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Title: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: buddyboy101 on Dec 08, 2006, 08:22 PM
I just finished my term paper over the Deftones.  Feel free to check it out:
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=56279F142070E8D3


Crossing Borders and Burning Flags: The Deftones' Dance with Anti-essentialism


Frank
December 8, 2006
Pop Music and Identity


INTRODUCTION
   In an industry dominated by white men, the Deftones stand as a bit of an anomaly, and it is not just because of their diverse racial backgrounds.  Rather, for a variety of reasons the Deftones are worthy of scholarly attention and should not be overlooked.  First, the band has remained true to itself and has consequently survived many fads of pop music, especially the nu-metal movement of the late 1990s.  Second, the Deftones have achieved mainstream success yet remain perpetually underground to a significant degree.  The band name is recognizable yet "the average person would not be able to hum a Deftones tune" (Reesman, 2006, p. 6).  Third, there is no adequate label or genre that can sufficiently describe the Deftones' music.  The quintet has been described as "punk, hardcore, emo, metal, and hip-hop" to no avail (Sanford, 2006).  And fourth, the band's diversity in terms of musical direction, race, religion and socio-economic status stands out from that of its contemporaries.  Within this context, the Deftones are, to a certain extent, untouchable.  This term is not used to refer the band as heroes of rock and roll capable of doing no harm.  Instead, the Deftones are untouchable in the sense that it appears near impossible to pin down exactly what kind of music they make, what identity they hold for themselves, and what it is exactly that makes them so unique.  
   This paper argues that these characteristics and the Deftones' untouchability are tied together and are found deep in the group's multidimensional identity.   In examining the Deftones' music, imagery, merchandise, interviews, and overall direction, I will assess how the Deftones address issues pertaining to music, race, religion, and class.  Following this analysis, the paper will focus on elements external to the Deftones.  More specifically, anti-essentialsm and Josh Kun's "rock en español" theory will be explored in an attempt to make sense of the Deftones' identity.  The paper will conclude by identifying the implications of this research.  To proceed, I ask:
   RQ1: What role, if any, does identity play in the Deftones' music?
    RQ2: Can any framework make sense of the Deftones?
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: Rada on Dec 08, 2006, 08:43 PM
I agree with your thesis. The multicultural aspect of tones is probably the first thing that is noticed.

I think mostly, it is a Central Valley phenomenon - it is the most culturally diverse area in the world.

(Your paper reads pretty cool, good work!)
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: buddyboy101 on Dec 08, 2006, 10:49 PM
thanks for checking it out, man! 
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: one weak on Dec 09, 2006, 12:47 AM
cool idea. skimmed most of it becuase i didn'y have much time, but overall cool.
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: buddyboy101 on Dec 09, 2006, 12:57 AM
yeah the requirement was at least 20 pages - rather long.  but thanks for looking at it!
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: bloody_liver on Dec 09, 2006, 02:09 AM
And when he is questioned about the meaning of his lyrics on Deftones, Moreno succinctly replies, "The Earth" (DeRogatis, 2003).


nice
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: Børed on Dec 09, 2006, 04:06 AM
take away "the" from "the deftones" =)
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: Deftones-argentina on Dec 09, 2006, 05:01 AM
wow! it was high time someone wrote something like this. Congrats, a real written tribute to Deftones.
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: Jerry_Curls on Dec 09, 2006, 06:48 AM
What's Josh Kun's "rock en espanol" theory?
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: guitarfella14 on Dec 09, 2006, 07:30 AM
Hey man, cool paper. I would like to have a chance to write something about the 'tones sometime.

However, I noticed one little problem in the paper. When you were telling Chi's musical influences, one of them you said was "Charles Bukowski." Bukowski was an author, not a music artist. A good author by the way, you should read some of his stuff :)

Just thought I'd let you know.
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: pinkmaggit69 on Dec 09, 2006, 07:46 AM
Abe is white......don't tell him that though........he thinks he's black!  hahaha

Good research.........great read...........thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: Jerry_Curls on Dec 09, 2006, 08:18 AM
Nice paper.
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: buddyboy101 on Dec 09, 2006, 09:20 AM
wow, i can't believe people are actually reading through all of it - thanks a lot!!!


- Good call on the Bukowski influence.  I guess I should have looked into that one.

- Regarding Kun's "rock en espanol" theory, I explain it on p.17.  He basically describes the unique rock music being created on the US-Mexico borderland as "rock en espanol."  It's rock in Spanish with Latin sensibility yet undeniably American influenced. 
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: vadimo on Dec 09, 2006, 09:23 AM
great stuff mate
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: DefGuy on Dec 09, 2006, 09:32 AM
just one word to describe this reading:








wow
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: Martin on Dec 09, 2006, 11:37 AM
Fucking awesome.
That is just too cool.
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: ApiX on Dec 09, 2006, 03:01 PM
Quote from: Tuck on Dec 09, 2006, 11:37 AM
Fucking awesome.
That is just too cool.
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: NiChe on Dec 09, 2006, 09:26 PM
A+ , very well written.
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: law on Dec 09, 2006, 09:47 PM
Cool thing. Writing about deftones for a thesis is a strange thing in my eyes, but if that's your course then cool.
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: buddyboy101 on Dec 09, 2006, 11:24 PM
Quote from: law on Dec 09, 2006, 09:47 PM
Cool thing. Writing about deftones for a thesis is a strange thing in my eyes, but if that's your course then cool.

yeah kinda strange, right?!  i couldn't believe i had the opp to write 20 pages about the biggest band in the world!  the assignment was for a course called "Pop Music and Identity" and we were allowed to write about anything!  too good to be true!
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: Rada on Dec 10, 2006, 03:36 AM
"Taken as a hole" should read as "Taken as a whole"
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: Rada on Dec 10, 2006, 03:45 AM
BTW, my wish of Deftones making a cover of Pepe Aguilar's "Miedo" looks better and better to me. Thanks to your paper!

Viva Mexico!
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: buddyboy101 on Dec 10, 2006, 09:37 AM
Quote from: Rada on Dec 10, 2006, 03:36 AM
"Taken as a hole" should read as "Taken as a whole"

thanks man i fixed it!
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: Nailec on Jul 01, 2008, 09:33 PM
can someone reupload this for me plz?
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: KLaUThiO on Jul 01, 2008, 10:13 PM
Quote from: Nailec on Jul 01, 2008, 09:33 PM
can someone reupload this for me plz?
PLZ!!
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: buddyboy101 on Jul 01, 2008, 11:38 PM
I can't believe someone dug resurrected this topic lol

Here it is:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/2zgkk9

Let me know what you think! 

It will be featured on popmatters.com soon as well.
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: Nailec on Jul 02, 2008, 12:56 PM
i guess i give it a read the next week.

whats the context of the paper? are u a student?
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: buddyboy101 on Jul 03, 2008, 03:13 AM
Quote from: Nailec on Jul 02, 2008, 12:56 PM
i guess i give it a read the next week.

whats the context of the paper? are u a student?

yep i wrote this last year for my senior thesis.  the paper looks at the many dimensions of the deftones, where they draw their influences from, and how their identity is expressed in their music and mannerisms. 

i hope you enjoy it!  i truly think the deftones are one of the most intriguing bands out there.  hopefully one day the rest of the world will appreciate the deftones as much as we do.
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: emehlen on Jul 03, 2008, 08:53 AM
Quote from: buddyboy101 on Jul 03, 2008, 03:13 AM
Quote from: Nailec on Jul 02, 2008, 12:56 PM
i guess i give it a read the next week.

whats the context of the paper? are u a student?

yep i wrote this last year for my senior thesis.  the paper looks at the many dimensions of the deftones, where they draw their influences from, and how their identity is expressed in their music and mannerisms. 

i hope you enjoy it!  i truly think the deftones are one of the most intriguing bands out there.  hopefully one day the rest of the world will appreciate the deftones as much as we do.

Word
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: Nailec on Jul 03, 2008, 02:17 PM
Quote from: buddyboy101 on Jul 03, 2008, 03:13 AM
Quote from: Nailec on Jul 02, 2008, 12:56 PM
i guess i give it a read the next week.

whats the context of the paper? are u a student?

yep i wrote this last year for my senior thesis.  the paper looks at the many dimensions of the deftones, where they draw their influences from, and how their identity is expressed in their music and mannerisms. 

i hope you enjoy it!  i truly think the deftones are one of the most intriguing bands out there.  hopefully one day the rest of the world will appreciate the deftones as much as we do.

i hope i am able to understand since my english is very limited
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: vadimo on Jul 10, 2008, 08:51 PM
Quote from: buddyboy101 on Jul 03, 2008, 03:13 AM
Quote from: Nailec on Jul 02, 2008, 12:56 PM
i guess i give it a read the next week.

whats the context of the paper? are u a student?

yep i wrote this last year for my senior thesis.  the paper looks at the many dimensions of the deftones, where they draw their influences from, and how their identity is expressed in their music and mannerisms. 

i hope you enjoy it!  i truly think the deftones are one of the most intriguing bands out there.  hopefully one day the rest of the world will appreciate the deftones as much as we do.

i downloaded it.

I red about 7 pages in total - really good English and well written. It was interesting, i also discovered some new quotes coming from behalf of the band.

i might print it off and read it on the train to work or something.

you should submit that to Rock Sound maybe? hah never know might end up in the magazine.
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: buddyboy101 on Jul 11, 2008, 02:03 AM
thanks vadimo i appreciate it!  not a bad idea about publishing it.  right now i'm in talks with Pop Matters for digital publication.  we'll see :)
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: deftfan on Jul 11, 2008, 03:27 PM
Thanks for reup, really nice !
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: vadimo on Jul 11, 2008, 07:44 PM
Quote from: buddyboy101 on Jul 11, 2008, 02:03 AM
thanks vadimo i appreciate it!  not a bad idea about publishing it.  right now i'm in talks with Pop Matters for digital publication.  we'll see :)

hey thats good, if it does come up on their website, we will vote/rate it,
what mark did you get for it in your course?
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: buddyboy101 on Jul 11, 2008, 11:31 PM
Quote from: vadimo on Jul 11, 2008, 07:44 PM
Quote from: buddyboy101 on Jul 11, 2008, 02:03 AM
thanks vadimo i appreciate it!  not a bad idea about publishing it.  right now i'm in talks with Pop Matters for digital publication.  we'll see :)

hey thats good, if it does come up on their website, we will vote/rate it,
what mark did you get for it in your course?

an A  :)   my professor even went to the deftones show with me the night the paper was due!  such a cool dude
Title: Re: Deftones Term Paper
Post by: vadimo on Jul 12, 2008, 01:49 PM
Quote from: buddyboy101 on Jul 11, 2008, 11:31 PM
Quote from: vadimo on Jul 11, 2008, 07:44 PM
Quote from: buddyboy101 on Jul 11, 2008, 02:03 AM
thanks vadimo i appreciate it!  not a bad idea about publishing it.  right now i'm in talks with Pop Matters for digital publication.  we'll see :)

hey thats good, if it does come up on their website, we will vote/rate it,
what mark did you get for it in your course?

an A  :)   my professor even went to the deftones show with me the night the paper was due!  such a cool dude

cool. so he red the paper after the show? did he like the show?