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Title: Myspace Update
Post by: DakkoN on Jun 23, 2009, 09:28 PM
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=769597&blogID=496493925

QuoteWhat's up!

We want to take a minute and address all of you regarding Chi and our new record:

First and foremost, we are all still praying and hoping for our brother's and bandmate's recovery.  He continues to get hospital care, but often it feels as if we're no closer to knowing what is ultimately going to happen to him as he continues to fight off infections as part of an ongoing battle with his condition.  We trust all of you have been following his progress at One Love For Chi; we have as well.   Whenever we have significant information regarding his condition, we will share it with all of you.  In the meantime, we're working on getting a benefit show together for Chi in Los Angeles this fall; details will follow very soon.

Let's all continue to channel positive energy into the universe for Chi's recovery.

There has been a lot of speculation lately about what is going on with the record: Eros for one, and Chi's parts, and this new record that we are currently tracking.

The songs recorded for Eros are very special to us as they are the latest with Chi (and we certainly hope not the last); they have history and significant meaning to us.  However, as we neared completion on Eros, we realized that this record doesn't best encompass and represent who we are currently as people and as musicians.  And although those songs will see the light of day at some point, we collectively made the decision that we needed to take a new approach, and with Chi's condition heavy on our minds while doing so.  We needed to return to the studio to do what we felt was right artistically.  Our inspiration and unity as a band is stronger than it has ever been before and we needed to channel that energy into our music, and deliver to our fans what you rightly deserve: the best Deftones record that we can make.

The decision to hold off on releasing Eros has no connection with Chi's condition or anything associated.  This was, and is, purely a creative decision by the band to write, record, and deliver an amazing product.  As a result we feel like this is the best record we've ever written.  And although Chi is not playing bass with us, his presence is dramatically felt in our hearts and on our minds everyday when we step into that studio, and you will feel it in the music.

We have some dates coming up this summer as you know, and the best thing that we can do now is to try to return this situation to the closest thing to normalcy as possible. The stage is our home, and you are our family.

Please remember, only Deftones speak for Deftones, so we will continue to periodically release official statements.

More to come soon.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: White Wrist on Jun 23, 2009, 09:35 PM
new album...weird.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: wither-I on Jun 23, 2009, 09:45 PM
theyre tracking it!
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: mss009 on Jun 23, 2009, 09:48 PM
Bummer.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: sharinglungs on Jun 23, 2009, 09:53 PM
2011 release.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: Slacker on Jun 23, 2009, 09:53 PM
fuck, it actually got cancelled.

for now at list, so  we can expect a new album...again.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: pixElsblUr on Jun 23, 2009, 09:59 PM
i quit
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: White Pwny on Jun 23, 2009, 10:01 PM
ugh.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: Timmy666 on Jun 23, 2009, 10:21 PM
Hi guys. I have loaded gun in my mouth  :)
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: defskull on Jun 23, 2009, 10:30 PM
Haha.  Do you guys remember that update from chino maybe a year or two ago that had the itinerary for Deftones and Team Sleep?  It was so well thought out such as not expecting new Team Sleep material until 2010 because before that would be spent on the new Deftones album then Deftones tour?  I guess that day is over.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: skinnypuppy on Jun 23, 2009, 10:43 PM
I don't approve of this at all and it sort of makes me ill to my stomache.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: kameron632 on Jun 23, 2009, 10:48 PM
Well this sucks in a way, a NEW album before the NEW album WTF!!!!!! Well atleast after this "new" album, EROS will sure to be out after it, hopefully.....Damn idk if i should be pissed or happy! Oh well lets just hope Chi gets better.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: Hidalgo on Jun 23, 2009, 11:22 PM
i'm ok with a new new album, but i really hope they mix & master the eros tracks they recorded with Chi, since they might be the last
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: theis on Jun 23, 2009, 11:24 PM
Quote from: pixElsblUr on Jun 23, 2009, 09:59 PM
i quit

Quote from: White Pwny on Jun 23, 2009, 10:01 PM
ugh.

Quote from: skinnypuppy on Jun 23, 2009, 10:43 PM
I don't approve of this at all and it sort of makes me ill to my stomache.

Yeah.

This is sickening. I don't even have words...
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: pixElsblUr on Jun 23, 2009, 11:27 PM
Quote from: penguin in the desert on Jun 23, 2009, 11:24 PM
Quote from: pixElsblUr on Jun 23, 2009, 09:59 PM
i quit

Quote from: White Pwny on Jun 23, 2009, 10:01 PM
ugh.

Quote from: skinnypuppy on Jun 23, 2009, 10:43 PM
I don't approve of this at all and it sort of makes me ill to my stomache.

Yeah.

This is sickening. I don't even have words...

no worries, use ours ;)
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: skinnypuppy on Jun 23, 2009, 11:35 PM
It actually hurts me to read these updates. Whoever is writing them is making it seem as if they just don't care about the situation at hand, and that the music being created WITHOUT CHI is the BEST SHIT EVER. We've all grown up with the band and seem to care more about Chi's well being than the actual band does. Of course, I haven't talked to any of the band members. I can't read their minds. But this is sickening. When I saw Deftones at Bamboozle, I was in tears through half the set... This band has gotten me through some of the hardest times of my life, and Chi not being on stage was emotionally difficult for me.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: wither-I on Jun 23, 2009, 11:41 PM
am i the only one who is not sooo perturbed over this... i mean, what else can they do??
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: skinnypuppy on Jun 23, 2009, 11:55 PM
Quote from: wither-I on Jun 23, 2009, 11:41 PM
am i the only one who is not sooo perturbed over this... i mean, what else can they do??

Word it differently.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: Starz on Jun 23, 2009, 11:55 PM
They aren't gonna sit on their arses all day waiting for Chi to wake up. The situation is bad, we all know it's bad it's fucked but Chi wouldn't want the band just sitting around wasting their dollar on online poker. So they are writing an album with the Quicksand guy and will probably release that next year. And when Chi is all better again they will release the album where Chi is playing bass. Sounds ok to me. All you cunts are just too hard to please. Give up being a Deftones fan if it pisses you off that much...
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: Derek79 on Jun 24, 2009, 12:02 AM
I really hope they're not ditching the Chi version to cut him or his family out of his share of the profits... They should at least release those tracks to try and generate some income for his family. 
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: Hell_Tanner on Jun 24, 2009, 12:20 AM
Well, good thing they're at last stepping forward in adressing Chi's condition and making something relevant: a benefit concert. It took some time but it finally came, more power to 'em!

About the album: this is highly awkward and sometimes bizzarely worded...I don't think I'm that interested in an album without Chi, I watched some Bamboozie videos last night and frankly, it screams: "something/one is missing...big time!" Vega don't cut it for me sorry.
But then again, it might be the best decision for them...I don't know.

Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: fliesinajar on Jun 24, 2009, 12:37 AM
The unreasonable discontentment and anger on this board clearly shows ignorance and a lack of compassion for the Deftones. I am certain their decision was made with full regard to the current situation and I support their actions. Please, reconsider your irrational selfishness before you post an unnecessary response.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: defTHE1s on Jun 24, 2009, 12:46 AM
Quote from: Timmy666 on Jun 23, 2009, 10:21 PM
Hi guys. I have loaded gun in my mouth  :)
I though rock_n_frost would be the first doing it  :D
but maybe he is dead now  ;D ;D ;D


but back to topic........................
i feel ... mixed emotions.... so, there will be new new album, scheduled for god-knows when... eros was supposed to october? or is this new new album the one that will be on october?
And about Chi... they've said that "canceling at the moment" Eros is nothing to see wit Chi's condition, so, they should release ... shit.... no words coming to mind...
let's think positive, and hope Chi's recovering ASAP, yeah, they are doing well in keeping busy, not sitting until Chi wakes, but they should release this album, wether Chi is awake or not.....



what the *ยจ***+....

:)

let's load my gun too  :-\  :'(
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: defTHE1s on Jun 24, 2009, 12:49 AM
no.. wait... *throws loaded gun away*

i can wait for Chi awakening while Muse and Rammstein and some other bands release their new material this fall!
;D ;D
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: defskull on Jun 24, 2009, 01:01 AM
I find it odd that this is the first album where they essentially finished it, yet then decided to scrap it.  The update says it wasn't Chi related, but really?  Are the bass parts too hard for this new guy to do?  Or could the lyrics be seen as unintentionally disrespectful to Chi now that he's in this condition?  Or are they looking further ahead where a Chi-less Deftones band is a possibility and want to start getting used to a writing environment with the new guy?

I know we may seem selfish as fans, but we have hardly heard anything from the band since the accident.  I believe they owed it to their fans earlier than this to let them know how they felt about everything.  If we had more updates then maybe we could see how the band got to this decision.  Instead we get an update once every 8 months.  Maybe they're taking it very hard?  I mean at this point it's not so much about the album but just rather how they have kept the fans updated with Chi.  Yeah there is oneloveforchi which is great but it's not the band helped out with that.  And if they did, we have no idea about their involvement.  I'm typically okay with Deftones lack of updates when it comes to their music.  I don't mind.  But I feel like when it comes to something much more serious with Chi and the future of Deftones up in the air, I think the decision process should be more public. 
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: Deftones-argentina on Jun 24, 2009, 02:05 AM
Guys, I think you're missing the point here...They are indirectly saying that Eros kinda was not up to their standarts. If you are not proud with the art you came up with, then why release it? I think chi would agree with this too.
I don't think that EVERY eros song will be scrapped, my guess is that 3 or 4 tracks will make into the new record under a revised version. And I don't really think they will release any eros track that won't be on the new record after the new record(FYIHYD, Buffalo, "will also see the light of day", remember?). Deftones's Songs from the blackhole.

By the way, I wish they had done something to help chi sooner...I can understand how hard this situation is though.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: sharinglungs on Jun 24, 2009, 02:09 AM
All I see in here are a bunch of whiny babies who aren't getting what they want so they bitch about it.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: feedthegod on Jun 24, 2009, 02:55 AM
You know what this tells me? The album must have sucked. We've only heard the one song, but it didn't even sound that great (like RatsRatsRats 2) and just wasn't impressive. So now I believe this is a clear indication that Eros probably just wasn't that good.

I find it really odd that they would pull the album and not release it. Why can't they release it now for the summer and then try to release another album in the fall? Not to mention how much money is this costing Chi and his family to not have the new album. I'm going to assume that Vega will receive the proceeds of sales of the new album and tour...while chi sits in a coma getting nothing. That is VERY shitty to me.

Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: Deftones86 on Jun 24, 2009, 04:09 AM
i seriously doubt chi will get nothing ,maybe nothing from the label but do you really think they will let chi just sit there and die because he has no money? really if deftones are that bad of people then i dont want there music...but i know better...get well chi and good luck deftones
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: sharinglungs on Jun 24, 2009, 04:56 AM
Quote from: feedthegod on Jun 24, 2009, 02:55 AM
You know what this tells me? The album must have sucked. We've only heard the one song, but it didn't even sound that great (like RatsRatsRats 2) and just wasn't impressive. So now I believe this is a clear indication that Eros probably just wasn't that good.

I find it really odd that they would pull the album and not release it. Why can't they release it now for the summer and then try to release another album in the fall? Not to mention how much money is this costing Chi and his family to not have the new album. I'm going to assume that Vega will receive the proceeds of sales of the new album and tour...while chi sits in a coma getting nothing. That is VERY shitty to me.



If you have a job, and dont go to work for  a whole week straight... do you get paid for that week? No. so fuck off with the "this sucks that Chi gets no money" thing.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: Inkblades on Jun 24, 2009, 05:28 AM
They wrote an album with Vega that quickly? From his twitter today:

http://twitpic.com/88a3s

As for not releasing Eros, I'm not really sure how I feel. I don't exactly understand why, but I will respect their decision. Here's one thing I do know though: Trust that my mindstate will never be "Fuck Deftones."
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: mr.sinister on Jun 24, 2009, 05:30 AM
Fucking. Deftones.

Although I am initially upset about this whole decision that the band has made to basically hide away Eros, and write a new album with some fill-in (no offense to Sergio) I do understand were they are coming from. Its their music they can do as they please. Like they have said it so pretentiously and selfishly in the past; "we do music for ourselves".

But one thing I just do not understand is why hype the shit out of Eros saying its gonna be their tightest record because of their relationship as friends is at the strongest point of their career and then proclaim "we realized that this record doesn't best encompass and represent who we are currently as people and as musicians".

But maybe with Chi temporarily out of the game for the time being,  Deftones will be able to utilize this adversity as an influence to deliver a strong piece of musical art.

QuoteAnd although those songs will see the light of day at some point

I hope so.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: samson simpson on Jun 24, 2009, 06:03 AM
GOTDAMN !

this is sad how some of you people are expressing your displeasure over this current situation...

im sure they are looking out for their friend like any decent human being would with someone they care about

alot of this " they should do this "  and  " they should do that .."    its fucking stupid


get laid
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: shine down unshy on Jun 24, 2009, 06:33 AM
Quote from: Cool Mountaineer on Jun 24, 2009, 06:03 AM
GOTDAMN !

this is sad how some of you people are expressing your displeasure over this current situation...

im sure they are looking out for their friend like any decent human being would with someone they care about

alot of this " they should do this "  and  " they should do that .."    its fucking stupid


get laid


Trufax
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: samson simpson on Jun 24, 2009, 08:04 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 24, 2009, 07:56 AM...
(http://www.tarzansite.hu/images/foto/11234.jpg)

listen to this every now and then
youll be ok
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: samson simpson on Jun 24, 2009, 08:10 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 24, 2009, 08:07 AM...
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9qSzkDc-Zs0/SUhWnJLfrlI/AAAAAAAAAbc/ORO-uyqltkQ/s400/jim_carey.jpg)
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: samson simpson on Jun 24, 2009, 08:20 AM
the trees that are slow to grow bear the best fruit
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: White Wrist on Jun 24, 2009, 09:09 AM
http://twitpic.com/2uijn
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: Urantia23 on Jun 24, 2009, 01:34 PM
Quote from: pixElsblUr on Jun 23, 2009, 09:59 PM
i quit

I agree

Personally I'm disappointed  :(
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: 333tone on Jun 24, 2009, 03:45 PM
Well, I'm kinda lost for words. I never thought of them as some perfectionists who would work on a record for such a long time.It's weird that they will use as B-sides material that was meant to be released as a full length record. I have to admit though, that this is their work and they have the right to manage it any way they can. Also, it's funny that they mentioned this is their best record. I think they said that for S/T and SNW too :)
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: White Wrist on Jun 24, 2009, 04:54 PM
and WP...
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: Penicks on Jun 24, 2009, 05:37 PM
god damn it, just release the fucking album

don't overdo the amount of work you put into it please

they didn't wtih self-titled

and look at what a god damned dream of an album that turned out to be

the fans need some new material, especially after all this time of teasing

i personally don't care what it sounds like

i want a new deftones record.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: Cod on Jun 24, 2009, 06:12 PM
Quote from: Starz on Jun 23, 2009, 11:55 PM
They aren't gonna sit on their arses all day waiting for Chi to wake up. The situation is bad, we all know it's bad it's fucked but Chi wouldn't want the band just sitting around wasting their dollar on online poker. So they are writing an album with the Quicksand guy and will probably release that next year. And when Chi is all better again they will release the album where Chi is playing bass. Sounds ok to me. All you cunts are just too hard to please. Give up being a Deftones fan if it pisses you off that much...

Agreed.

More power to the Deftones. If they feel this is historic (Eros) and they want to wait for the perfect moment to release it, I'm fine with that. That really means more Deftones music in the future. It's a bit tiresome to sit and wait especially knowing Eros could have been released, but hey, we've been waiting for a while anyway.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: Penicks on Jun 24, 2009, 06:17 PM
YEAH, WHY NOT LET US WAIT A BIT LONGER IN EXCRUCIATING AGONY, THAT'LL DO US GOOD  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: Mikey on Jun 24, 2009, 06:47 PM
shit sux, but i gotta respect thier decision...
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: pixElsblUr on Jun 24, 2009, 08:15 PM
I ahmm... uhh, ...nevermind
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: There Will Be Blood on Jun 24, 2009, 08:32 PM
 i trust in them to make the best decisions. like i said before i wasn't to crazy for melanie.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: TheRealist on Jun 24, 2009, 10:09 PM
They are free to do with their work. All that I beg of them is to update a little bit more on their blogs.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: pixElsblUr on Jun 24, 2009, 11:00 PM
Quote from: TheRealist on Jun 24, 2009, 10:09 PM
They are free to do with their work. All that I beg of them is to update a little bit more on their blogs.

dude, chino is a mad twiterrer
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: wither-I on Jun 24, 2009, 11:24 PM
start a chino twitter thread. im not a member, and refuse to be. i wont let the bots take control
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: Cod on Jun 25, 2009, 03:24 AM
Quote from: Penicks on Jun 24, 2009, 06:17 PM
YEAH, WHY NOT LET US WAIT A BIT LONGER IN EXCRUCIATING AGONY, THAT'LL DO US GOOD  :D :D :D :D

It's all out of due respect. Why release music that was written with Chi if he is not there to play/receive credit for Eros? It's going to come out sometime.
They want to make the best Deftones record they can. I say bring it on can't wait to hear the new new record and to see them live later this summer.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: pixElsblUr on Jun 25, 2009, 03:11 PM
I am eager to hear some new shit
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: defTHE1s on Jun 26, 2009, 12:52 AM
Quote from: defskull on Jun 24, 2009, 01:01 AM
Are the bass parts too hard for this new guy to do?
maybe......

Quote from: Cod on Jun 25, 2009, 03:24 AM
Why release music that was written with Chi if he is not there to play/receive credit for Eros? It's going to come out sometime.
They want to make the best Deftones record they can. I say bring it on can't wait to hear the new new record and to see them live later this summer.
wise words Cod... we will for sure hear new stuff this summer!
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: lithium on Jun 26, 2009, 01:02 AM
Quote from: wither-I on Jun 24, 2009, 11:24 PM
start a chino twitter thread. im not a member, and refuse to be. i wont let the bots take control
he's always tweets blip.fm  (http://blip.fm)links to songs, follow him there  (http://blip.fm/chinowong)if you don't want to join twitter
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: wither-I on Jun 26, 2009, 02:52 AM
Quote from: lithium on Jun 26, 2009, 01:02 AM
Quote from: wither-I on Jun 24, 2009, 11:24 PM
start a chino twitter thread. im not a member, and refuse to be. i wont let the bots take control
he's always tweets blip.fm  (http://blip.fm)links to songs, follow him there  (http://blip.fm/chinowong)if you don't want to join twitter
i will find chino. i will do what he does. wear what he wears. grow his goat, and pull my socks to my knees... whatever brings me ever closer to him
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: lithium on Jun 26, 2009, 03:21 AM
Quote from: wither-I on Jun 26, 2009, 02:52 AM
Quote from: lithium on Jun 26, 2009, 01:02 AM
Quote from: wither-I on Jun 24, 2009, 11:24 PM
start a chino twitter thread. im not a member, and refuse to be. i wont let the bots take control
he's always tweets blip.fm  (http://blip.fm)links to songs, follow him there  (http://blip.fm/chinowong)if you don't want to join twitter
i will find chino. i will do what he does. wear what he wears. grow his goat, and pull my socks to my knees... whatever brings me ever closer to him
sounds like a plan
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: Timmy666 on Jun 26, 2009, 03:31 AM
Quote from: wither-I on Jun 26, 2009, 02:52 AM
Quote from: lithium on Jun 26, 2009, 01:02 AM
Quote from: wither-I on Jun 24, 2009, 11:24 PM
start a chino twitter thread. im not a member, and refuse to be. i wont let the bots take control
he's always tweets blip.fm  (http://blip.fm)links to songs, follow him there  (http://blip.fm/chinowong)if you don't want to join twitter
i will find chino. i will do what he does. wear what he wears. grow his goat, and pull my socks to my knees... whatever brings me ever closer to him

I remember that phase...high school...
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: feedthegod on Jun 27, 2009, 12:57 AM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Jun 24, 2009, 04:56 AM
Quote from: feedthegod on Jun 24, 2009, 02:55 AM
You know what this tells me? The album must have sucked. We've only heard the one song, but it didn't even sound that great (like RatsRatsRats 2) and just wasn't impressive. So now I believe this is a clear indication that Eros probably just wasn't that good.

I find it really odd that they would pull the album and not release it. Why can't they release it now for the summer and then try to release another album in the fall? Not to mention how much money is this costing Chi and his family to not have the new album. I'm going to assume that Vega will receive the proceeds of sales of the new album and tour...while chi sits in a coma getting nothing. That is VERY shitty to me.



If you have a job, and dont go to work for  a whole week straight... do you get paid for that week? No. so fuck off with the "this sucks that Chi gets no money" thing.

No idiot, he recorded an entire album that the band decided not to release while he's in a coma. That means he doesn't get any money from sales of the album, because THEY chose not to release it. He put in his work time, writing and recording...and now it's not being released. How is that his fault?

You're a fucking idiot and showing it. I get paid if I work for a week and then get sick, regardless.

Now run along little child.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: wither-I on Jun 27, 2009, 01:21 AM
fight fight fight
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: sharinglungs on Jun 27, 2009, 01:47 AM
Quote from: feedthegod on Jun 27, 2009, 12:57 AM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Jun 24, 2009, 04:56 AM
Quote from: feedthegod on Jun 24, 2009, 02:55 AM
You know what this tells me? The album must have sucked. We've only heard the one song, but it didn't even sound that great (like RatsRatsRats 2) and just wasn't impressive. So now I believe this is a clear indication that Eros probably just wasn't that good.

I find it really odd that they would pull the album and not release it. Why can't they release it now for the summer and then try to release another album in the fall? Not to mention how much money is this costing Chi and his family to not have the new album. I'm going to assume that Vega will receive the proceeds of sales of the new album and tour...while chi sits in a coma getting nothing. That is VERY shitty to me.



If you have a job, and dont go to work for  a whole week straight... do you get paid for that week? No. so fuck off with the "this sucks that Chi gets no money" thing.

No idiot, he recorded an entire album that the band decided not to release while he's in a coma. That means he doesn't get any money from sales of the album, because THEY chose not to release it. He put in his work time, writing and recording...and now it's not being released. How is that his fault?

You're a fucking idiot and showing it. I get paid if I work for a week and then get sick, regardless.

Now run along little child.

I'm guessing this one went over your head and under your feet.

If you're an artist, and you don't sell your work.. guess what.. you don't get paid.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: Bergerac on Jun 27, 2009, 05:07 AM
Ok, so say they release a 'different' album before Eros:

1) Are they releasing as 'Deftones', because holding back Eros sounds like the different shit isnt to be considered a Deftones album, to me. In which case, is it going to be 'Chino/Stef/Frank/Abe with guest'?

2) What the fuck are you going to do when Eros is released afterwards, and is worse, even with a rework? See, I can see them wanting to record something a bit different now, almost like a side project, so that they aren't treading on Deftones/Chi, and yet Deftones' stock ain't looking so great after SNW. So if Eros is anything like the last album, I wouldn't be surprised if some new different music made Eros seem wank.

See, here's the thing: I don't trust the Deftones. They basicallly farted out their better albums, and when they start to overthink shit, it starts to go wrong. They most recently they took fucking years to make SNW. Yeah, precisely.

How do I put it? I don't trust their quality assessment. What they've recorded so far on Eros could very well be amazing. Then again, it could also be a direct progression from SNW's material, in which case I hope they get as far away from it as possible Still, as far as I'm concered, the band throwing material away and then focusing on different shit isn't necessarily the greatest idea: look what happened with the Ezrin demos, shit like Buffalo, stuff that was closer to S/T gone prog... and the final record that came to be. They threw great shit away in favour of crap, and I can't help but get the feeling that the band knew that SNW wasn't so hot in hindsight, but not WHY it wasn't.

I have absolutely no problem with them delaying the album or scrapping it entirely (whether for Chi or creativity's sake). I just don't want another one that's as bad as SNW, otherwise I'm gone. Given that the band's aspirations on the last album were to mix in Team Sleep, dilute their lyrics and song writing ability, put synths over EVERYTHING. up their accessibility, start doing instrumentals and try to sound like fucking Mogwai, things aren't smelling so rosy anymore. They can take as long as they want to. I don't care how long it's been. I don't want to be back here complaining like I did with the last album. That wouldn't be worth the wait.

Deftones, get off your arses, and travel back in time to 2004, please. Anything else is just going to disappoint me.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: wither-I on Jun 27, 2009, 05:16 AM
snw would have been good. but it was drastically overproduced. and ive said it o so annoyingly before, but ill say it again, -the ezrin demos would have been sooooooooo awesome if "fulfilled"
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: feedthegod on Jun 27, 2009, 03:32 PM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Jun 27, 2009, 01:47 AM
Quote from: feedthegod on Jun 27, 2009, 12:57 AM
Quote from: sharinglungs on Jun 24, 2009, 04:56 AM
Quote from: feedthegod on Jun 24, 2009, 02:55 AM
You know what this tells me? The album must have sucked. We've only heard the one song, but it didn't even sound that great (like RatsRatsRats 2) and just wasn't impressive. So now I believe this is a clear indication that Eros probably just wasn't that good.

I find it really odd that they would pull the album and not release it. Why can't they release it now for the summer and then try to release another album in the fall? Not to mention how much money is this costing Chi and his family to not have the new album. I'm going to assume that Vega will receive the proceeds of sales of the new album and tour...while chi sits in a coma getting nothing. That is VERY shitty to me.



If you have a job, and dont go to work for  a whole week straight... do you get paid for that week? No. so fuck off with the "this sucks that Chi gets no money" thing.

No idiot, he recorded an entire album that the band decided not to release while he's in a coma. That means he doesn't get any money from sales of the album, because THEY chose not to release it. He put in his work time, writing and recording...and now it's not being released. How is that his fault?

You're a fucking idiot and showing it. I get paid if I work for a week and then get sick, regardless.

Now run along little child.

I'm guessing this one went over your head and under your feet.

If you're an artist, and you don't sell your work.. guess what.. you don't get paid.

Wrong again. He's an artist in the sense of the word "artist" (i.e. see talent), but he's not an artist in the fact that his work isn't known if it will sell or not. He's under a CONTRACT with the record company who pays for their services, regardless. He's not putting his art up in a gallery and just hoping. The band is under contract to produce so many albums throughout the duration of their contract. The problem here is the band will meet that quota, but they are shelving the album he plays on. So he has no choice in the matter and is not involved in the new album. He's not going to make the profits from the sell of the album and the resulting tour, because the band decided to move on without him after only 7-8 months. They should have released a 2-disc album, or released an album in the summer and then the fall. It's screwing the fans over who've been waiting for this album for 2 years and it's screwing Chi over because he will not see any profit from the album sales.

So, you're wrong. He should get paid for the work he did. Not to mention the fact that they are a platinum and gold selling band, so it's a known fact the album will sell and the reasonable expectation is there will be money made from those sales. So he worked for many months for basically nothing. He's not getting paid for his work.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: rock_n_frost on Jun 27, 2009, 06:41 PM
Quote from: wither-I on Jun 27, 2009, 05:16 AM
snw would have been good. but it was drastically overproduced. and ive said it o so annoyingly before, but ill say it again, -the ezrin demos would have been sooooooooo awesome if "fulfilled"

you know you re right
you know you re right

you know youareerrriiiiiiight
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: Jesus2Chino on Jun 27, 2009, 07:29 PM
Quote from: Bergerac on Jun 27, 2009, 05:07 AM
Ok, so say they release a 'different' album before Eros:

1) Are they releasing as 'Deftones', because holding back Eros sounds like the different shit isnt to be considered a Deftones album, to me. In which case, is it going to be 'Chino/Stef/Frank/Abe with guest'?

2) What the fuck are you going to do when Eros is released afterwards, and is worse, even with a rework? See, I can see them wanting to record something a bit different now, almost like a side project, so that they aren't treading on Deftones/Chi, and yet Deftones' stock ain't looking so great after SNW. So if Eros is anything like the last album, I wouldn't be surprised if some new different music made Eros seem wank.

See, here's the thing: I don't trust the Deftones. They basicallly farted out their better albums, and when they start to overthink shit, it starts to go wrong. They most recently they took fucking years to make SNW. Yeah, precisely.

How do I put it? I don't trust their quality assessment. What they've recorded so far on Eros could very well be amazing. Then again, it could also be a direct progression from SNW's material, in which case I hope they get as far away from it as possible Still, as far as I'm concered, the band throwing material away and then focusing on different shit isn't necessarily the greatest idea: look what happened with the Ezrin demos, shit like Buffalo, stuff that was closer to S/T gone prog... and the final record that came to be. They threw great shit away in favour of crap, and I can't help but get the feeling that the band knew that SNW wasn't so hot in hindsight, but not WHY it wasn't.

I have absolutely no problem with them delaying the album or scrapping it entirely (whether for Chi or creativity's sake). I just don't want another one that's as bad as SNW, otherwise I'm gone. Given that the band's aspirations on the last album were to mix in Team Sleep, dilute their lyrics and song writing ability, put synths over EVERYTHING. up their accessibility, start doing instrumentals and try to sound like fucking Mogwai, things aren't smelling so rosy anymore. They can take as long as they want to. I don't care how long it's been. I don't want to be back here complaining like I did with the last album. That wouldn't be worth the wait.

Deftones, get off your arses, and travel back in time to 2004, please. Anything else is just going to disappoint me.

The Deftones will mourn your loss, lol. Don't be dramatic, if you don't like their upcoming album, and they release a badass record after that, you're going to buy it, or at least listen to it. They'll make the record they want to make. They're obviously conscious of how they sound, so they're doing what they want to do, and that's that.

*edit* This sounds more abrasive than it should, lol, I'm not trying to pick a fight in any way.

Much respect,
-Matt
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: jbmp1390 on Jun 28, 2009, 12:05 AM
Chi is still in a coma and might never recover from his injuries, and all you people want to do is bitch about the album not coming out yet. Nice...
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: rock_n_frost on Jun 28, 2009, 08:24 AM
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 27, 2009, 01:41 AM...
i really would like to read but
that bitches wrote so much !
i dont like reading !!
if i were read at high school i probably would gratuated from  medical school

whatever
another love is about to begin, ha
in europe big loves start with big fights you know
but that bitches are from usa, fight is like being orgazm to them :)
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: Sugartolove on Jun 28, 2009, 04:47 PM
Hmmm.. I wonder what the setlists for the concerts I'm going to in August will be ... Just old music? From Eros? From new unknown album? Knowing the Deftones time multiplyer; If they have started writing the  new material recently... The new album will be out in 3 years. So what material are they actually touring then, -- if not Eros...!?

Besides that: One love for Chi ... It's going to be weird seeing DT with no Chi on Chino's left... Get better soon, Chi.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: Jesus2Chino on Jun 28, 2009, 06:00 PM
Quote from: jbmp1390 on Jun 28, 2009, 12:05 AM
Chi is still in a coma and might never recover from his injuries, and all you people want to do is bitch about the album not coming out yet. Nice...

Many people have expressed a distaste for the Deftones continuing on without Chi, and how much it makes them feel sick to think about the 'Tones without him. I have Chi in my mind every day, every day, and I'm sure it's the same with a lot of people on this board. But that being said, another topic brought up in the update is them recording another album and pushing back Eros. It's not healthy to not allow people to talk about anything else but Chi's condition. If the push back of Eros, which arguably could have happened even despite of the recent tragic events involving Chi, makes people upset, I don't think it's wrong to discuss it here. Would it be wrong to discuss it in Chi's thread? Yes. But not here, it's relevant to the update.

Much respect,
-Matt
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: rock_n_frost on Jun 28, 2009, 07:36 PM
man i like the way you say '' - matt, much respect''

you are the most human person in this board !
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: jesusinabowlofdirt on Jun 28, 2009, 07:46 PM
cant say the same about you. sometimes when i read yr posts..  i wonder if yr an alien from outer space
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: rock_n_frost on Jun 28, 2009, 07:54 PM
im a genius...screw you...

btw what happened your crazy devil cats avatar
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: jesusinabowlofdirt on Jun 28, 2009, 07:57 PM
they needed to calm down,so they got an injection of demerol. they all died
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: rock_n_frost on Jun 28, 2009, 07:58 PM
and what the hell is this new one ?
is it button ?
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: jesusinabowlofdirt on Jun 28, 2009, 08:02 PM
i dont want to ruin the mystery.  why is yr genius so angry? if he is a genius he should be smart enough to know life is too short for being angry
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: rock_n_frost on Jun 28, 2009, 10:45 PM
he is hanamichi...he is genius like me

50 girls dumped him in 1 year
here ;
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Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: Law on Jun 28, 2009, 10:47 PM
Eros probably won't be ever released as a normal album, just as some b sides, I guess they just don't like it anymore. Anyway I would just like some new stuff, and I know people say "how can you say that when Chi is so ill", I appreciate that but to be fair, we've still gotta get on with our stuff, and seeing how they are continuing, they need to put some stuff out for us.

Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: defTHE1s on Jun 30, 2009, 12:18 AM
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Jun 28, 2009, 10:45 PM
he is hanamichi...he is genius like me

50 girls dumped him in 1 year
here ;
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How the heck you have such a big avatar and I couldn't use a fucking 144 x 150 pixels avatar??
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: defTHE1s on Jun 30, 2009, 10:47 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 30, 2009, 01:35 AM...
oh... yeah, sure, sure.... i got it....

but... you also have a wallpaper-size av!!!
goddammit! and you're not a genius like rock_n_frost!!
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: rock_n_frost on Jun 30, 2009, 11:09 PM
Quote from: defTHE1s on Jun 30, 2009, 10:47 PM
Quote from: Vesanic on Jun 30, 2009, 01:35 AM...
oh... yeah, sure, sure.... i got it....

but... you also have a wallpaper-size av!!!
goddammit! and you're not a genius like rock_n_frost!!

he is member of SL almost 1 year and he just understand how avatar and sign things works

be patient theis.....you ll understand the mystry  (my english still sucks, isnt it)
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: rock_n_frost on Jun 30, 2009, 11:21 PM
11 months !!..sure its   ;D

you my little french bitch :)
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: pixElsblUr on Jul 01, 2009, 01:00 PM
getting all racial in this bitch... you french turkish clowns
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: rock_n_frost on Jul 01, 2009, 01:52 PM
seriously where r u from dude
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: Penicks on Jul 01, 2009, 02:58 PM
he is from the shittiest country in the world. it's barely bigger than a pixel but yet it has 3 governments, 3 languages and only comes in the news when a girl got 56 stars tattooed on her face when she wanted just 3
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: rock_n_frost on Jul 01, 2009, 03:03 PM
Quote from: Penicks on Jul 01, 2009, 02:58 PM
he is from the shittiest country in the world. it's barely bigger than a pixel but yet it has 3 governments, 3 languages and only comes in the news when a girl got 56 stars tattooed on her face when she wanted just 3

hahahaa

and my guess is neverland
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: nineteenpeoplesnames on Jul 01, 2009, 08:14 PM
Is it Belgium or something? I heard about that tattoo story
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: rock_n_frost on Jul 01, 2009, 10:00 PM
all i know about belgium is they had a good football team someday....
also i know your flag
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: defTHE1s on Jul 01, 2009, 11:04 PM
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Jul 01, 2009, 10:00 PM
all i know about belgium is they had a good football team someday....
also i know your flag
but you're a genius, don't you know everything?

also you named me "theis" :
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Jun 30, 2009, 11:09 PM
be patient theis.....you ll understand the mystry  (my english still sucks, isnt it)

and your english and mine still sucks  ;D



and i wanna know the mystery!
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: Penicks on Jul 02, 2009, 12:00 AM
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Jul 01, 2009, 10:00 PM
all i know about belgium is they had a good football team someday....

Yeah dude. Twenty fucking years ago. Do you know the keeper of that football team now has his own reality show for about half a decade now?  That's how great Belgium is.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: rock_n_frost on Jul 02, 2009, 12:13 AM
Quote from: Penicks on Jul 02, 2009, 12:00 AM
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Jul 01, 2009, 10:00 PM
all i know about belgium is they had a good football team someday....

Yeah dude. Twenty fucking years ago. Do you know the keeper of that football team now has his own reality show for about half a decade now?  That's how great Belgium is.

hahaha i love you penicks (dude, your username is dangerous, what if i missed some letters and people call me a fag)

Quote from: defTHE1s on Jul 01, 2009, 11:04 PM
but you're a genius, don't you know everything?

aaaaw okay im genius but on lying to girls... i lied...whatever....even elfen lied


also you named me "theis"
def THE1S...i just made it up :)

Quote from: rock_n_frost on Jun 30, 2009, 11:09 PM
you ll understand the mystry 


and i wanna know the mystery!

okay its about mirroring  you should find direct links and copy the link, mostly prefer gif cuz its less kb

actually which avatar you cant add, can i see ?
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: pissedandpierced on Jul 02, 2009, 08:33 AM
They have good beer in Belgium and cheap tobacco.
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: rock_n_frost on Jul 02, 2009, 07:49 PM
Quote from: pissedandpierced on Jul 02, 2009, 08:33 AM
They have good beer in Belgium and cheap tobacco.

i love cheap countries...
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: defTHE1s on Jul 02, 2009, 11:37 PM
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Jul 02, 2009, 12:13 AM
okay its about mirroring  you should find direct links and copy the link, mostly prefer gif cuz its less kb
actually which avatar you cant add, can i see ?
tyhis: (http://mx.geocities.com/crenshaw_punch/pics/Rt.gif)
wich is 144 x 150 pxls
it's bigger than the one i use now, wich i had to make smaller..
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: Timmy666 on Jul 03, 2009, 02:19 AM
Poop
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: Nebontha on Jul 07, 2009, 12:40 AM
QuotePoop
Perfect word for describing what this thread has gone to...
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: pixElsblUr on Jul 07, 2009, 12:48 PM
I know, such a lack of attention span, can't even focus on the topic of threads anymore
Title: Re: Myspace Update
Post by: stoneFeD on Jul 21, 2009, 03:51 AM
caca