SNW Review List
ThePrP - 4/5
http://www.theprp.com/reviews/deftones1.shtml
Times Online - 3/5
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22875-2418993.html
Allmusic - 7/10
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:eqf4zfobeh3k~T1
Rocksound - 9/10
http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,10281.0.html
Entertainment Weekly - Grade B (Good)
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/review/music/0,6115,1551457_4_0_,00.html
Absolutepunk - 94%
http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=183682
Blabbermouth - 8/10
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/showreview.aspx?reviewID=921
MetalHammer - 8/10
http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,10520.0.html
Drowned In Sound - 9/10
http://discover.drownedinsound.com/release/view/8044
Kerrang! Magazine - 4/5
http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,10521.0.html
Revolver Magazine - 5/5
(awating scan)
Billboard - N/A
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/discography/index.jsp?pid=141369&aid=810474#review
The Sun - 5/5
(daily newspaper article)
The New York Times -
After a long apprenticeship, Deftones have started to sound like their own band: one that seesaws between agonized crooning and hard-rock attack, within songs as well as through albums.
Billboard-
For most of "Saturday Night Wrist," Deftones contentedly let their instruments wander, inventing a meandering soundscape that broods in near darkness.
Q Magazine-
There's little of the fire and invention that characterised 2000's White Pony.
SNW Interview List
Ultimate-Guitar.com - ''I'll smoke weed till the day i die'' Steph.
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/interviews/deftones_guitarist_i_will_smoke_weed_till_the_day_i_die.html
Gallery of sound - 'Saturday Night Wrist Took a while to make'
Read interview here http://www.galleryofsound.com/Article/5119
Kerrang! - 'Interview with Chino about each SNW track'
Read interview here http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,9790.0.html
Drowned in Sound - 'We're happy that we're still experimenting'
Read interview here http://discover.drownedinsound.com/release/view/8044
Buzznet - Frank and Abe
Watch interview here http://www.buzznet.com/tags/deftones%20interview/video/
MTV2 Gonzo (with Zane Lowe) - Abe and Chino
Watch interview here http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,10539.0.html
BlendTV - All of the band
(Currently awaiting direct download)
Fan interview (Europe) - Steph and Chi
Watch interview here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_kXFiV5M6k
RockSound Interview - All of the band
Read interview here http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,10281.0.html
1041.Fresno Interview - All of the band
Read interview here http://www.1041fresno.com/Article.asp?id=273924
Chart Attack Interview - Steph
Read interview here http://www.chartattack.com/DAMN/2006/10/0211.cfm
BBC Radio 1 Interview (with Zane Lowe) - Chino and Steph
Listen to it here http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E0I3LC2Y
goood now i can read htem all one by one.. :)
that's some help for me. thanks
Good idea man, thanks.
Yeah great idea mate, cheers.
Good job man!
liam, you should get out more
j/k
No problem guys.
Quote from: aj on Oct 29, 2006, 04:34 PM
liam, you should get out more
j/k
It's true.
Can anyone make it into a Sticky for a little while? Instead of it dying out, I'll keep updating it.
Great idea man ! Thanks for that... ;)
Heh I could be a mod arse and say: hey this topic already excists, Ill lock this one.
;D
But I havent really got the time to keep that one up anyway. Maybe theres some stuff there you can use, I dont know. Here it is: http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,10072.0.html
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Oct 29, 2006, 05:54 PM
Heh I could be a mod arse and say: hey this topic already excists, Ill lock this one.
;D
But I havent really got the time to keep that one up anyway. Maybe theres some stuff there you can use, I dont know. Here it is: http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,10072.0.html
oi don't be grumpy!
I guess the big fat smiley in my post wasnt enough to convince anyone I wasnt grumpy but being helpfull...
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Oct 29, 2006, 05:54 PM
Heh I could be a mod arse and say: hey this topic already excists, Ill lock this one.
;D
But I havent really got the time to keep that one up anyway. Maybe theres some stuff there you can use, I dont know. Here it is: http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,10072.0.html
I know Moz sorry dude, I saw just after looking for past threads with interviews lol
But then i thought, Oh Moz can just be an asshole and lock this if he wanted, I wouldn't have minded :P
I'm sad though and i like to do little things like this so i'll update it and shizzle, FO SHURE!
DUde, its good you made this thread, because I WASNT updating it, thats what Im saying. Good good. Good.
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Oct 29, 2006, 06:03 PM
DUde, its good you made this thread, because I WASNT updating it, thats what Im saying. Good good. Good.
yes, I KNOW, As you were!! :D
the Blend TV thing never works... :(
Quote from: Moz La Punk on Oct 29, 2006, 06:00 PM
I guess the big fat smiley in my post wasnt enough to convince anyone I wasnt grumpy but being helpfull...
I thought you might see through my remark, you grumpy bitch ;) lol
Alright you cheesecunt.
hey good good good, Now I can enjoy the rest of the day! :P cuz I've been dying to read more reviews,..
bump
bump bump
nice work compiling all this stuff bro
Cheers man, i'll keep adding anymore i come across and i'm sure there will be more reviews to come.
Good one man! You should add the 9/10 Rock Sound review to the reviews list, and the MH article (although I suppose there's not much to do with SNW in that).
nice one, we should keep on updating it in 1st post
Quote from: Chrisbo on Oct 30, 2006, 11:08 AM
Good one man! You should add the 9/10 Rock Sound review to the reviews list, and the MH article (although I suppose there's not much to do with SNW in that).
I have already man ;)
Saturday Night Wrist Review @ BlabberMouth.net (8/10) - http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/showreview.aspx?reviewID=921
stickied.
Thanks alot man! :)
Thanks also Largon, updated.
Quote from: largon on Oct 30, 2006, 06:29 PM
Saturday Night Wrist Review @ BlabberMouth.net (8/10) - http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/showreview.aspx?reviewID=921
Some of the comments beneith that review piss me off to no end.
good going subliminal.
Here's a little blurb from Entertainment Weekly:
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/review/music/0,6115,1551457_4_0_,00.html
oh...and they said "Pink Cellphone" was the "song to download"...aka the standout song...making their opinion (which didn't carry much weight to begin with) completely null and void...this is the same magazine that gave Fight Club a D when it came out, and then a couple years later put it as number one on their 50 DVDS to own article...what a shitrag
Quote from: Subliminal on Oct 29, 2006, 04:11 PM
SNW Review List
Blabbermouth - 8/10
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/showreview.aspx?reviewID=921
MetalHammer - 8/10
http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,10520.0.html
Drowned In Sound - 9/10
http://discover.drownedinsound.com/release/view/8044
Kerrang! Magazine - 4/5
http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,10521.0.html
Revolver Magazine - 5/5
(awating scan)
SNW Interview List
Gallery of sound - 'Saturday Night Wrist Took a while to make'
Read interview here http://www.galleryofsound.com/Article/5119
Kerrang! - 'Interview with Chino about each SNW track'
Read interview here http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,9790.0.html
Drowned in Sound - 'We're happy that we're still experimenting'
Read interview here http://discover.drownedinsound.com/release/view/8044
Buzznet - Frank and Abe
Watch interview here http://www.buzznet.com/tags/deftones%20interview/video/
MTV2 Gonzo (with Zane Lowe) - Abe and Chino
Watch interview here http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,10539.0.html
BlendTV - All of the band
Watch interview here ftp://saturdaynightwrist.com
user: snwBoard
pass: snwBoard000
Fan interview (Europe) - Steph and Chi
Watch interview here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_kXFiV5M6k
RockSound Interview - All of the band
Read interview here http://www.sharinglungs.com/index.php/topic,10281.0.html
1041.Fresno Interview - All of the band
Read interview here http://www.1041fresno.com/Article.asp?id=273924
Chart Attack Interview - Steph
Read interview here http://www.chartattack.com/DAMN/2006/10/0211.cfm
BBC Radio 1 Interview (with Zane Lowe) - Chino and Steph
Listen to it here http://www.megaupload.com/?d=E0I3LC2Y
ADD THESE LINKS TO THE LIST!!!!
-http://www.metacritic.com/music/artists/deftones/saturdaynightwrist?q=deftones
-http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=183682
Quote from: vadimo on Oct 30, 2006, 04:16 PM
nice one, we should keep on updating it in 1st post
word
Cheers guys, Updated.
Quote from: Subliminal on Oct 29, 2006, 04:11 PM
Q Magazine-
There's little of the fire and invention that characterised 2000's White Pony.
what the fuck are those fuckbags talking about?
Quote from: Subliminal on Oct 30, 2006, 04:53 PM
Quote from: Chrisbo on Oct 30, 2006, 11:08 AM
Good one man! You should add the 9/10 Rock Sound review to the reviews list, and the MH article (although I suppose there's not much to do with SNW in that).
I have already man ;)
Yeah they're up there dude, but you havent listed the actual RS review to the Reviews list, you've only got the article listed (though the link on that leads to the review as well I suppose).
Quote from: Chrisbo on Oct 31, 2006, 09:12 AM
Quote from: Subliminal on Oct 30, 2006, 04:53 PM
Quote from: Chrisbo on Oct 30, 2006, 11:08 AM
Good one man! You should add the 9/10 Rock Sound review to the reviews list, and the MH article (although I suppose there's not much to do with SNW in that).
I have already man ;)
Yeah they're up there dude, but you havent listed the actual RS review to the Reviews list, you've only got the article listed (though the link on that leads to the review as well I suppose).
Oh no your right, i was thinking of the DrownedInSound one haha i'll do it now!
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:eqf4zfobeh3k~T1 (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:eqf4zfobeh3k~T1)
I use this website a lot, the gave SNW a 7/10
:-\
whatev
Please.. upload Blend TV to megaupload. The FTP don't work...
Quote from: Chrisbo on Oct 30, 2006, 11:08 AM
Good one man! You should add the 9/10 Rock Sound review to the reviews list, and the MH article (although I suppose there's not much to do with SNW in that).
i bought yesterday RS, and i was a little worried with the last comment("this album is excellent, this album is probably their last"). but then i saw that they had Black Parade as album of the month, and i felt huge relief!!
Quote from: 333tone on Oct 31, 2006, 09:34 PM
Quote from: Chrisbo on Oct 30, 2006, 11:08 AM
Good one man! You should add the 9/10 Rock Sound review to the reviews list, and the MH article (although I suppose there's not much to do with SNW in that).
i bought yesterday RS, and i was a little worried with the last comment("this album is excellent, this album is probably their last"). but then i saw that they had Black Parade as album of the month, and i felt huge relief!!
HAHAHA! ;D
A great thread. I've just been reading the user comments on Blabbermouth and some of these people are absolute morons. A few people have given the cd 1 out of 10 because they don't like the cd's reviewer!
QuoteThis is some faux nu-metal emo mallcore fecal matter manufactured for teeny boppers to jumpdafuckup while wearing there hoodies and sneakers. all hot-topic-core bands = automatic one.
Words simply fail me, I really can't think of words to appropriately express what a stupid comment the above is. A few more stupid posts saying the tones are too artsy and pretentious finishing with:
Quotedeftones sucks really bad
have left me really considering joining the site to first correct the last poster (if he's going to diss the band he can at least do it properly "deftones
suck really badly" Its not really that complicated he's only got four words to write bless him) and then tell the rest how utterly stupid it is to rate a cd before listening to it!
.............ahhhh I feel better now :)
Once again Subliminal great thread ;)
For Dutch people.. review: find it here:
http://www.3voor12.nl/artikelen/artikel/31014188
Saai, eentonig. Zo noem je een herkenbaar geluid als je het niet je ding is. En je kunt het trucje uithalen met zo'n beetje elke band. Magic Numbers dreutelt maar voort, Korn kan niet anders dan afbladderende basgeluiden blazen, Tool maakte alweer zo'n epos, Arctic Monkeys is de zoveelste britpophype. Wat niet altijd lukt, is een band herkennen, uit duizenden, omdat het saaie, eentonige geluid is geevolueerd tot een onmiskenbaar keurmerk, een unieke eigen klank die alle anderen als copy cats in het stof laat bijten.
Enter: Deftones' Saturday Night Wrist.
Dik tien jaar duurde de vervolmaking. Het begon veelbelovend met Adrenaline in 1995. De zang van Chino Moreno, de enige zanger ter wereld die melancholisch kan krijsen als een geëlektrocuteerd varken, stond daar al als een huis. Maar Deftones klonken op Adrenaline nog heel punky. Mooi, maar ook herkenbaar en herleidbaar tot andere bands. De rauwe blauwdruk voor het onmiskenbare Deftones-geluid stond twee jaar later op Around The Fur: tegelijkertijd harder en warmer, beklemmender, maar ook met meer troost. Geen flauwe emo, maar oprechte emotie.
Het album was niet alleen de blauwdruk van wat de wereld vanaf dat moment als Deftones herkent, het verkocht ook nog eens als een gek. In 1999 ging Around The Fur voor de 500.000ste keer over de toonbank en kreeg daarmee een gouden randje. Ook opvolgers White Pony en Deftones scoorden goud en platinum in de VS.
Maar goud is nog lang geen nirvana. Zoals elke grote band, moest ook Deftones eerst nog door het slijk. Dat slijk ligt vooral in de studio, waar de voorkeuren van Moreno - fan van Robert Smith, The Smiths en Faith No More - keihard botsen met die van de rest van de band.
"Het moeilijkste album ooit," zegt de band zelf van deze plaat. De redding zat in het zien van een goed voorbeeld. Tijdens repetities voor Saturday Night Wrist keek de band de documentaire Some Kind Of Monster over Metallica. Daarin is te zien hoe de grootste metalband ter wereld slechts het laatste album afmaakt met hulp van intensieve metal coaching. Deftones herkent zich in de manier waarop de metalmiljonairs elkaar continu etteren als kleine kids en het spoor helemaal bijster zijn, "Maar dan zonder de miljoenen," aldus Abe Cunningham in een interview.
Waar of niet, het resultaat brengt Deftones een dichtje bij de dinosaurissenstatus van Metallica. De punk van Adrenaline en het rauwe op Around The Fur smelt samen in Rats! Rats! Rats!, het melodische en ingetogene van White Pony is geperfectioneerd in Cherry Wave, geheel nieuwe paden worden bewandeld in het sferische geluidslandschap U,U,D,D,L,R,L,R,A,B,Select,Start en Depeche Mode en Nine Inch Nails vinden zichzelf opnieuw uit in Pink Cellphone.
Onmisbaar om het einddoel te bereiken: een goede leermeester. Ouwe rot producer Bob Erzin maakte niet altijd briljante albums, maar mocht als oude rot (Pink Floyd en KISS hebben veel aan hem te danken) toch de vaderrol op zich nemen. Met succes. Zijn bijdrage zit hem niet zozeer in het geluid, dat was al uitgekristalliseerd. Maar hij is wel de punt op de cliché- i, die Saturday Night Wrist een perfecte balans geeft tussen, hard, zacht, emotie, agressie.
Enter: nirvana!
another interview:
http://www.newsreview.com/chico/Content?oid=oid%3A36792
Quote from: 333tone on Oct 31, 2006, 09:34 PM
Quote from: Chrisbo on Oct 30, 2006, 11:08 AM
Good one man! You should add the 9/10 Rock Sound review to the reviews list, and the MH article (although I suppose there's not much to do with SNW in that).
i bought yesterday RS, and i was a little worried with the last comment("this album is excellent, this album is probably their last"). but then i saw that they had Black Parade as album of the month, and i felt huge relief!!
Haha yes, that is a very true and valid point haha! :D
Allright, SNW has gotten pretty good reviews in Norway aswell.
http://www.dagsavisen.no/nyetakter/anmeldelser/article2381034.ece
(for everyone who dont know norwegian ill try to translate it for ya, it might be a bit dodgy, because i dont know all the translations for everything. anywhoo. here it goes.)
Greatness a'la Deftones
Saturday Night Wrist
5/6
Deftones never seice to impress with their genre defying metalmusic. Three years after they left the fans in the dark/in distress(something like this), we now get "Saturday night Wrist" as a confirmation that the course is confusingly unchanged(something like that), their joy to play is intesified and their creativity is so well kept that the album comes forth as one of the bands absolute best.
Much is changed, especially when it comes to how far down in their own genre they are willing to explore. So far the cooperation with Bob Ezrin is a successfull choice.
Chino Moreno streches his vocals over the entire emotional register, from agressive poetic anger to bottomless sadness and one or another whining tone here and there.
He masters this balanse of the moods with scary prescision, while the band follow each little vocal "hint" inn to hallways of experimental metallmusic, ballads and classic punkinspired hardcore that really makes your head bang. As a metal version of U2, deftones builds an epic backdrop for their music, makes huge panoramalooks over the landscape and smashes the music out with Morenos surrealistic, and some times genious lyrics that builds up the atmosphere.
With "Saturday Night Wrist" Deftones deserves to break out of their kind of underacknowledged cultstatus because the greatness in their music makes every night a saturday night!
Again, im no expert translator. Hope it works for you guys.
i'm glad all the reviews are good! :)
me, from my myspace blog:
Getting the album I was hoping for an improvement on their 2003 self titled album, which was pretty good even if their worst. My first impression on the art was "this should be pretty trippy".
So putting it in and on comes Hole in the Earth, the first single. I like Chino's voice here and the way he sings the lyrics. Pretty good guitars and drumming too.
Rapture is Adrenaline-era style, straight screaming and hard hitting. I like it and its a definate headbanger. The lyrics are a bit hard to get because of the screaming style though. Sounds like "Elite" from White Pony.
Beware kicks in, and the drumming is great here. So far this is the best song on the album with an almost prog metal vibe. Chino's singing is really good here, again. Has some good bass too.
Cherry Waves is another one with a proggish vibe and awesomeness. Fucking rules and the imagery is A+.
Now we come to Mein, featuring the one and only Serj Tankian from SOAD. It's a pretty good song, but Serj's input is about 3 lines and doesn't stand out compared to the last few tracks.
Interlude is a pretty good instrumental that reminds me of The Fragile era Nine Inch Nails. The title is something I'd expect someone stupid like Dragonforce to use though (the real name of this song is a bunch of video game buttons).
Here's where I started to get worried. Xerces starts off like a Team Sleep/Lucky You/Teenager type song with electronics and no crunch. The voice is good but its a musical snoozer until you hit the chorus. Here it takes the usual Deftones vibe. The lyrics kinda remind me of Bloody Cape.
Rats! Rats! Rats! is another straight balls out thrasher of a song. Despite repetitive lyrics it's a prime headbanger and mosher.
Now comes a song I was worried about. Pink Cellphone is almost complete electronica ending with a narration about british people fucking each other up the ass (I'm not making this up). This song sucks and almost threatens to ruin the album. Annie Hardy sucks fucking balls.
Luckily the album redeems itself with Combat, another prog metal-esque song with Chino's maniacal shouts of "what side are you on?". This sets the album back on track for the final tracks.
Kimdracula comes off as an apocalyptic, hard rocker with some quality playing by Steph and Abe. Another good one setting up for the finale.
The final song, Riviere, has a Digital Bath vibe and sets the light on the set that is SNW with an ominous tone of desperation. A great closer but a bit short.
Looking back on it, it comes off to me as a concept album about the world's end times (with the exception of that shitfest PCP). An improvement on self titled for sure. All in all a solid album and one of my favs of 2006 so far.
8.25/10
rollingstone review 3.5/5
This Cali quintet was the artiest of the new-metal bands, honing a savage and spaced-out guitar-and-keyboard attack that got dense as hell on 2003's Deftones. Saturday Night Wrist is slightly cleaned-up, but it's as dark as the Deftones have ever gotten, with sludgy stoner-rock bumping against prog-metal chops and scorched-earth atmospherics. It's a weird blend of viscerally shaking (hopped-up slashers like "The Earth"), artfully alluring ("Beware," which has cricket sound effects) and unfocused oblivion ("Cherry Waves"). Tool and Korn are prime reference points, but another one is more surprising: Radiohead. "Mein," an industrial banger with swooshy space-rock overlays, finds Tarzan-like yowler Chino Moreno doing a credible Thom Yorke. The songwriting never quite comes together, but this is a metal record that gets by as much on sonic tricks as monster riffs.
http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/deftones/albums/album/12056692/review/12246020/saturday_night_wrist
Quote from: Far away on Nov 01, 2006, 04:15 PM
i'm glad all the reviews are good! :)
there's this stupid pop+rockGreek mag that rated the album 7/10. i won't do them the favour and buy it, but i'm gonna e-mail them and tell them that since they copy all foreign mags, they should at least take a look at their reviews too! (the same mag gave WP 7/10)
Great 3voor12 article Sly! The reviewd it well, and without mentioning nu-metal!
Quote from: Tuck on Nov 02, 2006, 08:36 AM
Great 3voor12 article Sly! The reviewd it well, and without mentioning nu-metal!
Always got to applaud a reviewer for not bringing up that term!
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22875-2418993.html
Deftones
Saturday Night Wrist
(Maverick)
3 out of 5
Deftones always seemed well equipped to vault nu-metal's two-dimensional blueprint.
But fans of their White Pony album will recognise Saturday Night Wrist's tried and tested blend of dark atmospherics and brute dynamics.
There is poise and power on display from the off as Hole in the Earth mixes transfixing energy with an almost dreamlike chorus, while the trademark quavering drones and meaty riffs are there in spades, especially on the splenetic Rapture and the fearsomely unhinged Rats! Rats! Rats! Chino Moreno's spectral moan cranks up the dark intensity, though he is relaxed enough to pass the mike over to System of a Down's Serj Tankian for the standout Mein. You'll need a strong constitution, but Saturday Night Wrist repays the effort.
MIKE PATTENDEN
Quote from: aj on Nov 02, 2006, 04:03 PM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22875-2418993.html
Deftones
Saturday Night Wrist
(Maverick)
3 out of 5
Deftones always seemed well equipped to vault nu-metal's two-dimensional blueprint.
But fans of their White Pony album will recognise Saturday Night Wrist's tried and tested blend of dark atmospherics and brute dynamics.
There is poise and power on display from the off as Hole in the Earth mixes transfixing energy with an almost dreamlike chorus, while the trademark quavering drones and meaty riffs are there in spades, especially on the splenetic Rapture and the fearsomely unhinged Rats! Rats! Rats! Chino Moreno's spectral moan cranks up the dark intensity, though he is relaxed enough to pass the mike over to System of a Down's Serj Tankian for the standout Mein. You'll need a strong constitution, but Saturday Night Wrist repays the effort.
MIKE PATTENDEN
WTF are these words : poise, transfixing, quavering drones, splenetic, unhinged, etc. ? Fuck that...
Quote from: tarkil on Nov 02, 2006, 04:13 PMWTF are these words : poise, transfixing, quavering drones, splenetic, unhinged, etc. ? Fuck that...
haha music journalism, gotta love it ;)
ok Frenchie, here you go
poise = equilibre, assurance, grace
transfixing = transpercant
quavering drones = vrombissements chevrotants/tremblotants
splenetic = hargneux, atrabilaire
unhinged = desequilibre/delirant
Fuck, you know all that words in french ? Or did you search for them ?
In any case, thank you very much. I searched for them on my side too though... :)
well my vocab is fucking excellent.
actually i used my dictionary.
Ha ha, okay, thanks for the help anyway man... Cheers... :)
Quote from: aj on Nov 02, 2006, 06:08 PM
ok Frenchie, here you go
poise = equilibre, assurance, grace
transfixing = transpercant
quavering drones = vrombissements chevrotants/tremblotants
splenetic = hargneux, atrabilaire
unhinged = desequilibre/delirant
ahahahahahahahahahahaah
My g/f got that entertainment weekly the other day... found it funny... although I still love the song, I found it funny that their recommended download was Pink Cellphone.
Another one to the list from a blog. I like the review: Short,simple, good review.
http://www.uncrate.com/men/entertainment/music/saturday-night-wrist-by-deftones-006841.php
it got 3/5 from swedens two biggest newspapers,
ill maybe translate the reviews later.
SNW PLAYBOY Review!!!!!
A mix of metal chug and My Bloody Valentine atmospherics helped the Deftones transcend a musical movement filled with "Nookie" heads. Here the band returns to the experimental brilliance of White Pony, blending power-chord blasts woth a soft melodies. There's no other band like this on the planet. 4 out of five bunnies!!!
Once again the Blend TV interview in Berlin (18.10.06).
I've made the video smaller and splitted it into 4 rar-files for an easier upload.
I couldn't find an appropriate codec, so there are some interlace-errors. sry for that!
pt.1 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GLUBOF2W
pt.2 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R397ZTE7
pt.3 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O43IYLDC
pt.4 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NMCVLPJI
pt3 and pt4 links are the same
plz check it :)
??? It's working fine for me so thank you marco!
And thanks for the people who keep up the list. Respect.
visions 11/06 [german] : chino / steph and chi
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most important things :
- two separated interviews: steph and chi and afterwards chino
steph : "Why I don`t give interviews with chino anymore ? because i always wonder about the crap he is telling."
- they started writing SNW in early 2004
- chino : "I had sung over every song but i didn`t satisfy with the material. I´m the only singer in the band so nobody could understand me...."
- around the fur is chinos favourite record
- chi about chino : "this love - hate is our strong and our weak point"
----> they are building a studio for being able to record while being on tour. chino : "we are not free to take such a long time again for releasing an album"
PS: sorry for my english , i hope i could help you with the translating ;)
^cool. it'd be great if you could translate the whole interview. so, diidn't anybody buy November's issue of Guitar One?
i would translate that if i had the time but im busy studying...
the whole interview is about the chino thing/problem. there`s not that much new besides the stuff i`ve already mentioned.
but if anybody want to translate the whole thing: have fun ! :D
edit : and the sentence on the bandphoto page mean--> chi : "if chino wouldn`t been so talented he would not exist in the band anymore"
I loved the part of the mobile studio :) Thanks!
Some cool shots there too, Thanks for that one!
no problem
http://www.theprp.com/reviews/deftones1.shtml
4/5
thanks
official alvar review:
(this is my first review ever wohooo)
Hole In The Earth
seems like this song was, like "change", created to be the
first single for this album. its got an easy melody and forces
you to sing along, the only hard part of this song is one
guitar riff. when i heard this song first on their myspace, i
thought it was quite good, but by now i dont listen to it very
much. its one of those songs that quickly get boring because
there somehow is nothing special in it, well, just my opinion,
u know....
rating: 2/5
Rapture
so after falling alseep listening to HITE, this song wakes you up
fast. the drum intro and the drums over the whole song are just
so perfect... stephs guitar is the shit and somehow franks strange
keyboards add a strange industrial feeling to this great song.
chino is screaming all over the song and that is just how its got to
be. my favourite song of this record,
rating: 5/5
beware
well, since the last 3 albums (SNW included) deftones have flooded
their song-inventory with much slow, ballad-like songs. beware is
another one of those, but this is much darker and different than further
ones. a dark melody with deep keyboard songs and slow guitar riffs...
i think this is the heaviest ballad i ever heard. the melody is quite easy,
chinos voice is perfect and the last part of the song is just a great outro.
well, i dont skip this song yet (i downloaded it after hearing it on rock am
ring and was listening to it since)so i guess i like it :)
rating: 3/5
cherry waves
the first time i heard this song i was blown away. in the last few years chino
really improved to write melodic, slow songs, and this is just the best one he
has done so far. it mixes up all the experiences he made with deftones and
team sleep and ends up in perfection. there is nothing more to say about it,
you really have to listen to it to be taken away and feel it.
rating: 5/5
mein
this song is upbeat with a very strange but nice melody and again you are forced
to sing along with chino after listening to this song a few times. except for the
great drumming there is nothing instrumental special in this song and in my opinion
serj`s appereance is way to short and goes a little bit under. however his singing
fits to the feeling that this song creates and so im not disappointed much.
rating: 3/5
"konami code"
i didnt know what i should expect from this song so i let myself surprise while hearing
it the first time and was amazed. the melody is way more intense than on any other deftones song. its a nice song to chill to and reminds me of some instrumental passages
of bands like Isis or Tool, that i like alot. that chinos voice doesnt appear on this song
doesnt make it any worser, this is a very nice piece of music.
rating: 4/5
xerces
after so many melodic and light songs i really expected some heavier stuff, but xerces
again is a ballad. there even is not much guitars on this song, most parts are, like many
times on this album, keyboards, but this time there is again nothing special for me in this
song. the chorus is fine and played live i could imagine this song really to grow on me,
but by now i dont like it very much, i think its one of the weakest tracks on SNW.
rating: 2/5
r!r!r!
finally the destruction arrives. some quick, loud guitar riffs introduce you into a long
screaming passage of chino to fast beats and a killah-steph-guitar, that reminds me
a bit of "rickets". even some short melodic passages cant take away any o nthe heaviness
of this song. i specially love the structure and the sepultura-like break of this song,
thats the kind of music deftones should have putted more on this album.
rating: 5/5
pcp
you can say whatever you want, i love the beats, the melody and the nonsenseness
of this song. it perfectly fits to the album concept, the layout and the deftones style
and the outro on the explict version is just so damn crazy...
this song takes you away from all these guitar riffs and keyboard sounds to another
spectrum of deftones-style. its just another example for their wide spreaded variety.
rating: 5/5 (yeah, i gave it fuckin 5/5)
combat
again one of my favourite tracks on this album. the chorus of this song is a great
combination of screaming and rapping and a nice mixture of easy, melodic parts
and harder, heavy style, a bit like HITE, only that this time even chino is getting
more aggressive too, a great mixture of the two main styles of this album.
rating: again 5/5
kimdracula
im not into this song quite much. the melody is easy again and chinos voice sounds
nicely, what i like about it though is that the guitars even do appear all over the song
and the riff is played nicely. but all in all sadly i cant find the special point of this song,
there is no passage that amazed me so far and so its quite weak compared to other
songs of this album.
rating: 3/5
riviere
most people say that this is the perfect outro fot this album and: its true.
when you listen to the album from the beginning to the end you really enjoy
this song, but somehow as a "stand-alone" track it again has nothing special
there for me. there are quiet songs on SNW that i enjoy much more than this
and so i think this song is another going-under-track from this album.
i know many people like it but i like other songs much more
rating: 2/5
like i said b4, this album needs some more heaviness (yea im into the loud stuff),
but im still fine with half of the album and all in all its a great piece of music. its not
my favourite album but its better that s/t and even feels fresher and more innovative,
for me, than WP, so im gonna listen to it for a long time for sure and maybe it will grow
more on me.
SNW rating: 4/5 (not perfect, but very good)
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Nov 08, 2006, 04:30 PM
I loved the part of the mobile studio :) Thanks!
haha, the guys are so lazy that i'm sure they'll be fuckin' around in that moile studio! i really can't understand why bands have to make a record every 1-2 years for the sake of it.
Quote from: 333tone on Nov 08, 2006, 09:57 PM
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Nov 08, 2006, 04:30 PM
I loved the part of the mobile studio :) Thanks!
haha, the guys are so lazy that i'm sure they'll be fuckin' around in that moile studio! i really can't understand why bands have to make a record every 1-2 years for the sake of it.
That's because it's a natural amount of time. Most bands will have written enough songs at that period so as to release an album.
phat ass interview with steph on ultimate-guitar.com
it doesn`t even fit in two posts ;D
Deftones Guitarist: 'I Will Smoke Weed Till The Day I Die'
artist: deftones date: 11/09/2006 category: interviews
Deftones Guitarist: 'I Will Smoke Weed Till The Day I Die'
Stephen Carpenter is a musician with a lot on his mind. His work on the Deftones newest, Saturday Night Wrist, is stunningly good, ranging from the dark and liquid to the brutally blistering. It is a poignant and passionate testament to his unique abilities as a guitar player. But he is more than just the advance guard of the modern school of rock seven-string technique. Carpenter is a deep thinker and damned if you'd ever pick up on this by simply looking at him. He has a dark and menacing countenance and your first impulse is to cover up when he ventures near (and he'll talk about that). But he is not that murky visage; rather he has strong notions of right and wrong and a totally accepting nature. Here, he presents his thoughts on the new album, of course, and beyond that Steph (rhymes with deaf) looks at politics, posturing, and pot.
Ultimate-Guitar: There are a lot of different textures and sounds on the new record. Does the band look to bring different things like that each time you go in the studio?
Stephen Carpenter: Certainly. I don't really think we've even gotten to where we want. We're definitely getting ideas to come through a little bit more now, but we still have tons of ideas for how to do things. Even right now, here we are coming out with a new record and we're already still talking about what kind of stuff we want to do on the next one. The completion of this one has kind of inspired us to already write more stuff. And it's like, finally!
Is it a conscious thing on your part to try and bring new things to the band or is it more of a consequence of what you may be listening to at the time?
I don't think we try to bring in things that we listen to more than we try to not recreate ourselves musically. There's gonna be a general sound and I think we have with like the heavier guitars. But that's just my part. For me it's fun to play that stuff, so that sound is usually gonna be there. This record for me personally, I decided to kick back. I really asked everybody else and I'm like, "You guys need to step up and do some shit because otherwise it's just me coming with another damn riff all the time." I mean I like that stuff, but mix it up. We really do try to mix it up. We don't look at it like, "Oh, people really like this song, let's make something like this. That way they'll still like us." We look at it more like, "All right, they've heard that record. If we create another one like that, that's almost like slapping them in the face, saying they can't understand or they won't accept us doing something different." We feel like our fans expect us to do something different all the time, so we're constantly pushing it around.
The sound of the Deftones has a purposeful feel to it, more so than most other bands out there. You really seem to know how to write music that has a balance of heaviness and subtle undercurrents.
I think it's sort of like that, what you're talking about. I think ultimately when it comes to music, the five of us really don't want it to be any specific style of music. We don't sit there trying to write metal songs and, "Oh, this will be a love song or something." All those elements are in our music, but they're not ever one thing or the main focus. Just the five of us alone are all different. Like I said, if I wasn't playing in a band, I'm not sure the metal side would be there at all.
So you do think that you're the one who brings the metal element to the band?
Certainly.
The guitars really act as an accompaniment to a song like "Hole In The Earth" rather than acting as the focal point. Was that Bob Ezrin's influence input on a purely songwriting level?
Not really. Working with Bob, I think he wanted to be that person, but I think personally the songs, arrangement and everything, a lot were already in the positions they were. We did make some adjustments with Bob. That's not saying he didn't have anything to do with anything. I think Bob, his role for himself personally, would have really came to light when we had vocals. But when we were working with Bob, there wasn't really vocals. So he did go over music with us and we did adjust arrangements here and there, but a lot of the stuff still reverted back to where we wanted it ourselves.
What was the reason to use Ezrin?
I personally didn't choose Ezrin. It was Abe and Chino who really wanted to work with him. Abe is a really big Pink Floyd fan. I think Chino really like him for the same reasons. I really wasn't interested in doing it with him at all at the time when we started. I had a good time with Bob, but he wasn't the guy I really wanted. We were working with Dan "The Automator" before Bob and I was actually pretty stoked about that because I thought that was going to bring more to the technical side of the music out. That's what I really wanted to get into, but we kind of went the other direction.
Talk a little about what kinds of guitars and amps were used for "Hole In The Earth."
My set has been the same now for almost 10 years, guitar-wise especially, except I switch from 6 to 7 strings. I just use a Marshall preamp, the JMP-1 and their power amps, the EL34. Other than that, especially for that song, I just use a little reverb in stereo chorus for the melody line that I played through it.
What kind is that?
I use the TC Electronics 2290 and the reverb is actually off a Rocktron unit I have. I have an Intellifex.
And the ESP is your signature model?
Yes.
Has the 7-string become a big part of your sound and the style of the band?
For me, it is. I think the rest of the guys don't really care for it too much.
"The completion of this one has kind of inspired us to already write more stuff."
Why do you say that?
I'm really into the more metal-edge stuff and I love a grinding sound. They like it, but I mean it's more my thing than them. Even a lot of stuff that we're playing on this record, they're all tuned in like E and D# and stuff like that, D tuning and like a standard tuning but dropped tuning. Chi and Chino, they're playing in regular tuning on 6 and 4-string guitars. I'm the only one that plays down with the lower stuff.
On "Cherry Waves," there are a lot of big guitars, which work really well in the context of the track.
That song I actually wrote with Chino and I was actually playing drums. I really like this band called Refuses from Sweden. They have morphed into another band, International Noise Conspiracy. But that style drum-wise, I was kind of liking that rolling drums. Once the song got created and all that, then it got Abe inspired and he jumped on and he started playing his version of it. That's when I jumped on guitar for my part into it.
How do you go about recording the tracks?
I try to do the best live track I can and that will include the switching, the live switching of the tones and stuff like that. But I will go back afterwards and layer better tracks over it. But I like to keep the live track as good as possible and leave it in there if possible.
Are you able to nail things in a couple takes or do you go back in and punch in a couple of bars to perfect a section?
I get everything in relatively quick time. I can get lucky once in a while and do something in one take, but lots of times I'll take a few takes. If I have some little part that trips me up every once in a while, I'll spend time redoing it. But otherwise, I tend to play only what I can play versus trying to play something I can't and waste a lot of people's time trying to learn it while I'm recording it. Other people do that sometimes, and that's a lot of reasons why we take time. For me, I find something that I can play and I enjoy and it sounds real good play. Once I do that, then I just tend to revolve around until everyone locks in. I'll lock in to a part that I enjoy quicker than everyone else.
"Mein" features vocals from Serj Tankian from System of a Down. Is that a band that you guys listen to?
Yeah, I really like those guys. I'm really glad Serj did some stuff on there.
I get almost a U2 feel on that song. Do you hear that?
No. I like U2, I really do. But they weren't even considered at all during the process of that song.
On "Interlude," it sounds like it's almost a jam that Jefferson Airplane would have done back in '67. It has a psychedelic, LSD jam-type feel about it.
Yeah, well, minus the LSD part. Me and Chi, we were jamming. Chi was playing this bass line and I just got on drums and played with him. They had recorded it while we were doing it and then later on Chino added some keyboards and guitars to it. I think Frank got some stuff on there. I don't remember if he did anything on it or not. I want to say it's mainly me, Chino, and Chi.
Does the instrumental side of the music intrigue you?
I love it. I've told Chino now for three records, since he started playing guitar, "Why don't we just get rid of the vocals in the group and just do all music? We can go out there and just do sick-ass, fucking instrumentals and just jam!"
You could really get off on that?
Yeah, I love it. I think the only people that worry about, though, are the people that are trying to sell our records. And we need vocals because it's gonna sell more records, so they can make some money. Otherwise, it's not interesting to them. It's nonprofitable. Fucking pigs!
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continuation.....
"Pink Cellphone" is a pretty strange tune.
All Chino, everything about it.
Talk about the track "The Earth."
It's a song we wrote towards, I'd say, mid-way through the process. I had that riff that I really liked and just molded around it until I had something I liked. It's more about the energy on that song, having a song that just keeps moving all the way through.
Were there any other guitars that you brought in for certain tracks?
No, I use the same setup live and in the studio. I'm pretty simplistic. I've got a gang of equipment. It's by no means all basic and simplistic, but I try to keep everything consistent. It's performance and the energy of actually performance versus, "Oh, this equipment has got this certain sound."
So you never look too long about a perfect setting or anything like that?
Yeah, I never waste time on that. I'm not saying that I don't mess with my gear. If I come across a sound that I like, it will trigger some parts to come out and I'll maybe jump-start a song from that. But lots of times, for me, it's really more about an attitude and trying to create a certain mood or vibe. That's usually a volume. You can get a lot of mood control with just volume.
Are you actually changing the volume on the guitar for each track?
Sometimes, yeah.
What songs might have you have done that on?
"Cherry Waves," definitely. "Hole In The Earth," like the actual melody line. I start off really quiet on it, but as it gets built up to the chorus, I'm playing into it harder. I put more attack on it. Just little things. It's not meant to be really drastic.
You record with Pro Tools?
Yeah. We've actually recorded every record since Around The Fur on Pro Tools.
Do you think that Pro Tools sounds like tape does and works for you on that level?
I don't know. I come from a garage band mentality. At the end of the day, it's the song that counts. It's not the sound quality. It's nice to have something that's running through some really nice equipment. I personally really care about the performance of the song far more than I do the sound quality. I actually really can appreciate songs that are recorded on fucked up sounds and settings.
Did you tend to listen to bands with that kind of sound?
I'm most often quoted as being the metal guy, but I really love stuff like Primus, Dinosaur Jr., Sonic Youth, old Soundgarden, Nirvana. These are just the ones popping off the tip of my tongue. Mr. Bungle – I love Mr. Bungle! Faith No More. If I kept going, I could really think of a lot more. But there are so many bands out there that mix so much stuff up, and that's really what it is that we're trying to do. Just keep it interesting musically interesting by contrasting the different styles and sounds, without being so blatantly obnoxious about it.
A lot of bands, in a real unoriginal sense, sport their influences in a blatant and the music really comes out lifeless.
I totally know what you mean. I think, like I said, musically the five of us are those people where we hear stuff and we're like, "Man, it's so obvious." We don't consider ourselves in a sense where we're like, "Oh, we're special because we tweak it all around." We actually just try to tweak it around, not for a Deftones sound, but so it sounds good to us without sounding like someone else. It's so easy to have somebody else's sound. All you've got to do is recreate the way they sound.
For us, we didn't even try to recreate our own sound let alone someone else's sound. It is a benefit to us that we're that way, but when we're all writing music, it can be a serious fucking bummer for us and people around us. Once we hit a wall, where somebody's like, "Well, I don't like that because of whatever reason," all progress comes to a stop. We'll just go back to hanging out. We're a bunch of friends before we're a band. That's a hard thing for a lot of people to understand. We've spent three years on this record, not because we're slow musically, but we're just living our lives and just happen to be making a record during that process. It's just been wild times. I mean, four of the five of us have all gone through relationship issues with divorces all in the last four years. So It's been a hectic time for us personally, let alone the music. The music has been more of an escape for us thankfully.
"I'm not trying to win over the minds of the people that are just picky that they can't be pleased."
It sounds like there were some pains in giving birth to this album.
Yeah, there's been pain for the last three (releases).
Do you think people look to the Deftones for new styles and wrinkles? Can you step back and answer a question like that?
It's very flattering to be considered in that sense, but I think really ultimately I feel the fact that we've become unique in any way is sheer chance. Ultimately our only intent is not to repeat ourselves and that pushes us into other avenues musically. Like I said earlier, we could have, after Adrenaline, when everybody was really into us, just made another Adrenaline record. That would have just been really lame. So we went to Around The Fur and it was a little more aggressive and I guess energetic, if you will. I'm not sure if that's the way other people see it or not. But that was a really fast project for us. We did it all really fast. Everybody was really pumped. White Pony was five years after we had already done our first record. That's when we started to slow down just as people and as a band. It was like, "Let's just kick back. What's the rush? We're a band. We make music. We do this for a living. Let's not rush it. Let's enjoy it and let it be what it's gonna be."
That kind of process has been the process where we've really been since 2000. We've been consciously living our lives and trying to become better people in the process and making many mistakes throughout the way, of course. We're very emotional people. We feel a lot of things. When it comes to jamming time, it really is more of a social time for us to hang out than it is to be like, "Oh, check out this new lick I got." If somebody's got an idea or whatever, we'll definitely drop it on each other, but I think it's more fun for us to hang out than it is to just try to bash out some songs because people want a new record and they need some new music.
There really sounds like there is a purpose behind what you guys do and it feels genuine. Does that come from that sense of camaraderie you've described?
At the end of the day for us, it is us; it's just us being us musically. There's a lot of emotion in this band. We're really hard on each other. We talk a lot of shit about each other. We're very verbally abusive to each other at time. Or it's more in the sense when somebody's really starting to get off track and they get in their own little world, the rest of us are quick to start clowning and bring that person back to reality. Like, "Look, you're losing track, buddy. Come on back! Come on, big buddy! Come on back." I'm starting to taper off it now, but for the past month and a half with interviews I've been doing, I've really been harsh on Chino and Abe. I really have. But it's only because I feel like I've talked to them so many times about these issues that I got to like I get brushed off. So I'm like, "All right. Well, you guys don't want to hear me, maybe you'll hear it from the rest of the people you don't even know. Maybe that'll make you hear me." So we're always just trying to get each other's attention. More times than none we're gonna do something that's gonna be offensive or say something offensive to each other because that's the only way you get someone's attention that you've known for 20 years. We're a five-man marriage is what it comes down to. We've all outlived our own personal marriages. It's something to be said for just that alone. That very little bit of essence, that is the thing that keeps us together. No matter what issues we deal with, we're gonna deal with them. Sometimes we can solve the problems and issues right away, and other times they just burn us for ages.
Is it true that Chino went through some hard times with the vocals?
Oh, yeah, certainly. He's had a lot of weight on his shoulders for the last few years. I feel for the brother, but through it all I would also like to see him approach things with a more positive attitude, a more confident stance, and a more cooperative stance. He can be very stubborn and selfish, and it really affects the rest of us. That's when I started calling him a dick. I'm like, "Look, you don't have to be a dick. We're all family here. It doesn't have to go to that fucking level." Like I said, none of us are afraid to say anything to each other. A lot of people really do get thrown back from it when they hear it. Like I said, we say some really wild shit to each other and we'll say it in front of people, too. People will be looking at us like, "Oh, my God! Do you hear that?" We're just like, "Whatever." We don't always know the right place and time for what we say. That's what we're working on.
That's great that you can be so honest about everything.
When it comes to just even the music itself, I don't really feel a great need to spend a lot of time on songs. My explanation to the guys is like, "Look, let's just write songs. If you want to spend a lot of time, I mean, that's cool. I understand. That's not personally how I enjoy doing it. I will spend some times with you guys on it, but I like to wrap stuff up right away." When it comes down to it, after it's all said and done, opinion is just that. It's just an opinion. There are gonna be people that are always gonna like stuff and there are gonna be people that always don't like stuff. You cannot please everyone. My intent is not to please everyone. I'm not trying to break records for someone, the most records or anything like that. I want to play music that I enjoy and for those who enjoy it. I'm not trying to win over the minds of the people that are just picky that they can't be pleased. I can't concern myself. That's crazy almost to worry about that. I've told people, "I've long surpassed the point in time in music where I have wanted to achieve."
Since then, it's been worlds of experience and different things. It's been like all of it is another learning experience for me. The most gratifying thing that comes from all of it that we've done ultimately is that there's actually people that really like our music and it really touches them and makes their lives better. Versus them like, "Oh, hey, I bought your record. It's pretty cool. I like it. Cool songs." The songs actually touch these people. Some people are like, "Man, your record, it saved my life through this period of time. If I didn't even have it, I don't even know what I would have done." When you hear that stuff, all I can say is, "Thanks." I know what it's like to have music that feels good and I know that feeling, what they're trying to express. The reply from me is really hard. I'm not sure I understand a proper way to reply to it other than saying, "Thank you." I definitely have nothing but gratitude for all those who have been there and supported us because it has supported them.
Is Saturday Night Wrist the album that you hoped you would create after three years away from the studio?
I listen to it and really love the songs in the finality, the way they are, because every one of our records has been nothing more than capturing a period of time where we are at. It isn't a plan to do what we're gonna do. It's not to experience a thing all the way completed and stuff like that. I'm happy with what I've done. Is it everything I want to do? No, it's not everything I want to do. But I am very happy with what has been done and I do always look forward to making more stuff and twisting it up.
I talk about all the time like, "I want to make a Deftones death metal record. I want to make a Deftones fucking straight-up hip-hop, R&B, in-the-club record. I want to make a jazz record; I want to make a fucking blues record. I want to make a total experimental record." But these are all things individually where we all come from these individual tastes and ideas. These little things pop in here and there, but I would like to do a record of all cover songs, new songs, old songs. The desires of what I want to do musically is I'm still just barely doing it. It's just little bit by bit. I figure there's no rush. I've got all my life. I don't need to put out the definitive record right now that defines everything about me because I don't know everything about me. I just know where I'm at right now and where I've been and trying to make where I'm going a good place.
You're currently on the road right now?
Yeah, we're out till like almost Christmas, not quite Christmas day or anything, but really close. I think like four or five days before Christmas. Then we'll probably get about 5 weeks off and then we're gonna go back to some more international dates. We're gonna go do Australia, through the Pacific Rim including Japan. I think Thailand. And also before that, actually we're gonna do Mexico, South America, and then to the Pacific and Australia and those countries. After that, we're gonna go back over to Europe for probably about another eight, nine weeks, do another headlining tour out there, and then we'll be back over here in the States. Actually we're probably gonna come back and do Canada first, I think, because we've been wanting to do a full-blown Canada tour for almost a year. We're gonna go do a full Canadian run for all our fans up there. Our last record was like #1 or #2 up there and we hardly did anything up there. Canadians have a lot of love for Deftones. There's a lot of love for us around the world, but I'm just saying that we really need to get there. There's a lot of places we really need to go.
The hardest part, and I try to explain to these people, is like the desire for us to come is large. The hardest part is the money. Some people aren't willing to pay what it takes to get us there and cover our cost. That's okay, I don't blame anyone. Money is money. Business is business. If we can't afford it, what we need, that's fine. But we've still got to cover our expenses and stuff like that. That's the largest thing that keeps us from going places. But other than that, the desire to go everywhere and play for people that enjoy our music is all the way there.
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continuation....
So touring is still an expensive undertaking for a band at your level?
Yeah. It can be difficult. It's not always difficult. Just certain places people don't have money to throw around. There's not a lot you can do about it. If we had some sort of corporate sponsors that are willing to pay for us to go there, we're always down for that, too. That ultimately meets everybody's needs. Some company gets to promote their product, gets us in there promoting us to our fans who have never seen us, who couldn't afford to have us come in there, and allows us to come play for people like that. Other places we go and we make great money doing it and it's a big-time event. It really is a trip. Like I said, coming into this whole thing, I never imagined half of the stuff that we've gone through and experienced.
I really still feel like we're that garage band. I'm 36 years old and the only thing that's really changed for me is myself, personally, is just maturing. I realized that I am immature and the only way I can ever be a mature person is to actually make better choices and be more mature. I don't wish to be mature at the sake of not having any fun. But I like to have fun and be responsible while I'm doing it now versus being just, "Oh, let's do whatever!" I actually do care what people think. My intent is not to offend anyone. I feel like all the people I have ever offended in my life, I've got nothing but an apology to them and "sorry." I wish it wasn't that way, but I'm thankful for all the things that have happened in my life. All the good and bad events in my life have ultimately brought me to where I am, and where I'm at is a great place. So I can't look back on regrets, but I can make always my future a better way than my past. That's the way I'm living and it does turn over into the music. I say that I'm trying to make music that's fun and interesting, but without sacrificing being artistic. I want it to be something original or creative, if you will. So it's not so, "Oh yeah, it's just the same old formula." It's so easy to make music in a certain formula because that's the way it's gonna get heard.
But simultaneously, along that same line, it's also better to throw everyone off the entire time. I would love to make a record of songs, where riffs in the songs – or parts if you will, not even just riffs – never repeat. Like you might hear a hooky part you think the hook is the song, but once that part is gone, it's gone. You won't hear it again unless you play the song over and come back to that part. Time goes forward, this song goes forward. You want to come back in time, you've got to start the song over.
Are there other interesting bands out there and is 2006 a healthy time for music?
I absolutely think there's not only a lot, there's an abundance of it. It's just not on the radio sadly. The commercial music is designed for people who don't have a lot of time to search out and find the most rarest attraction. It's meant for people who are on a schedule. It just fits in their schedule, if you will. I don't look upon modern music in any negative way, actually. Even a lot of bands that people would even consider to be just whatever, I give them respect, too. They are hopefully doing what it is that I think everyone's doing, and that is making music they like. If they're doing it for any other reasons outside of what they like, the likeliness of continuing with doing it will probably decrease as time goes by. I think you've got to have that core of enjoyment there because if you don't enjoy it, it's just not gonna be something you want to do.
At first, I was looking at the band in a way I shouldn't, which is looking at it like any other band out there.
I'm the same way. I know exactly what you're talking about. Honestly, if I was home, if you spent one year of your life with me, you'd probably hear more talk radio than you imagine and you would be playing golf with me everyday. That's my days. Throw in some beautiful women here and there and some weed. If anything, if I've got any message to the world, it's free the fucking already. Jesus Christ. Stop all these lame excuses for doing it! It's like, "It's just fucking weed." It's sad that a lot of people have to go medical route just to smoke week legally. Just abandon and abolish all these dumb-ass rules attached to it.
So marijuana is okay in your world?
I'm saying in the world Earth, the planet we all live on, just about everywhere you go people smoke weed. And not just like a couple I meet – everyone everywhere smokes fucking weed. Even the mere mention, just the word marijuana, if you just say it in a room full of people you thought wouldn't like it, look around and see how many people are smiling just from the mere mention of the word! It just befuddles me that it can be considered in any part, especially in the United States of America, we, the freest people in the world, allegedly. We should be smoking the weed because we are the freest people in the world! How can we, the freest people in the land of the planet Earth, have so many childish restrictions on such a substance that causes no harm to anyone? Those who are harmed by it were harmed somebody who was harmful to begin with. It wasn't the weed.
So in your mind it should be legalized?
It should not only be legalized, it should be a dead topic. All this negativity and stereotypes that are attached to it should just fall to the wayside because it's absolutely ignorant. People who enjoy weed should not be made to feel like lower-class citizens or ignorant or criminals because they enjoy some marijuana. I enjoy it. I tell the world, "I enjoy it and I will smoke it till the day I die."
Is smoking marijuana part of the creative process for you?
I do, but I don't smoke nearly the amount that people think I do. I have a little taste here, a little taste there. Previous years, when I was first getting into it, I was all about it, had the fat sack. I was puffing joints, the biggest joints all the time. Man, I was the shit. If I could rewind the clock back, let me tell you, I would have saved a lot of money. It shouldn't have to be about money! That's the sad part about it. It's a fucking plant. All you've got to do is grow it. Are you kidding? You can grow tomatoes, cucumbers and every other vegetable or fruit you like, but if you grow that marijuana plant you're a criminal. What the fuck? The American government has absolutely gone insane. They have lost their minds on a level that the normal human beings of the world just cannot understand. Not even themselves understand. But the only reason they're there, the only reason those rules exist, is the very same reason all these other rules exist: just to dig into our pockets, get a little of that money. Jesus, you guys created the money! Why you got to steal it from us? Just make some fucking more!
Were the other Deftones' records created while you were smoking?
Around The Fur and forward. Adrenaline, I did not smoke weed. But the tail-end of the Adrenaline period is when I started smoking weed and I've been high ever since. And quite responsibly, I might add. I believe that any day anyone wants to Pepsi challenge this stoner, I will gladly mentally run circles around them unless they are truly more intelligent and enlightened than I am. I believe I will enlighten them. I believe I can grant them some advice that might be useful to them. I'm sure I am most certain that I am more courteous and cooperative than most who are totally sober. I believe that there's more people out there like me. Like I said, I consider myself to be quite immature and I'm just trying to make a better way for myself and be a little more mentally understanding of everything and everyone around me.
"I'm saying in the world Earth, just about everywhere you go people smoke weed."
Do your bandmates adopt your philosophy?
Not certain. I can't speak for them. I can only speak for myself. It would certainly give them a nice chuckle. How about that? And that's fine with me. Like I said, try it one day. I tell everyone, "Why don't you just try it and find out?" Just mention the mere word marijuana around a crowd of people and see what happens. I guarantee you 50% will be smiling.
If someone said that your playing was off because of smoking marijuana, would you take that to heart?
Again, I say at the end of the day, "Every one of us is good for nothing. All we've got is opinions. And you know what? Try focusing those opinions on yourself. That's all I'm trying to do." When everyone become a little more self-aware and self-assuring and a little more understanding of themselves, only then can they understand someone else. Until they start to understand themselves and judge themselves before judging me or anyone else, it's just an opinion and I really don't got time for opinions. That's all they are. We've all got them and no one really cares about them. The only time anyone's opinion matter is somebody actually asks you for it. If somebody really wants your opinion, that's because they need a little help or to maybe help them understand what you're thinking. But otherwise, your opinion means nothing. My opinion means nothing. No one's opinion matters.
That's why every day we watch the news. We all go home and we all sit there and yell at the fucking TV like our opinion matters. The TV ain't fucking listening. They don't give a fuck. You can go into the fucking Congress and scream and shout all you want, but your opinion don't mean shit in there either. You can vote if you want. All your votes don't mean shit either because you don't count. It's the final electoral vote that makes the difference. Our system is completely broke, but somehow it works. It works – in a dictatorship sort of way it works. People need to wake up to reality. The reality is shit can be as good as we want it to be if we decide to. And we have to decide as a group, otherwise we're all just chasing our tails, spouting off all our own opinions. I could come with a billion opinions of my own about every topic you want, but it's just that: my opinion. And really, who cares? I tell people all the time, "How about before you spout off an opinion, why don't you consider a solution? If you've got a solution, talk about that then. And if nobody likes your solution, don't be mad. Come up with another one. Maybe that one wasn't good enough, wasn't all-encompassing enough."
Are you going to run for local politics?
No. I'm not a good enough liar to be a politician. I can lie, I guess, if I wanted to. But I personally would be destroyed within and that's not the way I want to live. Shame on all those who fucking do it already because they've done nothing but made the quality of life for most of us fucking shit.
We still have it better than anybody else, though.
I don't know. I'm not sure I buy into the old school American philosophy. It might have been like 50 years ago, but I honestly believe that people in Europe are really living well. People in Australia, living really well. I think people outside of the United States are living well. I mean, you go to places where you think they're not living well, and I promise you, they're probably living better than you can think. And if you're talking war-torn territory or a place where it's just pure fucking dictatorship living, I can't speak for that. I've never been to that and I don't have no desire to. I don't need to know what that is. I understand the root cause of it and the root cause of it is people don't have self-respect. Any self-respecting citizen of the world would never lash out at another human being. That mentality is a human mentality and it exists around the world. All these problems we have are all directly related to somebody's opinion, somebody being nosy, and somebody having no consideration for others. Any problem. You pick the problem. I don't care what it is. Any topic, you pick it. It's gonna stem from the exact same source. Until people around the world acknowledge that, we will all live with the crap we live with.
Would you move to Australia?
I would love to live in Australia. I would love to live in Europe.
Where would you move to in Europe?
I would move to Barcelona, Spain, with a quickness. If somebody said, "Steph, I've got this little villa for you in Barcelona. Would you love to move in?" I'd say, "Absolutely! Here I come!" I would like to go there. Would I like to live there for the remainder of my life? No, but I would enjoy spending a period of my life in Barcelona. I would love to enjoy another period of my life in Italy. I would love to spend a bit of time in Moscow. I think it's fucking really cool in Russia, too. Japan, Tokyo, would be awesome. Sydney, Australia. Perth. These are just places where I've been. I'd love to live in Toronto a little bit. But I'm 36. Even if I did 5 years in these 5 cities, I'm gonna be fucking almost 60 by the time the end of this comes around. I guess I can only do it in 1-year blocks if I want to fucking move there.
Or at least until your pot runs out.
That's what I'm trying to figure out. I don't think anyone needs all this money. Money buys you things you like and makes life easier, but it is absolutely not necessary for you to enjoy and have a happy life. You can make a lot from nothing if your mind is working. You've got to have a brain. If your intent in life is to never think and just go through it and let things happen, sure, go for it. You're going to find out the hard way. You've got to be conscious of your decisions in life and all decisions matter, whether they're small or large. You've got to think that way. Otherwise, you'll end up just dealing with what you get.
But if this record sells twice what the last record sold, that would be a good thing.
You know what? I can't even speak on sales because I don't understand that mentality. "Go buy my record." How does that sound? That sounds corny. I can't even say it with a straight face.
Isn't more better than less?
If you had a choice, if you had somebody offer you richness over poorness, you're a fool to choose poor. We need money. There's no doubt about it that you need it. But money is certainly not what makes the person better. You don't need money to be a great person. You don't need money to have a happy life. But if you want to have the things that are going to make you happy in life, you need money.
If you were just doing club tours, would that be okay with you?
Yeah, absolutely. It's hard to accept for some people, it really is. My passion is, when it comes to the music and performing the music, I like to perform the music for those that enjoy it. If that happens to be a large audience, well, man, hallelujah! Let's have a good time! If that's a small audience, hey, let's blow it up. Let's have a good time, too.
That's great. The philosophy according to Steph.
Yeah, it's very simple. Have a good time. Be the best person you can. Be courteous and respectful of others and have fun.
From photos you are an intimidating presence and I wasn't expecting these answers.
I think having that image is what pushed me there because I feel that sometimes. I know that I could walk into a room where everybody's all conservative and whatever, and everybody's gonna be looking at me like, "What a fucking animal!" But I'm just like, "Whatever. Who cares? I don't care. This is me. This is the DNA I was born with. I'm sorry it fucking freaks you out. I've got what I've got. I can't change this shit. Until they come up with a medical process that allows me to alter my own personal DNA and recreate and redesign myself, I am stuck with this. I'm just gonna have fun with what I've got." It can't be that far into the future, right?
the end ;)
^thanks a lot man! cool interview!
Does the instrumental side of the music intrigue you?
I love it. I've told Chino now for three records, since he started playing guitar, "Why don't we just get rid of the vocals in the group and just do all music? We can go out there and just do sick-ass, fucking instrumentals and just jam!"
(they should do that!)
this is one the most interesting and best threads ive ever seen!
Wow! Stef is like some wise old sage! That was a brilliant read thanks Mono.
stef is going to be the coolest old guy ever. salt and pepper long hair, guitar in hand, blunt in one corner of his mouth, spitting wisdom out the other corner
http://www.theprp.com/reviews/deftones1.shtml
Deftones - Saturday Night Wrist
As with any Deftones album, the recording process behind it remains self-destructive. However, the list of casualties incurred during the recording of "Saturday Night Wrist" is severe - even for Deftones standards. A butting of heads with the albums original producer Bob Ezrin saw them leave the studio; an alleged lack of motivation nearly saw band frontman Chino Moreno kicked out of the band; and you can bet that the trademark Carpenter vs. Moreno feuds were also in full effect.
So what does all this tension and strife amount to when captured on recording equipment? Well for starters, it seems like an odd mixture of two of the bands previous outings. The strain and uneasiness that sees ideas mildly stilted, plus the sharp nature of some tracks, recalls their last self-titled affair. But the liberal usage of dreamy soundscapes and focused experimentation give a nod to the "White Pony" days.
There are coarse jagged riffs and screams on occasion, but they are often buried underneath the abstract melodies and slow, lingering build-up's that anchor nearly each track. There really isn't that much in the way of rage on this album as much as there is a pleasantly numbing melodrama that, while on par for the mutated new wave the Deftones have championed, can at times feel lackluster in delivery.
A slow plodding beast, "Saturday Night Wrist" is packed with songs flush with depth, yet they rarely provide a clear vision of the ideas behind them. In that sense it's somewhat frustrating as it almost feels like the dense instrumentation and drawn-out build-up's are merely a cover-up for writer's block in certain places.
The guest appearance from System Of A Down frontman Serj Tankian on the track "Mein" is nearly transparent, while the skeletal electronics and throwaway lyrics of "Pink Cellphone" (featuring Annie Hardy talking about hot carls and more) falls flat as the albums biggest mistake. But even it isn't enough to derail the majesty this rare band who credibly escaped the nu-metal collapse are once again able to conjure up.
(4 / 5)
wookubus
Quote from: makoe5 on Nov 10, 2006, 10:53 PM
stef is going to be the coolest old guy ever. salt and pepper long hair, guitar in hand, blunt in one corner of his mouth, spitting wisdom out the other corner
Brilliant image, nice one!
Quote from: Drakesmoke1 on Nov 11, 2006, 01:16 AM
Quote from: makoe5 on Nov 10, 2006, 10:53 PM
stef is going to be the coolest old guy ever. salt and pepper long hair, guitar in hand, blunt in one corner of his mouth, spitting wisdom out the other corner
Haha yeah, he's cool, but stop saying they are old, they are still not!:D
Brilliant image, nice one!
http://www.reflector-online.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/11/10/4553e70ed3eac
Pretty good review - apart from the nu-metal mention...guess they can't shake it
im just wondering how many magazines did deftones appeard on?
Quote from: 333tone on Nov 08, 2006, 09:57 PM
Quote from: Deftones-argentina on Nov 08, 2006, 04:30 PM
I loved the part of the mobile studio :) Thanks!
haha, the guys are so lazy that i'm sure they'll be fuckin' around in that moile studio! i really can't understand why bands have to make a record every 1-2 years for the sake of it.
I think it's something about making money.
So, did anyone buy Gyitar One magazine? i think they were supposed to be featured there. i was checking out November's issue, but i didn't find something
They are also going to do an article in Bass Player (magazine) as well....
yadahyadah....DEFTONES FOR LIFE... now heres a bonus for yall busy peeps....check out the photo galleries....i uploaded some deftones chicks....just wanna sharelungs with yall.....add me up at myspace.com/boobop_1
yadahyadah....DEFTONES FOR LIFE... now heres a bonus for yall busy peeps....check out the photo galleries....i uploaded some deftones chicks....just wanna sharelungs with yall.....add me up at myspace.com/boobop_1
^^ somebody should really do somethin about that guy... >:(
Yeah, something like kicking him in the balls...
South america?
yay!!!!
The only review that I have come across here in Oz.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/cd-reviews/saturday-night-wrist/2006/11/16/1163266700635.html
There's a review in the new OOR and an interview in the new Aardschok...might someone have that and want to upload it... 8)
sweet, all the info you need all in one. nice one 8)
so did you all read the revolver mag. itt was more interesting than the metal edge mag. but it talked about pretty much every magazine or intervews topic
Ok, here's a review from a Greek mag(it s translated, so excuse me if i make some mistakes!): Judging from the opening-as powerful as it gets- riff of SNW, you know that you're dealing with a Deftones album, a band that was never kidding about their music, and tried to avoid as hell the "filthy" nu-metal label. This may be the reason why singers like Sepultura's/Soulfly's Max Cavalera and Tool's Maynard James Keenan accepted to make guest appearances on their albums. This also may be the reason why this time SOAD' s Serj Tankian guests. Deftones were the first to gain the respect of many bands, mainly due to their different sound from the majority of the hard-rock bands of the last 15 years. SNW is another diverse Deftones record. It's amazing how from the brutal riffs of 'Hole In The Earth' they preceed to the ambient "break" of "Interlude"(the influence of Team Sleep is obvious) or from Faith No More's "mania" on 'FM' and 'RATS', they mix post-rock with Sabbath's doom on 'Beware'. Apart from Tankian(on the surprisingly alternative 'Mein'), there's a guest appearance from Giant Drag's Annie Hardy on the dub/industrial experiment of 'Pink Cell Phone', a song that many who don't know that Deftones is a band that doesn't have the "stop-begin" structures as a hobby, and always liked the distorted vocals and the heavy guitars as the base of their songs, will not like. Oh, and we shouldn't forget to mention that they are the same band that covered Cocteau Twins, Duran Duran and Depeche Mode,mention as main influences The Smiths and The Cure and toured with Korn, Slayer, etc. How can they not be different? TOP TRACKS: 'HOLE IN THE EARTH','COMBAT', 'RATS'.
7/10
Quote from: Far away on Nov 20, 2006, 01:57 PM
South america?
yay!!!!
WHERE DID U READ THAT EUG?!
In today's Boston Metro
http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/8118/bostonmetrodeftones1201yi3.jpg (http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/8118/bostonmetrodeftones1201yi3.jpg)
Article from the Phoenix
http://www.thephoenix.com/article_ektid28268.aspx (http://www.thephoenix.com/article_ektid28268.aspx)
nice article!!
Chi is a funny guy! "Making sandwiches" LOL
Quote from: JackNY07 on Dec 01, 2006, 05:45 PM
Article from the Phoenix
http://www.thephoenix.com/article_ektid28268.aspx (http://www.thephoenix.com/article_ektid28268.aspx)
righteous read
Family Values CD/DVD review (http://www.topix.net/content/blogcritics/3171600582361416340330908848950645722687)
Deftones – 12.08.06 – Riviera Theatre – Chicago, IL review (http://www.411mania.com/music/concerts/48511/Deftones---12.08.06---Riviera-Theatre---Chicago,-IL.htm)
Tension at heart of Deftones - Chicago Tribune Article (http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-0612110173dec11,1,6349939.story)
Decibel Mag interview
http://www.decibelmagazine.com/features/jan2007/deftones/seemless.aspx
Quote from: 333tone on Dec 14, 2006, 08:17 PM
Decibel Mag interview
http://www.decibelmagazine.com/features/jan2007/deftones/seemless.aspx
That was a great read... Lots of new things that I wasn't aware of. Thank you very much.
Damn, Chino got his first child at the age of 20 ??? That's freakingly young... :o
Quote from: tarkil on Dec 15, 2006, 10:57 AM
Quote from: 333tone on Dec 14, 2006, 08:17 PM
Decibel Mag interview
http://www.decibelmagazine.com/features/jan2007/deftones/seemless.aspx
That was a great read... Lots of new things that I wasn't aware of. Thank you very much.
Damn, Chino got his first child at the age of 20 ??? That's freakingly young... :o
Yeah man, great read.
Back then having a child that young probably wasn't that rare, But one of my mates had a kid when he was 14!! 14!?! crazy man.
^^ That's great. They can go out together soon! :D
Quote from: rxqueen on Dec 19, 2006, 12:32 AM
^^ That's great. They can go out together soon! :D
Yeah i know, crazy :D my mum had me when she was 17 i think.
But aaaanyway, I saw a new poster of Chino in Kerrang! I must buy it before this Wednesday.
Could you scan that too?
Nice interview in the Decibel Devils (20 and a kid...man...that IS early).
has anyone read the new DRUM!. abe is the cover story. talking about what everyone else is talkning about. and some in depth drum talk. i couldnt find the archive on the site. but if you see it in the store read it. its goot
Quote from: Tuck on Nov 24, 2006, 03:07 PM
There's a review in the new OOR and an interview in the new Aardschok...might someone have that and want to upload it... 8)
Since im member of OOR magazin i red the review. Thought they were rather positf about the album. Which kinda surprised me , knowing their reputation.
In one sentence, according to the writer : SNW is good album but doesnt top WP. Correct me if im wrong Tuck.
Dont have a scanner so cant upload it. And since we are ony like 3 or 4 dutchspeaking here i dont think its much worht putting much effort in scanning this thing.
grtz
TOM
deftones saturdaynightwrist is on number 2 on hai magz chart top 20 in indonesia..
Some country knows good music
did anybody read the Revolver Magazine interview with the Deftones? Chino says he got divorced from Celeste during the Connecticut phase of SNW's writing because his on-the-side girlfriend got preagnant, and he told his wife (Celeste) who divorced him because of it...
thats some insane shit.
What It's not clear is wether Celeste knew the existance of the side girlfriend. That would be weird.
Quote from: glasstone1983 on Jan 26, 2007, 04:50 AM
I figured i'd post this since not many people would buy the magazine or take the time to scan the pictures so here it is. Sorry if its not in the correct thread but since there isn't to much news now it should be fine:) Below is a sample of one of the pics in the zip file.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/07ym9m
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m87/glasstone1983/img032.jpg)
Aby baby is using fucking Nike, SELLOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!! SELLOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: White Pwny on Jan 27, 2007, 04:44 PM
http://decibelmagazine.com/features/feb2007/deftones.aspx
I dont know if it's been posted yet or not. But, pretty good read. I WANT THIS ISSUE!!!!!
Quote from: stoneFeD on Dec 28, 2006, 12:09 AM
has anyone read the new DRUM!. abe is the cover story. talking about what everyone else is talkning about. and some in depth drum talk. i couldnt find the archive on the site. but if you see it in the store read it. its goot
This issue still out? If not I
neeeeeeed a scan.
Quote from: ToneDef on Jan 28, 2007, 04:40 PM
Quote from: stoneFeD on Dec 28, 2006, 12:09 AM
has anyone read the new DRUM!. abe is the cover story. talking about what everyone else is talkning about. and some in depth drum talk. i couldnt find the archive on the site. but if you see it in the store read it. its goot
This issue still out? If not I neeeeeeed a scan.
Me too! I gotta see this..
http://www.cravemagazine.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=653
Interview with Chi
Quote from: Wolffer on Jan 30, 2007, 10:54 PM
Check this new, long and awesome interview with Chino and Abe at http://www.stereowarning.com
These guys are so cool... Deftones rule!
not sure if it's been posted yet, but cool article on frank
http://remixmag.com/performance/dj_tips_techniques/remix_frank_delgado/ (http://remixmag.com/performance/dj_tips_techniques/remix_frank_delgado/)
Quote from: lostcancer on Feb 01, 2007, 09:01 PM
not sure if it's been posted yet, but cool article on frank
http://remixmag.com/performance/dj_tips_techniques/remix_frank_delgado/ (http://remixmag.com/performance/dj_tips_techniques/remix_frank_delgado/)
Cool interview 8)
The local free gig listings magazine has Deftones on the front cover of this months copy. The interview is with Abe and you can read it here. If anyone would like me to send them a copy then just ask as there free.
http://www.outlineonline.co.uk/page.asp?pageid=5 (http://www.outlineonline.co.uk/page.asp?pageid=5)
"Chino Mor-I-no"
good "reporters"
New interview of Stef, courtesy of french website www.deftnz.net :
http://pinkmaggit.free.fr/interviews22.html
Lots of interesting things said in there. It also look like they still didn't go that over it with Chino's stuff...
Anyway, good read.
great find tarkil.
– Your guitar tuning has been going lower and lower on every album. And we all know you're a huge Meshuggah fan. As they did, are you thinking about switching to 8-string guitars?
Yes, I am going to 8 strings on the next record.
god I hope he's being sarcastic!
Cool interview.
"One day he'll will lose us if he keeps on doing this to us."
"If there is any volatile situation, it's cause he's a dick to us"
"There is no future for it since Chino will never do anything for it." (for FOD)
Quote from: tarkil on Mar 13, 2007, 02:35 AM
It also look like they still didn't go that over it with Chino's stuff...
seems like it...
lol, Steph not holding back on what he thinks of Chino, but it's probably all tongue in cheek.
Nice interview, thanks.
Quote from: Gaz on Mar 13, 2007, 02:49 PM
lol, Steph not holding back on what he thinks of Chino, but it's probably all tongue in cheek.
maybe.but he should forget that. he is always saying the same thing. Chino had a bad time. So...it´s gone. Maybe isn´t good talk about that issues all the time. But they are friends, so...it seems everything is cool.Nice steph. Sex and golf all the time.
the next album should be interesting. 8 sting guitar, & solos(if he sticks to his recent plans, he could change his mind obviously)
Quote from: Gaz on Mar 13, 2007, 02:49 PM
lol, Steph not holding back on what he thinks of Chino, but it's probably all tongue in cheek.
i agree with you.. btw thanks for all the links. cool read :)
– During the conception of SNW, Maverick was pressuring you quite a lot so that they could get some control over this project. What is your feeling about that?
lol hahah stef is the man
NEW INTERVIEW!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JjwxTTUK3Q
for some reason, i can't watch that interview, it's not loading. is there anything interesting said?
thanks stu! I think the most interesting info is that chino talks more about Entertain me.
and some news...about a new dvd, probably (?)
we are waiting...
that was a pretty good interview. different questions for a change instead of "how did the band get started?" "what was it like working with Bob Ezrin?", etc
it's cool that they talked about Entertain me, but it sounds like they didn't like it much, so i doubt we'll ever see it as an official dvd
Good interview, thanks again
frank and those xanax
Quote from: Hidalgo on Mar 15, 2007, 05:11 AM
the next album should be interesting. 8 sting guitar, & solos(if he sticks to his recent plans, he could change his mind obviously)
Stef doesn't appear to get his way so, I'd take some of what he says light heartedly, like Gaz was pointing at.
Quote from: blondie on Mar 30, 2007, 12:36 PM
snw is a marvelous accomplishment.
a prodigious achievement.
it's putrid.
nice, gracious tone there hehe
here is a new interview done by some german dude before the berlin show
http://www.hypebeast.com/stevenvogel/ (http://www.hypebeast.com/stevenvogel/)
QuoteStephen went up close and the dude was dead. We called the cops and it turned out that this dude had a heart attack whilst driving, pulled up the curb, took a dump, sat down and died.
:D
Quote from: dawg on Apr 04, 2007, 08:21 AM
here is a new interview done by some german dude before the berlin show
http://www.hypebeast.com/stevenvogel/ (http://www.hypebeast.com/stevenvogel/)
QuoteStephen went up close and the dude was dead. We called the cops and it turned out that this dude had a heart attack whilst driving, pulled up the curb, took a dump, sat down and died.
:D
that guy is american you fool. thats a good interview i like how the guys took a shit and died
Quote from: tarkil on Mar 13, 2007, 02:35 AM
New interview of Stef, courtesy of french website www.deftnz.net :
http://pinkmaggit.free.fr/interviews22.html
Lots of interesting things said in there. It also look like they still didn't go that over it with Chino's stuff...
Anyway, good read.
That's one heavy interview.
I don't think Stef worries about what he says about Chino or anything else, Because it's highly unlikely that Chino will ever read that shit.
really now
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/interviews/stephen_carpenter_deftones_guitarist_grooves_on_saturday_night.html
interview with stephen taken from ULTIMATE GUITAR
if it was posted before tell me, I'll' delete the post.
Quote from: stephen carpenter
How did the collaboration with Serj Tankian from System Of A Down come about?
It came about because Chino had no ideas for the songs. We have the same management as Serj, and they suggested that maybe the two of them could work on it and break the ice to see if something would come out. They had given Serj the song, and he actually did vocals on the entire song, and he wrote them and recorded them all in one day, which was a total slap in Chino's face. He hadn't done anything for it in over a year! The band has problems, and the only way we'll ever deal with the problems is if the problems are dealt with as they are. This was the only way we were ever going to get songs written faster, which is really what it came down to. We can take forever on it. The record was becoming our own version of The Chinese Democracy. I personally do not want to take a lifetime to create a song. I can start on a song in the morning, and by the end of the night, it will be finished. That's how I work.
Did the band have a lot of songs written which didn't get used on the album?
All of the ones that didn't get used were songs that I wrote, or songs that Chi wrote. I'll tell you what. All problems aside, and everything that we've dealt with, the greatest part of going through this process is that it has brought us all closer together. We have so many ideas and such a great view of the future. The truth is that the future is looking good for us, and it brought us together, in spite of how crappy and trying the moments have been. Had we not gone through that, we'd be different. But we've gone through it, and we're always going to go through it. The reality is that maybe the next record will be a smash or maybe it's an absolute flop. Whatever the case, it's strictly going to be determined by sales and people's opinions. But at the end of the day, we're still a group of friends that enjoy making music together, and we'll still make it. You know, I've really grown a serious distaste for the entire music industry because it's so based on sales, and that disgusts me. Music has lost its true beauty. And those who actually follow their beliefs and make stuff that they truly love, regardless of who buys it, those are the people I love. But this never-ending sales business, I can't understand that mentality
Thank you Yoda, didn't know about this one.
no problemo amigo. I like the way S. sums up Chino.
damn, that's one of the best interviews with Stephen in a long time
looks like he'll be breakin out that 8-string, & leads on the next album
i kinda wish he'd get together with a metal type drummer & record some tracks just for fun, so he could unleash the metal style he can't do in deftones
i wish sol invicto would post another track already, i'm itchin to hear what else Steph's done with them
Quote from: yoda on mars on Aug 25, 2007, 10:18 AM
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/interviews/interviews/stephen_carpenter_deftones_guitarist_grooves_on_saturday_night.html
interview with stephen taken from ULTIMATE GUITAR
if it was posted before tell me, I'll' delete the post.
Quote from: stephen carpenter
How did the collaboration with Serj Tankian from System Of A Down come about?
It came about because Chino had no ideas for the songs. We have the same management as Serj, and they suggested that maybe the two of them could work on it and break the ice to see if something would come out. They had given Serj the song, and he actually did vocals on the entire song, and he wrote them and recorded them all in one day, which was a total slap in Chino's face. He hadn't done anything for it in over a year! The band has problems, and the only way we'll ever deal with the problems is if the problems are dealt with as they are. This was the only way we were ever going to get songs written faster, which is really what it came down to. We can take forever on it. The record was becoming our own version of The Chinese Democracy. I personally do not want to take a lifetime to create a song. I can start on a song in the morning, and by the end of the night, it will be finished. That's how I work.
Did the band have a lot of songs written which didn't get used on the album?
All of the ones that didn't get used were songs that I wrote, or songs that Chi wrote. I'll tell you what. All problems aside, and everything that we've dealt with, the greatest part of going through this process is that it has brought us all closer together. We have so many ideas and such a great view of the future. The truth is that the future is looking good for us, and it brought us together, in spite of how crappy and trying the moments have been. Had we not gone through that, we'd be different. But we've gone through it, and we're always going to go through it. The reality is that maybe the next record will be a smash or maybe it's an absolute flop. Whatever the case, it's strictly going to be determined by sales and people's opinions. But at the end of the day, we're still a group of friends that enjoy making music together, and we'll still make it. You know, I've really grown a serious distaste for the entire music industry because it's so based on sales, and that disgusts me. Music has lost its true beauty. And those who actually follow their beliefs and make stuff that they truly love, regardless of who buys it, those are the people I love. But this never-ending sales business, I can't understand that mentality
Great read, thanks man. I find myself constantly agreeing with what that guy says in interviews. As a weed smoker I understand the laid back way of thinking though, however I don't feel I'll ever be as tolerant as Stef when it comes to certain things.
it's funny, he looks like such a polarizing figure, & unapproachable. but he's actually really laid back & friendly
Great interview, thanks.
"I've got some 8-strings being made, so I want to enjoy that sound."
"Now I have a white ESP Tele-style guitar, and I intend to use that and the 8-string a lot when I write new stuff. I don't have 6-strings anymore."
So, he will get 8-string guitars... Nice.
I think I would like this album (SNW) a lot more if I never heard the Bob Ezrin 16 track demo sessions. As far as Deftones material goes, those demos were really trippy and spacey, really blew my mind, especially as when I blew out cannabis smoke in my toxic fume filled garage.
ok cool. what sort of cannabis did u smoke at the time?
ok good for u i guess. i dont hate it but doesnt feel like a deftones song, they better get the def feel back on eros
reaaallly hate chino's high pitched voice in it
I REALLY WISH THESE SNAKES (here it comes, god fucking damn it) WERE YOUR ARMS
hate it hate it hate it
song would've been great without it
ohhhh naw dude, that song is perfect the way he sung it, I like hearing that part
Quote from: Penicks on May 01, 2009, 02:55 PM
I REALLY WISH THESE SNAKES (here it comes, god fucking damn it) WERE YOUR ARMS
hehe could be the top 3 most funny thing posted here on sl ;D and i really dont know why
Hey, did a quick search to see if anyone had posted this interview.....with keyword 'scuzz' and got nothing...
sorry if it has been posted a million times.. :(
so this is for people that haven't seen it yet... (aka possibly no one) heh
i only like it because they they talk about 'entertain me' pretty definitively in the approx the last 4 mins....
http://www.scuzz.com/Videos/VideoDetails.aspx?type=4&cid=766&st=4
I like penis
IMO Xerces was the pinnacle of that entire CD. Especially the outtro.
Quote from: Vesanic on May 01, 2009, 10:36 AM...
Its a paramount moment on the record; melodically sweet and heavy
Quote from: anothermarine on May 26, 2009, 04:06 AM
IMO Xerces was the pinnacle of that entire CD. Especially the outtro.
it would've been even more great if the outro was like the one in the demo, love that guitar
Ive been searching for the shaun lopez interview where he mentioned some interesting details about SNW. For example, how he lied about Rapture being intense and huge on the record (its still amazing song but not the way he described it), the pre-leak of beware sounded like ass, cherry waves was his favorite during that moment, and briefly talked about his role on the record. Anyone have a copy or a link?
There's the interview with the detailed review of each track by Chino but thats dead as well.
I didn't find a more dedicated SNW thread so I'm posting this in here.
I think my only problem with Mein is Serj and the switch in sound when he comes in. He was a terrible collaboration idea in my opinion and wrecks the song for me. I would quite like the song as a whole I think if he wasn't in it and it was around 2 and a half minutes.
I'm starting to think Rivière is my favourite Deftones song.
Quote from: bewareofrats on Oct 16, 2012, 11:48 PM
I didn't find a more dedicated SNW thread so I'm posting this in here.
I think my only problem with Mein is Serj and the switch in sound when he comes in. He was a terrible collaboration idea in my opinion and wrecks the song for me. I would quite like the song as a whole I think if he wasn't in it and it was around 2 and a half minutes.
I'm starting to think Rivière is my favourite Deftones song.
it wasnt serj.. it was slowpez all along...
I don't think Serj's part sounds bad. If Chino sang his part, I think it would sound weird. Not Chino's voice sounding weird exactly, but since it's like an abrupt switch, it only makes since to have a different person sing that part. It would sound out of place if the same singer sang that part, and I think Serj fits perfectly there... but that's just MY OPINION. haha
edit: it's not a fact, it's just my opinion, IMO
Quote from: deftoolsys07 on Oct 17, 2012, 01:02 AM
I don't think Serj's part sounds bad. If Chino sang his part, I think it would sound weird. Not Chino's voice sounding weird exactly, but since it's like an abrupt switch, it only makes since to have a different person sing that part. It would sound out of place if the same singer sang that part, and I think Serj fits perfectly there... but that's just MY OPINION. haha
edit: it's not a fact, it's just my opinion, IMO
Serj's part doesn't sound "bad". If you like Serj it sounds cool. I don't but it does sound like Serj. But 'Mein' is probably my least fav. Deftones song and that's because of Serj's part. When I think about what I don't like about it I can't think of anything except for Serj's part. And that's not 'cause I don't dig Serj's voice. I just don't think he sounds good with Chino in a Deftones song. At least not that song. Serj's voice fits System of a Down's music perfectly. Deftones? Not so much. Thing is, if Chino just sang some other part altogether on that part of the song I'd probably like the song a lot more.
I never understood the bashing of this album. There are such gems on it. Probably people dislike if for non-musical reasons.
And I hope the group to stop ignoring the album on the live gigs.
I just want to say, Chino's screaming sounds fine and dandy on this album. It gets too much criticism.
I've been listening to SNW for the last couple of days and just realized how much I love that damn album. It has climbed all the way up to #2 on my favorite Deftones albums.
I'm impressed that practically Chino didn't care for this album and the band nearly broke up and end up being an awesome album.
Probably their best album to date though.
Quote from: cesar421 on Oct 17, 2012, 07:28 PM
I'm impressed that practically Chino didn't care for this album and the band nearly broke up and end up being an awesome album.
Probably their best album to date though.
Chino cared for it he said he just didn't like how long it took and mostly blamed the record company who wanted a commercial hit,still a very good effort some real killer songs but for me there was no consistency to it.
Xerces is brilliant...except for Chino's "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODBYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" part over and fucking over again.
I kind of like that bit but i can see why some don't i am the same with hexagram with the "worship!,pray!" bit just kills it