so im starting a thread for bands that were good then inexplicably turned to shit. Im not talking about bands that stuck around too long (im looking at you rolling stones). the idea came to me when i heard an OLD goo goo dolls song on the radio today. I had forgotten that used to actually be decent (surprisingly). another band that i used to like but really gets under my craw is cave in. their first few releases (particulary beyond hypothermia and until your heart stops) were really good. but now they are shit. what are some other bands that started to suck out of nowhere?
deftones. Just kidding!
I used to think Mushroomhead were pretty good. Dunno what happened to them though.
Ones I liked that poofed:
Candlebox lol
Silverchair
Butthole Surfers
Lemonheads
Mighty Mighty Bosstones
Cake
I'm sure ill think of more.
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Quote from: devilinside on Jun 06, 2008, 11:41 PM
Silverchair
Papa roach
Can't remember anymore, but I'm sure there are.
Quote from: devilinside on Jun 06, 2008, 11:41 PM
Butthole Surfers
Lemonheads
Mighty Mighty Bosstones
i totally agree with this
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N.W.H.
(NIGGERS WITH HATS)
greatest rappers of all time
Are those the guy's that did that funny ass rap that ended with "cuz I love u girl" ?
korn
slipknot
deftones definitely fell off you little fan boys i love deftones as much as the next guy but seriously most of the songs on SNW are boring and repetitive and chinos vocals and ideas for his lyrics arent what they used to be
The Deftones have NOT fallen off. They're one of the few bands that has consistently put out solid material. Even S/T, which I thought was really disappointing, is still a great album.
Bands that have fallen off:
Metallica
Korn
Cold
(hed) p.e.
Incubus
Smashing Pumpkins
Lost Prophets
I'm a little worried about Dredg. Leitmotief and el Cielo are both epic, but CWA was really disappointing. And from what I've heard, their new stuff isn't very exciting.
Lostprophets definitely - thefakesoundofprogress was an awesome album. Saw them live about 4 1/2 years ago when Start Something dropped and it was a pretty fucking good show. Then came Liberation Transmission... ¬__¬
Metallica, Coldplay, Incubus, Korn
And i think the new dredg stuff is not what it used to be.
Dredg started botching up their music when they released CWA.
This seems to happen a lot to bands that were good then cross over to the mainstream - as two people have already said Lostprophets is a good example. They just become pedestrian/mediocre after that. My own example, but less mainstream - Weezer. Everything after the Green Album/Maladroit is shat.
metallica for sure
hopefully they come back strong with their new album, but i doubt it. if it's country metal like load & reload it's gonna suckAHHH yeaaaAHHHH
Avenged Sevenfold - they just got too mouthy, too much of a wannabe Guns n Roses and subsequently tacky...
Slipknot
Cold
Glassjaw
coheed and cambria.
their last album partly sounds like a boyband to me
Chris Cornell has totally fallen off, he working woht timberland on his new album and promoting designer jeans!!
Humm...
Limp Bizkit
Slim Shady
Spice Girls
The Strokes
...and you will know us by the trail of dead.
what happened after source tag's and codes fella?
Quote from: Mascara Snake on Jun 09, 2008, 10:42 AM
Chris Cornell has totally fallen off, he working woht timberland on his new album and promoting designer jeans!!
that fucking sucks.
offspring
Quote from: Cod on Jun 09, 2008, 12:33 PM
Humm...
Limp Bizkit
Slim Shady
Spice Girls
The Strokes
Haha.
They always sucked.
Quote from: Mascara Snake on Jun 09, 2008, 10:42 AM
Chris Cornell has totally fallen off, he working woht timberland on his new album and promoting designer jeans!!
money money money monehhh.... MONEH!
Quote from: Cod on Jun 09, 2008, 12:33 PM
Humm...
Limp Bizkit
Slim Shady
Spice Girls
The Strokes
I said bands that fell off, not ones that werent good to begin with ;D
Korn
Metallica
Papa Roach
Nsync!
*cries*
lol
Quote from: Paint Your Lips on Jun 08, 2008, 11:08 AM
Dredg started botching up their music when they released CWA.
Quote from: Mascara Snake on Jun 09, 2008, 10:42 AM
Chris Cornell has totally fallen off, he working woht timberland on his new album and promoting designer jeans!!
man i never see you post anymore. its nice to see you and i hope all is well
incubus
Quote from: goldpony on Jun 09, 2008, 10:55 PM
Quote from: Cod on Jun 09, 2008, 12:33 PM
Humm...
Limp Bizkit
Slim Shady
Spice Girls
The Strokes
I said bands that fell off, not ones that werent good to begin with ;D
see, that's ignorance. and conformist.
3 dollar bill y'all$ is a great fucking album. i don't care what you think about the other albums, i'm not a huge fan either. end of story.
conformity is your enemy!
Quote from: kalhan on Jun 10, 2008, 06:59 AM
Quote from: goldpony on Jun 09, 2008, 10:55 PM
Quote from: Cod on Jun 09, 2008, 12:33 PM
Humm...
Limp Bizkit
Slim Shady
Spice Girls
The Strokes
I said bands that fell off, not ones that werent good to begin with ;D
see, that's ignorance. and conformist.
3 dollar bill y'all$ is a great fucking album. i don't care what you think about the other albums, i'm not a huge fan either. end of story.
conformity is your enemy!
True....
Spice girls on the other hand....
Quote from: Fireal1222 on Jun 10, 2008, 04:16 AM
Quote from: Mascara Snake on Jun 09, 2008, 10:42 AM
Chris Cornell has totally fallen off, he working woht timberland on his new album and promoting designer jeans!!
man i never see you post anymore. its nice to see you and i hope all is well
Yeah im alrite man, I've just been working and stuff, I always have a look on here but to be honest theres not alot on here that interests me anymore.
I feel I should add 36 Crazyfists in here, too. They're one of my favourite bands but their latest album is pretty weak bar about 3 tracks on it :/
Quote from: Mascara Snake on Jun 09, 2008, 10:42 AM
Chris Cornell has totally fallen off, he working woht timberland on his new album and promoting designer jeans!!
maynard's a clothing-line person now, too
Quote from: kalhan on Jun 10, 2008, 06:59 AM
Quote from: goldpony on Jun 09, 2008, 10:55 PM
Quote from: Cod on Jun 09, 2008, 12:33 PM
Humm...
Limp Bizkit
Slim Shady
Spice Girls
The Strokes
I said bands that fell off, not ones that werent good to begin with ;D
see, that's ignorance. and conformist.
3 dollar bill y'all$ is a great fucking album. i don't care what you think about the other albums, i'm not a huge fan either. end of story.
conformity is your enemy!
i dont hate on limp bizkit cause its the cool thing to do, i really never liked them. i have listened to most of the LB albums because i give all bands a chance. I really made that comment in jest, but srsly all those bands were never good to me
Quote from: kalhan on Jun 10, 2008, 06:38 PM
Quote from: Mascara Snake on Jun 09, 2008, 10:42 AM
Chris Cornell has totally fallen off, he working woht timberland on his new album and promoting designer jeans!!
maynard's a clothing-line person now, too
Don't forget Chino too.
Quote from: mr.sinester on Jun 11, 2008, 07:07 AM
Quote from: kalhan on Jun 10, 2008, 06:38 PM
Quote from: Mascara Snake on Jun 09, 2008, 10:42 AM
Chris Cornell has totally fallen off, he working woht timberland on his new album and promoting designer jeans!!
maynard's a clothing-line person now, too
Don't forget Chino too.
chino's a sock person
you know, technically, that means they're selling out...
by definition 'selling out' is 'using music to make money, at which point your music becomes impure'... and since bands can't really NOT sell cds anymore, cd selling is overlooked... even tshirt selling upto a certain extent...
but i remember maynard saying puscifer is "as much a clothing line as it is a band"
fucking sellouts!
Metallica (tough I liked Load,Reload and Garage Inc)
i loved st. anger. it's not old metallica, sure... but it's a good album...
and i'm going to say now what i say to almost all "true" metallica fans... if you want to listen to another kill 'em all, just listen to kill 'em all. it makes more sense...
and load/reload?! come on man...
Quote from: kalhan on Jun 11, 2008, 07:49 AM
i loved st. anger. it's not old metallica, sure... but it's a good album...
and i'm going to say now what i say to almost all "true" metallica fans... if you want to listen to another kill 'em all, just listen to kill 'em all. it makes more sense...
and load/reload?! come on man...
I do like their old stuff from the golden era from 1983 through 1989 and I do like Load and Reload and St Anger is such a shit LOL !! Everyone agrees with that.
Quote from: goldpony on Jun 10, 2008, 07:56 PM
Quote from: kalhan on Jun 10, 2008, 06:59 AM
Quote from: goldpony on Jun 09, 2008, 10:55 PM
Quote from: Cod on Jun 09, 2008, 12:33 PM
Humm...
Limp Bizkit
Slim Shady
Spice Girls
The Strokes
I said bands that fell off, not ones that werent good to begin with ;D
see, that's ignorance. and conformist.
3 dollar bill y'all$ is a great fucking album. i don't care what you think about the other albums, i'm not a huge fan either. end of story.
conformity is your enemy!
i dont hate on limp bizkit cause its the cool thing to do, i really never liked them. i have listened to most of the LB albums because i give all bands a chance. I really made that comment in jest, but srsly all those bands were never good to me
I have to say I agree. all those, except for Spice Girls, are some of my own most hated bands ever.
Red Hot Chili Peppers
spice boys
how the hell did red hot chili peppers fall off?
by the way wasn't typical rhcp, true (was still great imo, but whatever) ... but stadium arcadium? what's wrong with that?
i think it's terribly mediocre and uninspired. definitely their weakest effort.
i'm not a fan at all of their newer albums. i only really enjoy Mother's Milk and Blood, Sugar, Sex, Magik.
actually, the reason by the way "sucked" was because they were way too inspired at the time (so to speak)
cabron because of guitar work inspired by siouxsie and the banshees (frusciante) and mexican folk music (keidis)
dozed, also contains guitar work inspired by siouxsie and the banshees for frusciante
by the way by velvet underground's music
throw away your television because frusciante was again, inspired by kraftwerk
that's all i can remember off the top of my head.
i think i get the point there anyway, if you do enjoy mothers' milk, then it's natural for you to dislike the chili peppers... that was a forced effort from their side, not by the way. what's missing in btw is flea... i can't hear him.
atreyu
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Jun 12, 2008, 08:13 AM
i think it's terribly mediocre and uninspired. definitely their weakest effort.
i'm not a fan at all of their newer albums. i only really enjoy Mother's Milk and Blood, Sugar, Sex, Magik.
Blood Sugar Sex Magic was their best album...I still have the cd from when it came out when I was in middle school...many...MANY years ago. haha
System of a Down (though I still like)
^ Oooh I have to second SOAD there, too.
I used to worship them in my early teens and even though there are some killer tracks on Mez/Hyp [BYOB, Question!, Dreaming etc.]... it's just not the same listening to those guys anymore. I had hours of live videos of them on my old computer with all their face paint on and their "we don't give a shit what a single person thinks" attitude about em. When I finally saw them live in 2005 for the Mezmerize tour, they all had suits on and shit and they didn't have much stage presence at all compared to back in the day.
Of course at the time it was the shit cos they were my favourite band and all and I was like 15/16, but looking back, those guys could've done a whole lot better IMO. That's not to say I want another self titled or Toxicity-esque album, I just feel they lost their touch a little.
system of a down i liked, their first three albums were nice, although i dislike toxicity because some tracks there have really crappy tunes (jet pilot) and if you listen to "toxicity" and "chop suey" as much as i have, you'll begin to loathe them. just like pop songs.
there are some tracks off these three albums that are extremely under-rated and ones i listen to till date (darts, know, soil, war)
they killed it with hypnotize/mezmerize... they should've stopped two albums ago, they did write a few good tunes on these albums but it was just formulated crap, scream here, loud riff here, out of key shriek there.
system of a down is a band that did fall off
Quote from: theshadeisatool on Jun 08, 2008, 11:52 AM
This seems to happen a lot to bands that were good then cross over to the mainstream - as two people have already said Lostprophets is a good example. They just become pedestrian/mediocre after that. My own example, but less mainstream - Weezer. Everything after the Green Album/Maladroit is shat.
weezer has always been mainstream. i was 13-14 when the blue album came out and i remember buddy holly getting MAJOR radio and mtv airplay.
i think in the cases of bands like deftones and weezer, they dont fall off. they just set a bar so high for themselves early in their careers that it is impossible to reach again. weezer's blue album and pinkerton and deftones adrenaline, ATF, and white pony are as close to perfection as any band can get. now all the fans want another pinkerton or ATF and it's never going to fucking happen.
with bands that have reached perfection at some point early in their careers, i find it's best to just appreciate that your beloved bands are still around and even though their new shit isn't half as good as it once was, be greatful that they still show occasional moments of brilliance and continue to TOUR!
songs like the angel and the one, or kimdracula are still better than 99% of the feces thrown at us on a daily basis by the record industry monkeys nowdays. i guess i'm content with that.
in the end, it's just a matter of conforming to musical standards set by your record label
record labels pressurize their artists to write something more contemporary so they'll have a wider audience and more record sales. that happened when white pony went platinum, till then maverick wouldn't bug them to put out records real quick. but it happened after white pony, why do you think "back to school" was even written? it's by far the worst deftones song, and co-incidentally it was meant to reach mtv and radio channels. i can put money on the fact that deftones would've preferred white pony being less successful than it was, even thought they made a lot of money.
same goes for all bands that do "fall off"... record label pressure... think about metallica now. success is your enemy.
Sevendust, but i'm hoping to see a sort of comeback with the return of the origional guitarist.
Quote from: BLUMPKIN on Jun 15, 2008, 03:52 AM
Quote from: theshadeisatool on Jun 08, 2008, 11:52 AM
This seems to happen a lot to bands that were good then cross over to the mainstream - as two people have already said Lostprophets is a good example. They just become pedestrian/mediocre after that. My own example, but less mainstream - Weezer. Everything after the Green Album/Maladroit is shat.
weezer has always been mainstream. i was 13-14 when the blue album came out and i remember buddy holly getting MAJOR radio and mtv airplay.
i think in the cases of bands like deftones and weezer, they dont fall off. they just set a bar so high for themselves early in their careers that it is impossible to reach again. weezer's blue album and pinkerton and deftones adrenaline, ATF, and white pony are as close to perfection as any band can get. now all the fans want another pinkerton or ATF and it's never going to fucking happen.
with bands that have reached perfection at some point early in their careers, i find it's best to just appreciate that your beloved bands are still around and even though their new shit isn't half as good as it once was, be greatful that they still show occasional moments of brilliance and continue to TOUR!
songs like the angel and the one, or kimdracula are still better than 99% of the feces thrown at us on a daily basis by the record industry monkeys nowdays. i guess i'm content with that.
there is truth to found in this post. I never thought weezer or the tones fell off, even though the material wasn't up to peak standards, they still released music they wanted too.
ole ronnie dobbs knows a thing or to, tool fell off long ago
U2
Coldplay
ect
No Doubt-a tragic tragic shame...but supposedly they're reuniting to do it again old school
Korn- I think the nuts carving their name in their chests jinxed them
Smashing Pumpkins-their last album made me sad
And what the fuck happened to Save Ferris? I loved their cover of C'mon Eileen
A Crow Left of the Murder blew and Light Grenades is ok at best and why does Brandon sing like he wants to be in Hoobastank? Fuck that.
Clint Lowery is back in SevenDust-saw them this summer...
Quote from: ALightOn on Oct 15, 2008, 11:29 PM
A Crow Left of the Murder blew and Light Grenades is ok at best and why does Brandon sing like he wants to be in Hoobastank? Fuck that.
Clint Lowery is back in SevenDust-saw them this summer...
Personally I would love to hear Incubus bring back tha funk. But they lost Alex. So that will never happen again.
Boyd still is a great lyricist though. And Mike Enzinger remains one of my favorite guitarists.
Quote from: ronnie dobbs on Jun 17, 2008, 08:36 PM
ole ronnie dobbs knows a thing or to, tool fell off long ago
I'd disagree. I always had the feeling with TOOL that they've always got something in reserve that's better than anything they've ever done. 10,000 Days is up there with everything else they've done in my eyes.
there was progression up until lateralus. i guess it's hard to top a masterpiece though..
10000 days wasnt a step forward like the past albums, i think they've become complacent with the state of their music.
Nah, it wasn't a step forward, you're right. I just see it as a different shade. It has a different feeling to Lateralus and that's cool with me. A side step is just as good as a forward one.
the pot is awesome though
Quote from: ToneDef on Oct 16, 2008, 01:24 AM
Quote from: ronnie dobbs on Jun 17, 2008, 08:36 PM
ole ronnie dobbs knows a thing or to, tool fell off long ago
I hope your not saying they started to suck before they released their best album, Lateralus.
Quote from: lithium on Oct 16, 2008, 01:33 AM
there was progression up until lateralus. i guess it's hard to top a masterpiece though..
10000 days wasnt a step forward like the past albums, i think they've become complacent with the state of their music.
I guess you are quite right there. But I think 10,000 days is still a masterpiece.
Tool is just such a good great band, but they didn't realy brought anything new with 10,000 days.
I never said Tool sucked, but Lateralus and 10,000 days, outside of a few songs didn't do much for me.
Not only that but their live shows have been really boring the last 10 years.
Quote from: ronnie dobbs on Oct 16, 2008, 04:29 PM
I never said Tool sucked, but Lateralus and 10,000 days, outside of a few songs didn't do much for me.
Not only that but their live shows have been really boring the last 10 years.
was that meant to be ironical..?
i mean, yeah, haha i got the joke
No irony here, I am a fan of tool, but their last two albums bored me.
Maybe I have seen too many shows, but Maynard hiding in the shadows while Adam stands still like a manequin is hardly an exciting concert.
I know, it's all about the music when you see tool live, but if I wanted to close my eyes and concentrate on the music, I would put there CD in my surround sound and rattle the walls. I could give a shit about the laser show they put on.
Quote from: ronnie dobbs on Oct 16, 2008, 04:46 PM
No irony here, I am a fan of tool, but their last two albums bored me.
Maybe I have seen too many shows, but Maynard hiding in the shadows while Adam stands still like a manequin is hardly an exciting concert.
I know, it's all about the music when you see tool live, but if I wanted to close my eyes and concentrate on the music, I would put there CD in my surround sound and rattle the walls. I could give a shit about the laser show they put on.
+1, i too was bored by laterlus and 10000 days. good albums, to be sure, but a lot of the songs could have been cut down a couple minutes. it seemed like overindulgence on the part of adam a lot of the time.
Tool's albums consist of 10% good songs and 90% filler noise.
Quote from: ronnie dobbs on Oct 16, 2008, 04:46 PM
No irony here, I am a fan of tool, but their last two albums bored me.
Maybe I have seen too many shows, but Maynard hiding in the shadows while Adam stands still like a manequin is hardly an exciting concert.
I know, it's all about the music when you see tool live, but if I wanted to close my eyes and concentrate on the music, I would put there CD in my surround sound and rattle the walls. I could give a shit about the laser show they put on.
I can understand that. Personally, I love TOOL live. The whole show is great.
I don't get you guys.
Lateralus is one of my favourite albums, ever.
And, yes, 10000 Days is weaker, but Lateralus is, in my opinion, their best.
lateralus is pure perfection
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Oct 16, 2008, 11:09 PM
Tool's albums consist of 10% good songs and 90% filler noise.
HAHA! Sooo true! Their songs are way too long for my taste.
Quote from: ronnie dobbs on Oct 16, 2008, 04:46 PM
No irony here, I am a fan of tool, but their last two albums bored me.
Maybe I have seen too many shows, but Maynard hiding in the shadows while Adam stands still like a manequin is hardly an exciting concert.
I know, it's all about the music when you see tool live, but if I wanted to close my eyes and concentrate on the music, I would put there CD in my surround sound and rattle the walls. I could give a shit about the laser show they put on.
thank you for god's sake thank you.
ive argued this to soooo many tool occult and they are blinded indefinitely.
praise.
Quote from: goldpony on Jun 17, 2008, 08:24 PM
Quote from: BLUMPKIN on Jun 15, 2008, 03:52 AM
Quote from: theshadeisatool on Jun 08, 2008, 11:52 AM
This seems to happen a lot to bands that were good then cross over to the mainstream - as two people have already said Lostprophets is a good example. They just become pedestrian/mediocre after that. My own example, but less mainstream - Weezer. Everything after the Green Album/Maladroit is shat.
weezer has always been mainstream. i was 13-14 when the blue album came out and i remember buddy holly getting MAJOR radio and mtv airplay.
i think in the cases of bands like deftones and weezer, they dont fall off. they just set a bar so high for themselves early in their careers that it is impossible to reach again. weezer's blue album and pinkerton and deftones adrenaline, ATF, and white pony are as close to perfection as any band can get. now all the fans want another pinkerton or ATF and it's never going to fucking happen.
with bands that have reached perfection at some point early in their careers, i find it's best to just appreciate that your beloved bands are still around and even though their new shit isn't half as good as it once was, be greatful that they still show occasional moments of brilliance and continue to TOUR!
songs like the angel and the one, or kimdracula are still better than 99% of the feces thrown at us on a daily basis by the record industry monkeys nowdays. i guess i'm content with that.
there is truth to found in this post. I never thought weezer or the tones fell off, even though the material wasn't up to peak standards, they still released music they wanted too.
Everything Weezer has released in this decade ranges from mediocre to terrible. Not the case w/ Deftones. They've stayed good.
Nada Surf has been boring since "Let Go."
Cypress Hill -- are they still putting out records?
Jimmy Eat World -- sucktastic
Flaming Lips -- their last album has me scared
Oasis -- seriously, guys, stop...
Mogwai -- god love 'em, they've been inconsistent in recent years
And last but not least, Radiohead -- everything since Pablo, Honey has been absolute garbage! Every song should be like Creep.
I liked Tool in middle school. Then I turned off the radio when I discovered something called the internet and found out there was good and interesting music in the world.
^ haha.
red hot chili peppers is a band that REALLY felt off.
anything up to "mother's milk" was pretty damn good. it was all downhill from there.
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Oct 23, 2008, 11:01 AM
^ haha.
red hot chili peppers is a band that REALLY felt off.
anything up to "mother's milk" was pretty damn good. it was all downhill from there.
Hmm.. I would say after Blood Sugar the quality went down. Californication is a good CD though.
Yeah...I LOVE BSSM.
more than 70% of those bands fell off
i think TOOL has only gotten better. i love the long progressive songs. i do think there is too much filler inbetween songs tough.
i definitly agree about the red hot chili peppers. anymore they write nothing but poppy radio hits. and even when i think they have a good song (can't stop, hey oh, dani california) they ruin it with a gay ass chorus.