I have it. Who wants it?
you dirty ass hole with your jokes and whatnnot on joke day, joker mcjokerson.
I GET JOKES
yeah? and how did you come w/ that?
Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 01, 2009, 09:07 PM
I have it. Who wants it?
to be honest it's already the 2nd at my place, so HA HA
I made a typo. I meant to write "I wish I had it. Who else wishes they had it?"
To make up for this thread, here's a live version in pretty good quality:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIG00SdjsxE
I think it's a good song. The chorus and bridge are both sick. My favorite part of the main riff is faint. I hope that part after the really quick guitar stabs is more present in the studio version. You guys hear what I'm talking about? Hopefully there's no piggie squeals either.
fuck yall
Ah you bitch.
perhaps im in the minority but i think melanie isnt much of a good song... :-\
Quote from: Timmy666 on Apr 02, 2009, 12:00 AM
perhaps im in the minority but i think melanie isnt much of a good song... :-\
they could do better for sure
maybe they scrapped it by now
I fell for it
Quote from: Timmy666 on Apr 02, 2009, 12:00 AM
perhaps im in the minority but i think melanie isnt much of a good song... :-\
yeah it's like a b-side of rats x3, but I guess it's not a final version so probably the studio version will sound cooler.
Quote from: deftonekid on Apr 02, 2009, 12:31 AM
Quote from: Timmy666 on Apr 02, 2009, 12:00 AM
perhaps im in the minority but i think melanie isnt much of a good song... :-\
yeah it's like a b-side of rats x3, but I guess it's not a final version so probably the studio version will sound cooler.
right on
Quote from: Timmy666 on Apr 02, 2009, 12:00 AM
perhaps im in the minority but i think melanie isnt much of a good song... :-\
I definitely want to hear a different sound on the album then melanie
i love the song. franks effects.. the EFFECTS PEOPLE!
yepp.. its actually better when chino is quiet in the bridge and delgados effects is louder. pink pop festival 2006 is a perfect example. almost like a guitar solo :P
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 02, 2009, 11:41 AM
yepp.. its actually better when chino is quiet in the bridge and delgados effects is louder. pink pop festival 2006 is a perfect example. almost like a guitar solo :P
Amen, amen, amen.
I LOVE that version. It's wonderfull to just turn up reaaaallly loud. And then, after the effects and Chino being silent, the man goes 'owww...' and screams his lungs out. Yes. The whole thing rules.
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 02, 2009, 11:41 AM
yepp.. its actually better when chino is quiet in the bridge and delgados effects is louder. pink pop festival 2006 is a perfect example. almost like a guitar solo :P
Yeah I agree with this also. I swear I must watch that video everyday just to hear the bridge with Chino being quiet. I think on the album the effects are nice and subtle. If it were louder I think it would be too over powering. Just my opinion...
Quote from: Timmy666 on Apr 02, 2009, 02:03 AM
Quote from: deftonekid on Apr 02, 2009, 12:31 AM
Quote from: Timmy666 on Apr 02, 2009, 12:00 AM
perhaps im in the minority but i think melanie isnt much of a good song... :-\
yeah it's like a b-side of rats x3, but I guess it's not a final version so probably the studio version will sound cooler.
right on
+1
but i liked it...
i don't like rats, at all.
but i do have hopes for melanie
yea ok. you win :)
Quote from: wither-I on Apr 02, 2009, 05:06 PM
i don't like rats, at all.
+1
One of their worst songs to date.
Quote from: penguin in the desert on Apr 02, 2009, 06:15 PM
Quote from: wither-I on Apr 02, 2009, 05:06 PM
i don't like rats, at all.
+1
One of their worst songs to date.
tru that. the drums should never slow down in the chorus!
overproduced.
QuoteQuote from: penguin in the desert on Today at 08:15 AM
Quote from: wither-I on Today at 07:06 AM
i don't like rats, at all.
+1
One of their worst songs to date.
tru that. the drums should never slow down in the chorus!
overproduced.
Indeed. Agreed. Fuck, just from reading the lyrics you can really tell it's definitely one of their worst songs, if not THE worst...and I just listened to the song 20 minutes ago, and almost wish I hadn't...lol
Melanie should be on the new album, if they make it a double disc, first disc pre-Chi's accident material, second disc post-accident material, or something like that.
Quote from: penguin in the desert on Apr 02, 2009, 06:15 PM
Quote from: wither-I on Apr 02, 2009, 05:06 PM
i don't like rats, at all.
One of their worst songs to date.
the "i wont say nothing,nothing, not a fucking thing" part is fucking sick.. best part of the whole album!
Rats is a great song, one of the best on SNW. I'm not a big fan of Melanie since it sounds like a less ambitious Rats. I do think the chorus in Melanie is better than Rats however and the bridge is pretty sick too. But if the rest of the album is similar in effort, I'm hoping the delay of the album allows them to be a lot more productive.
can I have it somehow? :)
(the studio version)
a very clever joke, u had me goin for a while u piece of shit.
Ratsx3! is one of the best of SNW
That's it.
And "Melanie" seems a lot to it, which I don't like/want.
Maybe that will be quite different in the album.
Rats is cool, mostly. I like the deep notes, the fact that it was something heavy (finally) and the effects that Frank is laying down during the chorus. It was a nice reprieve from the overall feeling of 'crap' throughout SNW.
I don't like the metal breakdown because its fucking stupid for a band like Deftones to do anything so cliched. Its the equivalent of 'flicking the horns' and I'd like to think that this band was above that garbage. They've never written anything like that, so why are they referencing it? Other than a piss poor attempt to define themselves as 'metal' to the dolts that listen to a large collective of less impressive music? The reason why Deftones are one of the few good metal bands is because they don't stagnate in the genre, standing around postulating about being 'ever more metal' with each new album, simultaneously doing absolutely fuck all to push said genre. They're comfortable going outside any genre they may be playing with.
I also didn't understand the necessity to write a song about Frances Farmer. Regardless of whether or not Moreno knew Nirvana had already covered the subject, it just illustrates the great problem with SNW. They were too busy escaping, and writing any old shit rather than release a better album where they were brave enough to confront their problems, as they'd previously done with 'Deftones'.
As for 'Melanie', it sounds like what 'Rapture' might've sounded like if it was bordering on 'any good'. The ascending note bridge after 2 minutes (2:30 in the video) however, is fucking abysmal, and its the type of cliched writing I would hope they'd avoid. As has already been said, 'Rats' was 'ambitious'. Melanie to me sounds like a less ambitious version of Rats, but more ambitious than Rapture. Its in the middle.
I'm going to be ever more critical with this new album, I know it. SNW was a vile tasting, warning sign. The first four albums were like drinking a nice milkshake, and all of a sudden, SNW was a clotted lump of snot when you were used to, and expecting, more milkshake.
SNW is a rad album, man.
Quote from: Bergerac on Apr 03, 2009, 11:10 AM
Rats is cool, mostly. I like the deep notes, the fact that it was something heavy (finally) and the effects that Frank is laying down during the chorus. It was a nice reprieve from the overall feeling of 'crap' throughout SNW.
I don't like the metal breakdown because its fucking stupid for a band like Deftones to do anything so cliched. Its the equivalent of 'flicking the horns' and I'd like to think that this band was above that garbage. They've never written anything like that, so why are they referencing it? Other than a piss poor attempt to define themselves as 'metal' to the dolts that listen to a large collective of less impressive music? The reason why Deftones are one of the few good metal bands is because they don't stagnate in the genre, standing around postulating about being 'ever more metal' with each new album, simultaneously doing absolutely fuck all to push said genre. They're comfortable going outside any genre they may be playing with.
I also didn't understand the necessity to write a song about Frances Farmer. Regardless of whether or not Moreno knew Nirvana had already covered the subject, it just illustrates the great problem with SNW. They were too busy escaping, and writing any old shit rather than release a better album where they were brave enough to confront their problems, as they'd previously done with 'Deftones'.
As for 'Melanie', it sounds like what 'Rapture' might've sounded like if it was bordering on 'any good'. The ascending note bridge after 2 minutes (2:30 in the video) however, is fucking abysmal, and its the type of cliched writing I would hope they'd avoid. As has already been said, 'Rats' was 'ambitious'. Melanie to me sounds like a less ambitious version of Rats, but more ambitious than Rapture. Its in the middle.
I'm going to be ever more critical with this new album, I know it. SNW was a vile tasting, warning sign. The first four albums were like drinking a nice milkshake, and all of a sudden, SNW was a clotted lump of snot when you were used to, and expecting, more milkshake.
haha good points man, and well written.
from what i recall in an old interview, chino was reading about frances the farmer when dreaming up track titles, and he mentions nirvana already covering those grounds, but he decided to just slap that titile on the sonng because it fit the sound. from what i remember...
i will def be very critical of this album as well. i have faith in it though. i think they'll be working with some strong emotions and i hope they dont "try too hard" cause then it will be overproduced garbo like rapture, and rats
yeah i demand a good record .first of all - it has taken a long time and then they gotta compensate for doing a pretty bad record the last time(by deftones standards) i dont mind if deftones sound metal cliche a minute or 2 on one song on their 5th record,but the problem is they're not doing it any well... nothing really happens in the rats part thats mentioned. melanie on the other hand sound great from start to finish.lets se how the final studio version will turn out
my fav part of rats is the breathing/gasping/shivering/shuttering sound at the very end
I think Eros will be better than SNW because:
1. They're working together as a band. SNW was pieced together oddly.
2. Terry Date.
3. They know in their heart that snw wasnt very good, so they got to perform this time
all good ponts, hope to hear some new shit this weekend at bamboozle
i was impressed with Saturday Night Wrist.i just deftones continue what they are good at doin..writing amazin songs
Quote from: Bergerac on Apr 03, 2009, 11:10 AM
SNW was a vile tasting, warning sign. The first four albums were like drinking a nice milkshake, and all of a sudden, SNW was a clotted lump of snot when you were used to, and expecting, more milkshake.
so fucking true dude, we want more freakin milkshake!
Quote from: Inkblades on Apr 03, 2009, 09:36 PM
I think Eros will be better than SNW because:
1. They're working together as a band. SNW was pieced together oddly.
2. Terry Date.
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Apr 03, 2009, 09:47 PM
3. They know in their heart that snw wasnt very good, so they got to perform this time
Totally true.
But once again, they need to change the album's name. I don't like at all "Eros". But if at the end sounds really good, I don't care!
Quote from: buddyboy101 on Apr 03, 2009, 09:29 PM
my fav part of rats is the breathing/gasping/shivering/shuttering sound at the very end
hahaha ive said the same thing before!
Rats..it's a bad ass song, the first time I ever saw deftones they opened up with it..first time they had ever played it..wow..just wow
[youtube=425,350]LzkFEydTqEk[/youtube]
dope shit right there
Quote from: Vesanic on Apr 02, 2009, 10:16 AM...
i LOVE the live version
but the album version is just brutal
fuck effects....get a good audio output if you dont hear it man
and...
Quote from: Timmy666 on Apr 03, 2009, 07:44 PMSNW is a rad album, man.
most def.
Personally I disagree completely with the critics about SNW. The entire record really conceptual lyrically. I admit, that for the first time of listening to, I skipped most of the tracks, including Rats!rats!rats!, but then I became addicted to the whole album.
Conceptual?
I appreciate that Moreno likes to dabble with ambiguity and the vague, but I think the problem with SNW is that he became too lazy in that regard, and spewed out lyrics that were so vague, that they had little to no recognisable substance. Though, that's my whole point - SNW as an album effort has no substance, because its an exercise in escapism.
Hole In The Earth is typical strained friendship material. Rapture is his escapism surfacing, but with lyrics like 'Different needles. The same kind of thread', its just uninterestingly written. Some of his worst lyrics to date; the metaphors are painful. Tracks like Mein, Rats and Xerces suffer from similar treatment. His contribution to PCP is minimal. Riviere and Kim Dracula are decent, but with Riviere, its the simple treading of old water, and Kim Dracula or - let's face it - THE EARTH's lyrics, would be more at home on their eponymous album. So you're left with Beware and Cherry Waves.
Throw a few stupid scats in the mix, and Combat could be a Jon Davis song.
glad my vid is getting play still thanks shinedown!!!
who fuckin cares about lyrics its about the music anyway, getting a feeling of the sounds. snw is very good.
I fucking care about lyrics, so how about you quit trying to undermine the conversation just because you have nothing to say for yourself?
What would songs like ATF, Korea, Battleaxe be without their lyrics? What would be the point to a song like Feiticeira if you don't have the situation?
I agree the lyrics are overly ambigious but it beats being dry. Instead of "EVERYTHING IS FINE!!!!" Chino could change it to "I'll slash your ass raw!!!!!"
Quote from: Bergerac on Apr 07, 2009, 08:12 PM
Conceptual?
I appreciate that Moreno likes to dabble with ambiguity and the vague, but I think the problem with SNW is that he became too lazy in that regard, and spewed out lyrics that were so vague, that they had little to no recognisable substance. Though, that's my whole point - SNW as an album effort has no substance, because its an exercise in escapism.
Hole In The Earth is typical strained friendship material. Rapture is his escapism surfacing, but with lyrics like 'Different needles. The same kind of thread', its just uninterestingly written. Some of his worst lyrics to date; the metaphors are painful. Tracks like Mein, Rats and Xerces suffer from similar treatment. His contribution to PCP is minimal. Riviere and Kim Dracula are decent, but with Riviere, its the simple treading of old water, and Kim Dracula or - let's face it - THE EARTH's lyrics, would be more at home on their eponymous album. So you're left with Beware and Cherry Waves.
Throw a few stupid scats in the mix, and Combat could be a Jon Davis song.
I respect your position but I completely disagree. Yes, there are a few tracks on SNW that are a bit of a chore to get through but that usually only happens when I think about it too much while listening. I have always loved Chino's lyrics and I feel he has followed suit perfectly on SNW in regards to the quality of the other albums. His words have generally poured out so naturally that it feels like most of the phrases he sings could be culled straight from real life dialogue yet are immortalized by the melodies and deliveries to which they are attached. The only exceptions to this for me are "Mein" and "Xerces" but even then only slightly.
Quote from: Bergerac on Apr 09, 2009, 09:51 PM
I fucking care about lyrics, so how about you quit trying to undermine the conversation just because you have nothing to say for yourself?
What would songs like ATF, Korea, Battleaxe be without their lyrics? What would be the point to a song like Feiticeira if you don't have the situation?
to me, deftones is much about _how_ chino sings,the emotions he expresses, not so much about what about.
good lyrics can definitely make a song even better - no question,like spice to make food tastier, but i have to say all of those songs still would be good without those lyrics...even if they were at a low snw standard.instrumental songs can be awesome - proving lyrics isnt everything when it comes to music.just listen to mogwais "im jim morrison im dead" what a fucking masterpiece. not selecet start song thou, kind of pointless.instrumental deftones songs are stupid at the first idea
i like how the lyrics are all jumbled and wtf-like, everyone has a different opinion on what the song is about then
take knife prty for example
everyone thought it was about suicide and shit, but to chino it's all about extreme sexual desires
I like turtles
yeah, why didnt u say that on loveline
hey chino I like turtles
Quote from: Penicks on Apr 10, 2009, 06:32 PM
i like how the lyrics are all jumbled and wtf-like, everyone has a different opinion on what the song is about then
take knife prty for example
everyone thought it was about suicide and shit, but to chino it's all about extreme sexual desires
Yeah, but the Knife Prty lyrics are actually good, and contextually speaking, its not on SNW.
Extreme sexual desires? Knife Prty is about heroine. "My knife is sharp and chrome, come see inside my bones"
to me it is anyways.
Quote from: Timmy666 on Apr 11, 2009, 03:52 AM
Extreme sexual desires? Knife Prty is about heroine. "My knife is sharp and chrome, come see inside my bones"
to me it is anyways.
Thus proving the point about the ambiguously interpretive nature of Chino's lyrics. :-)
And where can I find more pics of the chic in your sig?
every deftones lyric is about sex with horny latino men. no questions, no interpretations. I AM RIGHT. CHino told me himself..shhh
so in the song cant even breathe, it really should be "fuck HIM just one more time" ?