http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmOgXxMAnWo
cool
awesome..
holy shit i can't wait!
can't wait what? to be on the board more than 5 mins every 6 months?
like now, when there's a new song up!
...fucking n00bs
Quote from: cyppe101 on Sep 20, 2008, 03:30 AM
can't wait what? to be on the board more than 5 mins every 6 months?
like now, when there's a new song up!
...fucking n00bs
hahha hes right... thats old check out the spaceland thread
Wtf, it's like Rats with a different chorus....ummmm...
They just need to be sat down and strapped to chairs while the first 3 albums are blasted at them for 3 days straight so they can maybe pick up the sound they should still be trying for....oh and umm, a new singer (haha sorry Chino, you're just not the same anymore)...
Ughhh and that SCREAM he tries to do still!!! Jeez stopppp
i like this noob thread
yo,
I am disappointed by this song, it has the same style like RATS on SNW and thats boring to listen..., I was expecting totaly an other sound, most of all I am missing is the power of chinos voice like 2003, thats sad, that was make deftones meant to me. But that was just one song, I hope the other songs are totally different.
cheers
bunch of haters, they havent played live for almost a year wait till you hear the album version then i will give you remarks some merit. i mean when i heard beware for the first time live it didnt sound good at all, and now its one of my favorites off of SNW...so stop hatin.
nvm
it sounds like shit live seriously
No no no They lost it after S/T...that is one of my favorite albums, you can sit there and be all "ohhh i want White Pony part 2" i didnt say that this was the best thing ive ever heard or that they have ever done. But im just saving judgement till i hear the album version. But im prayin that they dont turn into Korn. But hey at least deftones have put out more Good albums than shitty ones well not shitty more like uninspired...its 4-1
haha fucking n00bs
beware live>studio
Quote from: m1nusblindfoLd on Sep 20, 2008, 07:24 AM
Maybe, but any song off SNW still sucks compared to any other song on any album prior to SNW...and you fucking KNOW it...no matter what anyone says. They just lost it after WP....no room for argument. SNW just doesn't have one ounce of the soul or feeling or vibe of the first 3 albums, and you can't say anything to change that.
you do realize that's just YOUR opinion right?
i think SNW is better than s/t
nvm
dont be a dildo
What makes Rats or this song different from stuff on ATF?
nvm
Back then (before 2000), chinos screams had so much power behind them. But i dont complain. Chino blew his voice for the fans, makin sure they got a good show. and he did that for 11+ years...and he is still doing it...so his voice may not be the same, but it is by no strech of the imagination shitty
nvm
Doesn't do much for me...i hope they play a different new song at the Phoenix show tomorrow...but there's probably no chance of that happening.
Quote from: m1nusblindfoLd on Sep 20, 2008, 09:53 AM
Are you serious? One listen to each can answer that: The literal sound of the guitar, the songs themselves, Chino's voice which used to be amazing and point-on and melodic, the type and way of singing, the originality and awesomeness of the lyrics, the song titles (lol), ETC...
Yes, I'm serious. I guess you need Chino to stop singing, Stef to pick up his 6 again, and for Terry to record with equipment circa 1997. I do wish they'd go more in the direction of the S/T album though, cause I was really disappointed with most of SNW.
Quote from: glassdomino on Sep 20, 2008, 10:27 AM
Quote from: m1nusblindfoLd on Sep 20, 2008, 09:53 AM
Are you serious? One listen to each can answer that: The literal sound of the guitar, the songs themselves, Chino's voice which used to be amazing and point-on and melodic, the type and way of singing, the originality and awesomeness of the lyrics, the song titles (lol), ETC...
Yes, I'm serious. I guess you need Chino to stop singing, Stef to pick up his 6 again, and for Terry to record with equipment circa 1997. I do wish they'd go more in the direction of the S/T album though, cause I was really disappointed with most of SNW.
Why not support a different fucking band then???
Quote from: Subliminal on Sep 20, 2008, 10:45 AM
Why not support a different fucking band then???
Don't jump on me dude, I'm defending them here.
its amazing how i or anyone has to defend the band on their fucking fan boards.
Quote from: Deftones86 on Sep 20, 2008, 10:03 AM
Back then (before 2000), chinos screams had so much power behind them. But i dont complain. Chino blew his voice for the fans, makin sure they got a good show. and he did that for 11+ years...and he is still doing it...so his voice may not be the same, but it is by no strech of the imagination shitty
this is one of the greater things ive heard said on this board, ever.
long live the tones -no matter of their aging nature
it sounds really a lot like rats! rats rats
it sounds like it had to be on SNW. perfectly fit to that album.
everything goes
hard to tell what it really sounds like...
the chorus is hella weird
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aHMc2BlIOk&feature=related
I'm diggin the hell outta it.
Quote from: White Pwny on Sep 20, 2008, 02:24 PM
I'm diggin the hell outta it.
Same, seriously. Love the chorus. Album version will sound just bonerific.
Quote from: Subliminal on Sep 20, 2008, 10:45 AM
Quote from: glassdomino on Sep 20, 2008, 10:27 AM
Quote from: m1nusblindfoLd on Sep 20, 2008, 09:53 AM
Are you serious? One listen to each can answer that: The literal sound of the guitar, the songs themselves, Chino's voice which used to be amazing and point-on and melodic, the type and way of singing, the originality and awesomeness of the lyrics, the song titles (lol), ETC...
Yes, I'm serious. I guess you need Chino to stop singing, Stef to pick up his 6 again, and for Terry to record with equipment circa 1997. I do wish they'd go more in the direction of the S/T album though, cause I was really disappointed with most of SNW.
Why not support a different fucking band then???
LIAM!!!!
Melanie must be a huge bitch.
Quote from: bloody_liver on Sep 20, 2008, 05:54 PM
Melanie must be a huge bitch.
probably...damn good-for-nothing-ho... :P
To say that this song is no good because "it doesn't retain the deftones sound", and then go on to praise Adrenaline, ATF, and WP, makes no sense. WP sounds very different than Adrenaline, so they didn't "retain the same sound" on that either. The Deftones "sound" is still in progress; they're still evolving and culturing their sound. Making the same album is redundant and a waste of time. At least when bands evolve you are offered more choices and styles to choose from; however, if they make the same album over and over you are left with no choice as to what you listen to. You always have the option to just go back and listen to the first three albums if you don't enjoy the new stuff.
Interesting this. It's hard to say much about it. Other then, looking forward to hearing it in better quality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIG00SdjsxE
they need to do a heavy song with complex fucking riffs and not this rats bullshit.
tho it could sound better on the album..
it doesnt sound like rats. rats has a lot more parts/riffs
this song is more like rapture
more like a mix of the two.
Steff's gettin lazy w/ tha riffs, it does sound like rats.
I like the chorus tho, its been stuck in my head so I know thats a good thing.
I'll wait to hear the studio version before I judge, but overall I like it.
I remember when I first heard Beware, it was the live leak. I'm never impressed by live recordings
Stef certainly didnt bring anything new to the table this time
so chino is not sporting the kewl socks anymore lawl
its just one song, one side of the band..they're known for their diversity!
i went on this persons myspace and herd it i just thought it was the early verion of rats
i am not gonna hear it.
i will wait for the new album, with everything complete. but...ok, it´s heavy, i guess.
SNW kinda dissapointed me, so maybe this time, with no previuos hearing of "leaked" songs, the new album will have a good impact on me.
Melanie played at Ventura:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIG00SdjsxE
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 21, 2008, 05:10 AM
Melanie played at Ventura:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIG00SdjsxE
Thanks
sounds alright, but nothing new really
Quote from: emehlen on Sep 20, 2008, 10:05 PM
Steff's gettin lazy w/ tha riffs, it does sound like rats.
I like the chorus tho, its been stuck in my head so I know thats a good thing.
I'll wait to hear the studio version before I judge, but overall I like it.
I remember when I first heard Beware, it was the live leak. I'm never impressed by live recordings
hmm I hope they change the name if not theyre gettin lazy with naming the songs they sound like they're tryin hard tho :)
Am really loving Melanie... It might not be the biggest renewal they did, but it sounds awesome anyway... That chorus is great, it's that catchy that I had it all day long in my head, and I just listened few times the song...
I cannot wait to hear the album....
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Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 21, 2008, 05:10 AM
Melanie played at Ventura:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIG00SdjsxE
Wow This recording made me have a whole new respect for the song sounds alot better...i cant fuckin wait, but looks like i will have to.... bleh 2009...
This new recording is much better. It almost sounds like ATF in some points. Here's hoping for a really hard record, but of course with the more emotional stuff from White Pony. I'm not asking for something the same as their previous records, but it really sounds like it could also be on ATF. The energy, you know.
Quote from: Moz on Sep 21, 2008, 03:32 PM
This new recording is much better. It almost sounds like ATF in some points. Here's hoping for a really hard record, but of course with the more emotional stuff from White Pony. I'm not asking for something the same as their previous records, but it really sounds like it could also be on ATF. The energy, you know.
Thats what i thought kinda sounds like damone at some points...but thats my opinon others probablly will bash me and say im wrong...but do i care? no
Yeah fuck the haters. Havent listened to Deftones for a year now and this sounds fresh. Now Im listening to all records again and even S/T and SNW are fucking awesome. No Deftones record is the same, how can you hate on that.
<3 Moz!!!!
i really don't think i could go with out listening to them for a year...especially not ATF or S/T those two albums are drastically different but equally amazing
Quote from: Deftones86 on Sep 21, 2008, 03:38 PM
Quote from: Moz on Sep 21, 2008, 03:32 PM
This new recording is much better. It almost sounds like ATF in some points. Here's hoping for a really hard record, but of course with the more emotional stuff from White Pony. I'm not asking for something the same as their previous records, but it really sounds like it could also be on ATF. The energy, you know.
Thats what i thought kinda sounds like damone at some points...but thats my opinon others probablly will bash me and say im wrong...but do i care? no
Damone? Umm no.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 20, 2008, 09:17 PM
it doesnt sound like rats. rats has a lot more parts/riffs
this song is more like rapture
Quote from: cyppe101 on Sep 20, 2008, 09:21 PM
more like a mix of the two.
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 21, 2008, 05:10 AM
Melanie played at Ventura:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIG00SdjsxE
Now this sounds damn good. Thanks!
not bad at all...eros era? i assumed... ::)
Another Ventura version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQcuOI-8DU0
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 21, 2008, 07:23 PM
Another Ventura version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQcuOI-8DU0
woah great!!.....this version's much better...
lol
WOW!! the guitar riff between the course going back into the verse is awesome.
The whole song is awesome.
the part of the song from 2:13 min til 2:30 also reminds me of rapture.it's an awesome song and it has grown on me but i hope it wont be on eros.
awesome song... yet you hope it isn't on the album? wow, ok?!
Quote from: cEvin Key on Sep 21, 2008, 08:14 PM
the part of the song from 2:13 min til 2:30 also reminds me of rapture.it's an awesome song and it has grown on me but i hope it wont be on eros.
(http://i35.tinypic.com/1tlphu.jpg)
Kind of disappointed by the song. The band keeps saying they're going to get more progressive but they only have glimmers of this on each successive album. I can dig straight forward songs, but like others have said, it sounds a lot like a few of their other songs, which has also been a problem of theirs (writing songs that sound too similar). In my opinion, the songs that this sounds like (Rapture, Rats, and to a lesser extent Teething) were a lot more progressive in their composition. I do find the chorus to be superior to Rapture and Rats however.
I'm hoping the rest of the album sounds like they put a lot more work into it. Otherwise, I think the short writing time will mean lackluster songs.
Quote from: Subliminal on Sep 20, 2008, 10:45 AM
Quote from: glassdomino on Sep 20, 2008, 10:27 AM
Quote from: m1nusblindfoLd on Sep 20, 2008, 09:53 AM
Are you serious? One listen to each can answer that: The literal sound of the guitar, the songs themselves, Chino's voice which used to be amazing and point-on and melodic, the type and way of singing, the originality and awesomeness of the lyrics, the song titles (lol), ETC...
Yes, I'm serious. I guess you need Chino to stop singing, Stef to pick up his 6 again, and for Terry to record with equipment circa 1997. I do wish they'd go more in the direction of the S/T album though, cause I was really disappointed with most of SNW.
Why not support a different fucking band then???
Exactly. I don't spend my days posting on Madonna forums saying what a stupid slag she's become, and how her earlier shit was the bollocks.
If you don't like it, fuck off you silly cunt.
Also, I really like it.
Quote from: ToneDef on Sep 21, 2008, 09:49 PM
If you don't like it, fuck off you silly cunt.
+1 ;D
Quote from: ToneDef on Sep 21, 2008, 09:49 PM
If you don't like it, fuck off you silly cunt.
lolz. Srsly, funny.
i honestly think it sounds better than both rats and rapture,
i hated those two songs.
it seems as though they may have smoothed out the edges to those two failed gems.
im thinkin this will be good.
may diversity reign on this record
Good shit. Looking foward to the new record.
Trust me. None of these videos do the song justice.
Just can't wait to hear album version. I couldn't really hear the sounds Frank was doing.
that riff sounds too much like rats, I like the chorus tho
rats rats rats?
Quote from: mikau on Sep 22, 2008, 04:23 AM
that riff sounds too much like rats, I like the chorus tho
so much SNW hate, damn.
I don't mind a SNW pt 2 for Eros at all.
This song does sound like filler though. Kinda forced you know?
Let me point out [for reference in opinion] that I hate RatsRatsRats because it jumped on the metalcore bandwagon.
I love Rats and I love this song.
I don't mind at all if this sounds like Rats!, "When Girls Telephone Boys" was extremely similar to "Elite" yet WGTB is far superior and one of deftones greatest songs.
i think the song is good. catchy and short.
i remembered when they released FM it was better live than on that disc.
hopefully chino is just the one big paradox he portrays and when he says, "this is our BEST album yet"! -(and then turns out its just iiiiiight....)
so im thinking in dispose, -chino said in that interview on the other thread, when asked the question, "do you think this will be the best deftones record yet?" , and then he replied, "i dunno... maybe..... i havent really sat back and gathered it all in full"(or whtever he said exactly), -my prediction is that the album will be the best, and since melanie isnt "that" great live, that it will be fucking awesome on the album version unlike the miscarriage of FM and it's lesser formed twin Rats...rats....rats......
so in adding this, i say the album will prob reside along white pony better than SNW when speaking of a "dynamic/diverse" and "experimental" album.
i still have faith this album will top snw and be more fluid and conceptually consistent.
the song is totally awesome, full of energy and the adrenaline pumps through my body,man i get all sweaty from listening to it.
at this version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iskGOFgbfbQ i think u can hear franks effects rather good, 1:09 --->
Around The Fur = Adrenaline part 2 with more melodic songs
Deftones (ST) = White Pony wannabe (Experimental side of White Pony)
Eros = definitely SNW part 2 (Melanie says it all)
just to be clear, snw wasnt a very hard record. when i think of snw i think more of the shitty songs like cherry waves, mein,beware,xerces etc, soft melodic stuff written by chino. this new song isnt like most of the songs on snw just maybe 2 songs so i think its wrong to call it typical snw-stuff
Quote from: pony_01 on Sep 22, 2008, 05:42 PM
Deftones (ST) = White Pony wannabe (Experimental side of White Pony)
Bull fucking shit.
Quote from: pony_01 on Sep 22, 2008, 05:42 PM
Around The Fur = Adrenaline part 2 with more melodic songs
Deftones (ST) = White Pony wannabe (Experimental side of White Pony)
Eros = definitely SNW part 2 (Melanie says it all)
Did you even listen to those first two albums?
Quote from: Penicks on Sep 22, 2008, 07:06 PM
Quote from: pony_01 on Sep 22, 2008, 05:42 PM
Deftones (ST) = White Pony wannabe (Experimental side of White Pony)
Bull fucking shit.
seriously
The experimental side of White Pony was...
WHITE PONY!!!!
this thread sucks
so does ur mum m8
on my cawk m8
Quote from: pony_01 on Sep 22, 2008, 05:42 PMEros = definitely SNW part 2 (Melanie says it all)
How can you actually say that a single song represents an entire album that you've never heard?
Quote from: Numina on Sep 22, 2008, 08:27 PM
Quote from: pony_01 on Sep 22, 2008, 05:42 PMEros = definitely SNW part 2 (Melanie says it all)
How can you actually say that a single song represents an entire album that you've never heard?
makes no sense
this song kinda have the same atmosphere with hexagram/ratsrats
well i am fucking sure that this song in studio will kick your asses :)
frank's job is great on this one. anyway its great on everyone i know but i really liked melanie i dont care if the riff sounds like rats3x its still a great song. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iskGOFgbfbQ
CAN'T....STAND....what occurs at 00:17 and 1:08 arrrghhhhh stoppp what is that? Doing that on SNW/at every show last year was enough.
Otherwise..the song has grown on me a little since I last dissed it in this thread lol. Certainly no classic Tones material and the offbeat vocal parts of the chorus are a little ehh but I like the progressively higher and higher part after the chorus...kinda cool. Definitely does have the feel of Rats and Rapture tho which never held my interest for too long. I want to give this album a chance though before being disappointed.
i want the album to have 5 songs that are between 7 and 12 minutes long.
Quote from: Hidalgo on Sep 22, 2008, 08:42 PM
Quote from: Numina on Sep 22, 2008, 08:27 PM
Quote from: pony_01 on Sep 22, 2008, 05:42 PMEros = definitely SNW part 2 (Melanie says it all)
How can you actually say that a single song represents an entire album that you've never heard?
makes no sense
This makes complete sense...
Quote from: m1nusblindfoLd on Sep 23, 2008, 01:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iskGOFgbfbQ
CAN'T....STAND....what occurs at 00:17 and 1:08 arrrghhhhh stoppp what is that?
That's the Chino Moreno piggie squeal. Come on, that's his signature move.
I lol'ed just now
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 23, 2008, 04:17 AM
Quote from: m1nusblindfoLd on Sep 23, 2008, 01:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iskGOFgbfbQ
CAN'T....STAND....what occurs at 00:17 and 1:08 arrrghhhhh stoppp what is that?
That's the Chino Moreno piggie squeal. Come on, that's his signature move.
Yeah man how could you not know about that. Chino always does dem squeals. Check this one out. This one is even more intense. Its around 2:48 and more towards the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDH7Fx1APR8&fmt=18
No no no, I know what it is..hence me saying he did it enough on SNW/during last years shows. I know ALL too well ever since he started doing it before SNW came out...arrghh the thought of the Camillo Wong pig squeal....
I just said "What is that?" to re-emphasize how ridiculous and non-human it is LoL!
If it's ridiculous, why listen?
Um, I think everyone thinks that 'scream' is ridiculous. That does't mean I don't like Deftones.
Hush girl.
i dont see what the big deal about this is. i cant even listen to it, the quality is too bad and i dont wanna ruin the song.
I like the piggie squeal
All I know is sometimes I really can love some of SNW even though I overall am a little disappointed with it at times. Like for instance my head unit shuffled to Xerces on my iPod in my car just before and I turned it up (I have 2 Rockford 10"s in a ported box/Alpine HU) and not only does it sound sick as fuck but it's hard to believe that such heart-felt vocals and lyrics could come from someone like Chino...it really does affect your emotions. And the music itself in the song is so ridiculously good too, such a perfect match with the singing. I have to give it up for that song really. Sometimes I have to go back and listen to songs that I forget about to remember how well-made they really are. The song really does hit and affect me just as much as Mascara always does if not more.
Quote from: m1nusblindfoLd on Sep 23, 2008, 01:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iskGOFgbfbQ
Damn, Franks keys are LOUD!
Quote from: Inkblades on Sep 23, 2008, 04:17 AM
That's the Chino Moreno piggie squeal. Come on, that's his signature move.
can something be your signature move when you've totally stolen it from someone else (in this case from Mike Patton)?
Quote from: m1nusblindfoLd on Sep 23, 2008, 04:53 PM
Um, I think everyone thinks that 'scream' is ridiculous. That does't mean I don't like Deftones.
Hush girl.
The piggie squeal is horrible. He needs to stop
downloaded the flac version and I can actually hear whats going on now. pretty badass.
I love that squeal especially when they play hexagram. protect lifes indigenous sound.
That one's a bit more normal sounding and sounds good in Hexagram (which is perfect) IMO...the others screams are too high and too girly.
Im talkin about Hexagram live. On the record its over dubbed.
OOhhhh gotcha..yeah true that..haha he HAS to do the squeal there. There would be no way he'd be able to do most of the screams from the album version now (or ever) lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iskGOFgbfbQ
at 1:42 the song gets really really awesome..
can someone up the flac version of the pinkerpop wgtb performance
Quote from: sicily on Sep 25, 2008, 02:50 AM
can someone up the flac version of the pinkerpop wgtb performance
Only if you lick my balls
haha
beware
hite
combat
cherry
kimdracula
riviere
rats
Could anyone tell me which one of these song sucks ??
What kind of Deftones listener says that SNW or ''melanie'' sucks?...
These are all came by genius musical mind..and absolutely they are being more proffeisional on all next album.
If another SNW coming oh thank you god.
To me 'Melanie' seems better than rapture and rats. Cuz the include and the concept of rats and rapture is too separate and short. But this one is good.
My fav album is ATF cuz of metal gears with melodic chorus, voices.
On SNW;
I didnt like Xerces song cuz it is like Celine Dion thing,i think chino would do it in Team Sleep (not for bad)
I didnt like Mein, i think its too simple
I like uuudddlll ( :)) but it shouldnt be in the album
I didnt like rapture cuz it include so much simple horror sounds on chorous,it wasnt necessary, but the begining of the song is great
Eros seems like to be the best album of 2007-2008-2009..Look at the rock bands, tell me who made a great album on this year
But deftones always makes the songs will never die.
Also Chinos screams is not like old days thats what i like. I mean yeah when we were Adrenaline it was great to hear scream, but now with deftones we have more melancoli more soft soul and chino express that good (i am not saying dont scream,i mean dont wanna hear screams on 7 tracks like adrenalin or atf)
nice first post. welcome ;)
i just...wrote it :)
you shoud see me in tkink.com on first post...it was like 2 page :D
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Sep 26, 2008, 10:13 PM
beware
hite
combat
cherry
kimdracula
riviere
rats
Could anyone tell me which one of these song sucks ??
What kind of Deftones listener says that SNW or ''melanie'' sucks?...
These are all came by genius musical mind..and absolutely they are being more proffeisional on all next album.
If another SNW coming oh thank you god.
To me 'Melanie' seems better than rapture and rats. Cuz the include and the concept of rats and rapture is too separate and short. But this one is good.
My fav album is ATF cuz of metal gears with melodic chorus, voices.
On SNW;
I didnt like Xerces song cuz it is like Celine Dion thing,i think chino would do it in Team Sleep (not for bad)
I didnt like Mein, i think its too simple
I like uuudddlll ( :)) but it shouldnt be in the album
I didnt like rapture cuz it include so much simple horror sounds on chorous,it wasnt necessary, but the begining of the song is great
Eros seems like to be the best album of 2007-2008-2009..Look at the rock bands, tell me who made a great album on this year
But deftones always makes the songs will never die.
Also Chinos screams is not like old days thats what i like. I mean yeah when we were Adrenaline it was great to hear scream, but now with deftones we have more melancoli more soft soul and chino express that good (i am not saying dont scream,i mean dont wanna hear screams on 7 tracks like adrenalin or atf)
all those SNW songs are great, includin Rapture and Mein. ATF rules. you've summed it up!
it's the first time since SNW release I listen to DTones and it's such nice surprise!
i was goin thru the demos 2day, im glad those songs were scrapped and fresh material was put on the record.
how do you know the song is called melanie?
i love every deftones songs ever.
except for melanie. im sure it will be better in january though.
Quote from: mikau on Sep 28, 2008, 10:29 PM
how do you know the song is called melanie?
It was written on their setlist.
Quote from: Oldnewtype on Sep 28, 2008, 11:55 PM
i love every deftones songs ever.
except for melanie. im sure it will be better in january though.
HAHA.
I don't like Moana... at all.
I fucking hate the worship part in Hexagram.
Quote from: Penicks on Sep 29, 2008, 07:30 PM
I fucking hate the worship part in Hexagram.
I used to hate it... when it was new.
But c'mon, then you don't like Hexagram....
No, I love the beginning and the same sound and the scream and shits, but fucking hate WASHAP, PRAY PLAY PLAI PRAY WASHAP BALAW AWAH fuck ass bitch.
Quote from: Penicks on Sep 29, 2008, 07:50 PM
No, I love the beginning and the same sound and the scream and shits, but fucking hate WASHAP, PRAY PLAY PLAI PRAY WASHAP BALAW AWAH fuck ass bitch.
haha true !
that's the only part i hate on hexagram
I like it. I just think it goes on for to long.
I must frankly say I can't think of what part you guys are talking about.
i love moana. at least it sounds like deftones.. kind of dark,emotional and heavy at the same time.
i dont like hole in the earth,beware,cherry waves,mein,code,xerces,pink cellphone.
at all.
why? cause they dont sound like deftones
all of those songs are better than moana to me
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Sep 30, 2008, 05:48 PM
i dont like hole in the earth,beware,cherry waves,mein,code,xerces,pink cellphone.
at all.
why? cause they dont sound like deftones
so a band cant evolve? if you listen to their albums in order, those songs (and sounds) make sense. deftones have been turning into a heavy ambient band ever since ATF imo. sure they still have rckers, but i think the next album is going to be a lot like snw in regards to ambience
Quote from: jesusinabowlofdirt on Sep 30, 2008, 05:48 PM
i dont like hole in the earth,beware,cherry waves,mein,code,xerces,pink cellphone.
at all.
why? cause they dont sound like deftones
deftones sound changes in every house of flies..
You should listen ''beware'' and ''cherry waves'' again..
if you still dont like them then ;
Sylar should cut your head off :)
Anyone saying they don't like SNW I don't agree with. Along with this new song, it sounds wicked a hell.
Just like any band, they have evolved and embraced a new sound, you've still got your raw as hell deftones with a little bit of art mixed in (sorry stupid description, but that's what I think).
Sure, I think they made mistakes with their singles (Hite was good but not single material, mein was just an average song), but regrardless a great album.
Eros is going to be great, chino is focusing on singing and lyrics this time, along with his "newish" scream, so that's gotta be good for something.
Quote from: bewareofrats on Sep 30, 2008, 01:14 AM
I must frankly say I can't think of what part you guys are talking about.
The muh-fucking worship/play part in Hexagram. I guess it's the chorus.
You really don't know?
Quote from: glassdomino on Sep 22, 2008, 03:38 PM
I love Rats and I love this song.
;D Samee.But how could you not?
Quote from: m1nusblindfoLd on Sep 23, 2008, 07:44 AM
No no no, I know what it is..hence me saying he did it enough on SNW/during last years shows. I know ALL too well ever since he started doing it before SNW came out...arrghh the thought of the Camillo Wong pig squeal....
I just said "What is that?" to re-emphasize how ridiculous and non-human it is LoL!
The squeal makes me laugh.
Quote from: White Pwny on Sep 23, 2008, 12:07 PM
If it's ridiculous, why listen?
Had to see what it sounded like, btw hi pwny :P.
For the record like it, and recently as I type this listening to s/t (which i didnt like at all for some reason) and it's sounding great to me atm. Very weird.
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Quote from: sicily on Sep 25, 2008, 02:50 AM
can someone up the flac version of the pinkerpop wgtb performance
Only if you lick my balls
Died laughing.
Oh and I like moana
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Quote from: Penicks on Sep 29, 2008, 07:50 PM
No, I love the beginning and the same sound and the scream and shits, but fucking hate WASHAP, PRAY PLAY PLAI PRAY WASHAP BALAW AWAH fuck ass bitch.
haha true !
that's the only part i hate on hexagram
I love that part, I think it's genius
@ turn1ps
- So you like the music groups which sounds like you like ? I think when you wanna listen music you should coose songs you like..not groups or sounds.May be you can like KimDracula by this way.
@ infector
- i agree with you on snw they choose the wrong singles for the adv.
Quote from: turn1ps on Oct 01, 2008, 12:54 AM
btw hi pwny :P.
For the record like it, and recently as I type this listening to s/t (which i didnt like at all for some reason) and it's sounding great to me atm. Very weird.
Hey you! Glad to see you around here again! BTW. ST rules.
talking about snw should be happing on a proper thread, come on guys.
dont get me wrong though, i love snw but this bitch is about MELANIEEE
Quote from: Slacker on Oct 06, 2008, 10:11 PM
talking about snw should be happing on a proper thread, come on guys.
dont get me wrong though, i love snw but this bitch is about MELANIEEE
yeah but melanie = rats/rapture
duh :P
ok so whos gonna be the first to rip.....noone heard me say that
and this been one lucky nig http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGpSp8VUS60
Quote from: Slacker on Oct 06, 2008, 10:11 PM
talking about snw should be happing on a proper thread, come on guys.
dont get me wrong though, i love snw but this bitch is about MELANIEEE
Melanie sucks, no one wants to talk about shit that sucks. Unless its chicks
you think you are smarter than everyone
Melanie is a good song and that makes you an idiot, sorry..
Quote from: Corleone on Oct 08, 2008, 11:59 PM
Quote from: Slacker on Oct 06, 2008, 10:11 PM
talking about snw should be happing on a proper thread, come on guys.
dont get me wrong though, i love snw but this bitch is about MELANIEEE
yeah but melanie = rats/rapture
duh :P
i kind of desagree, it may sound similiar cause of the guitar figures, pattern signatures and song structure, but if you try to embrace it well youll notice its uniqueness. im so obsessed with the new song, that ive been taking notice of the drumm pattern and guitar signatures and its quite freaking awesome, making this arguably the most challenging technical execution of any deftones songs to date.
and that is badass.
i don't have to try and take notice of drums and guitar on songs, i hear it on the first time.
first time and the fifth time hearing "melanie" sounded same - rats/rapture mash up aka not so good and nothing new.
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Quote from: Corleone on Oct 08, 2008, 11:59 PM
Quote from: Slacker on Oct 06, 2008, 10:11 PM
talking about snw should be happing on a proper thread, come on guys.
dont get me wrong though, i love snw but this bitch is about MELANIEEE
yeah but melanie = rats/rapture
duh :P
i kind of desagree, it may sound similiar cause of the guitar figures, pattern signatures and song structure, but if you try to embrace it well youll notice its uniqueness. im so obsessed with the new song, that ive been taking notice of the drumm pattern and guitar signatures and its quite freaking awesome, making this arguably the most challenging technical execution of any deftones songs to date.
and that is badass.
Actually, the song structure is the one thing Melanie doesn't have in common with Rats and Rapture. Melanie is much simpler. They really moved forward with unorthodox song structures on SNW but it appears they're going backwards if the rest of the songs are as straight forward as Melanie.
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Oct 12, 2008, 06:46 PM
you think you are smarter than everyone
Melanie is a good song and that makes you an idiot, sorry..
Do all of you have a version that is not that distorted ass live version they played? It's the only thing I have heard. If you guys are really ready to sit here and try to have a conversation about the song structure and wether it is a good song or not, and if I'm and idiot for
not liking it ( god you're a tool ) then you are all pretty fucked up. There is no way you are getting all this from that distorted piece of shit. I wan't the clean studio version, or stfu
I mean, I thought it sounded like shit on the shitty recording. But in the back of my mind I keep telling myself that maybe it will be a good song when I hear it properly. A lot of you seem to be convinced that this song is already the shit.
Oh, and rock n frost. Go back through this thread from page 1. I'm pretty sure you are in the minority for liking this song.
I really like it. Even tho I've not heard studio quality yet... I have it on my IPod and I love walkin to this song. Makes me very excited to hear the album in it's entirety.
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You don't need a good version of a song to figure out its structure. Melanie has a very typical structure (verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, verse, chorus). Whereas Rats and Rapture are all over the place. Unorthodox song structures are a signature of "progressive" music. The Deftones have been claiming for years that they were going to get more complex. On SNW they made their biggest leap in technical song writing. But, if all of the songs on Eros are as simple as Melanie, then they've taken a step back.
I like it.... i bet if its going to be on th album it will sound 10001% better.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Oct 13, 2008, 03:25 AM
You don't need a good version of a song to figure out its structure. Melanie has a very typical structure (verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, verse, chorus). Whereas Rats and Rapture are all over the place. Unorthodox song structures are a signature of "progressive" music. The Deftones have been claiming for years that they were going to get more complex. On SNW they made their biggest leap in technical song writing. But, if all of the songs on Eros are as simple as Melanie, then they've taken a step back.
we could clear that up right now, i agree with the song structure argument, but this song, as for instrumental technical execution (as for the drumms and guitar departments acounts) steps up big time. that shit steph is doing, flirts with polyrithmic figures.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Oct 13, 2008, 03:25 AM
You don't need a good version of a song to figure out its structure. Melanie has a very typical structure (verse, chorus, verse, chorus, bridge, verse, chorus). Whereas Rats and Rapture are all over the place. Unorthodox song structures are a signature of "progressive" music. The Deftones have been claiming for years that they were going to get more complex. On SNW they made their biggest leap in technical song writing. But, if all of the songs on Eros are as simple as Melanie, then they've taken a step back.
So? Who gives a rats!rats!rats' ass? A song doesn't need to be complex to be good.
a lot of times simplicity is key
a good song is a good song, no matter how simple or complex it is.
Quote from: Variable on Oct 13, 2008, 03:17 PM
a lot of times simplicity is key
Absolutely, and for deftones that sure is the case. Leave the complex writing to those who are capable.
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Quote from: Variable on Oct 13, 2008, 03:17 PM
a lot of times simplicity is key
Absolutely, and for deftones that sure is the case. Leave the complex writing to those who are capable.
hell deftones have prove that with melanie, damn its good.
Quote from: Crazylegs on Oct 13, 2008, 03:54 PM
Quote from: Variable on Oct 13, 2008, 03:17 PM
a lot of times simplicity is key
Absolutely, and for deftones that sure is the case. Leave the complex writing to those who are capable.
The Deftones have shown that they're more than capable of writing complex songs. And, they keep saying they're going to get more complex with their craft. SNW had glimpses of that, but if all of the songs are as simple as Melanie then they will be moving backwards.
I have nothing against simple songs, I think the Deftones are great at what they do, I would just like to see more out of them. Really, I'm just hoping they don't get as lazy with this record as they did with S/T.
Quote from: Variable on Oct 13, 2008, 03:17 PM
a lot of times simplicity is key
so the simple keys makes the songs bad ?
as he says ;
Quote from: downtownpony on Oct 13, 2008, 03:42 PM
a good song is a good song, no matter how simple or complex it is.
You say SNW is not good also, but the songs ''combat,beware,hite'' are not simple complexes...Even the Deftones cant play them right...
You are talking about ''melanie is not a good song'' but hell yeah you only heard it on live. So why cant i think ''its a good song''
tho you know studio version always being better..
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Oct 13, 2008, 05:14 PM
Quote from: Crazylegs on Oct 13, 2008, 03:54 PM
Quote from: Variable on Oct 13, 2008, 03:17 PM
a lot of times simplicity is key
Absolutely, and for deftones that sure is the case. Leave the complex writing to those who are capable.
Really, I'm just hoping they don't get as lazy with this record as they did with S/T.
Fucking thank you!!!!!!!!
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Oct 13, 2008, 06:30 PM
Quote from: Variable on Oct 13, 2008, 03:17 PM
a lot of times simplicity is key
so the simple keys makes the songs bad ?
No. That is just an expression. Saying something is key is like saying it is exactly what is needed. So sometimes simplicity is perfect.
I cant believe its 2012 already ,melanie jus a memory kinda sad huh!
It was a memory until you dug up this 3 year old thread to mention that. haha
but still a breaker of a song
yuhh it's tight still
Quote from: m1nusblindfoLd on Sep 20, 2008, 07:24 AM
Maybe, but any song off SNW still sucks compared to any other song on any album prior to SNW...and you fucking KNOW it...no matter what anyone says. They just lost it after WP....no room for argument. SNW just doesn't have one ounce of the soul or feeling or vibe of the first 3 albums (also S/T for the most part), and you can't say anything to
Wow this guy's a dick. I like SNW more than WP, in fact I'd put WP second to LAST of all their albums (just barely beating out DE). more than Adrenaline, and some days more than ATF. Don't be a fucking asshole and act like your opinion is any more valid than anyone else. S/T was classic too, some of their best stuff on there and SNW.
I know this was said like 3 years ago but I couldn't help but call this guy out on his douchbaggery..
Quote from: illthrowROCKS@U on Jan 10, 2012, 06:37 PM
Quote from: m1nusblindfoLd on Sep 20, 2008, 07:24 AM
Maybe, but any song off SNW still sucks compared to any other song on any album prior to SNW...and you fucking KNOW it...no matter what anyone says. They just lost it after WP....no room for argument. SNW just doesn't have one ounce of the soul or feeling or vibe of the first 3 albums (also S/T for the most part), and you can't say anything to
Wow this guy's a dick. I like SNW more than WP, in fact I'd put WP second to LAST of all their albums (just barely beating out DE). more than Adrenaline, and some days more than ATF. Don't be a fucking asshole and act like your opinion is any more valid than anyone else. S/T was classic too, some of their best stuff on there and SNW.
I know this was said like 3 years ago but I couldn't help but call this guy out on his douchbaggery..
And to add to your post:
SNW is wayy better than Selftitled. Let's face it Stephen is a good writer but without chino's input, the songs dont sound complete, dont have many melodies. In terms of technical writing and song structures SNW is one of their best. For your info, WP is when Chino started taking more control of the writing process which is basically a repeat on SNW.
In reference of soul and feelings, haha what can I say, the lyrics don't need interpretation, the songs themselves are screaming emotions. Please go back and listen to the record again.
Naw don't get me wrong bro, I love WP and The Boys Republic is quite possibly one of their best songs ever. I just like the other albums better :P My least favorite Deftones album is still better than 80% of all the other shit out there. Part of it is because it's the one everyone knows too, I can be a little contrarian at times.
Lets get serious guys, Adrenaline is the best followed by ATF.
Quote from: Corleone on Jan 11, 2012, 03:52 AM
Lets get serious guys, Adrenaline is the best followed by ATF.
SNW > S/T > ATF > Adrenaline > WP > DE
Adrenaline>ATF>S/T>WP>SNW>Like Linus> B-sides>DE
No!
ATF = S/T > SNW = Diamond Eyes > WP > B-Sides > Adrenaline > Like Linus
ATF is really the album on which Deftones matured, honed, developed and perfected their sound.
On Adrenaline it sounds like they will still very much discovering themselves - it doesn't sound like a fully developed album (don't get me wrong, it's still brilliant as every Deftones album thus far has been)
overall, steph's riffs were very lazy and easy in atf compared to adrenaline. i'd say it was a step back in that area, as a whole - way more cool shit going on in adrenaline
Quote from: pinkmaggit on Jan 12, 2012, 02:36 PM
ATF is really the album on which Deftones matured, honed, developed and perfected their sound.
On Adrenaline it sounds like they will still very much discovering themselves - it doesn't sound like a fully developed album (don't get me wrong, it's still brilliant as every Deftones album thus far has been)
I can't go back to adrenaline, after feeling the difference in production.
I think it should be remastered
Quote from: from_musings on Jan 12, 2012, 03:40 PM
overall, steph's riffs were very lazy and easy in atf compared to adrenaline. i'd say it was a step back in that area, as a whole - way more cool shit going on in adrenaline
I do agree with the drop in complexity of riffs (see: Minus blindfold, Root, Birthmark vs the fairly straightforwardness of MOS, BQAD, Title track). But lyrically and vocally I think they made a giant step forward. Also, of course the production value was much greater in ATF.
ATF, metaphorically speaking is a completed Rubik's Cube. The others aren't finished but still awesome Rubik's Cubes.
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Quote from: pinkmaggit on Jan 12, 2012, 02:36 PM
ATF is really the album on which Deftones matured, honed, developed and perfected their sound.
On Adrenaline it sounds like they will still very much discovering themselves - it doesn't sound like a fully developed album (don't get me wrong, it's still brilliant as every Deftones album thus far has been)
I can't go back to adrenaline, after feeling the difference in production.
I think it should be remastered
i think the production is what gives adrenalin part of its charm. part of its raw sound and edyness. i like it the way it is.
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Quote from: pinkmaggit on Jan 12, 2012, 02:36 PM
ATF is really the album on which Deftones matured, honed, developed and perfected their sound.
On Adrenaline it sounds like they will still very much discovering themselves - it doesn't sound like a fully developed album (don't get me wrong, it's still brilliant as every Deftones album thus far has been)
I can't go back to adrenaline, after feeling the difference in production.
I think it should be remastered
i think the production is what gives adrenalin part of its charm. part of its raw sound and edyness. i like it the way it is.
It's still hard to deny the dramatic improvement lyrically and vocally. Adrenaline is too ambiguous on this matter.
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Quote from: pinkmaggit on Jan 12, 2012, 02:36 PM
ATF is really the album on which Deftones matured, honed, developed and perfected their sound.
On Adrenaline it sounds like they will still very much discovering themselves - it doesn't sound like a fully developed album (don't get me wrong, it's still brilliant as every Deftones album thus far has been)
I can't go back to adrenaline, after feeling the difference in production.
I think it should be remastered
i think the production is what gives adrenalin part of its charm. part of its raw sound and edyness. i like it the way it is.
The rawness and aggression are great but the vocals, I can't listen to them anymore after hearing ATF, WP and SNW. Indeed Chino was young but Terry Date compressed his vocals and its just not that enjoyable anymore.
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Quote from: pinkmaggit on Jan 12, 2012, 02:36 PM
ATF is really the album on which Deftones matured, honed, developed and perfected their sound.
On Adrenaline it sounds like they will still very much discovering themselves - it doesn't sound like a fully developed album (don't get me wrong, it's still brilliant as every Deftones album thus far has been)
I can't go back to adrenaline, after feeling the difference in production.
I think it should be remastered
i think the production is what gives adrenalin part of its charm. part of its raw sound and edyness. i like it the way it is.
The rawness and aggression are great but the vocals, I can't listen to them anymore after hearing ATF, WP and SNW. Indeed Chino was young but Terry Date compressed his vocals and its just not that enjoyable anymore.
Absolutely, it all boils down to which is more important to you.. Lyrics and vocals, or riffs.
And if you're a drumbeat kinda guy, they're all gold. Let's be honest, Abe is clearly the best "musician" of them all. I mean I would take the simplicity of Steph's riffs over some complex Metallica shit any day but.. Damn Abe is just fucking fantastic, everything else is pretty easy to replicate.
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Quote from: pinkmaggit on Jan 12, 2012, 02:36 PM
ATF is really the album on which Deftones matured, honed, developed and perfected their sound.
On Adrenaline it sounds like they will still very much discovering themselves - it doesn't sound like a fully developed album (don't get me wrong, it's still brilliant as every Deftones album thus far has been)
I can't go back to adrenaline, after feeling the difference in production.
I think it should be remastered
i think the production is what gives adrenalin part of its charm. part of its raw sound and edyness. i like it the way it is.
The rawness and aggression are great but the vocals, I can't listen to them anymore after hearing ATF, WP and SNW. Indeed Chino was young but Terry Date compressed his vocals and its just not that enjoyable anymore.
Absolutely, it all boils down to which is more important to you.. Lyrics and vocals, or riffs.
And if you're a drumbeat kinda guy, they're all gold. Let's be honest, Abe is clearly the best "musician" of them all. I mean I would take the simplicity of Steph's riffs over some complex Metallica shit any day but.. Damn Abe is just fucking fantastic, everything else is pretty easy to replicate.
Abe can be way better, I expect more from him Infact, I expect more from Steph because I love listening to riffs in general but I think he's getting a little too comfortable in his "laziness" zone. Some songs are great but they're not like the earlier albums where you'll hear different melodies and riffs. He does change but very little now.
Apparently Steph said he wants to take it to the next level but Abe isn't ready? I think deftones should really "crack the whip" on this new album. They can still go old school and throw their new school elements in. Maybe they cracked it on Eros but let's see
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Quote from: pinkmaggit on Jan 12, 2012, 02:36 PM
ATF is really the album on which Deftones matured, honed, developed and perfected their sound.
On Adrenaline it sounds like they will still very much discovering themselves - it doesn't sound like a fully developed album (don't get me wrong, it's still brilliant as every Deftones album thus far has been)
I can't go back to adrenaline, after feeling the difference in production.
I think it should be remastered
i think the production is what gives adrenalin part of its charm. part of its raw sound and edyness. i like it the way it is.
The rawness and aggression are great but the vocals, I can't listen to them anymore after hearing ATF, WP and SNW. Indeed Chino was young but Terry Date compressed his vocals and its just not that enjoyable anymore.
Absolutely, it all boils down to which is more important to you.. Lyrics and vocals, or riffs.
And if you're a drumbeat kinda guy, they're all gold. Let's be honest, Abe is clearly the best "musician" of them all. I mean I would take the simplicity of Steph's riffs over some complex Metallica shit any day but.. Damn Abe is just fucking fantastic, everything else is pretty easy to replicate.
Cannot replicate Chino. Forgot about him. He is a musician, lol
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Quote from: pinkmaggit on Jan 12, 2012, 02:36 PM
ATF is really the album on which Deftones matured, honed, developed and perfected their sound.
On Adrenaline it sounds like they will still very much discovering themselves - it doesn't sound like a fully developed album (don't get me wrong, it's still brilliant as every Deftones album thus far has been)
I can't go back to adrenaline, after feeling the difference in production.
I think it should be remastered
i think the production is what gives adrenalin part of its charm. part of its raw sound and edyness. i like it the way it is.
The rawness and aggression are great but the vocals, I can't listen to them anymore after hearing ATF, WP and SNW. Indeed Chino was young but Terry Date compressed his vocals and its just not that enjoyable anymore.
Absolutely, it all boils down to which is more important to you.. Lyrics and vocals, or riffs.
And if you're a drumbeat kinda guy, they're all gold. Let's be honest, Abe is clearly the best "musician" of them all. I mean I would take the simplicity of Steph's riffs over some complex Metallica shit any day but.. Damn Abe is just fucking fantastic, everything else is pretty easy to replicate.
Cannot replicate Chino. Forgot about him. He is a musician, lol
I mean instrumentally.
I clicked on this thinking that there would be a link to the studio recording. Wishful thinking, ha..
rt on
yeah, this biatches love to go off topic.
We all go off topic on every thread, not a big deal and prob won't change man. Sorry :-\
Apparently Steph said he wants to take it to the next level but Abe isn't ready? I think deftones should really "crack the whip" on this new album. They can still go old school and throw their new school elements in. Maybe they cracked it on Eros but let's see
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No Stef said he wanted to take it to the next level but Chino wasn't ready, not Abe.
This was said around the time of SNW, I'm not sure if it was just before or just after.
Quote from: pinkmaggit on Jan 23, 2012, 08:55 AM
Apparently Steph said he wants to take it to the next level but Abe isn't ready? I think deftones should really "crack the whip" on this new album. They can still go old school and throw their new school elements in. Maybe they cracked it on Eros but let's see
No Stef said he wanted to take it to the next level but Chino wasn't ready, not Abe.
This was said around the time of SNW, I'm not sure if it was just before or just after.
I was like: "what, Abe is not ready? This cant be right..." but then I read it was about Chino... sound more right to me. lol
Abe is always ready for shit.
Quote from: pinkmaggit on Jan 23, 2012, 08:55 AM
Apparently Steph said he wants to take it to the next level but Abe isn't ready? I think deftones should really "crack the whip" on this new album. They can still go old school and throw their new school elements in. Maybe they cracked it on Eros but let's see
No Stef said he wanted to take it to the next level but Chino wasn't ready, not Abe.
This was said around the time of SNW, I'm not sure if it was just before or just after.
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From the Ultimate guitar interview, and Im just referencing what Steph said, he mentioned that it was the slow poke abe that didn't want to do double bass or play according to his heavy riffs. And there's Chino too