQYQGr8)
Another Steph interview...he tells a pretty hilarious story about him and Juan getting high.
Good , I will give attention!
Interview from Romania in 2006 (Chino and Abe):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-J9YFkQE_k&t=32s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-J9YFkQE_k&t=32s)
Old...
There's a 30-minute interview with Chino and Abe up on the official Deftones Facebook page. Don't have time to watch it now, but will later.
Deftones (Chino & Abe) - Virgin Radio Italy Interview (April 21, 2017) [HD] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97ZNGge8OSM#)
It was so difficult to listen to that interviewer. There's nothing new in it by the way.
Gore, the best album... hahaha
Really enjoyed this interview (Abe and Frank) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIccU8QQGSw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIccU8QQGSw)
Lolz Teething "That song sounds a little dated"
radio hosts are such cuntbags
Quote from: LG95 on Apr 28, 2017, 04:05 PM
Really enjoyed this interview (Abe and Frank) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIccU8QQGSw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIccU8QQGSw)
Happy! many time spent on edit.
Check for new Metalhammer zine. I wonder what is that "Untold history of Around The Fur" is about: http://imgur.com/a/imwBJ (http://imgur.com/a/imwBJ)
I noticed that in the shops today but didn't fancy paying £5 just for one feature. Couldn't open it either because it in a package.
Deftones - Star FM Germany Interview 2017.04.27 [AUDIO + LIVE PHOTOS Berlin] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BixF5PTwc30#)
Before Deftones concert in the ColumbiaHalle on April 27, 2017 Jakob Kranz (STAR FM 93.9)
made a short interview with Abe Cunningham and Frank Delgado about the current 'Gore Tour 2017',
Deftones return to Paris in May after narrowly avoiding 2015 terrorist attacks and about some other things like skateboards.
🎞Interview video EDITED by deftfan (DeftonesZone):
- slideshow created from Deftones live photos at Columbiahalle in Berlin on April 27, 2017 taken by Jaroslav Kutheil Photography (for Fakker magazine)
- background music added
- some parts were presenter explains in German cut off
ENJOY :)
Deftones - Radio 1 Rock Show 'Music Ruined My Life' w/ Chino Moreno 2017.05.07 [AUDIO + short clip] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sm5Y5fsbX8#)
Deftones' Chino Moreno took a part in a 'Music Ruined My Life' segment for the BBC Radio 1 'Rock Show with Daniel P. Carter' (on May 7, 2017).
Info & playlist on Youtube.
420 Minutes with Stephen Carpenter: a zZounds Exclusive Interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7G3E73jzlU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7G3E73jzlU)
Stephen casually says he wants to play on a 9 string
Quote from: snw9 on May 11, 2017, 11:48 PM
420 Minutes with Stephen Carpenter: a zZounds Exclusive Interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7G3E73jzlU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7G3E73jzlU)
Stephen casually says he wants to play on a 9 string
Chugga chugga
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/2017-05-BassGuitar-SergioVega-preview.jpg)
Sergio Vega (Deftones, Quicksand) interview in Bass Guitar magazine (May 2017 issue) now is available to read via Deftones Zone :)
"Deftones are no ordinary heavy rock band. Sergio Vega is no ordinary bass player.
Joel Mclver sits down with the great men to find out what it's like to play the UK's biggest venues - and step into the shoes of a legend."
Link to HQ images (6 pages) to read:
➡️ on issuu.com: https://goo.gl/zV0LZU (https://goo.gl/zV0LZU)
➡️ on Google Drive: https://goo.gl/gLt7es (https://goo.gl/gLt7es)
Untold History of Around the Fur: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xdt64pstovtfpgj/Deftones%202017-05.pdf?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/xdt64pstovtfpgj/Deftones%202017-05.pdf?dl=0)
From Metal Hammer zine
Quote from: endstand on May 16, 2017, 08:20 AM
Untold History of Around the Fur: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xdt64pstovtfpgj/Deftones%202017-05.pdf?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/xdt64pstovtfpgj/Deftones%202017-05.pdf?dl=0)
From Metal Hammer zine
Nice find!
Quote from: Vesanic on May 16, 2017, 08:09 PM
Quote from: Terry DateI would love to work with them again.
:)
Anyone thinking they might play an anniversary set? Chino has said he didn't want to follow the memories tour trend, but maybe...
I'm not so sure they would. Didn't they recently play through it a few times?
If a festival asked them to I'm sure they'd be up for it.
I'd probably be a little surprised to see them do it at their own show.
I don't think so!
Half an hour interview with Abe and Frank
https://soundcloud.com/hillandbeez/tnm-extra-deftones
Quote from: nicklav on May 16, 2017, 08:45 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on May 16, 2017, 08:09 PM
Quote from: Terry DateI would love to work with them again.
:)
Anyone thinking they might play an anniversary set? Chino has said he didn't want to follow the memories tour trend, but maybe...
I'm not so sure they would. Didn't they recently play through it a few times?
They played ATF in full for Amnesia Rock fest in 2015.
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/2017-06-MetalHammer-Deftones-previewS.jpg)
"Around The Fur: The Untold Story"
Deftones feature in Metal Hammer magazine (June 2017 issue) now is available to read via Deftones Zone 🤘
"On its 20th birthday, Deftones remember the making of 'Around The Fur',
the record that set the template for their sound. It involved skating, Max Cavalera and a dodgy Maccy D's trip..."
Link to HQ images to read:
➡️ on issuu: https://goo.gl/YfjVhq (https://goo.gl/YfjVhq)
➡️ on Google Drive: https://goo.gl/ZK82ja (https://goo.gl/ZK82ja)
Enjoy :)
"We're just excited to make some noise"
- new interview with Deftones' Chino Moreno about the band's legacy, future and next album.
Interview conducted by NME (by Andrew Trendell) before Deftones show
at Alexandra Palace in London, UK on May 5, 2017.
http://www.nme.com/news/music/deftones-chino-moreno-discusses-bands-legacy-future-next-album-2076095 (http://www.nme.com/news/music/deftones-chino-moreno-discusses-bands-legacy-future-next-album-2076095)
Wonder if he means in general, or if he means that they're specifically thinking about getting together soon to make new music after Gore. Either way I'm always ready for new music, even though it's no doubt a long way off.
I wonder how long off it is though. Keeping in mind that Gore has been out for over a year now and their longest gap between albums was just over three and half years between SNW to DE (where there were extenuating circumstances), I don't think it will be that long till they have plans to start writing again. Even if the gap between Gore and the followup is three years, that probably means they'll start writing around the first half of next year. If they actively decide in favour of a quicker process, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that we get an album by the end of 2018.
Quote from: LG95 on May 24, 2017, 11:02 AM
I wonder how long off it is though. Keeping in mind that Gore has been out for over a year now and their longest gap between albums was just over three and half years between SNW to DE (where there were extenuating circumstances), I don't think it will be that long till they have plans to start writing again. Even if the gap between Gore and the followup is three years, that probably means they'll start writing around the first half of next year. If they actively decide in favour of a quicker process, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that we get an album by the end of 2018.
2 more hours.
;D
The wait is always longest when you finally have songs or a release date. And it's even longer when you're waiting for a leak like with Gore. Until then, I think it'll be pretty easy to wait while they do their thing. Let the endless rumours and speculation begin!
"23. DEFTONES – "MY OWN SUMMER (SHOVE IT)"
"Ah, summer: short shirts, beach bodies, and soaking up the sun. Many musicians have raised their voices in praise of the summer months; the Deftones raise a middle finger. Lead singer Chino Moreno famously put tin foil over the studio windows during the recording of Around the Fur, and on the lead single from that album, he aims his rage and fury at that burning ball of gas in the sky. "The sun! Shove it, shove it, shove it, aside!" In addition to featuring some of Moreno's most stunningly poetical lyrics, "My Own Summer (Shove It)" captures the isolation, frustration, and white-hot anger of going through hell while everyone else is off having fun. –Wren Graves"
https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/05/top-50-songs-of-1997/7/
Live Review: Deftones at Alexandra Palace in London, UK (on May 5, 2017)
taken from new Metal Hammer magazine (July 2017 issue).
"Sacramento metal heroes dig deep into their value..."
➡️ Link to HQ image on issuu to read:
https://issuu.com/deftfan/docs/201707-metalhammer-live
! Deftones - Sound Sessions Interview w/ Abe (2017.06.07) [HD] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHgnggw39S4#)
New interview with Abe Cunningham at Chicago's WGN Radio hosted on Sound Sessions with Michael Heidemann (June 7, 2017).
'Abe and Michael discuss about the Deftones most recent tour and compare the European/American audiences, how Abe spends his time kicking back on the road and some other things.
Deftones are back in action kicking off their latest tour with Rise Against on June 9th in Chicago at Huntington Bank Pavilion.'
Deftones - WP 0.1
MTV News 1515 (2000.01.26) [FULL]
Deftones - WP 0.1 - MTV News 1515 (2000.01.26) [FULL] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbf87hKccXc#)
MTV "
deftones: worth to wait" feature:
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/2000_01_26_MTV/Preview_2000_01_26_MTV.jpg)
FULL MTV online feature here:
➡️ read on issuu.com: https://issuu.com/deftfan/docs/2000_01_26_mtv (https://issuu.com/deftfan/docs/2000_01_26_mtv)
➡️ read/downaload HQ original images: http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/2000_01_26_MTV/ (http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/2000_01_26_MTV/)
Enjoy :)
Quote from: Vesanic on May 16, 2017, 08:09 PM
Quote from: Terry DateI would love to work with them again.
:)
Anyone thinking they might play an anniversary set? Chino has said he didn't want to follow the memories tour trend, but maybe...
Next year would mark the 15 year anniversary of the Self Titled album...
A man can dream, right?
3 NEW INTERVIEWS :D
2017-06-30 - The Salt Lake Tribune - AbeAbe Cunningham did a Q&A with the Tribune back in mid-May, touching on this touring lineup, changes in the music industry, and finding balance in a crazy lifestyle.
by Eric Walden (published on June 30, 2017)
http://www.sltrib.com/home/5461933-155/deftones-just-wants-fans-at-usana (http://www.sltrib.com/home/5461933-155/deftones-just-wants-fans-at-usana)
2017-07-06 - AZcentral.com - SergioArizona Republic (azcentral) talked with Deftones' Sergio Vega about last tour with Rise Against, 'Gore' the writing process and a friendship with his fellow Deftones that stretches back to 1995, when they met on the first Vans Warped Tour.
by Ed Masley (published on July 6, 2017)
http://www.azcentral.com/story/entertainment/music/2017/07/06/deftones-interview-gore-sergio-vega/452602001/ (http://www.azcentral.com/story/entertainment/music/2017/07/06/deftones-interview-gore-sergio-vega/452602001/)
2017-07-06 - Phoneix New Times - AbePhoenix New Times talked with Deftones' Abe Cunningham about picking the set list for each tour stop, his musical influences, and still feeling like the band has something to prove.
by Lauren Wise (published on July 6, 2017)
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/music/deftones-abe-cunningham-interview-phoenix-concert-july-9-2017-9459313 (http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/music/deftones-abe-cunningham-interview-phoenix-concert-july-9-2017-9459313)
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/2017_07_Guitar_World/Preview_2017_07_Guitar_World_1-6.jpg)
Deftones: 'Around the Fur' 20 years later 🤘
- feature from Guitar World magazine (June 2017 issue).
"On the 20th anniversary of 'Around The Fur', Stephen Carpenter reminisces about the events that led to the making of Deftones' breakthrough album."
Direct links to read/download:
➡️ https://issuu.com/deftfan/docs/2017_07_guitar_world (https://issuu.com/deftfan/docs/2017_07_guitar_world)
➡️ http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/2017_07_Guitar_World/ (http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/2017_07_Guitar_World/)
Shared by Deftones Zone (edited by deftfan), enjoy :)
🎬 Link to Deftones - 'Around The Fur EPK' video (director's cut version, full & improved):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T0JyK3CZKs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T0JyK3CZKs)
Thanks for the upload!
Quote from: deftfan on Jul 14, 2017, 08:06 AM
(http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/2017_07_Guitar_World/Preview_2017_07_Guitar_World_1-6.jpg)
Deftones: 'Around the Fur' 20 years later 🤘
- feature from Guitar World magazine (June 2017 issue).
"On the 20th anniversary of 'Around The Fur', Stephen Carpenter reminisces about the events that led to the making of Deftones' breakthrough album."
Direct links to read/download:
➡️ https://issuu.com/deftfan/docs/2017_07_guitar_world (https://issuu.com/deftfan/docs/2017_07_guitar_world)
➡️ http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/2017_07_Guitar_World/ (http://deftfan.bplaced.net/deftoneszone/2017_07_Guitar_World/)
Shared by Deftones Zone (edited by deftfan), enjoy :)
🎬 Link to Deftones - 'Around The Fur EPK' video (director's cut version, full & improved):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T0JyK3CZKs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T0JyK3CZKs)
Tell me CHI wrote the bassline of dai the flu...
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fionline.sapo.pt%2Fartigo%2F577391%2Fdeftones-donald-trump-e-o-produto-de-um-tempo-confuso-%3Fseccao%3DMais_i&edit-text=&act=url
Frank and Sergio
Steph reflects on ATF:
http://www.guitarworld.com/interviews/stephen-carpenter-looks-back-deftones-breakthrough-album-around-fur/31601 (http://www.guitarworld.com/interviews/stephen-carpenter-looks-back-deftones-breakthrough-album-around-fur/31601)
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 30, 2017, 04:15 AM
Steph reflects on ATF:
http://www.guitarworld.com/interviews/stephen-carpenter-looks-back-deftones-breakthrough-album-around-fur/31601 (http://www.guitarworld.com/interviews/stephen-carpenter-looks-back-deftones-breakthrough-album-around-fur/31601)
Thanks, I believe this is the same one that deftfan posted above.
Oops! If there was ever a head-slapping moment.
(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/William-Shatner-Slapping-Himself.gif)
Pitchfork's retrospective review on White Pony:
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/deftones-white-pony/
It's Pitchfork, so naturally there's a shitload of eye-rolling parts (giving fucking Drake albums higher ratings than WP, reducing Team Sleep to just trip-hop and Crosses to just witch house), but still worth a read.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 18, 2017, 03:40 AM
Pitchfork's retrospective review on White Pony:
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/deftones-white-pony/
It's Pitchfork, so naturally there's a shitload of eye-rolling parts (giving fucking Drake albums higher ratings than WP, reducing Team Sleep to just trip-hop and Crosses to just witch house), but still worth a read.
Now when I look back at all the other nu-metal albums being released and over hyped around White Pony, Deftones were definitely one of the best back in the 2000s. It's sad how trashy music always gets more airplay...
As a big Stephen fan, this makes me very happy:
http://www.theprp.com/2017/10/02/news/chino-moreno-wants-stephen-carpenters-riffs-forefront-next-deftones-album/ (http://www.theprp.com/2017/10/02/news/chino-moreno-wants-stephen-carpenters-riffs-forefront-next-deftones-album/)
Hopefully it's not just words...
Aggroculture • 3 hours ago
"Stephen's riffs are the only good thing about Deftones, and this has been the case for a long time.
Chino's wishy washy ambient crooning can take a back seat for all I care."
Savage
great, more 15 string chugga chugga
only terry date can make it sound nice
Quote from: Korea Rounding on Oct 02, 2017, 06:21 PM
Aggroculture • 3 hours ago
"Stephen's riffs are the only good thing about Deftones, and this has been the case for a long time.
Chino's wishy washy ambient crooning can take a back seat for all I care."
Savage
Savage and total bullshit.
I am already impatient for new music.
Quote from: Penicks on Oct 02, 2017, 06:30 PM
great, more 15 string chugga chugga
only terry date can make it sound nice
Don't be greedy, this is great news.
With that said, 7 string and Terry would be tits.
i'm the opposite of greedy, i'd rather them not release anything at all if it's gonna sound like the last 3 albums
Penicks will be interested only when he hears that they've been recording the album whilst on cocaine every night.
Quote from: Korea Rounding on Oct 02, 2017, 06:07 PM
As a big Stephen fan, this makes me very happy:
http://www.theprp.com/2017/10/02/news/chino-moreno-wants-stephen-carpenters-riffs-forefront-next-deftones-album/ (http://www.theprp.com/2017/10/02/news/chino-moreno-wants-stephen-carpenters-riffs-forefront-next-deftones-album/)
Hopefully it's not just words...
Well they seem to have taken the criticism against Gore pretty personally it seems lol.
2 more hours.
Nice. Stephen seemed to have a bit of creative writer's block while they were making Gore, so they kind of had to leave him behind a bit until later on when they'd already formed ideas. And I love Gore and I'm sure the band are happy with the album they made, but they're not Deftones if they're not going into their next album trying to do things differently, and I think it's cool that they want Stephen to have more input than he did in the last album. Hopefully he will actually be more inspired and will come up with ideas that he's proud of and happy with.
The time has come to release Finger of death. One must not always look forward, even though your band is called deftones.
Radiohead dusted off the song nude from 1997 and released it 10 years later on "In Rainbows". It worked out very well.
It's practically a tradition of Radiohead to dust off old songs. Nude, True Love Waits, Man-O-War, Lift, I Promise, etc. I'd love to see Deftones take a page from their book. I get the feeling Chino isn't crazy about FOD because it reminds him too much of the dark days. The sound of that song personifies darkness.
My only fear with FOD now is that it's very possible that a studio version would never capture the INSANE energy that one live recording we have is. Chino doesn't even sound human in that performance. He sounds like a vengeful ghost.
The fucking gloating on reddit and the like though... "YEAH THIS IS SICK NEWS COZ GORE SUX LOL". Usually the same people who think Diamond Eyes is their best.
Who's said that?
Let's be real, they've never been strictly any sub-genre of metal or rock though.
I'd like Deftones to continue sounding like Deftones, or, in other words, whatever the fuck they collectively feel like at that moment in time.
Hopefully I'll be on board again with whatever comes out.
Part one of a Revolver doc on Around The Fur https://www.revolvermag.com/premium-video/music/inside-deftones-around-fur-watch-exclusive-doc-game-changing-album (https://www.revolvermag.com/premium-video/music/inside-deftones-around-fur-watch-exclusive-doc-game-changing-album)
Revolver sure has been doing a lot of Deftones coverage lately.
Quote from: LG95 on Oct 26, 2017, 06:47 PM
Part one of a Revolver doc on Around The Fur https://www.revolvermag.com/premium-video/music/inside-deftones-around-fur-watch-exclusive-doc-game-changing-album (https://www.revolvermag.com/premium-video/music/inside-deftones-around-fur-watch-exclusive-doc-game-changing-album)
the City Tour one with Abe and Frank is pretty fun:
https://www.revolvermag.com/deftonescityguide (https://www.revolvermag.com/deftonescityguide)
So many guys live in the past ...
Quote from: The Prodigy on Oct 26, 2017, 10:31 PM
So many guys live in the past ...
It's forgivable though, their back catalogue is very nice to listen to and their wild-eyed relative youth at the time made for some fearless creativity and very lucid listening experiences.
If you ask me (i'm aware no one did) I think they are just getting old, and generally bands fizzle out over their career - that's just life.
Interview w Sergio http://www.musicradar.com/news/deftones-bassist-sergio-vega-the-whammy-bar-shouldnt-just-be-relegated-to-guitar (http://www.musicradar.com/news/deftones-bassist-sergio-vega-the-whammy-bar-shouldnt-just-be-relegated-to-guitar)
[spoiler]Every now and then you get a band that genuinely defies expectations. The Sacramento quintet Deftones are one of this elite, formed in 1988 and emerging from the almost wholly regrettable nu-metal sound of the mid to late-'90s with a deeper, immensely textural approach of their own.
Anyone of sound mind is urged to see them if at all possible, not least because of the phenomenal bass playing of Sergio Vega, a member since 2009.
Vega came into the band alongside vocalist Chino Moreno, guitarist Stephen Carpenter, keyboard player Frank Delgado and drummer Abe Cunningham after the band's previous bassist Chi Cheng was left in a coma after a car accident in 2008.
Longterm readers of BGM will recall an interview we ran with Cheng in 2003, in which he explained his sparse, powerful bass style: any successor to his role would require serious presence and skill.
Fortunately, Vega was exactly the right candidate – an outspoken veteran of the post-hardcore band Quicksand, a cult group with a popular fanbase of their own.
Cheng never emerged from his coma, dying in 2013: Vega has filled his position since then, composing and playing on three Deftones albums – Diamond Eyes (2009), Koi No Yokan (2012) and last year's Gore.
Like his predecessor, when we sat down to chat with Vega, he was refreshingly honest about the pleasures and pitfalls of life in a band with as combative an artistic vision as this one. Read on and learn...
How did the bass parts go down on Gore, Sergio – smoothly or otherwise?
"All of the above! They went down smoothly, but it was an adventure, and a lot of it was a different approach for us. This time around we would do two weeks of writing, a few days of rehearsals and then go do a run of shows for the previous album, Koi No Yokan. That's why there's a four-year span of time between Koi and Gore. It's not that Gore took longer to write, it was because we were still actually touring Koi. It was kinda cool doing it that way."
Did you record the bass live or isolated?
"We did everything and anything that would work. We usually wind up doing a live pass of the songs with Abe. The main thing is that he is comfortable. From Diamond Eyes on, we've done tempo-mapping, where Stephen and I lay down scratch tracks for Abe. He then has the song in full with no drums, and he can just play over and over again to his heart's content."
Playing the songs without drums sounds like a tricky thing to pull off.
"By that point the songs have a lot of air miles, because we've been playing them a lot, and playing them without drums is a nice challenge, especially locking in with Stephen. He and I have a really nice dynamic in the way that we interface with each other, even before you add Chino's guitar playing into the mix."
You switched from your usual Fender Jaguars to a Fender Bass VI on Gore. Why?
"I always wanted to have a whammy bar on my bass, and I'm a huge My Bloody Valentine fan. I always liked the idea of incorporating a little undulation into the strumming, and how that was utilised in MBV was a big deal to me. I felt like that shouldn't just be relegated to guitar: I have the opportunity to do that in my register too, so I got a couple of VIs when we were making Koi.
"Those songs were already written, so the VIs didn't have a place there, but it allowed me a couple of years to develop the instrument and get a good, nice tone for it that spoke to both the lower end and the higher end of its register. By the time we started writing Gore, I was really well versed in the instrument and started writing with it. No-one said anything: as long as no-one says anything, that's a good thing!"
Why not just switch to a regular extended-range bass?
"I really don't like five- and six-string basses, the ones that most people know. This is counter to most people's philosophy, but I feel that lower is not heavier. Lower is muddier, and actually lighter. It doesn't get much heavier than Metallica in standard tuning, I'm sorry! You can get sludgier, but sludgier is not an attribute that resonates with me."
What tunings do you use?
"We have multiple tunings: we are rarely playing in the same tuning. From Diamond Eyes on, we're all in different tunings. I play in five different tunings – for four-string basses, I play in standard, drop D, drop C#, and drop C, and then the VI is in standard. I mess with it in drop D, but that never became a song."
So how many basses do you take on tour?
"I have two basses for each tuning."
Eight basses, plus the Fender VI?
"Yeah, and we all have multiple rigs and basses at home, so I'm sitting on 25 to 28 Jaguar basses. I only have two Custom Shop VIs because they were very expensive – $3,500, even as a Fender artist."
Have you never felt the urge to simplify your setup?
"No. Different tunings colour the notes differently, and that's major. There's a world of difference between drop C# and drop C. Drop C is far darker. It's my darkest tuning. When properly applied, it bumps super-hard, whereas C# gives a lift, and the upper end of my tone comes out a bit more. It brings different things out of you, and once you get into drop D and E, you get to do things that the other tunings don't translate as well.
"I'm forever grateful to the Deftones for opening me up to that. The tunings vibrate differently. There's darker, there's lighter – and one thing about Deftones is that we're really tone-driven. We get our patches first and then have riffs. We don't have songs and then get tones."
When I interviewed Chi Cheng 14 years ago, he said that Deftones' intra-band relationships were good but that he had to fight his corner when it came to the bass parts. Is it the same dynamic for you?
"No, I'm coming from a whole different world. I'm coming from another band with an established voice. Being in Quicksand, and having the Deftones guys be fans of Quicksand, gave me a lot of leeway, so I have my approach and I have my thing. They're super-collaborative, both bands, and also very headstrong, and I am as well. We just gotta deal with it. We all have to deal with each other. It's really that simple."
What else is different between now and Chi's era?
"The songwriting is different than when Chi was in the band, because I come in with songs and we send each other riffs and we add to each other's things. The conversation never ends. I can't say what it was like before me, but I'm not a reactionary bassist, I don't wait for a song and fit in. That's my biggest problem with rock: the way that it treats the bass. I don't even like many rock bassists, I'm like 'I can't relate to you!'"
Why not?
"Because I write songs! I write things! I don't wait! If a homie has a riff, like if Chino starts with a riff, I got you. And I got your second riff, and I arrange, and I sing. We all do everything. So I can't relate to the idea that by virtue of your instrument you're assigned a role or a place. It's asinine. Seriously, I hate it."
You've seen bassists relegated to a junior position, then?
"A lot of people have come to me and said 'Play bass on the song' and usually that person's song is a collection of chord progressions that were probably ripped off. [I think,] 'More than likely you need someone to add life to your ripped-off material, and you're not going to credit them. You're going to say that you wrote something, but you're actually a plagiarist looking for a way out. I'm not your boy.' I hate it."
How did you get into bass?
"As a young kid I got into bass through reruns of The Partridge Family and Tom & Jerry cartoons. There's a Tom & Jerry cartoon where Tom the cat is playing an upright bass to a girl and singing Is You Is Or Is You Ain't My Baby? He's wooing this girl, who is a cat, with a bass. I was like 'Yeah, I'll mess with that!' Then I'd watch The Partridge Family, and the bassist Danny Partridge was the bad boy.
"So I associated bass with a) getting girls and b) being bad. I was like 'I'm down with that'. I also have an older cousin who was in new wave bands, and the guy who played bass with him was really cool. So every time I saw bass, it was in a cool capacity. I was like 13, and I was like 'Bass is bad, and horny, and cool!'"
How did your bass-playing progress?
"When I was in junior high school in the Bronx in New York City, I joined orchestra and started playing upright bass. We would do Elgar's 'Pomp And Circumstance' and crap like that. My friends and I started to learn '80s songs, like Maneater by Hall & Oates. We had a trio: there was a horn player, a drummer and myself on double bass, and the horn player did the vocals. We'd play in assembly and people would get all stoked. It was great."
So when did rock music come along?
"I used to paint trains and write graffiti, and one guy who I did that with was into the Police. I was like 'Whoa, what is this?' because it blew my mind. Then there was a TV channel called U68, with a video show that turned me onto my first guitar bands, like Twisted Sister. That stuff was so radical to me.
"Later, I made my way from the Bronx to Lower Manhattan, where I went to a club called Danceteria all the time. I was way underage, but that was prior to them caring. If you looked cool, they'd let you in. I bought all the bands off one girl's jacket. I never met her, but she's my biggest influence. I thought I got turned onto punk, but actually I got turned onto goth."
Which bands were these?
"I was into The Cure, the Cult, Alien Sex Fiend – everything I could get off Batcave Records. From there I got into Discharge, Crass, Flux Of Pink Indians, Conflict, all the British bands. Things became politically charged, and I never looked back. And then a producer named Jerry Williams – who recorded all the early Bad Brains and Beastie Boys stuff – opened me up to classic rock, where I got my writing chops, from Black Sabbath and Cro-Mags and Amebix."
Amebix had a great bass player, Rob Miller, whose stage name was The Baron.
"He's my favourite bass player on earth. I have the Amebix logo tattooed on my chest. What I really liked about him was his picked slides, which I do a lot of in Deftones and I did in Quicksand. So you're up at the top and you slide down, but you're picking the whole time. It's the best thing ever."
Were you in any bands before Quicksand?
"I was in bands prior to that, but like a lot of New York bands they didn't last very long. I was the second bass player in a band called Absolution, which got me shows at CBGBs, which was a big deal.
"I went to college to study philosophy, but it was non-matriculated [a full degree was not awarded] because my grades were so bad. It was partly political: I was into punk, and I despised the paradigm because I was an über-anarchist, but it was sad because my parents were college professors, and they were not happy. They're proud of me now, though: their view is that you have to stay true to your artistry, and things will fall into place, even though they may not like it aesthetically."
What was your first bass guitar?
"A friend loaned me a generic, no-name Silverburst bass – that I never gave back – and I started trying to write songs. The main bass in Quicksand was a Guild Pilot. I got it from Harley Flanagan of the Cro-Mags, who I became friends with because we were in the same subsect. It was a vaguely spiritual group, vegetarian or vegan, and we didn't drink but we smoked weed.
"Jerry Williams was the hub for all those people, and everyone would hang out at his apartment and listen to music. To me, meeting Harley was like meeting Paul McCartney. Music was a real outlet for people like him, not a career."
Which bass players influenced you?
"Reggae and dancehall artists like Sly & Robbie. I had to look for bass-driven music, and in reggae, the guitar is secondary. The guitar is giving you the framework, but the bass is the melody. That music influenced my songwriting, because you have to say something important with the bass melody without making the lines overwrought. I quickly became opposed to reactionary bassists who make their mark by doing fills. Fills are superfluous for my taste."
What's your philosophy with bass parts?
"A part should be integral, and have space and be open. The song comes first, so your parts have to make sense. Let everyone else react to you and find their space. For example, if I come up with something that Stephen is stoked about, he'll just match it, or other times we're totally the opposite of each other. He'll play low down on an eight-string guitar and I'll be like 'Wow, you just gave me all this room!' or sometimes I'll start with an arpeggio really high on the neck and he'll play low."
How did you first encounter Deftones?
"I met them in 1995 on the first Warped tour, when Quicksand were on the bill too. They were doing a leg of the tour. I hadn't heard of them yet, and a friend said, 'You gotta go see Deftones.' With my mindset at the time, I was all like, 'Are they a hardcore band?' and my friend said 'They're not, but they love the Bad Brains.' I went, and the energy was palpable: they were really vibrant and alive.
"After that I went over to their Winnebago, and they were sort of introverted, which I usually am too, but I took two bottles of wine and a big sack of weed and a box of cigars. I had long braided hair and gold teeth at the time, and they were like 'Whoa!' I jumped on their Winnebago and we hung out for a bit, and that sparked it off."
When did you first play with them?
"I filled in for Chi when he hurt his foot in 1999, and they were opening for Black Sabbath and Pantera. That was cool, because I had never been asked to do something where I didn't either start the band or was a member."
What basses were you using then?
"At that point, I was playing Fender Telecaster basses with EMGs. Back then, you bought a bass and straight away you put EMGs in there, because all the hardcore kids loved those pickups. But I used Chi's Fender Precisions when I played with the Deftones, which was interesting because they were one of my least favourite basses at the time, but I handled it.
"His role was different to [mine in] Quicksand, because the cats in Deftones were more loose and emotional. It was a really nice thing, and that planted the seed of the friendship."
When you joined, how did you follow Chi?
"We never made it about Chi [versus] myself. After I joined them, we likened it to me being the sixth man. We've always had the internal imagery in our minds that Chi is with us to this day. He's present, and he's kicking it with us. It's like a family. People get that, depending on how well they know me and my history."
Has there been any reaction from the fans?
"I get everything from 'You're just some dude picked out of the crowd' to 'That dude's from Quicksand, they're homies'. I get all of that. I even get that in interviews. But it's fine."
So you're in a good place?
"Definitely. I've written more songs with Deftones than I have with Quicksand, which is amazing. We get along really well and we have a great passion for music and for each other. Any conflicts that we have come from wanting to make the music as good as possible. We appreciate that tension - because it means that you care."[/spoiler]
Thanks for posting that, it was a good interview... tbh I am not all that impressed with Sergio's playing but his personality is a breath of fresh air for the band and I felt like it helped them mature since he came into the group.
What else is different between now and Chi's era?
Sergio: "The songwriting is different than when Chi was in the band, because I come in with songs and we send each other riffs and we add to each other's things. The conversation never ends. I can't say what it was like before me"
First of all If he "can't say what it was like before him", then why did he just say what was different? Second of all, he basically says Chi didn't contribute to the songwriting , while he himself does.
Quote from: Korea Rounding on Nov 08, 2017, 09:03 PM
Second of all, he basically says Chi didn't contribute to the songwriting , while he himself does.
So?
Kind of a shitty thing to say about a dead member.He is promoting himself by dissing others - he could easily have dodged that question.But then again-that doesn't even have to be true. After all, according to Sergio himself, he can't say what it was like in the band before him.
Quote from: Korea Rounding on Nov 08, 2017, 09:34 PM
Kind of a shitty thing to say about a dead member.He is promoting himself by dissing others - he could easily have dodged that question.But then again-that doesn't even have to be true. After all, according to Sergio himself, he can't say what it was like in the band before him.
No, he really isn't, he's just telling the truth. You're just getting confused about what songwriting means. It's well acknowledged that before Sergio joined, it was essentially Chino or Stef who would start and build the basis of a song. That's why since White Pony, there's always been so much stuff about whether certain songs are Chino songs or Stef songs. I don't remember any song where they said "actually Chi wrote this song". He'd have written his own parts, just like Abe and Frank, and he'd have had his own input but it was always portrayed in interviews that Chino and Stef were the 'songwriters', the ones who brought in ideas, riffs, structures, melodies etc and then everyone would build from that. Sergio himself is a songwriter so since he's joined, he's clearly part of that process. Chino and Stef have themselves essentially said that the ideas originate from them or Sergio.
I know he brings in ideas, that's not the point.just because it's true doesn't mean it isn't disrespectful to say certain things in certain contexts. It's not up to sergio in his place to talk shit about dead members of the band in media like this. if any person at all should say, after chi is dead, that chi didn't contribute in the band, that should come from the others, not the guy that took his place. of course, the others don't shit on his legacy like this.
He didn't say that Chi didn't contribute. He just said that he wasn't a songwriter, which he wasn't. That's not shitting on him, at all.
my two albums of deftones dedicated in 1998 in France ....
https://app.box.com/s/vtlqp0h3d4cu8ocmfoosfgqr9pghkwzd
Anyone have a high resolution image of this logo please? click the thumbnail for the full version
(https://thumb.ibb.co/mM5g5S/worldwide.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mM5g5S)
https://www.myfonts.com/fonts/itc/avant-garde-gothic/ (https://www.myfonts.com/fonts/itc/avant-garde-gothic/)
Looks like they might be writing again.........
deftonesSomeone say jam?!
#deftones #backatit #fujixt2 #fujifilm #xt2
(https://i.imgur.com/2b3ZjPH.jpg)
It's about time, feels like forever since we've had even the tiniest hint of an update.
And another one.. yep looks like its writing time.....
(https://i.imgur.com/jsaYz3Q.jpg)
Chino did an interview on Chi:
https://www.revolvermag.com/music/deftones-chino-moreno-remembers-chi-cheng-he-was-always-just-chi (https://www.revolvermag.com/music/deftones-chino-moreno-remembers-chi-cheng-he-was-always-just-chi)
^I read that last week when it came out, really good stuff. Gotta miss Chi :'(
Looks like that article came out almost 5 years ago... is the date on it incorrect?
Quote from: nicklav on Apr 18, 2018, 11:32 PM
Looks like that article came out almost 5 years ago... is the date on it incorrect?
I think they were just reposting it because it was the anniversary of Chi's passing.
Quote from: kurtone on Apr 19, 2018, 04:41 PM
Quote from: nicklav on Apr 18, 2018, 11:32 PM
Looks like that article came out almost 5 years ago... is the date on it incorrect?
I think they were just reposting it because it was the anniversary of Chi's passing.
Oh I see! That makes more sense why I've been seeing it everywhere all of a sudden.
Another pic from inside the studio.
(https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/f0c9a0fa55127c85a5fd119042ebd33d/5B622901/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/p640x640/30593728_1973899606273735_7379446665767288832_n.jpg)
See this Instagram photo by @deftones https://www.instagram.com/p/BiA-Dm3hC4V/?utm_source=ig_web_share (https://www.instagram.com/p/BiA-Dm3hC4V/?utm_source=ig_web_share)
OFFICIAL.
Their next shows aren't for like a month, right? So more likely they're recording new music (or writing/jamming at the very least) than rehearsing?
Quote from: ANattyRat on Apr 26, 2018, 03:16 AM
Their next shows aren't for like a month, right? So more likely they're recording new music (or writing/jamming at the very least) than rehearsing?
They're definitely not rehearsing this long before a show.
First studio pics were a month ago.
Definitely writing /recording
Hell yeah! 2 more hours!
Had to use google translate but this is a new interview with Chino
http://rock.com.ar/notas/chino-moreno-de-deftones-las-drogas-te-arruinan-y-te-desintegran (http://rock.com.ar/notas/chino-moreno-de-deftones-las-drogas-te-arruinan-y-te-desintegran)
QuoteHow many ideas do you have for the new material?
- There are six or seven songs, which are still mutating. They are very powerful, and I am anxious because, as I told you before, it has been a collaborative process. I think all our albums were postcards of what we were going through at each moment. Either with "Adrenaline" (1995), we were boys, with "White pony", we had matured a little, with "Diamond eyes" (2010) or with which we are recording. Everyone has their own feeling, because it belongs to an era. Today we are older guys, I suppose, but we still enjoy making songs with marked riffs, cool melodies and a lot of groove. It is fun.
QuoteAlthough Stephen wrote a lot of the songs, he said he was dissatisfied with the last record. To what do you attribute your anger?
-A that he had some personal problems, and he was not entirely creative. We all had conflicts once, and nobody is exempt. So we understood, although it was not the ideal situation to record. We went ahead, going to the studio and putting together what we felt like. He was physically, but he did not contribute much. At the last moment he put his "touch" to the album, but he was not very involved from the beginning. That situation made him bitter, but at the same time I did not want to waste my time doing nothing. The others continue composing, and if he had been part of the process, "Gore" would have been totally different and much better. After all, that's what we all wanted. We really want Stephen to have a strong role on all the albums, but in this case it did not turn out the way we wanted. Most of his problems were not about Deftones, but about personal things. The best part is that now we are writing songs for the new album, and unlike "Gore", it's been a joint effort.
6 or 7 songs, that's half way there. LOL.
Six or seven songs is decent, I'm excited. Sounds like whatever was going on in Stef's life put him in a place where he wasn't much into the creative zone, but seems like he's fully on-board this time around, so that's awesome.
http://www.metalinjection.net/latest-news/deftones-frontman-confirms-stephen-carpenter-is-very-involved-in-new-album (http://www.metalinjection.net/latest-news/deftones-frontman-confirms-stephen-carpenter-is-very-involved-in-new-album)
Looks like next year. Hopefully early!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcsandiego.com/blogs/sounddiego/Chino-Moreno-Drops-Deftones-Details-Dia-de-los-Deftones-Petco-Park-San-Diego-Padres--564125481.html%3famp=y
Yo, I'm looking for a bass drum picture of the Selftitled era, exactly one of the bandaged love artwork. Thanks in advance if someone could help me with that
(https://scontent.fbaq6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/529461_10151234716282657_620386536_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ohc=dbGppeI5ckwAX9iHpP5&_nc_ht=scontent.fbaq6-1.fna&oh=d78912c3ced325d525c01b6283f07483&oe=5EDA2643)
https://www.hauraki.co.nz/shows/weekdays-with-angelina-grey/angelina-grey-interviews-frank-delgado-of-deftones/?fbclid=IwAR1a3LacKZBisxGqeb0tGtmV-cuB7WS2x0y6n8zFeMrFqXar8UDkNZ2SmSU
Sound like it's a good few months away.
Maybe someone has Deftones self-titled CD booklet as high res pictures and could upload here? I want to decorate my room.
Quote from: endstand on Jun 02, 2020, 04:13 PM
Maybe someone has Deftones self-titled CD booklet as high res pictures and could upload here? I want to decorate my room.
Every page of the booklet is uploaded there, I suppose they count as HQ.
https://www.discogs.com/Deftones-Deftones/release/1643398
https://www.kerrang.com/features/the-20-greatest-deftones-songs-ranked/
I must say. It's kinda shitty of them to mistake the lyrics of Deftones' Diamond Eyes for Shinedown's Diamond Eyes. I mean. Really?
lmao
Lol journalists. It makes you wonder if the writer has even ever heard a Deftones song in his life. Seems more like Kerrang assigned him to make a top 20 Deftones songs article so he just googled the 20 most popular Deftones songs and called it a day.
White Pony was the cover/feature piece in this month's Metal Hammer.
Listened to that podcast earlier. I think that's the best long-form interview I've heard from any member of the band. Really interesting.
Really great interview but man, spit that gum out Chino.
Quote from: LG95 on Jul 07, 2020, 09:34 PM
Listened to that podcast earlier. I think that's the best long-form interview I've heard from any member of the band. Really interesting.
i agree. Chino really talked about a lot, and remembers way more than i thought. best interview from him maybe ever. at least the most in depth
most interviews from him he says the same basic stuff for the most part (maybe a new nugget here and there), not here, he really felt like talking about a lot of things this time. he really opened up
Yeah, that podcast interview was great - the info on him growing up and forming the band with Stephen was especially interesting.
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Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 01, 2020, 02:52 AM
Had the chance to be interviewed about DeftonesLive by Musically Meditated Podcast. Loved the experience, check it out on Spotify and Stitcher!
https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/musically-meditated-podcast/e/76553363?autoplay=true
https://open.spotify.com/episode/3NFdd0bWceT2RJUAtgNjGj?si=sryg7ZrIQ5-lo8_z23DbhQ
nice interview. listened to the whole thing. you think there's any way to find out their exact record sales? last list we saw in jan 2007. i don't understand why RIAA doesn't make a website with exact sales numbers (not just is it gold or platinum). also has Gore ever been remixed? cause i really like the album, but man that mix is rough
Be cool if someone could upload the new Revolver Magazine feature on WP. Don't think I can get hold of it in the UK without paying a huge shipping fee.
https://www.loudersound.com/features/deftones-eros-story-lost-album
Quote from: LG95 on Aug 05, 2020, 10:46 AM
Be cool if someone could upload the new Revolver Magazine feature on WP. Don't think I can get hold of it in the UK without paying a huge shipping fee.
Anyone got this? Particularly interested in them interviewing Maynard about WP.
Someone on the Tool subreddit copied up the Maynard references from the Revolver White Pony feature.
Quote"'Great album, one of their best,' says Tool singer Maynard James Keenan, who duets with Moreno on moody standout track "Passenger," and played a brief but impactful role during some of the writing sessions."
...
"There was a new character in the room with them, as well: Maynard James Keenan. The Tool singer had been hanging out with Moreno, and he came to Mates [Rehearsal Studios] to socialize, while also weighing in on arrangements, riff structures, time signatures. "We had this idea that he was going to executive-produce," Moreno remembers. "It wasn't really clarified, but he was down to help us work on the record."
Cunningham mainly recalls Keenan coming around with bottles of champagne and Tibetan Singing Bowls -- instruments used by Buddhist monks in meditation practice, and as a path toward stress relief and emotional clarity, soothing your weary theta brain waves. The metal bowls are played by tapping or rubbing with a wooden mallet.
"I was told the guys were having a bit of writer's block or some turmoil within the band. Who knows? They certainly weren't going to discuss that with me, an almost total stranger," Keenan says now. He recalls the band as good company and "very strong-willed gents. Dare I say stubborn. ... Up to that point, they seemed to have been able to navigate through their differences in ideas and approaches. Great first efforts. The evidence is all there. I felt like they just needed a bit of new perspective."
"I had them each switch instruments, play on the bowls, take one loop and try some improvisation," Keenan adds. "The look on their faces was priceless. I might as well have been wearing hippie beads and bunny ears. I could just feel Stephen thinking, 'What kind of acid-trip crap is this?"
Moreno remembers Keenan contributing to a few songs-in-progress, particularly "Passenger." As that piece was coming together musically, Keenan was inspired to step behind the mic to improvise a vocal melody. But his incipient executive-producer role didn't stick and the singer got busy with another new act: A Perfect Circle. Keenan also felt his place as instigator/coach/counselor was mostly completed.
"I stuck around long enough for them to start itching to not have me around," he says. "Eventually, it was time for me to let them be. The result of my interruption was for them to unconsciously remember or feel what connected them in the first place. By the time I saw them again, they had opened their own creative floodgates."
...
One of the final tracks completed was "Passenger," partly because Moreno still heard echoes of Keenan's spontaneous vocal melody from the Mates [Rehearsal Studios] writing sessions. Moreno invited him back, and they both sketched out lyrics to wail amid the song's eerie swirl of sounds. [Terry] Date remembers the Tool singer coming by the studio several times. "I think he and Chino's brains work very much the same. Maynard likes to do his vocals after the music is recorded, and Chino's the same way," says the producer. Keenan recalls being content at the recording session "to assume the role that I've become accustomed to: Most pieces in place, now navigate the puzzle in front of you."
Posted in Eros thread however, reposting here as well: https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/deftones-drummer-explains-why-eros-album-remains-unreleased/
Where are they located??
Quote from: sharinglungs on Aug 25, 2020, 12:57 AM
Where are they located??
Mexico, sorry dude I couldn't help myself...
Ah ok, I got the time figured out for when they'll be live my time now! Only 5 more hours
Steph was on the B-Real podcast again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI0geuo4Ekk
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 25, 2020, 08:41 PM
Steph was on the B-Real podcast again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI0geuo4Ekk
Any "Ohms" discussion?
I haven't watched all of it but they do touch on the video.
New interview
https://www.upsetmagazine.com/magazine/september-2020?fbclid=IwAR1MfgOuDskPKM__qHl4HOQ0U0D0Cuai-So5MytkZz2cdvw8InGiG06VNoM
new interview with Chino
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6cfAlm60NAwqQejXFbGr1l
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 03, 2020, 12:06 AM
new interview with Chino
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6cfAlm60NAwqQejXFbGr1l
Man that was a great long interview with Chino. The Peer Pleasure Podcast has had a ton of great artists interviewed so pretty excited to hear Chino make it on.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 03, 2020, 12:06 AM
new interview with Chino
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6cfAlm60NAwqQejXFbGr1l
That was a great interview, so much good stuff, I liked the part where Chino said he was in the hardware shop with his mask on, and the guy behind the till was like "I KNOW IT'S YOU, EVEN WITH THE MASK ON" ;D
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 03, 2020, 01:45 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 03, 2020, 12:06 AM
new interview with Chino
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6cfAlm60NAwqQejXFbGr1l
That was a great interview, so much good stuff, I liked the part where Chino said he was in the hardware shop with his mask on, and the guy behind the till was like "I KNOW IT'S YOU, EVEN WITH THE MASK ON" ;D
Take a shot every time Chino says "or whatever". You'll be fucked up!
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 04, 2020, 04:49 AM
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 03, 2020, 01:45 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 03, 2020, 12:06 AM
new interview with Chino
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6cfAlm60NAwqQejXFbGr1l
That was a great interview, so much good stuff, I liked the part where Chino said he was in the hardware shop with his mask on, and the guy behind the till was like "I KNOW IT'S YOU, EVEN WITH THE MASK ON" ;D
Take a shot every time Chino says "or whatever". You'll be fucked up!
"You know what I mean"
Quote from: kurtone on Sep 04, 2020, 05:29 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 04, 2020, 04:49 AM
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 03, 2020, 01:45 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 03, 2020, 12:06 AM
new interview with Chino
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6cfAlm60NAwqQejXFbGr1l
That was a great interview, so much good stuff, I liked the part where Chino said he was in the hardware shop with his mask on, and the guy behind the till was like "I KNOW IT'S YOU, EVEN WITH THE MASK ON" ;D
Take a shot every time Chino says "or whatever". You'll be fucked up!
"You know what I mean"
Hahahahahah, I was exactly going to post this.......... :)
Quote from: tarkil on Sep 05, 2020, 09:02 AM
Quote from: kurtone on Sep 04, 2020, 05:29 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 04, 2020, 04:49 AM
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Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 03, 2020, 12:06 AM
new interview with Chino
https://open.spotify.com/episode/6cfAlm60NAwqQejXFbGr1l
That was a great interview, so much good stuff, I liked the part where Chino said he was in the hardware shop with his mask on, and the guy behind the till was like "I KNOW IT'S YOU, EVEN WITH THE MASK ON" ;D
Take a shot every time Chino says "or whatever". You'll be fucked up!
"You know what I mean"
Hahahahahah, I was exactly going to post this.......... :)
Or "like". If you took a shot for every time he said "like", you'd be dead before too long ;D
https://www.upsetmagazine.com/magazine/september-2020
Anyone got this magazine or can get it and scan it? Or post the review???? Apparently they call it their Magnum Opus.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 08, 2020, 04:07 PM
https://www.upsetmagazine.com/magazine/september-2020
Anyone got this magazine or can get it and scan it? Or post the review???? Apparently they call it their Magnum Opus.
I have it, will scan it later
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 08, 2020, 04:29 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 08, 2020, 04:07 PM
https://www.upsetmagazine.com/magazine/september-2020
Anyone got this magazine or can get it and scan it? Or post the review???? Apparently they call it their Magnum Opus.
I have it, will scan it later
Thanks!
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 08, 2020, 04:07 PM
https://www.upsetmagazine.com/magazine/september-2020
Anyone got this magazine or can get it and scan it? Or post the review???? Apparently they call it their Magnum Opus.
Where did you hear that? Just interested.
Upset Mag
https://wi.to/eafd997c7d96c218 (https://wi.to/eafd997c7d96c218)
https://wi.to/4d97e5236dbfa98c (https://wi.to/4d97e5236dbfa98c)
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Quote from: Gaz on Sep 08, 2020, 06:07 PM
Upset Mag
https://wi.to/eafd997c7d96c218 (https://wi.to/eafd997c7d96c218)
https://wi.to/4d97e5236dbfa98c (https://wi.to/4d97e5236dbfa98c)
https://wi.to/6627d8c64e5e96ff (https://wi.to/6627d8c64e5e96ff)
https://wi.to/959c8542b14df52f (https://wi.to/959c8542b14df52f)
https://wi.to/2d105f0490499869 (https://wi.to/2d105f0490499869)
Much appreciated, man
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 08, 2020, 05:47 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 08, 2020, 04:07 PM
https://www.upsetmagazine.com/magazine/september-2020
Anyone got this magazine or can get it and scan it? Or post the review???? Apparently they call it their Magnum Opus.
Where did you hear that? Just interested.
That's what their UK PR person said was in the review
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 08, 2020, 06:07 PM
Upset Mag
https://wi.to/eafd997c7d96c218 (https://wi.to/eafd997c7d96c218)
https://wi.to/4d97e5236dbfa98c (https://wi.to/4d97e5236dbfa98c)
https://wi.to/6627d8c64e5e96ff (https://wi.to/6627d8c64e5e96ff)
https://wi.to/959c8542b14df52f (https://wi.to/959c8542b14df52f)
https://wi.to/2d105f0490499869 (https://wi.to/2d105f0490499869)
Thanks dude, great read.
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 08, 2020, 06:07 PM
Upset Mag
https://wi.to/eafd997c7d96c218 (https://wi.to/eafd997c7d96c218)
https://wi.to/4d97e5236dbfa98c (https://wi.to/4d97e5236dbfa98c)
https://wi.to/6627d8c64e5e96ff (https://wi.to/6627d8c64e5e96ff)
https://wi.to/959c8542b14df52f (https://wi.to/959c8542b14df52f)
https://wi.to/2d105f0490499869 (https://wi.to/2d105f0490499869)
Woah, man. What a great interview and what a great article.
Thanks for share.
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 08, 2020, 06:07 PM
Upset Mag
https://wi.to/eafd997c7d96c218 (https://wi.to/eafd997c7d96c218)
https://wi.to/4d97e5236dbfa98c (https://wi.to/4d97e5236dbfa98c)
https://wi.to/6627d8c64e5e96ff (https://wi.to/6627d8c64e5e96ff)
https://wi.to/959c8542b14df52f (https://wi.to/959c8542b14df52f)
https://wi.to/2d105f0490499869 (https://wi.to/2d105f0490499869)
All those links do for me is open up a spam page to download a vpn or something else. Any idea what I'm going wrong?
Quote from: Big Boss on Sep 09, 2020, 05:04 PM
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 08, 2020, 06:07 PM
Upset Mag
https://wi.to/eafd997c7d96c218 (https://wi.to/eafd997c7d96c218)
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All those links do for me is open up a spam page to download a vpn or something else. Any idea what I'm going wrong?
You need to make an account
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 09, 2020, 05:28 PM
Quote from: Big Boss on Sep 09, 2020, 05:04 PM
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 08, 2020, 06:07 PM
Upset Mag
https://wi.to/eafd997c7d96c218 (https://wi.to/eafd997c7d96c218)
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https://wi.to/2d105f0490499869 (https://wi.to/2d105f0490499869)
All those links do for me is open up a spam page to download a vpn or something else. Any idea what I'm going wrong?
You need to make an account
I can't even do that. It just opens up to a spam page again. I'm on an iPhone, if that matters?
Quote from: Big Boss on Sep 09, 2020, 06:18 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 09, 2020, 05:28 PM
Quote from: Big Boss on Sep 09, 2020, 05:04 PM
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 08, 2020, 06:07 PM
Upset Mag
https://wi.to/eafd997c7d96c218 (https://wi.to/eafd997c7d96c218)
https://wi.to/4d97e5236dbfa98c (https://wi.to/4d97e5236dbfa98c)
https://wi.to/6627d8c64e5e96ff (https://wi.to/6627d8c64e5e96ff)
https://wi.to/959c8542b14df52f (https://wi.to/959c8542b14df52f)
https://wi.to/2d105f0490499869 (https://wi.to/2d105f0490499869)
All those links do for me is open up a spam page to download a vpn or something else. Any idea what I'm going wrong?
You need to make an account
I can't even do that. It just opens up to a spam page again. I'm on an iPhone, if that matters?
dunno, i did it on my android phone
but anyway:
https://mega.nz/folder/oAUEWajZ#ptbusLPFwrDNpD6W1c1-Kg
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 09, 2020, 06:24 PM
Quote from: Big Boss on Sep 09, 2020, 06:18 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 09, 2020, 05:28 PM
Quote from: Big Boss on Sep 09, 2020, 05:04 PM
Quote from: Gaz on Sep 08, 2020, 06:07 PM
Upset Mag
https://wi.to/eafd997c7d96c218 (https://wi.to/eafd997c7d96c218)
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https://wi.to/959c8542b14df52f (https://wi.to/959c8542b14df52f)
https://wi.to/2d105f0490499869 (https://wi.to/2d105f0490499869)
All those links do for me is open up a spam page to download a vpn or something else. Any idea what I'm going wrong?
You need to make an account
I can't even do that. It just opens up to a spam page again. I'm on an iPhone, if that matters?
dunno, i did it on my android phone
but anyway:
https://mega.nz/folder/oAUEWajZ#ptbusLPFwrDNpD6W1c1-Kg
Thank you, I appreciate it. Such a great read. I saw someone on Reddit say there weren't any songs on Ohms (that they had heard, I think it was 7) that are quite as heavy as Doomed User was. So it's interesting to read this and hear that Chino is pissed off on Ohms. I feel like there will be some sporadic screaming and aggression. But I think this will be their "softest" record. Which at this point in their career, they do it pretty damn well. So I shouldn't complain despite the fact that I like heavy music and heavy Deftones more, in general.
New interview, keeping it low key af
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ0xBXqb8Ek
Did Chino just say that almost every track is connected and transitions into each other?
Holy fuck the wait for this is excruciating
The Upset Mag gave me some expectations for the album... but then Chino say in it that you shouldn't have expectations :(
He said almost every song blends into one another, the beginning of Ohms we're hearing the outro of the last song. The wait is definitely excruciating, but we're almost there! So close... ;D
And new video next week! Lol
I was pretty mad when the interviewer stopped chino when he was talking about the intro and outro. just shut the fuck up and let him talk.
genesis 18/09 confirmed then?
Quote from: Inkblades on Aug 20, 2020, 04:09 PM
I think the weird, creepy sounding synthlike distortion in the very beginning is a hint as to what Headless will sound like because it's track 9.
Goddamn, right again!
Quote from: GR1X7S on Sep 10, 2020, 02:47 AM
Did Chino just say that almost every track is connected and transitions into each other?
Holy fuck the wait for this is excruciating
This is excellent news. One of the reasons KNY was so great was how a lot of the tracks flowed into each other.
Interview with Abe: talks about the intro to Radiant City, the making of Ohms, and what his favorite song off of Ohms is.
https://youtu.be/sCug4vaiQP4
Yeah, he pretty much said the eyes were not meant to represent Chi's.
But he also said it's a pretty crazy coincidence how much the picture of Chi lines up with it.
So, from Abe's description, it's safe to say that Radiant City is the song Kerrang said starts with a rapid bassline from Sergio. I'm now gonna try to feed Abe mimicking Sergio's bass into AHA to see if Radiant City comes up.
Quote from: Roidragee on Sep 10, 2020, 11:56 PM
Interview with Abe: talks about the intro to Radiant City, the making of Ohms, and what his favorite song off of Ohms is.
https://youtu.be/sCug4vaiQP4
The interviewer really did my head in. But some nice info from Abe!
Quote from: punkflop01 on Sep 11, 2020, 09:08 AM
Quote from: Roidragee on Sep 10, 2020, 11:56 PM
Interview with Abe: talks about the intro to Radiant City, the making of Ohms, and what his favorite song off of Ohms is.
https://youtu.be/sCug4vaiQP4
The interviewer really did my head in. But some nice info from Abe!
She was brutal, especially laughing at her own jokes and talking over Abe.
https://uproxx.com/indie/chino-moreno-reviews-every-deftones-album-ohms-interview/
Some interesting tidbits about Nick Raskulinecz's working relationship with the band that I didn't know in that last article - they wanted him to produce Gore but he wasn't available and he evidently wasn't around for all of Koi No Yokan.
good read
Quote from: LG95 on Sep 11, 2020, 04:17 PM
https://uproxx.com/indie/chino-moreno-reviews-every-deftones-album-ohms-interview/
Yeah it sounds like things kind of tapered off with Nick - makes sense they'd want to go back to Terry
https://play.acast.com/s/offthebeatandtrack/specialguest-deftones-abecunningham
Missed this 2 days ago
Stef confirms that Eros is complete instrumentally.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 15, 2020, 12:15 AM
Stef confirms that Eros is complete instrumentally.
There are so much contradicting information about this. I def heard somewhere saying chi's part weren't completed. I guess it was bullshit. Maybe it was mis communication and that person meant Chino's part.
The weed talk is so lame ::)
I don't really have time for a two hour interview. What's the time mark for the Eros talk? Any other important/interesting info?
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 15, 2020, 02:06 AM
I don't really have time for a two hour interview. What's the time mark for the Eros talk? Any other important/interesting info?
All the music for Ohms was finished last summer, and it took chino the rest of the year through christmas to record his vocals and he doesn't seem a big fan of this.
Sorry if this was posted before
https://www.loudersound.com/news/lost-deftones-album-eros-might-never-be-released-chino-moreno-admits?fbclid=IwAR1VxkdDU2lAEfNjtHBss3mI2ofmF3iVn1eO5IXIVmTMy0qPmJkcOeTLQXQ
Thank god Stef doesn't have full control of the deftones sound because it'd be chino singing over Meshuggah riffs.
I wish fans and media would get over eros and just accept it will never come out. I'm tired of interviews asking about it constantly.
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 15, 2020, 12:15 AM
Stef confirms that Eros is complete instrumentally.
He actually said that a few times in interviews around the DE era. Crazy how Chino says it's nowhere near finished at all but Stef said it's only the vocals that need to be done. I'm sure Stef also said the vocals are halfway done on the songs too.
Kinda sucks for stef that he can't write the riffs he'd naturally write if he had full control over the music.
edit: even though I'd hate it. he used to be the main song writer
I love interviews with Steph because he's usually more candid about the inner workings of the band. When he talked about Eros being done instrumentally and Chino not being enthused about the music it just kind of made sense considering everything else they've said about their process. It's too bad Chino will probably never feel up to finishing the record, even though the music is there but from what Steph was also saying that Chino finishes the vocals last but ends up changing the music.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 15, 2020, 06:25 AM
Kinda sucks that stef can't write the riffs he'd naturally write if he had full control over the music.
You said you'd hate that though
Kinda glad they don't try to be Meshuggah. Their broad spectrum of sound and influence is how they carved their own path in music.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 15, 2020, 02:43 AM
Thank god Stef doesn't have full control of the deftones sound because it'd be chino singing over Meshuggah riffs.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 15, 2020, 06:25 AM
Kinda sucks that stef can't write the riffs he'd naturally write if he had full control over the music.
lol
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 15, 2020, 02:06 AM
I don't really have time for a two hour interview. What's the time mark for the Eros talk? Any other important/interesting info?
Stef also said he took a backseat in the songwriting process on Ohms, but that his parts are mixed into the songs. He basically said the songwriting process was pretty similar to Gore. But that the song Ohms (as well as Rubicon on Gore) are all his.
Quote from: mandalay on Sep 15, 2020, 08:21 AM
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 15, 2020, 02:06 AM
I don't really have time for a two hour interview. What's the time mark for the Eros talk? Any other important/interesting info?
Stef also said he took a backseat in the songwriting process on Ohms, but that his parts are mixed into the songs. He basically said the songwriting process was pretty similar to Gore. But that the song Ohms (as well as Rubicon on Gore) are all his.
So is this another Gore situation? Because everything we've heard so far prior to this seems to indicate that everyone was involved and present during the process. That they can all be heard. Is Steph indicating that he was distant on Ohms like Gore while Chino is trying to spin a different narrative?
I think he's just saying that he didn't write the songs. Like he wrote ohms, that's Stephen's song. But the rest is full band, everyone has their hands in it.
He also says he plays the 9 string in a couple of the songs, it's not super present but it's there.
Quote from: I_Know_ok on Sep 15, 2020, 07:54 AM
Quote from: buflen on Sep 15, 2020, 02:43 AM
Thank god Stef doesn't have full control of the deftones sound because it'd be chino singing over Meshuggah riffs.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 15, 2020, 06:25 AM
Kinda sucks that stef can't write the riffs he'd naturally write if he had full control over the music.
lol
both can be true. I wouldn't like it personally, but it sucks for him, it makes sense why he's not as involved anymore in the writing process..
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 15, 2020, 12:06 PM
I think he's just saying that he didn't write the songs. Like he wrote ohms, that's Stephen's song. But the rest is full band, everyone has their hands in it.
He also says he plays the 9 string in a couple of the songs, it's not super present but it's there.
He did mention it was mostly chino and sergio's idea. Doesn't mean he did not contribute more on these ideas than on gore. But after his meshuggah comments, it all makes sense IMO, and I trust chino more to keep deftones sounding like deftones than Stef.
Stef's Corona talk is just embarrassing. It's a good thing shows are cancelled right now. Yeah, the average person is likely to survive, but if it weren't for social distancing and mask policies, deaths of the sick and elderly would go through the roof again. Hard to see such an inspiring musician be so susceptible to conspiracies and Trump's lies.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 15, 2020, 02:00 PM
I also want to say I wouldn't mind if Stef took a lot more of the creative lead, especially guitar tone wise. The breakdown of Rats is as death metal as it gets and I really wish I could hear some more of THOSE Deftones.
I prefer Stephen's melodic yet heavy riffs (ie KimDracula, street carp... all of ATF) over his djent CHUGCHUGCHUG riffs. It's great in small doses but it gets old fast.
The main riff on Rats is definitely inspired by the start of I by Meshuggah.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 15, 2020, 03:02 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 15, 2020, 02:00 PM
I also want to say I wouldn't mind if Stef took a lot more of the creative lead, especially guitar tone wise. The breakdown of Rats is as death metal as it gets and I really wish I could hear some more of THOSE Deftones.
I prefer Stephen's melodic yet heavy riffs (ie KimDracula, street carp... all of ATF) over his djent CHUGCHUGCHUG riffs. It's great in small doses but it gets old fast.
I completely agree, songs like Doomed User, Rats, even his riff on DE are like that CHUGGA CHUGGA and they are not necessarily that brilliant sounding. I like the songs don't get me wrong but to me they sound exactly what it is: Stef doing Meshuggah while the rest of the band does their thing. They're more interesting songs are when they are just them, i.e. BQAD, Digital Bath, etc.
Interesting fact I didn't know about - best song on Gore was written by Stef.
Would be cool to hear one experimental record from them with Stef not sitting in the back seat this time. Unfortunately it won't happen.
Quote from: buflen on Sep 15, 2020, 03:02 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 15, 2020, 02:00 PM
I also want to say I wouldn't mind if Stef took a lot more of the creative lead, especially guitar tone wise. The breakdown of Rats is as death metal as it gets and I really wish I could hear some more of THOSE Deftones.
I prefer Stephen's melodic yet heavy riffs (ie KimDracula, street carp... all of ATF) over his djent CHUGCHUGCHUG riffs. It's great in small doses but it gets old fast.
Same. I've always thought of Stef's trademark sound as the brash/bright/dissonant tones that he's able to achieve and are very unique to him, as is his overall tone. The djent riffs are a bit derivative and start pigeonholing their sound. One of the upsides of having Chino on guitar is that it offsets some of that by both the sounds themselves but also the way it forces Stef to work around it.
Quote from: Sleeping_Giant on Sep 15, 2020, 10:31 PM
Interesting fact I didn't know about - best song on Gore was written by Stef.
Would be cool to hear one experimental record from them with Stef not sitting in the back seat this time. Unfortunately it won't happen.
Yea. Rubicon is probably my fav song on that album. Shit was epic when I saw them play it live.
yea lets get back to deftones related stuff. take this to the political topics
Its ok guys relax the Clippers lost today keep ya heads up
Quote from: Roidragee on Sep 16, 2020, 05:42 AM
Its ok guys relax the Clippers lost today keep ya heads up
lol
guys look it's a puppy! look at the wittle guy :D he says "powitics? wats dat?"
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSMChUXKqPbrUvololFLu5X1M3ylq1ihVpgYg&usqp=CAU)
i wonder if genesis will leak 1 day early like Ohms did. the song anyway. we definitely have to wait until the 18th for the video
It will because New Zealand gets the song early due to its time zone. I'm gonna wait for the video.
Quote from: Draken on Sep 16, 2020, 05:56 AM
guys look it's a puppy! look at the wittle guy :D he says "powitics? wats dat?"
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSMChUXKqPbrUvololFLu5X1M3ylq1ihVpgYg&usqp=CAU)
;D
If Stef caught Covid he would be fucked, considering he belongs to a risk group. Don't know why he chooses to be so ignorant, it's sad.
And please, feel free to ban me. It's ok. I love you all and had mostly good times on this board ❤️
Take the Covid/political chat somewhere else please
(https://myfirstpomeranian.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/pomeranian-teacup-300x169.jpg)
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON IN HERE??!! 😳
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Sep 16, 2020, 08:55 PM
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON IN HERE??!! 😳
It's 2020, this is what all conversations eventually devolve into.
Quote from: nicklav on Sep 16, 2020, 09:09 PM
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Sep 16, 2020, 08:55 PM
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON IN HERE??!! 😳
It's 2020, this is what all conversations eventually devolve into.
Dear God we need this new Album and Quick LOL
How Deftones Outlived Countless Rock Trends — And Are 'Bigger Than They've Ever Been'. Also gives a small description of Radiant City and This Link is Dead
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/9449413/deftones-chino-moreno-ohms-interview
"Wakefield teases a few "big, tentpole" surprises for fans leading up to the release of OHMS"
What the Fuck does this mean!?! Lol
What are we going to see next week from them? Live stream?
Quote from: sharinglungs on Sep 18, 2020, 04:52 PM
"Wakefield teases a few "big, tentpole" surprises for fans leading up to the release of OHMS"
What the Fuck does this mean!?! Lol
What are we going to see next week from them? Live stream?
big tent pole sounds like an erection.
Quote from: Roidragee on Sep 18, 2020, 04:45 PM
How Deftones Outlived Countless Rock Trends — And Are 'Bigger Than They've Ever Been'. Also gives a small description of Radiant City and This Link is Dead
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/9449413/deftones-chino-moreno-ohms-interview
I feel like we've read the same article ever since Diamond Eyes released. Deftones outlived nu-metal. Check. Chi was in an accident and passed. Check. Working on album called Eros that was shelved. Check. They write more about the history of the band than the actual new music coming out.
Let's get back to this "big tent poll" thing. The record is released in a week. What is in the mix ahead of that I wonder?
Quote from: 976-EVIL on Sep 18, 2020, 08:02 PM
Let's get back to this "big tent poll" thing. The record is released in a week. What is in the mix ahead of that I wonder?
Eros release date announced... lol probably not but idk what else it could be
Following buflen's theory, maybe Stef's announcing he's got an OnlyFans page.
Here's a German review of the album, but Google's translation is pretty bad:
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.musikreviews.de/reviews/2020/Deftones/Ohms/&prev=search&pto=aue
Chino will be on BBC 6 Music on the Mary Anne Hobbs show today
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_6music
Show starts at 10.30am
https://www.talesfromtheboocrew.com/post/the-boo-crew-conjure-up-an-in-depth-hang-out-with-chino-moreno-of-deftones
Cool interview. Possible return of Crosses \m/
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 08:21 PM
There is massive outpouring of interviews right now (with all of them if not almost). Would be cool if someone could compile them all here, I don't have the time for it right now.
NME Chino Interview
https://www.nme.com/music-interviews/deftones-chino-moreno-ohms-interview-therapy-eros-2758778 (https://www.nme.com/music-interviews/deftones-chino-moreno-ohms-interview-therapy-eros-2758778)
Terry Date Interview
https://everythingrecording.com/of-metal-and-immortality/ (https://everythingrecording.com/of-metal-and-immortality/)
Making the Videos
https://plsn.com/featured/featured-slider/producing-a-new-deftones-video-during-covid-times/ (https://plsn.com/featured/featured-slider/producing-a-new-deftones-video-during-covid-times/)
Billboard Chino Interview
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/9449413/deftones-chino-moreno-ohms-interview (https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/9449413/deftones-chino-moreno-ohms-interview)
Vulture Interview with Chino
Trevor Jackson, Clams Casino, along with DJ Shadow confirmed on Black Stallion
https://www.vulture.com/2020/09/deftones-chino-moreno-interview-ohms.html (https://www.vulture.com/2020/09/deftones-chino-moreno-interview-ohms.html)
WallofSound Interview with Abe
https://wallofsoundau.com/2020/09/24/abe-cunningham-deftones-ohms-brotherhood-white-pony-tales/ (https://wallofsoundau.com/2020/09/24/abe-cunningham-deftones-ohms-brotherhood-white-pony-tales/)
Overdrive Interview with Sergio
https://www.overdrive.ie/feature-interview-deftones-in-a-lot-of-ways-it-kind-of-felt-that-we-were-coming-back-home-sergio-vega/ (https://www.overdrive.ie/feature-interview-deftones-in-a-lot-of-ways-it-kind-of-felt-that-we-were-coming-back-home-sergio-vega/)
Chino Interview About Favorite Songs
https://www.thelineofbestfit.com/features/interviews/deftones-chino-moreno-nine-favourite-songs (https://www.thelineofbestfit.com/features/interviews/deftones-chino-moreno-nine-favourite-songs)
Upset Interview with Chino
https://www.upsetmagazine.com/features/deftones-cover-interview-sept20 (https://www.upsetmagazine.com/features/deftones-cover-interview-sept20)
BBC Chino Interview
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000mq7q (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000mq7q)
There's more I'm sure but I'm exhausted lol
Quote from: Draken on Sep 24, 2020, 06:15 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 08:21 PM
There is massive outpouring of interviews right now (with all of them if not almost). Would be cool if someone could compile them all here, I don't have the time for it right now.
NME Chino Interview
https://www.nme.com/music-interviews/deftones-chino-moreno-ohms-interview-therapy-eros-2758778 (https://www.nme.com/music-interviews/deftones-chino-moreno-ohms-interview-therapy-eros-2758778)
Terry Date Interview
https://everythingrecording.com/of-metal-and-immortality/ (https://everythingrecording.com/of-metal-and-immortality/)
Making the Videos
https://plsn.com/featured/featured-slider/producing-a-new-deftones-video-during-covid-times/ (https://plsn.com/featured/featured-slider/producing-a-new-deftones-video-during-covid-times/)
Billboard Chino Interview
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/9449413/deftones-chino-moreno-ohms-interview (https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/9449413/deftones-chino-moreno-ohms-interview)
Vulture Interview with Chino
Trevor Jackson, Clams Casino, along with DJ Shadow confirmed on Black Stallion
https://www.vulture.com/2020/09/deftones-chino-moreno-interview-ohms.html (https://www.vulture.com/2020/09/deftones-chino-moreno-interview-ohms.html)
WallofSound Interview with Abe
https://wallofsoundau.com/2020/09/24/abe-cunningham-deftones-ohms-brotherhood-white-pony-tales/ (https://wallofsoundau.com/2020/09/24/abe-cunningham-deftones-ohms-brotherhood-white-pony-tales/)
Overdrive Interview with Sergio
https://www.overdrive.ie/feature-interview-deftones-in-a-lot-of-ways-it-kind-of-felt-that-we-were-coming-back-home-sergio-vega/ (https://www.overdrive.ie/feature-interview-deftones-in-a-lot-of-ways-it-kind-of-felt-that-we-were-coming-back-home-sergio-vega/)
Chino Interview About Favorite Songs
https://www.thelineofbestfit.com/features/interviews/deftones-chino-moreno-nine-favourite-songs (https://www.thelineofbestfit.com/features/interviews/deftones-chino-moreno-nine-favourite-songs)
Upset Interview with Chino
https://www.upsetmagazine.com/features/deftones-cover-interview-sept20 (https://www.upsetmagazine.com/features/deftones-cover-interview-sept20)
BBC Chino Interview
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000mq7q (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000mq7q)
There's more I'm sure but I'm exhausted lol
This is awesome man. Thank you for this!
The interview with Sergio is awesome!
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2020-09-24/deftones-covid-19-new-album-ohms-metal-fans?
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 24, 2020, 10:48 AM
The interview with Sergio is awesome!
Sergio writing genesis mostly by himself is very interesting. He brings a lot more than your usual "replacement bassist"
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Quote from: Moz La Punk on Sep 24, 2020, 10:48 AM
The interview with Sergio is awesome!
Sergio writing genesis mostly by himself is very interesting. He brings a lot more than your usual "replacement bassist"
Yes he does, didn't know he contributed vocals... interesting. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I sorta remember hearing that he also wrote Acid Hologram, which happens to be my favorite song off Gore.
LOL he also goes on to say "You can let all your readers know that I'm watching [Laughing]."
I wonder if he lurks over here. If he does: What's up Sergio! Love you, brother!
Quote from: Draken on Sep 24, 2020, 06:15 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 23, 2020, 08:21 PM
There is massive outpouring of interviews right now (with all of them if not almost). Would be cool if someone could compile them all here, I don't have the time for it right now.
NME Chino Interview
https://www.nme.com/music-interviews/deftones-chino-moreno-ohms-interview-therapy-eros-2758778 (https://www.nme.com/music-interviews/deftones-chino-moreno-ohms-interview-therapy-eros-2758778)
Terry Date Interview
https://everythingrecording.com/of-metal-and-immortality/ (https://everythingrecording.com/of-metal-and-immortality/)
Making the Videos
https://plsn.com/featured/featured-slider/producing-a-new-deftones-video-during-covid-times/ (https://plsn.com/featured/featured-slider/producing-a-new-deftones-video-during-covid-times/)
Billboard Chino Interview
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/9449413/deftones-chino-moreno-ohms-interview (https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/9449413/deftones-chino-moreno-ohms-interview)
Vulture Interview with Chino
Trevor Jackson, Clams Casino, along with DJ Shadow confirmed on Black Stallion
https://www.vulture.com/2020/09/deftones-chino-moreno-interview-ohms.html (https://www.vulture.com/2020/09/deftones-chino-moreno-interview-ohms.html)
WallofSound Interview with Abe
https://wallofsoundau.com/2020/09/24/abe-cunningham-deftones-ohms-brotherhood-white-pony-tales/ (https://wallofsoundau.com/2020/09/24/abe-cunningham-deftones-ohms-brotherhood-white-pony-tales/)
Overdrive Interview with Sergio
https://www.overdrive.ie/feature-interview-deftones-in-a-lot-of-ways-it-kind-of-felt-that-we-were-coming-back-home-sergio-vega/ (https://www.overdrive.ie/feature-interview-deftones-in-a-lot-of-ways-it-kind-of-felt-that-we-were-coming-back-home-sergio-vega/)
Chino Interview About Favorite Songs
https://www.thelineofbestfit.com/features/interviews/deftones-chino-moreno-nine-favourite-songs (https://www.thelineofbestfit.com/features/interviews/deftones-chino-moreno-nine-favourite-songs)
Upset Interview with Chino
https://www.upsetmagazine.com/features/deftones-cover-interview-sept20 (https://www.upsetmagazine.com/features/deftones-cover-interview-sept20)
BBC Chino Interview
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000mq7q (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000mq7q)
There's more I'm sure but I'm exhausted lol
Thank you, sir!
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 24, 2020, 06:44 PM
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Just a joke, my friend. Like one of them could be using your account to read here. :)
Quote from: Far away on Sep 24, 2020, 09:06 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 24, 2020, 06:44 PM
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Just a joke, my friend. Like one of them could be using your account to read here. :)
lol whut ;D
Here's a very covid-centered interview with Chino
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2020-09-24/deftones-covid-19-new-album-ohms-metal-fans (https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2020-09-24/deftones-covid-19-new-album-ohms-metal-fans)
Deftones Special on Radio 1's Rock Show with Daniel P Carter
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000mxzr (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000mxzr)
Anyone know where a better video of this is? This is classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8R7L2NXzQZk
Steph. Lol hes had to have been a bit hard to juggle all these years. I sometimes feel like Abe n Frank and sometimes Chino have always had to do damage control here and there w Steph during interviews. Don't get me wrong I know they are all tight and always have been and that they are friends, I get it. But he is such a narcissist even if he comes off like he's joking it's a constant with him. I remember meeting him and a kid walking up and trying to give him some dope and I can't remember exactly what he said but he was kind of a dick about it and telling him he had his own and to keep his bullshit. It was funny but at the same time it is exactly what I'm talking about. Funny how Chi always instigated him too! 🤣
Quote from: Visionz on Sep 29, 2020, 12:02 AM
Steph. Lol hes had to have been a bit hard to juggle all these years. I sometimes feel like Abe n Frank and sometimes Chino have always had to do damage control here and there w Steph during interviews. Don't get me wrong I know they are all tight and always have been and that they are friends, I get it. But he is such a narcissist even if he comes off like he's joking it's a constant with him. I remember meeting him and a kid walking up and trying to give him some dope and I can't remember exactly what he said but he was kind of a dick about it and telling him he had his own and to keep his bullshit. It was funny but at the same time it is exactly what I'm talking about. Funny how Chi always instigated him too! 🤣
Steph doesn't sound like the smartest guy in the world.
Quote from: Vesanic on Sep 30, 2020, 02:08 PM
Another interview with Abe
was this recorded with a toaster?
Stef has actually come off as reasonably intelligent in a lot of interviews and just doesn't bite his tongue when you ask him about his band. He's also a guy with some peculiar beliefs, if Chino saying Stef is a flat earther is to be believed (I don't think that necessarily means the guy is stupid, just misguided and/or a contrarian). Sure, he can come off like a bit of a dick (almost every old school picture has him flipping off the camera lol) and he seems to talk the most shit in interviews with the whole band, but he's also been really illuminating/informative in a lot of his one-on-one interviews - and often more straightforward than the rest of the 'tones.
I think Stef has said recently that he no longer believes in conspiracy theories any more
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 30, 2020, 07:03 PM
Stef has actually come off as reasonably intelligent in a lot of interviews and just doesn't bite his tongue when you ask him about his band. He's also a guy with some peculiar beliefs, if Chino saying Stef is a flat earther is to be believed (I don't think that necessarily means the guy is stupid, just misguided and/or a contrarian). Sure, he can come off like a bit of a dick (almost every old school picture has him flipping off the camera lol) and he seems to talk the most shit in interviews with the whole band, but he's also been really illuminating/informative in a lot of his one-on-one interviews - and often more straightforward than the rest of the 'tones.
When hes talking about his guitar playing maybe but hes never come off to me as being the informative one. I would say since Sergio has been with them, its been him by a long shot. That guy likes to talk about things and in great detail. Steph doesnt really give a fuck. Hes always been that way i think
Anyone hear Chino's interview with Zane Lowe yesterday? I don't have Apple Music so I don't think I can listen to it.
Quote from: LG95 on Oct 01, 2020, 04:17 PM
Anyone hear Chino's interview with Zane Lowe yesterday? I don't have Apple Music so I don't think I can listen to it.
Around the Fur is his favorite album, which he's said before. He admitted they don't rehearse like they should for tours. Said Stephen says they need to practice more. Funny story about Stephen pre-covid, he wanted to not put out a new record or tour and just have the band learn all the back catalog and rent a studio and play every week and film it.
Quote from: kurtone on Oct 01, 2020, 10:00 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Oct 01, 2020, 04:17 PM
Anyone hear Chino's interview with Zane Lowe yesterday? I don't have Apple Music so I don't think I can listen to it.
Said Stephen says they need to practice more. Funny story about Stephen pre-covid, he wanted to not put out a new record or tour and just have the band learn all the back catalog and rent a studio and play every week and film it.
Good idea. Easy to forget that even pre-COVID they'd only played a handful of shows in 2018 and 2019. They're probably WAY out of practice.
n/m
A really cool interview with Chino in time for my favorite season of year, Halloween. Starts @ ~16:30 on the podcast. He talks about his favorite horror films, working on a score for Blumhouse and Hulu's "Into The Dark", NEW CROSSES!, and staying in a haunted house during the White Pony Sessions.
https://bloody-disgusting.com/podcasts/3634013/podcasts-chino-moreno-talks-horror-new-deftones-album-ohms-boo-crew/ (https://bloody-disgusting.com/podcasts/3634013/podcasts-chino-moreno-talks-horror-new-deftones-album-ohms-boo-crew/)
Don't think this has been posted - Kerrang piece with Terry Date about working with them again.
https://www.kerrang.com/features/how-terry-date-captured-the-magic-of-deftones-on-ohms/
old news mang
Quote from: kurtone on Oct 01, 2020, 10:00 PM
Quote from: LG95 on Oct 01, 2020, 04:17 PM
Anyone hear Chino's interview with Zane Lowe yesterday? I don't have Apple Music so I don't think I can listen to it.
Around the Fur is his favorite album, which he’s said before. He admitted they don’t rehearse like they should for tours. Said Stephen says they need to practice more. Funny story about Stephen pre-covid, he wanted to not put out a new record or tour and just have the band learn all the back catalog and rent a studio and play every week and film it.
Oh boy... now we need to see this happening.
Quote from: LG95 on Oct 04, 2020, 03:12 PM
Don't think this has been posted - Kerrang piece with Terry Date about working with them again.
https://www.kerrang.com/features/how-terry-date-captured-the-magic-of-deftones-on-ohms/
Really nice interview. Cool to see how Terry speaks about them. Thank you for the link.
BTW, I had no idea about the different drum setups!
google translate-
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Deftones
Ohms
Reprise/Warner
Deftones has probably never sounded better.
With new thinking and curiosity, Deftones makes a grand return.
In fact, they have probably never sounded better.
ALTERNATIVE METAL Deftones from California can hardly be accused of getting stuck in the past.
For more than 30 years, the alternative metal band has been almost allergic to the status quo. Even after the loss of member Chi Cheng, they found the strength to continue.
After the soft and relatively quiet "Gore", Deftones is now pushing in the opposite direction on their ninth album "Ohms". And that together with returning producer Terry Date , who made their first four records. Anger and frustration over, among other things, today's harsh conversational climate and polarization in society are heavily covered by Abe Cunningham's thunderous drumming, Stephen Carpenter's groovy riffs and Chino Moreno's passionate screams and sweet singing.
But beyond the wrath there is also a lot of warmth. Fascinating sensitivity, crisp melodies and atmospheric synth loops through the hard facade, signed Frank Delgado .
They even manage to make samples of screaming seagulls feel gripping.
The glow and nuances make Deftone's ninth album an unexpected peak of form.
And that at the same year that the iconic album "White Pony" and "Diamond Eyes" celebrate 20 and 10 years respectively.
Suddenly, 2020 became significantly better.
BEST TRACK: "This link is dead".
This Link Is Dead......... :-X
Quote from: from_musings on Oct 08, 2020, 01:49 PM
google translate-
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Deftones
Ohms
Reprise/Warner
Deftones has probably never sounded better.
With new thinking and curiosity, Deftones makes a grand return.
In fact, they have probably never sounded better.
ALTERNATIVE METAL Deftones from California can hardly be accused of getting stuck in the past.
For more than 30 years, the alternative metal band has been almost allergic to the status quo. Even after the loss of member Chi Cheng, they found the strength to continue.
After the soft and relatively quiet "Gore", Deftones is now pushing in the opposite direction on their ninth album "Ohms". And that together with returning producer Terry Date , who made their first four records. Anger and frustration over, among other things, today's harsh conversational climate and polarization in society are heavily covered by Abe Cunningham's thunderous drumming, Stephen Carpenter's groovy riffs and Chino Moreno's passionate screams and sweet singing.
But beyond the wrath there is also a lot of warmth. Fascinating sensitivity, crisp melodies and atmospheric synth loops through the hard facade, signed Frank Delgado .
They even manage to make samples of screaming seagulls feel gripping.
The glow and nuances make Deftone's ninth album an unexpected peak of form.
And that at the same year that the iconic album "White Pony" and "Diamond Eyes" celebrate 20 and 10 years respectively.
Suddenly, 2020 became significantly better.
BEST TRACK: "This link is dead".
Thanks for this! Definitely agreed here.
Didn't see this posted
Another interview with Abe that's kinda funny, he makes fun of Stef during the recording process and talks about the fans overlaying the Ohms eyes on Chi's picture. They mistook that for Chino and used his picture, EPIC FAIL. LOLZ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zzlVhuAWJU
Stef has wanted to do that studio lock-out idea for years - well over a decade now. It's too unconventional for the band, though ( = $$$). Stef is prob the most down to earth of the guys. Special nod to Abe and Chi too. Zero ego. Loves his fans and appreciates the success they've had. Very genuine, sweet guy. The fact that he entertains alternative theories shows he has an open mind to what's out there. Maybe he does think he's pretty smart, but he's not wrong.
lol
true, Stephen is really down to earth, and no ego. Abe as well
Chino's pretty nice too. they're all good dudes
Half an hour Daniel P Carter interview with Chino
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000nfc6
Chino must not realize how often he uses certain words like juxtaposition and dichotomy and waves ;D ive heard him use them out of context so much too. Hes cool though, dont yell at me. Yall know it too
Quote from: Visionz on Oct 19, 2020, 09:08 PM
Chino must not realize how often he uses certain words like juxtaposition and dichotomy and waves ;D ive heard him use them out of context so much too. Hes cool though, dont yell at me. Yall know it too
Someone must pay him (and the band) $500 every time they use the word "engaged" when describing the Ohms writing/recording process. It's obvious their PR person heavily preps them for these interviews and prepares responses to generic questions. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if some press are requested to ask certain questions to ensure the PR narrative is established. This manicured publicity only started with DE - immediately following Chi's accident and forward.
Quote from: Vesanic on Oct 21, 2020, 11:24 AM
I did a second interview about DeftonesLive, with Woody from 93X Radio, as part of his Deftones-dedicated podcast "Change (In The House Of Pods)"
https://omny.fm/shows/change-in-the-house-of-pods/ep-06-vesanic
Sly (who runs DeftonesArchive and is also part of the DeftonesLive team) had his own interview as well on Musically Meditated
https://open.spotify.com/episode/08w3XDzkP22SGNcwo80hu1?si=8G9L9QatTNW9_IZtp4O5XQ&fbclid=IwAR2KK0ph7UdS2QnOPX4m63wD_VEIzP5CjrZSVkF0t5d1FY_e6qn0jJJ0fDI
Thanks for the links, bro! Going to listen to them in a few!
New podcast interview
https://www.talkhouse.com/reggie-watts-talks-with-chino-moreno-deftones-on-the-talkhouse-podcast/?fbclid=IwAR2MBmmM4m0iPTueOS3uScAlBsTi3TZMyUpeS66_C8YdsINBjCi4sjq0lRY
Was this posted? It's an interview I found with a local Sacramento radio station and Abe C.
https://www.radio.com/music/rock/radio-com-live-check-in-with-deftones
https://www.stereogum.com/2107176/deftones-stephen-carpenter-is-a-flat-earther-anti-vaxxer-and-covid-truther/news/
so this is surprising... ???
disappointing to find out Stephen is a fucking idiot.
Stef has smoked himself retarded...
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 13, 2020, 05:20 AM
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;D ;D ;D bwahahaha! Well done, sir. Well done! *tips hat*
Quote from: sharinglungs on Nov 12, 2020, 11:16 PM
disappointing to find out Stephen is a fucking idiot.
Quote from: Draken on Nov 12, 2020, 11:34 PM
Stef has smoked himself retarded...
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 05, 2020, 10:51 PM
Not sure this one was posted, from a couple of weeks ago
https://omny.fm/shows/talkin-rock-with-meltdown/talkin-rock-with-chino-of-deftones-and-pat-simmons
Seems like Chino kind of avoided answering Sergios involvement in the song writing process in that interview which I would like to have heard more of.
Were these interviews with Sergio posted?
https://www.maniacsonline.com.au/news/interview-deftones-bassist-sergio-vega-209236
https://www.warnermusic.ie/uncategorized/2020/overdrive-feature-interview-deftones-in-a-lot-of-ways-it-kind-of-felt-that-we-were-coming-back-home-sergio-vega/
https://www.noecho.net/interviews/sergio-vega-deftones-quicksand-interview
Believing in nonsense conspiracy theories is a symptom of spending way too much time on the internet.
Stef addresses the story on that B-Real thing ( from 11:20 in )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbCMXShNRZU&feature=emb_title&ab_channel=BREALTV
Honestly? He can believe whatever he wants. At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter and doesn't change my fandom of his music.
As for what I believe: I look at the anti-vaxx opinions as a "your body, your choice" thing. He's wrong that vaccines have never done anything in history (uh, polio? lol) but if he doesn't want to take them, fine. No skin off my back.
The flat earth thing I just don't get. If the earth was flat, there would have to be huge edges of the earth where there was just no land anymore. Places where the earth would just stop. Where are those places? Flat earth really just feels like stoner banter type of shit to me, so no surprise it's coming from Stephen. Whatever.
Thanks for explaining :o i didnt know any of this!
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 13, 2020, 05:20 AM
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Dear Lord! That's just not fair LMFAO
Turns out that too much weed is actually bad for you.
Quote from: aj on Nov 15, 2020, 09:41 AM
Turns out that too much weed is actually bad for you.
Agreed, I don't agree with his "theories" at all
Stick to riffing and less science Stephen
Quote from: Inkblades on Nov 14, 2020, 11:27 PM
The flat earth thing I just don't get. If the earth was flat, there would have to be huge edges of the earth where there was just no land anymore. Places where the earth would just stop.
"We must be the first ones in the world to fall off of the earth" apperently chino is a flatearther too and has been for quite some time. These guys have been touring the world quite a lot, they know things we dont know
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 15, 2020, 02:25 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Nov 14, 2020, 11:27 PM
The flat earth thing I just don't get. If the earth was flat, there would have to be huge edges of the earth where there was just no land anymore. Places where the earth would just stop.
"We must be the first ones in the world to fall off of the earth" apperently chino is a flatearther too and has been for quite some time. These guys have been touring the world quite a lot, they know things we dont know
NAILED IT...
Quote from: from_musings on Nov 15, 2020, 02:25 PM
Quote from: Inkblades on Nov 14, 2020, 11:27 PM
The flat earth thing I just don't get. If the earth was flat, there would have to be huge edges of the earth where there was just no land anymore. Places where the earth would just stop.
OR.... Chino and the others or just Chino was making a joke against Stephen for it by writing those lyrics? ::) Who lnows
"We must be the first ones in the world to fall off of the earth" apperently chino is a flatearther too and has been for quite some time. These guys have been touring the world quite a lot, they know things we dont know
Quote from: Vesanic on Nov 13, 2020, 05:20 AM
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lmfao
A few of the Deftones Facebook groups I'm in have been infiltrated by Flat Earth believers who joined in the last 2 days (since the news broke).
It's really a shame that Steph could be so irresponsibly ignorant of some very basic scientific principles, particularly given his influence on some people.
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Nov 16, 2020, 02:30 PM
A few of the Deftones Facebook groups I'm in have been infiltrated by Flat Earth believers who joined in the last 2 days (since the news broke).
It's really a shame that Steph could be so irresponsibly ignorant of some very basic scientific principles, particularly given his influence on some people.
Thats their fault if they r influenced by "the Dogg" in any freaking way outside of guitar playing and smoking techniques ;D
Maynard interview about his small role in White Pony.
https://www.revolvermag.com/music/maynard-james-keenan-looks-back-deftones-white-pony-passenger-duet
Quote from: LG95 on Nov 24, 2020, 04:42 PM
Maynard interview about his small role in White Pony.
https://www.revolvermag.com/music/maynard-james-keenan-looks-back-deftones-white-pony-passenger-duet
"What I remember most about spending time with the Deftones on this album was the confused look on their faces when I mapped out a few things I wanted to try." -Maynard
;D LOL!
Quote from: LG95 on Nov 24, 2020, 04:42 PM
Maynard interview about his small role in White Pony.
https://www.revolvermag.com/music/maynard-james-keenan-looks-back-deftones-white-pony-passenger-duet
thank you
Thanks for that. Great interview.
"It hasn't been the same since your brother wasn't in the band"
-chino
Quote from: Vesanic on Jan 28, 2021, 07:33 AM
Chi's brother Ming did an interview recently where he talks, among other things, about Chi joining the band, the inception, and generally gives a great insight about the band. This interview was made to promote Chi's new poetry CD called "The Head Up Project"
https://youtu.be/iOAKgRktKw4
You can definitely tell that's his brother, he has the same grit and gravel in his voice when he talks. Makes me kind of emotional seeing his brother because you can tell there's a lot him there. I miss Chi a lot. :'(
jaysus
Shame on Jamey Jasta for even entertaining that shit.
And of course The PRP have picked it up now.
*whispers separate the art from the artist to himself over and over again while rocking in the fetal position*
he should already know it's impossible for earth to be flat, but man, just watch a few debunking flat earth videos Stef. i predict he'll come back eventually, it's so easily debunked
Steph absolutely kills me LOL
Looking for a print of the original "Awakening Cat" or screaming kitty without the Deftones logo. Hopefully something with high enough resolution to hang in my house. Anybody?
Quote from: NicKageB on Apr 26, 2021, 12:49 AM
Looking for a print of the original "Awakening Cat" or screaming kitty without the Deftones logo. Hopefully something with high enough resolution to hang in my house. Anybody?
https://fineartamerica.com/featured/yawning-kitten-c1960s-h-armstrong-roberts-and-classicstock.html
Thanks!
Awesome. I don't decorate or deviate, but I will get my hands on the screaming kitty
Interesting....to all that I ask, is he delaying the new album process?
https://www.facebook.com/metalsux/posts/pfbid035hHzmnWuLnWUgWwNAkGBhLk1QUXm88ZTp6EvRFuDAMt9RqNaPZoa9YoGYEt3Bbk9l
No, he just won't travel abroad now.
Quote from: RoyalDeftonicBoy on May 25, 2024, 02:06 AMInteresting....to all that I ask, is he delaying the new album process?
https://www.facebook.com/metalsux/posts/pfbid035hHzmnWuLnWUgWwNAkGBhLk1QUXm88ZTp6EvRFuDAMt9RqNaPZoa9YoGYEt3Bbk9l
How would he delay the new album process? They record in the US. Stef won't leave the US. That's all.
https://www.theprp.com/2024/07/21/news/deftones-guitarist-stephen-carpenter-speaks-on-how-his-anxiety-has-led-to-him-stepping-back-from-international-touring/#disqus_thread