I think he does. I have a major paper due in 2 hours that I haven't finished. I have another due later on today that I finished and one due tomorrow that I finished. It's snowing right now. I think God is fucking with me. He's trying to get my hopes up that my school will be closed and my paper would be due on friday. Fuck that guy.
hail satan!
he wont do u wrong
u guys are nuts
but of course god exists.
As a scientist I can't really go by faith on anything.
So the answer is: no
Quote from: Fireal1222 on Dec 05, 2007, 07:42 AM
u guys are nuts
but of course god exists.
oh yeah, you saw him in the toilet once...right?
of course. God is Trent Reznor!
Now you know!
hi!
Quote from: White Wrist on Dec 05, 2007, 07:36 PM
of course. God is Trent Reznor!
Now you know!
whoooooooooo!!!!!!!! ;D
god does not exist, and i don't understand how anyone with half a brain can believe in any religion, i mean really believe. Living by their rules is allright though.
if i were to worship anything, it would be the sun. Peace!
i'm a fan of the buddha...
the miniature one, though...
the one that's covered in hair.
(http://images.usatoday.com/life/_photos/2004/07/09/inside1-anchorman.jpg)
Quote from: Crazylegs on Dec 05, 2007, 09:03 PM
god does not exist, and i don't understand how anyone with half a brain can believe in any religion, i mean really believe. Living by their rules is allright though.
if i were to worship anything, it would be the sun. Peace!
there are many (good) reasons to believe that god exists. u cant say that those people have no brain coz actually they have good arguments.
hand the arguments over
Quote from: Nailec on Dec 05, 2007, 10:37 PM
Quote from: Crazylegs on Dec 05, 2007, 09:03 PM
god does not exist, and i don't understand how anyone with half a brain can believe in any religion, i mean really believe. Living by their rules is allright though.
if i were to worship anything, it would be the sun. Peace!
there are many (good) reasons to believe that god exists. u cant say that those people have no brain coz actually they have good arguments.
All arguments towards the belief of "God" ultimately fall into philosophy and metaphysics. Two areas that are not really possible to be tested scientifically. Thus, there is no true way of arguing for the existence of "God" in a rational way.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existence_of_God#Arguments_for_the_existence_of_God
i never thought of that on my own. not enough time/ better things to do.
ath the moment im fine in believing in god.
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Dec 05, 2007, 11:17 PM
Quote from: Nailec on Dec 05, 2007, 10:37 PM
Quote from: Crazylegs on Dec 05, 2007, 09:03 PM
god does not exist, and i don't understand how anyone with half a brain can believe in any religion, i mean really believe. Living by their rules is allright though.
if i were to worship anything, it would be the sun. Peace!
there are many (good) reasons to believe that god exists. u cant say that those people have no brain coz actually they have good arguments.
All arguments towards the belief of "God" ultimately fall into philosophy and metaphysics. Two areas that are not really possible to be tested scientifically. Thus, there is no true way of arguing for the existence of "God" in a rational way.
i dont think its right to say philosophy isnt rational. its all about arguments an logic. just not of the basis of experiments etc.
this seems the only way to handle the topic "god" as you cant prove it scientificall like you said.
but also. there seem to be a lot of good reasons against his existance
This wasn't supposed to be a serious topic.
we turned it into one. Be happy, we polished your poop
I'm locking it.
Quote from: untz untz untz on Dec 06, 2007, 04:02 AM
I'm locking it.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
lets just say god DID exist, but he got hit by an asteroid made of kryptonite
his one weeknesss
and that spider-doo is a reincarnated jesus
Quote from: Atomic on Dec 06, 2007, 05:32 AM
Quote from: untz untz untz on Dec 06, 2007, 04:02 AM
I'm locking it.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
lets just say god DID exist, but he got hit by an asteroid made of kryptonite
his one weeknesss
and that spider-doo is a reincarnated jesus
Reenact your avatar.
Quote from: Nailec on Dec 05, 2007, 11:17 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existence_of_God#Arguments_for_the_existence_of_God
i never thought of that on my own. not enough time/ better things to do.
ath the moment im fine in believing in god.
referencing WIkipedia is not the greatest of ideas
If god Really exist...Fuck Him xD
and then he'd probably fuck you
Quote from: Jambi on Dec 06, 2007, 07:01 PM
Quote from: Nailec on Dec 05, 2007, 11:17 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existence_of_God#Arguments_for_the_existence_of_God
i never thought of that on my own. not enough time/ better things to do.
ath the moment im fine in believing in god.
referencing WIkipedia is not the greatest of ideas
no its not the greatest. but its a fast and good idea.
Quote from: untz untz untz on Dec 06, 2007, 06:35 AM
Quote from: Atomic on Dec 06, 2007, 05:32 AM
Quote from: untz untz untz on Dec 06, 2007, 04:02 AM
I'm locking it.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
lets just say god DID exist, but he got hit by an asteroid made of kryptonite
his one weeknesss
and that spider-doo is a reincarnated jesus
Reenact your avatar.
haha
Quote from: rainnyx4 on Dec 05, 2007, 07:20 PM
As a scientist I can't really go by faith on anything.
So the answer is: no
Um, i'm a scientist too, and i believe in God. science can't explain everything man. in fact some great scientists believe in God
As for crazylegs' comment, i have more than half a brain and i believe. to paraphrase marge simpson: if you can't make a leap of faith sometimes, i feel sorry for you
I'm not trying to be offensive or anything, but to me believing in a god is like believing fairy tales. There is no proof whatsoever of any gods existence.
Quote from: Crazylegs on Dec 08, 2007, 01:16 AM
I'm not trying to be offensive or anything, but to me believing in a god is like believing fairy tales. There is no proof whatsoever of any gods existence.
see the marge simpson quote i posted. besides, theres also no proof God doesn't exist.
There's no proof that there isn't a marshmallow man with a machine gun living on jupiter either. Know what i mean? That argument pretty much says that whatever you can think of exists.
prove to me that a marshmallow man with a machine gun doesnt live on jupiter...jk
i was just trying to point out the flimsyness of your argument about no proof for God. i just think there are too many things that can't be explained and i just feel that a higher power exists...whatever that may be, i call it God.
Quote from: goldpony on Dec 08, 2007, 01:43 AM
Quote from: Crazylegs on Dec 08, 2007, 01:16 AM
I'm not trying to be offensive or anything, but to me believing in a god is like believing fairy tales. There is no proof whatsoever of any gods existence.
see the marge simpson quote i posted. besides, theres also no proof God doesn't exist.
It is a fundamental rule that you cannot prove a negative.
Quote from: goldpony on Dec 08, 2007, 02:32 AM
prove to me that a marshmallow man with a machine gun doesnt live on jupiter...jk
i was just trying to point out the flimsyness of your argument about no proof for God. i just think there are too many things that can't be explained and i just feel that a higher power exists...whatever that may be, i call it God.
I'm with you on everything except calling it God. that's where I draw the line. I'm sure there is more to this world than we know or think we know or whatever. there's something beyond science. maybe not a purpose. or something that would simply explain it all. but there's definitely something. I refuse to say I believe in a God in army form though.
what I might believe in is a creator race...
Quote from: untz untz untz on Dec 06, 2007, 06:35 AM
Quote from: Atomic on Dec 06, 2007, 05:32 AM
Quote from: untz untz untz on Dec 06, 2007, 04:02 AM
I'm locking it.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
lets just say god DID exist, but he got hit by an asteroid made of kryptonite
his one weeknesss
and that spider-doo is a reincarnated jesus
Reenact your avatar.
;D
ROBIN IS BATMAN AND THE GREEN LANTERN'S LOVECHILD!!!
Quote from: goldpony on Dec 08, 2007, 02:32 AM
prove to me that a marshmallow man with a machine gun doesnt live on jupiter...jk
i was just trying to point out the flimsyness of your argument about no proof for God. i just think there are too many things that can't be explained and i just feel that a higher power exists...whatever that may be, i call it God.
that i can respect.
God is what you make it.
playdough?
i h8 all religions
i even h8 ppl who say their atheist
theres no such thing as atheism coz theres no such thing as religion to begin with so to call yorself sumthing to prove sumthing duznt exist is idiotic
religion is pure idiocy
were all idiots >:(
Quote from: Atomic on Dec 09, 2007, 11:54 AM
were all idiots >:(
There's some truth right there, but "I am" was what you were searching for, not "We are"...
Anyway, good attempt, you're getting close to making some sense...
its obvious i am an idiot
religious ppl are also idiots
so fuck u south park jesus!
wow, you are definitely the biggest tool on this board.
Haha, this thread is stupid.
didn't you start this thread?
the one and only true god...
raptor jesus!
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/universepeople/fourfingers.gif)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y153/amsonerd/LastSupperWithRJ.jpg)
hahaha
HAHAHAAA ;D
...it confuzes me, but wot duznt these days
::) look. If you are going to try to be funny at leat try something original. Go get a new name and try again
me?
come on, lighten up...
that was pretty funny.
no, that sucked.
raptor jesus Was funny til he got crucified
Quote from: Azwethinkweiz on Dec 22, 2007, 03:11 PM
me?
come on, lighten up...
that was pretty funny.
no not you, atomic
i'm so popular :D
yeah we are all amazed at the fact that you know how to turn a computer on.
i'm talented too ;D
I wasn't aware that using 1% of your brain was considered to be a talent
well it is for somone who can hold a spoon without exploding
so what happened to talking about god? Did we decide yay or nay on him
i watched some awesome simulation of the universe some days ago.
all those galaxys together just looked like those connections in a human brain.
i concluded, were just some rdiculus atom of this brain thing that is god.
eww were in his brain!
Quote from: Nailec on Dec 24, 2007, 09:00 PM
i watched some awesome simulation of the universe some days ago.
all those galaxys together just looked like those connections in a human brain.
i concluded, were just some rdiculus atom of this brain thing that is god.
That is pretty much a line from animal house
Quote from: Variable on Dec 24, 2007, 06:41 PM
so what happened to talking about god? Did we decide yay or nay on him
Hail Satan!
well if you believe in satan I guess you believe in god.
thats one vote for god from the kid who drools on himself
i do not believe in god
i say "Hail Satan" coz i h8 christians so much
Quote from: Variable on Dec 25, 2007, 01:01 PM
Quote from: Nailec on Dec 24, 2007, 09:00 PM
i watched some awesome simulation of the universe some days ago.
all those galaxys together just looked like those connections in a human brain.
i concluded, were just some rdiculus atom of this brain thing that is god.
That is pretty much a line from animal house
woz that?
Quote from: Atomic on Dec 25, 2007, 02:14 PM
i do not believe in god
i say "Hail Satan" coz i h8 christians so much
so all christians are the same for you?
i havnt met any i havnt hated yet
Quote from: Atomic on Dec 26, 2007, 04:22 AM
i havnt met any i havnt hated yet
u dont hate me do you? :)
are you flirting with atomic?
Quote from: goldpony on Dec 26, 2007, 10:41 PM
Quote from: Atomic on Dec 26, 2007, 04:22 AM
i havnt met any i havnt hated yet
u dont hate me do you? :)
i dont
i'm a bit schizophrenic
i dont even remember saying "i h8 christians"
Quote from: Variable on Dec 27, 2007, 08:07 AM
are you flirting with atomic?
jealous? ;)
oh yeah baby. I want all 1.5 in of that long hard cock ::)
i hav 15 cocks? YAY ;D
only when they're running a train on you.
Quote from: Atomic on Dec 27, 2007, 12:38 PM
i hav 15 cocks? YAY ;D
I bet the 2nd grade is kicking your ass hu?
Quote from: blondie on Dec 27, 2007, 12:40 PM
only when they're running a train on you.
"pure wisdom"
"respect"
Quote from: Variable on Dec 27, 2007, 12:41 PM
Quote from: Atomic on Dec 27, 2007, 12:38 PM
i hav 15 cocks? YAY ;D
I bet the 2nd grade is kicking your ass hu?
Quote from: blondie on Dec 27, 2007, 12:40 PM
only when they're running a train on you.
i'm not smart enuff to know wot either of u are talking about :(
you dont say
lol i do say ;D
Quote from: Variable on Dec 27, 2007, 08:07 AM
are you flirting with atomic?
i find prepubescent boys irresisitable :D same with sailors...
you seem to like seamen
wow...
Quote from: Atomic on Dec 28, 2007, 11:19 AM
Quote from: goldpony on Dec 27, 2007, 07:53 PM
prepubescent
explain :(
It means that you dont have hair on your nuts and you talk like a girl
ahh yes, nvm then
Quote from: Variable on Dec 28, 2007, 05:57 AM
you seem to like seamen
not as much as you like semen, seaman ;D
respect
pure wisdom
that was like totally pure wisdom
respect bro
respect
pure wisdom
respect wisdom
pure respect
wisdom pure
respect pure
wisdom respect
pure shit
god that was like wisdom poetry
Respect, wise one.
the force is strong in me it is
teach u i shall
shove head up yor ass u must
the power within u seek
hey look its, slowda
thats mamma luigi to u
Everyone believes that there's a God (to be God, by definition, is to have all believe in you). If everyone did not, everyone would commit suicide. Everyone is a believer. "No" is just a funny way of saying "yes." God is like the jock who rapes the drugged girl at some shit facing party. We're all that drugged girl; God rapes our beliefs without consent.
....no
Quote from: Starz on Jan 06, 2009, 09:24 PM
Everyone believes that there's a God (to be God, by definition, is to have all believe in you). If everyone did not, everyone would commit suicide. Everyone is a believer. "No" is just a funny way of saying "yes." God is like the jock who rapes the drugged girl at some shit facing party. We're all that drugged girl; God rapes our beliefs without consent.
...what?
What? No?
there can be only one:
(http://dinosaurfanfiction.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/raptor-jesus.jpg)
(http://www.g0tr00t.co.uk/RaptorJesus/RaptorJesus04.jpg)
(http://gameon.freedomblogging.com/files/2007/04/raptorjesus-36752.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/whereinchicago/Misc/Funny/Jesus/RaptorJesus02.jpg)
(http://users.rcn.com/rnlflagg/raptorjesus.jpg)
(http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8128/raptorair8zu.jpg)
(http://www.every-little-thing.com/images/raptorjesus-baby.gif)
HAIL!
LOL that is quite funny but there is no real distinction between science and religion. It's FINE to engage in the abstract. Some people call it "God" while others call it the "electron cloud." The inspiration and dumb luck which produces most of our scientific hypotheses is not itself "scientific" or "rational" but "illogical," "abstract," and largely due to all of our dumb friends saying stupid shit, perhaps being poets, that we happen to include in our mental calculations. But reasoning that God is illogical because you have an illogical feeling is just the same kind of justification a religious person gives when they say God is logical based on their illogical feelings (that they can't put into words after you demand they stop with the rhetoric; "God is love"). So I ask you to look at the argument from preference of living style again: you simply don't believe in God because you weren't indoctrinated by religious parents. Indoctrination is not itself bad; it's neutral. Our parents have to tell us something; and that is the impetus for our preferences of living style.
One day you'll meet an overtly religious person who is good and fun to be around, and you'll say, "No, I'm an atheist; I don't have the talent to believe like you." Which just means you weren't given the right ingredients from your childhood upbringing and schooling to let you see where that person is coming from. Why? Because you'll want to respect that person's beliefs. You won't make bad-mouthing childish comments like Dawkins, trivializing something which is so dear to your friend. (How can you hold this person accountable for the Crusades? This person wouldn't hold you accountable for Stalin. etc etc) And you'll say "talent," just to be nice at first, but then you'll realize that the way you comfort yourself is just as illogical as their religious comforting. That you decide to whack off to scientific literature is not itself scientific; the religious person is just giving their arbitrary source of comfort a name: God.
God is for faggots.
you are god. life is a dream and no other person is real.just a reflection of yourself. so if you dont like another person. you should figure out why and then you see that its actually a trait that you dislike in yourself that they carry.
Quote from: Fireal1222 on Jan 06, 2009, 10:45 PM
you are god. life is a dream and no other person is real.just a reflection of yourself. so if you dont like another person. you should figure out why and then you see that its actually a trait that you dislike in yourself that they carry.
indeed.
God is love and love is real!
haha, some of you need to lay down the drugs.
Quote from: Fireal1222 on Jan 06, 2009, 10:45 PM
you are god. life is a dream and no other person is real.just a reflection of yourself. so if you dont like another person. you should figure out why and then you see that its actually a trait that you dislike in yourself that they carry.
so the reason I hate fat people is because I'm fat? I'm pretty skinny actually.
Quote from: Starz on Jan 06, 2009, 09:56 PM
LOL that is quite funny but there is no real distinction between science and religion. It's FINE to engage in the abstract. Some people call it "God" while others call it the "electron cloud." The inspiration and dumb luck which produces most of our scientific hypotheses is not itself "scientific" or "rational" but "illogical," "abstract," and largely due to all of our dumb friends saying stupid shit, perhaps being poets, that we happen to include in our mental calculations. But reasoning that God is illogical because you have an illogical feeling is just the same kind of justification a religious person gives when they say God is logical based on their illogical feelings (that they can't put into words after you demand they stop with the rhetoric; "God is love"). So I ask you to look at the argument from preference of living style again: you simply don't believe in God because you weren't indoctrinated by religious parents. Indoctrination is not itself bad; it's neutral. Our parents have to tell us something; and that is the impetus for our preferences of living style.
One day you'll meet an overtly religious person who is good and fun to be around, and you'll say, "No, I'm an atheist; I don't have the talent to believe like you." Which just means you weren't given the right ingredients from your childhood upbringing and schooling to let you see where that person is coming from. Why? Because you'll want to respect that person's beliefs. You won't make bad-mouthing childish comments like Dawkins, trivializing something which is so dear to your friend. (How can you hold this person accountable for the Crusades? This person wouldn't hold you accountable for Stalin. etc etc) And you'll say "talent," just to be nice at first, but then you'll realize that the way you comfort yourself is just as illogical as their religious comforting. That you decide to whack off to scientific literature is not itself scientific; the religious person is just giving their arbitrary source of comfort a name: God.
there is a very definite line between science and religion. one (science) is real. and the other' (religion) is a shepard created by scared sheep. religion is a crutch for the weak of mind.
and it has nothing to do with upbringing. i was raised with the ingredients (brainwashing) that you were rambling about. i still grew up and made my own choices.
the answer to this thread is:
NO.
Quote from: devlin on Jan 07, 2009, 12:21 PM
Quote from: Starz on Jan 06, 2009, 09:56 PM
LOL that is quite funny but there is no real distinction between science and religion. It's FINE to engage in the abstract. Some people call it "God" while others call it the "electron cloud." The inspiration and dumb luck which produces most of our scientific hypotheses is not itself "scientific" or "rational" but "illogical," "abstract," and largely due to all of our dumb friends saying stupid shit, perhaps being poets, that we happen to include in our mental calculations. But reasoning that God is illogical because you have an illogical feeling is just the same kind of justification a religious person gives when they say God is logical based on their illogical feelings (that they can't put into words after you demand they stop with the rhetoric; "God is love"). So I ask you to look at the argument from preference of living style again: you simply don't believe in God because you weren't indoctrinated by religious parents. Indoctrination is not itself bad; it's neutral. Our parents have to tell us something; and that is the impetus for our preferences of living style.
One day you'll meet an overtly religious person who is good and fun to be around, and you'll say, "No, I'm an atheist; I don't have the talent to believe like you." Which just means you weren't given the right ingredients from your childhood upbringing and schooling to let you see where that person is coming from. Why? Because you'll want to respect that person's beliefs. You won't make bad-mouthing childish comments like Dawkins, trivializing something which is so dear to your friend. (How can you hold this person accountable for the Crusades? This person wouldn't hold you accountable for Stalin. etc etc) And you'll say "talent," just to be nice at first, but then you'll realize that the way you comfort yourself is just as illogical as their religious comforting. That you decide to whack off to scientific literature is not itself scientific; the religious person is just giving their arbitrary source of comfort a name: God.
there is a very definite line between science and religion. one (science) is real. and the other' (religion) is a shepard created by scared sheep. religion is a crutch for the weak of mind.
and it has nothing to do with upbringing. i was raised with the ingredients (brainwashing) that you were rambling about. i still grew up and made my own choices.
But you have given no argument for why anyone should believe that scientists have done a damn thing when, in the first place, their primary motivation is either aesthetic (not interested in public welfare) or monetary (not interested in public welfare). Politics controls science's productivity, and politics is not controlled by scientists. Politics also controls public welfare, where scientists have no serious interest. The few that do, and the one's now realizing the problem of their skills with respect to the public good, are just now starting to speak out...
A story for you: The "forgotten sculpture" refers to an ancient story of a sculptor who, as a young man, builds a magnificent marble statue. In his hurriedness and continued work, his sculpture becomes misplaced or dropped in a bush near his shop. Years later, the sculpture reveals itself to him at his feet as he's entering his shop. Now, he knows that he crafted the object, that it was the expertise of his hands which brought it into existence. However, what he has forgotten is his inspiration, his emotional drive and feelings at the time of chiselling the muscles and fabric of the toga. He has forgotten the meaning behind the statue. He must derive a new meaning from what he sees, what he possesses at the moment. However, what of the emphatic connection he had with it long ago?
This is what "God" is. It is a forgotten concept. And in seeing this, who are we to reject or deny any other person's statue? Who are we to even talk, as if it were important to us, about this man I have described and the emotional complexities he shares with his statue?
When we speak about God, we talk about another man's perfection. There is no "private God"; that said, we must understand how this word "God" and its meaning fits into our language. To reject it by an outward expression of disbelief does nothing to help or hurt this endeavour. Describing yourself as being "of God's people" does just the same. These activities of "defining oneself" do nothing fruitful, nothing worthy of comment.
But I suppose it is the absurdity of human suffering which compels us to act so naïvely, so immaturely.
is anyone even reading all that? christ.
pun intended.
Quote from: Starz on Jan 07, 2009, 05:40 PM
Quote from: devlin on Jan 07, 2009, 12:21 PM
Quote from: Starz on Jan 06, 2009, 09:56 PM
LOL that is quite funny but there is no real distinction between science and religion. It's FINE to engage in the abstract. Some people call it "God" while others call it the "electron cloud." The inspiration and dumb luck which produces most of our scientific hypotheses is not itself "scientific" or "rational" but "illogical," "abstract," and largely due to all of our dumb friends saying stupid shit, perhaps being poets, that we happen to include in our mental calculations. But reasoning that God is illogical because you have an illogical feeling is just the same kind of justification a religious person gives when they say God is logical based on their illogical feelings (that they can't put into words after you demand they stop with the rhetoric; "God is love"). So I ask you to look at the argument from preference of living style again: you simply don't believe in God because you weren't indoctrinated by religious parents. Indoctrination is not itself bad; it's neutral. Our parents have to tell us something; and that is the impetus for our preferences of living style.
One day you'll meet an overtly religious person who is good and fun to be around, and you'll say, "No, I'm an atheist; I don't have the talent to believe like you." Which just means you weren't given the right ingredients from your childhood upbringing and schooling to let you see where that person is coming from. Why? Because you'll want to respect that person's beliefs. You won't make bad-mouthing childish comments like Dawkins, trivializing something which is so dear to your friend. (How can you hold this person accountable for the Crusades? This person wouldn't hold you accountable for Stalin. etc etc) And you'll say "talent," just to be nice at first, but then you'll realize that the way you comfort yourself is just as illogical as their religious comforting. That you decide to whack off to scientific literature is not itself scientific; the religious person is just giving their arbitrary source of comfort a name: God.
there is a very definite line between science and religion. one (science) is real. and the other' (religion) is a shepard created by scared sheep. religion is a crutch for the weak of mind.
and it has nothing to do with upbringing. i was raised with the ingredients (brainwashing) that you were rambling about. i still grew up and made my own choices.
But you have given no argument for why anyone should believe that scientists have done a damn thing when, in the first place, their primary motivation is either aesthetic (not interested in public welfare) or monetary (not interested in public welfare). Politics controls science's productivity, and politics is not controlled by scientists. Politics also controls public welfare, where scientists have no serious interest. The few that do, and the one's now realizing the problem of their skills with respect to the public good, are just now starting to speak out...
A story for you: The "forgotten sculpture" refers to an ancient story of a sculptor who, as a young man, builds a magnificent marble statue. In his hurriedness and continued work, his sculpture becomes misplaced or dropped in a bush near his shop. Years later, the sculpture reveals itself to him at his feet as he's entering his shop. Now, he knows that he crafted the object, that it was the expertise of his hands which brought it into existence. However, what he has forgotten is his inspiration, his emotional drive and feelings at the time of chiselling the muscles and fabric of the toga. He has forgotten the meaning behind the statue. He must derive a new meaning from what he sees, what he possesses at the moment. However, what of the emphatic connection he had with it long ago?
This is what "God" is. It is a forgotten concept. And in seeing this, who are we to reject or deny any other person's statue? Who are we to even talk, as if it were important to us, about this man I have described and the emotional complexities he shares with his statue?
When we speak about God, we talk about another man's perfection. There is no "private God"; that said, we must understand how this word "God" and its meaning fits into our language. To reject it by an outward expression of disbelief does nothing to help or hurt this endeavour. Describing yourself as being "of God's people" does just the same. These activities of "defining oneself" do nothing fruitful, nothing worthy of comment.
But I suppose it is the absurdity of human suffering which compels us to act so naïvely, so immaturely.
science as a whole has no intrest in public welfare. science is about finding answers, solving problems just to know the truth. that being said there are as many scientists working for money as there are working to find a cure for a disease or save natural resources 100% for public welfare and to make the world a better place.
and thank you for story time but i didn't read all that.
i think there is too much that cannot be explaINED TO ENTRIELY RULE OUT THE EXISTENCE OF A HIGHER POWER. sorry about the caps there, i accidentally hit the capslock button
I started studying at new univristy and there's this guy in my group, a religion enthusiast. he fuckin' loves israel, bible bullshit and all the shit. I'm sick of him.
Quote from: whodunit? on Jan 09, 2009, 07:17 AM
I started studying at new univristy and there's this guy in my group, a religion enthusiast. he fuckin' loves israel, bible bullshit and all the shit. I'm sick of him.
you can always put him down with long discussions about the existance of god, and how religion is only a peoples' control measure.
If you believe someone "designed" religion, then you're just as dull-witted as Zionists, Fundamentalists and those who believe, generally, in Chosen Races under Him, those who believe God demarcated a set of concrete objects to which they were and are perpetually given sole ownership. That is, you accept the story of "God-as-Big-Brother," but you voice it in the negative, whereas they voice it in the positive.
I think a large more of "why religion at all" can be explained under a Human line of thought. People follow custom and habit, and this leads them to accept their inferences as valid. Prayer becomes "valid" in a religious sense because of confirmation bias and human ignorance. There's no such thing as "rigorous prayer." Prayer has not been tested in the way scientific hypotheses are tested. But between event of Prayer and event of "receiving an answer," many religious people are satisfied with the communal aspect of religion. Then people will see their prayer actualised, given they give God his "Way" (time frame).
Anyway, we could investigate various aspects of why religion at all. It's purely psychological, but is it because people "like to have explanation"? No. They are not explaining; they are telling a story. It is a "closed explanation" that seeks not to integrate with other explanations. Does this explanation actually eliminate the "void" feeling? Well, we still have to answer why so many other wildly contradictory explanations (scientific perhaps) also eliminate that void feeling, supposing there ever really is one.
But at bottom, religion was not designed by an agent. Here, we agree. Religion cannot be coherently said to be designed by "evolution." So perhaps the psychological answer reduces to evolution; but there's still debate over the status of evolutionary psychology and evolution as the scientific theory. It's a long debate.
Short answer: Why religion? It's part-communal / part-individualistic. We like to tell stories in our community, we each of us. Sometimes our stories delve into metaphysical claims, sometimes they are contrary to science. But even science is sometimes contrary to science. Why this religion as opposed to that? Why all the specific religions? Well, why so many colours in the set? Why are trees brown rather than pink? Seems like the same kind of question to me.
Problem is: God does not do these things. People tell us that these are the things God has done (flooding, divine imperatives).
God doesn't do any of that stuff. People interpret God's actions as having those intents and manifesting in that way.
They call a lightning bolt "Zeus' wrath" whereas I call it an electrical discharge from the Earth's atmosphere. Zeus never existed; God never existed. People who said these things "exist" did exist.
Basically, don't attack God when you should be attacking people who put spin God's actions. "Good" spin, "bad" spin. It's all interpretation, and it's all fucking stupid.
Does God Exist? Hmmm....
Well if by "God" you mean some greater force of energy that the human brain cannot even begin to imagine, and who is responsible for all we know of and don't know of....then yes I would like to think that exists.
Quote from: Starz on Jan 09, 2009, 04:39 PM
If you believe someone "designed" religion, then you're just as dull-witted as Zionists, Fundamentalists and those who believe, generally, in Chosen Races under Him, those who believe God demarcated a set of concrete objects to which they were and are perpetually given sole ownership. That is, you accept the story of "God-as-Big-Brother," but you voice it in the negative, whereas they voice it in the positive.
I think a large more of "why religion at all" can be explained under a Human line of thought. People follow custom and habit, and this leads them to accept their inferences as valid. Prayer becomes "valid" in a religious sense because of confirmation bias and human ignorance. There's no such thing as "rigorous prayer." Prayer has not been tested in the way scientific hypotheses are tested. But between event of Prayer and event of "receiving an answer," many religious people are satisfied with the communal aspect of religion. Then people will see their prayer actualised, given they give God his "Way" (time frame).
Anyway, we could investigate various aspects of why religion at all. It's purely psychological, but is it because people "like to have explanation"? No. They are not explaining; they are telling a story. It is a "closed explanation" that seeks not to integrate with other explanations. Does this explanation actually eliminate the "void" feeling? Well, we still have to answer why so many other wildly contradictory explanations (scientific perhaps) also eliminate that void feeling, supposing there ever really is one.
But at bottom, religion was not designed by an agent. Here, we agree. Religion cannot be coherently said to be designed by "evolution." So perhaps the psychological answer reduces to evolution; but there's still debate over the status of evolutionary psychology and evolution as the scientific theory. It's a long debate.
Short answer: Why religion? It's part-communal / part-individualistic. We like to tell stories in our community, we each of us. Sometimes our stories delve into metaphysical claims, sometimes they are contrary to science. But even science is sometimes contrary to science. Why this religion as opposed to that? Why all the specific religions? Well, why so many colours in the set? Why are trees brown rather than pink? Seems like the same kind of question to me.
Problem is: God does not do these things. People tell us that these are the things God has done (flooding, divine imperatives).
God doesn't do any of that stuff. People interpret God's actions as having those intents and manifesting in that way.
They call a lightning bolt "Zeus' wrath" whereas I call it an electrical discharge from the Earth's atmosphere. Zeus never existed; God never existed. People who said these things "exist" did exist.
Basically, don't attack God when you should be attacking people who put spin God's actions. "Good" spin, "bad" spin. It's all interpretation, and it's all fucking stupid.
holy crap dude, i quit half way through the the first sentece. all i really read was the very end. and aren't all your rants just your interpretaton of god. i mean honestly no one know whats real and whats made up. you may beleive it with every fiber of your being but you dont know, theres no proof, just books and stories. even if your quoting directly from the bible and repeating everything you've been told word for word its still all just interpretations. prophicies told and retold and translated into different languages. as far as we half the bible could have been, im sure was, radically different than what we have today. its the greatest game of whisper down the lane ever. your religion is one big purple monkey dishwasher!
if you belive that you have a soul, then you accept the god existance....
darwin never asked that question....
you can understand the concept of soul in another way than the christian.
i dunno y i posted here. actually i was searching for the beer-thread
Quote from: Shaye on Jan 09, 2009, 08:40 PM
Does God Exist? Hmmm....
Well if by "God" you mean some greater force of energy that the human brain cannot even begin to imagine, and who is responsible for all we know of and don't know of....then yes I would like to think that exists.
thank you much
you just ended this thread
/lock
Quote from: Nailec on Mar 25, 2009, 11:21 PM
you can understand the concept of soul in another way than the christian.
i dunno y i posted here. actually i was searching for the beer-thread
best post ever
Quote from: rock_n_frost on Mar 27, 2009, 05:33 PM
Quote from: Nailec on Mar 25, 2009, 11:21 PM
you can understand the concept of soul in another way than the christian.
i dunno y i posted here. actually i was searching for the beer-thread
best post ever
most people find God when looking for beer
QuoteQuote from: Shaye on Jan 09, 2009, 09:40 AM
Does God Exist? Hmmm....
Well if by "God" you mean some greater force of energy that the human brain cannot even begin to imagine, and who is responsible for all we know of and don't know of....then yes I would like to think that exists.
thank you much
you just ended this thread
/lock
fuckin' eh.
Only god knows if god exist. Everyone else shut up
QuoteOnly god knows if god exist. Everyone else shut up
Hah hah hell yah mon.
wow. Someone who types with an Iyaric accent.
Quote from: penguin in the desert on Dec 05, 2007, 07:23 PM
Quote from: Fireal1222 on Dec 05, 2007, 07:42 AM
u guys are nuts
but of course god exists.
oh yeah, you saw him in the toilet once...right?
LMAO.. i went back and read the first page of this thread and saw something i never noticed b4
theis you sarcastic prick.. i cant believe u remember that mushroom story. i love you
Haha :)
you two make such a cute couple
ewww. thats nasty.
So today at work someone spread a nasty rumor that we were getting either tomorrow or Monday due to work. So I had all these guys BUGGIN the shit out of me to find out if we were getting a day off or not. So all of the sudden everyone gave a shit about Jesus and needed an extra day off to celebrate his resurrection.
So me in my classic tact, went on to explain to them that the reason we don't get a day off for the resurrection of Jesus is because if we did, we would also have to take a day off for the death of super man, The anniversary of Batman and Robin hooking up, and the anniversary of the first episode of Charlie Brown. I then went on to explain that from 1630 on friday to 0730 on monday morning they are allowed to worship any make believe people they choose. But their asses would be in work on both days.
lol, oh man, if looks could kill. That really pissed off some of the genuine Christians I worked with. I'm sleeping with one in the chamber tonight.
sounds like you put the fear of God in 'em.
As far as I'm concerned, I am their god.
Quote from: Variable on Apr 10, 2009, 02:16 AM
So today at work someone spread a nasty rumor that we were getting either tomorrow or Monday due to work. So I had all these guys BUGGIN the shit out of me to find out if we were getting a day off or not. So all of the sudden everyone gave a shit about Jesus and needed an extra day off to celebrate his resurrection.
So me in my classic tact, went on to explain to them that the reason we don't get a day off for the resurrection of Jesus is because if we did, we would also have to take a day off for the death of super man, The anniversary of Batman and Robin hooking up, and the anniversary of the first episode of Charlie Brown. I then went on to explain that from 1630 on friday to 0730 on monday morning they are allowed to worship any make believe people they choose. But their asses would be in work on both days.
lol, oh man, if looks could kill. That really pissed off some of the genuine Christians I worked with. I'm sleeping with one in the chamber tonight.
LOL. thats great man. reminds me of about a year ago when my son was about to start going to school. my girl suggested catholic school. i told her i might as well send him to hogwarts. she wasn't as amused as i was. but thats usually the case, i'm often the only one laughing at my jokes.
If life on Earth is FAR TOO COMPLEX to have spawned from evolution and we were created by a being INFINITELY MORE COMPLEX than us...by that logic our creator had to be created by something more complex than he and so on and so forth.
Bam, evolution wins.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_5zcD7Em8zlo/SY6GNZsMhEI/AAAAAAAAAeY/pfYCnaJ592A/s400/Learn_from_Noahs_Ark.jpg)
Seems likely.
ehhhhhhhh. I mean, I get what you are trying to say there. But that might be a bit of a stretch. There are plenty of reasons to think the major religions of the world are allegory and that evolution is way more than likely truth, without having to stretch into silly philosophical pissing contest.
I can piss further than you.
Oh yeah? Well my dick is bigger than yours.
Quote from: Variable on Apr 15, 2009, 02:34 AM
ehhhhhhhh. I mean, I get what you are trying to say there. But that might be a bit of a stretch. There are plenty of reasons to think the major religions of the world are allegory and that evolution is way more than likely truth, without having to stretch into silly philosophical pissing contest.
Well it's the best we have to offer, and probably the truth. Being a scientist though, I find the religious argument highly infuriating; normally to prove something you provide the evidence in the publication and so forth... but for proving God because the idea is so damn complicated for us we apparently have no way of doing that, so you then can't argue if they're right or wrong. I would love it that if I could send Physical Review Letters a paper with that sort of backing. I mean with the evidence we have nowadays to prove certain things which of course you couldn't have described say 2000 years ago (take solar flares for example), I find it hard to believe why there is so much bullshit like organized religion still floating around. If there was a man with a big white beard watching down, surely the last thing he would want would be an organized hypocritical movement which has stolen most of the worlds assets via rape pillage and burning. Surely if we were going on right and wrong, this guy in the clouds would just want every being good for themselves and the rest of world, I mean he did create Adam and Eve right? Fuck me what a load of bullshit... I think the logic behind it all is bloody hilarious.
are you like a 15 year old that took a biology class and now you think you're a scientist?
Quote from: Variable on Apr 19, 2009, 11:35 PM
are you like a 15 year old that took a biology class and now you think you're a scientist?
I'm a PhD student in theoretical physics, specifying in Soft Matter, so no.
http://www.physics.hull.ac.uk/theory.php
Sorry to dissapoint.
Quote from: Jambi on Apr 20, 2009, 01:09 PM
Quote from: Variable on Apr 19, 2009, 11:35 PM
are you like a 15 year old that took a biology class and now you think you're a scientist?
I'm a PhD student in theoretical physics, specifying in Soft Matter, so no.
http://www.physics.hull.ac.uk/theory.php
Sorry to dissapoint.
Its really no disappointment. I just have a hard time believing that someone who is supposedly a scientist ( or almost one ) would say that a silly philosophical pissing contest was " The best we have to offer " instead of presenting scientific fact based on the scientific method. I don't claim to be an expert of evolution or creation or even science at all. But I know there is a lot better arguments out there. Especially when you went on some lame ass rant that sounded like you did a really bad job ripping off a George Carlin joke.
Are you sure you're not like a freshman in college that told their guidance councilor that you really, really, REALLY wanted to get a PHD in theoretical physics someday? Or do you really just suck that bad? If you are actually one of those PHD students from that site, tell your professors to step it up.
no
Quote from: Variable on Apr 21, 2009, 12:37 AM
Quote from: Jambi on Apr 20, 2009, 01:09 PM
Quote from: Variable on Apr 19, 2009, 11:35 PM
are you like a 15 year old that took a biology class and now you think you're a scientist?
I'm a PhD student in theoretical physics, specifying in Soft Matter, so no.
http://www.physics.hull.ac.uk/theory.php
Sorry to dissapoint.
Its really no disappointment. I just have a hard time believing that someone who is supposedly a scientist ( or almost one ) would say that a silly philosophical pissing contest was " The best we have to offer " instead of presenting scientific fact based on the scientific method. I don't claim to be an expert of evolution or creation or even science at all. But I know there is a lot better arguments out there. Especially when you went on some lame ass rant that sounded like you did a really bad job ripping off a George Carlin joke.
Are you sure you're not like a freshman in college that told their guidance councilor that you really, really, REALLY wanted to get a PHD in theoretical physics someday? Or do you really just suck that bad? If you are actually one of those PHD students from that site, tell your professors to step it up.
wow that was rather harsh.
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Quote from: Variable on Apr 21, 2009, 12:37 AM
Quote from: Jambi on Apr 20, 2009, 01:09 PM
Quote from: Variable on Apr 19, 2009, 11:35 PM
are you like a 15 year old that took a biology class and now you think you're a scientist?
I'm a PhD student in theoretical physics, specifying in Soft Matter, so no.
http://www.physics.hull.ac.uk/theory.php
Sorry to dissapoint.
Its really no disappointment. I just have a hard time believing that someone who is supposedly a scientist ( or almost one ) would say that a silly philosophical pissing contest was " The best we have to offer " instead of presenting scientific fact based on the scientific method. I don't claim to be an expert of evolution or creation or even science at all. But I know there is a lot better arguments out there. Especially when you went on some lame ass rant that sounded like you did a really bad job ripping off a George Carlin joke.
Are you sure you're not like a freshman in college that told their guidance councilor that you really, really, REALLY wanted to get a PHD in theoretical physics someday? Or do you really just suck that bad? If you are actually one of those PHD students from that site, tell your professors to step it up.
You obviously struggle to read, I don't do anything Biological and to comment how I apprently suck at my PhD is none of your business, especially from that vague line I gave on evolution, I would to prove it anyway but it's way out of many people's leagues.. The point I only made was referring to was the shit we have face from people on the other side of the spectrum, I guess you're one of these douchebags. I can't be arsed to argue too much, but I think being invited to talk about my work at Columbia University NY in June at the one of the largest conferences going means I aren't that shit, I know I aren't the best but I work hard.
So just the fuck up, stop being an ass and respect peoples opinions. I hope I don't come across too many people like you when I come over to US, that would be a real shame.
If you were 1/18th as smart as you think you are, you would notice that the first time you quoted me, I made it very obvious that I don't believe in god. Its right there in plain English. LOL but when it comes to black holes, you got us , right?
And please, just to make me feel better about the world, tell me English isnt your first language.
Quote from: Variable on Apr 21, 2009, 02:07 PM
If you were 1/18th as smart as you think you are, you would notice that the first time you quoted me, I made it very obvious that I don't believe in god. Its right there in plain English. LOL but when it comes to black holes, you got us , right?
And please, just to make me feel better about the world, tell me English isnt your first language.
Yes actually, Yorkshire-ish is my first language, you got me there dude. I do love the way that if someone mentions physics it means we have this ultimate knowledge about everything regarding that amazing subject called Black holes, for starters they have never found one but I aren't an expert on this, but if you can go out and find one I'd be damn impressed! If you do want to know more about them though trust me I'd glady point you to some incredibly boring papers full of impossible maths which just go to show what a load of horseshit the black hole idea is (at the moment).
I never said you did believe in God, lol don't jump to conclusions. You do have a habit of changing the arguement from what we were first discussing, lol I have been here long enough to know that you do like to spice everything up on here.
Anyway: http://www.theonion.com/content/news/god_makes_surprise_visit_to_local?utm_source=a-section
Quote from: Jambi on Apr 22, 2009, 09:09 AM
I never said you did believe in God, lol don't jump to conclusions. Quote from: Jambi on Apr 21, 2009, 11:30 AM
The point I only made was referring to was the shit we have face from people on the other side of the spectrum, I guess you're one of these douchebags.
my amino acids came from a comet
mine came from GNC
I believe the tradional "God" is a fairy tale...
If you think about it, what if you were a caveman, your wife or whatever dies. You'd assume you'd die too, therefore why not create a "God" in your head to ease the pain...
Here is a quote that will fuck with your head:
"I think I think therefore I think I am."
Really think it over, you can meditate on that sentance alone.
Dude I try, I really, really try to get that concept and concepts close to it into the heads of some of the guys I work with. But some of them are so fucking stubborn to hold on to their beliefs. I even told one that I would go to church with him on sunday ( although he would have to excuse me if I got drunk first to ease the pain ) But I swear one of them ( a fucking 25 year old grown man ) will actually cover his ears and say " ahhh blasphemy, blasphemy, blasphemy " every time I tactfully try to show some fault of the church and religion. It's ridiculous how some people turn themselves off
Yeah Trey, isn't strange that people who seem to have the most faith are the most fucked up or disconnected to reality?
Quote from: Variable on Apr 23, 2009, 03:28 AM
Dude I try, I really, really try to get that concept and concepts close to it into the heads of some of the guys I work with. But some of them are so fucking stubborn to hold on to their beliefs. I even told one that I would go to church with him on sunday ( although he would have to excuse me if I got drunk first to ease the pain ) But I swear one of them ( a fucking 25 year old grown man ) will actually cover his ears and say " ahhh blasphemy, blasphemy, blasphemy " every time I tactfully try to show some fault of the church and religion. It's ridiculous how some people turn themselves off
that is my biggest problem with religious people. blind faith, refusing to question or doubt. i do not believe in god but i don't know, no body know for sure. i could be wrong and i am willing to admit that, but religious people are just soooo sure. so smug about how they are going to heaven and its going to be awesome, and how they feel bad for me.
Quote from: Variable on Apr 22, 2009, 01:16 PM
Quote from: Jambi on Apr 22, 2009, 09:09 AM
I never said you did believe in God, lol don't jump to conclusions. Quote from: Jambi on Apr 21, 2009, 11:30 AM
The point I only made was referring to was the shit we have face from people on the other side of the spectrum, I guess you're one of these douchebags.
I wasn't necessarily implying religous twats with that since there are other dicks we come across, but that is stupid considering the thread it was in sorry, long day!
Quote from: 13hourstoparadise on Apr 23, 2009, 02:25 AM
I believe the tradional "God" is a fairy tale...
If you think about it, what if you were a caveman, your wife or whatever dies. You'd assume you'd die too, therefore why not create a "God" in your head to ease the pain...
Here is a quote that will fuck with your head:
"I think I think therefore I think I am."
Really think it over, you can meditate on that sentance alone.
"moral interpretation of phenomenon"
Man walks out from the cave, and what does he see...
It's putting reason to the unreasonable. making the absurd rationalized in a fantastical sense. everything we witness (by any perception) is phenomenon, and must be cured by something we don't understand, but claim to "know".
like modern religion, as in christianity (and the adoption of it by Rome), it became a institutionalizing mechanism for civilian control.
Quote from: Variable on Apr 23, 2009, 03:28 AM
Dude I try, I really, really try to get that concept and concepts close to it into the heads of some of the guys I work with. But some of them are so fucking stubborn to hold on to their beliefs. I even told one that I would go to church with him on sunday ( although he would have to excuse me if I got drunk first to ease the pain ) But I swear one of them ( a fucking 25 year old grown man ) will actually cover his ears and say " ahhh blasphemy, blasphemy, blasphemy " every time I tactfully try to show some fault of the church and religion. It's ridiculous how some people turn themselves off
right on. "ignore-ance"
Quote"moral interpretation of phenomenon"
Love it... I might have to bite that sometime.
Quote from: 13hourstoparadise on Apr 23, 2009, 05:18 PM
Quote"moral interpretation of phenomenon"
Love it... I might have to bite that sometime.
don't thank me, thank friedrich nietzsche! ;)
i know i dont have a good english but its interesting....its about the future..theres more more more things like that but i think you should know :
to muslims these gonna happen before apocalpyse :
- more psycos
- more adultery
- mor drink
- more earthquakes ...bla bla bla...
- Dagcal (Antichrist) will come...his right eye is blind...he will be so strong with interesting powers..and he ll say ''im god'' so many people will belive in him...
- Jesus will come and he ll kill dagcal also he will tell the christians to believe in islam..all christian and mulim people will be together...
- a big smoke will be at the world everyone will be like drunk ..
- a very interesting animal will be happen named Dabbetü'l-arz
- the sun will born from the west (everyone will belive and will be regretful but that will not work for them)
Not only does god exist in the form of the trinity as us created in his image, but he is also a living man.
Quote from: Earthman on May 05, 2009, 12:57 AM
Not only does god exist in the form of the trinity as us created in his image, but he is also a living man.
yeah he is mr.sinister
hahahaha, lol at your av ^^
I just now realised it's not that guy:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f1/MK_Scorpion_Cropped.jpg)
hahahaha
god is destroying us all
Jesus loves you all :D
Quote from: Corleone on Jul 15, 2009, 11:41 PM
Jesus loves you all :D
Welcome back dude.
Wait, maybe you're god! Only god can have those boobs on his sign.
want know how I know god isn't real? Because all I do is talk shit about god all day, and I'm still alive. Vengeful and jealous my ass.
*giggles*
Quote from: Variable on Jul 22, 2009, 01:53 AM
want know how I know god isn't real? Because all I do is talk shit about god all day, and I'm still alive.
actually, thats why he let you live
Let hu? God lets me live to test the faith of the true believers. I'm going to make a t shirt that says that
you are talkin about shit here
thats the biggest punishment dude...let you as you are
Quote from: Variable on Jul 22, 2009, 02:12 PM
God lets me live to test the faith of the true believers.
I would sooo buy that shirt! And wear it the day after I wear my Homophobia is Gay shirt.
(http://i26.tinypic.com/ive8gg.png)
its montage...
the true version
(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8290/ive8gg1.jpg)
that makes zero sense
yeah i dont get it either
not a suprise......
the point is that guy has a PENIS damnit
or maybe because the spelling and grammar is fucked up?
yeah, but understandable........i guess
Quote from: Penicks on Jul 22, 2009, 03:30 PM
(http://i26.tinypic.com/ive8gg.png)
That is fuckin' brilliant.
QuoteHomophobia is Gay
hehe. nice one
NO
God is love
I used to believe in God. I would look around at the beautiful world I lived in and wonder how anyone couldn't believe in Him.
Then I moved to New Jersey.
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What most people are concerned with is how "God," whatever the definition, is relevant to their political, ethical, religious, moral, scientific, etc aspirations, beliefs, goals, etc and the theories they have and make within these domains of human discourse.
Quote from: lostpilot on Jan 07, 2009, 12:49 PM
the answer to this thread is:
NO.
still didn't change
Quote from: penguin in the desert on Aug 09, 2009, 02:38 PM
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haha good one. Talking snake is best bit
it's debatable. and that's the proper answer
It's not debateable. You can't debate something that cant be observed or tested. The main issue here is simple. The religions of the past and present are bull shit designed by men to capitalize off peoples fear, ignorance, and confuse their sense of spirituality for control and profit. A lot of people realize that todays religions are bull shit, but they still wont let go of the idea of a God because it has been so instilled into them. Also because they confuse their spirituality ( a sense that all humans obviously have ) with this notion that a god must exist. But just because you have a part of you that is able to recognize things beyond what most humans consider normal, does not mean that a higher being exist. Its an illogical conclusion that is made by so many because its been rammed down your throat since you were a kid. Think for yourself, question authority.
we should go back to worshiping the sun.
you know, after spending 3 weeks exposed to the sun in the mojave desert with no breaks what so ever. I'm pretty much done with the sun.
let's hope it burns out in the next few years. The desert will be a much more comfortable place then.
its fuckin burning here
what bothers me nowadays is that the internet is flooded with creationist-modern-design-whatever-idiots who think they have to tell their point of limited view to everyone everywhere.
it doesnt matter if its an article about black holes, genetic science or the discovery of an extinct animal: if there is a comment section nearby, you will definitely find an unrelated discussion started by some guy who wrote something like "i duz not think thiz iz real cuz i believez in gawd and teh bible tellz uz sumthing different, but its ok if you haz your own opinionz, BYE" and then you have an endless debate about who believes in god and who doesnt and who doesnt give a fuck ....
honestly. i say everyone with common sense should just ignore all this anti-science bullshit, and creationists should stop pronounce their worthless opinions everywhere.
and i dont think taking the bible word for word shows that you believe in god. it just shows that you're a narrow-minded sheep. our society should know better in 2009...
variable, i agree with everything you said except for the first sentence, as we are all clearly debating over 10 pages of posts.
i personally do not believe in "God", I believe that there is something bigger than myself and humans alike. I'd rather not put a name to the blank face.
Quote from: Alvar on Aug 15, 2009, 04:57 PM
what bothers me nowadays is that the internet is flooded with creationist-modern-design-whatever-idiots who think they have to tell their point of limited view to everyone everywhere.
it doesnt matter if its an article about black holes, genetic science or the discovery of an extinct animal: if there is a comment section nearby, you will definitely find an unrelated discussion started by some guy who wrote something like "i duz not think thiz iz real cuz i believez in gawd and teh bible tellz uz sumthing different, but its ok if you haz your own opinionz, BYE" and then you have an endless debate about who believes in god and who doesnt and who doesnt give a fuck ....
honestly. i say everyone with common sense should just ignore all this anti-science bullshit, and creationists should stop pronounce their worthless opinions everywhere.
and i dont think taking the bible word for word shows that you believe in god. it just shows that you're a narrow-minded sheep. our society should know better in 2009...
Some of the most intelligent evolutionists believe in God. How did all these formulas come together.
I don't believe in the biblical God, but I still read the bible regularly. Why? you may ask. Because theres still some good stuff in there.
(Matthew, mark, luke, john, proverbs) Just read some of jesus' teachings... or are you narrow minded.
Thank god for the internet (lol( for I wouldnt be able to sit and spew out blasphemy out of my ass, while looking at some child pron and gambling. Yeah the religion sure has screwed up this world...maybe money))
Quote from: No More Sugar on Aug 19, 2009, 04:09 PM
variable, i agree with everything you said except for the first sentence, as we are all clearly debating over 10 pages of posts.
i personally do not believe in "God", I believe that there is something bigger than myself and humans alike. I'd rather not put a name to the blank face.
I wouldn't really call this thread a debate. Its more of a casual discussion seeing as how pretty much no one is backing up anything with facts. Its all just opinions. Debates are usually more scientific than that.
Quote from: Corleone on Aug 19, 2009, 05:11 PM
Quote from: Alvar on Aug 15, 2009, 04:57 PM
what bothers me nowadays is that the internet is flooded with creationist-modern-design-whatever-idiots who think they have to tell their point of limited view to everyone everywhere.
it doesnt matter if its an article about black holes, genetic science or the discovery of an extinct animal: if there is a comment section nearby, you will definitely find an unrelated discussion started by some guy who wrote something like "i duz not think thiz iz real cuz i believez in gawd and teh bible tellz uz sumthing different, but its ok if you haz your own opinionz, BYE" and then you have an endless debate about who believes in god and who doesnt and who doesnt give a fuck ....
honestly. i say everyone with common sense should just ignore all this anti-science bullshit, and creationists should stop pronounce their worthless opinions everywhere.
and i dont think taking the bible word for word shows that you believe in god. it just shows that you're a narrow-minded sheep. our society should know better in 2009...
Some of the most intelligent evolutionists believe in God. How did all these formulas come together.
I don't believe in the biblical God, but I still read the bible regularly. Why? you may ask. Because theres still some good stuff in there.
(Matthew, mark, luke, john, proverbs) Just read some of jesus' teachings... or are you narrow minded.
Thank god for the internet (lol( for I wouldnt be able to sit and spew out blasphemy out of my ass, while looking at some child pron and gambling. Yeah the religion sure has screwed up this world...maybe money))
Prove to me that some of the most intelligent evolutionist in the world believe in god. Show me proof. Because that sentence is complete bull shit. Its a lie they spread around in church and private schools because no one can really prove it right or wrong. But way to believe the propaganda. Do they get you to tithe too?
I also have an appreciation for a lot of the teachings in the bible. I think its a shame that so much wisdom is surrounded by so much bull shit.
And religion has screwed up the world much worse than any casino, child pornographer, online casino, or really any online function. Just take a step back and think about the magnitude of influence over the centuries that religion has had over societies and civilizations. Even the "religious" fuck, gamble, screw people out of money, and like to jerk off to little kids ( *cough* catholic priest *cough* ) so dont try to point the finger at something else because its convenient.
This thread was obviously made as a joke smart kid
Obviously a bunch of us are bored as fuck and just started talking about it because we can. But not too many people decided to make an observation trying to sound insightful about a statement that was meant to be a joke. Keep em coming, its way more entertaining to watch you suck than it is to talk about god.
That makes sense
I really just have a problem with stupid people. And you seem to keep fitting the profile. I'm perfectly fine with myself. In fact, I'm great with myself.
I think " I know you are what am I? " or "fuck you, you're gay" would have been more original. Did you guidance counselor tell you to say that when the kids were picking on you?
It adds credibility to your shit talking game if you don't throw out random ass insults that have no weight but you actually try to catch me slipping up. Anyone can call anyone stupid. Everyone can see your just reaching.
somebody's angry...
lol yeah. Poor thing
Y u be hatin' negros
does god exist ? = do you have a soul ?
Quote from: bebo on Aug 20, 2009, 04:39 AM
Y u be hatin' negros
DEM BLEKS BE STEELIN MAH TV GOD DAMN IT
Quote from: bebo on Aug 20, 2009, 04:39 AM
Y u be hatin' negros
Because they're black.....duh
Quote from: Variable on Aug 20, 2009, 02:40 AM
lol yeah. Poor thing
you were pretty belligerent yourself
for all of a whole page :/
in whom?
Quote from: Variable on Aug 20, 2009, 12:40 AM
Prove to me that some of the most intelligent evolutionist in the world believe in god. Show me proof. Because that sentence is complete bull shit. Its a lie they spread around in church and private schools because no one can really prove it right or wrong. But way to believe the propaganda. Do they get you to tithe too?
I heard it during a Big Bang documentary.Why are you posting in this thread, we all know you don't believe in god. So good for you? How about you enlist as a mine sweeper.
Quote from: No More Sugar on Aug 20, 2009, 01:23 PMQuote from: Variable on Aug 20, 2009, 02:40 AMlol yeah. Poor thing
you were pretty belligerent yourself
Quote from: Vesanic on Aug 20, 2009, 01:34 PM...
I'm always belligerent. That's what I do. Even to my friends, although usually on accident. I just like giving people a hard time. I thought most people understood this about me and realized its all in good fun. But since you both are semi new around here I guess you just haven't caught on. You have to admit, it was better than staring at a blank board.
Quote from: Corleone on Aug 20, 2009, 05:10 PMQuote from: Variable on Aug 20, 2009, 12:40 AMProve to me that some of the most intelligent evolutionist in the world believe in god. Show me proof. Because that sentence is complete bull shit. Its a lie they spread around in church and private schools because no one can really prove it right or wrong. But way to believe the propaganda. Do they get you to tithe too?
I heard it during a Big Bang documentary.Why are you posting in this thread, we all know you don't believe in god. So good for you? How about you enlist as a mine sweeper.
A big bang documentary put on by who? I'm guessing they had an agenda. I mean, I understand that everyone usually has an agenda. But you get my point?
And what do you mean why am I posting in this thread? Why am I talking
on subject in a thread on an open forum? Is that really a logical question? Why are you still posting even though you have made your position obvious?
And you kind of made me laugh at that last one seeing as how we are all pretty much indirectly "mine sweepers" ( see IEDs and Afghanistan being the most mined country in the world ) But I guess you just tapped into my morbid sense of humor.
But no need to get angry. I was just bringing up legitimate points. It's very stereotypical creationist of you to just start spouting off hate and nonsense when people attack your beliefs with good points.
Yeah I'm sorry man. Felt bad after I posted that. I didn't know what to say, and came off as an idiot.
lol
corleone come back 2 me baby
Quote from: Corleone on Aug 21, 2009, 06:14 AM
Yeah I'm sorry man. Felt bad after I posted that. I didn't know what to say, and came off as an idiot.
lol
no worries. It really did make me laugh
finally we have proof that there is a god
http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=20053
why ?
Quote from: Crazylegs on Sep 03, 2009, 08:06 PM
finally we have proof that there is a god
http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=20053 (http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=20053)
i knew when i found that cucumber under my mother's mattress it had to be the work of God.
from the same article:
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Sticking things into your bum is a major point of Christianity.
Alright, I'm Catholic, and I'm pretty sure getting stuff stuck in your ass isn't part of the teachings. Unless maybe you're getting pwned by Satan. Could be wrong though.
I think you are... Maybe Satan is actually abusing YOU !!
Oh my god....God was boning my mother with a cucumber!
Quote from: Vesanic on Dec 21, 2009, 02:59 PM...
if you would see the god you would absolutely belive him..
but if you dont belive the things that you cant see or prove, thats the same meaning with you dont belive that you have a soul..
(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2415/1258037484366.jpg) (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/1258037484366.jpg/)
Yeah!
god is a huge faggot
Quote from: Penicks on Dec 31, 2016, 08:29 PM
god is a huge faggot
... a sexy hermaphroditic faggot.
Yes. No doubt!
Quote from: Vesanic on Dec 22, 2009, 01:07 AM...
Nah fam you just gotta have soul. Knowing is believing