Has anyone tried playing any of the new songs yet ? Ive tried Rocket Skates and Diamond Eyes and they sound like they should be in Bb ? but before I go out and re-set my guitar for the lower tuning I wanted a second opinion. I know Stefs using 7/8 string guitars and Im using a 6 so tunings for any of these would be helpful.
Yeah Steph tuned all the way back up for this album, but obviously now he has that 8th for the low heavy. Rocket Skates is in B.
i actually jus tried the other night, i don't know what tuning it was, it was a 6 string but i just tuned it down to match what i was hearing... pretty heavy.. i'd at least recommend a 7 string to get the same sound.
Idk What tunning they are in, but heres the New ESP Guitar Campaign
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/tmacie_2006/buzzsawVirinator608-Death.jpg)
Who Wouldnt want a new Buzzsaw-608DEATH?
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Quote from: deftones86 on Mar 26, 2010, 06:08 AM
Idk What tunning they are in, but heres the New ESP Guitar Campaign
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/tmacie_2006/buzzsawVirinator608-Death.jpg)
Who Wouldnt want a new Buzzsaw-608DEATH?
rofl
the album tuning is F# for 8 string
Quote from: deftones86 on Mar 26, 2010, 06:08 AM
Idk What tunning they are in, but heres the New ESP Guitar Campaign
Would you happen to have a bigger pic of Steph with a bunch of guitars?
This Is the original Size
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/tmacie_2006/Stephen_Carpenter_s_ESPs.jpg)
I dont even remember where i got this. Probablly google.
Ive googled before asking but failed to find anything...Thank you
Quote from: yeah on Mar 26, 2010, 09:01 AM
Ive googled before asking but failed to find anything...Thank you
no problem
stefs looking like a pimp with his bitches hahah
Quote from: Far away on Mar 26, 2010, 09:52 PM
stefs looking like a pimp with his bitches hahah
Yea he does sleep with all of them. haha
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/tmacie_2006/lookademhoes.jpg)
Quote from: deftones86 on Mar 26, 2010, 10:11 PM
Quote from: Far away on Mar 26, 2010, 09:52 PM
stefs looking like a pimp with his bitches hahah
Yea he does sleep with all of them. haha
(http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m163/tmacie_2006/lookademhoes.jpg)
Lol. That pic is awesome
Tuned Low to High: F#/B/E/A/D/G/B/E
String Gauges: 68/56/46/36/26/17/13/10
I'm currently trying to figure out his tuning for Royal. I believe it's back in A# (Self titled) but I'm not sure yet.
Hmm, I thought he had said that he tuned the two highest (pitch) strings the same, so BEADGBEE. But I can't remember the source - it was some sort of interview with him.
steph fuckin changes all the time, why fuck you think he haz 38 guitars. no loyalty is say!
Quote from: djzap on Mar 28, 2010, 02:02 AM
Hmm, I thought he had said that he tuned the two highest (pitch) strings the same, so BEADGBEE. But I can't remember the source - it was some sort of interview with him.
Stef uses two high E strings on his 7's for when he plays songs from before he switched from 6's to 7's.
Quote from: deftones86 on Mar 28, 2010, 05:47 AM
Quote from: djzap on Mar 28, 2010, 02:02 AM
Hmm, I thought he had said that he tuned the two highest (pitch) strings the same, so BEADGBEE. But I can't remember the source - it was some sort of interview with him.
Stef uses two high E strings on his 7's for when he plays songs from before he switched from 6's to 7's.
It's in this video that he mentions the
EE bit.. got it from Wes Borland - Private Gear Tour: Deftones' Stephen Carpenter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlolt-AWkDI#ws)
Yeah cause there's not enough fingers to hold off ringing out the note of the extra string. So it's best to tune it to the same as the above. Good thinking Steph!
I hate all these players who are all precise with their tunings.
And
Dj Zap that's his tuning for the
8 string, according to his signature model release.
huh i dont get it, why you'd "get the tuning of the 6-string, but the feel of the 7-string" with BEADGEE? you miss the high B. tuning of the 6-string wot?
Quote from: beaverwithfishyshoes on Mar 30, 2010, 02:24 AM
huh i dont get it, why you'd "get the tuning of the 6-string, but the feel of the 7-string" with BEADGEE? you miss the high B. tuning of the 6-string wot?
The Bottom 6 Strings are in E stantard tunning EADGBE And the 7th is an extra high E so it goes EADGBEE And for drop d DADGBEE and so on
Quote from: deftones86 on Mar 30, 2010, 08:11 PM
Quote from: beaverwithfishyshoes on Mar 30, 2010, 02:24 AM
huh i dont get it, why you'd "get the tuning of the 6-string, but the feel of the 7-string" with BEADGEE? you miss the high B. tuning of the 6-string wot?
The Bottom 6 Strings are in E stantard tunning EADGBE And the 7th is an extra high E so it goes EADGBEE And for drop d DADGBEE and so on
Aye, and when you want to ring out those EE strings.. you don't have the annoyance of one of them being tuned in 'B' and sounding awful because you don't have any extra palm or fingers to mute it, like you would on a six string.
would the high B ringing out always sound awful? you mean this in context of riffs like where he basically plays powerchords with these open string "above them".. think Royal or Risk contains these for example. sounds like more than just E.
Quote from: beaverwithfishyshoes on Apr 10, 2010, 03:39 AM
would the high B ringing out always sound awful? you mean this in context of riffs like where he basically plays powerchords with these open string "above them".. think Royal or Risk contains these for example. sounds like more than just E.
Not always. But riffs like Hexagram, When Girls Telephone Boys, Rapture, Rocket Skates, he always rings out the bottom two strings and bars what would be the 'B' string on the 7 string guitar, same with Fireal on the 6 string during the chorus riff. So if you imagine he tunes his 7 strings to C, C# etc. he's got that one extra string he can't bar like he usually would on the 6 string in those tunings. So that's why I presumed he's tuned two strings the same to save the hassle of trying to silence it during a chord :)
It's the same with Fireal
I have some kind of email contact with sol invicto, a side project of stef and we got to talk about stef playing his 8string model on F#, dunno if some drop stuff or standard though. just transpose ist. standard E can sound evil aswell if you use E as key. :P
Quote from: jaylawl on Apr 10, 2010, 10:11 PM
I have some kind of email contact with sol invicto, a side project of stef and we got to talk about stef playing his 8string model on F#, dunno if some drop stuff or standard though. just transpose ist. standard E can sound evil aswell if you use E as key. :P
If you get into contact again, ask him what tuning Royal is :) I believe it's Drop C, because it involves ringing out the F and C strings in that tuning. But during the verses ''Face to face..'' there's some strings/notes he's playing that are faint and I can't figure them out in Drop C.
Quote from: deftones86 on Mar 30, 2010, 08:11 PM
Quote from: beaverwithfishyshoes on Mar 30, 2010, 02:24 AM
huh i dont get it, why you'd "get the tuning of the 6-string, but the feel of the 7-string" with BEADGEE? you miss the high B. tuning of the 6-string wot?
The Bottom 6 Strings are in E stantard tunning EADGBE And the 7th is an extra high E so it goes EADGBEE And for drop d DADGBEE and so on
I've just read on Wikipedia that Steph tunes the high string EADGBD and the same with all the rest. But I'm not sure where that info is from, know anything about that? :)
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Quote from: Subliminal on Apr 10, 2010, 08:00 AM
Quote from: beaverwithfishyshoes on Apr 10, 2010, 03:39 AM
would the high B ringing out always sound awful? you mean this in context of riffs like where he basically plays powerchords with these open string "above them".. think Royal or Risk contains these for example. sounds like more than just E.
Not always. But riffs like Hexagram, When Girls Telephone Boys, Rapture, Rocket Skates, he always rings out the bottom two strings and bars what would be the 'B' string on the 7 string guitar, same with Fireal on the 6 string during the chorus riff. So if you imagine he tunes his 7 strings to C, C# etc. he's got that one extra string he can't bar like he usually would on the 6 string in those tunings. So that's why I presumed he's tuned two strings the same to save the hassle of trying to silence it during a chord :)
It's the same with Fireal
u mean bar as 'to mute'? and exactly why cant he mute the high B on a 7, while he can on a 6. depending on the particular chord/grip, he might be able to mute it id think. why would EE rather sound good. maybe BB would sound good sometimes instead of EE.
Quote from: Subliminal on Apr 10, 2010, 10:16 PM
If you get into contact again, ask him what tuning Royal is :) I believe it's Drop C, because it involves ringing out the F and C strings in that tuning. But during the verses ''Face to face..'' there's some strings/notes he's playing that are faint and I can't figure them out in Drop C.
your dropped C back to a D, it sounds kinda like
Gtr.1
123 123 123 123 123 123 123 123 123 123 123 123 123 123 123 123
D|---|555|---|555|---|555|---|555||---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
A|---|555|---|555|---|555|---|555||---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
F|---|666|---|666|---|666|---|666||---|0--|pm-|---|---|---|---|---|
C|7--(777)7--|---|7--(777)7--|---||8--|8--|5-5|-5-|5-5|-5-|5-5|-5-|
G|7--(777)7--|---|7--(777)7--|---||8--|---|5-5|-5-|5-5|-5-|5-5|-5-|
D|5--|---|5--|---|5--|---|5--|---||6--|---|3-3|-3-|3-3|-3-|3-3|-3-|
?|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---||---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
?|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---||---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Gtr.2
123 123 123 123 123 123 123 123 123 123 123 123 123 123 123 123
D|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---||---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
A|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---||---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
F|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---||---|0--|pm-|---|---|---|---|---|
C|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---||8--|8--|5-5|-5-|5-5|-5-|5-5|-5-|
G|---|--h|p--|--h|p--|--h|p--|--h||8--|---|5-5|-5-|5-5|-5-|5-5|-5-|
D|5--|557|5--|557|5--|557|5--|557||6--|---|3-3|-3-|3-3|-3-|3-3|-3-|
?|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---||---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
?|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---||---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|i wonder during the real chorus, his lowest chord is a G, is that around this height or an octave lower, so with the 7th and 8th string.
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